--- Log opened Tue May 15 00:00:20 2018
00:00 < scwizard> fucking gitlab man
00:00 < precise> s/git/math
00:00 < scwizard> sometimes pushes just randomly hang
00:00 < precise> rest in pepperoni layer-eight
00:00 < starbomba> hey NS how's tejas
00:00 < scwizard> this is gitlab.com tho
00:01 < scwizard> would probably be better if we selfhosted
00:01 < xtensive> ya that's kinda what I was thinking Sousapro like it's not muych more to buy an actual SAN
00:04 < Gencade`> `lucky
00:05 < rhqq> SWEEEEEEEET
00:05 < rhqq> there's going to be dell latitude with ryzen pro released <3
00:07 < silentfury> dell is going to add a grill to its laptops? :D
00:07 < rhqq> pfffft
00:07 < SynMonger> I'd go for a smoker
00:07 < silentfury> Sousapro: i wouldn't put your faith in Microsoft for storage AT ALL
00:07 < mal_will> It really does look like a super pain to get un-blacklisted
00:07 < rhqq> they're as cool as intels really
00:07 < rhqq> tpd is same
00:07 < mal_will> broiling is the way
00:08 < rhqq> a little lower cpu performance for a little better gpu performance
00:08 < rhqq> that's something that'll make my day
00:08 < rhqq> or a year
00:12 < mal_will> My AC thing is broken so I looked up its model number, like. "maybe I can fix this"
00:12 < mal_will> now I know how your average finance user feels about IT
00:12 < starbomba> i want a burger but my choices kinda suck
00:12 < joelazot> hello
00:12 < starbomba> i can get a $15 "gastropub" burger that is guaranteed awesome or i can get a $5 fast food pink slime special
00:12 < starbomba> or i could drive 30 min out of my way for 5 guys i guess
00:13 < joelazot> hmm
00:13 < joelazot> whats 5 guys
00:13 < starbomba> good chain burger place
00:13 < starbomba> huuuuge cups of fries
00:13 < starbomba> like comically large
00:14 < pcspkr> yuuuge
00:14 < precise> 5 guys is worth 30 minutes sometimes starbomba
00:15 < mal_will> depends how much they're paying you
00:15 < precise> heh
00:16 < starbomba> it might be. the rain seems to be coming back, though
00:16 < starbomba> so 30 min might turn into 90 like that
00:16 < precise> Hrm
00:20 < bomb> https://i.imgur.com/Eo39rFq.gif
00:20 < grumplestiltzkin> starbomba: it isn't so much 'a cup of fries' as it is 'put the burger and an empty cup n the bag - now fill the rest of the bag with fries'
00:20 < torquellini> joelazot: so comically huge that they fill up the cup of fried
00:21 < torquellini> then do the thing grumplestiltzkin said because goddamnit you had to ruin the fun of telling the story
00:21 < xtensive> bag fries mmmmm
00:21 < torquellini> and you have to dig through the fries to get to your burger
00:22 < torquellini> tbh fun the first time, but then you're just covered in grease
00:22 < SynMonger> and the burgers leak
00:22 < grumplestiltzkin> mooyah is basically the same thing.  the stores even look the same.  The only difference I remember between them are that mooyah has turkey burgers as an option (which don't taste like turkey burgers), and 5guys has those cajun fries
00:22 < torquellini> yeah, it's super messy to eat there but fucking delicious
00:23 < torquellini> you will not leave 5 guys dry and with your dignity intact
00:23 < SynMonger> meh
00:23 < xtensive> the cajun fries are delicious
00:24 < silentfury> peanut oil fries are better.
00:24 < torquellini> hey guys silentfury likes nut juice
00:24 < silentfury> it's just shitty MSG cajun seasoning
00:25 < xtensive> smashburger rosemary fries are a little better IMO
00:25 < silentfury> truffle parmesan ftw
00:25 < torquellini> smashburger fries is bae
00:25 < mal_will> peanut oil does make a good fry though
00:25 < mal_will> I think Chick fil a does peanut oil
00:25 < precise> I like the five guys cajun fries
00:25 < silentfury> so does five guys
00:25 < torquellini> they do
00:26 < torquellini> the whole place tastes like nuts
00:26 < admiralspark> precise: which area for the potatoes though
00:26 < grumplestiltzkin> iirc chick fil a did for..ever, but changed fairly recently because of possible allergies or something sily
00:26 < xtensive> waffle fries!  hold 3x the ketchup
00:26 < mal_will> Woah they did?
00:26 < torquellini> I haven't been to chick fil a in years
00:26 < precise> admiralspark: Idaho
00:26 < precise> Always Idaho
00:26 < mal_will> It did always fuck with me that people could die from peanuts, but we keep using them in society
00:26 < grumplestiltzkin> mal_will: wat
00:26 < precise> I can die from water too
00:26 < precise> :P
00:26 < mal_will> but peanut butter cups, man
00:27 < silentfury> mal_will: why not? they have a choice whether to eat stuff with peanuts
00:27 < mal_will> peanut allergies kill people really quickly grumplestiltzkin
00:27 < precise> If I'm alergic to peanut's, that's how I'd kill myself, with peanut butter cups
00:27 < mal_will> like, a kiss from soneo ate a peanut can do it
00:27 < grumplestiltzkin> people can die or get shat upon by all kinds of allergies
00:27 < xtensive> that's pretty rare I think
00:27 < torquellini> have y'all ever scooped out the insides of a reeses
00:27 < mal_will> but peanuts are deadly so quickly
00:27 < torquellini> peanut allergies are more common than others though
00:27 < silentfury> take away my peanut sauce FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS
00:27 < mal_will> sometimes even an epipen won't save you
00:27 < SynMonger> peanut oil doesn't trigger peanut allergy
00:27 < torquellini> silent fury REALLY likes nuts
00:28  * precise jabs torquellini with his epipen
00:28 < torquellini> BEES
00:28 < mal_will> this seems wrong SynMonger
00:28 < precise> BEEEEES
00:28 < mal_will> but I'm not about to google
00:28 < precise> heh
00:28 < torquellini> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtXuBN1Hvc
00:28 < mal_will> "burden of prooooffffF"
00:29 < torquellini> WHAT'S THIS, A PEACEFUL FAMILY PICNIC?
00:29 < torquellini> A SUDDEN INFLUX OF BEEEEEEEEEEEES OUGHT TO PUT A STOP TO THIS!
00:29 < grumplestiltzkin> mal_will: that's fine, but those select few with allergies should be the justification to annihilate a very inexpensive, protein rich food source?
00:30 < mal_will> I mean, we used to fee radium, I thnk? to people
00:30 < SynMonger> just wait until you get bitten by the tick that makes you allergic to meat
00:30 < torquellini> yeah but isn't radium universally poisonous?
00:30 < mal_will> so I get it, but also, you'd think we'd stop expanding on the peanut offerings a bit
00:30 < grumplestiltzkin> iirc 'radium allergy' wasnt the problem there
00:30  * precise unleashes torquellini's BEEEEEES
00:30 < xtensive> moar peanuts, the strong will survive
00:30 < mal_will> No, it's the blatant disregard for humans thing
00:30 < mal_will> in my radium example
00:30 < mal_will> and then pair it with we LOVE peanuts
00:30 < torquellini> I feel like lead would be a better example
00:31 < mal_will> can't really expect to have less peanuts
00:31 < mal_will> do we feed lead?
00:31 < mal_will> I guess paint and stuff kept getting used
00:31 < mal_will> toys
00:31 < torquellini> EPA rolling back regs on limiting lead currently
00:31 < grumplestiltzkin> lead doens't really have a replacement in a lot of applications.   Is leadded paint still a thing?
00:31 < mal_will> woah, really torquellini ?
00:32 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: then we shall go without
00:32 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180514/p17#a180514p17 >Google revamps consumer storage plans, now called Google One, adds $3/mo. tier for 200 GB, drops 2 TB plan price to $10/mo., and adds free product tech support
00:33 < SynMonger> hmm
00:33 < grumplestiltzkin> precise: fishing weights, balancing tires, firearm projectiles (which, yeah, there are alternatives, but they are expensive, and debatablely effective
00:33 < grumplestiltzkin> also avgas ..   any non-street gasoline
00:33 < torquellini> mal_will: I may be wrong
00:33 < precise> Nerp
00:33 < MillerBOSS> Google One? Why another name off of Google Drive?
00:33 < precise> No more lead
00:33 < torquellini> I read it a couple months back
00:33 < mal_will> Ah true, people leaving slugs in the mountains, after shooting, that's been a problem
00:33 < precise> Just get rid of it
00:33 < precise> Remove it from periodic table
00:34 < mal_will> I'd believe it torquellini
00:34 < precise> Boom
00:34 < precise> Gone
00:34 < mal_will> Where's the eraser
00:34 < torquellini> everything I find says something different
00:34 < precise> Id use whiteout
00:34 < MillerBOSS> https://one.google.com/
00:34 < torquellini> precise: what are you, thanos
00:34 < precise> But thatd make me a racist
00:34 < mal_will> "this is america" torquellini
00:34 < grumplestiltzkin> mal_will: well, has it been a problem?
00:34 < mal_will> yeah...
00:34 < grumplestiltzkin> what problem
00:34 < mal_will> it has been a problem
00:34 < grumplestiltzkin> I mean what bad thing is caused?
00:34 < precise> lead in the water table?
00:35 < mal_will> lead getting into ground water
00:35 < precise> Water supplies?
00:35 < precise> Geee IDK
00:35 < grumplestiltzkin> does lead not exist in nature?
00:35 < torquellini> neurotoxins exists in nature
00:35 < mal_will> also, not great for loggers
00:35 < xtensive> well so does uranium grumplestiltzkin
00:35 < precise> Lead is bad
00:35 < precise> mmkay?
00:35 < mal_will> if you shoot at trees, it can kill someone cutting said tree down when they're cutting implement hist it
00:35 < grumplestiltzkin> " precise has bee nknown to the state of california to cause cancer '
00:36 < precise> Artificially introduced lead in a natural environment is horrible
00:36 < precise> mmkay?
00:36 < mal_will> their cutting implement hits*
00:36 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: U are wrong and have resorted to insults.
00:36 < torquellini> is lead being harmful to humans actually under question grumplestiltzkin?
00:36 < xtensive> wasn't there a study about less crazy people doing crazy things after they removed lead from gasoline?
00:36 < torquellini> I mean I get that it has a lot of practical applications
00:36 < precise> torquellini: #FAKENEWS
00:36 < precise> FLINT IS A HOAX
00:36 < sadbox> mal_will: also it's shitty for the tree
00:36 < precise> :|
00:37 < mal_will> this is true sadbox
00:37 < grumplestiltzkin> Are there any recorded instances of these things?
00:37 < precise> Oh what things?
00:37 < grumplestiltzkin> I mean, obviously injesting lead is bad for you
00:38 < precise> Please digress
00:38 < SynMonger> breathing it from leaded gasoline exhaust wasn't so great, either
00:38 < torquellini> grumplestiltzkin: https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/publications/Educational_Interventions_Children_Affected_by_Lead.pdf
00:38 < mal_will> yes, there are
00:38 < precise> There's a reason we've been trying to phase lead out of modern society for 5 decades
00:38 < grumplestiltzkin> the injury due to lumberjack hitting a lead projectile that somehow stayed intact that is lodged in a tree
00:38 < torquellini> oh that
00:38 < xtensive> https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2013/01/03/how-lead-caused-americas-violent-crime-epidemic/#3e0e1c0512c4
00:39 < SynMonger> you can still buy leaded gasoline for aircraft engines, 100LL (low lead)
00:39 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: You just cherry picked one of our points and are trying to use it to negate our entire stance.
00:39 < xtensive> same for boats I think SynMonger
00:39 < mal_will> The nullified policy had a simple and good purpose: it was designed to stop the needless, incidental poisoning of millions of wild animals each year by lead that’s left behind in the routine pursuit of these field sports.   https://blog.humanesociety.org/2017/03/trumps-interior-secretary-reverses-ban-lead-ammo-national-wildlife-refuges-first-official-act.html
00:39 < grumplestiltzkin> Im mostly talking about the ammo piece, like whatever justification california used to ban lead ammo
00:39 < xtensive> which seems like a really bad idea
00:40 < torquellini> yeah tbf mal_will that tree thing seems like an urban legend
00:40 < precise> "It doesn't hurt me, so why should it be banned?"
00:40 < mal_will> I've seen it happen
00:40 < grumplestiltzkin> precise: that 'cherry picked' thing was the only one I saw that had to do with what I was talking about.  was there others?
00:40 < mal_will> ever shove a tree in a woodchipper and hear some bonus sounds?
00:40 < torquellini> I have never done this
00:41 < torquellini> I did get pelted by a rock from a lawnmower though
00:41 < precise> Yes, the link regarding violent crimes, my flint notion, the unleaded gasoline that was brought up, etc.
00:41 < precise> torquellini: I had a woodchip stick in my shin the other day
00:41 < precise> fuck that noise
00:41 < torquellini> but I don't think that would propel a bullet with enough force to kill
00:41 < torquellini> if a lawnmower flicking is any indication
00:41 < grumplestiltzkin> precise: yeah, but the violent crime was *because* of the unleaded gas, so those are the same thing  - and   was the flint water supply issue due to lead ammo being used?
00:41 < precise> Eh, a rock can probably get enough speed to cause some serious damage in the right circumstances.
00:42 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: If you want to select the lead ammo point, and dismiss all the others because thats easiest for you, go ahead. It just weakens your argument.
00:42 < grumplestiltzkin> er, was because of the leaded gas, apparently being remedied by switching to moslty having only unleaded available
00:42 < torquellini> I'm not even sure what point grumplestiltzkin is even arguing
00:43 < mal_will> ditto
00:43  * torquellini tosses a 64ct of crayons as a diversion
00:43 < grumplestiltzkin> what arguement?    I was talking about ammo mostly   - but sure, fishing weights and balancing tires too.
00:43 < mal_will> but I was told in gun control classes not to shoot at trees
00:43 < mal_will> I'm trying to find why
00:43 < precise> grumplestiltzkin is trying to make the point that we cant ditch lead.
00:43 < mal_will> apparently this is a sore subject
00:43 < precise> But we need to.
00:43 < precise> Yeah..
00:43 < precise> grumplestiltzkin must workin the lead industry
00:43 < grumplestiltzkin> like peanuts?
00:43 < precise> lol
00:43 < torquellini> I don't think it's feasible to ditch lead entirely
00:43 < precise> torquellini: We should try though
00:44 < grumplestiltzkin> torquellini: thats what Im saying. it still has uses that we have no cost-effective replacement for
00:44 < torquellini> what about radiation shielding?
00:44 < precise> Simply saying, but these things can never be replaced otherwise, so we shouldn't do anything, is no way to progress.
00:44 < precise> That's my irk
00:44 < mal_will> the article I linked has some alternatives listed
00:44 < precise> We found out mercury was a problem, so we stopped making mercury thermometers
00:45 < precise> We need to do the same with lead
00:45 < torquellini> mal_will: which one
00:45 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: it's not like we don't have alternatives for fishing weights, bullets, or tire balancing things
00:45 < mal_will> I only linked one
00:45 < torquellini> isn't mercury still in flourescents
00:45 < mal_will> some
00:45 < precise> Some, yeah
00:45 < rhqq> yes
00:45 < rhqq> and is more dangerous
00:45 < grumplestiltzkin> sadbox: not as cost-effective, for now anyway
00:45 < rhqq> than the thermometers
00:45 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: Cost-effective according to producers. Yet then the consumer will suffer because of the possible exposure.
00:46 < torquellini> cost-effective is an argument maybe for taking progress slowly but not halting it altogether grumplestiltzkin
00:46 < precise> I know tons of people that would shell out extra for lead-free products.
00:46 < precise> It's been 50 years
00:46 < mal_will> Why not shoot trees? to not hurt the trees, ricochet? whaaaaat? https://www.fs.fed.us/visit/know-before-you-go/shooting
00:46 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: I'll take spending an extra $.25 over covering the world w/ little bits of lead
00:46 < torquellini> sadbox: +
00:47 < grumplestiltzkin> sadbox: you can. right now. you can buy lead-free ammo
00:47 < grumplestiltzkin> its just more expensive
00:47 < sadbox> bullets aren't necessary, tire weights you buy sooo rarely, and fishing weight aren't necessary
00:47 < grumplestiltzkin> like 2-3x iirc
00:47 < torquellini> eh sadbox tbh I have way more luck catfishing with weights
00:47 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: I do, and everyone should too, which is why there should be a law
00:47 < sadbox> making you do it
00:47 < precise> "but mah guns"
00:47 < mal_will> cat fish with your hands, fancy boys!
00:47 < torquellini> but I would bet my shoes that I can buy nonlead fishing weights
00:48 < grumplestiltzkin> torquellini: and like - literally *any* trotline
00:48 < precise> You can
00:48 < sadbox> torquellini: I more mean that fishing is not a thing you need to do
00:48 < sadbox> rather than weights being unnecessary in the pursuit of it
00:48 < grumplestiltzkin> torquellini: same same, you can, but more expensive
00:48 < precise> So fuckin what
00:48 < torquellini> grumplestiltzkin: yea, so
00:48 < precise> Progress > Money
00:48 < torquellini> +
00:48 < grumplestiltzkin> lol.   sadbox telling everyone what we need to do and not do
00:48 < torquellini> drinking clean water is more expensive than creek water full of animal turds
00:49 < torquellini> I'll take the non-turd water tyvm
00:49 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: if you're fuckin' up the environment I'm OK with telling you not to
00:49 < torquellini> sadbox: I'm still gonna go fishing tho
00:49 < grumplestiltzkin> sadbox: no, you said 'no shooting, no fishing'
00:49 < sadbox> shared resources and all that
00:49 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: Bro, you lost
00:49 < grumplestiltzkin> lost what?
00:49 < precise> The argument, just stop.
00:49 < precise> Lead is bad
00:49 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: I did not say that, I said shooting is not a thing you -have- to do, so I'm not gonna make exceptions for people saving money while doing it
00:50  * torquellini tosses another 64 count of crayola with the sharpener in the box
00:50 < precise> We should get rid of lead in production.
00:50 < grumplestiltzkin> [17:44] <sadbox> torquellini: I more mean that fishing is not a thing you need to do
00:50 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, I fish by shooting
00:50 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: He's not telling you not to fish
00:50 < ThatOneRoadie> so my day is ruined
00:50 < precise> He's saying you dont need to
00:50 < ThatOneRoadie> ballistic fishing though :(
00:50 < precise> Go ahead
00:50 < precise> Fish your heart out
00:50 < torquellini> his point is grumplestiltzkin is that if it's not a necessity, cost is less of an issue
00:50 <+NinjaStyle> D:
00:50 < precise> But just because you want to fish, doesn't mean I should need to deal with your lead
00:50 < mal_will> it's not a need, exactly
00:50 < grumplestiltzkin> precise: htat sure reads like hes saying don't fish.
00:51 < precise> No
00:51 < precise> Its not
00:51 < precise> lol
00:51 < mal_will> oh hi NinjaStyle
00:51 < precise> Oh hai Mark
00:51 < torquellini> grumplestiltzkin: pls to learn how to critical reading
00:51 < precise> ^
00:51 <+NinjaStyle> oh hai
00:51  * precise looks up grep syntax
00:51 < precise> We like 25 minutes in
00:51 < mal_will> dang ol...neat  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdUWeynln2k
00:51 < precise> TFW I'm grepping /~
00:51 < grumplestiltzkin> following that train of thought - nobody needs to fish?  so we all just stop eating fish?    I'm trying to understand here
00:52 < torquellini> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=context
00:52 < mal_will> I mean, I'm not for fish
00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, it's true
00:52 < precise> lol
00:52 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: Go ahead
00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> nobody *needs* to eat meat
00:52 < precise> Fish
00:52 < Gencade`> we should only eat kelp shakes
00:52 < mal_will> but fish farms don't use lead weight probably
00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> but mmmmmmm bacon though
00:52 < torquellini> damn grumplestiltzkin bby do you know how to take sentences into context of the surrounding information
00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> Oh, fish farms don't use lead weight
00:52 < ThatOneRoadie> usually the nets are permanently installed
00:52 < mal_will> Yeah
00:52 < sadbox> ThatOneRoadie: indeed they don't
00:52 < torquellini> your mom is permanently installed
00:53 < mal_will> they probably just scoop
00:53 < ThatOneRoadie> and the weights are usually stainless steel, for corrosion resistance
00:53 < precise> lol
00:53 < precise> torquellini: ^
00:53 < ThatOneRoadie> yeah, they just wholesale bring the entire net up when they harvest
00:53 < mal_will> no necessity vs hobby comes into play
00:53 < mal_will> and if it's a hobby, maybe buy the stainless weights
00:53 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: If it's a hobby then I care a lot less about keeping the costs down
00:53 < grumplestiltzkin> torquellini: I sure do, but man - srs - someone telling someone else that he doesn't *need* to do something.
00:53 < precise> grumplestiltzkin: Bruh
00:53 < mal_will> You wouldn't use rose arts to paint a portrait of your mailman
00:54 < precise> I only use Crayola
00:54 < torquellini> ok grumplestiltzkin but *do* you need to fish?
00:54 < torquellini> do you know anyone that does? out of actual necessity?
00:54 <+NinjaStyle> am sleepy
00:54 < precise> I don't think that even matters torquellini
00:54 < torquellini> precise: bby do you know how to diplomacy
00:54 < precise> He can fish, who cares. But just because you want to fish, doesn't mean I should have to deal with his lead.
00:54 < precise> torquellini: No.
00:54 < precise> ;)
00:55 < rhqq> lol, chill with the lead thing
00:55  * precise throws smallpox blankets at #r-s
00:55 < Gencade`> precise: you cry a lot
00:55 < torquellini> that's a winkyface Gencade`
00:55 < precise> pleb
00:55 < mal_will> That was a fun 20 minutes
00:55 < precise> Yeah
00:55 < torquellini> wait if I'm talking in r-s...
00:55 < Gencade`> can we move on?
00:55 < grumplestiltzkin> its called subsistence hunting/fishing iirc and you don't need a license.  No, I don't know anyone personally that needs to fish.   I do know many who use venison instead of beef most of the year
00:55 < mal_will> who are you pipiopi
00:55 < pipiopi> NOW YOU KNOW WHO I AM
00:55 < pipiopi> do---dohhhhhhh
00:55 < precise> pipiopi: new phone, who dis?
00:55 <+NinjaStyle> who the fuck is pipiopi
00:56 < pipiopi> maaaaaaan
00:56 < precise> ;)
00:56 < mal_will> fuck that guy pipiopi
00:56 < ThatOneRoadie> tbf if you're pulling drinking water from a surface source
00:56 <+NinjaStyle> pipiopi: jmjm :)
00:56 < ThatOneRoadie> you're prooooooooobabaly getting more than lead in it
00:56 < ThatOneRoadie> proooooooooooooooobably*
00:56 < mal_will> gross ThatOneRoadie
00:56 < ThatOneRoadie> I wouldn't be surprised to see some ppm of asbestos in it
00:56 < pipiopi> ok now how about this grumplestiltzkin
00:57 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: if we're gonna make our laws based solely on people who hunt for their own food we're gonna have a bad time
00:57 < rhqq> i wouldnt be afraid of using lead pipes for my water system
00:57 < Nightcinder> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-tesla-crash-friday-20180511-story.html this shit hurts my head
00:57 < rhqq> lead is difficult to give you poisoning
00:57 < rhqq> like, really
00:57 < Nightcinder> who gives a kid a fucking supercar
00:57 < pipiopi> the more people who switch to nonlead implements will increase the demand and thus the production of nonlead items
00:57 < grumplestiltzkin> sadbox: I never said make laws because of that.  I was asked if I know anyone who [basically] sibsistance fishes
00:57 < grumplestiltzkin> *sub
00:57 < ThatOneRoadie> Nightcinder: Affluenza
00:57 < Nightcinder> “It’s ridiculous that in 2018 they are making cars that are plush and modern but not safe,” she said. “I loved my nephew. He was wonderful. I want every car company in America to hear my plea.”
00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> also all teslas are not supercars
00:58 < Nightcinder> In that incident, a Broward sheriff’s deputy used radar to track his gray Tesla traveling at 112 mph in a 50 mph zone near Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, according to the citation.
00:58 < rpifan> hi
00:58 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: FWIW, I do know people who do that, I grew up in the boonies in AR
00:58 < pipiopi> supply of nonlead could then pass up the supply of lead implements
00:58 < rpifan> ThatOneRoadie, you going to bonaroo
00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> The P85D/P90D/P100D sure
00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> those are supercars
00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> the regular 100D/90D/75D are not
00:58 < sadbox> make an exception fo rthem or something, but it's a rounding error
00:58 < grumplestiltzkin> pipiopi: yeah, that barrier to entry for new tech is real.  just like electric cars IIRC
00:58 < pipiopi> price *could* then be justified in going down
00:58 < Nightcinder> it was a 2014 model s but if it's a P wasn't listed
00:58 < mal_will> why does everyone want visio?
00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> also the 2014 Teslas are cheap now
00:58 < ThatOneRoadie> like <30k
00:58 < Nightcinder> but the father had to limit it to 85mph
00:58 < pipiopi> mal_will: because diagrams and MS paint sucks
00:58 < mal_will> I see maybe one visio creation for every 25 installs
00:58 < Nightcinder> because the kid was stupid
00:59 < pipiopi> oh yeah we are pretty bitchy about our installs
00:59 < ThatOneRoadie> also I'm pretty sure that's misleading
00:59 < mal_will> I think people think it sounds neat, then they try to make one and are unprepared so they never touch it again
00:59 < ThatOneRoadie> "...Tesla loaner cars had an 85 mph maximum speed"
00:59 < Nightcinder> what's misleading?
00:59 < pipiopi> your mom was misleading last night
00:59 < Nightcinder> no
00:59 < ThatOneRoadie> yes, because they're in valet mode
00:59 < Nightcinder> he had tesla set it to 85mph
00:59 < Nightcinder> Pat Riley said her brother, James, knew that Tesla loaner cars had an 85 mph maximum speed. So after Barrett was cited in March, his first traffic offense, the father asked Tesla to adjust the car’s top velocity.
00:59 < mal_will> That's smart to nerf it
00:59 < ThatOneRoadie> tbh I'm not entirely sure they *can* do that
00:59 < grumplestiltzkin> ThatOneRoadie: thats nowish - the barrier is real.  it took how many years, and how manu subsidies to prop it up for it to get past that barrier?
00:59 < Nightcinder> well the article claims they did
01:00 < Nightcinder> it's just software
01:00 < Nightcinder> shouldn't be terribly hard
01:00 < ThatOneRoadie> he might've had one of the little monitor things, and I know it could be changed in software, but It'd be a bitch to do
01:00 <+NinjaStyle> Nightcinder: just like java
01:00 < Nightcinder> lol
01:00 < Nightcinder> i imagine tesla has to have some way to do it
01:00 < ThatOneRoadie> he probably had one of those little insurance monitor things that lets him know when the car exceeds 85mph
01:00 < Nightcinder> Intervening to limit a car’s speed has become an increasingly popular option among new car owners, especially for cars driven by teenagers, said Karl Brauer, executive publisher at Autotrader and Kelley Blue Book.
01:00 < Nightcinder> Since these cars are controlled by sensors and signals, it’s fairly easy to reprogram them to control speeds, he said.
01:00 < ThatOneRoadie> Nightcinder: I know for a fact they do, it'd just be a bitch to put on a customer car
01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> The MCU and Gateway aren't set up for it on loaners
01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> on non-loaners*
01:01 < Nightcinder> idk
01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> but that can be fixed with a remote firmware flash I suppose
01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> and yeah
01:01 < ThatOneRoadie> that article was written by someone who said "Sure, it's an electric car, so it must be simple"
01:02 < mal_will> that's a quote?
01:02 < ThatOneRoadie> and/or "It's a new tech car, let's ask some people who have the word "Auto" in their job title
01:02 < Nightcinder> lol
01:02 < mal_will> I saw a person in a subreddit list themselves as a $tvshowname specilist
01:02 < ThatOneRoadie> "It’s ridiculous that in 2018 they are making cars that are plush and modern but not safe"
01:02 < ThatOneRoadie> lmao
01:03 < mal_will> like, I guess I can't tell you you aren't a specialist in that tv show
01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> average auto fatality rate in a car in the US is 1 in 80 million miles
01:03 < rpifan> so hackmiami is this weekend
01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> in a Tesla it's 1 in something like 340 million miles
01:03 < rpifan> who is coming
01:03 < mal_will> but. it's a cheap victory I hope
01:03 <+NinjaStyle> nothing moving 100mph into a wall is safe
01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
01:03 < rpifan> czarbomba,
01:03 < rpifan> u coming
01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> but a tesla gives you about the best chance
01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> Someone went at 65mph into the back of a fire truck
01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> he walked away with a broken ankle
01:03 < ThatOneRoadie> well, limped
01:03 < mal_will> “Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”― Jeremy Clarkson
01:04 < rpifan> lol
01:04 < mal_will> s/JeremyClarkson/Spiderman/
01:04 < ThatOneRoadie> s/Spiderman/Abraham Lincoln
01:04 < mal_will> that dang space
01:05 < ThatOneRoadie> Corrected numbers per NHTSA: Average automotive fatality in the US: 1 every 86 million miles. In a Tesla: 1 in 320 million miles.
01:09 < sadbox> ThatOneRoadie: I wonder how that compares to other luxury cars
01:09 < m4221> You all fail
01:10 < sadbox> m4221: get back to work
01:10 < m4221> sadbox: you need a mcds happy box
01:10 < precise> m4221: Go home
01:11 < precise> GO HOME
01:11 < precise> NOW
01:11 < precise> GO
01:11  * precise fights m4221 in #donger
01:11 < rhqq> oh noes, it's him again
01:12 < m4221> rhqq: fuck you
01:12 < precise> 19:12 <@dongerdong> precise REKT m4221
01:12 < mal_will> a happy box m4221 ?
01:12 < rhqq> m4221: fuck you too <3
01:12 < m4221> rhqq: in your room or mine?
01:13 < m4221> :p
01:13 < rhqq> bench in the park
01:13 < rhqq> im feeling frisky
01:13 < precise> r u my cat
01:13 < rhqq> nah, last thing you'll ever see in your life
01:14 < precise> my cat?
01:14 < rhqq> ugh, nevermind
01:14 < rhqq> precise: your nick is colored same way as m4221s
01:15 < rhqq> so disregard
01:15 < rhqq> :E
01:15 < precise> lmao
01:15 < rhqq> ya, it's already past 1am
01:15 < m4221> rhqq: I am offended at your saying that I am colored
01:15 < precise> nice b8 m8
01:15 < rhqq> :E
01:16 < m4221> rhqq: whatchu got against black people?
01:16 < rhqq> well, you're purple to me
01:16  * precise looks at JollyRgrs 
01:16 < precise> JollyRgrs called me purple when I was drunk the other night
01:16 < precise> I'm still confused
01:16 < precise> Even after reading logs
01:17  * m4221 slaps rhqq
01:17  * precise hands rhqq his smacking trout
01:17 < precise> pls do the needful
01:17 < rhqq> m4221: you hit like a girl
01:17  * m4221 gets quad damage
01:18 < rhqq> well 4 times 0 is still 0
01:18 < precise> m4221: You should stretch more
01:18 < precise> If you hurt your quads by smacking
01:18 < rhqq> haha
01:18  * m4221 makes rhqq's stuff divide by 0
01:19  * precise dissolves into the plain of impossibility
01:19 < rpifan> https://www.hackmiami.com/schedule-hackmiami-conference-6
01:20 < rhqq> ugh, ubuntu 18.04 is taking 10times more time to load than 15.04 :/
01:24 < voidstar> 18.04 is strange man
01:24 < rhqq> yeah
01:24 < voidstar> I'm sticking to 16.04 for a while
01:24 < rhqq> well, i installed it on 10 year old laptop
01:24 < rhqq> only because i need some deb packages from weird sources to upgrade my lte modem
01:26 < precise> voidstar: 16.04 is a solid release
01:26 < precise> I like 14.04 tho
01:26 < rhqq> btw, i use arch
01:26 < rhqq> :P
01:26 < precise> Excuse me
01:26 < precise> 12.04
01:26 < precise> Man, it's been a minute
01:27 < precise> How do you know someone uses Arch?
01:27 < precise> Don
01:27 < precise> Don't worry, they will tell you.
01:27 < rhqq> yeah :P
01:27 < rhqq> i was referencing to that
01:27 < precise> Sometimes you cant tell
01:27 < precise> ;)
01:27 < rhqq> ah, well
01:27 < rhqq> true
01:27 < rhqq> :D
01:27 < JollyRgrs> hey precise did you hear about the vegan vapor-ing arch user?
01:27 < rpifan> yes
01:28 < rpifan> i knew her
01:28 < rhqq> you forgot about crossfit
01:29 < voidstar> must live in seattle
01:33 < precise> Ok, question time. Ugly bash command, why would this result in a 69GB file when the source to search in is 1.5GB?
01:33 < precise> grep -Friw --context=1 --color=always 'doot' * | cut -c31- | aha --black > doot.html
01:35 < rhqq> what does `aha` do
01:36 < precise> It converts the output to HTML, taking the colors flag in the grep command in to account.
01:36 < precise> Makes reading easier
01:36 < precise> Is a neat tool
01:36 < rpifan> doot doot
01:36 < rhqq> well, never used browser :P
01:36 < precise> rpifan: thank
01:36 < precise> rhqq: It's 1.5GB source, results are often hundreds of lines
01:36 < precise> ;)
01:36 < rhqq> i can see 3 times more output, but not 69g
01:36 < precise> Yeah
01:37 < rhqq> but then html
01:37 < precise> Not even close
01:37 < rhqq> depends how much overhead is the html
01:37 < rpifan> thank coocoo
01:37 < precise> I used to use this command all the time
01:37 < precise> The overhead was minimal
01:37 < precise> The context flag offers more overhead
01:37 < rhqq> yeah,
01:37 < rhqq> and youre cutting out fields so
01:37 < rhqq> that should be minimal anyway
01:38 < precise> Oh hey
01:38 < rhqq> youre doing a recursive search, any chance you have some more directories?
01:38 < precise> rhqq: It is recursive
01:38 < rhqq> du -shx *  ?
01:38 < precise> I just dropped the * and it finished at 12M
01:39 < rhqq> yeah
01:39 < precise> rhqq: Yeah, the grep source is only 1.5GB, IDK why the * in the original command caused it to do that
01:39 < precise> Perhaps it was navigating in parent directories?
01:39 < rhqq> i doubt
01:39 < precise> But I doubt there were that many instances of said string on my linux box
01:39 < rhqq> whats the `du` output ?
01:39 < precise> lmfao
01:40 < precise> I'd rather not past it, but It confirms the directory is 1.5GB
01:40 < precise> *paste
01:40 < rhqq> ok ok
01:40 < rhqq> weird
01:40 < precise> It works tho
01:40 < precise> That's wierd
01:41  * precise opens a 12MB html file in firefox
01:41 < precise> Animal abuse
01:41 < rhqq> whats the purpose of browsing 12mb file anyway
01:41 < precise> rhqq: It's how I work :P I go from there and then use the context I find in those results to narrow down searches further.
01:42 < precise> Don't ask what I'm searching ;)
01:42 < rhqq> i'd grep until i end up with 2kb file
01:43 < precise> rhqq: But, if you don't know exactly what your looking for....
01:43 < precise> ;)
01:43 < rhqq> if you say so :P
01:43 < rhqq> well, i'll have such task soon actually
01:44 < rhqq> we have 16gb/day traffic we dont really know whether its legitimate or not
01:44 < precise> Source? Destination?
01:44 < rhqq> imma say hi to nginx logs
01:44 < rhqq> well, it's spread evenly
01:44 < rhqq> i'm 403ing all the most common bots already (including search spiders etc, we dont need that)
01:45 < rhqq> we're behind cloudflare, so all common vectors are covered anyway
01:45 < precise> rhqq: Just scrape host IPs in #r-s and block those, you dont want that
01:45 < rhqq> yet still, 16gb a day in seemingly normal traffic
01:46 < rhqq> what?
01:47 < precise> rhqq: Was a joke
01:47 < precise> rhqq: Describing #reddit-sysadmin as a hive of scum and villainy that you don't want on your website.
01:47 < rhqq> ah
01:47 < precise> Just scrape our host IPs and block those
01:47 < precise> ;)
01:47 < rhqq> :P
01:47 < rhqq> yeah, makes more sense now, as i said earlier, it's late here
01:48 < precise> rhqq: I get it
01:48 < precise> Kinda like when JollyRgrs called me purple while I was drunk
01:48 < precise> JollyRgrs: WTF DID U MEAN
01:48 < rhqq> well, you're purple to me now
01:48 < rhqq> ;p
01:49 < precise> ok
01:49 < precise> I'm ok with this
01:49  * precise looks at JollyRgrs 
01:49 < precise> Get in here u nazi mod
01:49 < precise> esplain urself
01:49 < JollyRgrs> precise: just weechat things
01:49 < precise> Wot
01:49 < precise> JollyRgrs: y did u call me purple
01:50 < JollyRgrs> on my screen you are
01:50 < JollyRgrs> but you called ME purple, first
01:50 < enix> Fuck I'll be happy to rid myself of this place
01:50 < enix> Two major issues are open at the moment, and I get scolded for asking a question about them
01:50 < precise> JollyRgrs: Oh, Oh... lol
01:50 < rhqq> JollyRgrs: you're more like a plum colored to me
01:50 < precise> aight
01:50 < enix> Right after I was told "oh yeah we've had this before"
01:50 < precise> JollyRgrs: We good, sorry I called u a nazi mod
01:50 < TuxedoJack> Goddamn fucking RETARD! Who the FUCK gives the main helldesk number out to fucking O365 support as the main ticket contact number WHEN HE FUCKING KNOWS IT GOES TO GODDAMN FUCKING VOICEMAIL AFTER 5 AND THEIR POLICY IS TO NOT GIVE FUCKING CALLBACK NUMBERS
01:50 < enix> LOL
01:51 < rhqq> =]
01:51  * precise twitches
01:51 < precise> TuxedoJack: I'm sorry.
01:51  * precise hands TuxedoJack his drink of choice.
01:51 < TuxedoJack> Meanwhile, someone's been fucking with the fucking Azure AD replicator DC at another client, so it won't fucking talk outside the hypervisor
01:52 < TuxedoJack> And guess what fucking DC is set as authoritative for that site?
01:52 < TuxedoJack> WHICH HOSTS THE FUCKING TERMINAL SERVERS
01:52 < TuxedoJack> WHICH DON'T ACCEPT CACHED CREDENTIALS
01:52 < precise> fucking count = 9
01:52 < TuxedoJack> So now no one, AT ALL, __ENTERPRISE WIDE__, can remote into the fucking RDP server!
01:52 < rhqq> 10
01:52 < precise> nice
01:53 < precise> Also, the other day I learned that if you drink spensive drinks and someone buys you a drink and then ask, wtf are you drinking after hearing the price, its funny and horrible.
01:53  * rpifan thinks uncle has been smoking something
01:53 < rpifan> apparently he wants to come up with smellovision
01:53 < rpifan> for the interent
01:53 < precise> Bruh
01:53 < precise> I read a book like that once
01:53 < precise> Some kids book
01:53 < precise> Kids family was rich because dad invented way to send smells of the webs
01:54 < voidstar> there was a company that made a game that includes a smell component/contraption
01:54 < voidstar> I think it was a southpark game actually
01:54 < precise> There are some producers that thought 4D movies with scratch n' sniffs was a good idea
01:54 <@cryptic1> evening
01:54 < precise> Hi cryptic1
01:55 <@cryptic1> hey
01:55 < voidstar> oh, it was the fractured but whole, the device was called the nosulus rift
01:55 < precise> How u doin
01:56 <@cryptic1> How YOU Doin
01:56 < rpifan> lol
01:56  * precise blushes
01:56 < rpifan> like dr fransworths smelloscope
01:57 < czarbomba> TIL every single armenian male in the world looks almost exactly like a member of system of a down
01:58 < ThatOneRoadie> welp
01:58 < ThatOneRoadie> probably terminating on this house that I've got under contract
01:58 < czarbomba> homelessness in 3...2...
01:58 < rpifan> czarbomba, u coming to hack mamiami conference thing
01:58 < ThatOneRoadie> eh, not homeless
01:58 < enix> ThatOneRoadie: will you have a home?
01:58 < ThatOneRoadie> I'll just go month-to-month on the place I rent when the lease is up at the end of juneish
01:59 < czarbomba> rpifan unfortunately i won't have any time to myself during business hours for the next six months
01:59 < darkscrypt> how u doin!
01:59 < enix> fransworth lol
01:59 < czarbomba> can't the landlord just boot you out once your lease is over
01:59 < enix> rpifan: fransworth
01:59 < ThatOneRoadie> and if they decline to go month-to-month I'll move about an hour north and go do the trope thing of living in my parents' basement
01:59 < czarbomba> lol ah
01:59 < czarbomba> suicide is an option, too
01:59 < rpifan> its on the wekekend
01:59 < enix> ThatOneRoadie: honestly parents basement would be #1 option
01:59 < enix> ThatOneRoadie: think of how hacker that is
01:59 < czarbomba> rpifan, "business hours" for me is 7 days a week 7am-7pm
01:59 < ThatOneRoadie> only if I have like 7 screens
02:00 < rpifan> oh sad
02:00 < enix> I've looked into eight... it breaks the law of uneven monitors and it's very expensive, but goddamn it looks good
02:00 < czarbomba> 7 screens, a $42,000 stereo system, a grow operation, and a neckbeard
02:00 < ThatOneRoadie> I'll have to stop trimming my beard
02:00 < sadbox> czarbomba: so, on the note of suicide
02:00 < ThatOneRoadie> and meh, no grow op for me
02:00 < sadbox> my neighbor at my last apartment offed themselves
02:00 < ThatOneRoadie> not a fan of the marijuanas
02:00 < enix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn4gkwYc5g0
02:01 < rpifan> lol
02:01 < sadbox> It was a real bummer watching the parents find the body
02:01 < czarbomba> more for me
02:01 < czarbomba> sadbox, but you got a mad rent discount right?
02:01 < sadbox> naw, it's california
02:01 < czarbomba> whaaaa
02:01 < sadbox> they had it cleaned up and rented to someone new in like a month
02:01 < czarbomba> aqre suicides so prevalent in california that people are like OH DEAD BODY APT BFD
02:02 < sadbox> more like housing is so expensive / hard to find that -someone- won't give a fuck
02:02 < czarbomba> i guess suicide houses in california are like incest houses in florida
02:02 < czarbomba> it happens so often you just sorta accept it
02:02 < sadbox> I was tossing some trash out and saw the dad sitting there w/ a box of pictures
02:02 < ThatOneRoadie> no surprise in SFO
02:02 < enix> tbh you tell a hipster or someone that someone died in that house, they'll proabbly pay more
02:02 < sadbox> he'd take each one
02:02 < sadbox> look at it, sigh deeply
02:02 < precise> WTF are we talking about?
02:03 < sadbox> then toss it in the trash
02:03 < sadbox> precise: how even a suicide can't get you a discount on your rent in CA
02:03 < precise> Oh
02:03 < precise> Seems morbid
02:03 < enix> precise: i was going to say your mum, but that would be very tasteless
02:03 < ThatOneRoadie> quite
02:03  * precise inserts sneks into the channel
02:04 < precise> ssssssssssssss
02:04  * ThatOneRoadie step on snek
02:04 < sadbox> ssssssssssssssuicide
02:04 < precise> nuuui
02:04 < enix> I'm tired of these goddamn sneks on this goddamn chet
02:04 < silentfury> ./mothafuckin
02:04 < silentfury> gotta quote SLJ verbatim man
02:04 < voidstar> `bringbacklayer-eight
02:05 < voidstar> oh, hey
02:05 < voidstar> `sjw
02:05 < voidstar> who turned that off?
02:05 < precise> Bring back layer-8
02:05 < precise> OG bot
02:05 < precise> Like and Share if you remember layer-8
02:05 < voidstar> layer-nine, gotta get HR involved
02:05 < precise> THUMBS UP!
02:05 < enix> silentfury: 100% sorry looking at 10 things at once
02:05 < enix> lol
02:05 < precise> GO WINNIPEG!
02:05 < precise> WOOOOOO
02:06 < ThatOneRoadie> FUCK WINNIPEG GO KNIGHTS
02:06 < enix> how the fuck do i have so much music
02:07 < enix> Something like 100GB worth
02:07 < silentfury> as a canadian i want jets to win
02:07 < silentfury> as a hockey fan i want to see knights win
02:07 < enix> I have more music than some of our clients (radio)
02:07 < ThatOneRoadie> real talk though winnipeg fans are awesome and the team is great and as a canadian I'm conflicted because vegas is the most canadian team in the NHL and I'd be happy if either team made it to the SCF
02:08 < precise> silentfury: ++
02:09 < precise> ThatOneRoadie: ++
02:09 < precise> Which ever one can beat the Caps
02:09 < precise> Fuck the Caps
02:09 < silentfury> i just love the epic saga of an expansion team winning the cup in their first season
02:09 < silentfury> FUCK THE CAPS AND OVY
02:09 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, I want the caps to go to the SCF
02:09 < precise> AND WILSON
02:09 < ThatOneRoadie> just because fuck tampa bay
02:09 < precise> FUCK WILSON
02:09 < ThatOneRoadie> and then I want either of the west teams to win
02:09 < precise> Tampa is much to south to have a hockey team
02:09 < precise> No business in the game
02:10 < silentfury> ideally i'd want Jets/Knights in the final
02:10 < silentfury> but cant haev everything
02:10 < ThatOneRoadie> I want to see Vegas vs Caps
02:10 < precise> silentfury: I've been secretly hoping that Caps and Lightning just get into a big brawl and get DQed
02:10 < precise> They've been fighting a bit as of late
02:10 < ThatOneRoadie> I don't think even a bench brawl with a goalie fight in every game would DQ them
02:11 < ThatOneRoadie> it didn't DQ colorado or detroit for damn near a decade
02:11 < precise> And then the Penguins come down to the rink with Sidney Crosby in hand, climb the cell, and throw the Knights off the Hell in the Cell through a table.
02:12 < precise> AND THE SNEKS RED GLARE
02:12 < precise> THAT OUR SNEK WAS STILL THERE
02:12 < precise> A SSSSSAY DOES THAT SNEK SPANGLED BANNER YET WAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE
02:13 < precise> Ok im done
02:13  * precise hides from the mods
02:13 < precise> Niiiiiiiiiisssssse
02:13 < precise> OOOOOOOH CAAAAAAAAAAAAANADAAAAAAa
02:13 < precise> wtf did 37 just do>?
02:14 < precise> Anyone see that?
02:14 < precise> Had a siezure or something
02:14 < Snekpro> my tis of thee?
02:14 < enix> precise: he heard your chanting probly
02:14 < precise> enix: lol
02:14 < precise> "clickclakclickclak"
02:15 < misspwn> i forgot how much i liked the simpsons
02:15 < sneniks> that's great
02:15 < sneniks> did anyone see the global warning?
02:15 < precise> wot
02:15 < sneniks> s/warning/notice
02:15 < sneniks> [Global Notice] Hi all, freenode seems to have fallen foul of the IRC-version of a graffiti artist -- as such, those of you whose communities operate with -t channels, you may wish to check your channel topics, and if appropriate, revert them back to their previous state!
02:16 <@cryptic1> lol
02:16 < precise> lmao
02:16 < sneniks> anyone know what happened? Sounds lulzy
02:17  * precise does the needful
02:17 <@cryptic1> probably automated bot would join channel and change topic if they did not have topic protection set
02:17 < ThatOneRoadie> didn't happen in ##reddit-hockey and we have -t
02:17 < ThatOneRoadie> iirc
02:17 < precise> Canada bout to exploide if they score
02:17 < precise> nerp, penalty
02:18 < misspwn> ohhh i've had some bots keep coming in one i monitor
02:18 < misspwn> doesn't look like they've changed topic though
02:18 < sneniks> please tell me he changed it to "motd"."8===D"
02:19 < sneniks> also; add $240 to my phone bill
02:19 < sneniks> what-the-fuck
02:20 < sneniks> fuck ... local business shared my photo on insta and now heaps of people followin gme
02:20 < sneniks> brb
02:21 < voidstar> marketing++
02:21 < admiralspark> https://xkcd.com/1988/
02:25 < TheTinker86> weird
02:26 < TheTinker86> why was i being thrown into a quaranteen group?
02:29 < sneniks> For good reason
02:35 < JollyRgrs> TheTinker86: could you just not talk?
02:35 < JollyRgrs> we don't allow unregistered nicks to talk (Too much spam)
02:35 < JollyRgrs> most likely is the case
02:37 < czarbomba> how the fuck is false equivalence not on yourlogicalfallacyis.com
02:39 < JollyRgrs> czarbomba: your false equivalence is the same as slippery slope, there's no difference between the two
02:39 < admiralspark> czarbomba: submit it?
02:39 < enix> w0t
02:39 < precise> JollyRgrs: Wot did Tinker do?
02:40 < precise> Is it because he cant spell quarantine?
02:40  * precise totally didn't doublecheck that spelling
02:41 < enix> precise: tbh if I was op, it's that kind of delinquency that wouldn't fly.
02:42 < enix> I'd be handing out bans like Pam handed out puffy stickers.
02:43 < enix> Starting with Nostalg14c... whose name is a PITA the remember when you're having issues connecting to the channel and you want to PM without tab completion.
02:43 < JollyRgrs> precise: nothing? i'm guessing he didn't register beforeh e tried to speak
02:43 < precise> JollyRgrs: Oh
02:43 < precise> enix: You are a true nazi mod
02:44 < JollyRgrs> precise: read up and you'd see that, you inbred
02:44 < enix> precise: Well this is a true Nazi channel.
02:44 < enix> precise: you are not permitted to speak unless you have registered with a central authority
02:45 < precise> Heh
02:45 < precise> JollyRgrs: I only scroll for cryptic1
02:45 < precise> #notmymod
02:46 <@cryptic1> rekt
02:46 < precise> lol
02:46 < admiralspark> kids
02:46 < precise> admiralspark: You are the youngest here...
02:47 < enix> precise: cryptic1 stands for some good policies, however it's rare that he walks among the common people. JollyRgrs meanwhile puts his title to the side to converse among the rest of us without prejudice
02:47 < precise> IRC is srs bisness
02:47 < enix> precise: personally, I vote for those who engage with the community as part of the community, as opposed to lording over it.
02:47 < precise> >vote
02:47 < precise> >implying we have a vote
02:47 < enix> precise: I'm sorry for this..
02:47 < enix> .vote JollyRgrs
02:47  * precise looks at cryptic1 
02:47 <@cryptic1> hilarious
02:47 < precise> Look at this capitalist pig, cryptic1!
02:48 < precise> Silly enix
02:48 < enix> precise: We were meant to have voting powered by Layer-8, unfortunately it's now powered by hopes and dreams.
02:48 < precise> Right on queue
02:48 <@cryptic1> its lawyer-eight now
02:48 < precise> Hi tsarbomba
02:48 < enix> tsarbomba and czarbomba: You both need to go to #donger and fight for your name
02:48 < enix> because I refuse to look twice at what you guys say
02:48 < precise> I thought they were the same.......
02:48 < TheTinker86> ive been registered here for months
02:48 < enix> TheTinker86: fuck bit slow there mate keep up
02:49 < enix> TheTinker86: please stop bumping old threads
02:49 < precise> TheTinker86: that's a loose interpretation of months
02:49 < precise> You registered that nick on freenode on March 29
02:49  * precise does math
02:50 < precise> "months"
02:50 < precise> Technically...
02:50 < abakedapplepie> inspector precise is on the job
02:50 < precise> Oh hai abakedapplepie
02:50 < phormulate> precise smells of excrement and chalk dust
02:50 < precise> TheTinker86: This is our jester
02:50 < precise> abakedapplepie:
02:50 < precise> phormulate: IDK how you know that but please get out of my house
02:50 < phormulate> stop doing math, it speeds up time
02:50 < precise> :O
02:50 < phormulate> stop it
02:50 < precise> so sry
02:50 < phormulate> ok
02:51 < phormulate> sorry, blood sugar
02:51 < precise> Damn, knights are on their horses tonight
02:52 < enix> yeah because winnipeg sucks and they know it
02:52 < precise> cryptic1: Please do the neeful.
02:53 <@cryptic1> i can do nothing
02:53 <@cryptic1> NOTHING!
02:53 < precise> :O
02:53 < precise> BUT
02:53 < precise> HE SLIGHTED CANADA
02:53 < precise> GET EM
02:53 < enix> BECAUSE ITS FUCKING CANADA MATE
02:53  * cryptic1 shrugs 
02:53 < precise> Says the aussie
02:53 < enix> We have crocs mate we're badass
02:54 < phormulate> smoke the peace pipe and raise your bogan hokey sticks?
02:54 < precise> heh
02:54 < enix> phormulate: I am a connoisseur of racism and that sir..
02:54 < enix> THAT
02:54 < enix> was shit.
02:54 < phormulate> meh
02:54 < phormulate> bogan is not racism
02:54 < phormulate> I played hokey in a league
02:54 < phormulate> ...
02:55 < enix> hokcey
02:55 < enix> hockey*
02:55 < phormulate> yep
02:55 < enix> right
02:55 < enix> I read that as "hoe key"
02:55 < phormulate> rusty kb tonight, and I was D
02:55 < enix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzSJBowPECY
02:55 < admiralspark> vape naysh what
02:56 < phormulate> I really can't watch that
02:56 < phormulate> too much stimulation... too much hash and brew
02:56 < enix> admiralspark: VAPE NASSSHHHHH
02:58 < enix> https://i.imgur.com/Jt6I6FE.png
03:04 < czarbomba> i see cryptic1 is still having an extended autist fit
03:05 < Nightcinder> i think my computer setup is finally done https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WPmKlSpp/image.png
03:05 <@cryptic1> am i?
03:06 < Sousapro> hmm my wife may be getting one of these soon Honda CTX700
03:07 < czarbomba> #reddit-sysadmin q tsarbomba!*@* cryptic1!~cryptic1@unaffiliated/cryptic1 1526326333
03:07 < czarbomba> yes. you are.
03:07 < czarbomba> but you know what. that's okay. changes are a-comin'
03:07 < Sousapro> she rides on a Vespa GTS 300 right now and doesn't want to have to clutch while commuting
03:08 < Sousapro> the bike looks fun for having a DCT transmission
03:08 < Sousapro> also is about $8k around here now
03:08 < czarbomba> does this person have a death wish, sousapro
03:08 < czarbomba> vespas are even more dangerous than motorcycles in the united states
03:08 < Sousapro> hers has ABS and ASR on it
03:08 < Sousapro> I've ridden in a downpour with no issues
03:08 < czarbomba> does it have a magical anti-gravity component that allows her to escape assholes running her down?
03:09 < czarbomba> because that's how scooter-riders are killed most often
03:09 < Sousapro> czarbomba: no more so than any two wheel vehicle
03:09 < czarbomba> they either get hit by cars or they fall off the scooter and...get hit by cars
03:09 < czarbomba> actually, yes moreso
03:09 < czarbomba> by a significant margin
03:09 < Sousapro> falling off is hilarious
03:09 < czarbomba> because there are more scooters than motorcycles on the road
03:09 < Sousapro> i've fallen off zero times
03:09 < Sousapro> I guess if you don't know how to ride
03:09 < czarbomba> yeah i don't know shit about riding two wheels
03:10 < Sousapro> you're not doing the isle of man TT
03:10 < czarbomba> i guess the 1300CC harley i had for sixteen years was just window dressing
03:10 < czarbomba> fucking idjit
03:10 < Sousapro> if you fall off, I probably would laugh
03:10 < Sousapro> I'm not saying you don't
03:10 < czarbomba> i must have missed the announcement that today is Autism Monday
03:10 < TuxedoJack> Nightcinder: aww, that's cute
03:10 < Sousapro> have you put 20k on large frame scooters?
03:10 < czarbomba> i'll be back when some less-afflicted motherfuckers are around
03:10 < Nightcinder> TuxedoJack: lemme guess, monitor count?
03:10 < TuxedoJack> https://i.imgur.com/dbGKYVZ.jpg
03:11 < Nightcinder> >keurig
03:11 < Nightcinder> ew
03:11 < TuxedoJack> I swapped it for a Mr. Coffee
03:11 < czarbomba> p.s. to hell with a thai place that charges $19 for a small fried rice
03:11 < czarbomba> and $25 for pad thai
03:11 < TuxedoJack> Just so I could say I have coffee when I watch the monitor labeled "Mr. Radar":
03:11 < Sousapro> czarbomba: this is my current commuter: https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/2018/touring/road-king-special.html
03:11 < precise> czarbomba: More like pad their wallet
03:11 < Nightcinder> i hope i never have to have a phone on my desk
03:11 < Sousapro> I rode a scooter because I can't fit on anything under a road king comfortably
03:12 < Sousapro> maybe a heritage softail with highway pegs
03:12 < Sousapro> I hate being 6'8"
03:12 < Sousapro> I make the road king look small :/
03:13 < Sousapro> czarbomba: we're also considering another car. I just hate riding in a cage :/
03:14 < enix> And you think riding a scooter looks better?
03:14 < Sousapro> I have to drive over 100mph to feel the same way as I do at 25 on two wheels
03:14 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: so this is like you? https://gifer.com/en/SCCz
03:14 < Sousapro> confirmed.
03:14 < Sousapro> just need to black out the bike
03:14 < Sousapro> lol
03:15 < Sousapro> enix: I don't ride a scooter anymore (road king now) but I do like the lines on the Vespas
03:15 < JollyRgrs> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/55/22/bc/5522bc6398691f7894b4bf69719505da--andre-the-giant-the-giants.jpg
03:15 < enix> You LIKE vespas?
03:15 < JollyRgrs> wait, there's a better one
03:15 < enix> oh my lord
03:15 < Sousapro> enix: they're fun and very maneuverable
03:15 < enix> Sorry but I have the deepest despise for scooters
03:15 < Sousapro> why?
03:16 < Sousapro> and I said scooter, not moped
03:16 < enix> Honestly; in my country, scooter riders are absolute cunts
03:16 < Sousapro> :(
03:16 < enix> Every. Single. One.
03:16 < Sousapro> sorry mang
03:17 < Sousapro> I never cut anyone off but I did laugh on everyone trying to pass on my right
03:17 < Sousapro> don't think anyone successfully did that over the 4 years I rode a scooter
03:17 < enix> They're slow, the people who use them aren't riders and have no respect for the 'unspoken road rules' us riders have with each other, they park like twats with zero regard for damaging others bikes
03:17 < Sousapro> enix: yikes, I never did any of that
03:18 < enix> They're always getting in my way, always double parking over me, always taking up all the car spots with their giant shit
03:18 < Sousapro> and I averaged about 75mph on mine
03:18 < enix> Everything that could piss you off about a rider is embodied in the Sydney scooter rider
03:18 < Sousapro> wow, that's nuts
03:18 < enix> Yeah they're pricks
03:19 < Sousapro> I would apologize for them but they sound like assholes
03:19 < Sousapro> lol
03:19 < enix> There's no apologizing for stupid lol
03:19 < Sousapro> I rode out in Portland OR and it was great
03:19 < Sousapro> I rode all but snow days
03:19 < rpifan> last exit to springfield
03:20 < Sousapro> 33 degrees for 45 minutes is a bit rough lol
03:20 < enix> C F or K?
03:20 < Sousapro> LMAO K
03:20 < Sousapro> F
03:20 < Sousapro> like 1 C
03:20 < enix> Oh yeah that'd be chilli
03:20 < enix> omg
03:20 < enix> chilly
03:21  * enix is ready to f10 his job prematurely
03:21 < Sousapro> enix: it could be worse
03:21 < enix> nope
03:21 < Sousapro> enix: you could buy a scooter and ride in sydney
03:21 < enix> I'd honestly rather take the bus
03:21 < Sousapro> lol
03:22 < Sousapro> I would have taken the bus but I was going the wrong way so bus took like 2 hours to do a 30 minute nominal commute
03:22 < MillerBOSS> Anyone have a clue what application this icon is of https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-14-at-8.20.31-PM-wk.png ? It is chilling int he system tray. I do not have access to the system just a screenshot
03:22 < Sousapro> MillerBOSS: martian spying app
03:23 < enix> wtf
03:23 < enix> got a fuller screenshot
03:23 < MillerBOSS> Negative. That is small and in the system tray
03:24 < Sousapro> look at that red planet
03:24 < JollyRgrs> is that the touchpad icon with a dot indicating it being touched there?
03:24 < JollyRgrs> otehrwise, no clue
03:24 < Sousapro> I can see continents in the screenshot
03:24 < Sousapro> or compression artifacts :P
03:25 < MillerBOSS> I mean I got this but it https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-14-20-24-35-fl.png isn't any better
03:25 < MillerBOSS> I am helping a friend
03:25 < enix> You cant right click it?
03:25 < enix> Hover over it?
03:25 < MillerBOSS> I asked the same :P See this person manages users work lets say and a program takes screenshots
03:26 < MillerBOSS> She wants to make sure it is not a auto click program
03:26 < MillerBOSS> Like https://www.murgee.com/auto-clicker/
03:26 < enix> I use that autoclicker
03:26 < enix> it's fantastic
03:27 < MillerBOSS> Which means you can pretend to move the mouse and such that a program that monitors remote workers can be fooled into thinking the employee is actually working but not
03:28 < MillerBOSS> So that is the long story. :P
03:28 < MillerBOSS> And I am sure Google Images knows waht the fuck it is but I feel Google dumbs down Google Images reverse search as the vernal public would be freaked out giving it faces and such
03:28 <@cryptic1> wigglemouse is a java app
03:30 < enix> omg where is the trust
03:30 < enix> "he's not at his desk and he's working from hom we can't trust him"
03:30 < enix> is is fucking work done? yes/ cool.
03:31 < MillerBOSS> Its a little more complicated in this set up unfortunately ;)
03:32 < enix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0W7E7CgEps
03:33 < Nightcinder> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/996132429772410882
03:33 < Nightcinder> gotta love elon
03:35 < enix> honesty is best policy
03:35 < MillerBOSS> martian spying app, you were right Sousapro. Thanks!
03:35 < Sousapro> anytime, MillerBOSS
03:36 < MillerBOSS> :D
03:36 < Sousapro> heh, this guy on bass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cytyAgu9-bA
03:36 < Sousapro> the solo is hotness
03:36 < Sousapro> stuff like this is why I don't play bass
03:37 < Sousapro> I got to college performance major level on tuba and I don't have the spare 20k hours to play bass like that guy about 1:45
03:38 < MillerBOSS> OK I give up. Back to my Factorio
03:39 < Sousapro> I wish playing music paid more money lol
03:40 < nohusuro> man, a good bassist makes a world of difference
03:40 < nohusuro> bass sounds so sexy
03:41 < JollyRgrs> flea makes some good money
03:41 < JollyRgrs> all you gotta do is be like super popular
03:42 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: that guy's not bad
03:43 < JollyRgrs> sad part is, at best, he'll be in his local city symphony whenever they do pink floyd covers or something
03:43 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: yeah, that was a fun direct cover lol
03:43 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: yeah, it's kind of sad how cheap musical excellence is now
03:43 < JollyRgrs> yeah
03:43 < JollyRgrs> :(
03:43 < czarbomba> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/founders-cryptocurrency-company-indicted-manhattan-federal-court-scheme-defraud
03:43 < precise> Hey guys, I'm trying to write this grep command but I'm having a little trouble with alternative strings and could use some help. The grep statement is as follows: grep '\*\*\* (Joins\|Parts\|Quits\|): $var' This is not working, a single option works, but I can't get the multiple options to work. Any advice or ideas? I think it is in relation to the trailing ":".
03:43 < czarbomba> "it's only going to go up" they said
03:43 < czarbomba> "there's no end in sight" they said
03:44 < JollyRgrs> he could easily play bass for RHCP or any other rock band
03:44 < JollyRgrs> but if he doesn't know the right ppl, it'll never happen
03:44 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: yeah, I was going to college for tuba performance on scholarship but no jobs
03:44 < JollyRgrs> lol
03:44 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: I like IT 8/10 and music 10/10
03:44 < JollyRgrs> sousaphone or tuba?
03:44 < czarbomba> you don't go to college on a scholarship without knowing the difference between tuba and sousaphone
03:44 < JollyRgrs> czarbomba: but his name!
03:44 < JollyRgrs> HIS NAME!
03:45 < czarbomba> i always figured that was because of j.p. sousa
03:45 < czarbomba> but you raise a good point!
03:45 < Sousapro> both but I played a 3/4 tuba in the tuba studio, you wouldn't believe how much ensemble play I got (everyone else was rocking a 5/4 or 6/4 tuba and overwhelmed everyone else)
03:45 < Sousapro> I carried it like a euphonium because I'm huge
03:45 < czarbomba> tuba must be fun just because you can have fun playing tuba hook around fat people
03:45 < Sousapro> lmao
03:45 < Sousapro> yeah
03:45 < precise> lol
03:46 < Sousapro> also peoples faces when you actually play something beautiful
03:46 < Sousapro> most tuba music is melancholy though
03:46 < czarbomba> imagine fishbone with a tuba
03:47 < Sousapro> man, I miss how playing excellent music made me happy
03:47 < Sousapro> concerts with people that good will never happen again in my life lol
03:47 < Sousapro> oh well
03:47 < Sousapro> but I get decent money now!
03:48 < matty_r> yo
03:48 < matty_r> Name Inclusions Cost Inclusions Cost
03:48 < matty_r> Toolbox 2x Spanner, 3x Wrench 150 125
03:48 < matty_r> Spanner N/A 25
03:48 < matty_r> Wrench N/A 25
03:48 < matty_r>    whoops
03:48 < precise> hah
03:48 < matty_r> thank god thats what was in my clipboard
03:48 < matty_r> :S
03:49 < Sousapro> we barely missed rule 34 clippy
03:49 < Sousapro> phew
03:49 < matty_r> ha
03:49 < matty_r> Anybody here experienced with MS Access?
03:49 < Alternity> lol
03:50 < Alternity> you poor soul
03:50 < Sousapro> czarbomba: should I fit my road king special with a windshield? I'm trying to figure out if I care about looks enough to avoid a windscreen
03:50 < Sousapro> czarbomba: I'm kinda leaning towards probably not except for long trips
03:51 < matty_r> I'm trying to figure out how to get a multivalued field, where I can put in a quantity for each value
03:51 < Sousapro> I'm trying not to admit that I know outlook
03:51 < Sousapro> s/outlook/access
03:51 < Sousapro> meh lol
03:51 < Sousapro> same deal
03:51 < Sousapro> matty_r: have you considered using an SQL Express instance?
03:51 < matty_r> I'll use whatever
03:52 < TuxedoJack> Sousapro: https://twitter.com/athenahollow/status/948978409899782149
03:52 < Sousapro> who needs to access the database?
03:52 < TuxedoJack> NSFW
03:52 < matty_r> me
03:52 < matty_r> plus one other, maybe
03:52 < Sousapro> TuxedoJack: YOU
03:52  * Sousapro points at TuxedoJack 
03:52 < Sousapro> lol
03:52 < Sousapro> I'm not surprised
03:53 < Sousapro> there's squick of everything on the internet
03:53 < TuxedoJack> Rule 34, man
03:53 < Sousapro> there's a frog girl in a show I've been watching and there is apparently a ton of rule 34 out there
03:53 < TuxedoJack> E-Hentai and Paheal
03:53 < matty_r> Sousapro: why would I use sql express?
03:53 < Sousapro> matty_r: Access is a pain and tends to corrupt itself
03:54 < Sousapro> I can't tell you the number of times I've attempted to recover an Access DB
03:54 < matty_r> ok, sure. So will it solve my problem though?
03:54 < Sousapro> maybe use a multi table model
03:55 < Nightcinder> wtf
03:55 < Nightcinder> that tweet
03:55 < Sousapro> yeah
03:55 < matty_r> Not sure how to do that the best way.. ha ha
03:55 < Sousapro> looking for a decent guide
03:55 < nohusuro> multivalued field? what do you mean by that?
03:56 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: wtf? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVyvV0tOOjw
03:56 < matty_r> nohusuro: you can create a lookup field which allows you to select multiple values
03:56 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: it's like a bass djent stick with four necks
03:57 < Sousapro> sounds pretty good too
03:57 < matty_r> nohusuro: like, it brings up a list and you can place a checkbox next to each one
03:57 < JollyRgrs> Sousapro: yeah it does, i don't understand how this guy can rock like this
03:57 < JollyRgrs> crazy
03:57 < matty_r> I need to be able to do that, but also put a quantity against which one
03:57 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: my brother in law is probably at that level
03:57 < matty_r> each one*
03:57 < Sousapro> I keep trying to nudge him into music school
03:57 < Sousapro> he would become world class if he did
03:57 < nohusuro> sounds like you're trying to do a stock / order system?
03:58 < matty_r> yea, basically
03:58 < Sousapro> hit up a little peabody or berklee
03:58 < nohusuro> stop trying to stuff too much functionality into one control
03:58 < Sousapro> matty_r: what about snipe-it?
03:58 < nohusuro> is the simple answer
03:58 < matty_r> thats really too much for what I need
03:59 < nohusuro> an excel sheet would do you just fine
03:59 < matty_r> I'd rather attempt building a db schema
03:59 < matty_r> for learning and all that
03:59 < Sousapro> as a learning exercise, I think it would be cool.
03:59 < Sousapro> combine it with a web page with controls
03:59 < matty_r> thats the plan
04:00 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDVboqW9VQA
04:00 < JollyRgrs> playing eminem with M&Ms
04:02 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT5F0No-El4
04:02 < Sousapro> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KUkrdlSoXM lmao animal crossing cover
04:02 < JollyRgrs> black man, i give him much props
04:02 < Sousapro> but he kills it
04:02 < JollyRgrs> i like his version
04:04 < JollyRgrs> and he mic drops at the end, like a BAUS
04:05 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-1rsAyMg3o
04:05 < Sousapro> lmao, when he hits the turkey noise. this is literally better than the original.
04:06 < nohusuro> well matty_r, you could either store it as a json / xml object in the field, or you could do what a normal person would and add a line item in a related table for each ticked checkbox
04:07 < Sousapro> ++ to second idea
04:08 < nohusuro> or do a what a more normal person would do and scrap the whole drop down with checkboxes idea
04:08 < nohusuro> making the interface design easier and more closely match what you're doing in the database
04:14 < MillerBOSS> #reddit-sysadmin ICO, when are we starting it?
04:14 <@cryptic1> already got lootcrates
04:15 < MillerBOSS> Do em both
04:17 < MillerBOSS> #reddit-sysadmin lootcrates ICO
04:18 < rpifan> lol
04:18 < rpifan> ill buy in
04:19 < MillerBOSS> I wonder how many people SEC has hired in the last year
04:20 < rpifan> well my previous company got shut down by the sec
04:21 < czarbomba> leave it to millerboss to bring up crypto the day the DoJ basically shuts the whole thing down
04:21 < czarbomba> giggle
04:22 < MillerBOSS> I haven't looked at the news yet
04:22 < czarbomba> (can't figure out why it's down $1000 in 24 hours?)
04:22 < mal_will> Except earlier when linking that news article
04:23 < E-werd> tf u on about czarbomba
04:24 < E-werd> there was a ruling about game gambling, not crypto
04:25 < mal_will> According to reports, the SEC is internally debating whether certain cryptocurrencies should be classified as securities. Little from these discussions has been leaked, but regulators were said to have met on May 7 to discuss the matter.
04:25 < mal_will> https://www.ccn.com/as-sec-debates-whether-cryptocurrencies-are-securities-initiative-seeks-to-distance-xrp-from-ripple/
04:25 < mal_will> I'm guessing ^
04:27 < mal_will> Older, but maybe? https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedknutson/2018/02/26/justice-dept-developing-comprehensive-cryptocurrency-strategy-says-doj-2/
04:29 < MillerBOSS> E-werd 👉 czarbomba took the wrong line. Took Lysol instead
04:30 < E-werd> that hand character fucks my client
04:30 < E-werd> pushes the whole line down half a tick
04:30 < MillerBOSS> Don't blame me
04:32 < MillerBOSS> Watching the last two episodes of Silicon Valley. Hilarious as always
04:32 < gnupluslinux> fuck you i'll blame whoever i damn well pleae
04:32 < gnupluslinux> now fix my shit MillerBOSS i have people depending on me
04:32 < gnupluslinux> I. AM. IMPORTANT.
04:32 < MillerBOSS> OK gnupluslinux. State your issue
04:33 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1 isn't giving me the damn lootcrate i paid for
04:33 < gnupluslinux> send him the pfbux and everything and he hasn't delivered
04:34 < MillerBOSS> OK file your complaint with support@reddit-sysadm.in
04:35 < nohusuro> lol, straight to india 1st line support for you gnupluslinux
04:35 < nohusuro> gnupluslinux: it's only a 10% chance that you get the lootbox you pay for
04:36 < gnupluslinux> nah, i heard they made the change to pakistan for 8.5% opex reductions
04:38 < mal_will> The loot crate can't be good
04:38 < mal_will> A coupon to sizzler and a permanent quite
04:38 < mal_will> Quiet*
04:41 < enix> is there something like this for windows https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firejail
04:42 < mal_will> Long term or short term enix ?
04:42 < gnupluslinux> aw fuck i forgot the name
04:43 < gnupluslinux> basically segregates the program to its own section of mem and accesses
04:44 < czarbomba> <E-werd> there was a ruling about game gambling, not crypto
04:44 < czarbomba> god crypto dorks are fucking a) stupid, b) prideful, and c) mega-oblivious
04:44 < czarbomba> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/founders-cryptocurrency-company-indicted-manhattan-federal-court-scheme-defraud
04:45 < czarbomba> go buy more bitcoin, allstar. it's down another $200 since i last looked :D
04:45 < MillerBOSS> >SOHRAB SHARMA, a/k/a “Sam Sharma,” RAYMOND TRAPANI, a/k/a “Ray,” and ROBERT FARKAS, a/k/a “RJ,” a/k/a “Bob,” the three co-founders of a startup company called Centra Tech, Inc. (“Centra Tech”), that purported to offer cryptocurrency-related financial products, with conspiring to commit, and the commission of, securities and wire fraud in connection with a scheme to induce victims
04:45 < MillerBOSS>  to invest millions of dollars’ worth of digital funds for the purchase of unregistered securities, in the form of digital currency tokens issued by Centra Tech, through material misrepresentations and omissions.  SHARMA, TRAPANI, and FARKAS were all arrested last month based on criminal complaints filed by this Office charging them with the same crimes.
04:45 < MillerBOSS> Does not equal ALLLL crypto coins
04:45 < gnupluslinux> where's hunterkll when you want him
04:46 < czarbomba> millerboss, you don't really seem to know how finance works if you think this is somehow sealed off from btc
04:46 < czarbomba> and you DEFINITELY don't know how crypto works
04:46 < czarbomba> maybe get back to doxing ircers. you're good at that, at least
04:46 < MillerBOSS> I live in my own universe czarbomba
04:47 < czarbomba> ask yourself this: why if these clowns were caught in florida is the case being tried in SDNY
04:47 < MillerBOSS> Hey asshole once and for all I did not dox anyone buy saying X is married to X in another channel. Get your facts straight once and for all. :)
04:47 < MillerBOSS> Once and For ALL
04:47 < precise> MillerBOSS: lol
04:47 < czarbomba> i saw it. you doxed. that's not up for debate.
04:47 < czarbomba> it's a dick move.
04:47 < gnupluslinux> enix, https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/oem-vbs best i got, completely drawing a blank otherwise
04:47 < mal_will> That fuck
04:47 < MillerBOSS> Pfft that not doxing
04:47 < czarbomba> you had an Autist Moment and you won't live it down.
04:47 < gnupluslinux> maybe a good place to start?
04:47 < MillerBOSS> Get a clue
04:47 < mal_will> You first
04:47 < czarbomba> ^
04:47 < mal_will> He muted me
04:47 < gnupluslinux> i know there was a name for the thing you're looking for in windows but its escaping me
04:48 < mal_will> After doxxing me
04:48 <@cryptic1> Stop
04:48 < czarbomba> millerboss has basically ended his goodwill in this channel
04:48 < gnupluslinux> mal_will's real name is mal, last name will
04:48 < czarbomba> his constant sucking up to the mods is alll that keeps him here
04:48 < gnupluslinux> middle name _
04:48 < precise> czarbomba: +
04:48 < mal_will> Lol, more just the married and gender thing
04:48 < MillerBOSS> Wow
04:48 <+NinjaStyle> Bleh
04:48 <@cryptic1> Can u guys fucking stop
04:48 < MillerBOSS> If you don't like it /part. :)
04:49 < czarbomba> i'd rather make sure everybody knows just what sort of trash you are
04:49 < mal_will> I mean he won't
04:49 < czarbomba> but thanks for your suggestion
04:49 <@cryptic1> Take your petty arguments elsewhere
04:50 <@cryptic1> Sick of your bullsh8t drama
04:50 <@cryptic1> If all of you dont stop i will ban the whole lot of you
05:03 < czarbomba> cryptic1 would like you to know that he is absolutely not playing favorites, no way, nuh uh, nothing to see here. never mind that he banned another user for "doxing" the IP of an unmasked ircer. eyeroll.
05:04 < precise> Alright, I just want to say something real quick. Can we please just drop this shit. MillerBOSS, don't dox, IDC what your definition of "dox" is. If you reveal information about another user they don't want revealed, it's doxing. czarbomba i appreciate your sentiment, but I reviewed the buffer and saw you brought the doxxing back up, please don't do that. mal_will and NinjaStyle just ignore them,
05:04 < precise> if they keep at it, they will get bant, simple. precise, stop soapboxing, it's not cool. Now let's drop the topic, the +m, and move on. Ok? <3
05:04 < MillerBOSS> Wow people can not listen for shit
05:04 < czarbomba> precise, crimes don't just "vanish" because the mods want to pretend they didn't happen
05:04 < precise> Alright
05:04 < czarbomba> asshole gonna be asshole? i'm gonna drop bombs on asshole every time.
05:04 < precise> Peace
05:04 < czarbomba> it's what i do.
05:04 < MillerBOSS> +m for 24 hours kthxbye
05:04 < czarbomba> look. he's begging his modbuddy to censor the entire channel.
05:04 <+NinjaStyle> I appreciate it czarbomba
05:04 < czarbomba> this is what you're defending, cryptic1.
05:04 < czarbomba> fuck you, dude.
05:05 <@cryptic1> I told u idiots to stop
05:05 < czarbomba> trash sperg faggot.
05:05 <+NinjaStyle> Fuck
05:05 < Davnit> rrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeee
05:05 < mal_will> :| well
05:05  * precise meanders away
05:05 < MadCamel> wow. You know I've been in and out of here for a couple years, first such explosion I've seen.
05:05 <@cryptic1> Stop last warning
05:05 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1's just mad he's behind on his lootcrate shipments
05:06 < mal_will> Lol gnupluslinux
05:06 < MadCamel> Settle down children or we'll turn this IRC server right around and go back home, with no dinner!
05:06 < mal_will> Excellent timing
05:06 < mal_will> Ily man
05:07 < torquellini> Penises am I right
05:07 < precise> God damnit torquellini
05:07 < torquellini> Oh sorry
05:07 < precise> get out
05:07 < torquellini> *penii
05:08 < mal_will> Penne*
05:08 < torquellini> The truth is out
05:10 < rpifan> torquellini, tortellini
05:10 < torquellini> I'm going to take a shower and think of this channel while I put soap on my naked, wet body
05:10 < nohusuro> :/ czarbomba loves stirring shit, such a troll
05:10 < precise> nohusuro: I've sorta noticed that :(
05:12 < mal_will> Ever think about how much you could tell a person about a show without spoiling it?
05:12 < Davnit> if only IRC had a "x is typing" feature
05:12 < mal_will> You can get far if you're creative
05:12 < mal_will> Silicon Valley tonight was wild. Richard was in it.
05:12 < precise> Davnit: noooo
05:12 < gnupluslinux> Davnit, why in the ever loving fuck would you want that lol
05:13 < mal_will> It would get noisy
05:13 < gnupluslinux> this entire would be nothing but $ is typing
05:13 < Davnit> very valuable information to the chat experience
05:13 < precise> Not to mention all those times I'd type something up only to delete it would get called out
05:13 < gnupluslinux> with all the bots constantly keeping a single space in a buffer
05:13 < Davnit> yea that's the point lel
05:13 < precise> gnupluslinux: bah
05:13 < precise> no
05:13 < gnupluslinux> irc protocol doesnt support that anyhow best i can tell
05:14 < precise> Aight, now that the bomb has exploded, I'mma go sleep in the rubble. night
05:16 < MadCamel> irc is extensible. you could do it with ctcp and a script. if enough people did it it'd become a pseudostandard, like colors
05:16 < Davnit> ctcp would be gross but it could be a server extension
05:18 < Davnit> what i really want is for it to show the title of whatever window a user has focused next to everyone's username
05:18 < Davnit> kinda like steam and discord do with games, except for everrrrything!
05:18 < mal_will> There's up to 600 people in here though
05:18 < MadCamel> that'd be pretty bad actually. I work for some adult websites and y'all would get the wrong idea
05:19 < Davnit> i can't wait for a bug in one of these platforms to accidentally do that
05:19 < mal_will> Even 5% typing at once would get weird
05:19 < gnupluslinux> MadCamel, how's storage for that honestly
05:19 < gnupluslinux> everyone pulls from a central store yall license from or do people keep their own storage
05:20 < MadCamel> well my new gig we don't do much storage. my old gig was a tube site, we had over a petabyte in a homebrew distributed filesystem
05:20 < mal_will> What did backups look like?
05:20 < misspwn> torquellini, this makes me hungry
05:21 < misspwn> your nickname that is
05:21 < E-werd> christ you're a salty fucker czarbomba.. oh he left
05:21 < E-werd> good
05:21 < E-werd> what a disagreeable buffoon
05:21 < torquellini> It is a stronk pasta misspwn
05:21 < mal_will> I mean, I think he meant well
05:21 < Davnit> ooo here's another idea
05:22 < Davnit> everytime someone brings this conversation back up, they owe everyone else a nickel
05:22 < Davnit> we'd be riiiich!!!
05:22 < torquellini> Which conversation?
05:22 < Davnit> :shrug:
05:22 < torquellini> Sounds like my dev cycle
05:22 < MadCamel> everything was stored n+1 thanks to the distributed fs. 2 copies of every file on different servers, in different racks when it could be helped. Occasionally lost some data but it was very rare, and what's a tb or two when you're talking petabytes?
05:22 < mal_will> To quote Shaggy: She saw the marks on my shoulder (It wasn't me)
05:23 < torquellini> Is that what that line is
05:23 < mal_will> P dope MadCamel
05:23 < mal_will> I got it from Google torquellini
05:23 < torquellini> PHONY
05:23 < mal_will> I got to see hustler TVs set up
05:23 < Davnit> whose line is it, anyway?
05:23 < mal_will> Just a massive, massive tape library
05:23 < mal_will> Managed by a robot
05:24  * torquellini laughs in drew carey
05:24 < misspwn> a stronk pasta dohoho
05:24 < misspwn> it'll get you ripped
05:24 < Davnit> i too export my porn collection onto vhs tapes
05:24 < torquellini> Lennyface
05:24 < mal_will> Lol. That SysAdmin that worked it was a cray guy
05:24 < MadCamel> yeah if it were oroginal content, or even purchased licenced content, we'd have needed a hige tape library for sure. With user-uploaded content the users are sort of the backup. If someone likes it enough they'll re-upload it.
05:25 < mal_will> Idk how he did it all
05:25 < mal_will> Tru
05:25 < gnupluslinux> >users are sort of the backup. If someone likes it enough they'll re-upload it.
05:25 < gnupluslinux> hahahahahaha
05:25 < MadCamel> excuse my fat fingers.
05:25 < gnupluslinux> yall set up ur usr backup systems
05:25 < gnupluslinux> its all the rage
05:25 < Davnit> its annoying how there's always a dozen slightly different versions of the same clip
05:26 < mal_will> Lol I did that at work
05:26 < mal_will> One department insisted on bit by bit backups of old user computers
05:26 < gnupluslinux> put em together to get the whole scene
05:26 < mal_will> I was like, buy yourselves and external, leave me out
05:26 < mal_will> How do you find those Davnit
05:27 < Davnit> not even different parts of it, but like one video is 4:19 and another will be 5:42 and there's a bunch of overlap or its a completely different cut or something
05:27 < mal_will> I've never worked with video
05:28 < mal_will> Is there some software to help you find dupes?
05:28 < Davnit> or when you are looking for the full video and all you get are dozens of results for the previews
05:29 < Davnit> there is video-specific dupe detection but with user generated content it can get kinda tricky
05:29 < torquellini> He wasn't a crayfish mal_will ?
05:29 < mal_will> He could have been
05:29 < MadCamel> there's software to fingerprint videos, sort of a fuzzy-checksum type thing. can be used to find dupes regardless of re-encodes etc.
05:29 < mal_will> He showed up to meet with me in a ripped t shirt, haha
05:29 < torquellini> Ewwww
05:30 < Davnit> google needs to put their deep-learning machines to this task
05:30 < mal_will> Dope MadCamel
05:30 < mal_will> Yassss dedupe the internet's porn
05:30 < torquellini> This is the path to world peace
05:30 < Davnit> until they start doing automatic copyright detection on all the videos as well
05:31 < mal_will> Mo money in Creator's hands?
05:31 < Davnit> when the creator is a shady porn studio idk
05:32 < MadCamel> that's expensive, both computationally and in staff. It's not something most video sites are interested in doing unless legally required. Like youtube's content-id is the result of a settlement..
05:32 < Davnit> youtube's policies have gone off the deep end lately
05:32 < torquellini> I know someone trying to break into the youtube market
05:33 < mal_will> I don't fully get the demonitization issue
05:33 < torquellini> She not smart but I hope the best for her
05:33 < gnupluslinux> lol torquellini
05:33 < MadCamel> torquellini: good luck to her, we need alternatives
05:33 < mal_will> I'm watching on older YouTuber video now, about how stressful YouTube fame is
05:33 < Davnit> youtube really needs to get hit for it
05:33 < torquellini> No I mean like as a content creator MadCamel
05:33 < MadCamel> oh. derp
05:33 < Davnit> they're no longer just removing videos for being illegal
05:33 < Davnit> they're removing them for not being advertiser friendly
05:33 < torquellini> Basically
05:34 < Davnit> aka they are curating videos
05:34 < mal_will> It's like, curse words and stuff?
05:34 < torquellini> But Spiderman can get giggity with Elsa
05:34 < mal_will> Spoderman and ilsa
05:34 < Davnit> which means they are controlling content, but still keeping the protections given to companies that are supposed to ONLY host other peoples content
05:34 < mal_will> Is it video by video, or whole channels?
05:34 < torquellini> And you can advocate that kids shoot their siblings in the head
05:34 < MadCamel> codyslab had to remove his mining videos because they dealt with explosives. Explosives. In a licensed mine. On the guy's own property. Yeah.. YT has gone to hell
05:35 < torquellini> Codyslab got fucked hard
05:35 < torquellini> That dude has some awesome and informative content too
05:35 < Davnit> yea there's lots of stuff like that
05:35 < mal_will> So just videos?
05:35 < torquellini> Yeah videos
05:35 < mal_will> And you can remove them and get money back?
05:35 < Davnit> scientists getting fucked because chemistry is dangerous by nature
05:35 < torquellini> But they have 3 strikes on channels
05:36 < torquellini> So mal_will like Codyslab got hit with the 3 strike rule and was banned for like a month or so
05:36 < mal_will> Woah
05:36 < mal_will> I like the drug guy
05:36 < mal_will> He'll tell you all about ketamine
05:37 < mal_will> I hope he's still getting money
05:37 < Davnit> the automated system has suspended some big channels outright even when they are partners and stuff
05:37 < technonerd> psysch substance?
05:37 < misspwn> not enough tide pod videos on youtube
05:37 < Davnit> and then they leave the owner with no way to contact youtube or any kind of recourse
05:37 < Davnit> just because a robot or flag brigade decided they didn't like them for whatever reason
05:37 < mal_will> I think so technonerd I'll check
05:38 < mal_will> Yep, psyched substance
05:38 < torquellini> But that's why patreon is blowing up rn
05:38 < Davnit> patreon has its own problems with that too
05:38 < mal_will> Exactly, life, uh, finds a way
05:39 < Davnit> just it hasn't happened as much
05:39 < torquellini> CC's are turning to patreon to keep the lights on. Even cyanide and happiness has been demonetized
05:39 < torquellini> Yeah patreon almost goofed bad recently but they course corrected i think
05:40 < mal_will> I accidentally saw a man get fisted onstage on a drag queen patreon
05:40 < mal_will> I'd like to know what IS being flagged
05:41 < MadCamel> I wonder if the policies will hurt youtube in the end. If you demonetize enough content people are getting free video hosting. Also they are willing to jump ship to new platforms. (Though with NN being gone that may be impossible now)
05:41 < torquellini> Some saying penis mal_will
05:41 < torquellini> I don't know if computers can interpret fisting
05:41 < MadCamel> They'll be able to soon.
05:41 < torquellini> Put me out of work
05:42 < enix> So did this edit yesterday from a random facebook photo https://imgur.com/a/wzwFMVY
05:42 < Davnit> i'm pretty sure porn is okay on patreon, or at least i know several artists that draw porn use it and give their work as rewards
05:42 < enix> Hands down my favorite eidt
05:42 < enix> s/eidt/edit
05:42 < mal_will> Lol, computer aided fisting identification
05:42 < JollyRgrs> cafi
05:42 < torquellini> AutoFIST
05:42 < mal_will> "I'm a cafi Dev"
05:43 < Davnit> cloudCAFI
05:43 < mal_will> Legit though, graveyard girl is crazy loaded, crazy crazy loaded on youtube
05:43 < torquellini> Graveyard girl will be my wife
05:43 < mal_will> If you play the game, it's worth it, it seems
05:43 < MadCamel> I hear google's in the process of bringing a ton of TPU's online. tensor processing units - inaccurate but extremely fast chips optimized for AI. Like each single rack they bring online would be #1 in the top500 supercomputer list if the benchmarks were allowed to have ballparked answers.
05:43 < mal_will> You know of her torquellini
05:44 < enix> wtf is graveyard girl
05:44 < torquellini> I love her
05:44 < enix> really
05:44 < enix> bit of a mutt dont you reckon
05:45 < torquellini> DONT YOU DARE TALK ABOUT MY BABY GIRL LIKE THAT
05:45 < mal_will> She has a Tesla and a Porsche and a mansion
05:45 < mal_will> With an arcade room
05:45 < enix> You cant be serious
05:46 < mal_will> The mansion has things like hand carved front doors
05:46 < MadCamel> people get paid big money just to be popular now
05:46 < enix> mal_will: you're fucking with me right
05:46 < mal_will> Custom wrought (not cast) iron stair cases
05:46 < mal_will> Not even a little enix
05:46 < torquellini> I used to want to be so rich that I could buy a human person on a whim
05:46 < Davnit> people have always been paid big money to be popular
05:46 < MadCamel> would you eat them or just let them go to waste?
05:47 < Davnit> just now they don't have to suck off harvey weinstein anymore
05:47 < mal_will> Ever customize a house? And think "I'll get the square door frames, they're cheaper than the round"
05:47 < torquellini> Nah I'd probably send them to trade school or something
05:47 < MadCamel> nice
05:47 < mal_will> She has POINTY door frames
05:47 < mal_will> M o n e y
05:47 < Davnit> i want my front door to be diamond shaped
05:48 < Davnit> also made out of diamonds
05:48 < torquellini> Rhomboid or gtfo
05:48 < mal_will> https://youtu.be/jh65HFArNu8
05:48 < torquellini> NO WAIT
05:48 < mal_will> Sorry for the Shane dawson
05:48 < torquellini> SPHERICAL DOORS
05:48 < enix> so fucked
05:48 < Davnit> shane dawson has $$$ too
05:48 < torquellini> Don't apologize for my gay banana mal_will
05:49 < mal_will> Like a rotating bank door torquellini ?
05:49 < MadCamel> I want to be rich enough to live undisturbed in a shack in the woods, off-grid except for gigabit internet and pizza delivery.
05:49 < mal_will> I'm not into shane
05:49 < torquellini> Nah like a straight up globe
05:49 < mal_will> Yeah graveyard girl hides most of her house but you see some junk
05:49 < mal_will> Ultimate mantrap torquellini so secure
05:54 < mal_will> Even her chairs look hella expensive
05:54 < enix> i want to punch her face
05:55 < mal_will> I'm sure she feels the same about you <3
05:55 < mal_will> Probably not
05:55 < torquellini> I'll punch your face
05:56 < Church-> MadCamel: That'd be nice.
05:56 < enix> torquellini: I WILL FUCKING SKULL FUCK YOU
05:56 < torquellini> No don't
05:56 < enix> ok
05:56 < torquellini> You'll arouse me
05:57 < enix> hahahaha
05:57 < Disconsented> enix> Okay hartman
05:59 < JollyRgrs> enix: no you won't
05:59 < JollyRgrs> no one will ever do that when they say they will
05:59 < JollyRgrs> empty promises
05:59 < JollyRgrs> and now torquellini will be aroused for nothing
06:00 < mal_will> Poor torquellini 's penne
06:00 < torquellini> :(
06:00 < Davnit> F
06:00 < mal_will> The pasta did nothing wrong
06:00 < JollyRgrs> F
06:00 < enix> Disconsented: huh?
06:01 < enix> My agenda for the day is: 1) Dont be bothered, 2) Re-evaluate list and reprioritize.
06:04 < Disconsented> https://youtu.be/3j3_iPskjxk?t=4m54s
06:06 < E-werd> bai
06:06 < enix> LOL
06:07 < enix> Disconsented: is that where that's from
06:07 < enix> I legitimately just thought it was teh act of cramming your cock so far down someones throat and violently fucking them
06:07 < enix> which sounds like fun
06:07 < enix> You know... if it reaches that far back
06:11 < torquellini> Start shitting me tiffany cuff link
06:11 < torquellini> I fucking love that movie
06:15 < Disconsented> Too bad R. Lee Ermey died a month ago
06:26 < Casteil> time for some gutter guards
06:26 < Casteil> I've had this house for ~7 months and cleaned the gutters at least 3 times
06:26 < Casteil> just got a heavy rain and gutters were overflowing again because of the crap the maple near my house dropped on the roof/in the gutter
06:27 < eHAPPY> any reason a VMware key wont attach to my account but activates fine?
06:30 < MadCamel> train the squirrels to empty your gutters. pay them in food.
06:37 < enix> Nostalg14c: you're very quiet lately
07:32 < torquellini> You know what the best part about scooping peanut butter into your face in the middle of the night
07:33 < torquellini> Putting the spoon in the peanut butter, taking the peanut butter out, putting the peanut butter in my mouth, tasting the peanut butter
07:33 < torquellini> The time of night is pretty alright too
07:38 < enix> torquellini: peanut butter cravings are typically associated with periods of unhealthy stress or deficiencies in your diet.
07:38 < nohusuro> enix: or peanut butter is just damned delicious
07:38 < torquellini> Unhealthy stress sounds about right
07:39 < torquellini> I am definitely a stress eater
07:39 < enix> nohusuro: Not neccersarily
07:39 < enix> tbh though I wouldnt mind some peanut butter
07:40 < nohusuro> sometimes when I get home and haven't cooked dinner yet, I will eat a teaspoon of peanut butter and have a cup of tea to stem any hunger pangs
07:40 < enix> Yeah that's pretty normal
07:41 < enix> I used to do it while body building, because I'd be awake till about 3am in the morning but met all my macros for the day and needed to tide myself over until I slept
07:41 < enix> peanut butter is fantastic
07:42 < nohusuro> I'm so glad we decommissioned one of our NAS boxes years ago, we've been using it for backup archives since, and yesterday it decided to drop one of the drives out of the RAID without warning
07:43 < nohusuro> upon rebooting it told us that drive had failed, so we replaced it with a new one
07:43 < nohusuro> then boom. it tells us four drives have failed
07:43 < torquellini> Did you replace it with peanut butter
07:43 < nohusuro> they've obviously been dying for a while, but the NAS was so garbage that it didn't tell us
07:43 < nohusuro> so happy we replaced it with nimble arrays instead
07:45 < nohusuro> the old system is so garbage, we pulled out a disk, and it still thinks it's connected.
07:45 < nohusuro> I can run a smart check on it and everything
07:45 < nohusuro> pulled 4 disks, only 3 missing in the webui
07:45 < nohusuro> xD
07:46 < enix> You can run a smart check on a disk that doesn't exist
08:04 < nohusuro> just had a laptop returned from warranty, ended up replacing the motherboard. the user setup bitlocker and didn't record their recovery key :/. Sorry man, your shit is gone.
08:21 < enix> oooucchh
08:22 < enix> to be fair though I wouldn't know my own
08:27 < JoShi> could anyone point me into a direction on how to create a user account that only has access to 1 website and MS Word?
08:30 < enix> JoShi: google.com
08:30 < enix> Windows or Linux?
08:30 < JoShi> windows
08:31 < enix> https://windows.gadgethacks.com/how-to/restrict-guest-users-one-app-windows-10-0164584/
08:31 < enix> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/556044
08:32 < nohusuro> enix, it wasn't so bad, it turns out they have most of their files on dropbox
08:32 < Apooti_> mornin' nerds
08:32 < nohusuro> but I don't know how they happened to enable bitlocker without realising what they were doing
08:32 < nohusuro> I'm imaging the drive before wiping it in-case they find where they kept the recovery key
08:32 < enix> dont you enable it when you install
08:32  * nohusuro shrugs
08:33 < enix> honestly ive never used it but i think it's configured on install once
08:33 < nohusuro> I'm just the middle man with this laptop, it's a one of the owners family members laptops
08:33 < xe0n> middle man...you're the meat in the sandwich
08:33 < nohusuro> mmm
08:33 < nohusuro> meat
08:34 < nohusuro> mm
08:34 < nohusuro> sammich
08:35 < xe0n> open face club sandwedge
08:35 < enix> open wide
08:35 < enix> come inside
08:37 < Apooti_> any recommendations for a good label printer? mostly for marking cables but also for anything else such as crates etc etc
08:37 < enix> whatevers cheap
08:37 < xe0n> dymo
08:37 < enix> cheap for sticker thingies
08:37 < MillerBOSS> https://www.amazon.com/DYMO-LetraTag-LT-100H-Handheld-21455/dp/B000II09IM Apooti_
08:37 < Apooti_> i dont mind cheap or not, i just need it to work well and preferably have some sort of API
08:37 < MillerBOSS> Works awesome
08:38 < MillerBOSS> Hopefully you can find it in your country
08:38 < xe0n> Apooti_: dymo does
08:38 < xe0n> we use the API here to do our labels
08:38 < Apooti_> MillerBOSS, i dont think we have dymo here
08:38 < Apooti_> scratch that, we do have
08:38 < MillerBOSS> What country are you in?
08:39 < Apooti_> Israel
08:39 < MillerBOSS> Amazon there?
08:39 < xe0n> Apooti_: we use a internal app to do our labelling, which uses the dymo print API
08:39 < Apooti_> i need a local supplier so i can get a service contract with it
08:40 < Apooti_> i'll end up buying 5+ of these if i find what i need
08:40 < MillerBOSS> Really? They thing is very inexpensive Apooti_
08:40 < MillerBOSS> The*
08:40 < Apooti_> the labels end up being fairly expensive though
08:40 < Apooti_> so far i've been working with Brother's P-Touch series
08:40 < Apooti_> and they're meh
08:41 < Apooti_> was looking at the Zebra industrial printers but none of them have tape fit for labeling cables
08:42 < Apooti_> i do have one Zebra ZT410 and its awesome for what it does, but shit at labeling cables
08:43 < xe0n> Apooti_: http://www.dymo.com/en-AU/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/xtl%3Csup%3E%E2%84%A2%3C-sup%3E-300-xtl-300--1016
08:43 < Apooti_> xe0n, yea, im looking at the XTL 300 and 500 right now, looks cool
08:45 < MillerBOSS> Wow that labeler
08:45 < MillerBOSS> Maybe I need one of those
08:48 < Apooti_> i think ill actually go for the XTL 500, looks really neat
09:33 < enix> I cannot wait to leave this job holy shit
09:34 < PrincessZoey> hey
09:35 < Apooti_> enix, how bad is it?
09:35 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, yo
09:35 < enix> Pretty bad
09:35 < enix> PrincessZoey: long time no see
09:35 < PrincessZoey> I never realized losing your job that you've been at the longest and put your heart and soul to sucks :/
09:36 < Apooti_> enix, as bad as a beer that's been left open for two days?
09:36 < PrincessZoey> just signed everything over officially
09:36 < enix> About the same yeah Apooti_
09:36 < Apooti_> enix, damn, that sucks
09:36 < enix> PrincessZoey: ouch :\ what happened
09:37 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, i know that feel, last time i even got to watch everything fall apart prior to actually leaving
09:37 < PrincessZoey> I'm moving next month, and even thought I work remote now, they refused to let me work remote after I move.
09:37 < PrincessZoey> they're leaving with 1.5 broken daily machines and broken wifi
09:38 < PrincessZoey> they wanted my work laptop back but I laughed in their face.
09:38 < MadCamel> well, new area, new opportunities?
09:38 < PrincessZoey> that's the hope.
09:38 < PrincessZoey>  I do have a question for y'all
09:39 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, did you already find something else or are you taking some time off before job hunting?
09:39 < PrincessZoey> taking time off.
09:39 < PrincessZoey> too much bullshit to take care of RL here
09:39 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, as long as you have the financial ability to do so, its probably the best option between jobs
09:39 < PrincessZoey> I have all my job stuff still on linkedin. what do I say if they want to talk my boss.
09:39 < PrincessZoey> we did NOT leave on good terms
09:40 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, how much of a douche was he?
09:40 < PrincessZoey> me refusing to give back my work laptop was the last straw (there was no legal way they could have demanded it back)
09:41 < PrincessZoey> my work laptop was written off and tossed in the pile to be sent for ewaste, has a ton of parts I paid for out of my money, and I mailed them the SSD with all the "company data" on it (which was none)
09:42 < MadCamel> Depending on the size of the company they may not even want to talk to your old boss. If they do, in most cases, it's just to verify you worked there. They can't really discuss anything else without possible legal liability.
09:42 < PrincessZoey> they were up in arms about the quickbooks company file that 1) I don't keep on my laptop, 2) don't have a login for, 3) don't have quickbooks installed, and 4) never dealt with.
09:42 < MadCamel> So if they ask, just say that you don't feel it would be appropriate and provide a means to verify that you were previously employed there
09:42 < Apooti_> ^
09:43 < PrincessZoey> otherwise I have a 14 year gap in my job history
09:45 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, after 14 years i guess you should have some sort of proof other than your boss's word
09:48 < PrincessZoey> my boss knew nothing of what I did
09:48 < PrincessZoey> because they never saw anything broken
09:48 < PrincessZoey> because I was the kind of girl that'd get an alerting monitor at 2am, drive to the office to take care of the problem, do other maintence until around 6am, say hi to my boss, then drive 3 hours to go to college.
09:49 < MadCamel> another tip.. apply for positions that you think are way above your previous experience. Just make sure they're not above your learning ability. Gives you the chance to make more money, obviously. But the non-obvious thing is that the higher the position, the less applicants.
09:49 < MadCamel> So you gain a chance at getting personal attention and perhaps getting a gig you thought had 0 chance at getting
09:50 < PrincessZoey> I almost got a 2nd interview for a devops engineer in CA. I turned it down once I heard the price, and what my friend in the same position made.
09:51 < PrincessZoey> they offered me $55K a year, my friend in the same position makes $110,000
09:51 < MadCamel> ... 55k/year... in CA? That's like live-in-your-car wages
09:53 < PrincessZoey> yeah.
09:53 < PrincessZoey> and they accidentally let it slip I was 100% being considered for being a diversity hire.
09:53 < PrincessZoey> because they can't get girls in that department to save their souls
09:53 < Apooti_> nice...
09:54  * MadCamel facepalms
09:55 < MadCamel> well.. I guess if you wanted you could use the diversity-hire thing to your advantage, but I personally think any company that hires based on gender instead of skill probably wouldn't be a great place to work
09:56 < PrincessZoey> I mean I have the skills in what I applied for kinda.
09:56 < Apooti_> MadCamel, "diversity-hire" can be a tie breaker between two candidates but shouldn't be the sole reason for hire
09:56 < PrincessZoey> (if you remove the I use Ansible for a living and they're all chef thing)
09:56 < MadCamel> Apooti_: good point
09:57 < PrincessZoey> the boss looked at my resume and said he wanted me not knowing I was female
09:57 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, if you managed to pick up Ansible, then it shouldn't be hard to swap over to chef
09:59 < MadCamel> yeeh ell cunffeegooreshun munegement systems hefe-a a lut in cummun. ifee svedeesh cheff
10:01 < MadCamel> my favorite this year is nixos though. entire os is declarative configured from a single file. Built from the ground up to be like that. Makes puppet/chef/ansible look like horrible hacks in comparison
10:03 < togen> if only Ansible, Puppet, Chef or Salt ever hired a tech writer
10:03 < togen> or much of the FOSS for that matter
10:04 < MadCamel> mmm. tech writers seem in very short supply indeed
10:04 < Apooti_> MadCamel, best os is TempleOS
10:05 < Apooti_> no need to configuration management since there's no networking
10:05 < MadCamel> I remember the old SunOS documentation, BSDi too. Good stuff.
10:05 < togen> IBM Knowledge base is OP
10:05 < togen> Red Hat isn't too bad but I work with ubuntu
10:06 < MadCamel> Apooti_: TempleOS causes brain damage though
10:14 < Apooti_> MadCamel, its a feature, not a bug
10:38 < PrincessZoey> god I love my fiancee.
10:44 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, isn't that how it's supposed to work?
10:45 < PrincessZoey> I mentioned that I wanted to go back to college to get a better job.
10:45 < PrincessZoey> he flat out said "Then do it, your income isn't a priority anymore"
10:47 < ihre> s/fiancee/sugardaddy
10:47 < ihre> :3
10:47 < ihre> hmmmmm to go to reinvent or not :|
11:19 < Roxamis> hey guys is there a way to make anywhere access vpn clients to use the Domain DNS server?
11:23 < Hatsjoe> Roxamis: you can push the DNS server the client should use via the VPN server
11:24 < Hatsjoe> ihre: you should go, I
11:24 < Hatsjoe> I'll maybe go too
11:29 < ihre> maybe just for vegas
11:29 < ihre> fuck aws
11:29 < ihre> ;D
11:29 < Roxamis> Hatsjoe, I used the anywhere accesss wizard to setup the vpn
11:31 < Roxamis> i think it pushes the correct dns server info
11:38 < Hatsjoe> Roxamis: I only have experience with manual VPN configurations and setups so can't help you with 'Anywhere'.
11:38 < Hatsjoe> But normally you need to manually define any DNS servers you want to push via VPN
11:38 < Hatsjoe> ihre: agreed, lets gamble
11:39 < Roxamis> Hatsjoe, vpn clients get settings from dhcp, as far as i can tell, that gives also dns server address, but client uses the main connection dns (home router/isp)
11:41 < Roxamis> Hatsjoe, is there any config i need to di client side?
11:48 < ihre> https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/service-catalog/ this is pretty sweet
11:51 < ihre> Hatsjoe: i'll sign up for a ticket at work, its being raffled between 4 people as it appears
11:53 < PrincessZoey> ...my fiancee is going to kill me
12:05 < Apooti_> PrincessZoey, that escalated quickly from "I love him" to "he is going to kill me"
12:10 < PrincessZoey> I was looking at insurance on the marketplace and I used his current address not planning on applying for anything. on the page it's supposed to display your options it said it applied to Arkansas Medicaid for me
12:32 < PrincessZoey> mfw it's faster to find the git code you need downloading it via github than looking through your system
12:33 < audia5> if you won on lottery powerball many millions who would you tell it :)
12:39 < PrincessZoey> let's see if this works...
12:42 < Apooti_> uhhh... i'm not a SUSE guy, so maybe i'm missing some keywords in google but... is SLES12 SP4 even available?
12:42 < Apooti_> note the SP4, not SP3
12:46 < FenJai> Sup dudes
12:46 < Apooti_> yo
12:47 < PrincessZoey> work demanded my work laptop back. I said over my dead body
12:48 < PrincessZoey> any other company I'd do it no problem
12:48 < FenJai> You got a new job PrincessZoey ?
12:48 < PrincessZoey> no
12:49 < PrincessZoey> 1) they wrote the laptop off years ago and it spent 3+ years waiting to get hauled off to ewaste recycling. 2) there's a bunch of my own parts in it, 3) Everything they worried about was proven false
12:51 < PrincessZoey> they were terrified I'd reek havoc with having a copy of the company file. 1)I don't have a copy. 2) the copy I had is over 5 years old now, 3) I don't have the proper username and password to login because I make everyone use a non stupid password, and if I saw a stick it on a PC I expired the password.
13:02 < xe0n> lolll
13:02 < xe0n> did you actually say "over your dead body"
13:04 < PrincessZoey> yep
13:04 < PrincessZoey> it's 6 years old and work wrote it off years ago
13:07 < PrincessZoey> the sad thing is it's more powerful than my desktop if it had a better GPU
13:08 < FenJai> I bet is a brick though
13:08 < FenJai> Heavy as fuck
13:08 < PrincessZoey> yeah it is
13:08 < PrincessZoey> it's 2.5x my personal laptop
13:09 < PrincessZoey> but I'd put up with a brick for a quad core with hyperthreading high end i7, 32gb of ram and a 250gb SSD.
13:09 < PrincessZoey> I just wish the display wasn't awful
13:10 < PrincessZoey> dumb question, how is my letsencrypt script still issuing test scripts with certbot certonly --agree-tos -a standalone -m {{ cfemail }} -d {{domainLong}} -d www.{{domainLong}}?
13:11 < PrincessZoey> oh, wrong branch
13:13 < PrincessZoey> checked out my testing branch instead of live
13:15 < PrincessZoey> now I wonder what old ass version of PHP it just installed
13:25 < rhqq> fuck, it's raining
13:25 < rhqq> and my only mean of transport i can use is a bike :/
13:27 < ihre> you pleb
13:28 < rhqq> haha
13:28 < rhqq> look at yourself
13:28 < rhqq> ;p
13:28 < ihre> i dont even have a bike
13:29 < rhqq> oh man, you dont fit your own country ;p
13:29 < ihre> well that depends on your pov
13:29 < ihre> it was stolen half a year ago
13:29 < ihre> so that fits the netherlands alright
13:29 < rhqq> its said you buy only first bike up there
13:29 < rhqq> ;p
13:29 < ihre> yup
13:29 < rhqq> so now you can use anyones
13:29 < rhqq> ;-)
13:30 < ihre> i use commie transport
13:30 < ihre> 'our trains, our trams'
13:30 < ihre> :P
13:30 < rhqq> it would be a commie transport if it was "free"
13:30 < rhqq> but holding you hostage until last stop
13:31 < rhqq> then beating the shit out of you
13:31 < ihre> well i dont have to pay a dime for it, $boss does :p
13:31 < rhqq> and eventually killing if they figure out you actually used a car for once
13:31 < rhqq> ;p
13:54 < CheckYourSix> Ok, Tuesday is already worse than Monday. The stupid fucks that set up the entire telecom room at this site have redundant fiber. What's the power for those things plugged into? A fucking residential grade Walmart power strip with no battery backup or anything... So if the power drops for even a second, like this morning, the internet dies until those things come back online.... And on top of that, the phone gateways are plugged
13:54 < CheckYourSix> into non redundant power too... I got a call from the AT&T woman asking what's going on. Luckily everything only dropped offline for 20 minutes after a 2 second power blip, but still. How are people who set this shit up still employed? Oh, and the UPS is saying it needs new batteries and wants attention. It's an ancient APC and it probably doesn't last long. Fucks. I've only been here 30 minutes and I've already had too much
13:54 < CheckYourSix> stupid for one day.
13:56 < rhqq> well, it's not your fault, then what's the fuss
13:57 < rhqq> geez, not surprised that many people in IT are burning out or having mental issues
13:57 < PEG> a client has gerrit repo, how do I connect to it with Visual Studio Code ?
13:57 < rhqq> you stress over something that you have no control over. that's pointless
13:57 < CheckYourSix> Because now I have to call IT and get them to fix all that so it's not a problem going forward. One more project to manage
13:57 < rhqq> they pay you for that
13:58 < rhqq> and that's absolutely nothing unusual
13:58 < rhqq> especially that sounds like few calls and emails
13:58 < CheckYourSix> Stress? Not really. Just can't understand why people are so fucking stupid
13:58 < rhqq> they are. that's like you know, function that always returns `true`
13:58 < CheckYourSix> Haha yeah
13:59 < CheckYourSix> Finding people who give a shit and know what they're doing seems to get harder and harder
13:59 < rhqq> not really
13:59 < rhqq> it's been difficult for ages
13:59 < rhqq> in every single profession
13:59 < CheckYourSix> I know it's in every profession
14:00 < rhqq> you just ended up bumping into a potential idiot
14:00 < L3gacy> Morning peeps
14:00 < L3gacy> My chest and right arm are ACHING.
14:00  * L3gacy hates racking servers
14:00 < CheckYourSix> This was all set up long before I got here and whoever did it is long gone from years ago
14:01 < L3gacy> Morning, CheckYourSix
14:01 < rhqq> well, maybe they didn't have anything to use and the requirement for that time was "to get it up asap at any cost"
14:01 < CheckYourSix> So I fix everything I run into. So far that's a ton of stuff in this facility
14:01 < CheckYourSix> Morning
14:01 < CheckYourSix> That's probably true
14:01 < rhqq> so again
14:01 < rhqq> they might have did their job just right
14:01  * L3gacy slides CheckYourSix a blt with garlic aioli on toasted briioche bread
14:01 < rhqq> your predecessor most likely fucked up by not leaving any appropriate note
14:02 < rhqq> so seem to be even blaming wrong people :-)
14:02 < L3gacy> I document ALL the things.  Even if a screw is missing :P
14:02 < CheckYourSix> Keep in mind too this is a megacorp and there's no excuse. They have money to no end.
14:02  * L3gacy is missing a screw or 3
14:02 < CheckYourSix> Haha
14:02 < rhqq> nooooo, IT does not produce income, right?
14:02 < rhqq> ;p
14:02 < L3gacy> I'm about to re cable my homlab
14:02 < rhqq> s/income/profit
14:02 < L3gacy> diff color cable for each server, diff color for iLO
14:03 < CheckYourSix> Not directly. But IT damn sure affects revenue and profit
14:03 < L3gacy> I got a 24 port Csico gb switch :)
14:03 < CheckYourSix> Nice
14:03 < rhqq> CheckYourSix: i know, i was making a reference to typical accounting dept whore
14:03 < L3gacy> So.... It's ONT > pfsense > G1100 router, and 24 port switch, then from switch to each server :)
14:03 < L3gacy> or should I try VyOS?
14:04 < CheckYourSix> Yeah. Bean counters see black and white and what the numbers on the page are. They don't see the big picture
14:04 < rhqq> anyway, it stopped raining, going to my accountant... >.>
14:04 < CheckYourSix> Have fun
14:04 < L3gacy> I'm getting a Dell PE R410 with two 6 core 12 threads and 72GB for free today :)
14:04 < L3gacy> Old job decomming :)
14:05 < L3gacy> No drives, tho
14:05 < CheckYourSix> The ram is worth money
14:05 < L3gacy> ESXI time!
14:05 < CheckYourSix> Unless it's 4gb, then not so much
14:05 < L3gacy> 8GB DDR3 Regged
14:05 < L3gacy> I have a ton of 1, and 2 gb sticks of that...
14:06 < CheckYourSix> Oh and my AD account already got locked out this morning for nothing... They've been randomly locking accounts for no reason lately. Happened to some coworkers too
14:06 < L3gacy> off to a job site... take care
14:07 < SynMonger> I had a user tell me their account kept getting locked out. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out why
14:08 < CheckYourSix> My coworker had it happen to him 2 times...
14:08 < SynMonger> Turns out my boss added a static nat entry for them so they could remote in to their computer but didn't tell me and it was open to the world
14:08 < CheckYourSix> Wow
14:09 < CheckYourSix> I know that's not a problem here
14:10 < CheckYourSix> They're probably screwing up and thinking the accounts are inactive so they're locking them. They shut off my phone TWICE because it was listed inactive
14:10 < Casteil> lmfao
14:11 < CheckYourSix> Once when I was in AZ for a work trip. I was dead in the water for a day
14:11 < Casteil> "lets design a new way of doing commissions and not fucking tell ANYONE, then start bitching that there's not a way to get the information that was never requested!"
14:12 < giant_it_burrit> morning bby
14:21 < asimon> Good morning my friends
14:31 < SynMonger> isn't it a bit early for badmin abuse?
14:35 < corn266> mornin all
14:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> hello
14:41 < corn266> https://i.redditmedia.com/pzf8QRXNhHIVduBYb-shs_1jFNW8FqY0gPPAGEXwRZo.jpg?s=5b586888a0f19629b1f88b94cc9e7ca3
14:43 <@cryptic1> SynMonger, abuse? hardly
14:43 <@cryptic1> morning everyone
14:43 < ihre> a b u s e @ c r y p t i c 1 . c o m
14:43 <@cryptic1> SynMonger, he was warned multiple times last night
14:43 < ihre> for complaints
14:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> real talk
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> How many days lead time do you guys require for equipment and access and all that?
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> for new users
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> i'm sick of "$person is starting tomorrow" bullshit
14:44 < corn266> 7 days is what I've usually seen
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah 7 is what I'm gunning for
14:44 < corn266> s/days/business days
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> did'nt know if that was too try hardish
14:44 < McDonaldsWiFi> 5 business days
14:45 < ihre> new job McDonaldsWiFi?
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> nah but its complicated
14:45 < corn266> 6 business days and I'll throw in some free hand sanitizer
14:45 < asimon> McDonaldsWiFi: I feel you - I've gotten the "hey $newemployee arrived at 8:00 this morning can you get them set up with a full computer system and mailbox yesterday?"
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> we merged with another company, and our old IT ways aren't cutting it anymore
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> asimon: those requests make my brain bleed lol
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> I usually tell them too bad tbh
14:45 < ihre> not agile enough?!
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> It's to the point where I'm having to schedule time to do anything, no way I'm ruining my schedule ecause they couldn't tell me a week ago they were interviewing people
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> idk, I'm pissy today and i'm whisper in some ears to get this policy put in lol
14:46 < corn266> McDonaldsWiFi: can't you offload that on the helldesk guys?
14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> corn266: it's a SMB (kinda)
14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> there's 2 admins
14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> who do it all
14:48 < ihre> :(
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've been telling them I need a helpdesk guy but you guys know how that probably went
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
14:48 < corn266> nevermind then
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> 1100+ users with tech
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> 2 IT
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> I need a 7 day lead time dammit
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> well I feel better lol
14:49 < ihre> jeez, sounds like the company i left ~2months ago ;p
14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> When I go bitchin today I will at least know my demands aren't too high
14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> sigh
14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> because of the merge and whatnot they are changing pretty much ALL operations around
14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> but they aren't including IT in these changes until its on fire
14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> this sounds like a rant post on /r/sysadmin lol
14:49 < Nightcinder> ...
14:49 < Nightcinder> my outlook keeps switching from black to colorful
14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> you have a black outlook
14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> you can have themes in outlook...?
14:50 < ihre> very grim
14:50 < Nightcinder> yes?
14:50 < Nightcinder> file options theme
14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> i... never even thought of that
14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> I want dark theme
14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> Nightcinder: I love you
14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> okay enough of my spam today, afk a min lol
14:50 < asimon> The themes are honeslty kind of weird
14:50 < Nightcinder> message body is still white tho
14:50 < asimon> Exactly
14:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> Nightcinder: oh nevermind :(
14:50 < asimon> Same with word and shit
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> I wish file explorer had a dark theme
14:51 < Nightcinder> soon!
14:51 < asimon> The UI theme is nice but because it doesn't propagate to the main content body it just adds a shitton of contrast
14:51 < Nightcinder> MS just put it into the latest preview
14:51 < Nightcinder> https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/microsoft-adds-a-dark-theme-to-file-explorer-in-the-latest-windows-10-update/
14:51 < Nightcinder> McDonaldsWiFi: ^^^^^
14:51 < asimon> "But should you upgrade to the Insider builds? Probably not, if you use your PC for anything useful other than testing. "
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> you are the them god
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> theme*
14:52 < Nightcinder> insider is hit/miss
14:52 < Nightcinder> slow ring is fine
14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> but its coming
14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> if its in the works ya know
14:52 < Nightcinder> If you want to enable a dark theme on Windows 10 today, you can do that easily by just going to Settings > Personalization > Colors and changing the “choose your app mode” option to dark. That’ll change most of Windows to use a dark theme, but it won’t update your applications.
14:52 < Nightcinder> fyi
14:52 < Nightcinder> it changes the windows apps like settings
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> Windows 10 makes me want to run debian full time
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
14:54 < Nightcinder> i <3 win10
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> if it wasn't for all the dam spying :(
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> I should wireshark my connnection and see how much they send
14:54 < Nightcinder> no more than win7 did
14:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> i don't believe that
14:55 < vinrock> thats only because they updated win7 to spy on you as well
14:55 < vinrock> but still, win10 spies a lot more
14:55 < vinrock> and ms has the ability to block and uninstall apps they dont like
14:55 < vinrock> its in the eula
14:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> windows 10 forces a lot of you too, settings, updates, etc
14:56 < Nightcinder> i picked up my phone yesterday and it was telling me what song was playing through my headphones
14:56 < vinrock> they store your bitlocker keys in ~the_cloud~
14:56 < Nightcinder> however i was using youtube not spotify..
14:56 < Nightcinder> it identified the song via leakage from my headphones
14:56 < Nightcinder> lol
14:56 < vinrock> aural leakage
14:59 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: that's right, don't you have some really nice open back headphones?
14:59 < Nightcinder> multiple
15:00 < Nightcinder> wearing closedbacks right now cause at work
15:03 < GreyKite> Yeah, my main pair is closed because I use them at work
15:04 < JollyRgrs> 83 tabs open in firefox... < 750MB memory used. not bad (not blank tabs either)
15:07 < Nightcinder> if i worked from home i'd use my expensive ones
15:10 < Nightcinder> ars whining about too many gestures on the home button now
15:10 < Nightcinder> can't please people
15:11 < Reverend> you guys over the pond seeing any net problems by any chance?
15:11 < FenJai> Pretty sure if they were they couldnt respond Reverend
15:12 < Reverend> oh yeah.
15:12  * Reverend facepalms
15:12 < vinrock> i got 5 bucks on level3
15:12 < Reverend> vinrock ++
15:12 < Bru-> morn
15:12 < Reverend> mornin
15:12 < Bru-> man
15:12 < Bru-> i been messing with linux for a couple weeks now
15:12 < Bru-> its a good time
15:12 < Bru-> can be frustrating, but in a positive, challenging way
15:13 < Bru-> feel like itll help my IT brain
15:13 < Bru-> especially CLI
15:13 < Bru-> makes you think about what youre doing
15:13 < vinrock> it satisfies the inner nerd
15:13 < Bru-> it does
15:14 < Bru-> especially fun since i need to create docker instances for my home automation
15:14 < Hatter> lkjasdfhjlkdsfjlsFJLKW
15:14 < Hatter> I think it may be one of those days
15:14 < SynMonger> I'm fine with linux as long as I don't have to use it as my desktop OS
15:14 < Bru-> SynMonger: i mean there are distros that are very user friendly
15:14 < vinrock> im bout to switch to it for desktop
15:14 < Bru-> linux mint chocolate is especially
15:15 < vinrock> gona have to run windows in kvm with gpu passthru
15:15 < SynMonger> I used linux as my daily driver for a couple of years, I finally got fed up with it
15:16 < vinrock> i just figure if i use it as my desktop os im gona be forced to git gud real fast
15:16 < Nightcinder> so we had some exchange issues the other day
15:16 < Nightcinder> now i'm getting a ton of The following organization rejected your message: d73082a.ess.barracudanetworks.com.
15:16 < Bru-> vinrock: true dat
15:16 < Nightcinder> i can't tell if it's our cuda or theirs
15:16 < Nightcinder> :|
15:16 < SynMonger> I'll take it on my servers any day, but I don't want the hassle on my desktop
15:16 < Bru-> Windows is coming a long way
15:16 < Bru-> server wise too now
15:16 < Bru-> becoming more CLI
15:16 < Nightcinder> they're whitelisted and allowed in our barracuda but shows as rejected
15:17 < Bru-> with a browser front-end for GUI
15:17 < Nightcinder> instead of delivered
15:17 < vinrock> well what do the headers show
15:17 < Bru-> i need to really get my powershell-fu on
15:17 < Bru-> im WAAAAY behind
15:17 < vinrock> meh im not even gona waste a minute of my time learning ps
15:17 < Nightcinder> the diagnostic info is generated by our barracuda
15:17 < Nightcinder> but says the cloud blocked it
15:17 < Nightcinder> we don't use the cloud
15:18 < Nightcinder> Remote Server returned '<d73082a.ess.barracudanetworks.com #5.0.0 smtp; 550 permanent failure for one or more recipients
15:18 < Bru-> vinrock: im in a windows heavy environment
15:18 < Bru-> and region
15:18 < vinrock> ah
15:18 < Bru-> and i cant move geographically :(
15:18 < vinrock> im just using windows for domain controllers and workstations
15:19 < vinrock> everything else runs on linux
15:22 < Bru-> vinrock: you ldap them workstations in?
15:22 < vinrock> wat no ad
15:23 < vinrock> win7 workstations, server 2012 r2 dc's
15:23 < vinrock> when i say everything else i mean like, appliances n shit
15:29 < ebol4> good freaken morning people
15:29 < Bru-> oh
15:29 < ebol4> yeah that's right
15:29 < Bru-> vinrock: sorry i didnt process what you wrote correctly lol
15:29 < vinrock> hah np
15:29 < Bru-> morn ebol4
15:30 < Bru-> hmm
15:30 < Bru-> hassio installs within docker perfectly on xubuntu
15:30 < Bru-> but not mint
15:30 < Bru-> wtf m8
15:30 < ebol4> why do they have to keep making up new software
15:30 < ebol4> what the heck is hassio
15:30 < Bru-> home assistant
15:30 < ebol4> like in westworld
15:31 < ebol4> Ottomite my friend welcome to #reddit-sysadmin
15:32 < ebol4> oh ho ho bmurt my good man
15:32 < Hatter> ebol4: what are you the doorman
15:32 < Nightcinder> how the fuck
15:32 < Nightcinder> do i send encrypted email via barracuda
15:33 < Nightcinder> i tested encryption and it works but what's the trigger?
15:33 < corn266> Step 1: Download kleopatra
15:33 < asimon> Bru-: That's why I switched back to windows. Nothing seemed to work without a lot of workarounds in linux
15:33 < Nightcinder> i don't see anything to set the encryption
15:33 < GreyKite> asimon: really? what distro?
15:33 < corn266> Step 2: Use PGP
15:33 < asimon> GreyKite: I was on mint
15:33 < ebol4> Hatter: please step away from the entrance sir, there is a line of people waiting to come in
15:34 < asimon> Maybe because I was trying to babystep it and use mint as windows essentially
15:34 < Kayofeld> Hello There
15:34 < GreyKite> asimon: hmmmmm yeah, trying to make linux into windows requires workarounds
15:34 < corn266> Step 3: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8jh0m5/efail_vulnerability_undermines_pgp_smime_email/
15:34 < asimon> But my yubikey wouldn't play nice, keepass was some shit, none of my games on steam worked
15:34 < ebol4> does steam work on 64-bit ubuntu yet without installing some 32-bit libraries
15:34 < asimon> It was too much
15:35 < GreyKite> asimon: you had issues with steam? weird
15:35 < ihre> vt-d ftw :3
15:35 < Kayofeld> GreyKite: "make linux into windows", don't understand this
15:35 < ihre> just pass your gpu to a win vm ;p
15:35 < GreyKite> Kayofeld: it usually doesn't go well
15:35 < asimon> Lol I tried that but of course I couldn't figure that out either
15:35 < asimon> it was so much easier to just reinstall windows and give up on it
15:36 < Kayofeld> GreyKite: using linux inside of windows, ok, but remaking windows as linux ...
15:36 < Kayofeld> Or use mint cinnamon
15:36 < Nightcinder> remake linux as windows
15:36 < Kayofeld> yeah, being french it is normal that my english sucks
15:36 < vinrock> oh snap i just found a palm treo
15:37 < ebol4> no real reason to install linux as main OS at this point imo, with the linux subsystem in windows now
15:37 < ebol4> unless you just like FOSS
15:37 < vinrock> this thing might be worth a brazillion hipsterbux by now
15:37 < corn266> Kayofeld: say "I would like to buy a hamburger"
15:37 < ebol4> has someone shot steve martin yet
15:37 < asimon> ./report ebol4 --fbi
15:37 < Kayofeld> corn266: aye woulde layke to by a hamburjer ?
15:38 < corn266> They tried in die hard 33 1/2 but it was just too difficult
15:38 < Kayofeld> ebol4: agreed
15:38 < ebol4> you also want to shoot steve martin
15:38 < Kayofeld> but in some cases...
15:38 < SynMonger> i'll gladly pay you tuesday for a hipsterburger today
15:40 < ebol4> but today tuesday
15:41 < ekaj> `bofh
15:42 < Nightcinder> .bofh
15:42 < corn266> ekaj layer-eight died
15:42 < Nightcinder> ur a layer eight
15:42  * corn266 is ded
15:50 < ravioli> happy monday
15:50 < ebol4> died a little inside and then i remembered it's tuesdee
15:50 < ebol4> which is marginally closer to friday
15:51 < ravioli> you're welcome
15:51 < ravioli> gotta put tuesday in perspective
15:51 < ravioli> it's not monday
15:52 < ebol4> maybe tuesday is worse because it's still extremely far from the weekend but you have no excuses because it's not monday
15:53 < ebol4> you could be having a bad tuesday and people will be like "it's not even monday you little binch baby"
15:53 < ebol4> "you want to see a really hard day? go back in time 24 hours you stupid moron. idiot"
15:53 < corn266> "binch baby" what
15:54 < hxcsp> binch baby
15:54 < ebol4> baby back binch
15:56 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSowZcvoqr4
15:56 < ebol4> i cannot click on links unless layer-eight tells me what it is
15:56 <@Code_Man65> Tough, layer-eight is dead
15:56 < ihre> tis time to crack the whip
15:56 < ebol4> i've been on this doggone earth too goddone long
15:56 < ebol4> DUDE, goddong
15:57 < ebol4> the electric whip
15:57 < ebol4> welcome to infinity whip's house of whipping
15:57 < Hatter> you can always trust my links
15:57 <@Code_Man65> As Devo said, when a problem comes along, you must whip it.
15:58 < ebol4> devo's a bunch of wild dudes. just whip it. lol
15:58 < Hatter> Code_Man65: I think it was in bad taste to have that song on the 12 years a slave soundtrack
15:59 < ebol4> is that song about inhaling compressed gas from the whipped cream cans
15:59 < Reverend> comcast is definitely having a problem or two
15:59 < Hatter> Reverend: url
16:00 < ebol4> cousin url
16:00 < Reverend> Hatter - no url. Just seeing out BGP flappage and twitter lighting up.
16:00 < Hatter> it looked like I might be having trouble for a bit
16:00 < Hatter> seems ok now
16:00 < Reverend> http://downdetector.com/status/comcast-xfinity
16:00 < Reverend> maybs :P
16:01 < asimon> What's the consensus on whether its safe to enter passwords into https://haveibeenpwned.com/
16:02 < asimon> I don't trust it
16:02 < Reverend> you only need to put your email in
16:02 < insecurity> i trust Troy Hunt.
16:02 < Reverend> it will tell you if the password was compromised too
16:02 < insecurity> smart dude.
16:02 <@Code_Man65> It is a pretty well known site
16:02 < insecurity> and yeah if you put your password into an email field, you should have trust issues generally.
16:03 < asimon> I was referring more to this page: https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords
16:03 < Reverend> asimon - just pop your email / username in, and it'll tell ya if the password was in the leak at the same time.
16:03 < Reverend> chances are, if you're using a particular password, it will have bee compromised. Let me try with one of my sketch passwords
16:03 < asimon> I understand that, yeah
16:03 < ebol4> you should be using unique 256-character passwords on every website
16:03 < insecurity> dude it's a repository of previously-exposed passwords.
16:03 < JollyRgrs> I DLed that dump a little while back of "all the leaks combined" that were known... with plaintext email/password and did a grep for my family's emails
16:04 < JollyRgrs> pretty sure that's all downdetector is doing as well
16:04 < JollyRgrs> so you can search by email or by PW
16:04 < JollyRgrs> see how many people use Hunter2, etc./
16:04 < insecurity> asimon: you can send hashes to the API if you don't want to enter in plain text.
16:04 < Reverend> JollyRgrs downdetector?
16:04 < ravioli> asimon: i trust that site
16:04 < JollyRgrs> Reverend: no, haveibeenpwnd or wahtever
16:04 < SynMonger> asimon: haveibeenpwned is legit
16:04 < Reverend> haha
16:04 < ravioli> i actually have it set up to email me whenever anyone on my @domain.com shows up on a list
16:04 < insecurity> we have a lot of dumps on hand and regularly dig up stuff like linkedin passwords for clients
16:04 < Reverend> ravioli ++
16:04 < ravioli> works like a charm
16:05 < insecurity> nice ravioli
16:05 < JollyRgrs> insecurity: you check for if someone coming in for an interview is on the list, right?
16:05 < insecurity> hahahaha
16:05 < insecurity> maybe
16:05 < ravioli> https://haveibeenpwned.com/DomainSearch
16:05 < ravioli> ^^^^^
16:05 < JollyRgrs> "we see you've been hacked... and your hacked PW is still current... kthxbai"
16:05 < insecurity> but mostly just use it to get intel on a client before a pen test
16:06 < asimon> I was just curious if anyone else was skeptical of entering a password in there. I trust the site and the api but it definitely could raise some eyebrows if I directed my friends to check if they've been compromised
16:06 < asimon> "Hey put your email and password into this tool and see how bad your cyber hygiene is!"
16:06 < asimon> Even if it actually is safe
16:06 < insecurity> u b ok
16:06 < ravioli> yeah.
16:06 < ebol4> yeah.
16:07 < insecurity> yes.
16:07 < Hatter> a good haveibeenpwned domain report is a good way to scare/impress executive types
16:07 < ebol4> at my last job, i found out on haveibeenpwned that some of our execs were in the rachel madison leak
16:07 <+A-KO> ashley*
16:07 < ebol4> ashley yeah
16:07 < ebol4> that one
16:07 <+A-KO> lol
16:08 < ebol4> who's rachel madison
16:08 < ravioli> one of my techs shows up as being on that leak
16:09 < Casteil> bah
16:09  * spstarr IS PRODUCT COMPLETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:09 < spstarr> \o/
16:09 < Casteil> want to run some EMT conduit for another outlet on my deck.. the wire's just as expensive as the conduit+fittings needed
16:14 < TuxedoJack> Woot. Everyone's off on Memorial Day but me
16:14 < TuxedoJack> But in trade I get $400 extra
16:14 < darkscrypt> morning rsa!
16:16 < JFDkthx> good news everyone, you're rbeathing manually and you can feel your tongue against the roof of you mouth
16:16 < corn266> Good thing I was just itching the top of my mouth with my tongue
16:17 < JFDkthx> that tickles
16:17 < ebol4> what day is memorial day
16:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> ebol4: I found out avery large coworker in my office ordered "vagina tightening cream" because her account was pwnd from the website
16:17 < corn266> Any SELinux people in here want to explain why antivirus_exec_t doesn't have execute access on an antivirus_db_t file?
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> ebol4: that website only sold that one product.. why
16:18 < corn266> ebol4: monday after next
16:18 < ebol4> that's soooo faaaarrr awaaaayyyyy
16:18 < ebol4> McDonaldsWiFi: that's the downside of IT
16:18 < corn266> Don't worry, it'll be next monday before you know it, then only a week left
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
16:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> it's the same reason I disable the logging on my retropies
16:19 < ebol4> don't want anyone to know you were playing pacman
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> my roommate looks at weird shit
16:19 < ebol4> oh
16:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
16:19  * spstarr grins at 'ebol4' (ebola) :p
16:19 < spstarr> you are malware!
16:19 < spstarr> :D
16:20 < ebol4> i am a disease
16:20 < JFDkthx> corn266: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/selinux_users_and_administrators_guide/index
16:20 < JFDkthx> lite reading
16:20  * gavit is looking for a nice gui app for email hosting for postfix/dovecot or something similar
16:20 < ebol4> gavit: roundcube
16:20 < ebol4> is the standard i think
16:21 < spstarr> ebol4: just as bad :D
16:22 < Bru-> shiiiit
16:22 < Bru-> i didnt factor in USB pass through when i created the linux VM
16:22 < Bru-> NOOOO
16:22 < Bru-> in hyper-v
16:23 < ebol4> then perish
16:23 < TuxedoJack> In flames
16:27 < corn266> Will Silicon Valley get a Season 6 or was that it?
16:28 < syere> Well, i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. I'm trying to get graylog rolled out here. But every time I get nxlog with GELF_TCP on the windows servers, at some point nxlog is causing the machines to hit 100% CPU usage. My guess is it's a storage I/O problem, but I don't have the access to get proof on that. Anyone got any ideas?
16:29 < JFDkthx> syere: nmap
16:29 < JFDkthx> rather
16:29 < syere> network scanning?
16:30 < JFDkthx> are you generating tons of files from that device
16:30 < ebol4> yeah did you try pinging it
16:30 < syere> before "the crash" we only pushed about 5gb total a day into it
16:30 < corn266> JFDkthx: I've been reading https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/8-antivirus_selinux/ and correlating it with the SELinux git repo definitions and how clamAV works to determine the types and they all seem correct
16:31 < JFDkthx> corn266: try resetting the flag on the file?
16:33 < ebol4> so tired of working in an open office
16:33 < ebol4> my manager sits directly across from me and he's on the phone ALL DAY
16:33 < syere> I made it 1.5 days in a open office environment before I quit
16:33 < JFDkthx> fuck this guide "Open configuration file with your favorite text editor, in this example we will use nano."
16:33 < ebol4> the whole day is just a cacophony of voices
16:34 < JFDkthx> corn266: https://www.hostinger.com/tutorials/how-to-install-clamav-centos7 is what im looking at
16:34 < JFDkthx> is it pretty similar?
16:34 < SynMonger> I share an office with someone but he's gone most of the day and the room is split with a T-shaped 6ft wall so I don't have to see him when he's here
16:35 < corn266> JFDkthx: nah because SELinux has automatic configurations for clamAV
16:35 < JFDkthx> kk
16:35 < corn266> https://github.com/fedora-selinux/selinux-policy-contrib/blob/rawhide/antivirus.fc combined with https://askubuntu.com/questions/114000/how-to-update-clamav-definitions-database
16:36 < Hatter> can I give an office 365 user access to just a single app
16:36 < Hatter> I'm pretty new to this
16:36 <@Code_Man65> Hatter: Be more specific
16:36 < Hatter> OneNote
16:36 <@Code_Man65> As in just one of the office apps?
16:36 < Hatter> yes
16:36 <@Code_Man65> You can customize what is installed by the C2R installer IIRC
16:37 < Hatter> oh sure I know what that means of course
16:38 <@Code_Man65> Click2Run
16:38 < Hatter> I know!
16:38 < TuxedoJack> FUCK CLick2Run
16:39 <@Code_Man65> TuxedoJack:  Office 2019 only comes in a C2R
16:39 <@Code_Man65> No more MSI installer
16:39 < ebol4> my favorite was having to uninstall DVD office 2013 in order to install C2R office 2016
16:39 < TuxedoJack> Fuck it, and its devs, in every orifice with a spiked adamantium Bad Dragon toy covered in salt and lime juice
16:40 < ebol4> that's a santorum margerita
16:40 < asimon> Jesus TuxedoJck
16:40 < vinrock> microsoft won't let me buy any more copies of office 2016
16:40 < TuxedoJack> It's a fucking shitty piece of software and another way to foist fucking shit-ass UWP apps
16:41 < vinrock> cuz i just did it piece by piece instead of volume license
16:41 < Hatter> Code_Man65: but I can't allow single apps on the web versions?
16:41 <@Code_Man65> No hatter
16:41 < TuxedoJack> And I fucking hope Salesforce can't ever make a fucking UWP-compatible add-in for Outlook
16:41 < TuxedoJack> Just so MS shits itself when the legions of marketing fuckballs come down on them
16:41 <@Code_Man65> TuxedoJack:  Salesforce has native Outlook intergration now
16:41 < ebol4> why would you need to limit access to office apps
16:41 <@Code_Man65> You don't need an add-in
16:42 <@Code_Man65> Actually to be more accurate, it has Exchange level integration
16:42 < TuxedoJack> Code_Man65: that's fucking retarded, just like Salesforce. Put the onus on the user machine, don't fuck with core infrastructure
16:43 <@Code_Man65> I'm not arguing
16:46 < TuxedoJack> Also, why the fuck did HCA use anything requiring Silverlight for the remote provider portal
16:46 < AnimalFarmPig> internet died at my house. So annoying. Problem with the ONT or connection between ONT & rest of network. :(
16:46 < TuxedoJack> Just install fucking Citrix / RD Gateway
16:46 < TuxedoJack> Doctors are bad enough as is, don't make it fucking worse by requiring IE
16:46 < rhqq> fucking fuck. my modem issue turned out to be arouter issue.
16:47 < JFDkthx> pebram
16:47 < Anaphylaxis> damn arouters.
16:48 < felda> TuxedoJack they were going to remove the Dynamics CRM Outlook plugin and then people cried so now they are forced to keep it for the huge v9 overhaul lmao
16:48 < rhqq> so i tested on 2 different modems (mpci-e and usb) and every hour, like 5 minutes past i have a weird issue when existing connections work, icmp work, but new tcp sessions and udp does not
16:49 < felda> that reminds me
16:49 < felda> RIP my overly customized CRM
16:50 < Reverend> Anyone here got kubernetes to manage their EC2 scaling for them?
16:50 < TuxedoJack> felda: fuck 'em
16:50 < Reverend> i.e. if you've got k8s running on EC2, is tehre a way to get it to do the scaling for you?
16:50 < felda> TuxedoJack are you enjoying the 30% licensing price increase from the old version?
16:51 < TuxedoJack> felda: no, because I don't fucking run that software
16:51 < felda> Do your customers use Salesforce?
16:51 < TuxedoJack> I would rather jam my boss's dick in my KitchenAid stand mixer and turn it on "ruin your shit" than use it
16:51 < TuxedoJack> And they do, but THEY pay for it directly
16:51 < TuxedoJack> Not me
16:51 < felda> lol
16:52 < Nightcinder>  American Airlines bans emotional support amphibians, ferrets, goats and more
16:52 < TuxedoJack> And I'm serious, I'd rather ruin a perfectly good 1950s-era KitchenAid mixer than use Salesforce
16:52 < Nightcinder> rip my emotional support peacock
16:52 < darkscrypt> there needs to be an incense to burn that smells like new technology
16:52 < ebol4> noooooooo goats
16:52 < TuxedoJack> darkscrypt: just hook up an Etherkiller
16:52 < TuxedoJack> That'll do it for you, fire and all
16:52 < darkscrypt> lol
16:53 < darkscrypt> i haven't heard of an etherkiller in a long time
16:53 < darkscrypt> kicking it old school
16:53 < GreyKite> there are usbkillers now
16:53 < darkscrypt> i've seen them.
16:54 < darkscrypt> https://usbkill.com/
16:54 < felda> TuxedoJack do you also have the joy of QuickBooks AND Neat Receipt software?
16:54 < GreyKite> dah, another reason to tell people to not plug in random usb sticks
16:55 < asimon> I love this
16:55 < darkscrypt> no idea why the police would use a usbkiller
16:55 < darkscrypt> what's the usecase for that?
16:56 < ebol4> why stop at dogs and black people
16:56 < GreyKite> what the fuck
16:57 < darkscrypt> GreyKite: yeah I'm just ignoring that.
16:57 < ebol4> o7 comrade
16:57 < AnimalFarmPig> not content with just killing your puppers, the cops now also kill your homelab
16:59 < asimon> Why can't I stop wwatching this usbkiller video
16:59 < dragonfleas> come into work this morning, one of our DC's is in a boot loop
16:59 < dragonfleas> fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
16:59 < ebol4> you need help asimon
16:59 < Sousapro> lol I asked everyone about roaming profile alternatives a couple of times
16:59 < Sousapro> no one mentioned UE-V
16:59 < Sousapro> lmao
16:59 < darkscrypt> what is ue-v Sousapro
17:00 < ebol4> ultra enterprise vaseline
17:00 < Sousapro> darkscrypt: allows you to move settings between Windows PCs but without the nightmares of roaming profile
17:00 < Sousapro> User Experience Virtualization
17:00 < ebol4> makes the process smooth AF
17:00 < Sousapro> combine with folder redirection for smooth roaming
17:01 < Sousapro> also, UE-V is like a nothing to get working
17:01 < Sousapro> if you can use GPO and create SMB shares, you're all set
17:01 < Sousapro> like 10 minutes for PoC
17:01 < asimon> It destroyed his car
17:01 < asimon> wtffff
17:01 < asimon> I want one
17:02 < darkscrypt> lol.
17:02  * darkscrypt puts asimon in the database.
17:02 < darkscrypt> ez pz
17:03 < br14> sooo.  I'm not having the RDP issues after applying the May update. wtf did I do wrong?
17:04 < Hatter> you sound disappointed
17:04 < ebol4> did you apply it to a server or to a client
17:04 < br14> client
17:04 < TuxedoJack> felda: are you kidding? Of course!
17:04 < ebol4> is the server up-to-date as well
17:04 < br14> I can connect to unpatched win 10 and server 2012.
17:04 < darkscrypt> br14: what rdp issues are you having? we have been having that too.
17:05 < darkscrypt> br14: is this where rdp randomly disconnects and you get channel errors?
17:05 < br14> I'm *not*, which oddly is the problem.
17:05 < darkscrypt> br14: that is the problem though, right?
17:05 < darkscrypt> br14: i'm just asking because thats been on my list of things to investigate
17:05 < darkscrypt> only new server 2016 boxes are doing it. I have about 20
17:05 < br14> darkscrypt: have you seen the notes on the CredSSP in the last months updates?
17:06 < br14> (i might have misspelled credssp)
17:06 < darkscrypt> you have the spelling right
17:06 < darkscrypt> you mean the CVE
17:06 < darkscrypt> I haven't read the notes, but i've known of the vuln
17:06 < ebol4> br14: on servers, the GPO at: Computer Configuration > Policies > Administrative Templates > System > Credentials Delegation > Encryption Oracle Remediation
17:06 < ebol4> determines whether or not unpatched servers/clients can communicated
17:07 < br14> darkscrypt: May's patch should resolve the issue with the effect of crippling RDP between patched and unpatched.
17:07 < darkscrypt> I think our issue started in august/september of 2017. may not be the same thing.
17:08 < br14> ebol4: this should create/modify a registry key correct? It's not there.
17:09 < ebol4> the GPO isn't there?
17:10 < dragonfleas> PDQ deploy is free right?
17:12 < JollyRgrs> free*
17:13 < JollyRgrs> *some features are not available in free version
17:13 < spstarr> FREE!!!!!!1
17:13 < darkscrypt> free as in free suffering.
17:13 < spstarr> wait.... what lootcrate is this?
17:13 < darkscrypt> new lootcrate contains RDS Cals for server 2003
17:13 < spstarr> is that a common, rare, epic or legendary crate?
17:13 < spstarr> or uncommon
17:14 < darkscrypt> epic
17:14 < spstarr> so purple :)
17:14 < technonerd> What is the float?
17:14 < spstarr> legendary is gold
17:16 < Anaphylaxis> float is my old name
17:16 <+A-KO> damnit
17:17 <+A-KO> I did something stupid
17:17 < GreyKite> no, you? never
17:17 < JollyRgrs> A-KO: well, you ahve to be more specific, we understand you've done stupid often
17:17 <+A-KO> stayed over this chick's place last night
17:17 < ihre> i <3 pbcopy/pbpaste :p
17:18 < corn266> Boom. AIDS
17:18 <+A-KO> now I'm tired as fuck
17:18 <+A-KO> and don't want to go into work today
17:18 < GreyKite> ...how is that any different than any other day?
17:18 < GreyKite> that's what caffeine is for
17:18 < corn266> Did you wash the stink off your dirk or are you gonna waft it at your coworkers
17:19 < TuxedoJack> Client moves to new MSP. New MSP runs the update that blanks static IPs on organization's main fileserver. New MSP e-mails us for help
17:19 <+A-KO> I'm about to jump in the shower right now :P
17:19 < TuxedoJack> Fukken lol
17:19 <+A-KO> lol TuxedoJack
17:20 <+A-KO> god I need to rethink thinking with my little head than my big one
17:20 < ebol4> drink a couple 5 hour energys and get to work
17:20 < corn266> A-KO: back to work
17:21 < ebol4> get to scrubbin
17:21 < corn266> Why was the cabbage patch dance not called scrubbin'
17:21 < JollyRgrs> corn266: because i said so!
17:22 < AnimalFarmPig> take a couple bumps of coke on your way in. You'll feel a lot better.
17:22 < corn266> Gotta pump those numbers up AnimalFarmPig
17:23 < JollyRgrs> TuxedoJack: did you laugh with or without mute engaged on teh phone?
17:23 < JollyRgrs> and if unmuted, was it loud enough so everyone else at the other MSP's office could hear it?
17:33 < TuxedoJack> It came in in a ticket
17:38 < mal_will> So management-anyone in here a manager?
17:39 < giant_it_burrit> go on
17:40 < ebol4> i have a manager
17:40 < JFDkthx> i was a manager
17:40 < giant_it_burrit> what mal_will
17:41 < mal_will> I just want to know if anyone went from technical to managing in here
17:41 < giant_it_burrit> o
17:41 < mal_will> bonus points for reverting back, in horror or shame
17:41  * giant_it_burrit waves
17:41 < mal_will> You currently manage?
17:41 < giant_it_burrit> i tryy to manage
17:41 < giant_it_burrit> but managing a herd of cats would be easier
17:41 < mal_will> lol, help desk, or?
17:42 < giant_it_burrit> users and security
17:44 < mal_will> Oh dang
17:44 < mal_will> I'm going to look into help desk and security management today.
17:44 < mal_will> Do you have dedicated security personnel?
17:44 <+A-KO> our security folks tried to move the goal post on a project yesterday
17:44 <+A-KO> I was like noooooooooooooooooooope
17:46 < ravioli> anyone in here really really knowledgable about electronic components like potentiometers?
17:46 < ebol4> i know about potentiometers, but only potentiometers
17:47 < mal_will> You're hired!
17:47 < ebol4> heck yeah
17:48 < ravioli> i want a spring-loaded push potentiometer. where the resistance increases when you push in on it, like a button. and it returns to being extended (with less resistance) when you release it.
17:48 < ravioli> the resistance should increase linearly (not boolean on/off)
17:49 < AnimalFarmPig> Could I include something like "As a user of this software, you acknowledge that Whataburger is superior in every way to In-n-Out Burger" in a EULA/TOS and then terminate users for violation of EULA/TOS if they ever disagree?
17:49 < ebol4> ravioli: it appears that these exist and are called "self return" or "spring return" potentiometers
17:50 < ravioli> ebol4: :* <3
17:50 < TuxedoJack> AnimalFarmPig: you better be fucking serious. Whataburger kicks In-N-Out's ass in so many goddamn ways
17:50 < ebol4> oh that's cool they're used for like motor scooter throttles
17:51 < AnimalFarmPig> TuxedoJack: 100% serious
17:51 < ebol4> you gonna build your own rascal ravioli
17:51 < felda>  / ! \  NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \  NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \  NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \  NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \  NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \  NEW PFSENSE UPDATE / ! \
17:51 < felda> get it while it's hot
17:51 < AnimalFarmPig> TuxedoJack: Whataburger is pretty good. In-N-Out is complete shit.
17:51 < felda> it'll burn your mouth :D
17:51 < ebol4> AnimalFarmPig: what in the bajangus are you talking about
17:51 < TuxedoJack> AnimalFarmPig: honey barbecue chicken strip sandwich
17:51 < felda> Code_Man65 is just jealous he has nothing in life that excites him
17:52 <@Code_Man65> I have plenty in life that excites me
17:52 < TuxedoJack> Diabeetus, yes, but fucking GOOD diabeetus
17:52 < ThatOneRoadie> >In-N-Out is complete shit.
17:52 < Reverend> that reminds me, I need to prep the wings for the BBQ this weekend
17:52 < ThatOneRoadie> Ban this man
17:52 < AnimalFarmPig> ebol4: terminating service contracts / user accounts of people who like In-N-Out Burger
17:52 < int0x1C8> oh ffs I just downloaded the 2.4.3 images
17:52 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: is kicking felda part of it?
17:52 < Reverend> giant_it_burrit always has been bruv
17:52 < Reverend> plenty of felda kickage in here :)
17:52 < mrghostman> hrmm...the arby's gyro aint terrible.  dont @ me
17:52 < ebol4> i had a dream last night where i was in tucson, arizona and i had a cheeseburger that was presumably from in n out
17:53 < felda> Code_Man65 is the incel of this channel "Fuckin' Stacey firewalls won't install for me REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> sure, I'll grant you that In-N-Out isn't the best burger in the world
17:53 < ThatOneRoadie> but it's a damn sight better than most
17:53 < ebol4> americans be eating cheesed burger
17:54 < ThatOneRoadie> I'd argue that a #1 combo animal style (Double double and fries and a drink) is the best combo under $7
17:54 < AnimalFarmPig> arguing over the quality of fast food burgers is like arguing over the muzzle energy of pistol cartridges-- they're all pretty fucking poor in comparison to non-mass produced burgers / rifle cartridges.
17:54 < AnimalFarmPig> With that said, In-N-Out is pretty fucking below average even for a fast food burger
17:55 < ebol4> americans be eating cheesed bullets
17:55 < int0x1C8> mmm GIMME DAT FO FIVE
17:56 < AnimalFarmPig> but, srs, question about licensing terms-- would something like that hold up in court if I got sued?
17:56 < JFDkthx> afternoon nap time
17:56 < ThatOneRoadie> No
17:56 < JFDkthx> soooo sleeepy
17:56 < Nightcinder> GreyKite: i might sell my closed back hedfon
17:56 < ThatOneRoadie> you can't terminate based on favorite burger joints if it's not in your T&C's
17:56 < int0x1C8> AnimalFarmPig you forget glorious 10mm
17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> int0x1C8: 1cm
17:57 < ThatOneRoadie> you could update your T&C's and hope nobody reads the updates
17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> ThatOneRoadie: Im saying I would put it in the EULA/TOS
17:57 < ThatOneRoadie> int0x1C8: Ah, best millimeter!
17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> "Could I include something like "As a user of this software, you acknowledge that Whataburger is superior in every way to In-n-Out Burger" in a EULA/TOS and then terminate users for violation of EULA/TOS if they ever disagree?"
17:57 < JFDkthx> yeah
17:57 < JFDkthx> seems doable
17:57 < ThatOneRoadie> Well you could but that wouldn't hold up
17:57 < ebol4> 10mm is for vault 101 residents
17:58 < ThatOneRoadie> EULA's don't like absolutes
17:58 < giant_it_burrit> ebol4: i like my 10mm
17:58 < giant_it_burrit> it jsut runs away
17:58 < giant_it_burrit> into my engine bay
17:58 < AnimalFarmPig> it's kind of like json's license not allowing it to be used for evil
17:58 < giant_it_burrit> COME BACK 10MM SOCKET
17:58 < AnimalFarmPig> unless it's IBM, because they got a special exception from the author
17:58 < ThatOneRoadie> You could do "As a user of this software, you acknowledge that In-N-Out burger can not be the best burger."
17:58 < vinrock> 10mm socket is the most elusive of sockets
17:58 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
17:59 < AnimalFarmPig> hmm.... interesting. I suppose it pays to have a lawyer write your EULA.
17:59 < mrghostman> one must have multiple 10mm.  deep well, 12 point, etc
17:59 < onenerdyguy> So, anyone still use Roaming Profiles here?
17:59 < vinrock> yup
18:00 < vinrock> wait
18:00 < vinrock> no
18:00 < onenerdyguy> i'm attempting to kill them, but not finding a decent replacement
18:01 < vinrock> i dont have users that really move around but if they do i just have em sync their files to the backup location
18:01 < onenerdyguy> for us, this is users who basically 'hotdesk' between 8 computers
18:01 < onenerdyguy> folder redirection works to a point, but i need appdata and crap to sync too
18:01 < vinrock> in that instance i think roaming would be the way to go
18:02 < mal_will> Self pick ticketing portals and massive phone option trees are the death of helpdesk productivity
18:03 < GreyKite> Nightcinder: you don't like them?
18:03 < Nightcinder> i do
18:03 < Nightcinder> but money
18:03 < JFDkthx> onenerdyguy: yes
18:04 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, does it work?
18:04 < JFDkthx> yeah works p fucking great
18:04 < onenerdyguy> vinrock, i'd think so, if it didn't corrupt profiles every 3 days
18:04 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, win7 or 10 or what
18:04 < B_RAD1> block the internet
18:04 < JFDkthx> both
18:04 < B_RAD1> ban it all
18:04 < dragonfleas> why the fuck does secret server have so many pre-requisites
18:04 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, you also doing any folder redirection, or just pure roaming?
18:04 < dragonfleas> this software better be good
18:05 < B_RAD1> onenerdyguy, how's life?
18:05 < JFDkthx> most of our org is built around users having to switch buildings work locations. roaming profiles are fantastic here. pure roaming.
18:06 < onenerdyguy> B_RAD1, has it's ups and downs, but I've got 1 day left this week
18:06 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, hmm, I think that's our issue. We have both redirects and roams, and I think they're screwing each other over
18:06 < B_RAD1> onenerdyguy, like, at current jerb
18:06 < B_RAD1> ?
18:06 < B_RAD1> quitting?
18:08 < onenerdyguy> B_RAD1, ha no, going to rock on the range! vacation
18:10 < jaelae> hmm
18:10 < jaelae> i have to select a conference to go to
18:10 < jaelae> which shall it be this year
18:10 < onenerdyguy> jaelae, ignite?
18:10 < SynMonger> the one in a place you want to visit
18:10 < znpy> hello there :)
18:10 < jaelae> im thinking ignite in sept
18:10 < jaelae> or the aws one in november i believe
18:11 < jaelae> i did vmworld the past few years but this year i am on vacation that week so not going
18:11 < onenerdyguy> personally I'd do Ignite, as you'll get Azure there too
18:12 < jaelae> yea we are leaning more towards moving our app in some form to aws than azure but still
18:12 < onenerdyguy> ah
18:12 < jaelae> AWS conference is a little nutty though
18:12 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, when you say pure roaming, are you literally just pointing the profile variable in AD?
18:12 < AnimalFarmPig> jaelae: Percona Live Europe?
18:12 < jaelae> they do not have it in one place in vegas its in a plethora of hotels
18:12 < onenerdyguy> JFDkthx, or you got some GPo for it too
18:12 < jaelae> AnimalFarmPig:  not sure what that is but i would love europe if that was possible (which it isnt) :)
18:13 < jaelae> purestorage event end of this month but i cannot make it to that too
18:13 < jaelae> thats a nice one though in san francisco
18:13 < AnimalFarmPig> jaelae: Percona Live is a database conference. They do one in California in the spring every year and one in Europe in the autumn. This year it's in lovely... errr..... Frankfurt :/
18:13 < JFDkthx> unfortunately i only get to experience it from the user side. i'm not sure how they have it set up.
18:13 < jaelae> ah that sounds interesting
18:14 < jaelae> covers many different DBs?
18:14 < AnimalFarmPig> https://www.percona.com/blog/2018/04/05/percona-live-europe-2018-save-the-date/
18:14 < jaelae> we are a mix of Mongo and SQL here
18:14 < JFDkthx> im primarily a nix admin and we're silod away from the corp.
18:14 < AnimalFarmPig> mostly around MySQL and Mongo
18:14 < AnimalFarmPig> but I think they also talk about Postgres and others. I've been wanting to go for a few years and it never works out
18:18 < ebol4> too many nerds in one room
18:18 < GreyKite> ebol4: at least these are nerds with jobs so the smell isn't AS bad
18:18 < scwizard> need to get a haircut today
18:19 < scwizard> also tbh i choose to wear deodorant or not based on the event
18:19 < ravioli> why not always wear it
18:19 < scwizard> so i would wear it to like a database conference, but not to the anime convention or whatever lol
18:20 < scwizard> ravioli: because it's uncomfortable, although recently i did find a better kind that's not so bad
18:20 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: I wonder which conference you have a better chance of getting laid at? anime vs database?
18:20 < GreyKite> scwizard: if you find deoderant uncomfortable, try Tom's
18:20 < scwizard> been using this: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/813j-mlfz4L._SY550_.jpg
18:20 < hxcsp> whats uncomfortable about deoderant
18:20 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: depends on if you set standards or not
18:21 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: need to protect my virginity lel
18:21 < AnimalFarmPig> Tom's has propylene glycol in it. Some people (me) are allergic to it. I use a brand called Jason.
18:21 < gavit> why does it seem like all backup tools only support vmware and hyperv :(
18:21 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: fair enough
18:21 < scwizard> gavit: as opposed to?
18:21 < scwizard> gavit: what other virt software are you using in prod?
18:21 < giant_it_burrit> gavit: what you looking for?
18:21 < GreyKite> scwizard: kvm, xen
18:21 < hxcsp> because if you arent using vmware or hyperv you are probably doing it wrong gavit. and if you are using KVM then you are smart enough to make your own backup solution
18:21 < scwizard> GreyKite: you wouldn't use a gui backup tool for kvm or xen
18:21 < giant_it_burrit> you wouldnt download a car
18:22 < GreyKite> scwizard: no, no I wouldn't
18:22 < GreyKite> scwizard: just answering the question
18:22 < AnimalFarmPig> GreyKite: this is the good stuff, imo-- https://www.amazon.com/Jason-Fragrance-Free-Deodorant-Stick/dp/B000OQG0EK/
18:22 < scwizard> gavit: don't tell me you're using virtualbox or something silly
18:23 < GreyKite> AnimalFarmPig: ah, I've seen that brand, I'll give it a try
18:23 < ebol4> why all these deodorants have first names
18:23 < GreyKite> well, tom's makes more than deoderant
18:23 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
18:23 < AnimalFarmPig> I like their fennel flavored toothpaste
18:23 < scwizard> need to work
18:23 < gnupluslinux> i've been reading your name wrong this entire time, kept reading it as AnimalPigFarm
18:25 < AnimalFarmPig> some people prefer natural/organic personal hygiene products either for allergy/sensitivity reasons or because they're hippies. Tom's of Maine is probably the biggest name in that market.
18:25 < JFDkthx> hes the pig from animal farm gnupluslinux
18:25 < gnupluslinux> clearly the most equalest of all animals
18:25 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ I really need to re-watch that cartoon
18:26 < Anaphylaxis> AnalPigFarm
18:29 < gavit> giant_it_burrit: I'm looking for incremental backup for a hypervisor like proxmox, solusvm etc. all of them do full backups
18:30 < gavit> hxcsp: currently am thinking of using zfs and making snapshots and sync those to use as a backup
18:30 < gnupluslinux> could probably homebrew it with zfs
18:30 < gnupluslinux> can do a zfs send --diff or whatever the command is
18:30 < gavit> gnupluslinux: that's what I was thinking of
18:31 < Heresiarch> don't need zfs for that. In theory, kvm can snapshot VMs regardless of the fs (and you really wouldn't want the fs to be the snapshot point anyway).
18:31 < giant_it_burrit> ^
18:31 < gnupluslinux> true, way it was worded though i thought he wanted to snapshot the entire hypervisor
18:31 < gavit> giant_it_burrit: Heresiarch can you elaborate?
18:32 < gavit> gnupluslinux: nah. just the vms. but zfs with zfs send of the incremental snapshot seemed like a crash consistent backup
18:32 < Heresiarch> gavit: no matter how intelligent a filesystem is, it doesn't have any awareness of the state of a VM. The hypervisor will, and can generate snapshots that are consistent relative to the VM.
18:33 < gnupluslinux> ^^
18:33 < gnupluslinux> if its just vms, check out kvm snapshots. you can copy the fs all you want but if the "hardware" changes, you can still get fuck ups
18:34 < Heresiarch> gavit: a ZFS snapshot will be consistent for the *filesystem*, but it's anyone's guess whether the VMs themselves will be in consistent state at time of filesystem snap.
18:35 < insecurity> hey
18:35 < gavit> Heresiarch: so how would you back it up? I was guessing of doing stuff like let the mysql servers do a daily db dump to disk so I could always recover from that, but that requires me to know what is running on the vm
18:36 < Heresiarch> gavit: database backups are a whole different animal, even in a virtualized environment. The easiest way for mysql is to script an automated dump (or use something like percona xtrabackup).
18:37 < gavit> gnupluslinux: I see some commands about virsh to make the snapshot. let's say I read through it and made the snapshot. How do I go about making an incremental backup out of that? I keep the last snapshot on the host and do a diff oldsnapshot newsnapshot > tar zcvf of some kind?
18:37 < Heresiarch> gavit: VM snapshots on a database instance have the same problem as a zfs snap on normal instances. The VM/instance OS doesn't have any concept of when the database is in consistent state or not.
18:38 < gavit> Heresiarch: I agree, that's why I would make daily dumps on disk (the dump should be consistent), and if daily is not sufficient, do half daily dumps or something
18:39 < ebol4> gavit: are you using LVM?
18:40 < gavit> ebol4: I haven't even decided which hypervisor to use yet. I was thinking of proxmox, solusvm etc, but as I said, all the backups seem to be full backups
18:40 < gavit> ebol4: I'm guessing the LVM question would lead to a solution similar to the zfs send
18:40 < ebol4> ah okay. I used to use Xen and libvirt/kvm, and i had set up a combination of ansible and BackupPC
18:41 < ebol4> ansible to run the mysqldump command, and then backuppc to backup the sql dump and various other files, like /etc
18:41 < ebol4> although i think you can have backuppc run the mysqldump command before doing a backup
18:41 < ebol4> but backuppc does full and incremental backups, and you can schedule them, and configure how many backups it retains
18:42 < ebol4> plus it's FOSS
18:42 < Heresiarch> gavit: it would. Part of the problem here is terminology - in a snapshot-based backup system, there is no full/incremental. Even veeam basically snaps VMWare instances - it doesn't snap deltas from the last "full".
18:42 < ebol4> yeah, i wouldn't snapshot database vm's
18:43 < ebol4> unless the snapshot also snapshots RAM
18:43 < gavit> ebol4: a restore would thus require a VM to be build with the same packages etc?
18:44 < insecurity> Привет
18:45 < ebol4> gavit: you could have it backup EVERYTHING if you have the space for it, but just keep in mind that that generally is not the way you're supposed to backup databases
18:45 < gavit> Heresiarch: the zfs send, sends a copy of the snapshot to another location. as far as I know a normal snapshot is still dependant on the live data. so if the zfs raid failed for some reason and you did not copy the snapshots and increments to somewhere else, you lose the data
18:46 < MadCamel> can also just put the databases in a consistent state before snapshotting. ex: "flush tables with read lock;" then hold onto the lock until the snapshot's complete. If snapshots are fast even a heavily loaded db won't really notice the blip.
18:46 < ebol4> yeah, doing a read lock would also solve that, if that's an option for you
18:46 < gavit> ebol4: I want a full backup of the vm, and incrementals during a week or something. the database dump can be done in addition to ensure that I have a consistent database when restoring
18:47 < Heresiarch> gavit: true. The other alternatives are to either fully document these systems in config mgmt (excepting databases), and/or to use a more traditional backup/restore program which does allow for fulls/incrementals.
18:47 < ebol4> i'd probably just use lvm or zfs snapshots in addition to rsync'ing a database dump
18:47 < corn266> Has anyone heard of ubuntu not reaching grub-loader because 2 gfx cards (1070Ti and Quadro) and CUDA drivers are installed?
18:47 < gavit> Heresiarch: is there a 'traditional backup/restore program which allows for fulls/incremenatls' for kvm vms?
18:47 < ebol4> gavit: backuppc
18:48 < gavit> ebol4: let me read up on backuppc.
18:48 < ebol4> connects over rsync/ssh and backs up/restores files that way
18:48 < ebol4> can also connect over smb
18:48 < gavit> ebol4: connects to the host or the vm?
18:48 < ebol4> the vm
18:48 < ebol4> on the host, the only option is snapshots
18:48 < jbroome> yeah i've never thought to use backuppc for backing up the image
18:49 < ebol4> unless you're going to use backuppc to copy the block device or something
18:49 < ebol4> the lvm/zfs block device
18:49 < gavit> that would mean I have to remember how much cpu, mem, disks etc I had, and how it was configured. also nic mac addresses if applicable (some licenses are annoying)
18:49 < Church-> Man this is a juicy argument I'm watching.
18:49 < Church-> Heya MadCamel
18:49 < Heresiarch> gavit: http://rohitchauhanit.blogspot.com/2015/11/kvm-snapshot-and-clone.html
18:49 < ebol4> gavit: you would back up the vm configs as well
18:49 < gnupluslinux> gavit, you'd have to do that with zfs send anyway
18:50 < gnupluslinux> zfs doesnt care what the vm is, it only cares what's in the dataset
18:50 < MadCamel> heya Church-, how goes
18:51 < Church-> MadCamel: Eh brushing up on a bunch of tech, watching an argument over on the mozilla irc server I started on crypto coins. lol
18:52 < ebol4> gavit: you pretty much just have to decide between doing filesystem level backups on the VMs, or block-device/image backups/snapshots on the host, or both
18:52 < gavit> gnupluslinux: true, but I was hoping there was a solution like veaam where it connects to the hypervisor, figures out what vms exist (its not that hard), and make backups as it does for vmware and hyperv.
18:53 < gnupluslinux> the vms exist as just a bunch of xml configs, could copy those over too
18:54 < gnupluslinux> speaking of, what do you guys use for remote automatic failover?
18:55 < MadCamel> for my kvm setup I have the backing-store setup atop a btrfs filesystem. my backup scripts just ensure every VM is in a sane state, snapshot the filesystem, and ship the snapshot offsite. I also backup the kvm host machines themselves, I just use rdiff-backup for that.
18:55 < MadCamel> snapshot the *backing-store filesystem, not the guest filesystem.
18:56 < MadCamel> there's probably better solutions but that's what works for me :)
18:57 < ebol4> gnupluslinux: for really important stuff like DNS that needs to be pretty much instant, i use keepalived to have both machines share an IP address, but HAProxy would probably work fine too
18:57 < ebol4> but then you have to have two HAproxy installs if you want to be truly HA
18:57 < ebol4> so keepalived is simpler
18:58 < onenerdyguy> anyone using RHEV? in prod? for like..actual prod and not 12 machines hosting minecraft
18:58 < ThatOneRoadie> I use RHEL in prod
18:58 < ThatOneRoadie> close enough?
18:59 < MadCamel> ucarp can sometimes be easier for that if tcp session persistence isn't an issue
18:59 < onenerdyguy> ThatOneRoadie, sadly no. we're already using RHEL, it's RHEV we're looking at now
19:00  * gavit votes for haproxy too
19:01 < Sousapro> Arch in prod
19:01 < Sousapro> I too like to live dangerously
19:04 < gnupluslinux> i'm mr t and i'm a night elf mohawk
19:05 < voidstar> templeos in prod
19:08 < ThatOneRoadie> Broke contract on the house I was buying
19:08 < ThatOneRoadie> yay broken contracts
19:08 < Sp00ky> woo
19:08 < insecurity> i'm gonna install mIRC just for the fuck of it
19:08 < Heresiarch> ThatOneRoadie: bad inspection, or just shady shit from the seller?
19:09 < asimon> Am I a bad person for using our backup service to transfer files when upgrading user workstations?
19:10 < ThatOneRoadie> Heresiarch: both
19:10 < Heresiarch> ThatOneRoadie: ug. Sucks.
19:10 < ThatOneRoadie> inspection turned up shit grading issues, an FPE distribution panel, gas leak on an old water heater, and shit drainage causing the patio slabs to lift
19:10 < gnupluslinux> ThatOneRoadie, you broke or someone else did
19:11 < gnupluslinux> oh i see
19:11 < Dish> ThatOneRoadie: I am in the process of buying a home and I'm scared of that shit happening D:
19:11 < Heresiarch> ThatOneRoadie: ...er. Yeeeah.
19:11 < ThatOneRoadie> I said: Correct the water heater and gas leak, replace the FPE Panel (because FPE had their UL listing revoked), add drainage around the property and fix the heaved slabs, and I'll disregard everything else in the inspection under $1000
19:12 < ThatOneRoadie> they said "We'll give you $1800 for the panel and that's it"
19:12 < ThatOneRoadie> "the water heater works fine it doesn't need to be fixed/replaced"
19:12 < Heresiarch> fixing the slabs and drainage would be a good 5-10k worth of work in and of itself.
19:12  * gnupluslinux has yet to buy a house
19:12 < gnupluslinux> how do you find a good inspector and can you usually trust em?
19:12 < mrghostman> why are panels so damned expensive
19:12 < ThatOneRoadie> so I said "Give me the $1800 for the panel (It's a $3000 replacement) and $2000 for the drainage and I'll correct the grading myself"
19:12 < voidstar> panels arent, electricians are mrghostman
19:13 < mrghostman> actually panels ARE
19:13 < abakedapplepie> who wants to see some carnage
19:13 < ThatOneRoadie> they said "we'll give you $1800 and nothing else"
19:13 < ThatOneRoadie> so I said "fuck right off"
19:13 < ThatOneRoadie> they obviously hadn't done any maintenance since they moved in 8 years ago
19:13 < ThatOneRoadie> like at all
19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> sewer had never been cleaned out in the 8 years they lived there
19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> radon galore in the place
19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> like 14 pCi/L
19:14 < mrghostman> err maybe not
19:14 < mrghostman> ;p;
19:14 < mrghostman> lol
19:14 < abakedapplepie> https://i.imgur.com/Fgh5MmF.jpg
19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> Panels are relatively cheap
19:14 < abakedapplepie> Apparently oil and POE don't mix
19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> breakers are expensive
19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> and so are the electrician
19:14 < ThatOneRoadie> s
19:14 < abakedapplepie> Whod'a think it
19:15 < abakedapplepie> wow that looks way more tame with the flash on
19:15 < abakedapplepie> the middle pins are completely gone on the POE port
19:15 < mrghostman> how much of a pita would it be to replace a 30 space 200 amp panel with a 40 space?
19:15 < ThatOneRoadie> the AFCI circuit breakers code requires now are like $50 each
19:15 < mrghostman> or am i better off just doing a sub panel?
19:15 < ThatOneRoadie> it adds up fast
19:15 < ThatOneRoadie> Sub panel it
19:15 < abakedapplepie> mrghostman do a sub panel
19:15 < abakedapplepie> not worth the effort
19:15 < abakedapplepie> unless you want to make it look really nice
19:16 < mrghostman> how many spaces do i need to use up on the existing to pull a sub?
19:16 < ThatOneRoadie> 2
19:16 < mrghostman> what size breaker?
19:16 < ThatOneRoadie> whatever your sub panel is + 20%
19:16 < abakedapplepie> depends
19:16 < mrghostman> cool
19:16 < mrghostman> fucking cheap electricians went with a 30 space instead of a 40
19:16 < abakedapplepie> use proper gauge wire for your amperage too
19:16 < TuxedoJack> Anyone know if there's a way to exempt a single user from quarantine for O365 mail?
19:17 < TuxedoJack> Just ONE user, not the whole organization
19:17 < TuxedoJack> Accountants who deal with time-sensitive shit and don't want to log into the fucking spam panel
19:17 < abakedapplepie> accountants are the worst
19:17 < abakedapplepie> second only to sales
19:17 < gnupluslinux> TuxedoJack, probably a rule you can set
19:17 < abakedapplepie> one of my clients got scammed for 50k
19:17 < gnupluslinux> do not quarantine or something
19:18 < abakedapplepie> she doesnt complain about the quarantine anymore
19:18 < gnupluslinux> heh
19:18 < abakedapplepie> scammer had a perfect storm of luck and timing to score that win
19:18 < abakedapplepie> they were in the middle of a lot of large purchases and a 50k wire transsfer was not out of the norm
19:20 < TuxedoJack> AntispamBypassEnabled should work - and it works on on-prem - but fuck O365 users right?
19:24 < Dish> Similar thing happened to one of our accountants for 20k. It was the nudge they needed to approve some budgets for a phishing campaign haha
19:25 < ravioli> ugh today is dragging
19:26 < mrghostman> ^
19:28 < Sousapro> I'm just glad I revived the production domain
19:29 < Sousapro> deleting the sysvol staging areas folder was sneaky lol
19:29 < giant_it_burrit> ?
19:30 < Sousapro> oh, devops came to me that weirdness was going on with the prod domain
19:31 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: what do you do in that situation
19:31 < JFDkthx> turn it over to the feds
19:31 < Sousapro> connected to the domain controller and DFS replication had been stopped for over a year, group policies were trashed (2 had folders deleted, default domain and default domain controller policies had all settings deleted) and they couldn't get the new WSUS GPO to load because of errors (hmm, wonder why? lol)
19:31 < JFDkthx> ?
19:32 < Sousapro> giant_it_burrit: it was literally sabotaged
19:32 < Sousapro> maybe not with a wooden shoe but intentionally damaged
19:32 < Sousapro> happened long before I got here
19:32 < giant_it_burrit> who did it
19:32 <@Code_Man65> How in the nine hells did they not get an alert in a fucking year about replication issues?
19:32 < giant_it_burrit> o
19:32 < Sousapro> Code_Man65: idiots set it up
19:32 < Sousapro> Code_Man65: I'm working on ELK or Splunk as soon as I finish up with this
19:33 < JFDkthx> mmm we're buying splunk
19:33 < JFDkthx> i cant wait
19:33 < giant_it_burrit> its nice
19:33 <@Code_Man65> Ask cryptic1 about splunk, he's a dashboard expert after his training :D
19:33 < Sousapro> I'm pretty sure felda has some splunk for you
19:33 < giant_it_burrit> he got training?
19:33 < Sousapro> might take him 15 minutes to spin up the instance though
19:33 < felda>  / ! \  New Bulletin:  JFDkthx (AKA gayFDkthx) has once again kidnapped little Indonesian children to try and build his new world Dystopia based on chicken tendies
19:33 < giant_it_burrit> Code_Man65: have him make you one for felda and pfsense]
19:34 < JFDkthx> Sousapro: where were you when felda was kill
19:34 < Sousapro> working on a destroyed domain
19:34 < Sousapro> lol
19:34 < JFDkthx> felda: first off, it's not kidnapping if i got them when they werent sleeping. second, who can fault me if i try.
19:34 < DomLS3> pfsense
19:35 < Sousapro> what did you do, felda? start trying to convince everyone Meraki > PFSense
19:35 < JFDkthx> esnesfp
19:35 < DomLS3> SonicWall > pfsense
19:35 < Sousapro> I would have handed out a temp ban for for suggesting meraki
19:35 < asimon> Sousapro: Why is that?
19:35 < DomLS3> pee-ef-cents
19:35 < Sp00ky> Sousapro, our entire network is Meraki. Lol.
19:35 < DomLS3> that shoud get JFDKthx kicked ^
19:36 < Sousapro> asimon: pfsense > meraki
19:36 < DomLS3> Code_Man65
19:36 < asimon> We just switched to meraki so I'm curious if there are issues I should expect
19:36 < JFDkthx> DomLS3: currently the only thing that gets me kicked is hatter
19:36 < JFDkthx> by cryptic1
19:36 < DomLS3> hatter is such a tool shed
19:36 < Sp00ky> asimon, Shit support honestly.
19:36 < asimon> Gotcha
19:36 < Sp00ky> asimon, But it's pretty easy to manage the hardware.
19:36 < JFDkthx> DomLS3: i bet he likes fish sticks
19:36 < DomLS3> JFDkthx: Oh I bet he LOVES fish sticks
19:37 < DomLS3> big fat fish sticks
19:37 < Sp00ky> asimon, MEraki support will tell you to use unstable beta firmware to fix problems.
19:37 < DomLS3> maybe even some darker fish sticks for the added flabor
19:37 < DomLS3> flavor
19:37 < asimon> yikes
19:37 < Sp00ky> asimon, The hardware is good though, we like it.
19:38 < DomLS3> funniest video I've seen in awhile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOHraf3LEk
19:39 < giant_it_burrit> this is olddddddddddddddd
19:39 < giant_it_burrit> come on pops
19:39 < DomLS3> idgaf
19:39 < DomLS3> it's worth a repost
19:39 < Sousapro> asimon: there isn't any major issues with it
19:39 < Hatter> DomLS3: I thought you perhaps learned not to antagonize me!
19:39 < gnupluslinux> i was expecting web dude vs sales guy
19:39 < Sousapro> asimon: It just needs to keep getting TLC from Cisco to get polished
19:39 < Hatter> there's no hope for JFDkthx
19:39 < Hatter> but you might learn from his mistakes
19:39 < DomLS3> gnupluslinux: the website is down!
19:40 < JFDkthx> Hatter: chew on aluminum foil
19:40 < Sousapro> DomLS3: lmao
19:40 < Sousapro> DomLS3: the wallpaper
19:40 < Heresiarch> Hatter: ...how can we not antagonize you, when you make it so fun (and easy!)
19:40 < gnupluslinux> Hatter, u r tha sux0rz
19:40 < Hatter> well I get a bit carried away sometimes
19:40 < Hatter> I can't help myself
19:40 < Hatter> gnupluslinux: that is IT
19:40 < giant_it_burrit> you could if you used tcl
19:40 < giant_it_burrit> rkeene
19:41 < giant_it_burrit> where art thou
19:50 < dragonfleas> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGHDM9TFh4E
19:54 < Church-> giant_it_burrit: In vegas and getting ready for a conference in NYC.
19:54 < giant_it_burrit> rkeene is?
19:54 < Church-> Yep
19:54 < giant_it_burrit> i hope he comes to visit
19:55 < Church-> giant_it_burrit: Heh come to the Hilton I wanna say on fri then.
19:55 < giant_it_burrit> which one
19:55 < Church-> Sec let me find the con location.
19:55 < giant_it_burrit> ill surprise him
19:56 < _Straffer> What do you guys think about Comodo One?
19:56 < _Straffer> within the last year
19:56 < dragonfleas> waited for 2 hours for the secret server install to finish
19:57 < dragonfleas> installer crashes
19:57 < dragonfleas> -____-
19:57 < dragonfleas> probably because I only have 1 gig of ram on this server
19:57 < Church-> giant_it_burrit: Supposed to be the Hilton midtown I believe
19:57 < JollyRgrs> what is comodo one, _Straffer? you talkin about the AV program?
19:57 < dragonfleas> maybe i should assign it 4
19:57 < ekaj> 1 giggity
19:57 < Church-> I'll be there too.
19:57 < dragonfleas> is 1 gig enough for secret server
19:57 < JFDkthx> felda: i just emailed abuse@namecheap.com
19:57 < _Straffer> JollyRgrs: sorry, their RMM tool similar to Labtech/Kaseya/Nable
19:57 < JFDkthx> saying that you're abusing felda.io
19:57 < felda> haha they just terminated my web hosting
19:57 < JFDkthx> by not having a webserver up
19:57 < _Straffer> freemium
19:57 < JollyRgrs> _Straffer: oh, no clue
19:58 < JFDkthx> felda: i check it every day, it's how i get my news
19:58 < JFDkthx> pls2dtn and rehost.
19:58 < JFDkthx> tia
19:58 < _Straffer> I'm using it for my familia... and so far... what the shit. It's good. Deployed free comodo AV, web filtering, patch management.
19:58 < mrghostman> RIP in peace felda.io
19:58 < _Straffer> for a free product
19:59 < JollyRgrs> _Straffer: why not just use built-in defender?
19:59 < JollyRgrs> i mean, win10 even does patch mgmt
19:59 < JollyRgrs> why would you try to make more work for yourself at home?
19:59 < _Straffer> I initially installed it for remote support
19:59 < JFDkthx> felda: !remindme 20190125 felda.io expires
19:59 < _Straffer> and just switched those on
19:59 < JollyRgrs> that's what teamviewer (free for home use) is for
19:59 < _Straffer> just to see what it was like. Didn't care about htem
19:59 < _Straffer> Sure, but I wanted to try something different.
20:00 < _Straffer> It hasn't been any work. I also use it for work on the side now.
20:01 < giant_it_burrit> _Straffer: what has been?
20:02 < _Straffer> ComodoOne RMM
20:02 < giant_it_burrit> why is it free
20:02 < Hatter> didn't someone recently recommend some good environment sensors in here or on reddit?
20:02 < _Straffer> Freemium I suppose. Once you hit a certain point if you're a company you'll need more advanced support
20:03 < _Straffer> I've thrown all my side-work customers and family computers in there with their consent and its nice.
20:05 < alazare619> _Straffer:  wait your saying that comodo has a remote management tool
20:06 < _Straffer> yes, sorry
20:06 < SpeakerToMeat> You guys have any oss web based logbook/journal you use/like?
20:06 < giant_it_burrit> onenote
20:06 < SpeakerToMeat> I was gonna say funny, but...
20:07 < giant_it_burrit> you asked what i like
20:07 < JRWR> so ICANN is going to shutdown WHOIS for everything due to GPDR
20:08 < alazare619> i use standard notes
20:08 < scwizard> echo "value" | openssl dgst -sha256 -hmac "key"
20:08 < alazare619> paid for their extended because i love its code ide and other features of it
20:08 < alazare619> plus its stupidly lightweight and allows backup to gdrive and dropbox and others
20:08 < scwizard> is there anyway to specifiy the value as an argument rather than than as standard input?
20:08 < SpeakerToMeat> it might work
20:08 < SpeakerToMeat> giant_it_burrit: I also said oss but...
20:08 < alazare619> standard notes is opensource
20:10 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: The trouble is I want some stuff that I won't get for free
20:10 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: altough, standard notes seems to have part of it!
20:10 < giant_it_burrit> such as
20:10 < scwizard> eh whatever it doesn't matter
20:10 < alazare619> SpeakerToMeat: all i'm going to say is the standard notes "serial" for extended i.e. the code ide and picture support  is just a base64 encoded json string
20:11 < alazare619> if you want more pm me
20:11 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: Only one quick question that's quicker to ask than to search.. does it offer offline for the android client?
20:11 < alazare619> yes
20:12 < kondor6c> yeah it looks that way, I think you can almost see a remainder of them but I can't tell if that is an artifact of the photo
20:12 < SpeakerToMeat> that's it
20:12 < alazare619> its backend uses git for revision control
20:12 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: Standard it is.... unless...
20:12 < alazare619> so it has a local git like repo as well
20:12 < alazare619> then when its online it will sync back
20:12 < TuxedoJack> "Woah, calm down there Satan, we just want to give them a little mild beating, not ruin their life. Edit: lol, didn't even notice this was actually u/tuxedo_jack I was replying to until after I posted this."
20:12 < TuxedoJack> fukken lol'd
20:13 < TuxedoJack> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/8jin3k/if_my_grades_are_affected_by_this_i_will_be/dz0x7af/
20:13 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: This is sweet nectar
20:13 < alazare619> i paid for hte premium just because i wanted to see how the premium activated to reverse engineer it lol
20:14 < alazare619> i had a feeling i knew how but needed proof
20:14 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: ...damn. That's a little much, even for going full-BOFH.
20:14 < alazare619> and its worth it i find myself using it alot...and i like the android client its quick unlike onenote
20:14 < TuxedoJack> Heresiarch: oh, but don't tell me you wouldn't
20:15 < Heresiarch> TuxedoJack: too much work as a response, unless you're going for political vengeance.
20:15 < TuxedoJack> Nah, just schadenfreude
20:15 < Heresiarch> Also, reddit needs to ease up on this redesign crap.
20:16 < kondor6c> there is also  leanote, I have used it, only real issue I have is that much of the documentation is not in english (which is my native language). I would have liked if they used postgres as their backend instead of mongo
20:18 < GreyKite> TuxedoJack: you always are willing to go the extra mile to bofh someone
20:19 < giant_it_burrit> never changed
20:19 < corn266> JRWR you got a link for that?
20:19 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: dude.. yes.
20:20 < scwizard> https://pastebin.com/raw/betzeT57
20:20 < scwizard> why does hmac via python and hmac via bash give me different results?
20:21 < pcspkr> because you're doing it wrong
20:21 < pcspkr> same algorithm and same input = same output
20:22 < scwizard> pcspkr: yeah and the algorithm is the same and the input is the same
20:22 < scwizard> so why is the output different
20:22 < GreyKite> pcspkr: only if the implementations are done correctly
20:22 < Heresiarch> scwizard: looks like you're hashing both key and value in the python script, but only one of each in bash.
20:22 < gnupluslinux> fucking certs
20:22 < gnupluslinux> y u no werk
20:22 < scwizard> Heresiarch: what do you mean???
20:22 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: can I share?
20:22 < scwizard> "only one of each"
20:22 < scwizard> you can't do an hmac with just one thingy
20:23 < scwizard> it's getting the value via stdin and the key via a cli argument for openssl
20:23 < scwizard> wait
20:23 < scwizard> i got it
20:23 < GreyKite> boop
20:23 < scwizard> echo is doing a fucking \n
20:23 < scwizard> i bet
20:23 < GreyKite> probably
20:23 < ebol4> echo -n baby
20:23 < alazare619> SpeakerToMeat:  what do you mean share
20:23 < SpeakerToMeat> seems not
20:24 < alazare619> oh like a link from inside to outside you can and you can not
20:24 < alazare619> it allows full backup to dropbox
20:24 < alazare619> so in a round about way you can share from dropbox
20:24 < JRWR> corn266: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17075514
20:24 < scwizard> yup that was it
20:24 < scwizard> fucking newlines
20:24 < Heresiarch> scwizard: ah, looked like it was different b/c of the split command-lines.
20:24 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: No, I mean have two users... well I can make everybody use the same user...
20:25 < alazare619> yes thtas one way
20:25 < scwizard> see working now
20:25 < scwizard> https://pastebin.com/raw/fhbAUH2c
20:25 < alazare619> and its under extremely fast development
20:25 < alazare619> so its possible that there will be a time where you can add multiple users
20:25 < alazare619> but as a single point of data entry i've choosen this over one note
20:25 < alazare619> for teams onenote might be better for solo...i prefer this over one note
20:26 < GreyKite> onenote can fuck right off
20:26 < scwizard> Heresiarch: what the fuck is "split command lines" don't you know what a pipe is lel
20:28 < Heresiarch> scwizard: pipes? You mean you don't just redirect everywhere and use tmp files? *ducks*
20:28  * scwizard rings a bell
20:28 < scwizard> shame shame shame shame shame
20:28 < Heresiarch> rofl
20:29 < Heresiarch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy4CN9DVPII
20:29 < SpeakerToMeat> alazare619: Have you tested it with two machiens open at the same time or more? does it fare?
20:29 < alazare619> yep
20:29 < alazare619> live updates on the other if its online
20:29 < SpeakerToMeat> There's one or two things missing, I might start with this and as things become needed I might set up my own server and tweak the code
20:29 < alazare619> i go to meetings nad use my phone for meeting notes
20:29 < alazare619> get back to my desktop pc to see all the notes etc
20:31 < JollyRgrs> OMG, in a meeting... i have no biz. being here
20:31 < SpeakerToMeat> Yeah
20:31 < JollyRgrs> waste of my time
20:31 < giant_it_burrit> isnt that most
20:31 < SpeakerToMeat> so far there's only two things missing, one is paid (I can't pay right now) but I can emulate it. The other I'll need to modify the code but it's not necessary rightnow
20:31 < JollyRgrs> i thought it was going to be 3 ppl working on a specific thing... nope... like 10 ppl and on a diff thing
20:31 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: the organizer came to me asking who all needed to be in the meeting for issue x
20:31 <@killdash9> JollyRgrs: you described most meetings
20:32 < JollyRgrs> killdash9: here, i actually belong in most meetings...
20:32 < JollyRgrs> even if i don't want to be there
20:32 < SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: Poor sod
20:33 < giant_it_burrit> leave
20:33 < giant_it_burrit> tell them you have to poop
20:35 < JFDkthx> speaking of poops. i just destroyed our public lobby restroom
20:35 < JFDkthx> dont even feel bad
20:39 < Hatter> ewww
21:02 < Jacob843> Hey. Figured I'd post in here first. Does anyone have a go-to 3CX vendor that doesn't mark prices up 300%? I need an annual 4-sim call pro license for a side project and literally every vendor I have called is quoting me at least $500 USD on a $200 USD license.
21:03 < JollyRgrs> our meeting rooms are so stuffy :(
21:04 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: some of us care about our image at work and like getting promotions from time to time :P
21:05 < abakedapplepie> Jacob843 iirc there are some outfits that resell used licenses
21:05 < abakedapplepie> maybe look for that?
21:05 < abakedapplepie> not too familiar with 3CX
21:05 < abakedapplepie> but i used a lot of used licenses when i ad a 3com pbx
21:05 < Jacob843> Hmm I will look into it. Not sure if the license gets stuck on the fqdn or not
21:07 < giant_it_burrit> I get to wear a t-shirt and jeans JollyRgrs. I'm also as loud as you hear in the office
21:10 < hexmonkey> OMG what did I come back to
21:11 < hexmonkey> wait no nevermind
21:11 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: i can wear that, too... but i wear jeans and an untucked polo M-Th
21:11 < JollyRgrs> i would be wearin flops, but my wife told me she wouldn't let me
21:12 < JollyRgrs> i like sex... so i wear sneakers
21:12 < giant_it_burrit> But your married
21:12 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: something something sandals are lame
21:12 < giant_it_burrit> Are you wearing your new balances dad
21:12 < giant_it_burrit> ?
21:12 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: all the more to be careful about not cutting off my supply chain
21:12 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: sketchers
21:13 < giant_it_burrit> Its the s
21:13 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: not sandals
21:13 < JollyRgrs> sandals ARE lame
21:13 < JollyRgrs> i'm talkin about flip flops
21:13 < JollyRgrs> totes diff
21:13 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: same thing
21:13 < JollyRgrs> nope
21:13 < hexmonkey> put some shoes on ya hippy
21:13 < JollyRgrs> techincally, flops are a type of sandal, but most ppl think of back-strap when talking about sandals... like birkenstocks or something
21:13 < JFDkthx> coworker is talking about how we need an ethnic cleansing
21:13 < JFDkthx> to fix over population
21:13 < JollyRgrs> those are hippy shoes (sandals)... flops are easy going shoes
21:14  * JFDkthx scoots away slowly.
21:14 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: starting with his first?
21:14 < JollyRgrs> wait... he's not white, is he?
21:14 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: don't give him the infinity gauntlet
21:14 < giant_it_burrit> Are you a shoebie?
21:14 < JFDkthx> i dont feel so good mr hexmonkey
21:14 < JFDkthx> also long time no smell hexmonkey
21:14 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: super white
21:14 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: aww so nice you noticed
21:14 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: i was doing this thing I do once in awhile: work
21:15 < JFDkthx> yeah no one here knows about that
21:15 < JFDkthx> except for rkeene and cryptic1
21:15 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: hes a nuclear family type
21:15 < JFDkthx> fucking security guy too
21:15 < JFDkthx> i'll chalk it up to him being in security.
21:15 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: oh, i'm not super white, i got a bit of injun in me... like 1/16th or something
21:15 < JFDkthx> hehehe
21:16 < JollyRgrs> other than that, i'm irish and welsh/english i think
21:16 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: im 1/2 mexican. but the irish in me counters all of the mexican. so now im just white.
21:16 < JollyRgrs> so yeah... uh... pretty white
21:16 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: according to the DNA test I gave to Ancestry and the NSA, i'm 1% Native american
21:16 < JollyRgrs> when i was playing t-ball, i was super tan
21:16 < JFDkthx> 60 years ago?
21:16 < JollyRgrs> and brown hair... but then when i switched to basketball
21:17 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: there are probably better things to be Super at
21:17 < JollyRgrs> i couldn't tan anymore and my hair started getting lighter brown and when i got old enough for facial hair... it is red
21:17 < ravioli> you guys want some italian in u
21:17 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: same same, i've got dark brown almost black eyes. almost black hair, and red/blonde facial hair.
21:17 < ravioli> put me in your mouth
21:17 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: i wasn't like bronze... just a nice healthy tan... but compared to my now white as #000000 ass... i was super tan
21:18 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: did that line work with JFDkthx's mom?
21:18 < Hatter> ravioli: are you sicilian? I heard an interesting story about sicilians
21:18 < JFDkthx> Hatter: no he's pasta
21:18 < JFDkthx> u tool
21:18 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: I thought #000000 was black
21:18 < JollyRgrs> wait
21:18 < JFDkthx> FFFFFFF
21:18 < JollyRgrs> you are right
21:18 < JollyRgrs> #FFFFFF
21:18 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcZCGMCDzbU
21:18 < hexmonkey> heh
21:18 < JollyRgrs> brain alraedy melted, not even done with tuesday (i keep thinking it is wednesday)
21:19 < ravioli> it helps if you pretend it's monday
21:19 < ravioli> and then eventually realize that it's actually tuesday.
21:19 < hexmonkey> yay fedex said my 31" monitor just got delivered
21:20 < hexmonkey> at my garage where the sun is probably baking the living bejeezus out of it
21:20 < hexmonkey> 88F today
21:20 < JFDkthx> where is it
21:20 < JFDkthx> i'll go grab it for you
21:20 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: we've already been hitting mid 90s... easily :(
21:20 < hexmonkey> JFDkthx: my address is 127.0.0.1
21:20 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: its 50 today :)
21:20 < JollyRgrs> must be nice
21:20 < JFDkthx> it isnt
21:21 < JFDkthx> it's fucking raining
21:21 < JollyRgrs> same here!
21:21 < JollyRgrs> which is nice, b/c it only gets up to like 70s or 80s
21:21 < JollyRgrs> but when it stops raining and sun comes back out...
21:21 < JollyRgrs> it's even worse b/c road is just steam
21:21 < JFDkthx> hexmonkey: weird way to say ::1
21:21 < asimon> God today is moving slowly
21:21 < asimon> Maybe because I haven't done shit all day
21:21 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: are you in Florida?
21:22 < ravioli> p r e a c h
21:22 < JFDkthx> asimon: do what i do when its a slow day. read a book
21:22 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: i am in the continental 48
21:22 < asimon> JFDkthx: Any recommendations?
21:22 < ravioli> you've read the hitchhikers guide series right asimon
21:22 < asimon> Getting close to done with my latest star wars audiobook
21:22 < asimon> yeah
21:22 < Hatter> douglas adams stole 42 from lewis carroll
21:22 < JFDkthx> asimon: this is literally what im reading right now https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/selinux_users_and_administrators_guide/index
21:22 < Hatter> prove me wrong
21:23 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: well played. you described perfectly my experience last time i was in disney world in august
21:23 < hexmonkey> JollyRgrs: rain then steam
21:23 < JollyRgrs> haha
21:23 < JollyRgrs> hexmonkey: yeah, you just see it rising from the concrete
21:23 < JollyRgrs> and it is muggy as hell
21:23 < JFDkthx> feels like you're walking around in the devils tain
21:23 < hexmonkey> soaking wet outside, up to my ankles in water, then it's a meat locker inside
21:23 < asimon> Lol that looks like it would kill me
21:23 < JFDkthx> t
21:24 < asimon> Has anyone rolled out bitlocker for their enterprise yet?
21:24 < JollyRgrs> asimon: yes
21:24 < JollyRgrs>  a lot of ppl ahve
21:24 < asimon> (I guess its been out for a few years now)
21:24 < JollyRgrs> like... A LOT
21:24 < JollyRgrs> a few years? it has been around since win7 enterprise, dude
21:24 < asimon> Shows my experience with it lol
21:25 < pcspkr> it's a decade old feature
21:25 < precise> https://i.imgur.com/LKkIgEa.gifv
21:25 < JollyRgrs> with that experience with it... it'll be a steep learning curve
21:25 < pcspkr> all the 3rd party disk encryption tools now use bitlocker as their backend
21:25 < ravioli> precise++
21:25 < JollyRgrs> it isn't too troublesome... but with no background in it, might be a bit steep at first
21:25 < hexmonkey> I'm not really into cryptocurrency
21:25 < JollyRgrs> pcspkr: nowai
21:25 < precise> ravioli: My weekend plans
21:25 < asimon> I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it to figure out
21:25 < ravioli> god dammit i wish i were as cool as you
21:25 < precise> lmao
21:25 < precise> Also, hi, long time to IRC ravioli
21:26 < JollyRgrs> pcspkr: mcafee still does their own... but they do ALSO offer native encryption mgmt
21:26 < JollyRgrs> asimon: yes, yes it is
21:26 < asimon> I guess I could just enable it on one of our machine not yet deployed and play around
21:26 < asimon> We've had issues with our backup system and encrypted volumes before - does bitlocker interfere with that kind of file-level backup at all?
21:26 < JollyRgrs> i would recommend it on all machines... even desktops (they get stolen, too... esp since USFF are smaller than laptops)
21:27 < giant_it_burrit> i hated the mcacfee solution
21:27 < JollyRgrs> asimon: how did they interfere with file level backups? you're speaking of a full disk encrpytion causing issues?
21:27 < giant_it_burrit> what was their solution called
21:27 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: it is terrible, we're moving ppl off of it as they get win10 pro
21:27 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: ePo
21:27 < giant_it_burrit> that was it
21:28 < JollyRgrs> epo is trash
21:28 < JollyRgrs> so much total trash
21:28 < giant_it_burrit> native bitlocker is nice
21:28 < giant_it_burrit> with a tpm
21:28 < JollyRgrs> with MBAM if possible to manage it
21:28 < giant_it_burrit> no need to let user know encrypted
21:28 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: without TPM, you gotta use a usb stick.... nothx
21:28 < giant_it_burrit> back up to ad
21:28 < asimon> JollyRgrs: Not with full-disk encryption, no. We had some shit with truecrypt volumes that somehow they weren't able to be unlocked and also had to be fully backed up every time anything inside them changed
21:28 < ravioli> hi precise.
21:28 < giant_it_burrit> you dont have tpm
21:28 < giant_it_burrit> rip in pepperino
21:28 < asimon> Since our backup program couldn't see individual files within the encyrpted volume
21:29 < JollyRgrs> asimon: well, yeah, if you only encrypt certain containers... then you'd have to decrypt them before they can be backe dup
21:29 < JollyRgrs> or you'd just have to backup the blob
21:29 < gnupluslinux> blobby blob blobl
21:29 < JollyRgrs> that makes no sense to expect otherwise
21:29 < giant_it_burrit> borg?
21:29 < JollyRgrs> otherwise, i'd jsut use the backup solution to hack into your "encrypted" files
21:30 < asimon> Right, that was an inconvenient feature
21:30 < asimon> So as such we've tried to limit the usage of those encryption volumes to what actually needs it
21:31 < asimon> The full-disk encryption would gracefully handle changing files on the drive though?
21:31 < asimon> (in regards to backup that is)
21:31 < estranger> http://thetechtribune.com/10-best-tech-startups-in-santa-clara/  noice
21:31 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: bob loblaw law blog
21:32 < Heresiarch> huh. Didn't know malwarebytes was in SC.
21:33 < estranger> its actually right next to us
21:33 < precise> Speaking of bird law, I saw a bird jump up to the top of a dandelion and grab it with a claw, and use its weight to drag it down, and then it pecked at the seeds at the top which was then pinned to the ground. Birds are smart af.
21:33 < estranger> i didnt know malwarebytes was a startup lol
21:33 < corn266> I had a squirrel drop a nut in front of my car tire to break open when I drove over it
21:34 < precise> Niiiceee
21:34 < corn266> lazy fucker
21:34 < estranger> did you then drop a nut on the squirrel?
21:34 < precise> I had a squirell jump from within a bush in front of my car today
21:34 < corn266> is there any other choice?
21:34 < precise> Was like 5ft up when it jumped, damn near landed on my hood
21:34 < asimon> JollyRgrs: While we're talking bitlocker, what best practices for recovery key management do you recommend? Looks like you could just tie it to AD
21:35 <@Code_Man65> Either store the recovery key in AD or use MBAM (if you have MDOP)
21:35 <@Code_Man65> Or do both if you want
21:35 < hexmonkey> it's always fun to be unnecessarily CCed on an email that has the words "Contact the attorneys and get them involved immediately."
21:36 <@Code_Man65> hexmonkey:  Try getting a request at 4:15 on a Friday that you have to forward on to the head lawyer for the company who is OOO on vacation.
21:37 < hexmonkey> Code_Man65: we just have a weird system where every email to anyone seems to be cc'd to a 40+ person mailing list
21:38 < gnupluslinux> 000?
21:38 < hexmonkey> we have a ticketing system but I don't know what they use it for
21:38 < admiralspark|afk> man
21:38 < admiralspark|afk> must be nice
21:38 < admiralspark|afk> we dont have a ticket system
21:38 < hexmonkey> i get thousands of emails a day for no reason whatsoever
21:39 < aName> Noisy reporters?
21:39 < gnupluslinux> i'll trade your emails for phone calls
21:39 < hexmonkey> including invites to every provisioning task and new TTU
21:39 < hexmonkey> aName: not even counting the automated emails from systems, etc.
21:39 < aName> admiralspark: It takes about ten minutes to spin up RT, yeah?
21:40 < admiralspark> aName: RT?\
21:40 < admiralspark> Russia Today?
21:40 < ravioli> rooster teeth
21:41 < aName> Request Tracker
21:41 < aName> Takes in emails, makes ticket system
21:41  * aName shrugs
21:43 < hexmonkey> open source too, i think
21:43 < ebol4> yeeeeee it's perl
21:43 < admiralspark> oh
21:44 < admiralspark> aName: no no, you don't understand, my direct management doesn't want a tracking system
21:44  * aName blinks
21:44 < admiralspark> and the CFO above him hasn't asked for one either
21:44 < admiralspark> oh yeah buddy
21:44 < ebol4> why
21:44 < aName> ^
21:44 < admiralspark> I am living the goddamn dream here, complete with projects getting dropped by IT. I use a kanban for my own stuff but I get plenty of facepalms due to the other guys
21:45 < precise> Is there anyway to setup Office 2016 without a MSFT account?
21:45 < ebol4> precise: you can install it without an account i think, but it will badger you to login once it's installed
21:45 < ebol4> and won't let you use it iirc
21:45 < precise> damnit
21:45 < admiralspark> technically it's not my job, unfortunately. I have been tasked with finding a nice, non-time-tracking, project management software for high level stuff
21:45 < precise> fuckin msft
21:46 < bvierra> yo anyone here a good front end dev that knows craftcms?
21:46 < Alternity> admiralspark: jira/confluence
21:48 < admiralspark> Alternity: IT, not programmers. Also, they specifically don't want something that can track technician time. You see the underlying problems here..?
21:48 < ProdigalTim> GABAMN
21:48 < admiralspark> someone, somewhere doesn't do work, and doesn't want c-levels to know
21:48 < ProdigalTim> pew pew pow
21:48 < Alternity> i work in IT, i use jira every day
21:48 < admiralspark> so I track my shit and CYA and hope for the best
21:48 < Alternity> we also dont' use the time tracking features at all
21:49 < admiralspark> Alternity: for high-level project tracking?
21:49 < hexmonkey> pretty HR girl who's sitting in the cube behind me today just said to someone on the phone "What would your ability be to work from that location"
21:49 < admiralspark> hmmm
21:49 < Alternity> admiralspark: it's kind of the defacto standard
21:49 < Alternity> admiralspark: check out teamwork.com as well
21:49 < Alternity> it's simpler, might be what you are looking for
21:49 < admiralspark> when I've worked with Jira before, it's specifically only for doing stuff like sprints and whatnot
21:49 < Alternity> maybe 15 years ago
21:50 < Alternity> now it works well as generic project management and task management
21:50 < hexmonkey> admiralspark: try Asana?
21:50 < admiralspark> this was last year, in an Atlassian shop :P
21:50 < admiralspark> hmm
21:50 < Alternity> our entire company uses JIRA
21:50 < admiralspark> cool, Alternity thanks for the Jira tip and the teamwork link
21:50 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: jira service desk.
21:50 < admiralspark> hexmonkey: havent even heard of it, will check it out too
21:50 < Alternity> if you've used it before less of a learning curve then i guess
21:50 < Alternity> good point, jira service desk will have most of ut his stuff premade
21:50 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: specifically don't want ticketing :P
21:50 < Alternity> has SLA and helpdesk workflows and such
21:50 < admiralspark> hmmmmmm
21:51 < Alternity> our marketing dept really liked teamwork.com
21:51 < hexmonkey> admiralspark: not sure if its exactly what you're looking for but worth a look if only to know what you don't want
21:51 < admiralspark> I want all of this, but I have to basically build a bullshit copout solution though
21:51 < admiralspark> thanks
21:52 < admiralspark> Alternity: I'll take a look and see, this gives me some good links to check out
21:52 < admiralspark> thanks guys
21:52 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: you're gonna have a hard row to hoe if some level of your management doesn't want ticketing.
21:54 < admiralspark> Agreed. To be honest, I think the higher levels don't know it's a possibility. Trust me, we do a lot of low/no-tech stuff
21:54 < Heresiarch> SMB?
21:55 < hexmonkey> Steve Matthews Band?
21:55 < ebol4> that's somehow even worse sounding than dave matthews
21:55 < hexmonkey> :D
21:58 < Alternity> hey i saw steve matthews live
21:58 < Alternity> when i was like, 13
21:58 < ravioli> the poor man's bela fleck?
22:00 < hexmonkey> I think bela fleck played in a few songs on the only DMB CD I owned when I was in high school
22:01 < khelpw> Bela fleck is the man.
22:01 < pcspkr> being on call...
22:02 < FenJai>  Has anyone here set up pfBlockerNG ? I have my list etc set up but its not applying them. I think my clients are using my DNS (8.8.8.8) instead of the VIP
22:05 < F34RInc> FenJai, take out your 3rd party dns servers and only use the firewall for dns
22:06 < F34RInc> FenJai, then NAT all your DNS to the firewall and that will stop them from using any other DNS server
22:06 < felda> FenJai make sure DHCP isn't setting something else as your DNS
22:06 < felda> FenJai https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Redirecting_all_DNS_Requests_to_pfSense
22:07 < ebol4> unghhhh it's only 4pm
22:07 < Alternity> 4:07
22:07 < asimon> ebol4: same
22:07 < Alternity> i guess i'm 7 minutes ahead of you guys
22:07 < ravioli> 4:07
22:07 < Alternity> i'd suggest buy buy buy
22:07 < Alternity> and sell sell sell in 7 minutes
22:08 < hexmonkey> I prefer to think of it as 1526414871
22:08 < ravioli> 4:08
22:08 < asimon> I'd buy in to your timeshare
22:09 < hexmonkey> i don't think anyone wants to share 4pm on a Tuesday
22:09 < FenJai> Good shout felda F34RInc . Its working now
22:10 < Sousapro> Anyone ever set up ue-v on windows 10?
22:10 < Sousapro> I'm an hour in and the stupid thing isn't working lol
22:13 < arlion> in bash, how would I get lines, say, 100-200
22:13 < hexmonkey> lines of what?
22:13 < hexmonkey> history? a text file?
22:13 < arlion> text file.
22:14 < hexmonkey> head -300 file.txt | tail -100
22:14 < arlion> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
22:14 < hexmonkey> or some math that adds up properly
22:15 < arlion> I wonder if head -n {100..200} works
22:15 < ebol4> hexmonkey is correct, but change last part to tail 200
22:16 < arlion> yeah, just the issue is that list is thousands of lines, and I'm trying to iterate through a 100 at a time.
22:16 < arlion> I guess I could just write a while loop with a counter in it.
22:16 < ebol4> yeah that would be the best way to go
22:17 < ebol4> assuming you meant reading in the whole file at once
22:17 < arlion> it's dynamically fetched inventory file, but yes.
22:17 < hexmonkey> yeah if there's a known number of lines then my way might work okay, but if it's a rolling number then maybe loop
22:18 < hexmonkey> also how the fuck is it still tuesday
22:18  * hexmonkey headdesks
22:19 < ravioli> right?!
22:19  * hexmonkey carefully avoids T0mb3ry SA carbon keycaps during headdesk
22:20 < hexmonkey> gah bad spelling coworkers
22:21 < hexmonkey> "The speeds he is getting are not within specks to what he ordered."
22:21 < hexmonkey> FULL. PICARD. FACEPALM.
22:22 < ebol4> 4:22 boys
22:22 < ebol4> a mere 40 minutes until i can legally leave the building
22:24 < znpy> lol
22:24 < hexmonkey> ebol4: legally?
22:25 < ebol4> the managers are permitted to use lethal force to prevent people from leaving early here
22:25 < AnimalFarmPig> I want to go home, but it appears that my internet service is still down at home :(
22:25 < estranger> lol
22:25 < znpy> guys, a quick question: does anybody know of something that I can do as a side-job with my sysadmin skills ?
22:25 < hexmonkey> AnimalFarmPig: go have a beer instead
22:25 < ebol4> znpy: can you juggle?
22:25 < estranger> znpy, I used to do Loss Prevention on the side when I worked as a sys admin
22:25 < AnimalFarmPig> hexmonkey: I have lots of beer at home...
22:25 < znpy> ebol4, i literally can't
22:25 < ebol4> circus is out then
22:26 < znpy> what is loss prevention ?
22:26 < hexmonkey> AnimalFarmPig: but the bar has wifi
22:26 < ebol4> znpy: they harass shoplifters
22:26 < estranger> daytime info wizard, nighttime shoplift thwarter
22:26 < precise> Who needs sleep?
22:26 < hexmonkey> znpy: make sysadmin-themed crafts and sell them on etsy?
22:26 < precise> lol
22:26 < AnimalFarmPig> hexmonkey: ehhh.... I've got 4G data on my phone and I suppose I could just tether it for my laptop
22:26 < precise> I want a do the needful fabric shopping bag
22:26 < precise> Or a BOFH year calendar
22:27 < hexmonkey> look at Mr Moneybags with his 4g and a laptop
22:27 < precise> Can I get a 12 month calendar of Sexy Stallman?
22:27 < ebol4> is that the guy that eats his foot skin
22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> I have the flagship Windows Phone
22:27 < Heresiarch> znpy: short-term 1099 IT jobs (pending existing employer approval)?
22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> a Lumia 950
22:27 < precise> ebol4: Maybe
22:27 < AnimalFarmPig> it was like $90
22:28 < hexmonkey> precise: at my last job the owner hosted a beer tasting around xmas and had pint glasses made every year that said things like "do the needful" or "liberating your waiter since 1996"
22:28 < precise> heh
22:28 < hexmonkey> REACTIVE + COVERUP = PROACTIVE
22:29 < hexmonkey> i think one year it had the company logo and "Powered by eBay"
22:33 <@cryptic1> evening
22:33 < precise> Hello
22:33 < ThatOneRoadie> Soup
22:33 < hexmonkey> GIRD YOUR LOINS CRYPTIC1 IS BACK
22:33  * precise girds
22:34 < hexmonkey> instructions unclear, loincloth caught in ceiling fan
22:36 < felda> little known fact that cryptic1 actually has GERD and does most of his sysadmin work on the toilet
22:37 < Gencade`> felda: how did you come across this?
22:37 < bvierra> anyone know of a good laptop stand that can roll over a lazy boy chair?
22:37 < felda> Gencade` it's because most of his work looks like poop XD
22:37 < Gencade`> hehe xd poop xd funny haha hehe xd
22:38 < Gencade`> I'm just wondering when cryptic1 is gonna -q my main client, it's been 4 days
22:38 < Gencade`> and he won't even respond to pm's
22:39 < precise> rip
22:39 < felda> cryptic1 we got somebody doing a ban evasion and this time it isn't even me
22:39 < Gencade`> it's not an evasion?
22:39 < alazare619> any of my Nebraska, oklahoma,kansas,texas sysadmins got any openings
22:39 < alazare619> i'm ready to GTFO of here
22:39 < precise> Gencade`: Guess wat
22:40 < Gencade`> precise: wat
22:40 < felda> alazare619 come move to illinois with me :D
22:40 < precise> got em
22:40 <@cryptic1> nice mute avoiding
22:40 < felda> HEUHEUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHEUHEU
22:40 < felda> just as planned
22:40 <@cryptic1> told ya you needed a break
22:40 < alazare619> felda at this point i probably would
22:40 < alazare619> i'm so over this place
22:40 < felda> you're close to IL right?
22:41 < alazare619> close ish
22:41 < alazare619> like 2 states over
22:41 < felda> you could move to IA and buy a cheap house for meth and not ever be able to leave because you're now addicted to meth
22:41 < aName> I love when people are screaming ''this doesn't work" and like... I go to use it and it works fine
22:41 < aName> To the point where I'm confused what they're trying to demonstrate
22:43 < alazare619> aName:  i often wonder how people operate pc's some times
22:43 < alazare619> where they dont really understand how they even work
22:43 < alazare619> like people who dont understand start menu has options for programs installed
22:43 < alazare619> how do you even do your job ?!
22:43 < alazare619> do they just memorize actions?
22:44 < hexmonkey> aName: i usually have to tell them to start from scratch and show me every step
22:49 < CheckYourSix> Woot, violent thunderstorm is about to start
22:49 < scwizard> man
22:50 < scwizard> that feel when you automate something and you're like "well I probably won't use this but it's good just in case"
22:50 < scwizard> and then just in case comes and you've saved so much time
22:50 < CheckYourSix> What's a good (but really cheap) tablet for reading ebooks, maybe some light web browsing, Plex/Youtube
22:50 < CheckYourSix> scwizard: +++
22:50 < hexmonkey> the radar for my area looks like the Nexus from that star trek movie
22:51 < CheckYourSix> We have a big strip of red about to hammer us
22:51 < Gencade`> Psh, you told me nothing, you haven't responded to any PM's crytpic1
22:51 < Gencade`> And it's been 4 days lol
22:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> anyone remember how to remove a msoluser from the GAL with powershell?
22:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> office365
22:52 < felda> speaking of Office365
22:52 < felda> have you guys found Office 365 marking emails as spam even though you have them whitelisted?
22:52 < Gencade`> I guess ban or q if you want, I can get around it with a new nick
22:52 < felda> or receiving emails that others have sent out?
22:52 < Gencade`> Seems kinda silly tho
22:52 < Gencade`> When I didn't even say anything that bad.
22:53 < precise> ...
22:53 <@cryptic1> Checkyoursix dell venue pros with win10
22:53 <@cryptic1> They have an 8 and a 10"
22:53 < DomLS3> cryptic1: back to work, after +v DomLS3
22:53 < CheckYourSix> cryptic1: Price?
22:54 <@cryptic1> Pretty cheap u can find refurbs
22:54 <@cryptic1> They were released couple years ago
22:54 < DomLS3> felda: That's not an office 365 thing, that's an outloko thing
22:54 < ebol4> fellas. it's 4:54
22:54 < CheckYourSix> Is it easy to just load win 10 on it if it doesn't come with it?
22:54 < DomLS3> 3:54 here :(
22:54 <@cryptic1> And its real win10
22:55 <@cryptic1> Yeah easy to load win10 on
22:55 < felda> DomLS3 my exchange is set to mark obvious spam with [SPAM] before going to the user but it isn't functioning properly
22:55 <@cryptic1> They originally came with win8
22:55 < DomLS3> felda: exchange or o365
22:55 < DomLS3> you said o365
22:55 < felda> Office 365 hosted exchange
22:55 <@cryptic1> I have win10 pro running on a 8" and a 10"
22:56 < felda> Exchange Online
22:56 < Gencade`> Why wasn't mal_will +q then cryptic1, she was saying things worse than me lol
22:56 < DomLS3> doesn't the spam go to their junk mail folder regardless of whether or not it's "obvious?"
22:56 < mal_will> You asked to see my "tits, bitch"
22:56 < mal_will> I shot it back, is all
22:56 < Gencade`> You did the same
22:56 < DomLS3> mal_will: show tits gd damnit
22:56 < mal_will> you did it first?
22:56 < DomLS3> tf you think this is, a sfw channel?
22:57 < mal_will> I mean, seems like that's how you want to converse
22:57 < mal_will> If you can't take it, don't start?
22:57 < DomLS3> whose tits are we arguing about
22:57 < Gencade`> I didn't think there was any bad blood
22:57 < Gencade`> I'm not angry about the conversation
22:57 < DomLS3> whose tits are we arguing about
22:57 < Gencade`> I'm just angry I've been qd for 4 days
22:57 <@cryptic1> You were being toxic
22:57 < mal_will> I didn't ask for that
22:57 < DomLS3> Gencade`: you should be qd. You a pleb
22:57 < mal_will> nor did I do it, sorry
22:57 < Gencade`> First in longer domls
22:58 < DomLS3> don't be a pleb and you don't get q
22:58 < felda> some vile autistry being orchestrated in here
22:58 < DomLS3> simple
22:58 < Gencade`> Cryptic1 and no one in here is ever toxic?
22:58 < DomLS3> crickets
22:58 < mal_will> There are levels
22:58 < felda> you should ask linuxdood what happens to toxic people >_>
22:58 < Gencade`> Even if they are, they don't get 4 day qs
22:58 < mal_will> you also doxed me Gencade`
22:58 < precise> You know what I noticed?
22:58 <@cryptic1> I have had it with the toxic bullshit here lately
22:58 < DomLS3> felda: yes. he is a prime example of what happens to toxic shit
22:58 < Gencade`> How did I do you?
22:58 < precise> This chan was fine until Gencade` got back in
22:58 < Gencade`> Dox??
22:59 < mal_will> You divulged informationsaid in other channels, by other people
22:59 < DomLS3> can't we all just get along
22:59 < mal_will> I didn't want that info divulged
22:59 < precise> DomLS3: ++
22:59 < DomLS3> make love not war
22:59 < Gencade`> I saw it in the channel mal_will
22:59 < Gencade`> Look at the logs
22:59 < DomLS3> precise: plus plussssssssss
22:59 < mal_will> in crude, not in here
22:59 < DomLS3> rekt
22:59 < precise> Thank you
22:59 < khelpw> ayyy
22:59 < DomLS3> rekt again
22:59 <@cryptic1> Keeps ban avoiding
22:59 < precise> Ban worthy offense IMO
22:59 <@Code_Man65> Yep
23:00 < felda> ~_~
23:00  * felda has definitely never ban evaded
23:00 <@cryptic1> Felda you are next ;)
23:00 < xamithan> Why was gencade OP?
23:00 < precise> felda is not as toxic
23:00 < felda> D:>
23:00 < felda> wait no
23:00 < precise> :)
23:00 < felda> why did I put a wizard hat on him
23:00 <@cryptic1> Prepare ur butts
23:00 < DomLS3> Gencade definitely not an op
23:00 < felda> lol
23:00 < DomLS3> iif
23:00 < DomLS3> oof
23:00 < felda> D:<
23:00 < ravioli> oof
23:00 < xamithan> He muted me and kicked last week
23:00 < vinrock> any you guys in the northeast gettin slammed with this storm yet?
23:00 < xamithan> He was OP
23:00 < DomLS3> ban the nick too
23:01 < DomLS3> Gencade`@*!*
23:01 < precise> This is true
23:01 < DomLS3> Gencade*!*
23:01 < vinrock> ooh
23:01 < precise> Gencade was given OP at one point
23:01 < precise> As a joke
23:01 < vinrock> what did gencade do
23:01 <@cryptic1> Yes yes i am on mobile currently
23:01 < precise> vinrock: DOX + Ban Evade
23:01 < vinrock> !!!
23:01 < xamithan> I think he was angry I've had him on ignore list for months
23:01 < DomLS3> ignoring is for weebs
23:01 < DomLS3> you should be banned next
23:01 < precise> heh
23:01 < xamithan> O.o
23:01 < vinrock> hexmonkey we're about to die over here
23:02 <@cryptic1> Now on to felda
23:02 < vinrock> 101.5 keeps saying 80mph gusts, up to 2" hail, tornado warning in north jersey
23:02 < felda> nah fam it wasn't me
23:02 < CheckYourSix> vinrock: Yeah man
23:02 < DomLS3> cryptic1 sets mode +v DomLS3
23:02 < mal_will> felda doesn't seem that bad
23:02 < mal_will> can't we keep that one?
23:02 < felda> I like this person
23:02 <@cryptic1> He is anti dns
23:02 < ravioli> felda is better than all of you
23:02 < CheckYourSix> vinrock: The rain just started here. Wind is heavy already
23:02 < felda> I am a good boy
23:02 < DomLS3> anti dns and pro pfsense
23:02 < ebol4> what's wrong with dns
23:02 < precise> felda is god tier shitposter, but not toxic.
23:02 < DomLS3> not a good combo
23:02 < mal_will> anti DNS?
23:02 < vinrock> where you at checkyoursix?
23:02 < felda> DNS is evil
23:02 < precise> DNS = Damn Nice Sneks
23:03 <@cryptic1> Felda here take this 8.8.8.8
23:03 < felda> it should be removed from the Earth
23:03 < felda> hsssssssssssssssss
23:03  * precise puts felda into his hosts file
23:03 < ebol4> FELLAS. IT'S 5:03 PM
23:03 < DomLS3> pfsense should be removed from the earth
23:03 < felda> it doth burn my skin
23:03 < mal_will> what is the alternative to DNS on a massive scale?
23:03 < ebol4> IT'S TIME
23:03 < ebol4> IT'S FINALLY TIME
23:03 < felda> Host files no doubt
23:03 < precise> mal_will: cat felda > /etc/hosts
23:03 < khelpw> Someone said snek? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WnQkz8Qu/image.png
23:03 < precise> I like esnek
23:03 < felda> I will bring the updated host file by everyone's house every friday and give them a USB drive with the host file
23:03 < mal_will> remember to drop in some food files precise
23:03 < precise> khelpw: cute fucker :)
23:03 < DomLS3> hosts file IS dns
23:03 < felda> it's the only way
23:03 < DomLS3> it's manual DNS
23:04 < ravioli> DomLS3: ssh
23:04 < precise> felda: nice
23:04 < mal_will> I like them poky noses khelpw
23:04 < DomLS3> ravioli: you not the boss of me
23:04 < ravioli> it's "your" not the boss of me
23:04 < khelpw> She's a good shovelface.
23:04 < precise> ravioli: nuuuuu
23:04 < precise> gtfo
23:04 < DomLS3> actually, it's "you're" ravioli
23:04 < precise> You're
23:04 < precise> lmao
23:04 < DomLS3> good one
23:04 < precise> lrn 2 spel
23:04 < ravioli> o i didn't know
23:04 < DomLS3> I should get +v for a week
23:04 < DomLS3> for that fuck up
23:04 < precise> Same
23:05 < precise> hahah
23:05 < precise> danke JollyRgrs
23:05 < DomLS3> Gencade just getting all kinds of rekt
23:05 < alazare619> rekt
23:05 < ravioli> precise: it's "dank"
23:05 < ravioli> er...
23:05 < ravioli> its "dank"
23:05 < mal_will> You deopped yourself?
23:05 < precise> heh
23:05 < DomLS3> he has like 7 ban entires on the ban list
23:05 < JollyRgrs> mal_will: i hit my 2 ban limit, so my @ goes on cooldown
23:05 < precise> mal_will: Do you run domain admin all the time?
23:05 < precise> ;)
23:05 < JollyRgrs> i can't afford the lootboxes to get my ban limit upped
23:05 < precise> Heh
23:05 < alazare619> so what your saying JollyRgrs
23:06  * precise sends cryptic1 some lootboxes on behalf of JollyRgrs 
23:06 < alazare619> is you blew your wad
23:06 < ravioli> unlike killdash9
23:06 < mal_will> lol neat JollyRgrs
23:06 < ravioli> i've heard killdash9 gets a discount on lootboxes
23:06 < precise> He does
23:06 < ravioli> er... "ive heard"
23:06 < corn266> Great news everyone! Your favorite internet browser Microsoft Edge is now available on iphones and android devices
23:06 < alazare619> i heard killdash9 uses viagra
23:06 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: wad? this isn't doom, why are you talking about wads?
23:06 <@Code_Man65> ravioli:  It's actually a discount on handies
23:06  * precise smacks ravioli 
23:06 <@killdash9> alazare619: your mom told you?
23:06 < mal_will> precise: red forest seems neat
23:06  * precise smacks corn266 
23:06  * ravioli smack's precise
23:06 < DomLS3> Code_Man65 gives a good handy
23:06 < precise> ravioli: ur grammar is bad
23:06 < alazare619> i found it on the nightstand
23:06 < alazare619> had to ask
23:07 < ravioli> precise: you're*
23:07 < JollyRgrs> i'm headed home (in the rain)... wish me luck
23:07 < precise> Nope
23:07 < precise> ur
23:07 < felda> wowzer DomLS3 that's a bit far
23:07 < precise> is slang
23:07 < DomLS3> ravioli: troll rule violated
23:07 <@killdash9> only way anyone could get it up around her
23:07 < precise> wtf is going on
23:07 < ravioli> oh fkn rekt
23:07 < alazare619> your not wrong
23:07 < precise> lol
23:07 < ravioli> alazare619: it's you're
23:07 < DomLS3> rong*
23:07 < JollyRgrs> REKTIFIED!
23:07 < ravioli> wait shit
23:07 < corn266> you're'st've
23:07  * precise smacks DomLS3 
23:07 < DomLS3> I can't tell who is shitposting and who is legit a dumbass anymore
23:07 < CheckYourSix> vinrock: Northern NJ
23:07 < precise> !submit ban-request corn266
23:07  * DomLS3 steps on a snek
23:08 < precise> !submit ban-request DomLS3
23:08 < precise> I'm 99% corn266 and DomLS3 are alts for Gencade
23:08 < precise> Mods, please dtn
23:08 < DomLS3> hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaa
23:08 < ravioli> everyone here is a gencade alt account besides you precise.
23:08 < corn266> ^
23:08 < precise> :O
23:08 < DomLS3> Or, maybe precise IS Gencade
23:08 <@cryptic1> DomLS3 BANT!
23:08 < DomLS3> trying to push his Gencadeness off on others
23:09 < corn266> cryptic1 it's not doxing if we all knew it
23:10 < mal_will> I think I'm not an alt
23:10 < mal_will> how can I tell?
23:10 < felda> according to linuxdood DomLS3 should be banned no doubt
23:10 < precise> ALERT
23:10 < precise> ALERT
23:10 < precise> Gencade alt detected
23:10  * precise looks at Suds_ 
23:10 < precise> Account registered 3 minutes ago
23:11 < precise> Awwww
23:11 < precise> ravioli: y u ruin the fun
23:11 < precise> lol
23:11 <@ravioli> gencade i don't hate you but freenode will kline you if you keep this up ok?
23:11 < DomLS3> felda: too bad linuxdood got hit by an airplane and no longer is part of this channel
23:11 < Suds_> I just want some justification is all ravioli
23:11 <@cryptic1> te
23:11 <@ravioli> idk it but you're just feeding them excuses to keep you bant
23:11 < DomLS3> Suds_: Justification is ban evading multiple times
23:11 <@cryptic1> that was random
23:11 < mal_will> wow
23:11 < DomLS3> If you would have just waited like 5 mins you would have probably been unbanned
23:11 < mal_will> g2g
23:12 < precise> ./popcorn.sh
23:12 < DomLS3> ./cheeseburger.php
23:12 < precise> >php
23:12 < precise> git out
23:12 < DomLS3> php is the tits
23:12 <@cryptic1> fixed
23:12 < precise> k tnx
23:13 < precise> DomLS3: It's easy, but dirty
23:13  * precise resists urge to make joke
23:13 < xtensive> ./givemeapepsifree.py
23:13 < DomLS3> Gencade: if you PM cryptic1 with "ur a bitch" he will honor your honesty and testicle sizes and unban you
23:13 < DomLS3> oof
23:13 <@ravioli> don't taunt the muted
23:14 < DomLS3> I taunted Gencade
23:14 < DomLS3> the muted is Suds
23:14 < precise> heh
23:14 < precise> Technical foul
23:14 < DomLS3> get on my level
23:14 < felda> come on now DomLS3 learn some humility
23:14 < precise> Aight, I gotta get ready for this meeting with boss
23:14 < felda> or get bant like I was
23:14 < precise> Send me some good juju
23:15 < mal_will> juju gold for precise
23:15 < precise> tx
23:15 < DomLS3> felda: humility is not a word I am framiliar with
23:15 < precise> Neither is grammar apparently
23:15 < precise> ;)
23:15 < DomLS3> ;)
23:15 < DomLS3> I thought we were still shotposting grammer stuff
23:15 < felda> get a room you two
23:15 < DomLS3> my fault
23:15 < precise> Error: Unexpected ; on line 4.
23:15 < DomLS3> in my defense, grammar != spelling
23:15 <@ravioli> i knew it
23:16 < precise> lmfao ravioli
23:16 < DomLS3> haha precise what a pleb doesn't even have auto join
23:16 < precise> I do tho
23:16 < DomLS3> slow af tho
23:16 < precise> DomLS3: It's artifically delayed because some networks don't like quick autorejoins
23:16 < DomLS3> precise: sounds like an excuse
23:16 < precise> I mean
23:16 < precise> I can change it
23:16 < precise> In my config
23:17 < precise> But I dont wanna
23:17 < DomLS3> you mean
23:17 < DomLS3> you can turn it back on
23:17 < DomLS3> because it wasn't on
23:17 < precise> I can set it to 0
23:17 < felda> that's what I have it set to :D
23:17 < DomLS3> and now you tryna save plebian face
23:17 < precise> felda: lol
23:17 < precise> DomLS3: My plebian face has nothing to do with my autojoin
23:17 < DomLS3> precise: lack of autojoin*
23:17 < precise> ktnxbye
23:18 < DomLS3> I will step on another snek
23:18 < DomLS3> don't you tempt me boi
23:18 < admiralspark> I see we're accomplishing a lot today
23:18 < ravioli> *where
23:18 < DomLS3> Today has been a good day
23:19 < admiralspark> It's Tuesday though
23:19 < DomLS3> Tuesday > Monday
23:19 < corn266> one less day till friday
23:19 < felda> are you guys sure you don't want to give me +v?
23:19 < felda> I could be a shining beacon for the community
23:19 < DomLS3> felda: the only one who deserves +v in here is m
23:19 < DomLS3> e
23:19 < felda> "This is the type of +v you should be!"
23:20 < DomLS3> I should have had it for a MONTH but nooo the +v bot rekt itself
23:21 < DomLS3> besides, anyone who thinks pfsense is good deserves an immediate permabant
23:21 < corn266> Is there anywhere that I can see the contents of a phone update? Like the changelog or something?
23:22 < DomLS3> I wonder who "bitch" is
23:22 < ServChan> yo bitch
23:22 < DomLS3> lmfao
23:22 < ServChan> sup bitch
23:22 < admiralspark> man, I'm having a bitch of a time with this script
23:22 < admiralspark> ooo
23:23 < DomLS3> my bitch ass dog shit on the floor
23:23 < corn266> just sudo it admiralspark
23:23 < admiralspark> it tags if I say bitches right?
23:23 < DomLS3> I think so
23:23 < admiralspark> corn266: nah I was just pinging bitch
23:23 < DomLS3> admiralspark: he missed the jkoe
23:23 < DomLS3> joke*
23:23 < admiralspark> :/ por corn
23:24 < admiralspark> poor* corn266 *
23:24 < corn266> please admiralspark corn266 is my father's name, just call me corn
23:24 < admiralspark> don't ever talk to me or my corn again
23:24 < bitch> yo ServChan :)
23:24 < bitch> hay admiralspark <3
23:24 < felda> dawg common
23:24 < admiralspark> sup gurl
23:24 < felda> s/common/come on
23:25 < bitch> not much
23:25 < bitch> portscanning a IP
23:25 < admiralspark> sounds like fun
23:25 < bitch> i used to work at the place that owns it.
23:25 < admiralspark> what'd the ip ever do to you?!?
23:25 < admiralspark> oh
23:26 < alazare619> someone is using my old bnc crew
23:26 < alazare619> <---was an admin for elitebnc
23:26 < bitch> Hug Robby :P
23:27 < bitch> 198.50.219.243
23:27 < ServChan> pooptastic
23:28 < ServChan> `seen cryptic1 cryptic1
23:29 <@cryptic1> seen ServChan
23:29 <@cryptic1> got em
23:29 < corn266> mods murdered layer-eight in cold blood
23:29 < ServChan> @SEEN@
23:29 < ServChan> ISEEN ISEEN
23:29 < bitch> 25, 110, 993, 995, 9100
23:30 < ServChan> bitch what up
23:30 < admiralspark> bitch, just use shodan
23:30 < admiralspark> they already did the enumeration
23:30 < xtensive> standard mail ports
23:30 < bitch> 9100 is for printer
23:30 < ServChan> as long as it's over 9000
23:30 < admiralspark> I like how this box is accepting web traffic, mail, DNS queries, and ftp
23:31 < corn266> ((honeypot))
23:31 < xtensive> tp in there as anonymous admiralspark
23:31 < xtensive> *FTP
23:31 < admiralspark> why?
23:32 < admiralspark> I'd rather not end up on a list ;)
23:32 < xtensive> because it's waiting for you
23:33 < corn266> It looks like anonymous login is disabled
23:33 < admiralspark> yeah
23:33 < xtensive> boo
23:33 < bitch> it's a zoo to be honest
23:33 < admiralspark> also I don't have the patience to set up and use a vpn
23:33 < corn266> pia
23:33 < admiralspark> just to poke an ftp site someone posted in IRC
23:33 < admiralspark> corn266: via ssh to a vps though?
23:33 < admiralspark> I'd never get that 15 minutes back
23:35 < corn266> okay then
23:36 <+NinjaStyle> I am about to try Whataburger
23:36 < DomLS3> s/what/dick
23:37 < DomLS3> ugh fuckin layer-eight
23:38 < xtensive> report back NinjaStyle
23:39 <+NinjaStyle> Seems pretty average tbh
23:39 < xtensive> I was pretty disappointed in Larkburger
23:42 < corn266> couldn't connect via regular web browser
23:44 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah idk
23:44 < Sousapro> NinjaStyle: it is pretty average but it tends to be very consistent
23:44 <+NinjaStyle> It wasn't bad or anything
23:44 < Sousapro> NinjaStyle: like 1am? tastes the same
23:44 < Sousapro> all of the times I've been there it was fresh
23:45 < Sousapro> (I've been there hundreds of times because I grew up in San Antonio lol)
23:45 < Sousapro> I still miss bill millers being all over the place
23:45 < Sousapro> imagine a bbq joint in every place a mcdonalds is in most cities
23:45 < Sousapro> it wasn't terribly good but it was fast and better than McD
23:45 <+NinjaStyle> I am staying right next to one so I guess I will have a few more chances to try it if I wanna
23:46 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah I had mcd last night
23:46 < Sousapro> bill millers?
23:46 < Sousapro> or Whataburger?
23:46 <+NinjaStyle> Whataburger
23:46 < corn266> Someone dissin Whataburger?
23:46 < Sousapro> corn266: NinjaStyle
23:46 < corn266> Must be a yankee
23:47 < xtensive> Torchy's tacos is totally overrated too speaking of TX food
23:47 < corn266> wtf is Torchy's
23:47 <@killdash9> feel free to dis Whataburger...I've lived in Texas almost 25 years. Still think they are meh.
23:47 <+NinjaStyle> We have torchys in Denver
23:47 < Sousapro> soulman's BBQ is really good
23:47 <@killdash9> xtensive: you take it back about Torchy's.
23:47 < TuxedoJack> Torchy's is crap, except for the secret menu
23:47 < TuxedoJack> The Mad Cow is fucking tasty
23:47 <+NinjaStyle> I thought it was ok as well. I just had 3 different breakfast ones when I went
23:47 <@killdash9> the Roscoe at Torchy's...god damn masterpiece
23:48 < xtensive> We got a Torchy's and I was underwhelmed TWICE just like my ex
23:48 < TuxedoJack> Papalote is better
23:48 < corn266> "Now with extra prions!"
23:48 <@killdash9> NinjaStyle: if all you had was breakfast ones you missed out
23:48 <@killdash9> Torchy's breakfast tacos are okay
23:48 < TuxedoJack> http://kut.org/post/torchys-secret-taco-menu-revealed
23:48 <+NinjaStyle> Ah, I'll have to try some others next time
23:48 < TuxedoJack> The Ace of Spades is pretty decent too
23:49 < admiralspark> xtensive: you poor bastard
23:50 <@killdash9> The Roscoe: take a tortilla, corn is better, put a waffle on top, then a fried egg, friend chicken, some bacon, and drown in maple syrup. Heaven
23:50 <+NinjaStyle> Sounds sweet af tho
23:51 <@killdash9> it's only on the menu one month a year. And I eat there a couple times a week all month long.
23:54 <+NinjaStyle> Why is Whataburger only in tx?
23:55 < PacoSinbad> As a Texan, I agree that Whataburger is meh and no one is losing anything by not having it. I think Torchy's is pretty good. I get the Trailer Park. Always trashy.
23:55 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: it's in 10 states yo
23:55 < sadbox> also what PacoSinbad said
23:55 < sadbox> It's just fast food burgers
23:55 <@killdash9> PacoSinbad: Hillbilly Trailer Park is even better
23:55 < xtensive> the trailer park wasn't bad PacoSinbad also trashy
23:56 < PacoSinbad> Hillbilly??
23:56 < bitch> Have you eaten ground beef recently? Ground beef is the result of everything outside of the cow's bones (including nerves) being ground up. Ground beef often contains prions (misfolded proteins) which due to mammalic protein metabolism act virally and will cause you to come down with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) where your brain slowly decays due to holes forming in your brain.
23:56 < xtensive> what's hillbilly killdash9 ?
23:56 <@killdash9> PacoSinbad: add bacon and chorizo
23:56 < PacoSinbad> Daaaang.... Queso still? And no lettuce?
23:56 < sadbox> bitch: do you have that in a macro?
23:56 <@killdash9> yep.
23:56 < xtensive> that is no longer a taco
23:56 < PacoSinbad> Next time... :o
23:57 < xtensive> that's like a mexican fiesta plate or something
23:57 < bitch> sadbox, copypasta
23:57 < Spr1ng> Anyone else noticed that the Content Search feature is now gone in Office 365?  YEP!  Well done Microdicks.
23:57 < xtensive> grind your own bitch
23:58 < sadbox> NinjaStyle: I think people are similarly over-enthused with in n out and five guys
23:58 < xtensive> never been to in n out, five guys is good, not life changing or anything
23:58 < sadbox> in n out is just thin shitty burgers and tiny fries that get cold in 30 seconds
23:58 < PacoSinbad> Never had five guys, but In n Out is pretty good. Not spectacular.
23:58 < xtensive> smashburger is better IMO
23:58 <@killdash9> I like In-n-Out but mostly because it reminds me of visiting my grandmother in L.A. in the 70s and going to get it.
23:58 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah actually Whataburger is a lot like more meh fiveguys
23:59 < PacoSinbad> I like the thin patties.
23:59 < xtensive> ++ PacoSinbad
23:59 < sadbox> PacoSinbad: real talk, it's basically a mcdonalds burger
23:59 < admiralspark> what about CHIK-FIL-A
23:59 < PacoSinbad> admiralspark: Also over-rated. It's good though.
23:59 <+NinjaStyle> Chik fil a  is weird good
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