--- Log opened Mon Apr 16 00:00:46 2018
00:05 < xe0n> need coffeee
00:09  * bomb coffees xe0n 
00:13 < MikeSeth> what this
00:13 < MikeSeth> I dont remember which one of you suggested I buy a mikrotik box
00:13 < MikeSeth> but THANK YOU
00:13 < MikeSeth> best home router ever
00:16 < abakedapplepie> meh
00:18 <@JollyRgrs> pfsense > mikrotik
00:18 <@JollyRgrs> but still a good choice
00:22 < xe0n> loll
00:27 < benjgvps> Mikrotik <3
00:28 < xe0n> tiktac
00:33 < bomb> lol mikrotik
00:33 < catbeard> CCR is ok
00:33 < catbeard> not pfsense
00:34 < catbeard> but
00:34 < catbeard> also ftp vuln came out for mikrotik the other day
00:34 < catbeard> https://packetstormsecurity.com/files/147183/mikrotik6414-dos.txt
00:37 < benjgvps> That's a fun one, but won't effect anyone who isn't being silly and exposing management to the internet / user LANs. But you just know someone is using a router as a public FTP server somewhere lol
01:03 < Sousapro> I prefer UBNT but mikrotik is pretty good as long as you don't enable too many advanced features
01:03 < Sousapro> definitely beats the hell out of belkin lmao
01:14 <@cryptic1> pfft you guys have no clue
01:14 <@cryptic1> Should be using d-link
01:14 <@cryptic1> best routers ever
01:14 < DrGibby|> d-link 4 lyfe
01:15 < sideup66> so i enjoy this podcast in spotify
01:16 < sideup66> but the chick narrarting
01:16 < sideup66> dear god stop screaming your feminism nonsense...
01:18 < Sousapro> sideup66: that's part of the experience tho
01:18 < sideup66> no if that is her personal stance, great
01:18 < sideup66> but i dont need that shoved down my throat listening to greek mythology
01:18 < sideup66> now im probably wrong somehow because i have a penis
01:18 < sideup66> but cmon
01:25 < xe0n> loll
01:36 < Sousapro> what is up with the gigabit internet packages?
01:36 < Sousapro> 1000/35?
01:36 <+CheckYourSix> Sousapro: Comcast...
01:36 < Sousapro> you can't even use all of the download speed as TCP
01:37 <+NinjaStyle> Wat
01:38 <+CheckYourSix> I don't think 1 gig down generates 35 mbps in ACK... unless my math is wrong
01:38 < estranger> crazy async connections should be a crime :o
01:43 <+CheckYourSix> estranger: +++
01:44 <+CheckYourSix> So tired...
02:07 < Ayeitzabee> Alrighty
02:08 < DrGibby|> evening
02:13 <+CheckYourSix> If I want to blow away the whole AD domain/DNS setup I have now (which isn't much of anything), is it easy to have my desktop/laptop/other stuff join the new domain when I create it?
02:18 < czarbomba> if you disjoin them cleanly from the domains they are a part of now
02:19 < czarbomba> this is mostly a concern for winclients
02:19 < czarbomba> i don't know what "other stuff" might have particulars you need to pay attention to. but take the windows machines off the old domain first, then ride or die
02:21 < Ayeitzabee> I would reimage the PC
02:21 < Ayeitzabee> Starting fresh on all sides
02:32 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: you just need local admin password of the clients
02:32 <@JollyRgrs> you need local admin rights on the PC to leave/join a domain and you'll separately need proper rights on the new domain to join a computer to it
02:33 <+CheckYourSix> That's easy then
02:33 <+CheckYourSix> Ayeitzabee: Homelab stuff. Would prefer not to reimage, but I will if I have to
02:36 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: you don't always have that luxury
02:36 <@JollyRgrs> you are company A
02:36 <@JollyRgrs> you just bought company b
02:37 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah, I know
02:37 <@JollyRgrs> you must migrate b.com domain joined PCs into A.com domain
02:37 <@JollyRgrs> so do it the right way in practice :)
02:37 <+CheckYourSix> So, reimage?
02:38 <@JollyRgrs> no
02:38 <@JollyRgrs> i mean sure everyone says "reimage"... but the business side of the company will say "no, we can't interrupt them"
02:39 <@JollyRgrs> right now we're trying to join a new acquisition to our domain and were first told to do it as a "no touch" (as in they won't even know it happened)
02:39 <@JollyRgrs> that was teh starting point we had to work from to get them to concede to what we at least needed to get stuff done
02:39 <@JollyRgrs> what's that tv show about silicon valley?
02:41 <+CheckYourSix> Silicon Valley?
02:41 <+CheckYourSix> Or Halt and Catch Fire?
02:41 <@JollyRgrs> um.... yes?
02:41 <@JollyRgrs> i think the first is what i want to start with?
02:41 <@JollyRgrs> which is better?
02:42 <+CheckYourSix> Dunno, haven't watched Silicon Valley yet and only saw a few episodes of Halt and Catch Fire, so....
02:42 <@JollyRgrs> too complicated
02:42 <@JollyRgrs> sil. valley is not on netflix anymore
02:42 <@JollyRgrs> first torrent search is too hard to find good season completes
02:43 <+CheckYourSix> Usenet > all
02:43 <+CheckYourSix> I have it on plex
02:43 < DrGibby|> Silicon Valley over HACF
02:43 <@JollyRgrs> thanks DrGibby|
02:43 < DrGibby|> no problem
02:44 <@JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: now if you'd wanna make that available for me to DL, then that's great... otherwise IDGAF
02:44 <@JollyRgrs> :P
02:44 <+NinjaStyle> what usenet service or whatever do you use CheckYourSix
02:44 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: NewsDemon. $8/mo works great
02:44 < suttin> JollyRgrs: if we reimage, you get a loaner or thin client for a day where I work. Makes it a bit less painful
02:45 < m4221> Who here has ridden Amtrak on a cross country train?
02:45 < suttin> m4221: no one, that shit is awful
02:45 <@JollyRgrs> suttin: diff places have diff policies
02:46 <@JollyRgrs> also, if it is a company you are integrating, they may have their own software and such... have you fully integrated that into your imaging process yet?
02:46 < suttin> Oh yeah that's a whole nother beast
02:46 <@JollyRgrs> m4221: my grandparents rode it a few times
02:46 <@JollyRgrs> you know why a few times?
02:46 < m4221> Well, the S*uttin Express is not much better. :P
02:46 <@JollyRgrs> they rode it once... had a bad experrence.... got free tix
02:46 <@JollyRgrs> rode again
02:46 <@JollyRgrs> had a bad experrence... rode again
02:47 <@JollyRgrs> got free tix
02:47 < m4221> JollyRgrs: Empire Builder?
02:47 <@JollyRgrs> said "to hell with that, no more"
02:47 <@JollyRgrs> m4221: empire builder? this is foreign to me?
02:47 < m4221> JollyRgrs: The Empire Builder is the train from Chicago to Seattle.
02:47 <@JollyRgrs> oh
02:48 <@JollyRgrs> no, it would be a train more from the southeast to wherever they went
02:58 < binaryhermit> m4221: I've taken the City of New Orleans between Carbondale, IL and Chicago, does that count?
02:58 < m4221> binaryhermit: yes
02:58 < binaryhermit> (and once the other way around)
03:02 < estranger> That train ride sounds terrible
03:03 < estranger> I ride from Naperville to Chicago and that's too long
03:04 < Church-> Ah fuck. :/
03:04 < Church-> My drill sergeant died.
03:04 < m4221> estranger: commuter train?
03:04 < binaryhermit> for the record, I think Kankakee's Amtrak station should be KKK, not KKI
03:05 < binaryhermit> but I understand why it's not
03:05 < SleePy> False, he didn't die.  Just reported to duty
03:05 < binaryhermit> It's about 6 hours, which isn't horrible
03:05 < binaryhermit> (From Carbondale to Chicago)
03:06 < binaryhermit> what's a real wtf is the Metra Rock Island District train takes about an hour and a half to go from Joliet to Chicago
03:07 < binaryhermit> https://metrarail.com/maps-schedules/train-lines/RI/map
03:08 < binaryhermit> between the less than sane route and stopping every 4 blocks for what seems like 50 blocks or so
03:08 < estranger> Yeh the metra commuter
03:09 < estranger> Bnsf line for me
03:10 < binaryhermit> when I lived in Woodridge and was going to school Carbondale my mom would pick me up in Homewood when I was coming home and drop me off in Lisle
03:11 < binaryhermit> Homewood is the last Amtrak station before Chicago for trains that go from Carbondale to Chicago
03:11 < binaryhermit> and I'd take the BNSF to Union Station
03:11 < binaryhermit> from Lisle I mean
03:14 < binaryhermit> I was going to take the train from Chicago to Emoryville, CA and a bus from there to SF to stay with my uncle last year, but he went into the hospital in March, was released to a nursing home after that and died in April
03:14 < binaryhermit> that's the longest Amtrak route, IIRC
03:14 < binaryhermit> 2+ days
03:17 < binaryhermit> anyway, I'm babbling
03:18 < estranger> To long
03:18 < estranger> I'm in SF now
03:18 < m4221> estranger: I used to drive three days from Baltimore to Cheyenne
03:18 < estranger> Well in an uber from SF to santa clara
03:19 < estranger> My mom lives in Cheyenne! We keep naming places relevant to me!
03:19 < m4221> estranger: WY?
03:19 < estranger> Yeah
03:19 < estranger> Laramie county
03:20 <@JollyRgrs> who here knows how to fry fish?
03:20 <@JollyRgrs> all starts with the oil, right?
03:20 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C68hzUG3q3Y
03:20 <+layer-eight> YouTube This lady is using motor oil to marinate the fish 🤢🤢 by 2018-04-14T01:26:21.000Z (duration: 2:17) on Sat Apr 14 08:26:21 UTC 2018, 2018-04-14T01:26:21.000Z views
03:20 < voidstar> oh jeez
03:20 < estranger> Yum
03:20 < binaryhermit> I live in Lockport now, and when I head to Chicago I usually take a bus from near my apartment to downtown joliet and take the Rock Island train downtown
03:21 < voidstar> quality shit post
03:21 <@JollyRgrs> ty voidstar
03:21 < binaryhermit> too bad the train that goes to Chicago via Lockport has a crappy schedule, inbound morning rush hour only, outbound afternoon rush hour only
03:22 < estranger> Problem with the train in my area is no parking available
03:24 < binaryhermit> if I really wanted to, I could walk to downtown Joliet via the I&M Canal trail, but it's about 6.5 miles
03:25 < binaryhermit> I've done it in the opposite direction once
03:27 < binaryhermit> but when I'm going to Chicago I'm usually carrying 2 laptop bags, one with a laptop and the other with clothes
03:44 < czarbomba> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAvcOzYXIAk
03:44 <+layer-eight> YouTube Authority Zero - Movement by 2013-01-08T13:38:20.000Z (duration: 4:11) on Tue Jan 08 20:38:20 UTC 2013, 2013-01-08T13:38:20.000Z views
03:46 < DrGibby|> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnP17YCFs8I
03:46 <+layer-eight> YouTube Mail Call SNAFU Xtra Salty bloopers ABSOFREAKINLUTELY AWESOME R. LEE ERMEY wombat23 USMC GUNNY by 2012-06-24T03:05:26.000Z (duration: 52:54) on Sun Jun 24 10:05:26 UTC 2012, 2012-06-24T03:05:26.000Z views
03:46 < DrGibby|> uhh NSFW obv
03:47 < czarbomba> salty bloopers is the name princesszoey dances under
03:48 < DrGibby|> :O
03:52 < estranger> Lol
03:57 < Ayeitzabee> Does anyone know why Centos7 shows no software selection environments when I try and install from a mirror?
03:59 <@Nostalg14c> Morning.
03:59 <+NinjaStyle> evening
03:59 <+CheckYourSix> Evening
03:59 < DrGibby|> speaking of Silicon Valley, its time to tune in :)
03:59 < DrGibby|> Evening, Nostalg14c
03:59 < Ayeitzabee> Lunchtime :D
04:01 < mkillebrew> no software selection whats?
04:14 <+CheckYourSix> Holy fuck, I'm finally getting a reimbursement check from an expense that happened more than a year ago. I just got the email it's been approved and the check should show up in the next 2-3 weeks
04:15 < bennkenn> huzzah!
04:15 <+CheckYourSix> It's only $130, but I've been fighting it for over a year just on the principle alone. It was from $lastjob
04:16 < bennkenn> even better!
04:16 < mkillebrew> The lesson here is always get a company card
04:16 <+CheckYourSix> Wasn't available at my last place
04:16 <+CheckYourSix> I have one now for this job
04:17 <+CheckYourSix> They don't even give the option to pay yourself and file for reimbursement. Only in emergencies or if your company card isn't working.
04:18 <+CheckYourSix> They reimbursed the mileage I drove right away, so I more than made out even if they never paid this hotel expense back. They never denied it, it's just been "Oh, the hotel receipt is missing the logo/address at the top, submit a new one with it" so I submit it, then they say they've updated the forms for reimbursement, needs to be re-filed, with my signature. Mail it back and forth, then there's another issue with paperwork...
04:18 <+CheckYourSix> and so on
04:19 < bennkenn> Did you work for the Gov't?
04:19 <+CheckYourSix> Let's see if they can get it here by the end of the month so this saga can end
04:19 <+CheckYourSix> It was a gov job, yes
04:19 < bennkenn> There you go
04:20 <+CheckYourSix> Tell me about it. Gov anything is awful
04:20 < bennkenn> I loved my gov job except when it came to money... took forever
04:21 <+NinjaStyle> the government totally sucks you mother fucker
04:21 < czarbomba> gubmint
04:22 <+NinjaStyle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy5e0L1p0cI
04:22 <+layer-eight> YouTube Tenacious D The Government Totally Sucks by 2008-02-25T15:19:02.000Z (duration: 4:59) on Mon Feb 25 22:19:02 UTC 2008, 2008-02-25T15:19:02.000Z views
04:29 < DrGibby|> great episode tonight
04:29 <+NinjaStyle> i need to watch still
04:29 <+NinjaStyle> i never watch live
04:30 <+CheckYourSix> I need to figure out what to do with my vacation time this year
04:30 <+NinjaStyle> go to europe
04:30 < DrGibby|> NinjaStyle: I try to catch SV and LWT live
04:30 <+MillerBOSS> Yourmom was a greater episode last night DrGibby|
04:30 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: No girlfriend to take with me. Not all that exciting going places by myself
04:30 < DrGibby|> also Barry isn't too bad
04:31 < voidstar> what about other barry?
04:32 <+CheckYourSix> Might just take several Fridays off this summer and go wakeboarding or something.
04:32 <+NinjaStyle> im gonna get back in to golf this year
04:33 <+CheckYourSix> Golf seems too boring for me. I like action sports
04:33 <+CheckYourSix> Lots of people at work, especially the managers, love to golf. I've never tried it. Just seems blah
04:33 <+NinjaStyle> its pretty good
04:33 <+NinjaStyle> its super hard
04:34 <+CheckYourSix> Hard, but doesn't give me an adrenaline rush
04:34 <+NinjaStyle> no adrenaline, thats true
04:34 <+NinjaStyle> its very skill based though
04:34 <+CheckYourSix> I might go sky diving a few times this year too. I've done it before and it was fun. Everyone is always broke or afraid though
04:35 < mkillebrew> I've always wanted to throw myself from a great height, too
04:36 <+CheckYourSix> Skydiving is a lot of fun. Once you do it, you're hooked
04:36 < mkillebrew> the more I have to deal with CEPH at work, the more I consider it
04:36 <+CheckYourSix> Mountain Biking is on the list of things I might try this year too
04:38 < m4221> I want to go cross country by train this er
04:38 < m4221> summer*
04:38 < m4221> Bucket list thinf
04:38 < m4221> thing
04:41 < xe0n> the best part about golf is the drinking :D
04:41 <+CheckYourSix> All I think is beer + drunk golf cart races
04:42 <+NinjaStyle> im gonna buy a race kart this summer too
04:42 <+NinjaStyle> that will be my adrenaline activity
04:42 < nohusuro> CheckYourSix: I found skydiving kinda boring
04:42 < m4221> NinjaStyle: I crossed that off 14 years ago
04:42 < nohusuro> way more of a rush from bungee jumping
04:43 <+NinjaStyle> m4221: ?
04:43 <+CheckYourSix> nohusuro: Skydiving is awesome. Bungees... meh... I just don't trust them
04:43 < m4221> NinjaStyle: kart racing
04:43 <+NinjaStyle> crossed it off?
04:43 < m4221> NinjaStyle: the bucket list
04:43 < nohusuro> CheckYourSix: I didn't get an adrenaline rush from it. Probably because I did a tangem
04:43 < nohusuro> tandem*
04:43 <+NinjaStyle> oh... i mean as an ongoing thing
04:44 <+NinjaStyle> i have owned race karts before and i really like racing
04:45 < xe0n> ive got into surfing since moving
04:45 < xe0n> i dabbled in it before, but now i try and get out once a week
04:45 <+NinjaStyle> i live in colorado so i cant surf
04:45 < xe0n> haha
04:45 < m4221> NinjaStyle: trains are my thing now
04:46 <+NinjaStyle> lol
04:46 < m4221> NinjaStyle: they are just cool big machines
04:46 <+NinjaStyle> so are busses
04:47 <+CheckYourSix> Hopefully nothing changes for Sunday. As of now, I'll be coming in to work to help all day. Should yield a bare minimum of 8 hours, but likely more, at double time rates
04:50 < m4221> CheckYourSix: Will this be next SundayM
04:50 < m4221> Sunday?
04:50 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> im so excited for westworld
05:21 < DrGibby|> fuck yes
05:21 < voidstar> ^
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> next week
05:21 < DrGibby|> less than two weeks innt?
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> 1 week
05:21 < DrGibby|> :DDDDDDDDDDDD
05:23 < czarbomba> super troopers 2 friday
05:24 < czarbomba> step 1) get tore the fuck up. step 2) midnight showing
05:31 <+CheckYourSix> czarbomba: ++++ I can't wait to see it
05:31 <+CheckYourSix> I wish we had a theater here that served food/booze during the showing. They have them, but not locally
05:31 < czarbomba> the schnozzberries WILL taste like schnozzberries
05:32 < czarbomba> i plan on being so high that negotiating the purchase of the movie ticket may prove to be difficult
05:32 <+CheckYourSix> Select theaters are doing a dual showing of Super Troopers followed by Super Troopers 2 on Thursday
05:32 <+CheckYourSix> Haha
05:36 < DrGibby|> step 1) cut a hole in the box. 2) put your junk in that box
05:36 <+MillerBOSS> s/junk/dick
05:36 <+layer-eight> DrGibby| meant: "step 1) cut a hole in the box. 2) put your dick in that box"
05:37 < DrGibby|> :O
05:37  * czarbomba pushes millerboss back into the quarry
05:37 < DrGibby|> :O
05:38 < czarbomba> i could use a helper monkey to go downstairs and pull my clothes out of the dryer
05:38 < DrGibby|> as a renter, does anyone else get weirded out if people are in your place?
05:38 < DrGibby|> it doesn't matter the reason
05:39 < czarbomba> i own a condo i rent out, i don't feel weird that my tenant is in there
05:39 < czarbomba> i suspect that's not what you mean though
05:39  * MillerBOSS is listening to Blake Shelton — Doing It to Country Songs (feat. The Oak Ridge Boys), from the album If I'm Honest
05:39 < precise> DrGibby|: If you have a backdoor, arm the front door with a trap full of sneks and only use the back door.
05:39 < czarbomba> blake shelton, he's the one what beat that pretty country girl, right?
05:39 < czarbomba> precise is abusive of sneks
05:40 < DrGibby|> I feel weird having strangers enter my fucking place
05:40 < precise> czarbomba: HOW DARE YOU!
05:40 < DrGibby|> even if I'm "working"
05:40 < precise> I've been watching NHL all day
05:40 < voidstar> s/working/stroking the pleasure peperoni
05:40 <+layer-eight> DrGibby| meant: "even if I'm "stroking the pleasure peperoni""
05:40 < czarbomba> i remember the place i rented in atlanta was owned by a very nosey couple who played fast and loose with the rental law requirements for entry
05:40 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: I don't like anyone in my apartment unless I let them in. Luckily, by NJ law, they have to give 24 hours notice unless it's an emergency or you authorize otherwise
05:40 < DrGibby|> uhh
05:40 < czarbomba> it was definitely creepy
05:41 < DrGibby|> they gave proper notice, its for legit reasons
05:41 < czarbomba> when i got a job offer after my coop ended and i graduated from tech i bought the condo straight away
05:41 < DrGibby|> I dont own the building but I dislike not being here
05:41 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: Even when they do, I still don't like it unless I'm here
05:41 < czarbomba> fuck so much about rentals
05:41 < DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: you're confirming what I'm saying and I like it
05:42 <+CheckYourSix> Granted, I really don't trust people and I'm overly paranoid about it...
05:42 < precise> Seriously tho
05:42 < precise> Get cameras
05:42 < DrGibby|> meh, comes with the territory re/Sec work I guess
05:43 <+CheckYourSix> I contemplated changing my locks on this apartment and seeing what would happen. It probably wouldn't be an issue unless there was an emergency
05:43 < precise> CheckYourSix: Until they evict you for some bs reason
05:43 < precise> Don't fuck with renters
05:43 < precise> Even if they have no right, it costs u a shit ton of money up front
05:43 < precise> Legal fees, etc.
05:43 <+CheckYourSix> precise: It's not a big apartment complex. It's a small place and the landlord is an 80 year old woman
05:44 < precise> Use a can of pledge and rub it into all her wooden floors, makes floors slick af, wait
05:44  * precise is going to hell
05:45 <+CheckYourSix> Lol
05:45 < czarbomba> oh, cameras/dvr are absolutely necessary
05:45 < czarbomba> especially now that they're absurdly cheap
05:46 < precise> Seriously though, I accidentally sprayed some pledge on a cloth and some of it got onto my wood floor. I slipped on that spot with good sneakers on.
05:46 <+CheckYourSix> Meh. I don't want to bother setting up cameras in my apartment. When I have my own house, camears will cover every angle
05:46 < precise> CheckYourSix: That's backwards logic
05:46 < czarbomba> one movable camera per roo
05:46 < czarbomba> m
05:46 < precise> Why would you not secure a dwelling that someone else is known to have access, vs a dwelling that only you have access to?
05:47 <+CheckYourSix> Cameras =/= security
05:47 < czarbomba> because some people can't/won't buy
05:47 < czarbomba> something something millennials
05:47 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: it is a detective security control
05:47 < precise> CheckYourSix: Place one obvious camera and a few hidden cameras
05:47 < precise> The obvious camera is the deterrent
05:48 <+CheckYourSix> I'd have to go wireless on all the cameras for the apartment too
05:48 < precise> They get around that one and assume they are safe
05:48 < czarbomba> it's especially useful of if the camera has 2-way audio
05:48 < czarbomba> -of
05:48 < precise> CheckYourSix: I take it you cant run wire?
05:48 < czarbomba> you just growl "GET OUT" through the speaker and if they're sufficiently superstitious they may just flee
05:49 <+CheckYourSix> precise: Not in this place. Plus, it's so old, it'
05:49 < czarbomba> wireless works fine
05:49 < precise> To some extent
05:49 < czarbomba> just put a password on your shit so it doesn't end up on one of those unsecured webcam feed aggregators
05:49  * precise watches CheckYourSix check their six
05:51 < precise> We have a crazy neighbour, I've been trying to convince my fam to get cameras
05:51 < precise> We actually have a few crazy neighbours
05:51 < precise> But this one in particular worries me
05:52 < DrGibby|> wyze cams btw are a recommendation
05:52 <+CheckYourSix> I'm hoping by the time I buy a house, good 4K 60 FPS cameras will be cheap and the x265 compression will take a lot less CPU to handle it. Or storage will be much cheaper
05:52 < precise> Dude hit on a girl who moved in 2 doors down, didn't back down, she said no, he ignored, sends her letters, leaves flowers on her porch, a bottle of wine at the backdoor.
05:52 < precise> She called the cops
05:53 < czarbomba> dude wtf #metoo
05:53 < precise> This dude lives next to me
05:53 <+CheckYourSix> precise: Damn.
05:53 < czarbomba> inb4 the dude next door is really precise :(
05:53 < precise> He thinks he has a friend in me, but he has stated that he doesn't like my dog
05:53 < precise> Saw the dude next to the fence near my dog
05:53 < precise> Damn near jumped the damn fence
05:53 < czarbomba> the guy or your dog
05:53 < precise> Me
05:53 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: Wyze cams $20? WTF?
05:53 <+MillerBOSS> #meetoo
05:53 < precise> I nearly killed him
05:54 < DrGibby|> precise is a peeping tom
05:54 < mkillebrew> Why, did you think he was going to hit on your dog, too?
05:54 < precise> lol
05:54 < DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: exactly
05:54 < czarbomba> he's got a type
05:54 < precise> He left sticky traps in his backyard to catch neighbour cats, stated to me that he wouldn't rescue them, would let them die
05:54 < precise> Also, is terrified of rats
05:54 < precise> Yet he hates cats
05:54 < DrGibby|> fat autistic men
05:54 < precise> dude just cant win
05:54 < mkillebrew> sounds like a real winner
05:55 < precise> I've got my eye on him... :/
05:55 < precise> Sucks living next to an unstable person
05:55 < czarbomba> why do you live with people like this, precise
05:55 < czarbomba> do you hate humanity
05:55 < Church-> Reminds me, need to grab some more of those xiaomi defang cameras.
05:55 <+MillerBOSS> s/my eye/my stink eye
05:55 <+layer-eight> precise meant: "I've got my stink eye on him... :/"
05:55 < precise> He moved in, no HOA, no way to evict him
05:55 <+CheckYourSix> czarbomba: He must live in Florida...
05:55 < precise> Michigan
05:55 < precise> The Florida of the north
05:55 < mkillebrew> because he's too poor to live somewhere nice where people just cheat on their wives and are severely alcoholic in the privacy of their own homes
05:55 < czarbomba> that does sound like a florida man thing to do
05:56 <+CheckYourSix> No way on earth will I ever buy a house controlled by an HOA
05:56 < precise> CheckYourSix: Same TBH
05:56 < czarbomba> heh. enjoy idaho.
05:56 < precise> So now the dude across the street, I've seen him 4 times in the past two years
05:56 < czarbomba> HOAs spread faster than AIDS in this country
05:56 < DrGibby|> people live in Idaho?
05:56 < precise> I'm convinced the dude has warrants
05:56 < mkillebrew> Your first mistake was socializing with your neighbors.
05:56 < czarbomba> a couple do
05:56 < precise> Our neighbourhood used to be great
05:56 < DrGibby|> czarbomba: you shut your whore mouth
05:57 < czarbomba> what?! i didn't invent the potatoes thing
05:57 < precise> Then '08 hit, 75% of the houses forclosed
05:57 < czarbomba> somebody's gotta be growing em
05:57 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: How is this camera only $20? I should buy one just to mess around with
05:57 < czarbomba> you're using the canadian "u", precise. it's not allowed in michigan
05:57 < DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: I have no idea
05:57 < DrGibby|> I have several
05:58 < precise> czarbomba: We are practically Canadian ya dyke
05:58 < czarbomba> s/mess around with/stalk precise's neighbor's crush
05:58 <+layer-eight> CheckYourSix meant: "DrGibby|: How is this camera only $20? I should buy one just to stalk precise's neighbor's crush"
05:58 < DrGibby|> I've also shipped several to dudes across the pond
05:58 < czarbomba> precise, you still have to pass through border patrol to get to sault ste marie, bitch
05:58 < precise> Do I?
05:58 < czarbomba> that or fight off mounties
05:59 < czarbomba> how are your equestrian skills
05:59 < precise> czarbomba: At the least, I have an Enhanced Drivers License, I can almost cross the boarder with impunity
05:59 < czarbomba> s/impunity/marijuana
05:59 <+layer-eight> precise meant: "czarbomba: At the least, I have an Enhanced Drivers License, I can almost cross the boarder with marijuana"
05:59 < precise> Heh
06:00 < czarbomba> i have tsa precheck, what can you do for me
06:00 < precise> I don't have TSA precheck, I don't mind the wait vs them probing me to get it
06:00 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: Powering these will be the annoying part. Not many outlets in this place
06:00 < DrGibby|> czarbomba: put a bomb on your shit
06:00 < czarbomba> they only probed my wallet
06:01 < DrGibby|> CheckYourSix: how else would you power them?
06:01 < precise> czarbomba: Last I check, they do a deeper background check on you than normal.
06:01 < DrGibby|> cams need power
06:01 <+CheckYourSix> DrGibby|: Well, POE would be great if I owned my own place and could run wires
06:01 < precise> CheckYourSix: ++
06:01 < Ayeitzabee> CheckYourSix, Just run POE cables everywhere
06:01 < DrGibby|> these are usb-c
06:02 < DrGibby|> so, find a long cable or something?
06:02 < DrGibby|> anyway, have a good night folks, I'maa crash <3
06:02 < precise> Camera's with few outlets and no cabling capability is difficult af
06:02 < precise> DrGibby|: night bru
06:02 <+CheckYourSix> precise: Yup
06:03 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah, midnight already... I'm gonna head to bed too
06:03 < precise> CheckYourSix: night
06:03 <+MillerBOSS> Dillon! You sone of a bitch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYMboTIXym4
06:03 <+layer-eight> YouTube "Dillon, you son of a bitch!" Predator epic handshake (Original version) by 2015-02-12T04:24:48.000Z (duration: 57s) on Thu Feb 12 11:24:48 UTC 2015, 2015-02-12T04:24:48.000Z views
06:05 < estranger> god bless america
06:07 < voidstar> dyillon
06:24 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh
06:24 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Just type 'mv * /dev/null'.
06:24 <+MillerBOSS> Thanks layer-eight
06:26 < precise> lol
06:30 <+NinjaStyle> wow i am retarded
06:30 <+NinjaStyle> didnt know about tmux set mouse on
06:30  * Church- slowclaps
06:30 < Church-> Well, now you know. :)
06:30 <+NinjaStyle> its super useful
06:31 <+A-KO> what's super useful?
06:31 <+NinjaStyle> tmux :set mouse on
06:31 <+NinjaStyle> had no ide
06:31 <+NinjaStyle> a
06:31 <+A-KO> ah
06:31 <+ktechmidas> what does that do? :o
06:31 <+NinjaStyle> i always scrolled with ctrl-b + [
06:31 <+NinjaStyle> you can sroll and resize panes with the mouse
06:31 <+ktechmidas> oh man.... TIL
06:32 <+ktechmidas> I've been using tmux for 8 years
06:32 < voidstar> ctrl-b + pg-up/pg-down works for me
06:32 <+NinjaStyle> yeah that works too
06:39 < czarbomba> now you know. and knowing is half the battle.
06:39 < czarbomba> the other half is red and blue lasers.
06:59 < rkeene> NinjaStyle, Did you get it working ?
07:00 <+NinjaStyle> rkeene: the smart card thing?
07:00 < rkeene> Si seniorita
07:00 <+NinjaStyle> ah, i will write a recommendation up tomorrow for the client
07:00 <+NinjaStyle> i dont have my work stuff at home
07:01 < rkeene> Slacker
07:01 <+NinjaStyle> :(
07:01 < rkeene> It's 02:00 P.M. on Monday here
07:01 < rkeene> So...
07:01 <+NinjaStyle> i actually need to write 3 reports this week
07:01 <+NinjaStyle> lol dont give me that anxiety
07:02 < rkeene> It's true
07:03 <+NinjaStyle> i dont like it
07:03 <+NinjaStyle> makes me feel behind
07:06 < rkeene> Mon Apr 16 14:06:54 KST 2018
07:06 < rkeene> TZ=Asia/Seoul date
07:10 < rkeene> Quit being so behind
07:33 < xe0n> yeah i've got a report this week to write
07:33 < xe0n> blahhhh
07:40 <@Nostalg14c> 11M security eventviewer logs makes event viewer unusable :(
07:42 < rkeene> Nostalg14c, I wrote a tool that dumps it to SQLite and that makes it much easier
07:50 < xe0n> like lite cheese
08:03 < rkeene> Cheese tea ?
08:09 <@Nostalg14c> rkeene: Yeah it's pushing selected things to logstash.
08:17 < ceofreak> Good Morning sunshines
08:20 < xe0n> the earth says hello
08:27 < rkeene> Your mom says hello
09:46 < Hatsjoe> Morning
09:51 < Wannabejrsysadm> morning
09:51 < DeVito> morning nerds
09:52 < Wannabejrsysadm> anyone who can explain me whats the diffrence between a port being untagged in VLAN 1 and tagged in VLAN 2 and 3  / TAGGED in all 3 VLANS ?
09:53 < DeVito> Untagged vlan1 means it's an access port on vlan1, so if a device plugs into it, that device can communicate over that vlan
09:53 < DeVito> You can't typically have a port be both tagged and untagged
09:53 < DeVito> Since tagged means it's a trunk and needs to plug into another trunk
09:54 < DeVito> Whereas access means an end device plugged in
10:08 < Wannabejrsysadm> DeVito how about an AP
10:08 < Wannabejrsysadm> with diffrent networks
10:08 < Wannabejrsysadm> Guest / Corporate / management
10:08 < Wannabejrsysadm> would that be a trunk port ?
10:08 < DeVito> Then the AP would have its uplink as a trunk port carrying all those tagged vlans
10:09 < DeVito> and plug into a switch trunk port with the same
10:09 < Wannabejrsysadm> ok well
10:09 < Wannabejrsysadm> we are having troubles for a while now with AP's
10:09 < Wannabejrsysadm> switch config was untagged VLAN 1 / tagged VLAN guest and managment
10:09 < Wannabejrsysadm> and it kinda worked
10:09 < Wannabejrsysadm> but not stable :P
10:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> now i made sure all 3 ports were tagged
10:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> and now it won't work anymore :p
10:10 < DeVito> Okay, what switches are you using that can be both tagged and untagged on one port?
10:10 < DeVito> Unless I'm just really tired, that's not how it's meant to be done
10:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> HP Procurves :p
10:12 < jumi> morning
10:13 < DeVito> Step one is fix your shit so you're not doing tagged and untagged both on one port
10:16 < Wannabejrsysadm> I did step one DeVito :p
10:16 < Wannabejrsysadm> funny thing is whereas the AP's sometimes worked
10:17 < Wannabejrsysadm> they now dun work anymore :p
10:18 < DeVito> Alright, well
10:18 < DeVito> If you want my help on this, I'll need a writeup on the full context
10:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> Its okay :)
10:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> saturday some Wifi Guy comes
10:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> and me and him will figure it out together :)
10:19 < DeVito> If you have specific questions, feel free to ping me and ask :D
10:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> but thanks for the clarification on the tagged / untagged shit DeVito :)
10:19 < DeVito> But it's 3am, not up for a full triage and diagnosis
10:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> why won't you go to bed ? ;o
10:20 < DeVito> Skipping the night's sleep, working on video projects
10:20 < Wannabejrsysadm> :/
10:20 < Wannabejrsysadm> not healthy ;O
10:20 < DeVito> My sleep schedule requires skipping one night a week
10:20 < DeVito> Or else it keeps getting offset
10:20 < Trapdoor> uh DeVito
10:21 < Trapdoor> that's not a sleep cycle
10:21 < Trapdoor> s/cycle/schedule
10:21 <+layer-eight> Trapdoor meant: "that's not a sleep schedule"
10:21 < Trapdoor> that's a disorder and a pattern of self-destructive behavior
10:21 < DeVito> Welcome to my entire life, my friend
10:21 < Trapdoor> I guess you're suffering from DSPD?
10:22 < DeVito> I've had issues sleeping my entire life, if anything they're not as bad now as they used to be
10:22 < Wannabejrsysadm> Trapdoor everyone once start selfdestruction Trapdoor if you think about it ;)
10:22 < DeVito> Well, I'd categorise borderline personality disorder as the main thing I'm suffering from
10:22 < DeVito> Other things stem from both that, and the medication I take for it
10:22 < Trapdoor> everyone suffers from a personality disorder
10:22 < Trapdoor> well, varying degrees of it anyways
10:22 < Trapdoor> have a look at delayed sleep phase disorder and see if the symptoms match
10:22 < DeVito> I'd imagine not everyone also experiences clinical psychosis and dissociation with it
10:23 < Trapdoor> No not everyone
10:23 < DeVito> Nor do they need to take clozapine and a mood stabiliser to function
10:23 < DeVito> Gets really funky without the clozapine
10:23 < Trapdoor> Ever tried just being normal?
10:23 < DeVito> You know, I've tried that off and on for a few decades now
10:23 < DeVito> Never quite worked out
10:23 < Trapdoor> Same, same
10:24 < DeVito> And yes, from what I've looked into in the past
10:24 < DeVito> My circadian period is likely closer to 28 houts
10:24 < DeVito> hours*
10:25 < DeVito> Entirely from self-evaluation and attempts at logging, mind, nothing professional on that
10:25 < Trapdoor> Sounds like DSPD too, but that could be a symptom of other things
10:25 < Trapdoor> chronotherapy helped me for a couple of months
10:26 < DeVito> I've tried various things, but they don't work well in combination with my line of work
10:27 < Wannabejrsysadm> you know what works DeVito
10:27 < Wannabejrsysadm> going to the gym
10:27 < Wannabejrsysadm> 5 times a week
10:27 < Wannabejrsysadm> solves everything
10:27 < DeVito> I do go to the gym
10:27 < DeVito> Though 4 days a week
10:28 < DeVito> Physically tiring myself doesn't help me sleep
10:48 < Trapdoor> ok so
10:48 < Trapdoor> fuck google
10:48 < Trapdoor> holy shit
10:49 < Trapdoor> I've tried to have google assistant send a simple http get request to a local webserver and it is fucking impossible
10:49 < Trapdoor> Apparently there's some bullshit "fullfilment" server requirement where actions done by the assistant aren't run on your local device but on a google server
10:49 < Trapdoor> fulfilment even
10:50 < DeVito> The better to monetise your data
10:50 < Trapdoor> I can use Google Assistant with IFTTT and "webhooks" to do what I want to do, but it only lets you send requests to a public IP
10:50 < Trapdoor> holy shit how? why?!
10:51 < Trapdoor> I want to register a sentence like "turn on the TV" that sends a simple http get request to a local webserver without having to jump through a bunch of hoops
10:52 < Trapdoor> Do I look like I want to punch a fucking hole through my firewall just to turn my god damn TV on or off?
10:52 < Trapdoor> I'm a god damn sysadmin for fuck's sake
10:54 < Trapdoor> then you've got fucking sentences like this: "There is also Node RED [0] too. Personally a Node RED instance sitting in the cloud talking to my local HASS via MQTT would be an ideal alternative to IFTTT."
10:54 < Trapdoor> what the fuck even is this mess?
11:00 < Trapdoor> "hurr durr just use a reverse proxy" fuck you
11:16 < rkeene> :-P
11:37 < mtnielsen> is rm supposed to just give up and fail if you ask it to delete too many files?
11:41 < mtnielsen> I have too many files
11:44 < mtnielsen> ls won't even list them all
11:46 < mtnielsen> it's only 586k files...
11:50 < mtnielsen> Trapdoor you forget that Google essentially runs everything on public ips, even all their internal services
11:50 < mtnielsen> and you better do as Google does, or else
11:52 < Hatsjoe> mtnielsen: I have seen this before yeah, rm cannot delete that many files (e.g. rm -f *)
11:52 < Hatsjoe> what you can do however is delete the complete directory, or delete using 'find'
11:52 < Hatsjoe> or delete in smaller batches, so be more specific with your wildcards
11:53 < mtnielsen> yeah powershell to the rescue, I just created 99 batches of rm commands
11:54 < Trapdoor> it's infuriating mtnielsen
11:54 < Trapdoor> I've got my laptop hooked up to my surround receiver via RS232 and I'm turning on my tv using WOL
11:55 < Trapdoor> I can also turn off my receiver + tv using a sleep on lan packet (joking, it's LG WebOS)
11:55 < Trapdoor> So I should be able to launch the script on my laptop's webserver with a get request, and I can with a browser but...
11:56 < Trapdoor> fucking google holy shit
11:57 < Trapdoor> Sorry, I've spent the whole god damn weekend trying to figure this shit out
11:57 < Trapdoor> sorry not sorry
11:57 < Trapdoor> I'm still mad
12:17 < Atro> lol
13:04 < Wannabejrsysadm> Atro are you here but buddy ?
13:04 < Atro> wat
13:05 < Wannabejrsysadm> I haz network problams
13:05 < Atro> im busy playing factorio at work
13:05 < Atro> speaketh
13:05 < Wannabejrsysadm> So i have 2 troublesome AP's on an hold HP Procurve 4208 vl switch, config was UNTAGGED VLAN 1 / Tagged 300 (guest) 100 (Mgmt)
13:06 < Wannabejrsysadm> appearantly having a port both tagged and untagged shouldn't even be allowed
13:06 < Atro> ok go on
13:06 < Atro> why
13:06 < Wannabejrsysadm> dunno its either an access port or trunk ?
13:06 < Wannabejrsysadm> anyhow, i looked at the config of other AP's who work perfeclty fine
13:06 < Wannabejrsysadm> and they were tagged in 1,300,100
13:06 < Atro> no, there's a hybrid
13:06 < Atro> it's called native
13:06 < Atro> in your initial config
13:07 < Atro> 300,100 are trunk, 1 is native
13:07 < Wannabejrsysadm> ok so what i did
13:07 < Wannabejrsysadm> i changed 1 also as tagged
13:07 < Wannabejrsysadm> since that worked for the other AP's
13:07 < Wannabejrsysadm> but not for those D:
13:07 < Wannabejrsysadm> they wen't offline
13:07 < Wannabejrsysadm> if i change 1 back to untagged
13:07 < Wannabejrsysadm> they come online again
13:08 < Wannabejrsysadm> so i'm thinking something is wrong with the vlan traffic between switches ?
13:08 < Atro> check ap config
13:08 < Atro> maybe they're differently configured
13:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> it works with a controller (RFS4000)
13:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> but yeah 'il relead config
13:10 < Wannabejrsysadm> and check out the configs
13:11 < Wannabejrsysadm> Atro what am i looking for tho, I think the port config on the AP's itself right
13:11 < Wannabejrsysadm> should also be trunk
13:11 < Wannabejrsysadm> I guess
13:11 < Atro> should be the same as the rest
13:11 < Atro> consistency brah
13:12 < Wannabejrsysadm> heheh
13:12 < Wannabejrsysadm> i'm still suspecting this procuve 4208vl
13:12 < Wannabejrsysadm> its 15 years old
13:12 < Wannabejrsysadm> i don't trust it!
13:12 < Atro> meh
13:12 < Wannabejrsysadm> since i'm only 10 years older :3
13:13 < Wannabejrsysadm> i was 10 years old when they started using this switch ;.;
13:13 < Wannabejrsysadm> and now i'm managing this :3
13:13 < Atro> lol
13:13 < Atro> check vlan consistency
13:13 < Atro> maybe you forgot to trunk something
13:14 < Atro> you should have macs on all 3 vlans on that sw
13:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> Atro well
13:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> when i do Show mac-address vlan 1
13:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> 100
13:18 < Wannabejrsysadm> and 300
13:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> I get a list with ports and mac adresses
13:19 < Wannabejrsysadm> So I assume its working
13:47 < FreEm1nD> Are those Seagate 'Enterprise Capacity' SAS drives reliable for running the operating system too?
13:53 < Wannabejrsysadm> Anyway you can monitor who touched what file on a file server ?
13:53 < Wannabejrsysadm> people are accidently dragging and dropping folders
13:53 < Wannabejrsysadm> into wrong folders
13:53 < Casteil> install remote monitoring systems and hire a team to monitor every employee 24/7
13:56 < DrGibby|> File auditing, Wannabejrsysadm
14:05 < tenthshift> I believe you can change permissions to prevent people from moving folders as well
14:05 < tenthshift> while allowing them to still alter files and subfolders
14:07 <+giant_it_burrit> kill them all?
14:07 <@cryptic1> morning
14:10 < ekaj_> Favorite comment on a reddit thread "Not even that, I've seen an IoT toilet. Imagine a botnet full of toilets. A shitnet if you will"
14:10 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/3eKeihe.png < The battery on this Moto X4 <3
14:11 < ekaj_> .bofh
14:11 <+layer-eight> ekaj_, BOFH says: Having to manually track the satellite.
14:25 < Wannabejrsysadm> Atro ugh i can't seem to figure it out :(
14:26 < Wannabejrsysadm> Casteil well you only used your screen for 4 hours ? :p
14:26 < Casteil> 4.5
14:27 < Casteil> some of that is probably alarm+vibrate while snoozing the alarm haha
14:30 < tsarbomba> good morning, all you hard workers
14:34 < Jekotia_1> Here's an interesting quirk: USB 3.0 Ethernet adapter -> USB 2.0 HUB -> USB 3.0 port on PC. The network adapter flat out does not work. Had to change to a USB 2.0 port on the host PC.
14:38 <+AnonymooseReddtr> morning nerds
14:39 < Jekotia> With a name like that, you're by far the larger nerd.
14:40 <+AnonymooseReddtr> by far
14:40 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yes
14:40 < Jekotia> So you agree that because you're a moose, your fat compared to us?
14:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i'm actually not that fat
14:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> but ok
14:42 < Jekotia> You have more layers of fat than a human, since you partially rely on that for warmth during the winter. Source: Am Canadian, I see wild moose.
14:42 < Jekotia> And those bastards have a wonderful swinging layer of fat as they run
14:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
14:43 < Jekotia> McDonaldsWiFi: Can I trade you for better WIFi?
14:43 <+giant_it_burrit> not on his dolla menu
14:45 < tsarbomba> inflation's a bitch
14:46 < Jekotia> Reads "Download and install pre-compiled Zabbix agents" -> Downloads -> Opens archive -> Sees a bunch of "loose" files that in no way constitute an installer. I don't think I've ever heard of installing Windows software without an installer.
14:46 < meowschwitz> butt cakes
14:48  * cryptic1 looks into the room
14:48 <+AnonymooseReddtr> cryptic1 you still have power
14:49 <+CheckYourSix> Man I love thunderstorms. It started off as just rain yesterday morning but now it's heavy rain and loud thunder
14:49 <+CheckYourSix> We've been getting hammered. My yard looks like a lake
14:49 <@cryptic1> AnonymooseReddtr, yeap brown outs all weekend, brief power outages too
14:53 < DrGibby|> cryptic1: get back to work
14:53 <@cryptic1> D:
14:53 < DrGibby|> cryptic1: turn that frown upside down
14:54 < br14> "br14, take a quick snapshot of the xyz directory" ... 80K word files, glad I dont work for that group.
14:54 <@cryptic1> :D
14:55 < Jekotia> CheckYourSix: I thought there was a thunderstorm last night. It took me a few minutes to notice how off the end of each "strike" sounded, and look out my window. The sound was actually the scrape of a truck-mounted snow shovel on pavement.
14:56 < Jekotia> That moment when you feel dumb AF, and realise you shold probably sleep.
14:58 < tsarbomba> RIP r. lee ermey
14:59 < br14> He was awesome, I'll pour some out for him tonight
15:00 < tsarbomba> i may need to watch siege of firebase gloria tonight
15:02 < onenerdyguy> mornin
15:10 < br14> I didn't realize how many voice over roles he has played.
15:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> Jekotia: sure, but only if you don't mind that I'm a honey pot muhahaha
15:12 < Jekotia> McDonaldsWiFi: I use my own VPN for public wifi, so meh.
15:13 < Jekotia> It's like a condom for my phone/tablet/etc
15:13 < rootsudo> I don't want to come backt o USA
15:13 < rootsudo> Jekotia your own vpn isn't probably secure
15:13 < rootsudo> if it's an appliance, it's been broken by NSA
15:13 < rootsudo> it's software on an VPS it's prbably backdoored by the provider and more
15:13 < onenerdyguy> i do TCP over Smoke Signal
15:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> Jekotia: smart man, I do too
15:14 < Jekotia> rootsudo: I mean personal, not work. I wish I had the disposable income for appliances I don't NEED
15:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> OpenVPN and the power of P F S E N S E
15:14 < Jekotia> I use OpenVPN on a Raspberry Pi
15:14 < rootsudo> McDonaldsWiFi openvpn isn't solid
15:14 < rootsudo> pfsense isn't useful because it's a fucking VPN
15:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> rootsudo: aww man can I have anything?
15:14 < rootsudo> you don't know which connections are incoming so even if you leave port 80 or any port open
15:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> rootsudo: why are you so angry
15:14 < rootsudo> McDonaldsWiFi I'm not
15:14 < rootsudo> Paranoia is key
15:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah for sure
15:14 < rootsudo> you need paranoia, paranois is safe, paranois is life
15:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah that's true
15:15 < rootsudo> like for example I treat my dating the same as I treat unknown networks
15:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> so, how can i make it better then?
15:15 < jaelae> i like this ticket: please delete these 8 servers. I don't think they are being used
15:15 < rootsudo> Did you know if you do a TCP handshake
15:15 < rootsudo> it's the same as IRL dating
15:15 < jaelae> im not very confident in this person's ticket to have me delete servers
15:15 < rootsudo> jaelae but
15:15 < rootsudo> just reply you did and don't do anything
15:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> jaelae: make an image of it first :P
15:16 < jaelae> i submitted it for change approval instead
15:16 < rootsudo> jaelae pussy
15:16 < jaelae> in case someones like oh shit im gonna use those
15:16 < rootsudo> I can't believe I got 100mbps fiber in the philippines
15:17 < rootsudo> do you know how hard this is to get
15:17 < rootsudo> I had to take the sales manager on a date and
15:17 < rootsudo> well she keeps messaging me and I'm afraid she's going to hold my fiber hostage
15:17 < rootsudo> :(
15:17 < tenthshift> rootsudo marry her for her fiber
15:18 < rootsudo> tenthshift she's too homely, I'm to young for that.
15:18 < tenthshift> then download all the things you need and divorce her
15:18 < rootsudo> I like a dangerous spontenous girls
15:18 < rootsudo> she keeps messging if I've ate and to cook me food and man that phrase of paying them to go away never rung so true
15:18 < tsarbomba> tl;dr rootsudo is now one of dugong's assets
15:20 < jaelae> yuuup
15:20 < tsarbomba> is everybody here thrilled that monday is here
15:20 < jaelae> i enjoy me some monday
15:21 < jaelae> i haven't been to my companies office in 2 years but i hear they now have a quiet room for naps
15:21 < tsarbomba> s/naps/molestation
15:21 <+layer-eight> jaelae meant: "i haven't been to my companies office in 2 years but i hear they now have a quiet room for molestation"
15:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> rootsudo: now I gotta google some hardening stuff and make sure i'm good
15:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> thanks for the extra dose of anxiety lol
15:22 < estranger> WOOHOOO Everyone do the Monday Dance!
15:22  * estranger jumps on the table swingings his hips around
15:22 < tsarbomba> just assume you've already been hacked by russians
15:22 < hxcsp> i had to drink 3 red bulls to stay awake this morning
15:22 < tsarbomba> when you die can i have your heart for science
15:22 < hxcsp> maybe not 3. just 1.
15:22 < tsarbomba> i want to see what that much guarine does to human organs
15:22 < hxcsp> but still
15:23 < hxcsp> i feel like i need 3
15:24 < alazare619> "Scientists have surmised there is a stream of viruses circling the planet, above the planet’s weather systems but below the level of airline travel. Very little is known about this realm, and that’s why the number of deposited viruses stunned the team in Spain. Each day, they calculated, some 800 million viruses cascade onto every square meter of the planet."
15:25  * Jekotia just realised that anyone with the name Frederic has two first names; Fred & Eric
15:25 < rootsudo> McDonaldsWiFi ;)
15:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> >.>
15:26 < alazare619> "Generally it’s assumed these viruses originate on the planet and are swept upward, but some researchers theorize that viruses actually may originate in the atmosphere. "
15:26 < alazare619> DEATH TO THE ATMOSPHERE
15:26 < rootsudo> wow viruses originate in the amtmosphere
15:26 < rootsudo> fucking this world is crazy
15:26 < rootsudo> fucking alien invaders
15:28 < alazare619> Researchers recently identified an ancient virus that inserted its DNA into the genomes of four-limbed animals that were human ancestors. That snippet of genetic code, called ARC, is part of the nervous system of modern humans and plays a role in human consciousness — nerve communication, memory formation and higher-order thinking.
15:28 < alazare619> everything i know is a lie
15:29 < alazare619> everything!
15:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> Anyone know if I can finangle a way of getting RSAT on a windows server OS instead of 10?
15:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> Really don't want to spin up another VM on my home lab for this :'(
15:30 < tsarbomba> what kind of scientologist bullshit is this
15:39 <+AnonymooseReddtr> McDonaldsWiFi... you should be able to use MMC / RSAT on a server?
15:40 < vinrock> mcd's dont download the win10 rsat
15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> AnonymooseReddtr: I'm starting to think RSAT sis only for windows 10
15:40 < vinrock> get the old opne
15:40 < vinrock> nop
15:40 < tsarbomba> lolwat
15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> is it 2016 compat?
15:40 < tsarbomba> rsat's been around for years
15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> i mean the new one you try hard
15:40 < tsarbomba> i know how to get rsat working on server 2012. so maybe watch your fucking tone, rook
15:40 < vinrock> shots fired
15:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> tsarbomba: LOL rook? xD
15:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> tsarbomba: how'd you get it working? Do I need to get my virgin to sacrifice?
15:42 < sideup66> .bofh
15:42 <+layer-eight> sideup66, BOFH says: Electricians made popcorn in the power supply
15:42  * McDonaldsWiFi grabs sideup66
15:42 < sideup66> Lol
15:42 < sideup66> Wat
15:42 < sideup66> .bofh
15:42 <+layer-eight> sideup66, BOFH says: The mouse escaped.
15:42 < sideup66> !lower
15:42 < sideup66> !dong
15:43 < tsarbomba> normally i would say sacrifice the virgin just to be safe but hunterkll is still in iceland
15:43 < alazare619> https://reactos.org/project-news/reactos-048-released
15:43 < alazare619> exiting
15:43 < Hatter> well good morning I guess
15:43 < alazare619> reactos now can do windows vista,7,8,10 software
15:44 < tsarbomba> my nearby grocery store was caught selling conflict chickens
15:48 < tsarbomba> 1700 calorie cheeseburger at chili's
15:49 < jaelae> any recommended tools to scan AD periodically for stale records?
15:49 < meowschwitz> huh
15:50 < meowschwitz> this reactos thing looks legit
15:50 <+giant_it_burrit> eyes?
15:50 < DrGibby|> I want some tacos
15:58 < vinrock> man, it's like a monsoon outside
15:58 < vinrock> the street in front of my office gets flooded good so i point the ptz cam at it and watch people blast the thing
15:58 < vinrock> fuckin cop just showed up and rtuined the fun
16:01 < XV8> Morning
16:03 <+giant_it_burrit> vinrock: where?
16:03 <+giant_it_burrit> nyc isnt bad atm
16:04 < vinrock> it's been absolutely crazy around here since like 3am
16:04 < vinrock> driving in this morning could barely see
16:04 < vinrock> im like 15m from staten island
16:04 < vinrock> 15min
16:04 < felda> wew my domain dns is completely fucked :D
16:04 < hxcsp> Spring, TX :: Clear :: 57F/13C | Monday: Sunny. High 81F. Winds SSE at 10 to 15 mph.
16:04 < hxcsp> :o
16:05 < hxcsp> great weather around here
16:05 < vinrock> it's spring
16:05 < vinrock> spring just sucks
16:05 < felda> we don't talk about weather here in the Midwest
16:05 < felda> it only brings misfortune
16:05 < vinrock> didnt michigan just get like 12+ inches over the weekend
16:06 < vinrock> giggity
16:06 < felda> why is this domain so annoying
16:06 <+AnonymooseReddtr> did she like it vinrock?
16:06 < hxcsp> because you own it
16:07 < felda> for some reason AD doesn't work if DNS Server isn't running
16:07 < felda> but also Quickbooks server gets angry if DNS Server starts before it does
16:07 < felda> so what the fuck am I supposed to do?
16:07 < hxcsp> maybe put quickbooks not on your domain controller
16:07 <+AnonymooseReddtr> rofl
16:08 < felda> wow what a novel idea I never thought of
16:08 < felda> it's almost like I have only 1 server
16:08 < hxcsp> integrate it into your pfsense felda
16:08 < felda> lol
16:08 < felda> that'll be the day
16:08 < felda> the gods will smite me for my hubris
16:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> tsarbomba: apparently if you rig rsat 2016 to work on server 2016 itll kill half the features :(
16:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> inc hyper-v manager
16:09 < felda> does Veeam Endpoint work with Windows Server Core?
16:11 <+AnonymooseReddtr> felda i doubt it
16:11 < felda>  (ಥ﹏ಥ)
16:12 < felda> wait wait wait now
16:12 < felda> Windows 7 Pro and Windows 10 Pro can run Hyper-V right?
16:12 < hxcsp> felda: what kind of server do you have.  you could repurpose it as a Hyper-V host and use virtual machines instead
16:12 < felda> hxcsp I have a Dell 320 or something like that
16:12 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yea they can run hyper-v
16:12 < hxcsp> or something like that
16:12 < hxcsp> nice
16:13 < hxcsp> ><
16:13 < felda> wait no
16:13 < felda> Dell R210
16:13 < felda> 1TB of storage so I could do Hyper-V
16:13 < hxcsp> how much ram?
16:13 < felda> 32GB
16:13 < hxcsp> yeah you could do hyperv
16:13 < felda> enough
16:13 < felda> but I just need a Hyper-V host that can run Crashplan client and Veeam Endpoint
16:14 < felda> so why not take one of my old PCs. Rip the windows key out and use that as Hyper-V host :D
16:14 < felda> so dumb it just might work
16:14 < hxcsp> doesnt solve your problem of running quickbooks with your domain controller
16:14 < XV8> You could also do P2V migration
16:14 < felda> nah it doesn't
16:15 < XV8> Does it require any special hardware?
16:15 < felda> nope
16:15 < hxcsp> use the old PC as a secondary domain controller.
16:15 < hxcsp> for while you are repurposing your main server
16:15 < felda> I've run Quickbooks server off of Windows 7 before so I could just run it side by side the hyper-v host
16:15 < hxcsp> then your hyperv host can have VM's for DC/DNS, Quickbooks/Crashplan/Veeam
16:16 < hxcsp> just my two cents
16:16 < felda> I only have Window Server Essentials tho
16:16 < alazare619> ready player one is an AWESOME MOVIE
16:16 < felda> so technically I can only run 1VM of it
16:16 < alazare619> holly shit so many references
16:16 <+AnonymooseReddtr> ...
16:16 < alazare619> the gundam wing one was awesome
16:16 <+AnonymooseReddtr> felda 0 setup an Azure VM to host quickbooks
16:17 < alazare619> https://www.shmoop.com/ready-player-one/allusions.html
16:17 < felda> Doesn't that cost dollars  though?
16:17 < alazare619> the list of refrences is so long its insane
16:19 < tapoxi> alazare619: I hated it but I appreciated the more subtle bttf references. zemekis cube, poster for mayor goldie wilson, alan silvertri just using some parts of the bttf score
16:19 < vinrock> looking forward to it on bluray
16:19 < vinrock> is the story itself good?
16:19 < vinrock> i havent read shit about it, wanna keep things a surprise
16:20 < alazare619> tapoxi:  really i havent met a single person who disliked it
16:20 < alazare619> i found it amazing movie
16:20 < alazare619> just for hte sole pop culture
16:20 < tapoxi> yeah I guess that didnt do it for me
16:20 < alazare619> like most people probably iddnt catch all of hte highlander refrences either tho
16:23 < vinrock> you guys see that r. lee died over the weekend
16:23 < hxcsp> felda: do you work for a non profit or something
16:23 < hxcsp> some things you have to throw money at to fix :p
16:23 < felda> no just a regular small business
16:24 < felda> I make due and usually everything works quite well
16:24 < felda> just when I reboot the server QuickBooks doesn't autostart correctly
16:24 < felda> I usually only reboot the server to install updates so it's not a huge deal
16:24 < vinrock> what goes wrong when it doesnt start up
16:24 < felda> I'm more concerned about making my AD/DC virtual so I can drop it on whatever hardware I need
16:24 < vinrock> i never really have issues with the qb server
16:25 < vinrock> every once in a blue moon gotta run file doctor but thats it
16:25 < felda> vinrock if Windows DNS Server is running before QuickBooks start it locks a file that QB wants
16:25 < felda> then the QB server goes REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and crashes
16:25 < vinrock> hm
16:25 < tenthshift> felda what kind of virtualization
16:25 < felda> likely Hyper-V
16:26 < tenthshift> I've heard it recommended that you don't virtualize your primary AD/DC controller
16:26 < felda> mostly so I can run Veeam Endpoint on the host and do USB backups
16:26 < hxcsp> all my domain controllers are virtualized
16:26 < tenthshift> I don't know how Hyper-V works specifically, but the theory sorta makes sense imo
16:27 < tenthshift> if your DC is not up yet when you're booting your hypervisors or other VMs
16:27 < Church-> Morning folks
16:27 < hxcsp> i think if all your hosts are domain joined then its best practice to havee a non vm
16:27 < tenthshift> hxcsp right
16:27 < hxcsp> but normal people use vmware anyways
16:27 < felda> lol
16:27 < hxcsp> ;D
16:27 < alazare619> "To battle Mechagodzilla, Daito assumes the mobile suited body of an RX-78-2 Gundam from the iconic Japanese anime Mobile Suit Gundam (1979). However, I personally would have recommended he’d selected Heero Yuy’s Wing Zero from Gundam Wing (1996) if he wanted to truly wreck Mechagodzilla."
16:28 < tenthshift> alazare619, did you see pacific rim?
16:28 < tenthshift> also lol @ Gundam Wing, I briefly dated a girl who was super into that show, specifically yaoi fanfiction for it
16:29 < tenthshift> she really really wanted Heero to poon one of the other dudes, and was willing to twist any line of dialogue in that cartoon to imply that they were secretly lovers
16:29 < Hatter> tenthshift: she was probably psychologically disturbed
16:29 < tenthshift> Hatter indeed she was
16:29 < felda> I also considered running the AD/DC on some sort of Linux with KVM
16:29 < tenthshift> it gave me an insight into weeb culture I would have otherwise not had though
16:30 < tenthshift> and for that I appreciate her weirdness
16:30 < felda> ;_; Veeam Agent for Linux isn't free
16:30 < felda> RIP my plan
16:30 < alazare619> tenthshift:  ready player one
16:30 < rootsudo> If we were on star trek
16:30 < rootsudo> are we yellow or red shirts
16:30 < alazare619> whic is amazing
16:30 < alazare619> i am sad tho i didnt see any pogs refrences
16:31 < ihre> felda: https://www.freeipa.org/page/Main_Page / https://access.redhat.com/products/identity-management
16:31 < felda> wait oh shit there is a free version
16:31 < felda> neat
16:31 < ihre> ah on a windows vm through kvm, nvm :3
16:31 < ihre> til i cant read
16:32 < felda> Aww yis crashplan pro has an app for linux
16:33 < tenthshift> rootsudo depends on the era of star trek doesn't it?
16:33 < felda> Does Hannah Montanna Linux have KVM?
16:33 < rootsudo> tenthshift enterprise, voyager, or the new one
16:33 < tenthshift> red shirts were engineers in the william shatner era
16:33 < tenthshift> yellow shirts were engineers in the patrick stewart era
16:33 < tenthshift> but either way pretty sure we'd all be engineers
16:34 < tenthshift> alazare619, pacific rim is good too; if you like giant bipedal robots fighting godzilla monsters
16:34 < rootsudo> that's sad
16:34 < rootsudo> so we don't get much alien touchy
16:34 < tenthshift> del toro basically tricked american audiences into watching straight up anime
16:34 < tenthshift> rootsudo we also don't get murdered in high numbers anytime something explodes
16:34 < vinrock> i fucking loved pacific rim
16:34 < vinrock> giant robits = two thumbs up
16:34 < rootsudo> tenthshift it's 50/50
16:35 < tenthshift> so there's upsides
16:35 < tenthshift> vinrock yeah I really enjoyed it too
16:35 < vinrock> you ever seen iron sky
16:35 < Church-> The nazi flick?
16:35 < tenthshift> The detective noir space nazies right?
16:35 < vinrock> yeah
16:35 < grumplestiltzkin> oh, the voltron movie is out?
16:35 < Church-> It was... okay
16:35 < vinrock> man that nmovie ruled
16:35 < tenthshift> tbh the movie itself was terrible
16:35 < vinrock> it was just nuts
16:36 < tenthshift> imo
16:36 < tenthshift> but the filmography, the setting and shit, was glorious
16:36 < tenthshift> the writing was just lame
16:36 < tenthshift> I would love a video game set in that universe though
16:36 < vinrock> yeah but i think it was purposely cheezy
16:36 < tenthshift> I can get behind that idea
16:36 < tenthshift> it kinda had to be done with a level of cheese
16:36 < vinrock> can't wait for super troopers 2
16:37 < tenthshift> you can't take space nazis seriously
16:37 < vinrock> might be the first movie i go to the theater for in like 10 years
16:37 < mkillebrew> space nazis are the best kind
16:37 < tenthshift> apparently they either made or wanted to make a second iron sky
16:37 < vinrock> especially dark side of the oon secret bases
16:37 < tenthshift> most people I know are super psyched for super troopers 2
16:37 < tenthshift> the mustache rides again
16:37 < grumplestiltzkin> so it was similar to the fir^C^C^C^C^C^C all of the transformers movies - where the dialog doesn't make any sense at all ?
16:37 < mkillebrew> ^C isn't ^H
16:37 < mkillebrew> stop doing that wrong
16:37 < tenthshift> grumplestiltzkin, it was super cliche, was my main thing
16:38 < tenthshift> every part of every character's arc was just about exactly what $generic-movie-character-archetype would do
16:38 < tenthshift> so the movie itself was super predictable
16:39 < tenthshift> but that kinda allowed for more time staring at the background world
16:39 < tenthshift> so maybe that wasn't all bad
16:39 < grumplestiltzkin> you need that once in a while - all the tropes and cliches, plus robots fighting
16:40 < tenthshift> mkillebrew, maybe he was terminating his process
16:40 < tenthshift> I just hope super troopers 2 doesn't bomb
16:40 < tenthshift> I really want that studio to make more movies
16:40 < Church-> It was a fucking terrible movie.
16:40 < Church-> But a fun
16:41 < tenthshift> if this comeback doesn't do well I doubt anyone will fund them
16:41 < Church-> movie all the same.*
16:41 < grumplestiltzkin> something something club dread
16:43 < vinrock> yeah that movie was whack but beerfest was an all time great movie
16:44 < vinrock> so i think theyre in the lead
16:44 < grumplestiltzkin> yeah, beerfest was up there almost with supertroopers
16:45 < mkillebrew> I'll wait until I can buy it on Amazon Video
16:46 < Jekotia> Just fixed with what has to be one of the worst RJ45 crimp jobs ever. None of the 8 wires were PAST the first of the two prongs that impale the wire. They all barely touched it. And the solid brown had no insulation. Bare copper.
16:46 < felda> Do Windows Domains require Windows DNS Server running to function 100%?
16:47 < vader-> pretty sure you need them to be so you have an AD DNS Zone
16:47 < mrghostman> AD is not gonna work without DNS
16:47 < _fuzzzerd> yeah
16:47 < felda> I know it won't work without DNS
16:47 < mrghostman> relys on it heavily
16:47 < felda> but I'm running DNS on my firewall
16:47 < felda> do I need to make PTR records for the zone?
16:48 < vinrock> doesnt need a reverse zone to function but ive never ran a domain without windows taking care of dns
16:48 < felda> ~_~ damn
16:48 < grumplestiltzkin> iirc to promote a DC, it has to have DNS - but that doesn't mean you have to point at it
16:48 < vader-> im probably going to guarantee your firewall DNS is not capable of handling the DNS entries required
16:48 < vinrock> im comfortable with like, dhcp running off the fw but not dns
16:49 < chainz> any mysql pros here? i'm having trouble figuring out a replication issue
16:49 < mkillebrew> replication hates everyone equally
16:50 < mkillebrew> You're not trying to do anything fancy, are you? like some awful circular replication?
16:50 < chainz> nah
16:50 < chainz> replication halts but the slave stays on waiting for events
16:50 < chainz> this is the event in the log that seems to be holding it up
16:52 < mkillebrew> ...
16:52 < mkillebrew> what's 'show slave status \g' say
16:53 < mkillebrew> is there a space? status\g ?
16:53 < chainz> SET @@SESSION.GTID_NEXT= 'AUTOMATIC' /* added by mysqlbinlog */ /*!*/;
16:54 < chainz> http://dpaste.com/2W3V7ZA
16:57 < jaelae> Please contact Winmagic Technical support
16:57 < jaelae> i hate this encryption shit
16:58 < felda> anyone know of a way to script starting a service after another starts?
16:58 < felda> I figured maybe I could get something that starts Windows DNS Server, but only after QB DB Server was started
17:00 < jaelae> felda:  technically you could modify a service like this:  sc config  [service] depend = [QB DB Server service name]
17:00 < jaelae> then it will know that it needs that other service to be running first
17:00 < jaelae> but if you stop QB DB server in this situation it will also stop windows dns server since it sa dependency so not sure if that is really what you want
17:02 < asimon> Good morning my friends
17:03  * giant_it_burrit looks around
17:03 <+giant_it_burrit> whoya talking to?
17:03 < rootsudo> felda yes you can query a service state
17:03 < felda> oooh actually
17:03  * asimon :(
17:03 < felda> upon deeper digging I can force the port to not get locked up with NetSH
17:04 < felda> a permanent fix should be imminent
17:04 < rootsudo> jaelae wait, QB as in quickooks?
17:04 < felda> yep
17:04 < felda> QuickBooks uses the same ports as Windows DNS Server
17:04 < rootsudo> that's fucking bullshit
17:04 < felda> yep
17:04 < felda> but I can use NetSH to force specific port ranges to be used and reserved
17:05 < rootsudo> yeah you reserve it via netsh
17:05 < rootsudo> but man that is bullshit
17:05 < felda> yeah really really bad programming on Intuits part
17:05 < rootsudo> so litereally QB has to run first otherwise it fails?
17:06 < rootsudo> felda it's a google but what about: c:\ProgramData\Quicbooks\QBGLOBALAPPCONFIG.ini modfying the port there
17:06 < DrGibby|> run it on port 1337 felda
17:09 < Hatter> what's that new game that some people have said is like a Stalker MMO
17:10 < DrGibby|> FarCry?
17:11 < XV8> https://i.redd.it/zwfytrjg7as01.jpg
17:11 < Casteil> CheckYourSix: you around? what's that salary negotiation article you always link
17:13 < L3gacy> Good bacon to all!
17:13 < silentfury> your definition of good bacon, depends on the way you like your bacon...
17:13 < DrGibby|> very good silentfury
17:13 < bmurt> cooked is my preference silentfury
17:14 < silentfury> i like a little slime.
17:15 < silentfury> not burnt to a crisp
17:16 < mkillebrew> chainz: was replication stopped for a while between the two then re-started?
17:16 < vinrock> you guys need to try tactical bacon
17:16 < vinrock> you'd think bacon in a can isnt good
17:16 < vinrock> BUT IT IS
17:16 < mkillebrew> master may not have what the slave wants in its log
17:16 < chainz> mkillebrew: no
17:17 < chainz> it's related to this, https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/replication-mode-change-online-concepts.html
17:17 < felda> rootsudo yeah QB Server has to start first otherwise it gets really upset and doesn't start at all
17:17 < chainz> i was thinking i might be able to force an error in which i might be able to auto skip the event
17:18 < AnimalFarmPig> the other day someone posted an image in here. It was a screenshot of a Zuckerberg facebook status about him and Sandberg killing dogs. Anyone know what I'm talking about, have a link?
17:18 < vinrock> yeah that wa sme
17:19 < kuahara> about 2 years ago, I toyed around with folder redirection.  We ran into problems with it and rather than troubleshoot, decided to avoid using it altogether.  Every once in a while, I'll be on a machine and notice I'm working with a redirected desktop and think "I thought I disabled this ages ago".  Now I have a few machines that were new out of the box 2 weeks ago and recently domain
17:19 < kuahara> joined that have redirected desktops.
17:20 < kuahara> In troubleshooting this, I notice the folder redirection policy still exists, but under scope, enforced is set to "no" and link enabled is set to "yes".
17:20 < kuahara> if I just deleted the policy altogether, am I going to mess things up?
17:21 < tsarbomba> anybody here smelling like freshly-sliced meats
17:21 < grumplestiltzkin> when you register a VMware account, there are -... I count 24  'salutations' you can choose.
17:22 < vinrock> AnimalFarmPig: https://i.imgur.com/GvYJYlX.png
17:22 < AnimalFarmPig> thanks vinrock!
17:22 < vinrock> np
17:22 < AnimalFarmPig> there's a name for this kind of image... do you know it? It's like ZuckerbergStories or something? There's a subreddit
17:22 < tsarbomba> you may need to fetch home folders from whatever server they live on and put data back in place on the local machines
17:22 < scwizard> "Going forward, we will start on moving to GraphQL and deprecate the use of controller-specific endpoints." what does this meannnnnnnnnnnnnn
17:23 < scwizard> i'm so confuse
17:23 < vinrock> i think @pixelatedboat was creating them, there's a bunch like it
17:23 < vinrock> started when he was doing his 'tour of the usa and pretend im human' campaign
17:24 < grumplestiltzkin> <3 that
17:31 < tsarbomba> the graphql icon looks a lot like a star of david when shrunk down to fit in the browser tab. does this mean that they're (((globalists)))?
17:32 < grumplestiltzkin> is vsphere and esxi interchangable terms now?
17:32 < insecurity> grumplestiltzkin: wonderful day to die in a fire.
17:32 < grumplestiltzkin> it is
17:32 < insecurity> grumplestiltzkin: wonderful day to die in a fire.
17:32 < grumplestiltzkin> I already agreed
17:32 < insecurity> grumplestiltzkin: wonderful day to die in a fire.
17:34 < grumplestiltzkin> Most people would say a grease fire - but I think a cake fire would be better
17:34 < insecurity> grumplestiltzkin: please die.
17:34 < DrGibby|> uh huh...
17:34 < tsarbomba> :O
17:35 < grumplestiltzkin> Gibbles, I thought this was a becky bot, it would have been lolsy
17:35 < DrGibby|> grumplestiltzkin: I don't use the terms interchangeably, but I could see how someone would
17:37 < grumplestiltzkin> Yeah, I'm on the vmware site, it looks like they are lumping esxi into the vsphere name now  - or just calling it 'vsphere hypervisor'
17:37 < kuahara> found the answer here:   https://4sysops.com/archives/how-to-disable-folder-redirection/
17:40 < Ahlee> grumplestiltzkin: i noticed that last time i lodged a tickt with them, they made it sound like i was crazy for saying esxi and not vsphere
17:40 < DrGibby|> I'm assuming this is for 6.5 and not the rest of their versions?
17:41 < Ahlee> do any of the major hypervisors other than vmware handle multicast worth a shit yet?
17:42 < DrGibby|> suma'bitch they did change it
17:42 < DrGibby|> wtf
17:43 < DrGibby|> surprised they didn't call it vHypervisor for vShit vCenterServer vSphere
17:43 < DrGibby|> ADD THEM v's BOYS!
17:44 < insecurity> yes
17:44 < Casteil> I think I'm pretty fucking irritable today
17:45 < felda> So it is a normal day?
17:45 < mrghostman> s/today//
17:45 <+layer-eight> Casteil meant: "I think I'm pretty fucking irritable "
17:45 < felda> ayyy
17:45 < felda> Have you considered having a wank?
17:45 < Casteil> people keep talking to me like they're experts on the subject matter and I'm like **this** close to asking them what makes them such an expert
17:46 < AnimalFarmPig> I was up late last night arguing with people on the internet. Pretty grumpy today myself.
17:46 < AnimalFarmPig> also, first day back at work after being out sick all last week :|
17:46 < Casteil> ugh, arguing on the internet is like straight up cancer
17:47 < Casteil> I try to avoid it because it's always so toxic
17:47 < tsarbomba> s/straight up cancer/playing chess with a pigeon
17:47 <+layer-eight> Casteil meant: "ugh, arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon"
17:47 < Casteil> anonymity makes people straight up shitheads
17:47 < mruszczyk> is there a web interface for the lookaside cache to make sure I uploaded my new source correctly?
17:48 < tsarbomba> don't bother with any context, i guess
17:48 < insecurity> soo i've got this client that has a globalprotect portal in microsoft IP space. how is this possible?
17:48 < mruszczyk> woops wrong channel buds
17:49 <@cryptic1> too late haxed
17:49 < insecurity> doxed
17:50 < insecurity> lol grumplestiltzkin sorry that was a weechat trigger i fucked up
17:50 < AnimalFarmPig> metaphor for how I feel about things. https://pastebin.com/qH2c6cER
17:50 < mal_will> My boss is asking why we want to encrypt email sent internally. And this is a question I never thought I'd need an answer for in healthcare. I guess my answer to "why?" is "encryption good, fire bad"
17:51 < arlion> What's the python equivalent of "curl --data"
17:51 < AnimalFarmPig> arlion: I like the `requests` library
17:52 < rootsudo> arlion requests something
17:52 < arlion> Yep, I am using the requests library.
17:52 < arlion> but I'm trying to figure out how to post an auth code.
17:52 < arlion> curl --data "host_config_key=5a8ec154832b780b9bdef1061764ae5a" http:///api/v1/job_templates/1/callback/
17:52 < AnimalFarmPig> what does the --data flag do with curl?
17:52 < arlion> is the example
17:53 < arlion> posts a payload to the server in a post request.
17:53 < AnimalFarmPig> requests.post(some_url, data = 'some data')
17:53 < arlion> I just thought of that
17:54 < tsarbomba> damn, he's taking credit for your idea already
17:54 < arlion> I was trying to use it as a auth token, but instead it's a payload... interesting.
17:54 < tsarbomba> fucking ruthless
17:54 < arlion> AnimalFarmPig: thank you.
17:54 < AnimalFarmPig> np
17:57 < Reverend> folks having issues with PythonHosted.org today?
17:57 < Reverend> can't seem to download pip modules
17:57 < Reverend> getting plenty of 503's
17:58 < Hatter> 4is anyone working on anything or just the same old boring crap
17:58 < Hatter> anything cool I mean
17:58 < sedition> im hearing the same thing from other people Reverend
17:58 < Reverend> Darn it
17:58 < Reverend> thanks sedition
18:00 < asimon> While we're talking python: Anyone have advice on how to add 3rd party libraries to an anaconda environment?
18:01 < asimon> The anaconda navigator doesn't have an option to add your own library not already available through pip
18:01 < AnimalFarmPig> I haven't used anaconda much. Can you not just `python setup.py install` something?
18:02 < Hatter> has anyone here gotten really crazy with security onion?
18:05 < grumplestiltzkin> insecurity: it happens mang.
18:08 < grumplestiltzkin> Hatter: I'm finally rebuilding my home lab environment.  going the 'all in one' route, on a dell t110 II, instead of 24 U rack.  I'm debating keeping the SG300 switch that I have now at home, or using a 3750-x (free)
18:09 < sedition> Hatter: just boring work code
18:10 < tsarbomba> today is a work day
18:10 < tsarbomba> homelabs are for your time!
18:11 < grumplestiltzkin> that's correct
18:11 < scwizard> ewwwww
18:12 < scwizard> https://status.python.org/incidents/1y1f44q6srh2
18:12 < scwizard> very unpleasant
18:14 < voice> something about dev being prod
18:15 < grumplestiltzkin> unrestrained developers do that bullshit *ALL* the time
18:16 < sedition> 'agile'
18:16 < sedition> aka 'they gave us an aws account'
18:17 < DrGibby|> well they wouldn't be developers if they didn't still need to develop
18:17 < DrGibby|> you'd think common sense and change management would be a skill they'd want to iron out first
18:18 < grumplestiltzkin> common sense would be to not use an admin account as a service account, but I've literally never met a developer IRL that didn't ask for admin credential service accounts
18:19 < DrGibby|> hence why they're still "developing." Much like teenagers they're pushing the boundaries to help them figure out life
18:20 < AnimalFarmPig> keeping track of all those different accounts is a hassle and you have to deal with permissions and shit. Much easier to just run everything with admin credentials.
18:20 < DrGibby|> unlike teenagers, however, developers never really "grow-up"
18:20 < AnimalFarmPig> it's not like anything could go wrong
18:21 < grumplestiltzkin> and all your scheduled tasks
18:21 < DomLS3> Nothing could POSSIBLY go wrong
18:21 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: I read your pythong 3 thing. I feel your pain
18:22 < scwizard> man i have no idea what to do
18:22 < scwizard> like I can't do anything that involves python
18:22  * AnimalFarmPig submits a ticket asking for remote root login to be enabled on all servers
18:22 < AnimalFarmPig> "First thing I do when logging in to a server is to elevate permissions with sudo -s. Why not just let me skip that step?"
18:22 < E-werd> why do phone number pads start with 1 at the top left, but keypads start 1 at the bottom left?
18:22 < E-werd> it's the only reason I can't be totally proficient with a keypad
18:24 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: I'm not sure why it's happening, but basically each release they're making the language worse by adding "features." I suspect that it's what happens when a language gains widespread adoption in big companies. Stupid features that added ostensibly to make things better, but you wonder what the fuck people are doing if they need this or think it's a good idea
18:24 < DrGibby|> E-werd: want the honest explanation?
18:24 < E-werd> yes
18:24 < dragonfleas> morning
18:24 < DrGibby|> basically, its because it is what it has always been
18:24 < grumplestiltzkin> E-werd: there was a reason, I rmeember seeing a few years back.
18:24 < grumplestiltzkin> found it   https://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/16666/why-do-numpads-on-keyboards-and-phones-have-reversed-layouts
18:24 < dragonfleas> .seen McDonaldsWiFi
18:24 <+layer-eight> McDonaldsWiFi spoke in #reddit-sysadmin 2 hours 16 minutes ago. Message: inc hyper-v manager
18:25 < DrGibby|> calculators had standardized using the 7 8 9 keys at the top
18:25 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: what language?
18:25 < dragonfleas> McDonaldsWiFi, you're stinky
18:25 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: Python 3
18:25 < DrGibby|> when Bell labs asked why they did that, the people making the calcs didn't know
18:25 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: what features in particular don't you like?
18:25 < DrGibby|> so they ordered it the other way
18:25 < DrGibby|> there is no reason why, really
18:25 < DrGibby|> https://web.archive.org/web/20180102203929/http://www.vcalc.net/Keyboard.htm
18:27 < scwizard> cause honestly this is the first I've heard about recent python 3 features being controversial
18:28 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: Feels like one of those "so preoccupied on if we *could* do X, nobody stopped to think if we *should*"
18:28 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: typing syntax-- if you need it, you've structured your code poorly. async-- blind alley. Cooperative multitasking went out in the 80's. Pre-emptive multitasking is easier because it abstracts yielding of control. new string formatting-- why? Now my coworkers are writing needlessly non-backwards compatible code. Thanks! dictionaries guaranteed to be ordered by key insertion-- new in 3.7. Makes it harder to replace dicts
18:28 < AnimalFarmPig> with arbitrary mapping classes. Was it too hard to just use OrderedDict?
18:29 < E-werd> meh
18:30 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: that's the thing, people seem to be eating this shit up like it's gold. I don't understand why.
18:31 < scwizard> well most people, myself included, aren't enough of a python expert to have an opinion really
18:32 < grumplestiltzkin> I think the new python piss seats are a marked improvement.
18:35 < kronis> Morning folks
18:36 < asimon> Good morning
18:40 < kronis> Kinda quiet in here
18:41 < kronis> What did you do to then, cryptic1
18:41 < kronis> Them*
18:41 < AnimalFarmPig> the beauty of Python 2 is that the core language is simple and there is an extensive standard library and a wide variety of third party packages. With Python 3, the core language is becoming more and more complex and the third party packages are fewer, because they broke backwards compatibility.
18:41 <@cryptic1> kronis, told them to stop trolling.
18:42 <@cryptic1> as you can see kronis hardly anyone has anything to useful to say
18:42 < AnimalFarmPig> which reminds me, yet another thing that's worse in Python 3 is the way that packages are imported. They fucked it up in order to solve a non-issue that was actually a feature.
18:42 < kronis> Lol
18:42 < sedition> i hope Go 2 doesnt pull a Python and fracture the community
18:42 < vinrock> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da6kct7V4AEO0Kz.jpg
18:42 < vinrock> guys
18:42 < sedition> or a Perl 6
18:42 < vinrock> i think it's time we brought back goat sacks
18:42 < rootsudo> I need to just
18:42 < rootsudo> live on a beach
18:43 < rootsudo> with a month ful of food, books, acid and a nice girl
18:43 < vinrock> where you from? JAMAICA MON what part?  BY DA BEACH BOYEEEEEE
18:43 < sedition> and a really big water bottle so you dont dehydrate while frying on the beach
18:43 < sedition> in more ways than one
18:43 < vinrock> idk bout acid
18:43 < kronis> So I have a question then. I work in an Ops/NOC type of role where we are basically the dumping ground for everyone. Need a ticket for a system issue? Call us. You fucked something up, call us. No idea who handles this website? Call us.
18:43 < vinrock> id think beach + acid = drowning
18:44 < rootsudo> vinrock wrong
18:44 < vinrock> "omg i can totally breathe salt water"
18:44 < rootsudo> kronis congrats you're replacable
18:44 < rootsudo> vinrock that's not how acid works
18:44 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
18:44 < vinrock> ive done enough acid to know how it works
18:44 < rootsudo> I never thought water was breathable
18:44 < vinrock> you veer drop 9 tabs at once
18:44 < rootsudo> though I would say if you do it alone vs with friends it's a different experience
18:44 < vinrock> thats the last time i did it
18:44 < vinrock> and yeah i could see myself trying to breathe water
18:44 < kronis> So we obviously get fucking swamped with a bunch of BS noise constantly. However upper management is really pushing hard on us having to monitor everything to the point where a two minute delay between a dashboard showing an issue and us responding is too high.
18:45 < sedition> 120sec sla is extreme
18:45 < sedition> lol
18:45 < kronis> Yes I know rootsudo, I'm working on changing that.
18:45  * Ottomite is ready to shoot his desktop. 
18:45 < vinrock> is that what life in a noc is like
18:45 < Ottomite> Brand new mobo is DOA
18:45 < vinrock> just staring at monitors
18:46 < Ottomite> any one know how microcenter handles DOA equipment? can i return it to them or do i have to RMA it?
18:47 < AnimalFarmPig> the band "The Happy Mondays" managed to kick heroin by hanging out in Barbados where there wasn't any
18:47 < AnimalFarmPig> turned out Barbados was full of crack at the time, and they got addicted to crack
18:47 < vinrock> that sounds like a good plan
18:47 < vinrock> oh jesus ok maybe not
18:47 < AnimalFarmPig> Ottomite: if you're within the return window, you can just return it
18:48 < AnimalFarmPig> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Please!
18:48 < Ottomite> i am. I guess thats what ill do. Just annoyed as hell
18:49 < Gencade> is it friday
18:49 < Ottomite> sadly not yet
18:49 < Gencade> damn
18:52 < grumplestiltzkin> .yt left rights Im on crack
18:52 <+layer-eight> YouTube The Left Rights - "I'M ON CRACK" Music Video - https://youtu.be/0GLoHifu6aM
18:56 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ this is amazing
18:57 < grumplestiltzkin> the video?  Yeah, possibly the best song and video ever maed
19:00 < asimon> Nah
19:00 < asimon> .yt Don't be slappin my penis kollektivet
19:00 <+layer-eight> YouTube Kollektivet: Music video - Don't be slappin' my penis - https://youtu.be/6hb8FeKfRXM
19:02 <+TuxedoJack> There's something morally satisfying about shutdown -r -t 0 -f when run on a user's machine... that they swear they've rebooted... when net statistics server tells you differently
19:02 <+TuxedoJack> "I'm sorry, what was that? You've rebooted? Well, then, surely this command won't hurt - oh, you had a morning's worth of work open that you didn't save? But you said you'd rebooted!"
19:03 <+giant_it_burrit> muahahahahaha
19:04 < Church-> Lol
19:04 < Church-> Sup TuxedoJack giant_it_burrit
19:04 < Church-> I've always wondered, is that supposed to be burrito?
19:05 < felda> TuxedoJack "Oh no your computer is going to crash in 30 seconds better save your work"
19:05 < kronis> Gencade: how bout them Cowboys
19:05 < vinrock> bur-eet
19:05 < kronis> gg Dez
19:05 <+TuxedoJack> felda: you're generous, you wait 30 seconds
19:05 <+TuxedoJack> I use -t 0
19:06 < felda> well yeah I don't want the message to appear
19:06 < felda> so I tell them to hurry
19:06 < Gencade> hey stranger kronis
19:06 < Gencade> how bout dez..
19:06 < Gencade> :(
19:06 < felda> then once everything is closed run the command lol
19:08 < kronis> vinrock: I do a lot of project work on the side, to be fair. But yeah we're in an Ops environment.
19:08 < gnupluslinux> M A D A R A I about to get fucked
19:09 < kronis> So I'm trying to figure out ways to get out team out of the drudge mindset of keeping an inbox queue clear, alert windows clear, etc. and placing realtime monitoring at the top of our priority list.
19:09 <+giant_it_burrit> Church-: was supposed to but character limit
19:09 <+TuxedoJack> felda: you have a message pop up? I just use Labtech's remote command prompt or psexec it from their DC
19:09 < kronis> Our team*
19:09 < Church-> Ah, lol
19:09 <+giant_it_burrit> TuxedoJack: i do 3 seconds says bye felicia
19:10 < felda> TuxedoJack I use DesktopCentral and I make the message say WINDOWS UPDATE and get away with it
19:10 < felda> yall know what time it is
19:10 < felda>  /topic Devilish things you do to your users
19:10 < kronis> In their opinion or my opinion?
19:10 < felda> I tell my users they can put songs in their My Music folder
19:11 < felda> and then I don't ever back it up
19:11 < felda> mwahahahahahaha
19:11 < scwizard> man gitlab will be really awesome in like
19:11 < scwizard> 2021 or something
19:11 < kronis> Gitlab 2021
19:11 < ihre> i've just started using the pipeline tools w/ kube and its pretty great already :P
19:12 < scwizard> right now certain things like
19:12 < scwizard> you can only do through the api
19:12 < kronis> Giiiiitlaaaaab underneath the for-mattttt.
19:12 < scwizard> and there isn't an officially supported api wrapper
19:12 < scwizard> and they haven't moved to graphql yet
19:12 < Church-> giant_it_burrit: And how many people there have gotten pissed off at you lol?
19:12 < scwizard> and that combo is aids
19:12 < Church-> Course. I just do shutdown -r now. So...
19:13 < sideup66> Felda.io
19:13 < sideup66> Best site ever
19:13 <+giant_it_burrit> Church-: at least half but meh. not trying hard enough
19:13 < Church-> Lol
19:13 < kronis> Hey, it's updated!
19:14 <+TuxedoJack> You know, I really wish I hadn't logged in to find IMVU loaded on a very decidedly male user's desktop with saved creds of "CuteTeenGirlJessica"
19:14 < ihre> graphql is a dsl to talk to the api .. ?
19:14 <+TuxedoJack> Because that means I'm going to have to install keyloggers on his machine now
19:14 < SpookyCrisp> TuxedoJack, Oh shit. LOL.
19:15 < alazare619> felda's web developement skills have really matured
19:15 < SpookyCrisp> I absolutely love felda.io.
19:15 < alazare619> id almost say felda.io is ready to be public framework quality
19:15 < vinrock> tuxedojack: dont touch that keyboard
19:17 < kronis> I wouldn't get involved without upper mgmt
19:18 <+TuxedoJack> Already CC'd them with screenshots
19:18 < grumplestiltzkin> you mean the felda.io cloud offering?
19:18 <+TuxedoJack> Even worse, this is someone who can write scripts for CIIs
19:19 < SpookyCrisp> felda, have you considered a Felda as a Service solution?
19:20 < kronis> Cloud hosted pfsense magic?
19:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> magic is redunant here
19:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> its like saying hosted magic magic
19:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> pfsense is already M A G I C
19:28 < admiralspark> sideup66: it's blocked for me, what is it?
19:28 < felda> Did you guys see the Large Memory Pages bug?
19:28 < felda> https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8cn9ef/7zip_exposes_a_bug_in_windowss_large_memory_pages/
19:29 < admiralspark> oh, it's felda's site
19:29 < admiralspark> oh snap that's a good bug
19:30 < felda> Wowee it can crash your system entirely or grab you random pages
19:30 < felda> neat
19:30 < admiralspark> memory corruption is always fun
19:31 < admiralspark> I like how it's directly accessible on W10 but W7 needs to run as admin
19:31 < sideup66> Woo
19:35 < abakedapplepie> is anyone good with javascript here
19:39 < DomLS3> abakedapplepie: what you trying to do
19:40 < abakedapplepie> i got an answer it just wasnt what i was looking for
19:40 < abakedapplepie> i am doing something else wrong somewhere i think
19:40 < abakedapplepie> i hate javascript
19:42 < corn266> rhel 7.4 updated to 7.5 but didn't rebuild the dracut img fml
19:42 < admiralspark> corn266: does it have hooks to do that?
19:42 < corn266> idk?
19:42 <+TuxedoJack> "Causes $USER_WITH_IMVU_INSTALLED cares about: Children"
19:42 <+TuxedoJack> OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE
19:42 < admiralspark> I thought it was a "when you upgrade to RHEL7.5, you need to do this by hand"
19:43 < corn266> I didn't even know it updated
19:43 < kronis> Lmfao TuxedoJack
19:43 < admiralspark> corn266: ....you didn't initiate the update?
19:43 < corn266> booted up the machine today and grub asked if 7.4 or 7.5 and neither work
19:43 < kronis> Will his job be vacant soon? I'm still looking.
19:43 < admiralspark> oh
19:43 < admiralspark> wow, that's weird
19:43 <+TuxedoJack> kronis: he's a doctor at a pain management clinic, so unless you can do that, not bloody likelty
19:43 < corn266> I ran a yum update the other day, but I didn't know it'd update the version
19:44 < kronis> Fake it till I make it, TuxedoJack?
19:44 < Heresiarch> corn266: I think that's a known bug. Lemme see...
19:45 <+TuxedoJack> I'm just hoping he doesn't notice me zipping up all his IMVU logs before I install the keylogger
19:45 <+TuxedoJack> He fucking left it in the Chrome downloads tab, too
19:45 <+TuxedoJack> 26 March at 2022 CST
19:45 < dragonfleas> Should I move our website that's on IIS right now to an apache webserver?
19:47 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: ...why would you want to?
19:47 < dragonfleas> because fuck windows webservers :/
19:47  * kronis raises his pint. 
19:47 < Heresiarch> that's not really an answer...
19:48 < dragonfleas> resources to be completely honest
19:48 < dragonfleas> right now
19:48 < voice> nah, thats a good enough answer Heresiarch
19:48 < dragonfleas> our website is hosted on a standalone server with windows, using too much resources
19:48 < dragonfleas> i'd like to virtualize it, and have it on a low perf VM
19:48 < voice> I've done enough reboots of Windows webservers to resolve random issues
19:48 < Heresiarch> voice: it's a good enough answer for noobs and linux hipsters.
19:48 < SpookyCrisp> TuxedoJack, He's had it on there for a couple weeks then.
19:49 < dragonfleas> i have like no linux experience, it could be a cool project to migrate it over and help me learn a little bit more about linux
19:49 <+TuxedoJack> SpookyCrisp: WinRAR is taking for-fucking-ever to zip up all the files
19:49 < Heresiarch> in dragonfleas case, he can p2v/VM the server. The problem isn't IIS, it's the existing architecture.
19:49 <+TuxedoJack> So I'm betting he's been BUSY
19:49 < SpookyCrisp> TuxedoJack, Oh shit.
19:49 <+TuxedoJack> Stalling him by having him test a few things on his scanner until it's done
19:49 < SpookyCrisp> I'm feeling a TFTS story coming.Lol.
19:50 < dragonfleas> Heresiarch, yeah but windows is heavier regardless of if it's virtual or not
19:50 <+TuxedoJack> I think he sees the icon in the taskbar, but I can't risk it not finishing
19:50 < voice> dragonfleas, I will say this, if you're concerned about resources, Apache isn't going to help
19:50 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: that's true. But Apache is pretty fat on its own.
19:50 <+TuxedoJack> FINALLY. FInished
19:51 < SpookyCrisp> TuxedoJack, What's he gonna do? Uninstall IMVU? You still have the logs.
19:51 < voice> you'd be better off figuring out nginx
19:51 < kronis> TuxedoJack giving you the play by play
19:51 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: in terms of resources, you're talking the difference between MS Office, and LibreOffice.
19:51 < SpookyCrisp> kronis, The hero we need.
19:51 < SpookyCrisp> So kronis, how bout dem Boyz?
19:51 <+TuxedoJack> SpookyCrisp: Dunno
19:51  * kronis sheds a single tear. 
19:51 < SpookyCrisp> Dez gone
19:52 < SpookyCrisp> kronis, Rams should fuck it up this year.
19:52 < SpookyCrisp> Got a strong team now
19:52 <+TuxedoJack> Jesus fuck, the RAR file is 1.2GB
19:52 < kronis> We will see, lol
19:52 <+TuxedoJack> WHat the fuck has he been DOING
19:52 < Heresiarch> corn266: I know I've heard of a similar issue with rhel 7.4. Check with linuxdood when he gets back on - he was affected by it.
19:52 < kronis> Holy shit, TuxedoJack
19:52 < kronis> Just text logs?
19:52 <+TuxedoJack> No idea
19:52 < corn266> will do, thanks Heresiarch
19:52 <+TuxedoJack> Aw god DAMMIT
19:53 <+TuxedoJack> He's on fucking 100Mb/s
19:53 <+TuxedoJack> I thought I put in gigabit switches there
19:53 < kronis> RIP
19:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> self rekt
19:53 < syere> TuxedoJack: it's not your day today is it
19:53 <+TuxedoJack> Get the RAR, then the raw files
19:53 <+TuxedoJack> syere: I already had to deal with fucking TelMex this morning, so no
19:53 < kronis> All good TFTS stories have to have a slight self rekt in em
19:54 < syere> :-/
19:54 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: if your intent is to learn linux, then spin up a VPS. Dual-boot or VM on your local desktop. Trying to learn linux, and/or any webserver while you're trying to move an existing app is a recipe for pain. And getting yelled at.
19:54 <+TuxedoJack> Goddamn shit-ass fucking TelMex and worse-than-CenturyLink PPPoE dickfuck service
19:54 < kronis> TelMex lol
19:54 <+TuxedoJack> No fucking bridge mode at all
19:54 < kronis> Never heard of them
19:54 < BGL> ppoe is the future yo
19:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> Did you order it from teh dollar store?
19:55 <+TuxedoJack> Everything's PPPoE to the fucking gateway device
19:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> P-P-Power over Ethernet
19:55 < SpookyCrisp> kronis, at first I thought he said TexMex
19:55 < kronis> Who is TelMex? Telephone Mexico?
19:56 < kronis> I read it as TexMex at first
19:56 <+TuxedoJack> TelMex is a Mexican ISP
19:56 <+TuxedoJack> One of my clients has a satellite office out there
19:57 <+TuxedoJack> With their main one in San Antonio
19:57 < kronis> Yikes
19:57 < dragonfleas> Heresiarch, so you're not telling me NOT to do it
19:57 < kronis> Just go with Comcast man
19:57 < kronis> I mean sure, you'll have to reboot the modem every week
19:57 < kronis> But it'll work I guess.
19:57 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: I'm telling you that you're going to take a (justified) beating if you do it *that way*.
19:58 <+TuxedoJack> kronis: not an option across the border. They have Spectrum on the US side, though, so the torment is shared
19:59 < voice> expanding on Heresiarch's thing, I would just spinup a vm and setup something like a wiki or cacti on it and try making it work with apache/nginx if you want to learn about linux and webapps
19:59 < kronis> We ended up using a third party company to manage our dmvpn stuff.
19:59 < Heresiarch> voice: ++
19:59 < kronis> Verizon/ATT for primary, but I don't think anyone wanted to actually deal with Comcast/Spectrum.
20:00 < kronis> So I just tell the third party to handle the circuit and they do it.
20:00 < dragonfleas> what's cacti voice
20:00 < kronis> It's the plural form of cactus.
20:01 < voice> a web interface for rrdtool, usually polls data over snmp
20:01 < Alternity> woot, just got work to buy me a standing desk
20:01 < corn266> Alternity: I'll give it 2 weeks before you spend the majority of time sitting
20:02 < voice> dragonfleas, https://www.cacti.net/
20:02 < kronis> I still use my standing desk often enough.
20:03 < Alternity> i stood for 8 hrs a day all through college
20:03 < dragonfleas> kronis, you beautiful bastard
20:03 < Alternity> hopefully i'll be able to maintain it
20:03 < tsarbomba> how is telmex going to serve san antonio when the big beautiful wall goes up?
20:03 < Heresiarch> tsarbomba: long fiber cables thrown over the wall. Duh.
20:03 < dragonfleas> is mint a good linux OS for at home use?
20:04 < kronis> dragonfleas: my job situation is still open to changing :D
20:04 < voice> its good enough for home use but good enough is subjective
20:04 < kronis> Mint is a good home OS, but everyone knows that Arch is king.
20:04 < tsarbomba> kronis, your standing desk will probably kill you: https://www.gq.com/story/standing-death-study
20:04 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: mint's a good daily driver, but it isn't all that helpful if you're trying to learn - it's a "Just Works" distro.
20:04 < voice> theres always the rpm/deb debate
20:04 < tsarbomba> dragonfleas you are not even allowed to TALK about mint until you successfully install slackwhere somewhere
20:05 < tsarbomba> lol there is no rpm/deb debate
20:05 < tsarbomba> rpm is hot fucking garbage
20:05 < mkillebrew> you're garbage
20:05 < tsarbomba> you're a towel
20:06 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, you are very pushy about slackware
20:06 < mkillebrew> yum has dependency resolution down pretty well
20:06 < voice> if you're looking to learn linux for work, centos is usually a good choice
20:06 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: honestly, if you're looking to learn, spin up CentOS, or yes, slackware.
20:06 < tsarbomba> wasn't it your idea, dragonfleas?
20:06 < tsarbomba> i'm just here to keep you on your path
20:06 < voice> suse if you're feeling adventurous
20:06 < tsarbomba> i mean, at a minimum, do a gentoo stage 1 install
20:06 < tsarbomba> something to learn
20:06 < mkillebrew> gentoo is for people that hate themselvs and computers
20:07 < sedition> centos, debian, Amazon Linux
20:07 < sedition> i dont see much else in production
20:07 < voice> I fucking hate suse but its somehow popular in enterprise
20:07 < sedition> some ubuntu server i guess
20:07 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, yes, should i use slackware 64-14.2?
20:07 < sedition> i've not seen suse in the enterprise
20:07 < Heresiarch> suse is a thing over in EU. Not much anywhere else.
20:07 < tsarbomba> ubuntu server shows up in dev because it's comically easy to stand up
20:07 < voice> sedition, I work in a area that has a high amount of SAP servers
20:07 < tsarbomba> i don't see suse here much
20:07 < voice> SAP and SuSE seem to love each other
20:08 < mkillebrew> We used OEL, Solaris, and SuSE at Oracle
20:08 < kronis> Just go Arch and stop wasting time.
20:08 < mkillebrew> pacman is a pain in the ass
20:08 < tsarbomba> dragonfleas, yeah, slackware 14.2 will get you the most help
20:08 < mkillebrew> apt and yum suck the least
20:09 < Heresiarch> Also, ignore anyone who advocates Arch. They still haven't gotten the "ooh, shiny!" mentality out of their heads.
20:09 < mkillebrew> I don't really understand the appeal of Arch
20:09 < tsarbomba> i don't mind arch.
20:10 < Heresiarch> mkillebrew: "OMG I CAN RUN ALPHA-QUALITY CODE THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN MERGED TO GITHUB! YOLOOOOOOOOO!"
20:10 < tsarbomba> it's probably not even in the top 3 of distros i'd choose unless given a specific task. like gentoo for speeding up ancient hardware.
20:10 < tsarbomba> but it works
20:10 < mkillebrew> You can run that in any distribution though
20:10 < tsarbomba> arch still seems to skip over a lot of the things that would teach a novice linux user
20:10 < tsarbomba> as far as install process
20:11 < mkillebrew> AUR is I guess handy for some things
20:11 < dragonfleas> i'm installing slackware 14.2 right no
20:11 < dragonfleas> now
20:11 < dragonfleas> wish me luck
20:11 < tsarbomba> what the fuck. why are my devs sending me links of customer data in google sheets.
20:12 < tsarbomba> enjoy, dragonfleas
20:12 < dragonfleas> gentoo speeds up ancient hardware?
20:12 < mkillebrew> no
20:12 < tsarbomba> dragonfleas, it's highly configurable. if you know what you're doing you can build a streamlined system that will run much faster than most other distros
20:12 < mkillebrew> all dists are highly configurable
20:13 < tsarbomba> yeah good luck matching a gentoo stage 1 install without spending 4x the amount of time
20:13 < mkillebrew> and if you have old hardware and want to rid yourself some of the bloat, put a BSD on it.
20:13 < tsarbomba> lol. nah. i'd rather use my hardware than just be proud of myself.
20:13 < sedition> now that im old i just install debian on things
20:14 < sedition> can get away with Testing on the desktop. Stable for server
20:14 < sedition> i do a lot of work with Amazon Linux now that we're AWS-heavy i guess
20:14 < mkillebrew> and you can build world on BSD with your idiot compiler options just like the gentoo freaks do all the time
20:14 < kronis> I'm kind of nervous
20:14 < mkillebrew> spend a couple days doing that to save a few seconds of CPU time in the coming months
20:14 < kronis> One of my technology teachers was an M Killebrew
20:15 < tsarbomba> my condolences
20:15  * kronis squints
20:15 < mkillebrew> not me, I wouldn't teach, I'm far too fond of money.
20:22 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: you lurking bby
20:23 < alazare619> always
20:26 < AnimalFarmPig> One day if I were independently wealthy I would love to teach a high school computer science class. I think it would be fun.
20:26 < AnimalFarmPig> but only if I had enough money to not need the job
20:30 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, my fucking god this is painful
20:31 < dragonfleas> just the disk partitioning is a pain
20:31 < mkillebrew> ...
20:33 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: is good for you. Builds character (and learning about how linux does things).
20:33 < syere> dragonfleas. Keep in mind, you're using todays slack. Which has a nicer install than it did back in the early 2000's.... comparatively it's a cake walk
20:34 < dragonfleas> Heresiarch, right now i'm setting up the filesystem on the partition i created lol
20:34 < sedition> i wouldnt choose slack to learn with
20:34 < sedition> just my 2c
20:34 < sedition> lol
20:34 < sedition> like, at all.
20:34 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: good. Keep going.
20:34 < syere> dragonfleas: don't forget a swap partition!
20:35 < dragonfleas> i added a swap partition
20:35 < dragonfleas> what prompting mode should i use
20:35 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: full/newbie
20:36 < dragonfleas> oh
20:36 < dragonfleas> i guess i didn't make a swap partition
20:36 < dragonfleas> fuck
20:37 < ihre> dragonfleas: install https://qntm.org/suicide asap to make it a really entertaining experience
20:38 < Heresiarch> jesus. Hardcore mode.
20:38 < ihre> https://github.com/wikitopian/hardmode :^)
20:38 < dragonfleas> ummm
20:38 < dragonfleas> i guess i didn't install correctly
20:38 < dragonfleas> because
20:38 < dragonfleas> it failed
20:39 < Heresiarch> ihre: ...so it's like using vi on a non-linux system.
20:40 < ihre> Heresiarch: i wouldnt know, i dont think i've ever tried vi on a non-*nix system
20:40 < ihre> just forces you to use motions, which isnt bad imo
20:40 < dragonfleas> i figured out what i did wrong
20:40 < dragonfleas> i'm in for hell aren't i
20:41 < Heresiarch> ihre: eh. Not quite right - non-unix would be only using hjkl for movement (rather than arrows/pgup/pgdn).
20:41 < ihre> just the first couple of installations dragonfleas
20:41 < dragonfleas> marioDB
20:41 < dragonfleas> heLp
20:41 < dragonfleas> naMe
20:41 < dragonfleas> the typos
20:42 < ihre> tab all the things dragonfleas
20:42 < corn266> s/marioDB/hannahMontanaOS
20:42 <+layer-eight> dragonfleas meant: "hannahMontanaOS"
20:42 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: ...yes. You are in for hell. And you'll know a lot about linux when you're through it.
20:44 < dragonfleas> my next step is LFS
20:45 < DrGibby|> I run HML in Prod
20:45 < hdb2> just curious - gsuite users, when you log into https://admin.google.com are you being forwarded to a URL that says SuspendedSubscription?  I've verified with Google that our account is in good standing, domain is active, etc.  they have no idea what's going on.  here's the weird thing:  we can paste the correct panel page into the browser and access the admin console just fine ?!?!?
20:46 < ihre> HML is just a deb or even ubuntu fork right?
20:46 < DrGibby|> yeah
20:46 < DrGibby|> ubuntu iirc
20:47 < dragonfleas> what the fuck is seamoney
20:47 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: seamonkey?
20:47 < AnimalFarmPig> seamonkey, it's an email client, iirc
20:47 < DrGibby|> Hannah Montana Linux is a unix-like Linux Operating System based on Kubuntu.
20:47 < DrGibby|> The Package Manager is Debian apt.
20:47 < DrGibby|> The GUI is KDE 4.2 with Hannah Montana themes
20:48 < ihre> cowrie?
20:48 < AnimalFarmPig> kind of like icedove
20:48 < kronis> I just found documentation for a tape backup solution we haven't used in 13 years
20:48 < kronis> What the fuck
20:48 < dragonfleas> everyone install hannah montana linux right now
20:48 < ihre> nah
20:48 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: done
20:48 < admiralspark> pass
20:48 < int0x1C8> can't handle all the cyrus
20:48 < DrGibby|> real admins run HML
20:49 < ihre> i'll stick to non-apt (read: yum) if possible ;p
20:50 < DrGibby|> psh
20:50 < DrGibby|> lame
20:51 < kronis> I have 700+ articles to migrate and I'm fairly sure I am about to cry on half of these.
20:51 < kronis> Felda, grant me strength.
20:51 < int0x1C8> get a bottle ready kronis
20:52 < dragonfleas> should i use tab window manager
20:52 < dragonfleas> or xfce
20:52 < kronis> The worst part is I cannot figure out how to mass export from phpkb 7.5
20:52 < ihre> xfce
20:52 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: use awesome
20:52 < kronis> And I can't touch the backbones of the POS.
20:52 < AnimalFarmPig> man, I was sick all last week, still feel like crap today
20:52 < dragonfleas> awesome isn't on slackware lmao
20:52 < AnimalFarmPig> want to go home and take a nap
20:52 < DrGibby|> dragonfleas: install from sause
20:53 < ihre> awesome/(tiling wms) might feel like shooting yourself in the foot
20:53 < ihre> atleast xfce has point n click, and you could always switch WM later
20:53 < kronis> Although if I am going to have to update 80% of these articles, I guess a mass export is pointless.
20:53 < AnimalFarmPig> why not use something interesting? windowmaker
20:53 < ihre> just tmux then.
20:53 < DrGibby|> or better yet, just install windows
20:53 < DrGibby|> if you want a window manager
20:53 < AnimalFarmPig> or afterstep
20:53 < AnimalFarmPig> or E16
20:54 < Heresiarch> or CDE
20:54 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ great idea
20:54 < ihre> awesome is .. a .. window manager DrGibby| :p
20:54 < ihre> but not a DE like gde/kde
20:54 < DrGibby|> ihre: thatsthejoke.jpg
20:54 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: ...you're sadistic.
20:54 < Church-> dragonfleas: i3
20:54 < sedition> i used awesome for years and switched to i3
20:54 < sedition> love em both
20:55 < ihre> DrGibby|: https://i.imgur.com/poLdRoq.png
20:55 < DrGibby|> awesome is awesome
20:55 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: I've used all of the above... so, maybe masochist as well
20:55 < ihre> i3+
20:55 < ihre> +++
20:55 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: ...same. Except for afterstep.
20:55 < ihre> i didnt really like awesome because of the predefined layouts
20:55 < ihre> switched back to i3 after a couple of days
20:56 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: it's been at least a decade. When I was new to linux, I tried all the WM's. Usually just long enough to go "yeah.... nothx"
20:56 < dragonfleas> oh my god
20:56 < dragonfleas> xfce is too minimal
20:56 < dragonfleas> i need lxde
20:56 < dragonfleas> installing lxde right now
20:57 < ihre> 0_o xfce too minimal ? :\
20:57 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: same, though I loved enlightenment for a while.
20:57 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, E16 was alright, and when E17 came out, it was the hot shit
20:57 < dragonfleas> xfce is just terminal with mouse control
20:57 < AnimalFarmPig> I remember animated backgrounds with flames and stuff!
20:57 < Heresiarch> XD
20:57 < ihre> https://spins.fedoraproject.org/static/images/screenshots/screenshot-xfce.jpg ?
20:57 < alazare619> tuxedojack you ended up on a meme page https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Bzkqiv0i/Screenshot_20180416-135717.png
20:58 < corn266> RHEL 7.5 instead of shutting down/rebooting when software initiated shutdown occurs, the caps lock LED just flashes
20:58 < tsarbomba> IT'S A BOMB! RUN!!
20:59 < AnimalFarmPig> tsarbomba: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H1FEkE8zL._SY200_QL15_.jpg
20:59 < Jekotia> What's a good terminal-only Linux live CD for data recovery and disk operations? Preferably with SSHD pre-configured so that I don't have to make space for another monitor, mouse & keyboard
21:00 < corn266> what are you talking about tsarbomba it's a computer not a bo-
21:00 < admiralspark> hahahahaaha
21:00 < Jekotia> Wait, nvm. I need VirtualBox installed as well. Fuck me.
21:00 < admiralspark> Jekotia: so......Ubuntu?
21:01 < admiralspark> What's your use case?
21:01 < ihre> a live cd with virtualbox .. ?
21:01 < ihre> ^
21:01 < ihre> what admiralspark said :P
21:01 < admiralspark> :P
21:01 < Jekotia> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows
21:01 < int0x1C8> Kali has pretty much every tool that exists, along with some that don't
21:01 < Jekotia> Need to migrate someones XP system disk to virtual because the PC died and they have tens of mthousands of dollars of licenced software
21:02 < admiralspark> wait
21:02 < dragonfleas> o cool
21:02 < admiralspark> you're trying to P-to-V windows to a virtualbox host??
21:02 < Jekotia> admiralspark: Yep.
21:02 < dragonfleas> i connected to the irc from slack
21:02 < admiralspark> I assume vmware is out of the question?
21:02 < int0x1C8> hnnnngh
21:02 < tsarbomba> ...why?
21:02 < admiralspark> their drivers would make it easy
21:02 < Jekotia> Going to ditch VB eventually, once we've sorted out the software licences and installed everything on the host WIndows 10 machine
21:02 < admiralspark> tsarbomba: he said thousands in licensed software
21:03 < Jekotia> But that's a several-week nightmare
21:03 < ihre> i'd dd(rescue) the disk first, before attempting anything like that w/ virtualbox from a live cd
21:04 < admiralspark> yep, I'd Acronis that bitch first Jekotia. Then maybe look into Disk2VHD?
21:04 < admiralspark> problem is, your vendors very likely won't support you hacking a p2v with an XP install
21:04 < Jekotia> ihre: Do you mean convert it into an image?
21:05 < admiralspark> yes, to virtualbox
21:05 < ihre> and if you REALLY want to go the live cd route, dont, and try a usb 3 bootable usb thumb drive :P
21:05 < admiralspark> ^^
21:05 < Jekotia> admiralspark: Already has Acronis backups. It was part of the users weekly routine
21:05 < admiralspark> I'm talking about an Acronis disk-level mirror job
21:05 < admiralspark> not an acronis software backup client installed on the machine
21:06 < admiralspark> that way if SHTF you can just....swap harddrives
21:06 < Jekotia> I'm currently using a hardware drive copier to make a duplicate of the drive. That's what I'll be working with, to ensure the original doesn't get fucked
21:06 < dragonfleas> what package manager does slack use
21:06 < dragonfleas> no yum
21:06 < dragonfleas> no apt-get
21:06 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: tgz
21:06 < Jekotia> pact?
21:06 < ihre> Jekotia: yes, dd(rescue) the disk to an image file so you have a raw copy of the disk, copy and stash that, then try manipulating the copy
21:06 < dragonfleas> wtf is tgz
21:07 < Jekotia> dragonfleas: Tar with gzip
21:07 < ihre> the old brother of dbz
21:07 < dragonfleas> tgz --help?
21:07 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: http://www.slackware.com/config/packages.php
21:08 < Jekotia> dragonfleas: I see you chose the "I hate myself" route
21:08 < dragonfleas> Jekotia, yes
21:08 < Heresiarch> s/I hate myself/I'm gonna figure this out/
21:08 <+layer-eight> Jekotia meant: "dragonfleas: I see you chose the "I'm gonna figure this out" route"
21:09 < Jekotia> Heresiarch: The two are not mutually exclusive
21:09 < Heresiarch> fair point.
21:09 < tsarbomba> jekotia is already stuck in an untenable position
21:09 < dragonfleas> i'm installing slackpkg to see if it's decent
21:09 < tsarbomba> he allowed users to dictate that they can keep critical data on workstations
21:09 < tsarbomba> that's losing the war before the first shot is fired
21:10 < Jekotia> tsarbomba: I didn't. It was like this when I got here
21:10 < tsarbomba> then your predecessor hates you and is probably raping your family as we speak
21:10 < Jekotia> And every time I try and fix it I get told to work on other shit <_<
21:10 < tsarbomba> hey. is it friday yet?
21:10 < vinrock> yup
21:11 <@cryptic1> no and stop it tsarbomba
21:12 <@cryptic1> paging dbcc
21:13 < dragonfleas> half these mirrors for slackpkg are broken
21:13 < dragonfleas> jesus fucking christ
21:13 < dragonfleas> this distro is a shitshow
21:13 < AnimalFarmPig> Jekotia: if you've got a hard copy of the disk, why do you need virtualbox on a live cd? Just hook it up to a workstation you own, load up virtualbox, and point it at the disk as a raw block device
21:14 < sedition> lol
21:14 < sedition> i've never seen slackware in production
21:14 < abakedapplepie> i have bent confluence over and made it submit to my will
21:14 < abakedapplepie> feelsgoodman
21:15 < abakedapplepie> fuck atlassian and their bullshit ways
21:15 < abakedapplepie> the workarounds ive had to implement lately are stupid
21:15 < AnimalFarmPig> dragonfleas: should have gone with a more professional distro-- like netbsd
21:15 < AnimalFarmPig> s/distro/OS
21:15 <+layer-eight> AnimalFarmPig meant: "dragonfleas: should have gone with a more professional OS-- like netbsd"
21:15 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: trollface.jpg
21:16 < dragonfleas> lol
21:16 < AnimalFarmPig> the guy I know who unironically like Slackware also likes netbsd
21:16 < br34k> trollface.jpg.exe
21:16 < grumplestiltzkin> s/netbsd/hannah montana templos
21:16 <+layer-eight> AnimalFarmPig meant: "the guy I know who unironically like Slackware also likes hannah montana templos"
21:16 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, wait, yall know _tim
21:16 < dragonfleas> knowyourmeme.com.exe
21:16 < grumplestiltzkin> that wasnt supposed to go there
21:16 < AnimalFarmPig> _tim is a dirty netbsd user
21:16 < Heresiarch> I liked Slackware back in the day. And I still think it's the best distro to learn on.
21:16 < br34k> how does slackware compare to arch nowadays?
21:17 < kepler> RIP Hillary Duff
21:18 < Jekotia> AnimalFarmPig: Sadly the chassis drive bays are at capacity. I'd have to pull a CPU sled to fit more drives (not that there's any mounting options if I do so)
21:24 <+giant_it_burrit> kepler: ?
21:25 < Church-> Yeah hell you're talking about?
21:27 < gnupluslinux> someone plz2b unfuck thsi network
21:28 < SynMonger> get rid of dns, problem solved. You're welcome.
21:28 < gnupluslinux> i wish
21:28 < xamithan> We can give it network condoms
21:28 < gnupluslinux> something something something cant reach gateway
21:29 < xamithan> Stick a few firewalls between each printer
21:30 < SynMonger> I was banging my head against the wall awhile back over a firewall not doing what I wanted. Completely forgot to add rules for the traffic
21:30 < xamithan> It only does what you tell it to
21:31 < xamithan> And the developer tells it to
21:34 < grumplestiltzkin> ohh, a challenger appears.   https://real.video/    for all the people getting demonetized by youtube/goog
21:34 < gnupluslinux> lets get phyiscal
21:36 <+NinjaStyle> grumplestiltzkin: looks like shit
21:36 < SynMonger> some of the gun channels are putting stuff up on full30.com now
21:37 < grumplestiltzkin> apparantly  https://steemit.com/  is another one
21:37 < gnupluslinux> grumplestiltzkin, those "features" are throwing up all kinds of bullshit flags in my mind
21:37 < grumplestiltzkin> what features?
21:37 < gnupluslinux> All content accounts reviewed before activation, creating a high-quality video community.
21:38 < gnupluslinux> Highly redundant, scalable video infrastructure easily handles over 1 billion video views per month.
21:38 < gnupluslinux> for a small hobby project but those two alone are gonna be an absolute bitch to implement without lots of $$$
21:38 < grumplestiltzkin> oh, nice, hickok45 is on full30
21:38 < int0x1C8> gun channels have been pushing to full30 for a while now, before all the recent shit
21:39 < int0x1C8> MAC especially
21:39 < grumplestiltzkin> MAC just scrolled past on the banner
21:42 < int0x1C8> IV8888 too I think
21:42 < int0x1C8> I haven't actually been watching any of those channels for a while now, dunno why
21:45 < Hatter> grumplestiltzkin, for a moment I thought realplayer was coming back
21:45 < grumplestiltzkin> Hatter: same. I did a double take
21:45 < Hatter> remember watching shitty 15MB copies of south park in real player
21:45 < int0x1C8> BUFFERING
21:46 < gnupluslinux> fuck im hungry
21:46 < int0x1C8> BUFFER THE VIDEO SLAYER
21:46 < gnupluslinux> B U F F E R I N G
21:46 < grumplestiltzkin> int0x1C8: I wasn't aware of full30 before. I mostly avoid youtube.   except like, to post this
21:46 < grumplestiltzkin> .yt left rights im on crack
21:46 <+layer-eight> YouTube The Left Rights - "I'M ON CRACK" Music Video - https://youtu.be/0GLoHifu6aM
21:47 < kronis> Wait, hickok45 left YouTube?
21:47 < kronis> I usually let him post a ton and then binge it all
21:47 < int0x1C8> I don't think so
21:52 < felda> It'll be the year 3009 and cryptic1 will still be trying to use DNS
21:52 <@cryptic1> DNS IS THE FUTURE
21:52 <@cryptic1> right dbcc?
21:53  * felda definitely didn't just join his personal server to the domain >_>
21:53 < mal_will> NetBIOS is the only tied and true option
21:53 < felda> WINS is bae!
21:54  * tsarbomba flings felda down a quarry
21:55 < DomLS3> lmhost > *
21:56 < catbeard> DoH is the future
21:57 < catbeard> 200 years from now
21:57 < catbeard> someone here will say
21:57 < felda> WHAT DO I DO LORD?
21:57 < catbeard> It's always DNS over HTTPS
21:57 < felda> D E S T R O Y  T H E  C H I LD
21:58 < estranger> flew to CA yesterday, had an earthquake already https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/nc73000196#executive
21:59 < felda> lmao was it when you landed?! XD
21:59 < estranger> was when vinrock's mom jumped
22:00 < felda> wow look at that guy with IPv6 isn't he cool
22:01 < felda> I'm not jealous that my ISP doesn't offer IPv6 and HE Tunnel breaks websites that block proxies
22:01 < m4221> I have catalogdata folders eating up space on my EDB volume.  Are those safe to delete after turning off the exchange search indexer?
22:03 < tsarbomba> it sounds like you massively underestimated the size requirements of your exchange store
22:03  * tsarbomba staples m4221 to the wall so he can't do any more damage
22:04 < felda> damn what should I make for dinner tonight?
22:04 < felda> tacos?
22:04 < felda> sloppy joes?
22:04 < DomLS3> m4221: how much GB is the catalogdata eating up?
22:04 < DomLS3> s/j/h
22:04 < Heresiarch> spaghetti.
22:04 <+layer-eight> felda meant: "sloppy hoes?"
22:04 < m4221> DomLS3: 25 GB
22:04 < felda> spaghetti is delicious yes
22:04 < DomLS3> m4221: that’s it? it’s just going to grow right back
22:04 < felda> cryptic1 drinks hotdog water like it's tea
22:04 < DomLS3> find somewhere else to get space.
22:04 < m4221> DomLS3: we have none
22:04 < DomLS3> m4221: get moar
22:05 < tsarbomba> he flavors it with maple syrup first, though
22:05 < DomLS3> m4221: are you running nightly backups to purge the logs?
22:05 < m4221> DomLS3: edb is 275 GB about
22:05 < DomLS3> m4221: are you running nightly backups to purge the logs?
22:06 < m4221> DomLS3: does the catalogdata folder get cleaned as a part of the backup?
22:06 < DomLS3> m4221: no
22:06 < m4221> Fuck
22:06 < DomLS3> but I’m asking to make sure you’re still doing it
22:06 < DomLS3> because the exchange log files grow big time if you don’t
22:06 < m4221> DomLS3, yes we are nightly backing them up
22:06 < DomLS3> If you’re worried about 25 GB, just go get a 1TB USB hard drive and move the catalog data to it until you can get more on board storage
22:07 < alazare619> WHOSE READY FOR SOME MCLOVIN!
22:07 < DomLS3> because once you hit a certain % of free space available, the exchange transport service is going to stop and you’ll be screwed
22:07 < m4221> DomLS3: our other edb file is 180 GB about with a 25 GB GB catalogdata
22:07 < DomLS3> m4221: move catalog data to a USB drive or add more on board storage
22:07 < m4221> DomLS3: can catalogdata be moved on the fly?
22:08 < m4221> That is without turning off a service?
22:08 < DomLS3> probably not. You’ll have to delete it, repoint the catalog data to the new drive then let it rebuild
22:08 < DomLS3> you could try to move it first I guess but I don’t think it’ll work
22:08 < Stoob> Welcome to exchange administration
22:08 < DomLS3> shut the service off, move the data to USB drive, repoint catalog data to USB drive, turn on service
22:08 < DomLS3> see if it works
22:10 < Stoob> My favorite was an exchange server that shat itself because the C: drive (which no actual exchange mailbox/catalog/logs were stored on) eventually got less than 5GB free on it and exchange helpfully refused to accept any more mail
22:10 < DomLS3> Stoob: yes that’s the backpressure stuff kicking in
22:11 < Stoob> Sorry, but I don't agree with the logic that if the OS drive has "only" 5GB free, you should completely shutdown mail acceptance - especially since mail at no point gets stored on the OS drive
22:11 < DomLS3> Stoob: It does that so you don’t lose mail
22:12 < DomLS3> Because if the drive fills up and still tries to accept new mail, that mail will get lost
22:12 < Stoob> you're not listening, the OS drive isn't accepting any mail
22:12 < Stoob> all of the database drives had plenty of space
22:12 < DomLS3> oh
22:12 < Stoob> all of the log drives had plenty of space
22:12 < DomLS3> was exchange installed on the C:\ drive?
22:12 < dragonfleas> ok
22:13 < dragonfleas> slackware is pretty cool
22:13 < Stoob> not to mention at what point are you accepting 5 freakin gigabyte emails
22:15 < vinrock> (4:00:10 PM) estranger: was when vinrock's mom jumped
22:15 < vinrock> you talkin trash sucka
22:15 < vinrock> ill fite u
22:15  * estranger is ready to throw down
22:15  * vinrock runs
22:16 < vinrock> man
22:16 < vinrock> its monday
22:16 < vinrock> i was excited to get done with work and drink a beer
22:16 < vinrock> but now im gona work late and probably have another 14h day
22:16 < sedition> i could use a beer
22:16 < vinrock> i gotta pick up a mini fridge
22:16 < vinrock> i need to keep a beer stash here
22:17 < sedition> my buddy gave us a space fridge/freezer so now i have one in the garage for beer
22:17 < sedition> s/space/spare/
22:17 <+layer-eight> sedition meant: "my buddy gave us a spare fridge/freezer so now i have one in the garage for beer"
22:17 < sedition> thanks regex bo
22:17 < sedition> t
22:17 < DomLS3> space fridge/freezer huh
22:17 < DomLS3> lol
22:18 < sedition> i was looking at kegerators but the good ones are like 600 dollars
22:18 < sedition> or more
22:18 < vinrock> they're easy to make
22:18 < estranger> feels like tuesday :(
22:18 < FrostCyborg> does anyone know if it's possible to disable modern auth in O365 for a single user, or is it just for the full tenant?
22:19 < dragonfleas> on slackpkg i'm getting a file signature error
22:19 < dragonfleas> ugh
22:19 < dragonfleas> anyone have any ideas?
22:20 < vinrock> git gud sucka
22:21 < estranger> wow im like 12 miles from the epicenter .. glad it was small lol
22:21 < vinrock> you guys had an illinoisquake?
22:22 < atom138> Director of technology got involved in a ticket of mine today from Friday. Here I was thinking I survived Friday the 13th unscathed.
22:22 < m4221> Extending the volume on an exchange server, bad idea?
22:22 < atom138> That's 5 levels of management above my manager. Oof
22:24 < estranger> vinrock, im in cali, so its less surprising
22:24 < vinrock> ah
22:25 < tsarbomba> are you guys pouring cholula all over each other again
22:30 < TheTinker86> could use some help if anyone knows. have a redirected printer on server 2008 that auto deletes after spooling. nothing ever prints
22:31 < ebol4> hey anyone ever used a broom
22:31 < ebol4> i swept everything into a pile but how do i pick it up
22:31 < ebol4> all i have is a swiffer
22:31 < sedition> with a dustpan
22:31 < abakedapplepie> wat
22:31 < ebol4> and the stupid pieces of shit do not come with a dustpan
22:31 < abakedapplepie> so use ...anything flat
22:31 < ebol4> who just owns flat things
22:31 < abakedapplepie> a piece of paper oughtta do
22:31 < ebol4> oh fuck you're a genius
22:31 < ebol4> brb
22:32 < abakedapplepie> sure, genius, we'll use that
22:35 < SynMonger> those large cardstock pieces of junkmail work in a pinch
22:36 < TheTinker86> this printer redirect is a bit of a pain in the arse lol
22:38 < vinrock> ebol4:  he didn't tell you the next step is rolling the paper into a tube and inhaling the pile of dust
22:38 < corn266> Woo either 3rd or 4th rhel install today on the same goddamn machine
22:39 < corn266> PoS goes into kernel panic on software initiated shutdown/reboot
22:41 < corn266> but only in graphical.target, it's totally fine in multi-user.target mode
22:41 < ebol4> time to throw it away
22:42 < corn266> the only solution
22:48 < mkillebrew> have you conidered debugging instead of just installing again and again?
22:49 < vinrock> https://imgur.com/a/gZiIi
22:52 < TheTinker86> cant change security to the sys32/spool folder :-/
22:53 < tsarbomba> why would you want to
22:53 < vader-> haha
22:53 < TheTinker86> microsoft site says it may be needed for this printer redirect im trying to setup
22:54 < corn266> mkillebrew: each install was a variation of hold and change debugging, this install is to enable kdump and review
22:54 < catbeard> s/site/shite
22:54 <+layer-eight> TheTinker86 meant: "microsoft shite says it may be needed for this printer redirect im trying to setup"
22:54 < TheTinker86> i can see the printer from the server. i cant print to it. event viewer says 'access denied'. researching, says permission to spool folder could be the issue
22:55 < catbeard> who needs a prniter, just ShareX it to private Owncloud over HTTPS, and copy link done
22:56 < TheTinker86> they are printing invoices to a printer using a software that is only on the server location
22:56 < catbeard> Timberline or something
22:56 < TheTinker86> remote to server to access software, then needs to print a physical copy where they physically are at the time
22:57 < catbeard> ugh.. hardcopy
22:57 < TheTinker86> i know lol
22:57 < catbeard> haven't they heard of Xero accounting app
22:57 < TheTinker86> i can only bring them to this century one step at a time
22:57 < vinrock> catbeard: https://sagecity.na.sage.com/support_communities/sage_businessworks/f/sage-businessworks-forum/27810/check-printing-error
22:57 < catbeard> well at least bring their accounting into this one
22:57 < catbeard> then everything else will follow
22:58 < TheTinker86> the primary issue. the software they use just prints the data of the invoice on to preprinted invoice sheets
22:58 < catbeard> so it's a scribe not a printer
22:58 < catbeard> :)
22:59 < catbeard> real printers print the invoice lines
22:59 < TheTinker86> the software they use doesnt allow it
22:59 < catbeard> i'll allow it
22:59 < TheTinker86> to print images with the invoice template
22:59 < catbeard> lol
22:59 < catbeard> so run it through once
22:59 < catbeard> then put printed paper back in
22:59 < catbeard> voila
23:00 < ebol4> is not allowing a bash script to be run from /tmp/ an selinux thing
23:00 < ebol4> i get a permission denied error
23:00 < catbeard> no
23:00 < catbeard> that's a mount option
23:00 < ebol4> i see...
23:00 < catbeard> grep noexec /proc/mounts
23:00 < TheTinker86> catbeard i dont know what you're talking about
23:00 < catbeard> TheTinker86: you said it wouldn't allow you to print the stuff it needs to print AND the invoice template
23:01 < catbeard> which i assume means simultaneously
23:01 < TheTinker86> we have invoice pages already. the software prints the data on the invoice
23:01 < TheTinker86> i have no way of printing a digital (PDF) with both
23:01 < TheTinker86> thats why they need physical copies
23:01 < catbeard> why would you print a PDF
23:01 < TheTinker86> ...
23:01 < catbeard> that's why it's a pdf
23:01 < TheTinker86> i cant print to any non hard copy presently
23:01 < TheTinker86> the software they print from doesnt have it as an otion
23:02 < catbeard> pdf does
23:02 < catbeard> adobe reader does anyway
23:02 < kuahara> you can't print to a printer of your choice?
23:02 < TheTinker86> THE SOFTWARE THEY PRINT FROM lol
23:02 < catbeard> yes but you have the pdf yes
23:02 < TheTinker86> they dont print FROM adobe reader
23:02 < catbeard> so why are you trying to print a PDF from other software?
23:02 < TheTinker86> no i need a hard copy
23:02 < catbeard> oh
23:02 < SynMonger> who's on first?
23:02 < catbeard> so which government is this for
23:03 < TheTinker86> they take this printer to a home show. they take the laptop. the software is on the server. remote to server doesnt allow to print back to the local printer
23:03 < TheTinker86> its redirected but it keeps saying access denied
23:03 < catbeard> is remote printing service enabled...?
23:03 < TheTinker86> well, the event viewer says it couldn't print because of access denied
23:03 < TheTinker86> yeah i had to enable it to get the redirect to show
23:04 < SynMonger> is this initial setup, or was it working and stopped?
23:04 < TheTinker86> initial
23:04 < catbeard> is this over RDP?
23:05 < TheTinker86> yes
23:05 < catbeard> is "Everyone" in the security group for system32\spool ?
23:05 < TheTinker86> it tries to print, spools, then deletes. event viewer error says the server was given 'access denied' from the laptop
23:05 < catbeard> or "Authenticated Users" ?
23:06 < TheTinker86> that was my initial question. it wont let me force 'everyone' control
23:06 < tsarbomba> anybody here assembling a taint team?
23:06 < sedition> a what now
23:06 < catbeard> sedition++
23:06 < TheTinker86> i tried to force 'everyone' full control. it denied 6 files.
23:06 < catbeard> which files
23:06 < TheTinker86> i turned off services and tried again. again was denied
23:06 < catbeard> try restarting the spool service?
23:07 < catbeard> also, USB printer or COM
23:07 < TheTinker86> usb
23:07 < catbeard> configured to accept prints over TCP/IP ?
23:07 < vinrock> the tinker86 did you see the link i shared
23:07 < vinrock> has to do with check printing but it's sage so might be a similar situation
23:08 < catbeard> instead of like LPT
23:08 < TheTinker86> checking vin
23:08 < felda> :O
23:08 < felda> F34RInc the new pfblockerng dropped
23:08 < TheTinker86> im rebooting the laptop now after verifying UAC was off
23:09 < tsarbomba> lol @ tribune seeding local papers with "what? everything in puerto rico is fine now" op-eds
23:09 < felda> aww it's just a small update
23:10 < felda> ;_;
23:10 < felda> I am deflated
23:10 < catbeard> if it were me, i'd just email the pdf to a ringcentral email to fax to a fax machine in your office
23:10 < catbeard> </0.02>
23:11 < TheTinker86> winprint.dll /tools
23:11 < TheTinker86> those 2 were denied
23:11 < catbeard> .dll sounds ... requisite
23:13 < catbeard> TheTinker86: sounds like your $co is one of those 'well its worked for us for 20 years why change now' kinda outfits
23:14 < TheTinker86> it is
23:14 < catbeard> had a similar issue with a steel mill paycheck printer been there 30 years never had an issue, software they used had a hardware adapter to 'prevent unauthorized printing', simply removed it and replaced the SERIAL CABLE THATS OLDER THAN I AM
23:14 < kuahara> I'm curious to know what the advanced security settings for <printer> window looks like.
23:14 < catbeard> [ ] Allow complete network access
23:14 < catbeard> [ ] Boot from PXE
23:14 < catbeard> lol
23:15 < kuahara> preferrably a screenshot
23:15 < DrGibby|> 🤔
23:15 < catbeard> DrGibby|: lol
23:17 < TheTinker86> ok how about i go around the problem. any software preference for dialing into the router for vpn?
23:18 < catbeard> openvpn
23:18 < catbeard> but you wouldn't vpn into the router, you'd share a vpn subnet with the machine already on the vpn behind the router
23:19 < kuahara> Windows
23:19 < catbeard> this way you don't paint a VPN EXISTS HERE target on your office network with the printer
23:19 < TheTinker86> ok, i'll take a look at that
23:19 < mal_will> I asked Rackspace for a logical network diagram. :The document you are looking for is called a visio and it would need to be created.
23:19 < mkillebrew> or vpnc for a cisco vpn endpoint
23:19 < catbeard> bahahaha
23:20 < kuahara> setup an L2TP VPN at work, just use the windows client on the end user machine.  Forget 3rd party software.
23:20 < tsarbomba> it's called "a visio"?
23:20 < tsarbomba> microsoft's on the phone looking for a spiff
23:20 < catbeard> it's called 'a draw.io'
23:20 < catbeard> the free version of visio
23:20 < mal_will> "thank you sir, for correcting me. I might have sounded like an IDIOT if I said that in less polite company"
23:20 < tsarbomba> s/draw.io/libreoffice draw
23:20 <+layer-eight> catbeard meant: "it's called 'a libreoffice draw'"
23:20 < dragonfleas> top 5 desktop environments?
23:20 < dragonfleas> anyone got any suggestions
23:20 < catbeard> dragonfleas: MS-DOS
23:20 < dragonfleas> i don't like xfce
23:20 < dragonfleas> jesus fucking christ
23:20 < tsarbomba> xfce 4 lyfe
23:21 < dragonfleas> i think i prefer lxde
23:21 < tsarbomba> you just made the baby jesus cry
23:21 < dragonfleas> well i'm an atheist so i make baby jesus cry all the time anyways
23:21  * tsarbomba hands over your neckbeard grooming kit and stingy-brimmed fedora
23:21 < dragonfleas> btw guys right now 1070 ti's are being sold for MSRP, so if you want an upgrade i highly suggest you purchase one
23:21 < mal_will> damn, a two fer. a secretary has to invite 40 people to a private slack channel of her creation. "Is there an easy way to invite them all at once? Or do I have to invite one-by-one?  There's like 70 people. Trying to minimize my workload on creating it..."
23:22 < dragonfleas> tsarbomba, how do you operate so cleverly in the chan all the time
23:22 < mal_will> I mean, no? You ever fucking use facebook, love?
23:22 < tsarbomba> typing, mostly
23:23 < alazare619> https://www.inc.com/betsy-mikel/yale-is-letting-anyone-take-its-most-popular-class-ever-for-free.html the class is labled how to be happy
23:24 < mkillebrew> how to be happy? who the fuck wants that
23:24 < mkillebrew> happy people don't drive themselves to earn more or create better things
23:24 < xtensive> learn to love yourself alazare619
23:24 < tsarbomba> teamviewer ditched the need for wine in 13 for linux
23:24 < tsarbomba> fucking about time
23:25 < catbeard> dragonfleas: link pls
23:25 < catbeard> mal_will: put them in a @group
23:25 < catbeard> then /invite @group
23:25 < mal_will> That seems harder, hahaha
23:25 < catbeard> actually way easier
23:25 < catbeard> for 0day projects
23:25 < catbeard> i just do
23:26 < catbeard> join #0day-topic
23:26 < dragonfleas> http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1070ti/
23:26 < mal_will> I just go to invite, then type q - add all q names
23:26 < dragonfleas> a few of them have gone out of stock but there's still some left
23:26 < mal_will> adding to the group though catbeard
23:26 < catbeard> and from there /invite @ctig @incident-response
23:26 < mal_will> you still gotta hand select names, right?
23:26 < catbeard> for the initial grouping i think that's in slack web admin
23:26 < catbeard> in user management
23:26 < catbeard> or group management
23:29 < xe0n> morning
23:30 < asimon> Good morning
23:31 < sedition> hi
23:32 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh
23:32 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: divide-by-zero error
23:32 <+MillerBOSS> zero
23:34 < admiralspark> .bofh
23:34 <+layer-eight> admiralspark, BOFH says: Just type 'mv * /dev/null'.
23:34 < admiralspark> doin it
23:36 < tsarbomba> fucking car insurance arbitrarily goes up at random
23:36 < catbeard> tsarbomba: so do their competitor's savings..
23:55 <@cryptic1> evening
23:57 < xamithan> How do I troubleshoot a server that isn't throwing any useful error messages
23:57 < tsarbomba> depends on what it's doing
23:57 < tsarbomba> or not doing
23:57 < xamithan> It died while I was trying to run an update
23:57 < Tekz> define died
23:57 < xamithan> keeps rebooting itself
23:57 < sedition> did you try swearing at it
23:58 < xamithan> I'm leaning toward bad memory
23:58 < tsarbomba> is it POSTing?
23:58 < xamithan> Yeah it boots up fine
23:58 < xamithan> no errors
23:58 < Tekz> what OS
23:58 < xamithan> freebsd 11
23:58 < Tekz> logfiles don't say anything?
23:58 < tsarbomba> oh, there's your problem
23:58  * tsarbomba trollface
23:59 < xamithan> Log files says bind is giving page faults
23:59 < xamithan> I turned off bind and the advertisement of IPs,  still rebooted >.<
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