--- Log opened Sun Apr 22 00:00:53 2018 00:28 < czarbomba> The Windows Search service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 225 time(s). 00:28 < czarbomba> lel 00:36 <+NinjaStyle> Hey hey hey 00:36 <+NinjaStyle> Smoke weed yesterday 00:37 < L3gacy> I left out cookies and Henny for Snoop 00:38 <+NinjaStyle> Did he leave you presents and drink your cough medicine? 00:53 < czarbomba> snoop leaves roaches in the ashtray and drinks gin & juice 01:01 <+DrGibby|> look at my fancypants with his ashtry 01:01 <+DrGibby|> ashtray* 01:08 < mal_will> I saw lil wayne and lil jon yesterday, and it was exactly how you 'd think it would be 01:08 < Sousapro> SysAdminGoneCraZ: how's it going? 01:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Sousapro: Going alright. 01:13 * m4221 tases SysAdminGoneCraZ at his wife's request 01:13 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Yeah. she would too. 01:17 * m4221 binds SysAdminGoneCraZ to a server rack at his wife's request 01:18 < m4221> SysAdminGoneCraZ: she tazed me into it 01:22 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> m4221: No worries, does it to me sometimes too. 01:25 < m4221> SysAdminGoneCraZ: she wanted it done with cat6 shielded cables. O.o 01:27 < Sousapro> Cat of 6a tails 01:28 < Sousapro> Just like strips of 6a shielded attached to a grip with metal rj45 on the end 01:30 <+NinjaStyle> anyone working on something cool? 01:31 < czarbomba> i'm making a skin suit out of m4221 01:32 * m4221 tases czarbomba for the proletariat 01:33 < m4221> NinjaStyle: nah, making taserd 01:33 < m4221> tasers 01:34 <+NinjaStyle> someone do something to entertain me! 01:34 <+NinjaStyle> im rewatching westworld 01:34 <+NinjaStyle> good shit 01:37 * Gencade pegs m4221 01:37 < m4221> Harder 01:37 < Gencade> ew no 01:38 * m4221 ties Gencade to the same rack as SysAdminGoneCraZ 01:38 < Gencade> what the fuck 01:39 < m4221> Gencade: SysAdminGoneCraZ's wife tazed me into it 01:40 < m4221> Gencade: how is your saturday evening? 01:42 * m4221 eats abakedapplepie 01:48 <+NinjaStyle> anyone here live in dallas? 01:48 < m4221> NinjaStyle: no! 01:52 <+NinjaStyle> im a little surprised by how much houses still cost in dallas actually 02:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> NinjaStyle: Eh, I think it's because as soon as you leave Dallas, it's all desert. Like all cities in TX. 02:02 <+NinjaStyle> =/ 02:02 <+NinjaStyle> trying to decide if i take this full remote job, where would be a cheap but not shit place to live 02:02 <+NinjaStyle> not that i would move, just thinking 02:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> NinjaStyle: I hear Delaware is pretty cheap. Low property taxes too. 02:05 * NinjaStyle looks at delaware on redfin 02:13 <+DrGibby|> livepd in 45 minutes lads 02:14 < vader-> Hmm Netflix removed Avicii's documentary... I wonder if they didn't want to pay Amazon for all the bandwidth of people watching it. 02:19 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: did the recruiter say he would get back to you in any timeframe? 02:20 <+DrGibby|> yeah, next Wed/Thurs 02:20 <+NinjaStyle> cool. FYI, his role is basically to give your resume to my boss and the other director and thats most of it 02:20 <+NinjaStyle> he doesnt have final say or anything, he is just an initial screen 02:21 <+DrGibby|> oh 02:21 <+DrGibby|> well, that helps my thoughts about it 02:21 <+NinjaStyle> i thought my call with him went bad too 02:21 <+DrGibby|> he said something about a live demo or some shit too 02:21 < Sousapro> Jesus, somethings you could go a lifetime without knowing were possible in hospitals https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/10/17219406/embalmed-alive-russia-formaldehyde-how-caleb-wilde 02:21 <+DrGibby|> but not next week 02:22 <+NinjaStyle> he is also just the point of contact through the interview process 02:23 <+NinjaStyle> the interview process goes as follows: call with recruiter, call with directors as a short phone screen mostly about your experience, call or onsite with the team where you present some stuff about a technical challenge youll be given. 02:24 < Sousapro> Next step is you design their cloud architecture in detail, they take notes furiously and then thank you for your time 02:24 < coderphive> lmao 02:24 <+DrGibby|> Sousapro: like SV? 02:24 <+NinjaStyle> lol 02:25 < Sousapro> lol, I haven't actually watched that yet 02:25 <+NinjaStyle> honestly the technical challenge is pretty easy, if youre coming in as an associate you get a while night to work on it 02:25 < Sousapro> But I'm bumping it up in priority 02:25 <+NinjaStyle> whole* 02:25 < coderphive> I like to have a brief discussion about their strengths and then either have them work a development problem for me or a hybrid development/systems problem 02:25 < coderphive> Then we do a sort of review and conversation 02:26 < Sousapro> They'll need passwords and contact information in case it breaks later and you aren't hired 02:26 < Sousapro> :P 02:26 < Sousapro> NinjaStyle: a whole night is pretty generous 02:27 < Sousapro> coderphive: I feel like most problems are hybrid Dev/systems issues now 02:27 <+DrGibby|> well, I suppose I should brush the dust off red teaming again heh 02:27 <+NinjaStyle> Sousapro: yeah its supposed to be day in advance for associates, a couple hours for consultants, and at the start of interview for seniors 02:27 < coderphive> Depends on who you're interviewing 02:27 < Sousapro> coderphive: oh sure, was just talking about problems in the real world 02:27 <+NinjaStyle> Sousapro: basically allowing research time for the less experienced candidates 02:27 < Sousapro> Makes sense 02:28 < coderphive> tbh I don't even go to those kinds of interviews lol 02:28 < aleph-> NinjaStyle: So where are you moving onto? DrGibby| Any word from the recruiter? 02:28 < Sousapro> Like it's been a damn long time since there was a problem I've had to deal with in prod wasn't a hybrid issue or just pure code that I helped troubleshoot 02:28 <+DrGibby|> aleph-: not yet, sometime next week I'm sure 02:29 < Sousapro> I have no fear stepping through code if it's readable 02:29 <+NinjaStyle> aleph-: i havent made my decision yet, going to talk to the bosses monday then i will know 02:29 < coderphive> mmm 02:29 < aleph-> Nice, nice. 02:29 < coderphive> Are you a backend dev or SRE? 02:29 < Sousapro> I'm not a Dev but I seem to catch logic errors pretty frequently 02:29 < aleph-> Can't wait for thursday, CTO time. The wait be killing me. 02:29 < Sousapro> Me? 02:29 < coderphive> si 02:30 < Sousapro> Windows systems administrator lol 02:30 < coderphive> oh 02:30 < Sousapro> But I have no fear 02:30 < coderphive> meh 02:30 < Sousapro> I'll look at anything 02:30 < coderphive> I put Backend Devs and SRE's through the same sort of trials 02:30 < Sousapro> I mean, I would love SRE level pay 02:30 < coderphive> though the backend dev gets more data oriented tasks 02:31 < coderphive> What languages do you know? 02:31 * aleph- is an SRE 02:32 * DLSteve is a dev but management thinks he's and SRE. 02:32 < Hunterkll> guess i'm going to california for a weekend 02:32 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: your life is weird 02:32 < coderphive> NinjaStyle Hunterkll is weird 02:32 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, needed 268 more EQDs for my AA status 02:32 < Hunterkll> so fuck it 02:33 < Hunterkll> got a flight that netted 317 EQD total round trip ($380 total cost) 02:33 < Hunterkll> gonna hit up A-KO for a friday and saturday night 02:33 < Hunterkll> got more than enough BTC in a sell order to cover the cost too 02:34 < coderphive> Sousapro if you learn some languages like Python, Ruby, and/or Go and have a pretty deep knowledge of Linux and networking then your chances to be an SRE are pretty good 02:34 < DLSteve> I have a hard time flying somewhere for a weekend, flying in general drains me. 02:35 < coderphive> Though I've observed a lot of companies don't know the difference between an SRE-SE and an SRE-SWE 02:35 < coderphive> They think of SRE as the new "Full Stack" 02:35 < coderphive> which is wrong 02:35 < DLSteve> Yah basically what they think I am. 02:35 < coderphive> LinkedIn being one of those companies 02:35 < coderphive> Not a single SRE-SE and their SRE dept is 400 strong 02:36 < coderphive> it's a joke 02:36 < DLSteve> I maintain the server, the application, and do a lot of the new development for the application along with Tier 4 support. 02:36 < coderphive> SRE's can still write production code 02:36 < coderphive> It's just their focus is quite literally in reliability engineering 02:36 < coderphive> so that > % 02:37 < DLSteve> Yah but it's usually not net new features for downstream customers. 02:37 < DLSteve> It's making the existing codebase more reliable. 02:37 < coderphive> sounds like an SRE-SWE type role 02:37 < coderphive> Do you have a pretty deep understanding behind the languages you code in? 02:37 < DLSteve> Who knows, they pay me as a dev and I'm not on call so there is that. 02:38 < coderphive> (I'm not an SRE-SWE; forewarning) 02:38 < coderphive> oh, yeah that's not SRE 02:39 < DLSteve> I know Python quite well, Java and JS to a decent extent, and can get by in 3 or 4 other languages. 02:39 < coderphive> mmm 02:40 < DLSteve> Been messing around with Go and C# .net core lately. 02:40 < coderphive> For example, one of the best SRE-SWE's I know broke down how java does byte conversion for math 02:40 < Casteil> .NET Core + angular/react is pretty nifty 02:40 < DLSteve> Yah thats not that bad actually. 02:40 < coderphive> That's the level of knowledge I'm talking about 02:41 < DLSteve> I have had to implement certain data structures to make scripts not take ages to run. 02:41 < coderphive> yeap, that's a pretty common function 02:41 <+NinjaStyle> i wonder if i could be an SRE 02:41 <+NinjaStyle> i probably could 02:41 < coderphive> Maybe 02:41 < coderphive> You work in security? 02:42 <+NinjaStyle> ye 02:42 < coderphive> Do you have a background in systems or software engineering? 02:42 <+NinjaStyle> systems 02:42 < DLSteve> As for byte code math in Java I have not looked at it per say but I have had to look at assembly output for some of the C code I was writing for iOS to figure out issues so I'm used to the lower levels of how things work. 02:42 < coderphive> Do you like to fuck around with the kernel settings and STAP? 02:43 < coderphive> DLSteve the way he explained it was beautifully simple. That's usually the mark of a good SRE-SWE. 02:43 < coderphive> SRE's _do_ have to be really good communicators by default 02:43 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: ? no why would i need to do that 02:43 < coderphive> NinjaStyle that's part of the function of an SRE-SE 02:44 < coderphive> SE = systems engineer 02:44 <+NinjaStyle> ive never had a reason to use stap 02:44 < coderphive> Meh, it's not too bad tbh 02:45 < coderphive> Bring up the kernel code on github and give it a whirl 02:45 < coderphive> There's some cool stuff in there you can trace out 02:45 <+NinjaStyle> meh 02:45 < coderphive> I usually use STAP for lossiness in cloud environments since most images are kind of off for specific use cases 02:46 < DLSteve> You really only need to go to that level if you are doing some sort of kernel magic to get better performance for a specific task. 02:46 < coderphive> ^ 02:46 < coderphive> It is pretty standard knowledge in the SRE-SE world though 02:47 < coderphive> I _think_ I have some notes on STAP and kernel stuff in my github repo 02:47 < coderphive> https://github.com/mattouille/sre_wiki 02:47 < coderphive> I haven't updated it in a while though 02:47 < DLSteve> I have contemplated building container images from the ground up, both to reduce size and better optimize them for the application they are running. 02:48 < DLSteve> Although you are still using the kernel of the host system with a container. 02:49 < coderphive> yes 02:49 < coderphive> I usually just default to alpine for container OS' 02:49 < coderphive> or CoreOS 02:49 < coderphive> but since redhat owns it now, that may end 02:49 < coderphive> we'll see 02:50 < DLSteve> We are a RedHat shop anyway :/ 02:50 < coderphive> :( 02:50 < DLSteve> Except for that one rogue team running hadoop on CentOS for some reason lol. 02:50 < coderphive> heh 02:51 < coderphive> Might as well be RedHat 02:51 * aleph- defauls to alpine himself. 02:51 < coderphive> Fedora is pretty cool, I'm not really a fan of RedHat or CentOS 02:51 < aleph-> Hmm, wonder if I have my asm archives somewhere still... 02:51 < DLSteve> Yah thats what I was saying except it's slightly worse as patches are delayed while they are ported. 02:51 < coderphive> If we're running VM's then Debian is my go to 02:52 < coderphive> We just put together a Packer build that strips down and secures Debian 02:52 < DLSteve> I have to fight to even use linux. My team is very Windows biased. 02:52 < coderphive> that's rough 02:52 < coderphive> being a windows SRE would be challenging I think 02:53 < coderphive> So many limitations 02:53 < DLSteve> I would say that half the people on my team worked at MS at some point lol so thats what they know. 02:53 < coderphive> oh 02:53 < coderphive> Reminds me of java devs 02:53 < coderphive> "We should use Java" 02:53 < coderphive> "Why?" 02:53 < coderphive> "Because that's what I know" 02:54 < coderphive> fuck me 02:54 < DLSteve> lol 02:54 < aleph-> coderphive: Thanks for the link, some stuff I didn't know in there. 02:54 < coderphive> aleph- feel free to PR! 02:54 < DLSteve> I have used Java for projects not because it's what I know, but because I know I can find someone else to dump it on to maintain when I move on. 02:55 < coderphive> DLSteve kek 02:55 < aleph-> coderphive: Heh I might, got enough documentation to upgrade at my own job. 02:55 < coderphive> Freedom with responsibility. You make it, you own it. 02:56 < coderphive> aleph- I definitely need to go through and add some updates 02:56 < coderphive> This time around I developed a very defined understanding of microservices both in development and management that would be useful on there 02:56 < aleph-> Ooh that definiely would be. 02:56 < DLSteve> coderphive Thats how it is now, problem is that we have one person who knows how business critical application X works and they just left the company. 02:56 < coderphive> basically, "how to not fuck up microservices, even on small teams" 02:57 < aleph-> If I get my new gig going to be breaking monolithic apps up into microservices. 02:57 < coderphive> DLSteve that's usually why you try to do dual ownership 02:57 < coderphive> aleph- that's tiring work 02:57 < coderphive> Are they doing a lift and shift at the same time? 02:58 < aleph-> Define lift and shift? 02:58 < coderphive> On-prem to cloud or distributed system 02:58 < DLSteve> coderphive, What I go for but thats an uphill battle sometimes, especially when it starts as a small little utility and kinda grows to something larger in scope. 02:58 < coderphive> DLSteve makes sense 02:59 < aleph-> coderphive: If I remember, bit of both. 02:59 < coderphive> yikes 02:59 < coderphive> That's dually hard 02:59 < DLSteve> coderphive, For example I'm chained to a web app I built for my use that kinda grew by word of mouth. Now the whole HR department uses it including several VPs >.< 02:59 < coderphive> I can give you kind of a summation of what I learned 02:59 < coderphive> DLSteve lmao, story of every devops fella 03:00 < aleph-> Yep, did that sorta at my current gig. But the apps were already seperated for the most part thankfully. 03:01 < aleph-> Damn it, Verne Troyer died. :/ 03:02 < coderphive> aleph- make sure each microservice has it's own database. Lock down the DB so no outside calls can be made. Version your API's and establish LTS endpoint contracts for structure and data types. Define microservices by function and by size. Reinforce automation at every step, from dev to prod. Use JWT and open all API endpoints. 03:02 < aleph-> Man, Bush, Avicii, Gunny, Harry Anderson and Now Troyer, the fuck. 03:02 < aleph-> coderphive: Noted, I'll write that down. 03:04 < coderphive> Damn, I didn't know Avicii died 03:04 < coderphive> that sucks 03:05 < coderphive> Those are just my observations thus far 03:05 < coderphive> JWT is weird because there is no real "logout" function as I know it 03:05 < coderphive> once you have a JWT it's good until expiration 03:06 < aleph-> JWT? 03:06 < coderphive> json web tokens 03:06 < coderphive> basically how you get around sessions and stateful applications 03:06 < Gencade> coderphive, you bowlcut nazi cunt jew 03:06 < coderphive> Gencade GOOD 03:07 < Gencade> Thanks 03:07 < Gencade> <3 03:07 < coderphive> Gencade muah! 03:07 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, i'm so amused that fastlag still hasn't come back 03:07 < DLSteve> coderphive, Then you get into stupid scenarios where people store JWT tokens in sessions. 03:07 < coderphive> Yeah, that doesn't make sense 03:07 < coderphive> I store them in a cookie and on logout just delete them with the client service 03:08 < coderphive> Still makes me feel weird that they're still valid, lol 03:08 < coderphive> like, I have no control over that =| 03:08 < DLSteve> Well it makes sense for the perspective that it's harder to do a XSS attack but at that point might as well just use regular encrypted cookies. 03:08 < coderphive> That is true 03:09 < coderphive> idk, I'm not a great software engineer, just an okay one 03:09 < coderphive> I do like JWT though 03:09 < DLSteve> JWT has it's place and I have put them in cookies because it is what was easy to do but I felt dirty doing it. 03:10 < DLSteve> I hate using Node JS but my team uses it for some things and Node actively encourages this. 03:10 < DLSteve> Well should say the JS community encourages this. 03:11 < precise> hahahahhahahaha 03:11 < precise> https://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/sys/d/quality-hacking-services-for/6560769484.html 03:11 < coderphive> yeah 03:11 < precise> hahahahahaha 03:11 < Casteil> firggin spider weaving a web right in front of one of my IP cams 03:11 < coderphive> I mean, JWT is pretty useful for API's 03:11 < mal_will> So, you gonna answer precise ? 03:11 < precise> >blocking of networks 03:12 < precise> lmao 03:12 < mal_will> I say you join forces 03:12 < precise> #hacktheplanet 03:12 < mal_will> become an elite team of srs individuals 03:12 < precise> vry srs 03:13 < coderphive> > *Surveillance of finances 03:13 < coderphive> wat 03:13 < DLSteve> coderphive, JWT is great for things like if you have an API gateway proxy that is doing access controls. Then you just hit whatever IdP you are using and send it to the gateway. 03:13 < precise> coderphive: rite? 03:13 < DLSteve> coderphive, then the backend services don't have to worry about authorization at all. 03:13 < coderphive> DLSteve I built my API's in flask and they use JWT after authentication 03:13 < DLSteve> Flask is very flexible. 03:14 < coderphive> basically the same API's my core service is on is what's exposed as like as you have a JWT 03:14 < coderphive> client service* 03:15 < DLSteve> coderphive, I have a Flask app that uses regular cookies for the web interface and JWT or cookies for the API. 03:15 < coderphive> Okay, sounds like I'm doing the right thing then 03:16 < coderphive> idk, just feels weird to me, but I guess that's the whole concept of the "stateless" world 03:16 < DLSteve> yah basically if it sees a bearer token it will use that for auth, if not it will fall back to the session cookie. 03:16 < aleph-> coderphive: Oh good lord, that idiot. 03:17 < DLSteve> All apps with authentication have state, they are never stateless. 03:17 < coderphive> mmm 03:17 < DLSteve> It's just that you are trying to convey state over a stateless protocol 03:17 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: fuck that guy 03:18 < Hunterkll> lol 03:18 < coderphive> Sessions are considered stateful, JWT is considered stateless iirc 03:18 < DLSteve> So you get the wierd workarrounds like JWT. 03:18 < precise> Unless of course you find yourself in deep space where the fabric of time is weakened, and then try and transport said App during a fluctuation and then lose said app in another dimmension 03:18 < coderphive> because it's not stored on the server, where a server is cognizant of sessions 03:18 < DLSteve> JWT is conveying state and has a limited life time (usually) 03:18 < DLSteve> sessions do not have to be stored on the server ether. 03:18 < coderphive> in the browser and through an algorithm though 03:19 < coderphive> don't have to be, but I think most web server or applications do store them by default 03:19 < coderphive> well, I know nginx does anyway 03:19 < coderphive> some interesting behaviors when you throw sessions at vanilla nginx 03:20 < DLSteve> actually for a lot of things I store all the session data in the cookie, that way the client can hit any node in the cluster without having to have a shared backend system to store sessions or setting an affinity cookie. 03:20 < coderphive> that's a stateless method to using session iirc 03:21 < coderphive> in this context I think state is referring to the backend, not the frontend (browser) 03:21 < DLSteve> Session is an abstract concept though in this case. There are several ways to do it. 03:21 < coderphive> I see what you mean though and you're right in the context that there is (some) state even with JWT 03:22 < DLSteve> All a cookie in the browser is is data that get shoved in the HTTP header for the current site you are making requests too. 03:22 < DLSteve> Esentually the same as sending a JWT token with every request. 03:24 < coderphive> I wonder how obtuse storing "spent" JWT tokens would be 03:25 < coderphive> json web tokens tokens 03:25 < coderphive> lel 03:25 < DLSteve> I thought about it before I typed it but I decided to go the ATM Machine route :P 03:26 < coderphive> haha I was doing it too 03:26 < coderphive> just sounded funny when I read it in my head 03:28 < DLSteve> coderphive, Only reason I nerd out on authentication methods is because I work in Identity and Access Management so a big part of what we do is Federate logins for applications and APIs :P 03:28 < coderphive> ooo 03:28 < coderphive> SynaCorp or Auth0? 03:29 < coderphive> tbh I'm enjoying the conversation, I'm learning quite a bit 03:29 < DLSteve> Internally we use Ping, but also have some Azure AD and and ADFS stuff. 03:29 < The_Dv8or> sup 03:37 <+DrGibby|> the sky 03:37 < coderphive> DrGibby| always lurkin' 03:37 * DrGibby| farts on coderphive 03:40 < precise> sssssssssssssssssssssssss 03:42 < coderphive> DLSteve ah, you're supposed to store JWT's 03:43 < coderphive> so, decode it and find out if it's valid, if it's not, ask the user to authenticate and generate a new one 03:43 < DLSteve> You store them on the client. 03:43 < DLSteve> right they are signed with a signature so the API has to validate that signature. 03:43 < coderphive> https://github.com/feathersjs/authentication/issues/267 03:44 < coderphive> So you could store the JWT on the user in the backend 03:44 < coderphive> or maintain a whitelist/blacklist 03:44 < DLSteve> Yah you can't invalidate a JWT token early. 03:44 < coderphive> exactly, that's the problem I'm wondering if I should solve 03:44 < DLSteve> Thats why they should have very short lifespans with refresh tokens. 03:44 < coderphive> or if it doesn't matter 03:44 < coderphive> ah 03:44 < coderphive> that makes more sense 03:45 < coderphive> so, like 10 minute tokens and have them hit a refresh 03:45 < Gencade> Fuck you DrGibby| 03:45 < precise> Yeah 03:45 < precise> Fuck DrGibby| 03:45 < Gencade> I put on my nice clothes just to come in here and tell you to fuck off 03:45 < Gencade> fuck DrGibby| 03:45 < DLSteve> I usually do an hour or two but it depends on your threat model. 03:45 < precise> /topic fuck DrGibby| 03:45 < coderphive> DLSteve That makes sense 03:46 <+DrGibby|> I like that topic, precise 03:46 < coderphive> Gencade you don't have nice clothes 03:46 < Gencade> Yes i do 03:46 < Gencade> my grandma gave me some for christmas before she died 03:46 < coderphive> Khaki's and a plaid shirt aren't 'nice' 03:47 < Gencade> they may or may not have been my step-grandfather's 03:47 < coderphive> also 03:47 < coderphive> define nice 03:47 < Gencade> .yt nice 03:47 <+layer-eight> YouTube Drake - Nice For What - https://youtu.be/U9BwWKXjVaI 03:47 < Gencade> There you go 03:47 < coderphive> lmao relevant 03:48 < Gencade> fuck DrGibby| tho 03:48 <+DrGibby|> <3 03:48 < Gencade> <3 03:49 < precise> snek <3 03:50 < Gencade> fuck snakes 03:50 < Gencade> only good snake is a dead snake 03:50 <+DrGibby|> :O 03:50 < Gencade> I reckon I've killed a bakers dozen snakes in the past 6 months 03:50 * precise smacks Gencade with his abnormally large trout 03:50 < precise> GENOCIDE! 03:50 * precise calls the UN 03:50 < Gencade> I reckon I've killed 2 bakers dozen snakes in the past 2 years 03:50 < precise> WAR CRIMES! 03:51 < Gencade> I reckon I enjoyed the different methods I chose to take them out 03:51 < Gencade> from shovels to shoes 03:51 < precise> mods 03:51 < precise> mods 03:51 < precise> mods 03:51 < Gencade> I reckon I want to kill more 03:51 < precise> triggered 03:51 < Gencade> I reckon I might do that right now 03:51 < precise> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 03:51 * Gencade googles closest pet store 03:51 < Gencade> ah a nice milksnake 03:51 < precise> cryptic1: I need op pls 03:51 < Gencade> he will be even nicer in the microwave 03:52 < Gencade> meming aside, fuck snakes 03:52 < precise> fuck off you golem cunt 03:52 < Gencade> no thanks 03:52 < precise> cryptic1: pls 03:52 < precise> pls 03:52 <+DrGibby|> pls 03:52 < Gencade> ping him one more time and a snake dies 03:52 < precise> cryptic1: 03:52 <+DrGibby|> what are we pls'ing? 03:52 * precise stabs Gencade 03:52 * Gencade kills a snake 03:52 < precise> DrGibby|: Gencade has commited war crimes against sneks 03:52 < precise> must be punished 03:53 * DrGibby| shrugs 03:53 < Gencade> if I had hitler and a snake in the same room with nothing but a shovel I'd hand the shovel to hitler so he could beat the snake's lifeless body after I chopped it's head off 03:54 < Gencade> precise, 03:54 < precise> If I was in a room with Gencade felda ravioli and JollyRgrs and had a gun with 8 bullets, I'd shoot myself 8 times because I never want to be in the room with any of you 03:54 < Gencade> LOL 03:54 <+DrGibby|> wow 03:54 < Gencade> nice one 03:55 <+DrGibby|> I get Gencade 03:55 < precise> ...shots fired 03:55 < Gencade> but you are in a room, right now 03:55 < Gencade> with all of us 03:55 <+DrGibby|> but why felda? 03:55 < precise> Mainly joking 03:55 <+DrGibby|> good 03:55 < precise> I also wanted to ping him 03:55 < precise> lol 03:55 <+DrGibby|> because <3 felda 03:55 < Gencade> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ8ozFgOTO0 03:55 <+layer-eight> YouTube LIVE: If You’re Scared of Blood, Don’t Watch This | WILD 2018 by 2018-03-28T12:35:22.000Z (duration: stream) on Wed Mar 28 19:35:22 UTC 2018, 2018-03-28T12:35:22.000Z views 03:59 < coderphive> DLSteve I literally just wrote the most bloated issue over token expiry and refreshing 03:59 < coderphive> lolol 03:59 < DLSteve> haha 04:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DLSteve: Python coding question for you. 04:02 < DLSteve> Whats up? 04:02 <+DrGibby|> the sky 04:02 < Gencade> WOW GOOD ONE DrGibby| 04:02 <+DrGibby|> thanks Gencade 04:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DLSteve: I'm learning and whatnot but I realize that you can import modules? Does that mean that Python, when it installs, isn't the complete language? 04:04 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DLSteve: I tried, basically, copying and pasting code to see if it would run, but then it has import errors and I don't understand where it was trying to import from? 04:04 < coderphive> mmm 04:04 < voidstar> importing external modules is like utilizing external libraries in any other language 04:04 < DLSteve> SysAdminGoneCraZ, Depends, there is the standard library modules that come with the Python install, but you can install additional ones via pip. 04:04 < coderphive> Python can be extended by mini-programs call modules SysAdminGoneCraZ 04:04 < voidstar> you'll find those external modules in pip 04:05 < JollyRgrs> precise: aww, that's so weet 04:05 < coderphive> modules/libraries are interchangeable 04:05 < JollyRgrs> sweet even 04:05 <+DrGibby|> its weet too 04:05 < coderphive> precise also lmao 04:05 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> coderphive, DLSteve, okay that makes sense. 04:05 < DLSteve> SysAdminGoneCraZ, allmost all the code from a different module (basically anything that is not in your current file) needs to be imported. 04:06 <+DrGibby|> SysAdminGoneCraZ: you'll find there are modules are out there for fucking everything 04:06 < coderphive> If you're going to play with libraries, learn to setup a virtual environment first SysAdminGoneCraZ 04:06 < DLSteve> However there are a lot of modules that come with Python so you do not have to go download them. 04:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DLSteve: I got really excited with learning that I grab random code to see if I can "decipher" it to learn by breaking it. I was a bit confused when it wouldn't import properly and thought I was doing something wrong. 04:07 < coderphive> eh, yeah don't do that 04:07 < coderphive> library code is usually made so that it can be interfaces with an that can be weird to understand at first 04:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Gotcha 04:07 < DLSteve> SysAdminGoneCraZ, I would look at the book called "Automate the Boring stuff with Python", it's a really good into to the language and provides practical examples that you would actually use. 04:08 < coderphive> ^^ 04:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> DLSteve: Yeah, I actually got that book! I started with Codeacademy and Learn Pythong in a month of lunches. 04:08 <+DrGibby|> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOYleXm3hEM 04:08 <+layer-eight> YouTube Special Operations Boat Airdrop From C-17: Low Velocity Airdrop Delivery System (LVADS) by 2018-04-20T22:50:10.000Z (duration: 1:37) on Sat Apr 21 05:50:10 UTC 2018, 2018-04-20T22:50:10.000Z views 04:08 < coderphive> Sorry, I kind of interjected myself there 04:08 < coderphive> kek 04:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Figured I get with that book after 04:09 < coderphive> CodeAcademy is great for beginners 04:09 < coderphive> There's some decent udemy courses too 04:09 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Yeah. 04:10 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> I don't wanna overwhelm myself so I'm basically focusing on 1 or 2 resourses first. 04:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> But thanks for the explanation, DLSteve coderphive DrGibby|. I appreciate it 04:11 < coderphive> DrGibby| that was pretty cool 04:13 < aleph-> Alright, time to start implementing AES-CBE 04:13 < aleph-> Should be fun. 04:19 < coderphive> oi 04:19 < coderphive> Does anyone else here have a blog? 04:19 < precise> felda.io 04:20 < coderphive> whew lad 04:20 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> ^ Only website I visit to get the lastest news. 04:20 < coderphive> dat site is the h0tn3ss 04:20 < precise> felda.io is for real 04:20 < precise> all others are fake news 04:20 < coderphive> pretty sure that's in the constitution somewhere 04:21 < precise> coderphive: Section 4 subsection 20 04:26 < coderphive> https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/8dzcd6/male_tenant_abandoned_property_left_this/ 04:26 < coderphive> yooooooo 04:27 < deww> think of all that money they can get back from recycling all those cans 04:28 < deww> oh shit that's te top comment 04:28 < deww> lol 04:28 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> wow 04:28 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> That's crazy 04:28 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Even for me lol 04:30 < raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day 04:33 < admiralspark> wow 04:33 < admiralspark> didn't expect it to be so active here on a weekend 04:34 < precise> admiralspark: You mean 04:34 < precise> A place where nerds congregate 04:34 < precise> Is active on a weekend? 04:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> You kidding? It;s like this EVERRRYYYYYY day for nerds. 04:34 < precise> you dont say 04:35 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> How do you know if you're a nerd or not? Visit felda.io. If you like what you see, you're a nerd. If you don't, stay there until you do. 04:35 < admiralspark> haha 04:36 < admiralspark> I usually only visit during working hours ;) 04:36 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Well, there you go. Bonus points if it's your homepage. 04:37 * precise sets all display laptops at bestbuy to felda.io 04:37 < admiralspark> I meant visiting #reddit-sysadmin 04:37 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> precise: LOLOL 04:37 < admiralspark> felda.io is cancer 04:37 < admiralspark> it gave me cancer 04:37 < precise> gtfo 04:37 < admiralspark> it might cure cancer too though 04:37 < precise> cryptic1: op pls 04:37 < admiralspark> cryptic1: get at me 04:37 < admiralspark> I'm not on your terrorsite :( 04:38 < admiralspark> how else will I COME ON AND SLAM 04:38 < admiralspark> oh hey 04:38 < admiralspark> did I shittalk too loudly 04:38 * admiralspark ducks 04:39 < admspark|wknd> there. Peace kids 04:40 < coderphive> Question 04:40 < coderphive> Can we all come to a consensus on our opinion of BA's and PM's? 04:40 < coderphive> Yay to hate or Ney to... whatever 04:42 <+DrGibby|> preventive maintenance? 04:42 < coderphive> project manages and business analysts 04:43 < mkillebrew> No, but there's already a consensus that one doesn't use an apostrophe to pluralize, even in initialisms and acronyms. 04:50 < precise> da fuck 04:51 < precise> I had a girl hit on me at my old job 04:51 < precise> We exchanged numbers 04:51 < kepler> project managers usually suck 04:51 < precise> We texted for a bit, I never followed up 04:51 < precise> Just responded to a post on /r/r4r 04:51 < precise> It's here 04:51 < precise> wtf 04:51 < precise> nooooooooooooo 04:52 < precise> I need exfil 04:52 < precise> EVAC 04:52 < precise> hallllp 04:53 <+DrGibby|> precise: just stop talking to them? 04:53 <+DrGibby|> or, better yet, why do you want to bail? 04:54 < mkillebrew> wtf is r4r 04:55 < precise> mkillebrew: Personals, on reddit 04:55 < precise> Is pretty cancer 04:55 < precise> but I browse once in a blue moon for shits and giggles 04:55 <+DrGibby|> met an ex on there 04:56 < mkillebrew> Did it not get shut down for human trafficing laws yet like other personals? 04:56 <+DrGibby|> the fuck are you on about mkillebrew? 04:56 < precise> DrGibby|: Reddit went through and bant a bunch of sub's cuz of the CLOUD bill or whatever 04:57 < precise> Basically if human traffickers use Reddit as a communications platform, Reddit can be held liable 04:57 < mkillebrew> Didn't craigslist kill theirs off citing that new unnecessarily broad law? 04:57 < xe0n> yo 04:57 < precise> mkillebrew: yes 04:57 < precise> xe0n: yo 04:57 < mkillebrew> holding the site responsible instead of the people 04:58 < precise> Yes 04:58 < xe0n> whats happening 04:58 < precise> The Bruins are fighting the leafs 04:58 < precise> xe0n: ^ 04:58 < precise> fite fite fite 04:58 < xe0n> loll nice 05:03 <+DrGibby|> s/fite/fight 05:03 <+layer-eight> precise meant: "fight fight fight" 05:04 < Sousapro> I just poked my head into voat.co 05:04 < Sousapro> Why would I do this? 05:04 <+DrGibby|> Sousapro: oh no 05:04 < Sousapro> It's like more racist /b/ 05:04 < precise> /r/eyebleach 05:04 <+DrGibby|> you need www.reddit.com/r/awww 05:05 < Sousapro> Seriously though, I'm good with people who have different opinions but that was gross 05:05 <+DrGibby|> its a cesspool 05:05 < Sousapro> And this is from someone who saw all of the shocking shit on the internet through the modern era 05:06 <+DrGibby|> Sousapro: 4chan for the most part and voat are nothing less than white supremacist websites 05:06 <+DrGibby|> wasn't always that case :/ 05:06 < Sousapro> DrGibby|: I think it caused me to lose more faith in humanity than 4chan did 05:06 < precise> DrGibby|: Yeah, it used to always be wholesome content 05:07 * precise roles eyes 05:07 < mkillebrew> Are we doing the "everyone I don't agree with is a nazi" again? 05:07 < Sousapro> DrGibby|: the creators and interesting folks left about 10 years ago 05:07 < Sousapro> mkillebrew: I literally saw the word niglets 8 times in 3 minutes of looking 05:07 < xe0n> loll 05:07 < Sousapro> mkillebrew: they might actually be white supremacists 05:08 < mkillebrew> They could be black. 05:08 < precise> ... 05:08 <+DrGibby|> mkillebrew: apparently is a Nazi too 05:08 < Sousapro> The sky could be purple or green tomorrow as well 05:08 <+DrGibby|> Gencade: ^^^ 05:09 < Sousapro> I'm just saying that it wasn't very wholesome and I didn't see much of value going on there 05:09 < precise> cryptic1: I've been disappointed by your absence this evening 05:09 < mkillebrew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z40MuRMyDjM 05:09 <+layer-eight> YouTube Who dis lil niglet by 2015-04-02T12:32:34.000Z (duration: 11s) on Thu Apr 02 19:32:34 UTC 2015, 2015-04-02T12:32:34.000Z views 05:10 < mkillebrew> white supremacist 05:10 < Sousapro> The way it was used was not like that 05:10 < precise> mkillebrew: Wow 05:10 <+DrGibby|> ... 05:11 < Sousapro> I'm all good, you're welcome to dig through voat all you want. it just made me sad, was all I had to say 05:11 * DrGibby| rubs his temples 05:11 < mkillebrew> I just presented the possibility, they get called a nazi for it 05:11 < mkillebrew> oh hell no, voat is pants-on-head retarded 05:11 < Sousapro> yeah, I'm with you on that 05:12 <+DrGibby|> mkillebrew essentially just linked a video like a racist person says "I have black friends" 05:12 < precise> ++ 05:13 < mkillebrew> mmmm no 05:13 < precise> mmmm yea 05:13 < mkillebrew> you know very well I don't have any black friends 05:14 <+DrGibby|> uh huh 05:14 < mkillebrew> or asian friends 05:14 < Sousapro> s/black/ . 05:14 < mkillebrew> yeah, I was getting to that 05:14 <+DrGibby|> color me surprised 05:14 < precise> heh 05:14 < precise> pun 05:14 < mkillebrew> but it's s/black// 05:14 < mkillebrew> get your fucking syntax right 05:14 < Sousapro> Oh I know, was trying to mess with the bot 05:15 < precise> s/black/'DROP TABLES; 05:15 <+layer-eight> mkillebrew meant: "but it's s/'DROP TABLES;//" 05:15 < mkillebrew> and failed spectacularly 05:15 < Sousapro> s/black/cat 05:15 <+layer-eight> Sousapro meant: " s/cat/ ." 05:15 < Sousapro> Aww yeah 05:15 < Sousapro> More alcohol is needed 05:15 <+DrGibby|> to deal with this nonsense, for sure 05:16 < Sousapro> It's okay, I'm always full of crap. Ask JollyRgrs . 05:18 < precise> JollyRgrs: pls confirm 05:18 <+DrGibby|> cryptic1: pls confirm 05:19 < precise> where da fuck r da ops? 05:19 <+DrGibby|> I NEED AN ADULT 05:19 < precise> MOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSss 05:19 < precise> SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 05:19 < precise> s/S/SSS 05:19 <+layer-eight> precise meant: "SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS" 05:20 <+DrGibby|> s/S/SSS 05:20 < precise> ... 05:20 < mkillebrew> doesn't work like that 05:20 < precise> s/S/SSSS 05:20 < precise> yessss it does 05:20 < precise> I just did it 05:20 < mkillebrew> s/[\w]/SSSS 05:20 <+layer-eight> precise meant: "SSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSS" 05:20 < mkillebrew> you're a snake now motherfucker 05:21 < precise> mkillebrew: I'm ok with this 05:23 < Sousapro> snekcloud 05:23 < Sousapro> The new snek client 05:23 <+DrGibby|> nazicloud 05:24 < Sousapro> Well I guess I'll just have to give in 05:25 * Sousapro puts on lederhosen and starts playing polka on tuba 05:25 < precise> wot 05:25 <+DrGibby|> Sousapro is being german 05:25 < precise> Sousapro: if u keep imitating JollyRgrs mum hes gun bant u 05:25 <+DrGibby|> or attempting to, anyway 05:26 < precise> ravioli ravioli where are the operonis 05:26 < Sousapro> I'm German American but I'm also 6'8" 320lbs 05:26 < Sousapro> So those lederhosen would have to be pretty big and I wouldn't look good in them 05:27 <+DrGibby|> heeeey fellow tall german fam 05:27 * Sousapro waves 05:27 * DrGibby| farts on Sousapro 05:28 < Sousapro> Things are back to normal 05:28 < Sousapro> Woo 05:28 <+DrGibby|> no, they're not 05:28 < precise> wrong 05:28 < precise> abbie normal 05:28 < Sousapro> I need to go to bed. I need to get a new headlight and seat installed tomorrow morning 05:29 < precise> S H I T P O S T 05:29 < precise> H 05:29 < precise> I 05:29 < precise> T 05:29 < precise> P 05:29 < precise> O 05:29 < precise> S 05:29 < precise> T 05:29 < Sousapro> Bant 05:29 < precise> nope 05:29 < precise> ops r dead 05:29 <+DrGibby|> I am surprised you didn't get killed 05:29 < Sousapro> Ops are bread 05:29 * precise eats the bread 05:30 <+DrGibby|> yeah but did you get a notice from a network bot about flooding? 05:30 < precise> IDK 05:30 < precise> Maybe? 05:30 < precise> Whatd it say? 05:30 <+DrGibby|> precise: check your server window 05:31 <+DrGibby|> is sigyn not here? 05:31 <+DrGibby|> HOLY SHIT 05:31 < precise> oh hi 05:31 < precise> lmao 05:31 <@JollyRgrs> :) 05:31 < precise> Glad I could summon one of ya 05:31 <@JollyRgrs> "what have I returned to?" 05:32 <@JollyRgrs> eh? 05:32 < precise> quoting the late great cryptic1 05:32 <@JollyRgrs> RIP 05:32 <@JollyRgrs> his life was so full of maple syrup, he was an insulin shock to us all 05:33 < precise> He left behind his pet Canadian Goose, Goosey 05:33 < Gibby> ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ 05:33 < Gibby> ░░░░░░░░░░░░▄▀▀▀▀▄░░░ 05:33 < Gibby> ░░░░░░░░░░▄▀░░▄░▄░█░░ 05:33 < Gibby> ░▄▄░░░░░▄▀░░░░▄▄▄▄█░░ 05:33 < Gibby> █░░▀▄░▄▀░░░░░░░░░░█░░ 05:33 < Gibby> ░▀▄░░▀▄░░░░█░░░░░░█░░ 05:33 < Gibby> ░░░▀▄░░▀░░░█░░░░░░█░░ 05:33 < Gibby> ░░░▄▀░░░░░░█░░░░▄▀░░░ 05:33 < Gibby> ░░░▀▄▀▄▄▀░░█▀░▄▀░░░░░ 05:33 < Gibby> ░░░░░░░░█▀▀█▀▀░░░░░░░ 05:33 < Gibby> ░░░░░░░░▀▀░▀▀░░░░░░░░ 05:33 < precise> To whom he has beqeathed all is worldly possessions 05:33 < precise> wot 05:34 < precise> inb4 Gibby klined 05:34 < Gibby> u wot m8 05:34 < precise> u havin a giggle there m8? 05:34 < sideup66> Gibby: thank ye 05:34 <+DrGibby|> sideup66: not a problem 05:34 <+DrGibby|> err 05:34 < Gibby> I mean, sideup66, not a problem 05:34 < Sousapro> Gibby: before you get klined, can I have your farting powers 05:34 < sideup66> What does this week represent 05:34 <+DrGibby|> Sousapro: no 05:35 < sideup66> Users downloading cryptolocker? 05:35 < sideup66> And keeping techs through the weekend? 05:35 <+DrGibby|> sure? 05:35 < sideup66> But don't we always wave dickbutt for a purpose on sat nights? 05:35 < Sousapro> Getting fisted by social engineering attempts that a cat could outsmart but not the secretary? 05:35 <+DrGibby|> nope 05:36 <+DrGibby|> outing nazis is good enough 05:36 <+DrGibby|> sideup66: dickbutts on sat's asre less common than friday nights 05:36 <+DrGibby|> err, s/asre/are 05:37 <+DrGibby|> and depending on availability of those who do it 05:37 < sideup66> But 05:37 < sideup66> They are rare dickbutt then 05:37 < sideup66> Like rare pep 05:38 < sideup66> Pepe 05:38 < Gibby> ____ _ _ __ __ ____ 05:38 < Gibby> | _ \| | | | \/ | __ ) 05:38 < Gibby> | | | | | | | |\/| | _ \ 05:38 < Gibby> | |_| | |_| | | | | |_) | 05:38 < Gibby> |____/ \___/|_| |_|____/ 05:38 < Gibby> 05:38 < Gibby> ____ ___ ____ _____ _ _ ____ __ __ 05:38 < Gibby> / ___|_ _| _ \| ____| | | | _ \ / /_ / /_ 05:38 < Gibby> \___ \| || | | | _| | | | | |_) | '_ \| '_ \ 05:38 < Gibby> ___) | || |_| | |___| |_| | __/| (_) | (_) | 05:38 < Gibby> |____/___|____/|_____|\___/|_| \___/ \___/ 05:38 <+DrGibby|> they are rare, yes 05:39 <+DrGibby|> which is why you should enjoy it when you can 05:39 < precise> lol 05:40 <+DrGibby|> I can do colors too, but r-s strips them :( 05:43 < precise> G O O D N I G H T M O T H E R F U C K E R S 05:43 < precise> O 05:43 < precise> O 05:43 < precise> D 05:43 < precise> N 05:43 < precise> I 05:43 < precise> G 05:43 < precise> H 05:43 < precise> T 05:43 < precise> 05:43 < precise> M 05:43 < precise> O 05:43 < precise> T 05:43 < precise> H 05:43 < precise> E 05:43 < precise> R 05:44 < precise> F 05:44 < precise> U 05:44 < precise> C 05:44 < precise> K 05:44 < precise> E 05:44 < precise> R 05:44 < precise> S 05:44 < precise> I can't believe no one interupted me 05:44 < precise> ... 05:44 < precise> but but 05:45 < precise> Gibby does that shit 05:45 < precise> and doesn't get the kick 05:45 < precise> y me? 05:45 < sideup66> Wow 05:45 < sideup66> How has precise and gibby not klined 05:45 < precise> IDEK 05:46 < precise> I was sorta testing the server at that point 05:46 < Kayofeld> because 28 current lines of the terminal have your name at the beginning I think 05:46 < Kayofeld> :D 05:46 < precise> Kayofeld: Hi 05:46 < Kayofeld> hi 05:46 < precise> Who r u? 05:47 < Kayofeld> I'm someone coming here twice a week 05:47 < precise> yeah? 05:47 < precise> y is that? 05:47 < Kayofeld> I saw light 05:47 < Kayofeld> I came in 05:47 < Kayofeld> :) 05:47 * DrGibby| shrugs 05:48 <@JollyRgrs> Kayofeld: wtf you think this is, motel 6? 05:48 <+DrGibby|> yes 05:48 < precise> JollyRgrs: lmfao 05:48 < rpifan> hi 05:48 < Kayofeld> JollyRgrs: it isn't ? :c 05:49 < Kayofeld> Oh, it's almost am 05:49 < Kayofeld> 6am* 05:50 < Kayofeld> bye 05:50 <@JollyRgrs> Kayofeld: why do you think you take a ho to a hotel? 05:50 < rpifan> Kayofeld, 05:50 <@JollyRgrs> ho tell everybody, even the mayor 05:50 < rpifan> r u in germany 05:50 <@JollyRgrs> reach up in the sky for the ho-zone layer 05:50 < precise> lol 05:50 < precise> ho-zone 05:50 <+DrGibby|> s/ho-zone/hoe-zone 05:50 < precise> fuckin hell guys 05:50 <+layer-eight> precise meant: "hoe-zone" 05:50 < precise> night 05:50 <+DrGibby|> god dammit 05:51 * DrGibby| is in the hoe-zone layer 05:54 <@JollyRgrs> this ain't no farmer party 05:54 <@JollyRgrs> can't turn a ho into a housewife 05:54 <@JollyRgrs> hoes don't act right 05:54 <@JollyRgrs> there's hoes on a mission 05:55 <@JollyRgrs> and there's hoes on a crackpipe 05:56 <+DrGibby|> uhhh ok 05:56 <+DrGibby|> you missed a great opportunity to promote farmersonly.com 06:00 < rpifan> lol 06:00 <+DrGibby|> rpifan knows all about that 06:02 < rpifan> im not a farmer 06:02 < rpifan> im a hoe 06:08 < DeVito> Nerds 06:17 <+DrGibby|> NERDS, IN THIS IRC? 06:18 < voidstar> where? 06:19 <+DrGibby|> THIS. IRC. 06:20 < voidstar> quick, /part the party is over 06:24 <+DrGibby|> I just had some drunk old dude-- well into his 60s?-- ask me if I was ok 06:24 <+DrGibby|> over and over 06:24 <+DrGibby|> yeah dude, I'm good, clearly you're not 06:29 <+DrGibby|> HOW CAN DISCONNECTING CONNECT? 06:29 < disconnecting> wouldnt you like to know 06:30 <+DrGibby|> I would 06:30 < disconnecting> it is a mystery wrapped in an enigma 06:30 <+DrGibby|> uh huh 06:32 < disconnecting> ancient chinese secret? 06:36 <+NinjaStyle> i think i am gonna buy a new desktop pc when start my new job 06:38 <+NinjaStyle> probably just buy a corsair one elite 06:44 <+NinjaStyle> WHERE IS EVERYONE 06:44 <+NinjaStyle> disconnecting: BEST FRIEND WHERE U AT 06:44 <+NinjaStyle> DrGibby|: !!! 06:44 <+NinjaStyle> voidstar: ??? 06:44 <+DrGibby|> between here and Pluto 06:44 < voidstar> ¿¿¿ 06:45 <+NinjaStyle> im excited for monday 06:52 < Casteil> why 06:52 <+DrGibby|> tonights livepd where they encounter a due with a machete is how envision all of t_d 06:52 < ned0> you are sick NinjaStyle 06:52 <+NinjaStyle> why 06:52 <+DrGibby|> s/due/dude 06:52 <+layer-eight> DrGibby| meant: "tonights livepd where they encounter a dude with a machete is how envision all of t_d" 06:52 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: im quitting my jab 06:52 < ned0> what kind of person is "Excited for monday" 06:52 < voidstar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlLMlJ2tDkg 06:52 <+layer-eight> YouTube Owen Wilson Says WOW by 2015-05-09T08:18:04.000Z (duration: 2:36) on Sat May 09 15:18:04 UTC 2015, 2015-05-09T08:18:04.000Z views 06:53 < ned0> NinjaStyle :/ 06:53 <+NinjaStyle> ned0: im basically getting a 60% pay bunp so its a good thing 06:53 < ned0> hopefully for greener pastures 06:53 <+NinjaStyle> vump* 06:53 < ned0> oh nice 06:53 <+NinjaStyle> bump* 06:53 < ned0> congrats 06:53 <+DrGibby|> wow 06:54 <+NinjaStyle> then i can buy a corsair one 06:54 <+NinjaStyle> lol 06:55 <+DrGibby|> Wow! 06:56 < Casteil> 60% pay bump, god dayum 06:56 <+NinjaStyle> yeah its gonna be cool 06:57 < Casteil> wtf changed to get that kind of a bump? 06:57 <+NinjaStyle> nothing changed 06:57 <+NinjaStyle> i just got an offer 06:57 <+DrGibby|> Casteil: work in a good field ;) 06:58 < Casteil> Casteil: im quitting my jab < Oh, I missed the one line directed to me 06:58 <+DrGibby|> wot? 06:59 < Casteil> well that's not at all sketchy 06:59 <+NinjaStyle> why sketchy? 07:00 <+DrGibby|> Casteil: could be NinjaStyle has underpaid? 07:00 < Casteil> car stopping by mailboxes at 1am.. 07:00 <+DrGibby|> s/has/is 07:00 <+layer-eight> DrGibby| meant: "Casteil: could be NinjaStyle is underpaid?" 07:00 <+NinjaStyle> i am 07:00 <+DrGibby|> as most of us are 07:00 <+NinjaStyle> yeah 07:00 <+DrGibby|> I am by about 100k 07:00 <+DrGibby|> but whatever] 07:00 < Casteil> ^ lol. 07:01 <+NinjaStyle> although to be honest, this new offer is definitely making me feel imposter syndrome 07:01 < Casteil> info sec stuff again? 07:01 <+NinjaStyle> same job 07:01 <+NinjaStyle> jst fully remote 07:01 < Casteil> oh nice 07:02 < Casteil> I'm not exactly sure what "same job" entails 07:02 < Casteil> I just know that you did some information security stuff 07:02 <+NinjaStyle> consultant penetration testing 07:03 <+NinjaStyle> gonna be senior consultant though, so its a title improvement as well 07:08 <+DrGibby|> NinjaStyle: I think I know why I thought things were weird 07:08 <+NinjaStyle> why/ 07:08 <+DrGibby|> I'm more/less a C-level 07:08 <+DrGibby|> and for someone to talk down to me was upsetting 07:09 <+NinjaStyle> he jusst tries to gauge people 07:09 <+DrGibby|> I gotcha 07:10 < disconnecting> people and their power politics are a joke 07:10 <+NinjaStyle> i think generally he does a decent job of testing for personality compatibility, but sometimes i think he gets it wrong 07:10 < disconnecting> just let them play their little game 07:10 < Casteil> lol what a creep... cat comes up on my deck, sets off my motion light, so I go down and look 07:10 < Casteil> cat's staring at me through my sliding door 07:10 < disconnecting> next...you 07:11 <+DrGibby|> NinjaStyle: I think our experiences mirror each other so I'm not too worried 07:11 <+NinjaStyle> yeah 07:11 < Casteil> as much as I'd like to see a huge pay increase 07:11 < Casteil> it's probably not likely 07:12 <+DrGibby|> sure it is 07:12 <+DrGibby|> find the org 07:12 <+NinjaStyle> the trick is to never stop pushing it 07:12 < Casteil> I might get 10% this year; my 2yr mark will be in about a month 07:12 <+DrGibby|> 'its possible 07:12 < Casteil> boss offered to pay for a CAPM (junior PMP basically) certification 07:13 < Casteil> been sorta dragging my feet getting crackin' on the learning, but it's spring and I've had a decent amount to do around the house after work 07:14 <+NinjaStyle> having technical PMs is such a benefit 07:14 < Casteil> that's where the imposter syndrome comes in 07:14 < Casteil> I'm not great at coding from scratch 07:15 <+NinjaStyle> thats ok 07:15 <+NinjaStyle> everyone has gaps 07:15 < Casteil> I can go in and diagnose/fix issues pretty proficiently, but mainly I just sorta analyze the business & gather/define requirements, and do documentation/QA 07:16 < Casteil> keeping a good balance of security/accountability/usability in mind for requirements 07:16 <+NinjaStyle> im doing CISSP currently to fill some of my gaps in risk management and CISO lingo 07:16 < Casteil> nice, I'd love cissp but the barrier to entry is 07:17 < Casteil> https://media.tenor.com/images/6d77d69c61103812630d8ee27f55a4a7/tenor.png 07:17 <+NinjaStyle> its not very hard, you just need a sponsor 07:17 < Casteil> hell even CRISC is kinda high 07:17 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: afaik you still need a minimum of X years of experience 07:18 < Casteil> CRISC requirements: A minimum of at least three (3) years of cumulative work experience performing the tasks of a CRISC professional across at least two (2) of the four (4) CRISC domains is required for certification. Of these two (2) required domains, one (1) must be in either Domain 1 or 2. There are no substitutions or experience waivers. 07:18 <+NinjaStyle> yeah but its not hard to meet that req 07:18 < Casteil> I'll qualify for CRISC in about a year technically 07:18 < Casteil> (or less I guess) 07:19 < Casteil> At least five years of cumulative, paid, full-time work experience 07:19 < Casteil> ^ for CISSP 07:19 < Casteil> in 2 or more of the 8 domains of CISSP BoK 07:20 <+NinjaStyle> ive been in IT for 10 years so i can def bs 5 years 07:20 < Casteil> yeah not quite the case for me hehe 07:20 < Casteil> I only just got my foot in the door recently 07:20 <+NinjaStyle> ah :) 07:20 <+NinjaStyle> i work with a few CISSPs as well, so i have a few sponsor options 07:20 < Casteil> so I suppose, considering that, having been point on this project for more than the last year and still having a job must mean I'm doing alright :P 07:21 <+NinjaStyle> :P 07:21 < Casteil> but yeah the project management 'body of knowledge' will probably help 07:21 <+NinjaStyle> yeah def 07:21 < Casteil> there's some irrelevant chapters in here for drawing contracts and shit I don't need, but some of it is good 07:21 < voidstar> did yall work up from hell desk or come out of uni into a more technical position? 07:22 < Casteil> stakeholder management, risk management/response, etc 07:22 <+NinjaStyle> voidstar: i started as a site technician 07:22 < Casteil> voidstar: I uh, had kind of a weird start 07:22 <@JollyRgrs> voidstar: most ppl, even if you graduate from uni... get to start at helldesk 07:22 < voidstar> aha 07:22 <@JollyRgrs> tbh, 1-2 yrs doing desktop support is actually good experience, no matter if you're more network or more sysadmin inclined 07:22 <+NinjaStyle> i was basically helldesk but on-site support instead of phone 07:23 < voidstar> I'm in community college, but am doing freelance tech support for businesses in the area 07:23 < Casteil> I worked for like 6 months as a "computer science contractor" at a startup electrical engineering company, then a year or two after that I started at my current company as "IT support" but it was more like IT support + junior sysadmin 07:23 <@JollyRgrs> voidstar: there's basically two routes, no matter what you wanna do 07:23 <@JollyRgrs> well... 3 07:23 <@JollyRgrs> MSP is the third i forgot about 07:23 < voidstar> desktop support and some network management generally 07:23 <@JollyRgrs> other than that, you either go SMB and do the lonewolf IT tech 07:23 <+NinjaStyle> JollyRgrs: or military 07:23 < Casteil> then I started providing requirements to a contracted developer on this in-house software project about 14 months ago and here I am now hehe 07:23 <@JollyRgrs> or you go enterprise and see how things work with ITIL and all that fun stuff 07:24 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: i guess? lol 07:24 <+NinjaStyle> JollyRgrs: a bunch at my work started in military 07:24 <@JollyRgrs> i've had that, too 07:24 <@JollyRgrs> i'm in a huge military town 07:24 <@JollyRgrs> my prev job, if you were ex military, boss hired you almost no matter what 07:24 <@JollyRgrs> :( 07:24 <+NinjaStyle> yeah, plus a lot of mil people start out at a "sysadmin" in the militaru 07:24 < Casteil> I like small business, not as much pressure or metrics crap to measure up to :X 07:24 <+NinjaStyle> military* 07:24 <+NinjaStyle> so the transition is easier 07:25 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: metrics to measure up to? 07:25 < voidstar> yeah, I really enjoy what I do 07:25 <@JollyRgrs> what kinda sysadmin are you doing? 07:25 <@JollyRgrs> enterprise you have to worry more about when to reboot a server 07:25 < Casteil> JollyRgrs: big companies often tend to be heavy on metrics 07:25 <@JollyRgrs> can't just reboot (any) server during the day 07:25 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: not for sysadmin work 07:25 < Casteil> "Oh you didn't close your quota of 39 tickets today? that's a paddlin" 07:26 <@JollyRgrs> maybe for mgmt 07:26 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: tickets? what are those? 07:26 <@JollyRgrs> helldesk does tickets 07:26 <+NinjaStyle> a lot of companies have higher ups with a hard-on for almost any metric 07:26 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, sometimes sysadmins get tickets, but they aren't many and usually moreso to track issues or server downtimes... not piling up in your queue 07:27 <+NinjaStyle> like ticket count, or uptime, or survey results 07:27 <@JollyRgrs> and usually it is a group queue, not specific indiv. 07:27 <@JollyRgrs> well, survey results are a given 07:27 <@JollyRgrs> lol 07:27 < Casteil> I set up some fancy issue charts and basic time tracking in jira to sate my company owner and boss's desire for extra visibility 07:27 < Casteil> didn't like it initially but now that it's in place it's not a big deal 07:27 <@JollyRgrs> at the hospital it was making sure there weren't work stoppages 07:28 <@JollyRgrs> but srsly, so SMB, you can just bounce a server mid-day, especially if you know "no one will probably notice" 07:28 <@JollyRgrs> you made a change and it broke something? you can just change it back right quick, no need for an urgent or emergency change request 07:28 <+NinjaStyle> yeah thats true usually, esp in govt 07:28 <@JollyRgrs> no need to go to the tribunal for your solution before you apply it 07:28 < Casteil> hehe 07:28 <@JollyRgrs> srsly 07:28 <@JollyRgrs> that part sucks 07:29 <@JollyRgrs> but it also makes sense (if done right) 07:29 <+NinjaStyle> though in legal thats not the case sadly 07:29 < Casteil> we do fairly often deploy production updates morning/midday 07:29 <@JollyRgrs> legal is an oddball 07:29 <@JollyRgrs> more like an SMB, but they work them hard and have high expectations 07:29 < Casteil> we haven't fubar'd anything yet >.> 07:29 <+NinjaStyle> legal was the most stressfuljob i ever had 07:29 <@JollyRgrs> i've talked with others in legal and heard similar 07:29 <@JollyRgrs> i don't ever want to work for them 07:29 <@JollyRgrs> however, hospital isn't so bad 07:29 <@JollyRgrs> but if it was an indiv. practice... not so much, it has to be a big hospital 07:30 < Casteil> legal - I can't imagine the people would be nice to work with 07:30 < Casteil> lawyers can often be pricks 07:30 <@JollyRgrs> some are 07:30 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: it varies 07:30 < voidstar> I support a lawyer, but it's a solo practitioner so.. 07:30 <@JollyRgrs> some are very ncie 07:30 <+NinjaStyle> some are cool as fuck some are huge assholes 07:30 <@JollyRgrs> but the ones that are pricks, really let you know that 07:30 <+NinjaStyle> i think generally the more important ones are less assholes than the ones who are trying to prove themselves 07:31 <@JollyRgrs> voidstar: when you have many ppl working on a case and sharing files, etc... and supporting their corel WordPerfect templates and add-ons... 07:31 <@JollyRgrs> that's where it sucks 07:31 <+NinjaStyle> so like you have a partner making 500k+/yr being cool while the dickhead associate is riding your ass making like 140k/yr 07:31 < Casteil> my company owns a bunch of boat dealerships so shit's pretty chill 07:31 < voidstar> all lawyers know how to put the screws to someone, but the ones who aren't unhinged know who not to put the screws to 07:31 <@JollyRgrs> IPoCB? 07:32 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: do you do IP over CB? :P 07:33 <@JollyRgrs> welp, dog needs to go outside and i need to go to sleep 07:33 <@JollyRgrs> goodnight 07:33 <+NinjaStyle> night 07:33 < Casteil> I might get a dog once I redo the floors in my house :X 07:33 < voidstar> I'm out too, need to get get assignments done tomorrow 07:34 < Casteil> gotta ditch this carpet 07:34 <+NinjaStyle> voidstar: go to school 07:34 < Casteil> particularly on the main floor 07:34 < voidstar> discrete mathematics can lick my butthole 07:34 <+NinjaStyle> voidstar: prove it 07:35 < Casteil> it can't, but I get the drift 07:35 < voidstar> let B = {j | is my butthole} 07:35 < Casteil> I rocked a 4.0 in college until my math started 07:35 < Casteil> my math started with calculus and got worse from there 07:36 < voidstar> since DM sucks => DM licks 07:37 < Casteil> linear algebra, vector calc, differential equations 07:37 < Casteil> and all sorts of other nasty phrases 07:37 < voidstar> I failed second semester calc 1 and thought I could get a confidence boost from DM 07:37 < voidstar> fuck I was wrong 07:38 < voidstar> still passing, and the semester is almost over though 07:38 < Casteil> I didn't fail but I didn't do well lol 07:39 < voidstar> I started focusing on work a bit more this semester, and it's a moral boost so there's that 07:39 < Casteil> it was kinda rough for me partly because I had to work too 07:40 * Casteil needs to buckle down on PMBOK / CAPM 07:40 < voidstar> o/ 07:51 < Gencade> Hi guys 07:54 * Gencade needs to sleep 07:55 <+NinjaStyle> hi 07:55 < Gencade> blow me NinjaStyle 07:55 <+NinjaStyle> :( 07:55 < Casteil> heyyyy 07:56 < Gencade> hay Casteil 07:56 < Casteil> oh speaking of 07:56 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: ever had Left hand milk stout? 07:56 <+NinjaStyle> yeah 07:56 < Casteil> if you like it, you should try Dragon's Milk and Founder's Breakfast Sout 07:56 < Casteil> Stout* 07:57 < Casteil> both a good deal more fortified than left hand milk stout 07:57 <+NinjaStyle> nice, i honestly rarely drink stouts 07:57 <+NinjaStyle> but my wife like them 07:57 < mkillebrew> Do you get your dragon's milk at bad dragon, too? 07:58 < Gencade> I am so drunk 07:58 < Gencade> DrGibby|, 07:58 < Gencade> DrGibby|, 07:58 < Gencade> DrGibby|, 07:58 < Casteil> mkillebrew: Only person who buys shit from bad dragon is you broo 07:59 < Casteil> I wish my sig p365 would hurry up and ship 07:59 < Casteil> Brownells probably has like 2000 of them backordered thanks to their price/coupon 08:00 < mkillebrew> meh 08:00 < plop> morning 08:00 < mkillebrew> striker junk 08:00 < Casteil> ur face is junk 08:00 < mkillebrew> you can always compromise, get a Spectre like mine: https://imgur.com/a/Sh2Zs 08:01 < mkillebrew> glockteen-eleven 08:01 < Casteil> that looks like trash 08:01 < Casteil> and what the fuck is with that lock? 08:01 < mkillebrew> integrated trigger lock 08:01 <+NinjaStyle> i might buy a glock soon 08:01 < mkillebrew> non-pivoting 1911-like trigger, grip safety, and manual safety. 08:02 * Casteil peddles sig p320 to NinjaStyle 08:02 < mkillebrew> my G17 slide fits on it but obviously doesn't function 08:02 < mkillebrew> clearly wasn't a commercial success. 08:03 < Casteil> actually there's a site that has the M&P M2.0 compact with 3 mags and tritium sights for $420 right now 08:03 < Casteil> http://www.peakfirearms.com/index.php/firearms/handguns/smith-wesson/s-w-m-p-9-m2-0-compact-tritium-night-sights-thumb-safety-le.html 08:04 < mkillebrew> but then you'll end up with an M&P 08:04 < Casteil> damn good price 08:04 < mkillebrew> When you go shopping, do you also only buy what's on sale? 08:04 < Casteil> if I didn't already have a sig p365 on order I might consider it 08:04 < Casteil> but I also already have a holster for a Sig P320 compact that I don't yet own haha 08:04 <+NinjaStyle> i wanna get a glock 43 08:05 < Casteil> you should weigh it against the p365 and the M&P shield 08:05 < Casteil> p365 is smaller and mags hold 3 more rounds. 08:05 <+NinjaStyle> i dont like the feel of the m&p 08:05 <+NinjaStyle> and i already own 2 sigs 08:05 < Casteil> and you want a glocknade? >.> 08:05 <+NinjaStyle> seems more concealable and less heavy 08:05 < Casteil> p365 is new 08:06 < Casteil> https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p365-nitron-micro-compact.html < smaller, lighter and higher capacity than the G43 :P 08:06 <+NinjaStyle> i kinda like the idea of polymer for conceal carry 08:06 < Casteil> just a hair lighter 08:06 < Casteil> polymer makes the most sense for carry of course 08:06 <+NinjaStyle> wat sig making a polymer frame 08:07 < Casteil> o_o 08:07 < Casteil> what rock have you been living under 08:07 <+NinjaStyle> idk, both of my sigs are full steel 08:07 < Casteil> https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p320-nitron-compact.html 08:07 < Casteil> another polymer, 15rd mag 08:08 < Casteil> (in 9mm anyway) 08:08 < mkillebrew> SIGs aren't steel frames, they're aluminum 08:08 < Casteil> that's the one I ordered the holster for but haven't actually bought the gun yet haha 08:08 < Casteil> mkillebrew: some are 08:09 < mkillebrew> which 08:09 < Casteil> https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p226-stainless-elite-full-size.html 08:10 < mkillebrew> Oh right, forgot they did stainless 08:12 <+NinjaStyle> i think my 938 is aluminium 08:12 <+NinjaStyle> but im pretty sure the 226 is steel 08:12 < Casteil> anyway NinjaStyle - the p365 is kind of a game changer since it's smaller than most subcompacts available and has 3 more rounds than any of them 08:12 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: i'll have to check it out when i am shopping 08:12 < Casteil> if I went for a sig steelie it'd probably be a p229 08:13 <+NinjaStyle> yeah the 229 is nice 08:13 < Gencade> go to bed #r-s 08:13 < Casteil> p365 is in short supply though 08:13 < Casteil> lots of demand and they haven't been able to keep up with it 08:13 <+NinjaStyle> my 226 is in .40 and still feels snappy in a heavy gun 08:13 < Casteil> rather, not a 'steelie', but a metal frame 08:13 <+NinjaStyle> if i got a 229 i would def get it in 9 mm 08:14 < Casteil> yeah, I don't have any non 9mm handguns 08:14 < Casteil> 9mm will get the job done 08:14 <+NinjaStyle> i dont mind the feel of .45 either 08:14 < Casteil> I don't like the sacrifice in capacity 08:14 < Gencade> NinjaStyle, hi 08:15 <+NinjaStyle> Gencade: hi 08:15 < Gencade> no but I wish I was 08:15 < Gencade> HAAAAAAAA' 08:15 <+NinjaStyle> hello 08:15 < Casteil> subcompact 45 will generally limit you to about the same number of rounds as a revolver 08:15 <+MillerBOSS> olleH 08:15 < Casteil> at which point you might as well carry a damn revolver 08:15 < Casteil> stfu MillerBOSS 08:15 <+NinjaStyle> yeah i wouldnt get a subcompact in anything but 9mm 08:16 <+NinjaStyle> but for a full sized pistol i wouldnt mind .45 08:17 < Casteil> I do like my M&P shield; I haven't had a single failure 08:17 <+MillerBOSS> Casteil is triggered 08:17 < Casteil> but... now the p365 has come along with stock tritium night sights, a smaller overall size, and a frickin 10 round magazine 08:18 < Casteil> blows my mind they managed to make something smaller yet have more mag capacity 08:18 <+NinjaStyle> double stack i assume? 08:18 < Casteil> sorta, yeah 08:19 <+NinjaStyle> so probably thicker than a glock 43 08:19 < Casteil> nope 08:19 <+NinjaStyle> how? 08:19 < Casteil> some fancy engineering shit 08:19 <+NinjaStyle> hm 08:19 < mkillebrew> gypsy magic 08:19 < Casteil> ^^^^^^ 08:20 <+NinjaStyle> rewatching westworld, this show is so good 08:20 < Casteil> they're virtually identical width wise, but the p365 is a hair taller and like .4" shorter 08:21 < mkillebrew> you're .4" shorter. 08:21 < Casteil> .4" less long, rather lol 08:27 < Casteil> well... sleep time 08:27 < Casteil> also, lol @ glock still using flash 08:28 <+MillerBOSS> Go to bed Casteil 08:30 < Casteil> don't tell me how to live my life 08:30 < Casteil> but ok 08:37 < mkillebrew> glock is terrible at everything 08:39 < vader-> i have a P320 full and I like it 08:39 < vader-> but i don't carry 08:39 < vader-> if i was carrying i would need the compact 08:40 < mkillebrew> no you wouldn't 08:40 < vader-> y? 08:40 < mkillebrew> only fatties need compacts because their love handles get in the way 08:40 < vader-> the full is rather big 08:42 < vader-> i would probably get the compact with safety 08:43 <+NinjaStyle> mkillebrew: its an issue of printing 08:44 <+NinjaStyle> you dont want it to be obvious you have a gun in your waistband 08:45 < mkillebrew> compacts don't print less, they just have a shorter grip and barrel 08:47 <+NinjaStyle> lol 09:30 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh 09:30 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Backbone Scoliosis 09:30 <+MillerBOSS> Ohhh thats bad 09:30 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh 09:30 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: We're on Token Ring, and it looks like the token got loose. 09:31 < Adagio> .bofh 09:31 <+layer-eight> Adagio, BOFH says: The ring needs another token 09:32 < Adagio> HAHAHAHA 09:32 < Adagio> Love it. 09:35 <+MillerBOSS> Whats up over there in Adagio's land? 09:36 < Adagio> Adagio's land is humid. 09:36 < Adagio> I need to open a window or something. 09:36 <+MillerBOSS> I forgot where that is. I think FL or South Cali 09:37 < Adagio> 1) Completely wrong; 2) quite close, actually 09:37 < Adagio> NorCal -- San Francisco. 09:37 <+MillerBOSS> It gets humid there? 09:37 < Adagio> Nah, I'm trying too hard to be funny again 09:38 <+MillerBOSS> Well I laughed 09:38 <+MillerBOSS> :P 09:38 < Adagio> Thanks, I'll be here all night, try the hors d'oeuvres 09:38 <+MillerBOSS> Sure. I will be here all night and day 09:39 < Adagio> All nighters? Pfft, I'm too old for that shit. 09:39 <+MillerBOSS> Nah I slept from 8am till 11pm 09:40 <+MillerBOSS> Watching https://www.twitch.tv/eenpanda 09:40 < Adagio> Sounds like a time. 09:44 <+MillerBOSS> Kinda yeah. Also trying to figure out what to do. I want to make something 09:45 < Adagio> Spin up a VM, `hub clone sovereign/sovereign` on your main, and let fly 09:45 < Adagio> I _want_ to do it but I'll feel dirty unless I know how every part works first 09:46 <+MillerBOSS> What is that Adagio ? 09:46 < Adagio> https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign 09:46 < Adagio> I assumed `hub clone` was enough of a clue 09:47 <+MillerBOSS> Interesting. Not for me. I need to learn Ansible 09:47 <+MillerBOSS> Correct? 09:47 < Adagio> I do too. 09:49 <+A-KO> meh, when you only ever have 2 servers to build for stuff automation tools are a complete waste of over engineering 09:49 <+A-KO> IMO 09:50 < Adagio> Seemed like a grab-'n-go solution at first glance, honestly. I have yet to play with it in depth, though. 09:55 <+MillerBOSS> This is helpful https://github.com/streamlink/streamlink-twitch-gui 10:01 < vader-> any of you take Azure exams? 10:06 <+MillerBOSS> Whats stopping ya vader- ? 10:06 < vader-> i might actually try and take one next monday (30th) so i can get in on that discount deal 10:06 < vader-> i have a tight schedule with some stuff going on from not till saturday 10:07 < vader-> so i might have to use sat/sun/mon (morning/afternoon) and take the test in the evening 10:07 < vader-> to cram 10:07 <+MillerBOSS> You want to do the exam for a job? 10:08 < vader-> well im unemployed 10:08 < vader-> trying to find Azure or AWS work 10:09 < vader-> everyone wants to see the cert 10:09 <+MillerBOSS> Oh still. I didn't realize you still were 10:09 < vader-> ya :-( 10:09 < vader-> well, i got lucky and picked up some crontract work 10:09 < vader-> but that is over 10:10 < vader-> so im able to survive for a few more months and then i gotta start bringing in the bacon again 10:10 < vader-> or ill be homeless 10:11 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah :P 10:23 < vader-> ya i was hoping it would of been easier to get a gig by now 10:26 <+MillerBOSS> When push comes to shove I am sure you'll figure it out, right? 10:29 < vader-> hehe ive been pushing 10:29 < vader-> right now the pieces that haven't fit are salary and location 10:29 < vader-> everything is over an hour away commute each way 10:29 < vader-> and then salary wise i always seem to be asking a tad bit over what they are looking to pay 11:11 <+MillerBOSS> Hang in there eh 13:10 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh 13:10 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Trojan horse ran out of hay 13:31 < czarbomba> millerboss why were you up all night 13:31 < czarbomba> are you on the llello now 13:32 <+MillerBOSS> I was stuck in the quarry again. 13:33 < czarbomba> i'll have to talk to the guy at the gate 13:33 <+MillerBOSS> You better. 13:33 <+MillerBOSS> Slept from 8am till 11pm ish 13:33 < czarbomba> someone shot up a waffle house and then ran away naked 13:34 <+MillerBOSS> Yeah just heard that listening tot he Fox News Briefing 13:34 <+MillerBOSS> I usually listen to that and NPR news briefing 13:35 <+MillerBOSS> They almost exactly the same though. 13:35 <+MillerBOSS> Bought an Echo from Best Buy Friday night with my Best Buy rewards. 13:35 <+MillerBOSS> How was Super Troopers 2? 13:35 < czarbomba> well the difference is the fox news briefing has already blamed it on islam, feminism and "the libs" 13:35 <+MillerBOSS> :P 13:36 < czarbomba> NPR is like "we'll wait to make any determinations until six years after the trial ends" 13:36 < czarbomba> if you podcast or use streaming for news, reuters is excellent 13:37 <+MillerBOSS> Sure but I mean when I drive home I usually say Siri tell me the news from Fox News then after that Siri tell me the news from NPR and the headlines are usually the same 13:37 < czarbomba> if they were eligible for a pulitzer for investigative journalism they would have stolen the investigative prize from WaPo easily 13:37 < czarbomba> for the myanmar reporting 13:37 < czarbomba> steal a news organization's reporters, don't be surprised if they double down and report the shit out of it 13:38 < czarbomba> especially a pre-eminent one with global reach 13:38 < czarbomba> oh good a southern sheriff's deputy handcuffed a 6 year old autistic kid 13:39 < czarbomba> lol a postman in dyker heights brooklyn has been stealing mail since 2005 13:39 < czarbomba> everyone i know still in bklyn is probably all like SEE I TOLD YOU I DIDN'T GET THAT NOTICE IN THE MAIL this morning 13:40 < baudlord> so, lonely weekend shift here and nothing's catching fire, anyone got some simple games I could play to pass the time? 13:41 <+MillerBOSS> ・ ​ ゜゜・。。・゜゜\_0<​ FLAP FLA​P! 13:41 < czarbomba> tired of clicking cookie? 13:41 < czarbomba> lol 13:42 < czarbomba> if you put the duck hunt script on the bot it'll be perma -v before the end of the hour 13:42 < baudlord> czarbomba playing kitten game as cookieclicker rn lol 13:47 < L3gacy> Morning, peeps, admins, weebs 13:47 <+MillerBOSS> How was Super Troopers 2? czarbomba 13:48 < L3gacy> Anyone here use MintSim.com for cellular? 13:48 < czarbomba> i remember enjoying the hell out of it. i also think i need to go watch it again. memory's a little hazy. 13:49 < L3gacy> I hate waking up to acid reflux :( 13:50 < Gencade> ` 13:50 < Gencade> go to fucking sleep MillerBOSS 13:50 <+MillerBOSS> Sure. Later today 13:51 < L3gacy> just saw I can get 10GB 4gLTE for $25 :) 13:53 < czarbomba> through which company? 13:53 < L3gacy> mintsim.com 13:53 < czarbomba> tmo is still doing $50 for 10gb 4g 13:53 < czarbomba> never heard of 'em 13:53 < czarbomba> are they regional? 13:53 < L3gacy> It's paid by 3 month increments 13:54 < L3gacy> they have full US coverage 13:54 < L3gacy> using GSM/4GLTE 13:54 < czarbomba> neat 13:54 < L3gacy> just need to unlock your 4G/GSM phone for their carrier 13:54 < L3gacy> just hit their site :) 13:55 < czarbomba> my phone's already unlocked (and it's gsm) 13:55 <+MillerBOSS> My foot is GSM too 13:55 < czarbomba> ugh this rain is putting a damper on my beach plans 13:55 * czarbomba inserts a SIM card into millerboss's foot and makes a call 13:56 <+MillerBOSS> BOOOM tuck acting tinactin 13:56 <+MillerBOSS> s/tuck/tuff 13:56 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "BOOOM tuff acting tinactin" 13:56 < Sousapro> czarbomba: do you have a business at all? 13:57 < Sousapro> Teltik is pretty cheap for TMobile service 13:57 <+MillerBOSS> Gencade is like what does that mean 13:57 <+MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJHIFiD3Na8 13:57 <+layer-eight> YouTube 1994 Tinactin Commercial #1 With John Madden by 2011-10-28T09:32:14.000Z (duration: 16s) on Fri Oct 28 16:32:14 UTC 2011, 2011-10-28T09:32:14.000Z views 13:58 < czarbomba> i love how schumacher had the top 2 driver+constructor pole position record 13:58 < czarbomba> when you're good enough to break the record twice 14:06 < catbeard> so like every store i go into in philippines mall 14:06 < catbeard> they're like my friend she's very single, she loves ed sheeran 14:06 <+MillerBOSS> Is named SM 14:06 < catbeard> (meaning that i look like ed sheeran) 14:06 < catbeard> ya SM actually 14:07 <+MillerBOSS> San Miguel 14:07 < catbeard> yep 14:07 <+MillerBOSS> You are in Philippines? 14:07 < catbeard> yup 14:07 <+MillerBOSS> How come? 14:07 < catbeard> work 14:10 < catbeard> wasn't even at a bar 14:10 < catbeard> was at a shoe store, and i was like sweating bullets already, but i mean i guess there's no accounting for taste 14:11 < catbeard> i'd say i'm a ladies man but i don't think i got it like that, pretty sure it was a solicitation 14:12 < czarbomba> you're a ginger in the philippines? 14:12 < czarbomba> holy shit you are going to clean up 14:13 < catbeard> lmfaaaaao 14:13 < czarbomba> gonna need a regular appointment for VD testing 14:14 < catbeard> shit i should be working the bar lol 14:16 < czarbomba> one of the guys who went to costa rica with us when i worked in engineering years ago was a ginger. he was surrounded by local girls every time we went out 14:16 < czarbomba> it was amazing and also a little frustrating 14:16 < catbeard> "how the fuck did you do that... asshole" 14:17 < catbeard> i have that effect i guess 14:17 < catbeard> blue eyes 14:18 < catbeard> i guess that's what "no charge" meant as i was walking around 14:19 < catbeard> /nick misseur_steal_yo_girl 14:26 < czarbomba> catbeard goes to utah and everyone's all like "hide yo wife, hide yo other wife, hide yo OTHER wife" 14:27 < catbeard> ^ 14:31 < L3gacy> I have gigabit fios, and for the past week I cant break 300/300... ugh.. any ideas, my friends? 14:33 * czarbomba slaps the shit out of l3gacy's humblebragging 14:33 < czarbomba> OH WOE IS ME 300/300 INTERNETS 14:33 < L3gacy> I'm being serious 14:33 * czarbomba throws l3gacy down the quarry 14:33 < L3gacy> Verizon says there are no issues. No device can break 300 on a gigabit link 14:33 < czarbomba> no idea. verizon won't come near my city with fiber :( 14:34 < czarbomba> could be duplex settings? 14:34 < czarbomba> try forcing 1000/full everywhere maybe 14:42 < czarbomba> COTA has a problem with track limits at turn 19 14:42 < czarbomba> GP cars and bikes both going waaaay off with no penalty 14:46 < czarbomba> looks like the sea breeze is blowing the shitty weather inland 14:46 < czarbomba> maybe there will be decent beach time later 14:47 < czarbomba> ^lots of that with any luck 15:06 < plop> anyone tried logitech videoconference systems? 15:06 < plop> any recomendations for a meeting room? 15:10 < Gencade> MillerBOSS, what u want 15:11 < Gencade> You saying I don't know the difference between gsm and cdma? 15:12 < XV8> Does anyone use SuperMicro 1028U or 1028GT servers? I am trying to find out what type of SFPs I'm going to need but of course the documentation sucks ass. It lists that some models support up to 10GBase-T on copper but naturally they don't list my models on their docs or have a product page on their site for these models specifically 15:12 < Gencade> Never done any work on those modelsm sorry. 15:13 < XV8> Correction: 1028GT-TR* 15:18 < XV8> I just don't want to exhaust my supply of 10GBase-T SFPs if I don't need to. They didnt even tell me what the bandwidth requirements for these boxes were. 15:39 < czarbomba> [08:34:40] try forcing 1000/full everywhere maybe [08:39:29] *** L3gacy quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15:39 < czarbomba> i hope i didn't perma-break l3gacy's network :O 15:46 < L3gacy> It's official. I have NO COAX on my ONT. It's gotten cooked by the last wave of brownouts. Wont do full duplex either 15:46 < L3gacy> Verizon coming out tomorrow 15:59 < czarbomba> did millerboss finally fall asleep to the sweet strains of the adult contemporary pop band "train"? 15:59 < czarbomba> l3gacy so i partially diagnosed a connection i've never even seen? 16:01 < L3gacy> yus 16:01 < L3gacy> swapped cat6a cables, too. still no joy 16:02 < czarbomba> i am so good i sometimes scare myself. 16:02 < czarbomba> in comcast world they'd be out next wednesday 16:03 < L3gacy> Comcast can choke on a rotten dick 16:03 < czarbomba> +++ 16:03 < L3gacy> Swears I never returned my gigabit modem, but I have the receipt. They said the # is invalid 16:05 < czarbomba> lol. yeah, you faked a receipt. using your totally feasible receipt printer 16:05 < L3gacy> yup 16:05 < L3gacy> I disputed the charge of... 16:05 < L3gacy> wait for it.... 16:05 < L3gacy> 450.00 16:05 < czarbomba> i've had equipment troubles with them. i actually took a photo of the comcast guy who came to bring back the equipment after i fired them 16:06 < czarbomba> "oh you don't think i gave back the box and modem? how'd i get this picture of your guy with them in his hands then?" 16:06 < L3gacy> Photoshop 16:06 < czarbomba> lol $450 for any cpe ever 16:06 < L3gacy> Pics or it happened 16:06 < L3gacy> :) 16:06 < genr8_> says you're in camden 16:07 < L3gacy> vineland 16:07 < genr8_> k 16:07 < genr8_> i was about to question your sanity 16:07 < L3gacy> I need to install Winders 2012R2...today 16:07 < L3gacy> ugh 16:14 < XV8> Turns out I didn't have any SFPs for these boxes anyway. Looks like my job is done. 16:21 < genr8_> PSUs ? what model do you usualy get 16:24 < czarbomba> sounds like the first legit thunderstorm of the year is inbound 16:28 < czarbomba> holy shit thunderstorms for the next 3 days 16:28 < czarbomba> "sunshine state" my ass 16:37 < czarbomba> $105 for a refurb dell replacement battery for a 10+ year old laptop 16:37 < czarbomba> kek 16:57 < baudlord> refurb them yourself 16:57 < baudlord> crack them open, buy cells, put new cells, glue them up 16:57 < baudlord> I mean, if it's your own laptop czarbomba, if it's company's oh well, not your money probs 17:08 < genr8_> batteries cost $20 on ebay 17:08 < genr8_> if you want to feel better about it, get the $30 one 17:10 < genr8_> or just let Battery companies take advantage of you 17:11 < genr8_> you know they only charge what people will pay, and people are paying that because they don't know any better. they don't know how to cross reference part numbers, go to different sellers for second opinions, research which other laptops take the same battery and instead of searching the laptop name search the battery name directly 17:18 < Casteil> so nice out 17:19 < genr8_> i was just about to go out...... 17:19 < genr8_> until my mom got hit with bank / CC fraud 17:20 < Casteil> :\ 17:20 < genr8_> now i have to dissect her computer 17:21 < Casteil> think I'll spend the next few hours out power washing 17:21 < Casteil> my car, then my landscaping edgers 17:24 < czarbomba> when about 4 minutes straight of varying types of sirens are blaring off in the distance, you know drivers aren't handling the rain well at all 17:26 < czarbomba> baudlord if it were just the difference between $105 and a reasonably decent battery and $12.99 and a little work, i'd be there with you. but instead i can spend $40, get a warranted one i know won't suck, and be done with it 17:26 < czarbomba> also i don't have the 6 cell frame that fits flush to the back of the laptop and makes it work with my laptop bag 17:27 < czarbomba> it's got a nice large display and with a little battery life works perfectly for screening videos on flights, but the extended life 9cell is kinda obtrusive and i can't put it in the padded pocket of my best laptop bag 17:27 < czarbomba> so the 6 cell, which won't last as long as the old one anyway, is required just for the case anyway. this way i'm not fucking with the components and still paying less than dell wants by a long shot 17:29 < baudlord> it's an option yes 17:29 < baudlord> I take it it's $40 for that 6-cell? 17:29 < baudlord> worst case scenario, you got a shell now if you need to replace the cells 17:35 < czarbomba> yeah pretty much 17:37 <+MillerBOSS> Nope not yet 18:07 <+MillerBOSS> Gencade 👉 I was referring to my Madden comment - BOOOM tuff acting tinactin 18:08 <+MillerBOSS> So suing Russia is a thing now these days eh? Good luck 18:10 < DLSteve> Putin will supper disappointed when he visits Florida for vacation and has his papers served! 18:11 <+MillerBOSS> lol by Hillary herself, right? 18:24 < czarbomba> the foxbots are still hillary-crazed, huh 18:25 < czarbomba> oh hello there 18:25 <+DrGibby|> WHAT ABOUT HER EMAILS is still a thing, czarbomba, yes. 18:25 < genr8_> you dont need a warranty on that battery. you just need it to work and not die within the 30 day return period 18:25 < czarbomba> yeah i saw buttery males is back in fashion 18:27 < czarbomba> sometimes i just want to hang around with guys with nicknames like "tater" and shoot the shit 18:27 <+DrGibby|> truckstops, czarbomba 18:27 <+DrGibby|> or hole in the wall bars in rural towns 18:30 <+DrGibby|> byebye matrix.org shells! 18:30 <+MillerBOSS> No I was referring to the dems suing the Russian government and Trump campaign, and Wikileaks. 18:31 <+MillerBOSS> Remember when it was said if you lose Donald you will accept and leave it alone. Why can't that go both ways. 18:32 <+DrGibby|> because there is sufficient evidence that something illegal occurred? 18:38 < czarbomba> also: nobody is disputing the electoral college outcome. obstruction of justice has been the key focus of the probe for like the last 9 months 18:39 < czarbomba> anyway . i'm just laughing my ass off that people obsess over a little grandma in chappaqua 18:39 <+DrGibby|> WANNA BE DEPRESSED?! 18:39 <+DrGibby|> https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/8e2fdf/1_dead_6_others_hurt_in_waffle_house_shooting/ 18:39 < czarbomba> fuck. 18:39 < czarbomba> no. 18:39 < czarbomba> i can smell the cancer 18:39 < czarbomba> without going anywhere near it 18:40 <+DrGibby|> he was naked, except for a green jacket and shot/killed 4 people, injured 4 others 18:40 <+DrGibby|> fled the scene, changed into dark clothes and has since disappeared 18:40 < czarbomba> yeah i caught that part in the reporting 18:41 < czarbomba> i imagine the comments are already sufficiently psychopathic. i haven't bothered looking at any timelines or portals that dip even tangentially into 'social media' 18:41 < czarbomba> 0 reddits, 0 twitters, i never even look at facebook 18:41 <+DrGibby|> oh yeah, avoid all that shit 18:41 < czarbomba> and now youtube's new videos are awash with bullshit when things happen 18:41 < czarbomba> so i just go to subscriptions if anything 18:45 <+DrGibby|> I get 100% of my news from Last Week Tonight with John Oliver 18:47 < czarbomba> you could do worse 18:47 < czarbomba> he's more of a feature story guy though 18:48 < czarbomba> doesn't go into the daily roar unless something really pops out 18:48 < czarbomba> personally i want sean hannity to tell me everything because he pays close attention and is detail-obsessed 18:48 <+DrGibby|> well, with some very liberal bias on most comments, but if you watch it for entertainment its pretty good 18:48 < czarbomba> the only time he left something out was when he didn't tell his employers that he was openly defending his own lawyer on tv 19:51 <+NinjaStyle> Boop 19:53 <+A-KO> morning 19:55 <+NinjaStyle> A-KO: sup 20:19 < L3gacy> Verizon tech came out. Swapped Router and ONT 20:19 < L3gacy> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7249488463 20:22 < L3gacy> no more 300/300. Damn brownouts damaged the gear 20:27 < L3gacy> m4221, hai! 20:27 < m4221> How the fuck does someone manage to get a dish cleaning rag down a utility sink drain? 20:27 < m4221> 12 ft down 20:30 < L3gacy> Magic? 20:30 < L3gacy> Had verizon out, today, m4221 20:30 < L3gacy> Couldnt do past 300Mbps. I have gig 20:30 < L3gacy> had to swap out the ONT and router :O 20:30 < m4221> L3gacy: and? 20:31 < L3gacy> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7249488463 20:31 < L3gacy> Brownouts cooked old gear 20:34 < m4221> L3gacy: nice 20:34 < m4221> Sousapro: hey 20:34 < L3gacy> thanks 20:37 < m4221> Atro: hey 20:38 < L3gacy> Neighbors yorkie is barking NON STOP, and left home alone in the apt. 20:38 < L3gacy> *Neighbor's 20:40 < m4221> L3gacy: call animal control ;) 20:40 < m4221> L3gacy: anonymously 20:40 < L3gacy> Evn when they are home it barks non stop. :( 20:41 < L3gacy> Only, now, it is whimpering :( 20:41 < The_Dv8or> sup 20:47 < m4221> I am just scratching my head The_Dv8or 20:47 < m4221> My brother let a washcloth go down the utility sink drain. 20:47 < The_Dv8or> apparently he didnt want anyone to know he beats off there 20:50 < m4221> The_Dv8or: perhaps...I am just annoyed at his lack of commom sense 20:52 < Sousapro> Hey m4221 20:52 < Sousapro> Wow 20:52 < Sousapro> That's ridiculous 20:53 < czarbomba> m4221 is it true you were hanging out in a v-neck sweater down in the "sketchy" part of town yesterday 20:53 < Sousapro> czarbomba: rendezvous with your mother 20:53 < m4221> czarbomba: negative on that 20:57 < Sousapro> LOL apparently the parent and child bowl is a thing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyakodon 21:17 < The_Dv8or> sounds good actually 21:45 <@JollyRgrs> chicken n rice... toss in an egg... definitely good stuff 21:45 <@JollyRgrs> do it all the time 21:54 < L3gacy> JollyRgrs, Tonkatsu ramen with egg :) 21:57 <@JollyRgrs> i heard ramen with egg 21:57 <@JollyRgrs> is tonkatsu a restaurant? 21:58 < voidstar> just had a fried egg and ham sandwich 21:58 < voidstar> better than any egg mcmuffin 22:07 < ConkyAxis> like normal sliced ham? 22:09 < L3gacy> JollyRgrs, Tonkatsu is pork stock ramen :) Has pork cuts and such :) 22:10 < L3gacy> oops Tonkotsu 22:10 < L3gacy> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonkotsu_ramen 22:10 < rpifan> i love tonkatus 22:11 < L3gacy> So, Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince played a Klingon General.... 22:11 < L3gacy> I wonder how is Thlingon'hol was? 22:16 <+DrGibby|> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMcLT8s0zA 22:16 <+layer-eight> YouTube wow by 2017-01-07T04:45:02.000Z (duration: 19s) on Sat Jan 07 11:45:02 UTC 2017, 2017-01-07T04:45:02.000Z views 22:17 < Sousapro> man, i'm getting excited for the new deadpool almost against my will 22:17 < Sousapro> those trailers are ridiculous 22:18 < Gencade> FUCK YOU DrGibby| 22:18 < Gencade> Never seen deadpool btw 22:21 < L3gacy> A LANnister Always Surfs The Net < New Wifi 22:23 < Sousapro> the first one was pretty excellent, especially since you could tell they used like 10% of the budget that they usually use 22:23 < Sousapro> it still was pretty good 22:29 < L3gacy> Hatsjoe, ! 22:30 < Hatsjoe> Sup L3gacy 22:30 < L3gacy> nm. u? 22:32 < Hatsjoe> Not much either 22:32 < L3gacy> Finally getting around to installing 2012R2 :P 22:33 < Hatsjoe> Hehe 22:33 < L3gacy> Dual Xeon 6 core ;) 22:33 < Hatsjoe> Glad I dont have to do anything with Windows :P 22:33 < L3gacy> Oh? Why is that? 22:34 < Hatsjoe> Because I only work with Linux :P 22:34 < Hatsjoe> I dont bash Windows though, it can be pretty good.. I just prefer Linux way more 22:34 < L3gacy> What distro? 22:34 < Hatsjoe> Im one of those types that really enjoys typing away in shells all day long 22:35 < Hatsjoe> Arch on my laptop and desktop and any server distro on the environments I manage 22:35 < Hatsjoe> Either CentOS, Debian, RHEL or Amazon Linux 22:35 < catbeard> gentoo or bust 22:36 < Hatsjoe> Hehe 22:36 < L3gacy> GenPoo? 22:37 < L3gacy> I'm a Debian fan 22:37 < catbeard> Debian - if you didn't install it, there's probably something there for it 22:38 < catbeard> Gentoo - If you didn't install it, it's not there 22:38 < catbeard> esp if roll your own grsec kernel 22:55 < The_Dv8or> any of you people do any SQL server adminning? 22:55 < catbeard> you people 22:55 < catbeard> the correct term is you fuckers 22:56 < catbeard> MySQL, MSSQL, MariaDB, Postgres, ...? 22:56 < DLSteve> I have a hosted SQL Server instance in Azure if that counts... 22:57 < The_Dv8or> I formatted my SQL server and redid it from scratch… now when I try to connect from Mgmt Studio, Im getting this “target principal name is incorrect. Cannot generate SSPI context” error 22:58 < The_Dv8or> likely because its a fresh server with the same name 22:58 < catbeard> that sounds very microsoft-y 22:58 < The_Dv8or> tried clearing NetBIOS cache , WINS cache, and stuff like that… cant seem to clear the old keys or something 22:58 < The_Dv8or> tried clearing Kerberos cache too 22:58 < catbeard> you mean you don't have an IPSEC tunnel / SSL / AES / CryptDB between you and the server? 22:59 < catbeard> tut tut 22:59 < The_Dv8or> not when its a homelab and the damn things might be on the same host 22:59 < catbeard> have you tried the login sa / sa 22:59 < catbeard> :) 22:59 < The_Dv8or> is sa the default password for a SQL engine? 23:00 < catbeard> default user i think 23:00 < catbeard> idk about def pass 23:00 < The_Dv8or> yeah I never set the sa pass 23:00 < DLSteve> I have always used DB specific users, I do not use AD users for auth. 23:01 < The_Dv8or> I guess if you use that practice, you wouldnt know much about clearing old caches for Winders logins 23:02 < catbeard> ya db specific, sometimes table specific views for a user, and host restriction of course 23:03 < Sousapro> I saw someone try to implement arch in prod 23:03 < Sousapro> I'm kinda surprised they didn't combust with the level of judgement I was targeting them with 23:05 < DLSteve> I kinda want to try it, see how long the server lasts before some bleeding edge patch kills it. 23:05 < catbeard> http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/see-this-shit-stop-it.jpg 23:06 < The_Dv8or> its definitely a Kerberos error 23:06 < Sousapro> DLSteve: found the chaos admin 23:06 < Sousapro> :P 23:07 < DLSteve> >:) 23:08 < Sousapro> it's painfully sunny out in central florida right now 23:08 < DLSteve> At my work you basically have to bribe the Linux team to use anything other than the company sanctioned RHEL 7 image. 23:09 < Sousapro> DLSteve: that sounds like a sane policy :P 23:09 < DLSteve> and when I say other I mean like vendor supplied virtual appliances. 23:09 < Sousapro> Ubuntu Desktop non-lts in prod 23:09 < voidstar> eek 23:09 < DLSteve> haha 23:09 < Sousapro> you know it exists 23:09 < Sousapro> and is probably like 12.04 or something 23:09 < Sousapro> err 12.10 23:10 < voidstar> 13.10* 23:10 < Sousapro> sure 23:10 < Sousapro> something that guarantees no patches lol 23:10 < Sousapro> devs: support pls 23:11 < voidstar> I need to work with red hat derived oses more. I'm a poor debian boi 23:11 < Sousapro> debian is fine 23:11 < DLSteve> It's not too much different now that everything is jumping on the systemd band wagon. 23:11 < voidstar> aha 23:12 < Sousapro> hell, I've had to use Ubuntu Server LTS in prod 23:12 < Sousapro> I would just rather use something like RHEL 23:12 < voidstar> my first true foray into linux was ubuntu desktop 8.04 23:12 < DLSteve> I need some RHEL 8 so I can have my Python 3.6+ out of the box :( 23:12 < voidstar> lol 23:13 < Sousapro> something something cattle something pets 23:13 < voidstar> back when gnome 2 was king. none of this macos imitation bs 23:14 < DLSteve> Hey! I usually do a dry run before I obliterate thousands of users out of AD! 23:14 < Sousapro> tfw `-WhatIf`runs for days 23:14 < DLSteve> haha 23:14 < Sousapro> and you start sweating at your desk 23:14 < Sousapro> lol 23:15 < Sousapro> my problem is that I've never had a major failure in prod before 23:15 < Sousapro> I've always caught it at that level 23:15 < DLSteve> We actually have a real time Splunk dashboard that monitors AD group add/removes so we can see if a rogue script was kicked off. 23:15 < voidstar> anyone support zentyal server? 23:16 < DLSteve> Worst I have done was remove 1,400 users from some accounting security group. Got a lot of tickets from that one. 23:18 * m4221 tases everyone 23:18 * L3gacy asks for dinner first 23:18 < m4221> L3gacy: I do not swing that way 23:18 < voidstar> then don't threaten him with a good time then 23:19 < m4221> voidstar: stop sexually harassing me 23:20 < voidstar> oh no the council on vice and virtue are at my door 23:20 < voidstar> s/on/of 23:20 <+layer-eight> voidstar meant: "oh no the council of vice and virtue are at my door" 23:20 < m4221> voidstar: aka HR 23:20 < voidstar> what's the extension for ##reddit-sysadmin HR? 23:21 < m4221> voidstar: a pegging 23:22 < voidstar> rolled my face across the keypad, HR can't fire me because I've demonstrated mental disability 23:22 < DLSteve> Man, I'm amazed at how many people in Canada get rehired. 23:22 * m4221 tases DLSteve for dissenting speech 23:23 < DLSteve> We have a bug in the provisioning system where if they are rehired and activated in the HR system their AD account is not automatically re enabled. 23:23 < m4221> DLSteve: I only want solutions, not problems 23:24 < DLSteve> I only provide work arrounds, hence why the provisioning system is still broken. 23:24 < DLSteve> Canadian HR feed was built like 7 years ago by contractors with duct tape and bubblegum. 23:25 <+MillerBOSS> What kind of bubblegum? 23:25 < DLSteve> They guy basically built a custom Java extension to read a freaking CSV file... 23:26 < DLSteve> MillerBOSS, Some sugar free one that no one likes. 23:27 < m4221> DLSteve: not Wrigleys? 23:27 < voidstar> WTB Canadian visa 23:27 * m4221 tases MillerBOSS 23:46 < The_Dv8or> FIXED IT, muthafukka!!! 23:46 <+MillerBOSS> Fuck you too m4221 23:46 <+MillerBOSS> .bofh 23:46 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS, BOFH says: Terrorists crashed an airplane into the server room, have to remove /bin/laden. (rm -rf /bin/laden) 23:46 < m4221> MillerBOSS: we love you too 23:47 <+MillerBOSS> 🤗 23:47 <+MillerBOSS> Well we already did rm -rf /bin/laden 23:47 < m4221> MillerBOSS: rm: /bin/laden: Permission denied 23:49 < m4221> MillerBOSS: $brother put a washcloth down the drain making a clog 23:49 <+MillerBOSS> Does he live with you? 23:49 < m4221> MillerBOSS: no, with the folks, he does 23:49 <+MillerBOSS> So he is retarded or something? 23:49 <+MillerBOSS> ;) 23:50 < m4221> MillerBOSS: I made him retrieve the cloth from the basement cleanout 23:51 < mkillebrew> why would you recursively remove a file 23:51 * m4221 slaps mkillebrew with a large trout 23:53 < suttin> mkillebrew: because reasons 23:53 < suttin> cryptic1: you aorund 23:53 < m4221> Hello suttin 23:53 * MillerBOSS slaps suttin around a bit with a large trout 23:54 < m4221> MillerBOSS: is he sluttin again? 23:54 <+MillerBOSS> Thats the word not he street. 23:54 < mkillebrew> "because I don't know what the rm flags mean" 23:54 <+MillerBOSS> s/not he/on the 23:54 <+layer-eight> MillerBOSS meant: "Thats the word on the street." 23:55 <@cryptic1> suteri, i am 23:55 * m4221 pegs cryptic1 23:55 <+MillerBOSS> Who said its a file and not a directory of terrorists, mkillebrew? 23:55 < suttin> cryptic1: +v pls 23:55 < m4221> cryptic1: +o pls 23:55 <+MillerBOSS> Ha ha 23:55 < mkillebrew> nobody puts directories in bin 23:56 * MillerBOSS rolls eyes 23:56 < mkillebrew> that's not how PATH works 23:56 <+MillerBOSS> Talk to the person that made the BOFH line 23:56 <+MillerBOSS> :) 23:56 < m4221> .bofh 23:56 <+layer-eight> m4221, BOFH says: Don't worry; it's been deprecated. The new one is worse. 23:57 <+suttin> thx cryptic1 <3 23:57 * m4221 tases cryptic1 23:57 <@cryptic1> god damn it m4221 again! 23:57 <+suttin> can we just +b him? 23:58 <@cryptic1> yeah 23:58 * cryptic1 smirks 23:58 < m4221> .bofh 23:58 <+layer-eight> m4221, BOFH says: SCSI Chain overterminated --- Log closed Mon Apr 23 00:00:55 2018