--- Log opened Sat May 19 00:00:25 2018
00:11 < m4221> Who is here?
00:15 < catbeard> noone
00:16 < Nightcinder> https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/5/18/17369714/acer-g-sync-4k-hdr-monitor-preorder
00:16 < Nightcinder> ummmmmm
00:24 < Casteil> tempted to go jump in my pool that I just opened yesterday
00:24 < Casteil> was sweating my arse off when I started mowing my lawn, now it's cloudy and it has cooled off :\
00:27 < m4221> Casteil: I know that feeling
00:39 < L3gacy> taco taco
01:32 < m4221|phone> Sousapro: hey
01:59 < Nightcinder> https://i.imgur.com/9kPhRs8.jpg wew
02:48  * precise slithers into the room
02:58 < Nightcinder> hot
03:11 < precise> Nightcinder: oh hai
03:22 < Nightcinder> hi
03:29 < rpifan> hi
03:48 < xamithan> no
03:51 < rpifan> suo
03:52 < coderphive> nobody is watching livepd today?
03:53 < xamithan> I don't see gibby a round
03:56 < rpifan> nop
03:56 < rpifan> whats that
04:00 < precise> rpifan: Cops, but live, 3hr broadcasts every friday and saturday. Is on AE and Hulu, join us in ##livepd!
04:03 < MrFantastik> hey guys i have an been trying to ssh into a linux vm using googles vm instances, i entered the wrong password too many times and now im timing out from that specific IP, is there a way to ger that ip back on the whitelist?
04:04 < precise> MrFantastik: It's your VPS you set up?
04:04 < MrFantastik> yea fresh install
04:05 < xamithan> Couldn't you just use their console ?
04:05 < xamithan> Then unban yourself
04:05 < precise> xamithan: ++
04:05 < precise> MrFantastik: You should be able to directly console in from the web interface that you used to setup the VPS.
04:05 < rpifan> bad cops
04:05 < MrFantastik> i guess im wondering where that is done on the machine
04:05 < MrFantastik> i still have access to the machine
04:05 < rpifan> .lisg
04:06 < xamithan> Does it matter?  It should be in the firewall
04:06 < xamithan> Just remove it
04:07 < MrFantastik> so that would be a ufw thing?
04:07 < precise> Possibly
04:07 < MrFantastik> like a ufw allow?
04:07 < precise> Do you run any other firewall, filtering software?
04:07 < rpifan> ufw ftw
04:07 < MrFantastik> its a default install
04:07 < xamithan> default google though,  so could be any number of things
04:07 < MrFantastik> literally just installed 15 mins ago so whatever is in a regular ubuntu 18.04 lts
04:07 < precise> It's most likely actually openssh_server doing that
04:08 < MrFantastik> thats what i think too
04:08 < precise> When you say time out
04:08 < precise> What error do you get?
04:08 < MrFantastik> i ran ssh -vvv
04:08 < precise> Can you pastebin the redacted results?
04:08 < MrFantastik> ill post the output
04:08 < MrFantastik> i should check auth.log too
04:08 < precise> pls to pastebin
04:10 < MrFantastik> Okay
04:17 < MrFantastik> is gist okay? from github?
04:17 < precise> yeah
04:17 < precise> As long as it's not in the chan
04:18 < precise> :P
04:18 < precise> floods r bad
04:18 < MrFantastik> https://gist.github.com/ReedRichards/247016b1fa362d40dc2aed82c1dfb344
04:18 < MrFantastik> https://gist.github.com/ReedRichards/ec00974ad35cd47ac7e8f72d686eef2e
04:18 < MrFantastik> the first one is more informative
04:18 < MrFantastik> appears to be sshguard
04:19 < MrFantastik> and the ip is now unblocked
04:20 < precise> I've never used sshgaurd, that just looks like standard default behaviour from sshd and ssh
04:20 < precise> MrFantastik: Easy way to avoid this, edit sshd config to increase number of failed password attempts.
04:20 < precise> Good way to avoid this, setup key authentication
04:20 < MrFantastik> im fine with that and i do use key authentication normally
04:20 < precise> But its a new instance
04:21 < precise> so... :P
04:21 < precise> I get it
04:21 < MrFantastik> i was just in the proccess of setting that up and messed up my password lol
04:21 < precise> Heh
04:21 < MrFantastik> >college grad meme
04:21 < precise> So your good now?
04:22 < MrFantastik> totally
04:24 < precise> Awesome
04:24  * precise closes ticket
04:36 < MrFantastik> heh
04:36 < MrFantastik> so i was talking to a guy today
04:37 < MrFantastik> older tech guy than me, start programming in 93, and he made a comment on how cryptographic key arse "flat" today compared to the past
04:37 < MrFantastik> the way the convorsation went I didn't get a chance to ask him what he meant by that and i was wondering what he could of meant
04:39 <@killdash9> It meant he had no idea wtf he was talking about
04:40 < MrFantastik> heh
04:40 < MrFantastik> welp that explains why i was confused
04:41 <@killdash9> I've been an admin in some capacity since the 80s. Just because you've been around a while doesn't mean you know shit. I know I don't
04:43 < MrFantastik> what kind of stuff did you admin in the 80s?
04:43 < MrFantastik> i didn't know there were a lot of networks and stuff back then
04:44 <@killdash9> started out on a small school network with AT&T Unix. a 3B1 was my first Unix exposure and my first peek at the Internet.
04:45 < JollyRgrs> killdash9:
04:45 < JollyRgrs> GET YOUR ASS ON!
04:46 < JollyRgrs> please?
04:46 < JollyRgrs> lol
04:46 <@killdash9> oh, you're playing now
04:46 < JollyRgrs> with your spawn
04:46 < JollyRgrs> and mistiry
04:46 <@killdash9> he's better than me. I'd keep him on the squad.
04:47 < JollyRgrs> we need a fourth!
04:47 <@killdash9> I haven't played in nearly a month. Giant update time
04:48 < MrFantastik> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Unix_PC#Word_processors
04:48 < MrFantastik> i didn't know that microsoft word was that old either
04:49 <@killdash9> it's been around forever
04:50 < MrFantastik> no wonder they dominate the market
04:56 < JollyRgrs> i liked word perfect with the plastic insert to go over my left-side 2 column vertical F keys to know what the shortcuts were
05:08 < voidstar> I support a law firm that still uses word perfect 2002
05:23 < JollyRgrs> that happens a lot w/ law firms
05:23 < JollyRgrs> they like their forms
05:25 < MrFantastik> Law firms are just low tech period
05:41 < voidstar> yeah, I just got them to put their phone/network/server equipment on a UPS and to start incremental backups
05:55  * MikeSpears is applying for WGU finally
05:56  * MikeSpears is going to do college
06:29 < ebol4> this job posting says a requirement is "You know jQuery but know why it?s insufficient."
06:29 < ebol4> what the fuck does that mean
06:37 < JollyRgrs> means you need to use it for existing stuff... but they know it sucks and hate it
07:17 < MikeSpears> JollyRgrs: sup asshole
07:17 < JollyRgrs> MikeSpears: about to go to bed
07:17 < JollyRgrs> so not me for much longer
07:17 < JollyRgrs> u?
07:18 < MikeSpears> applied for WGU
07:18 < JollyRgrs> cool
07:43 < MadCamel> wheee
07:54 < m4221> Who is here?
07:58  * m4221 pokes JollyRgrs 
08:06 < m4221> Plo
08:06 < m4221> Damn it
08:10 < sdfgsdfg> hi sysadmins
08:11  * JollyRgrs waives almost falling asleep
08:19 <+NinjaStyle> Ay
08:33 < ebol4> fellas........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxkSeQzD14
08:36 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: wtf is to the moon?
08:36 < ebol4> YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND JOLLYRGRS
08:36 < JollyRgrs> nope
08:36 < JollyRgrs> must be some emo anime?
08:37 < ebol4> it's a short rpg-style walking simulator game
08:37 < ebol4> with a good story
08:38 < JollyRgrs> walking simulator?
08:38 < JollyRgrs> ...
08:39 < ebol4> i told you you wouldn't understand peepaw
08:39 < JollyRgrs> ebol4 wants to see an anime about some old ppl power walking around the mall in the early morning
08:40 < ebol4> you're not wrong
08:40 < JollyRgrs> ...
08:40 < JollyRgrs> i was really hoping i would be
10:10 < vader-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eks8LG72uo&feature=share
10:11 < vader-> the first scene got me
10:34 < ljc> hey so i'm playing around with/learning about serial devices
10:35 < ljc> i've attached minicom to /dev/ttyS0, but not quite sure what to expect.. do i need to physically attach a device, is that it's purpose?
15:05 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: to the Moon is pretty good actually
15:39 < Sousapro> Holy crap, I mentally agreed with cranky on a post he did
15:40 < Sousapro> I just be getting old/salty
15:40 < Sousapro> s/just/must
15:43 < m4221> Sousapro: hey
15:46 < XV8> I have the luxury of patching on my birthday. Yay.
15:47 < m4221> XV8: happy birthday
15:47 < m4221> XV8: now back to work!
15:53 < Sousapro> Wait... Windows 10 has native OpenSSH now?
15:53 < Sousapro> I haven't installed anything to the new build yet but that's awesome
15:54 < Sousapro> *patched
15:54 < Sousapro> The stock Android keyboard is doing weird things lol
15:54 < XV8> Sousapro which build?
15:54 < Sousapro> 1803
15:55 < Sousapro> You have to install the server if you need it but the client is ready to rock apparently
16:02 < rpgio> nice, only took them 20 years
16:43 < Nightcinder> woo i bought half of a fan
16:43 < Nightcinder> now i just need the fan
16:46 < AustinS> pretty excited for a fan eh? :o
16:47 < Nightcinder> AustinS: yes
16:47 < Nightcinder> my apt has no airflow lol
16:59 < FenJai> Which password manager do folks here use ?
17:05 < Nightcinder> lastpass
17:07 < jbroome> 1Password
17:16 < javi404> Hunterkll: what was the software for the cameras?
17:17 < javi404> what was the open source software for survailance camaras?
17:17 < javi404> zineminder
17:17 < javi404> got it
17:36 < FenJai> Nightcinder, jbroome why do you use those instead of keepass ?
17:37 < Nightcinder> i've just always used lastpass
17:38 < Nightcinder> keepass has tons of features i have no desire/use for
17:48 < rootsudo> Great, I have an interview w/ google as I took a shitty Sharepoint Admin/o365 architecht job
17:48 < Nightcinder> woo
17:51 < FenJai> Yaay
17:52 < AustinS> i use Lastpass, as it's convenient and supported and trust it enough
17:53 < AustinS> I use KeepassXC at work to keep like.. more offline-ish credentials saved so I can share the encrypted file with other person that needs it on the rare occasion
17:53 < AustinS> (did that because it can also store the TOTP tokens/generate the codes without having to go thru the extra hoops)
17:54 < FenJai> What hoops AustinS ?
18:08 < CheckYourSix> Holy fuck, my internet finally came back online. It's been 14 hours. I hate Optimum.
18:21 < JollyRgrs> ok, i need keyboard junky help pls
18:21 < JollyRgrs> a lot of newer keyboard, esp. mech (like ones i find at best buy) are skinnier in width
18:21 < JollyRgrs> i DO NOT WANT THAT... what term do I look for to not get those crappy skinny keys?
18:22 < CheckYourSix> Just make your own brand. Fat Finger Keyboards. $$$
18:22 < JollyRgrs> lol
18:22 < JollyRgrs> gee, thx
18:22 < Nightcinder> 'skinny keys'?
18:22 < CheckYourSix> :-P
18:22 < Nightcinder> idk, most keyboard keys feel the same in terms of width to me
18:22 < CheckYourSix> I dunno though. I haven't noticed any of them being skinny. They feel the same
18:22 < Nightcinder> my keyboard itself is smol
18:23 < JollyRgrs> https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-platinum-k95-wired-gaming-mechanical-cherry-mx-brown-switch-keyboard-with-rgb-backlighting-black/5713205.p?skuId=5713205
18:23 < Nightcinder> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/e9kuey9t/IMG_20180519_122310.jpg
18:23 < Nightcinder> but the keys are normal sized
18:23 < JollyRgrs> yes, those are normal size
18:24 < JollyRgrs> the ones i posted are skinny
18:24 < FenJai> What good domain registrars are there out there ? Atm I've got ovh, namecheap and gandi
18:24 < Nightcinder> corsair is also garbage
18:24 < JollyRgrs> FenJai: i just use namecheap
18:24 < CheckYourSix> Nightcinder: That keyboard would drive be crazy
18:24 < Nightcinder> $171 for that kb lol
18:24 < John_Wayne> FenJai, I use Google Domains.
18:24 < CheckYourSix> Nightcinder: I use a Corsair K70. Not garbage at all
18:24 < Nightcinder> it's not good
18:24 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: that's not what i'm going after, it was just an example of the skinny keys that i see on many of the keyboards
18:24 < CheckYourSix> Namecheap+++
18:24 < Nightcinder> especially for the price of $171
18:24 < John_Wayne> They have yet to price hike on renewal.
18:24 < John_Wayne> $9
18:24 < CheckYourSix> Price aside, why is it "not good"
18:25 < Nightcinder> poor build quality, shitty switches
18:25 < John_Wayne> STAY AWAY FROM MYDOMAIN.  Effers.
18:25 < JollyRgrs> FenJai: keep in mind, google domains is STILL IN BETA
18:25 < John_Wayne> I HATE MYDOMAIN.
18:25 < CheckYourSix> My keyboard uses Reds
18:25 < JollyRgrs> just FYI
18:25 < CheckYourSix> No issues with build quality
18:25 < John_Wayne> 1:1 seems like crap, too.
18:25 < Nightcinder> cherry hasn't been top dog in a long while
18:25 < CheckYourSix> Then what is?
18:25 < Nightcinder> try a kalih box switch, they're much nicer than cherry IMO
18:25 < Nightcinder> and if you hate your coworkers, get a box navy keyboard
18:26 < CheckYourSix> Lol
18:26 < JollyRgrs> oh, that corsair keyboard is prob 170 b/c it has has an aluminum frame (b/c why? who knows)
18:26 < Nightcinder> box navy is almost model m level in price
18:26 < Nightcinder> er
18:26 < Nightcinder> sound*
18:26 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: my kb is metal
18:27 < JollyRgrs> anyways, what i'm looking for is i can't find in any description/specs that shows the key width
18:27 < John_Wayne> Any fans of a non mechanical?  I mean, I like mechanical and all, but sometimes I like a membrane keyboard.  That said, I am a keyboard whore.
18:27 < CheckYourSix> Mine is metal too
18:27 < JollyRgrs> so howTF do i know which one has what aside from hopefully good angle pictures?
18:27 < Nightcinder> if you get a normal kb it'll have normal keys
18:27 < JollyRgrs> John_Wayne: i'm not really a fan of membrane, though that's all i've used aside from back in my 386 days
18:27 < Nightcinder> corsair usually can't be replaced with anything but corsair keycaps
18:28 < Nightcinder> but a normal mech can fit modern keycaps
18:28 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: i like to try b4 i buy... so i went into best buy... pretty much all mech keyboards there were skinny keys
18:28 < John_Wayne> I am currently rocking a Razer and I like the keyboard, but the software is CRAP.
18:28 < JollyRgrs> razor and other brands were skinny as well
18:28 < John_Wayne> I like to try before I buy as well.
18:28 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: microcenter and bestbuy and such all will just sell the normal corsair/razer/etc
18:29 < Nightcinder> could get a ducky, they're decent, kinda overpriced tho
18:29 < John_Wayne> I like my RK skinny.
18:29 < John_Wayne> Ducky is nice, but yes, overpriced.
18:29 < John_Wayne> DasKeyboard isn't bad.
18:29 < Nightcinder> could go balls to the wall and just get a RF
18:29 < John_Wayne> Logitech has some mechnical keyboards as well.
18:29 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/8kkcnw/rmechanicalkeyboards_what_keyboard_switches_andor/
18:30 < Nightcinder> mine's an input club nightfox with hako trues
18:31 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: thanks, but that doesn't have info about what I want to find out (key size)
18:32 < Nightcinder> Anything non corsair non razer will have a normal key layout
18:32 < Nightcinder> And normal caps
18:34 < JollyRgrs> so i want media keys, but most of these do not... or only the $200 version does. any of you use a usb media controller (or knob or something)?
18:35 < rootsudo> having the flu sucks
18:39 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: i use my amp for volume control, but a lot of the kb's are programmable
18:39 < Nightcinder> so you could add
18:40 < FenJai> ovh seems pretty good for personal hosting. .com domain, 250GB web hosting, 10x mailboxes all for £20 a year
18:40 < FenJai> ex vat
18:40 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: i want deditated wam and deditated media keys with volume knob... i could deal with vol up/down button if i had to, but prefer a knob
18:41 < bvierra> #1 thing I always hate doing, coming up with names for program
18:41 < bvierra> s
18:41 < bvierra> always such a pita
18:45 < Nightcinder> i think ducky has some with keys?
18:46 < Nightcinder> das keyboards do
18:47 < CheckYourSix> How bad is this? https://i.imgur.com/y7a9fn0.png
18:47 < CheckYourSix> I wonder what cable line is damaged
18:47 < JollyRgrs> bad
18:48 < CheckYourSix> Power and SNR are in normal ranges, but those uncorrectables...
18:48 < JollyRgrs> those 6 digit uncorrectables... and even 5 digit correcteds
18:48 < JollyRgrs> egads
18:48 < JollyRgrs> dbmv looks good for up and down, though
18:48 < CheckYourSix> I dunno if that's the cable line or something else
18:48 < JollyRgrs> i think it is like -5 to 5 for the accepted range for downstream iirc?
18:49 < CheckYourSix> Yeah. The closer to 0 the better.
18:49 < CheckYourSix> This makes me think there is water damage on a line somewhere
18:49 < JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: well, it's like downstream 22 and 23 that are really bad.  i think that's an issue at the road
18:49 < JollyRgrs> comcast?
18:49 < CheckYourSix> Optimum
18:50 < JollyRgrs> with comcast, i always ask for a comcast employee, not a contractor
18:50 < JollyRgrs> b/c if a contractor comes out, they can't do jack shit with the green box by the road
18:50 < JollyRgrs> and then you gotta wait for another tech to come out
18:51 < CheckYourSix> Optimum wants to charge $80 for a tech to come out, unless they find that it's an issue on their end.
18:51 < CheckYourSix> I bitched enough to finally get them to waive the fee
18:51 < CheckYourSix> My guess is water damage on something.
18:51 < CheckYourSix> They're coming Tuesday
18:51 < JollyRgrs> yeah, comcast tried to get my parents to pay like for 5 diff trips... they had to fix it at the pole at the end of hte street
18:52 < JollyRgrs> but they had to argue about $50 charges on their bills for a while
18:52 < JollyRgrs> https://www.daskeyboard.com/p/5q-cloud-connected-rgb-mechanical-keyboard/
18:52 < JollyRgrs> cloud connected keyboard? geez
18:52 < CheckYourSix> WTF?
18:53 < Nightcinder> i wasn't talking about THAT keyboard lol
18:53 < JollyRgrs> OMG
18:53 < JollyRgrs> https://youtu.be/unt39VpkBvg
18:53 < JollyRgrs> lol
18:53 < Nightcinder> i mean it's not the worst idea in the world
18:53 < Nightcinder> but
18:53 < Nightcinder> yeah
18:53 < Nightcinder> i wouldn't pay extra for that
18:54 < Nightcinder> t o d a y
18:54 < CheckYourSix> That video ROFL
18:55 < CheckYourSix> My keyboard is definitely not something I want cloud connected
18:56 < Nightcinder> i mean is it really worlds first
18:56 < Nightcinder> doesn't logitech do that shit?
18:56 < Nightcinder> like the discord integrations and overwolf and everything?
18:56 < CheckYourSix> No idea
18:56 < badsnappa> Evening All
18:56 < Nightcinder> for L E D's
18:56 < Nightcinder> but honestly i would never notice a single key on my keyboard blinking
18:56 < JollyRgrs> the best i see in that keyboard is when it can tell me it is raining
18:56 < Nightcinder> i don't look down
18:56 < CheckYourSix> Nightcinder: Same
18:57 < JollyRgrs> unfortunately where i live, the percent chance of rain means percent of the area that will get rained on FOR SURE... so you can't go with weather alerts... or every day it'll just say "it might rain"
18:57 < Nightcinder> 'rain is in the forecast'
18:57 < JollyRgrs> also, yeah... i'm not looking at my keys often enough
18:57 < Nightcinder> only time I look at my keys is because of the layout of this KB when I go to type \
18:57 < Nightcinder> or `
18:58 < jbroome> FenJai: i'm on a mac, and the integration with dropbox and browsers are great.  Plus the ios app they have is also great.
20:03 < catbeard> fuck salt
20:22 < Casteil> [context required]
20:44 < rhqq> evening peeps
20:52 < CheckYourSix> Do you guys have any coworkers that have to open every email as an individual window and then leave them all open? One of the managers at work is the most disorganized person. He has every spot on his desktop filled with shit he saves to his desktop and he can never find anything, so he just downloads it again from his emails or wherever. No backups of anything, no matter what I keep telling him about losing data. Always has like
20:52 < CheckYourSix> 100 things open between excel, emails, and various other programs for work. It's insane. I've never seen someone work like that. I have no idea how he gets anything done.
20:53 < rhqq> well, if it works for him
20:53 < rhqq> i need to migrate my domains off ovh
20:53 < rhqq> ovh sucks ass
20:53 < rhqq> not sure where though
20:54 < CheckYourSix> Well it doesn't really work, like I said, he can never find what he needs. He wastes so much time per day trying to find stuff or flip through email windows
20:54 < rhqq> according to his management that's sufficient
20:54 < rhqq> ;p
20:56 < CheckYourSix> He has no business being a manager or being in the job he's in. Everyone, including his subordinates, is always bitching about he screws shit up
20:58 < rhqq> well, file a complaint to his super
20:58 < rhqq> again, that's how its supposed to work
20:59 < CheckYourSix> They all know. I don't answer to him, so it's not my problem.
20:59 < rhqq> :P
21:00 < rhqq> anyway, any idea where should i move my domains to?
21:00 < rhqq> godaddy is damn expensive
21:00 < rhqq> and ovh sucks ass
21:01 < mkillebrew> Amazon acts as a registrar, don't they?
21:01 < CheckYourSix> Namecheap++
21:01 < mkillebrew> and Google
21:01 < mkillebrew> Amazon also has route53 which is stable
21:01 < rhqq> i mean, i keep my records elsewhere
21:01 < rhqq> but i need a registrar
21:02 < mkillebrew> I still use godaddy
21:02 < CheckYourSix> I use Namecheap as a registrar and Route 53 for any important domains. Anything not important just gets managed by cpanel
21:02 < rhqq> namecheap doesnt support .pl
21:03 < rhqq> amazon doesnt support .cn
21:03 < rhqq> nor .sh
21:04 < rhqq> oh, they do support .sh but not cn nor pl
21:05 < mkillebrew> you have some weird fucking domains
21:05 < rhqq> oh, godaddy doesnt support .sh :/
21:05 < rhqq> fugg
21:06 < rhqq> well .sh for shell, .pl for perl  :P
21:06 < rhqq> and cn, well... i want to expand to china
21:09 < Thedarkb-X40> Hello.
21:09 < rhqq> ehlo
21:09 < Thedarkb-X40> I'm thinking of training to become a sysadmin.
21:09 < Thedarkb-X40> What does the job involve?
21:10 < Thedarkb-X40> I have an idea mostly.
21:10 < rhqq> strong liver
21:10 < Thedarkb-X40> I'm Irish so that won't be a problem.
21:11 < rhqq> well, you've passed. take a sip and pass the bottle
21:12  * Thedarkb-X40 passes his bottle of out of date Listerine
21:14 < rhqq> ok, domains.google.com doesnt work in my current country
21:14 < rhqq> fsck
21:15 < rhqq> ok, they dont support any of my domains anyway
21:17 < Thedarkb-X40> Will I literally just be applying patches all day?
21:17 < rhqq> umm, not really
21:17 < rhqq> configuring webservers, pulling/browsing logs
21:17 < rhqq> scripting backups
21:17 < rhqq> talking to 3rd party support
21:17 < rhqq> and googling a lot
21:18 < Thedarkb-X40> So basically getting paid for what I already do at home?
21:18 < Thedarkb-X40> :P
21:18 < Thedarkb-X40> Nah, I don't backup because I have nothing worthwhile in the first place.
21:18 < rhqq> it's more of a good habit than anything
21:19 < rhqq> figuring out tiers of backup, ways you'd like things to go there and back
21:21 < BytesAndCoffee> Holy fuck I nearly had a heart attack
21:22 < rhqq> eh, so close...
21:22 < rhqq> fsck. name.com doesnt support .cn :(
21:22 < BytesAndCoffee> My computer was stuck at the windows boot screen, automatic startup repair failed
21:22 < BytesAndCoffee> Safe boot wouldn’t even load
21:23 < BytesAndCoffee> Try a normal reboot, it worked
21:23 < BytesAndCoffee> Thought I was royally screwed
21:24 < Thedarkb-X40> Ooof
21:26 < rhqq> what the fuck. all the "top 10 domain registrars" have more limited TLDs palette than ovh :/
21:26 < Thedarkb-X40> For some reason windows seems to be prone to that kind of thing.
21:27 < BytesAndCoffee> If I could afford it, I’d get a MacBook for daily driver use
21:27 < Thedarkb-X40> ThinkPad + Linux is my poison personally.
21:27 < BytesAndCoffee> Save my W541 for heavy duty only
21:27 < Thedarkb-X40> Yeah, I've seen you in ##ibmthinkpad and on bash.org apparently.
21:28 < BytesAndCoffee> The functional programming joke?
21:28 < Thedarkb-X40> If there is one it went straight over my head.
21:29 < BytesAndCoffee> Church and state
21:29 < Thedarkb-X40> Yeah, that's the one.
21:29 < Thedarkb-X40> I thought you were talking about something else.
21:30 < BytesAndCoffee> Functional programming avoids stateful operations
21:30 < BytesAndCoffee> It’s more of a data pipeline than a FSM
21:31 < BytesAndCoffee> ah fuck, antimalware service executable is running again, eating up all of my HDD’s IO
21:34 < Thedarkb-X40> I have no windows rigs at the moment.
21:37 < BytesAndCoffee> I mainly run Linux via WSL
21:38 < Thedarkb-X40> I used to just have a windows box in the corner that I'd remote into from one of my machines.
21:55 < Thedarkb-X40> I just restarted this thing because I thought pulseaudio shat the bed.
21:56 < Thedarkb-X40> But I forgot about this thing's hardware volume control.
22:03 < genr8_> everyone should have a cheap little 2 in 1 tablet/laptop
22:05 < Thedarkb-X40> ThinkPad X4xTs and X6xTs are dirt cheap nowadays.
22:05 < Thedarkb-X40> X40s are nice to use but you wouldn't want to be doing anything locally.
22:06 < Thedarkb-X40> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "artful" 17.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GHz (600MHz) • Memory: Physical: 1.2 GiB Total (791.8 MiB Free) Swap: 945.3 MiB Total (945.3 MiB Free) • Storage: 17.6 GB / 33.7 GB (16.1 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device @ Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O C
22:06 < Thedarkb-X40> ontroller • Uptime: 13m 51s
22:06 < Thedarkb-X40> This is my SSH, IRC and Reddit machine.
22:06 < Thedarkb-X40> Oh, and VNC when I had a windows box.
22:10 < BytesAndCoffee> Thedarkb-X40: https://hastebin.com/qiyalekega.txt
22:11 < genr8_> i was thinking somethin a little more modern
22:14 < Thedarkb-X40> You don't like watching the GUI elements get drawn when you alt tab :)
22:15 < BytesAndCoffee> Thedarkb-X40: ?
22:16 < Thedarkb-X40> The processor is so slow that you can see GUI elements getting drawn.
22:16 < Thedarkb-X40> and there is no hardware acceleration.
22:16 < genr8_> props for still using a beloved device but its probably time to move on
22:16 < BytesAndCoffee> oh, yours
22:16 < BytesAndCoffee> lol
22:16 < Thedarkb-X40> Nah, I have moved on.
22:17 < BytesAndCoffee> yeah
22:17 < Thedarkb-X40> This usually lives down the side of my bed as a podcast machine.
22:17 < BytesAndCoffee> mine is...almost overpowered
22:17 < genr8_> ive given up sticking to known devices and will just use any old shit, turns out when the entire machine is basically Intel, linux tends to work
22:17 < Thedarkb-X40> But I do tend to pull it out for downloading things or browsing reddit.
22:17 < Thedarkb-X40> Or SSHing into my OpenTTD servers.
22:17 < Thedarkb-X40> It can play OpenTTD quite well too.
22:18 < Thedarkb-X40> and QuakeWorld.
22:19 < Thedarkb-X40> I'm on 1mbps DSL so it takes me a few hours to download install images and the like so I just leave this on overnight or while I'm at work downloading.
22:20 < abakedapplepie> wideopenwest is a bunch of fucks
22:20 < abakedapplepie> they wont give me the intro rate
22:20 < genr8_> even something as low powered as a chromebook is valid
22:21 < Thedarkb-X40> I dislike the keyboards on most chromebooks.
22:22 < genr8_> that is a weak point
22:23 < genr8_> you just need to be able to type though
22:23 < genr8_> im using a particularly bad one. and the touchpad is worse.
22:23 < Thedarkb-X40> This hasn't got a touchpad but I don't really miss it.
22:24 < Thedarkb-X40> My other more modern ThinkPad doesn't have one either.
22:33 < rpifan> hi
22:39 < SleePy> Well.. Lets hope this doesn't suck.  Upgrader crashed during 18.04 upgrade :\
22:40 < rpifan> apt dist-upgrade
22:41 < SleePy> Yea, get a lock file.  The screen session is still there, but getting: Directory '/run/screen' must have mode 777.
22:41 < SleePy> Researching that to make sure that chmod 777 won't break things worse
22:41 < Thedarkb-X40> I was thinking of upgrading to 18.04 in the hopes that the crashing issue on my main will go away.
22:42 < Thedarkb-X40> It tends to refuse to go to sleep and then gets stuck in this weird state where the computer is fully on but the OS isn't responding.
22:42 < Thedarkb-X40> But the ethernet light is blinking
22:44 < rpifan> delete the file
22:44 < rpifan> and reboot
23:06 <@cryptic1>      delete the rpifan
23:08 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
23:32 < XV8> Ah, 4 more boxes left. Productive patching day.
23:32 < XV8> No issues so far either.
23:40 < m4221> Hello nerds
23:50 < rhqq> hah
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