--- Log opened Mon May 21 00:00:27 2018 00:04 < MillerBOSS> Browsing shit like http://wikitjerrta4qgz4.onion/ is such a huge ass rabbit hole. 00:09 < coderphive> ss it 00:44 < MillerBOSS> So I am hunting for some databases and found http://dumpedlqezarfife.onion/ Just entering in username is showing old passwords I used for gmail accounts before I used a password manager / generated passwords. One account shows 4 passwords used over time which I used hell 7-8+ years ago. I highly doubt gmail/google was hacked. 00:47 < CheckYourSix> Why are you posting ridiculous links that aren't real? 00:48 < MillerBOSS> Say what? 00:48 < MillerBOSS> How are the ridiculous? 00:48 < MillerBOSS> they8 00:49 < MillerBOSS> they* 00:50 < pcspkr> they be real if yer usin tor, yarr 00:50 < MillerBOSS> Well duh .onion 00:51 < MillerBOSS> I figured thats common knowledge here 00:54 * CheckYourSix doesn't use tor 00:54 < pcspkr> -1 hacker cred 00:54 < MillerBOSS> lol 00:58 < MillerBOSS> Well looks like a lot is here https://github.com/martinteixeira/BreachCompilation if anyone is curious 01:01 < brucevein> hey 01:01 < brucevein> any of yall work for a hosting company/colo provider? 01:01 < brucevein> im looking to colo a few boxes 01:04 < catbeard> hosting yes, colo no 01:04 < catbeard> if you need colo, you're doin too much imo 01:05 < brucevein> servers are custom built, cant use someone elses :) 01:05 < brucevein> just have a pretty big power requirement 01:05 < catbeard> so more about the servers than the OS 01:05 < brucevein> 8x xeon phi 7250s 01:05 < brucevein> they use a decent amount of power 01:05 < catbeard> si 01:18 <+NinjaStyle> \o 01:34 < CheckYourSix> What kind of work are you doing with those? 01:34 < CheckYourSix> MillerBOSS: Yeah, that database is big 01:39 < MillerBOSS> Yup 01:39 < CheckYourSix> I have it. It's 61 GB or so 01:47 < JollyRgrs> is that the one available on torrents a while back? 01:48 < JollyRgrs> i done DLed that one and grepped for all my family members' emails 01:53 < Nightcinder> #fuckvegasgoldenknights 01:58 < gavit> is there a reason why network admins keep trying to make subnets as small as possible? does broadcasting matter so much? 01:59 < JollyRgrs> gavit: it is also for security, too 01:59 < JollyRgrs> depending on how things are setup 01:59 < JollyRgrs> viruses that can spread within the subnet, etc. 01:59 < JollyRgrs> or when you go to view your network places near you or whatever 01:59 < JollyRgrs> that takes forever to populate on large subnets 02:00 < gavit> JollyRgrs: I suppose 02:00 < JollyRgrs> +. 02:00 < JollyRgrs> and honestly, i don't really deal with taht stuff... that's just off the top of my head 02:01 < gavit> my network admin doesnt want anything larger than /24. No clue why a /8 has been made though :) 02:02 < gavit> and while I agree that /24 is fine, but he keeps trying to push to /29 or something 02:03 < JollyRgrs> well, just as he pushes for 29... ask him to list reasons why you should 02:04 < catbeard> is this for RFC1918 IPs or public static 02:06 < MikeSpears> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/evkxzn/california-1st-district-congressional-debate-hacked-gay-porn lmfao 02:06 < MikeSpears> Its safe for work 02:07 < MikeSpears> No actual screenshots or anything 02:08 < binaryhermit> it might not be quite sfw 02:08 < binaryhermit> Citizens of northeast California who tuned in to an online forum broadcast got a good look at something they weren’t expecting: Several seconds of men f**kin’. 02:08 < binaryhermit> the 2 *s are redacted by me 02:16 < JollyRgrs> wow 02:25 < binaryhermit> I'm just saying if your employer is a web access member of the alt-right 02:25 < binaryhermit> aka nazi 02:25 < binaryhermit> and I'm outta here 02:28 < rpifan> well im desperate for more money 02:28 < rpifan> im trying upwork again 02:30 < catbeard> yikes 02:30 < catbeard> remoteok.io 02:31 < rpifan> have u tried that? 02:34 < catbeard> yes 02:35 < mkillebrew> alt-right is nazi now? 02:36 < rpifan> didu get a job? 02:36 < mkillebrew> I thought it was just non-mainstream conservative 02:37 < mkillebrew> people that like both money and the ability to have an abortion or smoke pot 02:39 < catbeard> freedom, security, sanity. pick two 02:40 < mkillebrew> whose sanity 02:40 < catbeard> yours 02:41 < mkillebrew> you can get that back? 02:41 < mkillebrew> My freedom grants me security, and I don't know what I can ever recover my sanity; I seem content with just picking one. 03:11 < CheckYourSix> JollyRgrs: Try this on for size - https://i.imgur.com/QUgu2Yo.png 03:11 < CheckYourSix> That's a bad cable somewhere. No doubt 03:12 < JollyRgrs> CheckYourSix: great power signal.... 03:12 < JollyRgrs> lol 03:12 < JollyRgrs> i mean, those numbers are hard to beat 03:12 < JollyRgrs> but so are your uncorrectables 03:12 < CheckYourSix> That's what I said 03:12 < CheckYourSix> Power signal is basically perfect 03:13 < CheckYourSix> I need to swap cables between the wall and the modem at least to see if that fixes anything 03:14 < CheckYourSix> But this is their cable they gave me when they installed it 1.5 years ago. It should be just fine. It's not bent up or anything either. I'll try it tomorrow morning or something. 03:19 < sideup66> did you run a cable test CheckYourSix 03:20 < CheckYourSix> sideup66: I don't have a tester 03:20 < sideup66> whats up with your cable 03:20 < CheckYourSix> No idea 03:21 < CheckYourSix> I don't wanna disconnect it and try different ones right now 03:22 < rpifan> need more moneyyy 03:23 <+NinjaStyle> steal some 03:28 <+NinjaStyle> so this channel lost drgibby and tsarbomba 03:28 <+NinjaStyle> that sucks 03:29 <@cryptic1> tsarbomba was toxic and trolling 03:29 <+NinjaStyle> i dusagree 03:29 <+NinjaStyle> disagree* 03:29 <+NinjaStyle> he was speaking his mind 03:29 <@cryptic1> you are entitled to your option even if its wrong 03:29 < brucevein> oh man 03:29 <+NinjaStyle> its not 03:29 < brucevein> that sucks 03:29 * cryptic1 shrugs 03:29 < brucevein> was it about trump? 03:30 <+NinjaStyle> we keep the most toxic ones and lose the good ones 03:30 <@cryptic1> he was warned 03:30 <@cryptic1> multiple times to stop 03:30 <@cryptic1> he made his own choice 03:31 < brucevein> cryptic1, what was he doing? 03:31 <+NinjaStyle> the way you say it, it sounds like you made hs choice 03:31 <@cryptic1> egging on a situation 03:31 <@cryptic1> yeah i made the choice to remove him 03:31 <+NinjaStyle> brucevein: he was basically defending me 03:32 < JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: if a cop asks you to stop doing something... then says "stop or consequences"... and you keep doing it... 03:32 < JollyRgrs> do you expect to not land in the back seat of a car? 03:32 <+NinjaStyle> cops act on law, not opinion 03:32 < brucevein> JollyRgrs, depends on if he legally had to stop what he was doing 03:32 <@cryptic1> listen you guys want to drag your god damn high schoolish drama from another channel in here 03:32 < brucevein> if hes free to do it, then hes free to do it :) 03:32 <@cryptic1> there are consequences 03:32 < JollyRgrs> and ops are free to ban people for doing it 03:32 < brucevein> was it free speach? 03:32 <+NinjaStyle> tsarbomba was only involved in what happened in this channel cryptic1 03:33 < CheckYourSix> cryptic1: What was the whole issue about? 03:33 < JollyRgrs> this channel isn't constitutionally protected, fyi 03:33 <@cryptic1> some bullshit about some regulars in here CheckYourSix 03:33 <@cryptic1> it got dragged in here from other channels 03:33 < brucevein> JollyRgrs, doesnt make censorship ok. not saying it happened 03:33 <+NinjaStyle> maybe the ops should ban the useless incel fucks instead if the normal people 03:33 <@cryptic1> they were told to stop 03:34 <@cryptic1> i am low tolerance for this now 03:34 < JollyRgrs> no offense to any girls/women in here... but this always seems to happen when a girl comes in and boys get stupid about it 03:34 <@cryptic1> act like morons 03:35 <+NinjaStyle> so instead of having an expectation of decency, we kick and ban and shit on people who defend women? 03:35 <+NinjaStyle> hmm 03:35 <@cryptic1> has been nice an quiet in here since a few people have left/been forced to leave 03:35 <@cryptic1> less circle jerking 03:35 <+NinjaStyle> this channel is shit now 03:35 <@cryptic1> go away then 03:35 <@cryptic1> seriously sick of the high school drama 03:36 < Atusid> rule 1: act like a decent human being 03:36 < Atusid> no more need for rules 03:37 <@cryptic1> rule 1: try not to act like children 03:38 <@cryptic1> ^ a rule thats hard to follow for a select few here 03:39 < Atusid> FINE! I'll put the finger paint away. Geeeeze. 03:39 * CheckYourSix trolls the ops 03:39 < gnupluslinux> how to... not act like children 03:40 < gnupluslinux> there's... another way to act? 03:40 <@cryptic1> troll away CheckYourSix 03:40 < gnupluslinux> i see the mods are lying again 03:40 <@cryptic1> gnupluslinux, the mods always lie 03:40 < gnupluslinux> figures, damn bots 03:42 < sideup66> gonna be time to flash my router now, soon as my lappy is done backing up, gonna have to take a blip through the house, theyll live ;) 03:43 <@cryptic1> sideup66, just standard firmware update? 03:44 < JollyRgrs> sideup66: does your ISP suffer from uptime SLA's due to router updates that you don't tell your family about? 03:51 < torquellini> Penis 03:52 * cryptic1 shrugs 03:52 < torquellini> :o 03:52 <@cryptic1> torquellini, thats less childish 03:52 < xe0n> steamed hams 03:52 <@cryptic1> than the shit i have seen lately 03:53 < torquellini> I remember the days when saying penis would get me muted 03:53 < sideup66> cryptic1: yeah, dd wrt update 03:53 < sideup66> new kong build 03:53 < torquellini> Did you finally stop displaying IRC on your work display always? 03:53 < torquellini> Bc that had always been dumb 03:53 < sideup66> and im still better than comcrap :P....60 days up currently on last build and climbing 03:53 < gnupluslinux> PEnis 03:54 < torquellini> PENis 03:54 < sideup66> cork of a pork 03:54 < gnupluslinux> PENIs 03:54 < torquellini> PENIS 03:54 < gnupluslinux> ... you win this time pasta 03:54 < xe0n> i love pasta 03:55 < torquellini> You can never outnoodle the pasta 03:55 < gnupluslinux> rms forgive me 03:55 < torquellini> Ily too xe0n 03:55 < xe0n> <3 04:01 < sideup66> JollyRgrs: wtf wat 04:03 < JollyRgrs> sideup66: instead of telling your wife that YOU caused the outtage... you say "i dunno, internet musta went out for a minute" 04:03 < sideup66> fun way to shift blame 04:03 < sideup66> though i just say, "youll live" as im cycling everything up 04:03 < JollyRgrs> lol 04:04 < JollyRgrs> my wife is a VERY fickle end-user 04:04 < JollyRgrs> she doesn't like it when i have to take stuff down... and normally she's up later than I am 04:04 < sideup66> just a power cycle i do before, incase any malware is living in any device's memory 04:04 < sideup66> itll flush all that out, then cycle up, do update 04:05 < sideup66> i try to wait til my parents go to bed usually 04:05 < sideup66> or well fam goes to bed 04:05 < JollyRgrs> oh, just parents 04:05 < sideup66> yep, joys of living with em 04:05 < JollyRgrs> wait until you have a wife that's running a raid in wow or some other RPG... 04:05 < sideup66> lol 04:05 < JollyRgrs> or when she's doing something in sea of theives 04:05 < sideup66> well if shes gaming, im next to her :D 04:06 < rpifan> got any other sites 04:06 < rpifan> for work 04:06 < rpifan> free;ance / rmeote 04:06 < rpifan> remote 04:06 < sideup66> frankly JollyRgrs the biggest issue with it now is that we ditched comcast cable for a roku 04:06 < JollyRgrs> rpifan: mancamwhores.com? 04:06 < sideup66> so if i kick that stuff out, roku goes down lol 04:06 < JollyRgrs> risky click, i've never heard of it b4, just typed it 04:06 < JollyRgrs> yeah 04:06 < sideup66> i aint clickin that shit nigga 04:07 < JollyRgrs> we do the same, got a few rokus and a fwe chromecasts and the ps3 04:07 < JollyRgrs> sideup66: that was for rpifan 04:07 < sideup66> yep 04:07 < JollyRgrs> i also have an HDHomeRun 04:07 < JollyRgrs> <3 it 04:07 < rpifan> i tried 04:07 < rpifan> it once 04:07 < sideup66> and JollyRgrs yeah, that will set off the villagers, usually it boots up so quick they dont notice if just web browsing 04:07 < rpifan> long ago 04:07 < rpifan> but them ppl are demanding 04:08 < JollyRgrs> unifi APs... i love em, but one thing that sucks is the long update time 04:08 < sideup66> i want to go unifi 04:08 < sideup66> i just heard.... that if you have multiple DO NOT MESH THEM 04:08 < JollyRgrs> it isn't that hard... i got pfsense as my router and then a UAP plugged into the switch 04:08 < sideup66> hardline the suckers and they are great 04:08 < JollyRgrs> yeah, they aren't for mesh networking... 04:09 < sideup66> right now i just have an r6300 on dd wrt 04:09 < sideup66> old dog, but gets the job done 04:09 < JollyRgrs> what router is that? netgear? 04:09 < sideup66> yep 04:09 < JollyRgrs> i went ASUS RT-N66U 04:09 < JollyRgrs> it was great for the first 13 months 04:09 < JollyRgrs> not a power cycle needed, was great 04:09 < sideup66> nah, my "fuckit" solution is to go ubnt 04:10 < JollyRgrs> but then it gave me all kinds of problems 04:10 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1 had the same issue with ASUS router 04:10 <@cryptic1> fuck asus routers 04:10 < JollyRgrs> one of our rogue branches had like 5-6 of em... same thing 04:10 < JollyRgrs> worked great for jsut over a year 04:10 < JollyRgrs> then once out of warranty, constantly needed power cycling 04:10 <@cryptic1> i now use pfsense vm in esxi with dedicated nics 04:10 < JollyRgrs> i use mine still as an AP in the front of the house... it always runs super hot 04:10 <@cryptic1> never ever have a problem 04:11 < JollyRgrs> i do the same thing but in KVM 04:11 <@cryptic1> and I use tp-link APs 04:11 <@cryptic1> would use unifi but local stores do not stock them 04:11 < JollyRgrs> i got a TP link for my parent's house 04:11 < sideup66> JollyRgrs: run them on merlin 04:11 < JollyRgrs> so far works wel 04:11 < JollyRgrs> sideup66: i do 04:11 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, runs fine 04:11 < sideup66> just stop using stock firmware 04:11 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, i never have to power cycle them 04:11 < JollyRgrs> it doesn't matter if on merlin WRT or asus WRT... still had issues 04:12 < CheckYourSix> UBNT+++++ 04:12 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: not when it dropped connection? 04:12 <@cryptic1> sideup66, I tried everything rolling back firmware, alt firmware 04:12 <@cryptic1> after a couple of years asus routers become unstable 04:12 <@cryptic1> require constant power cycles like its a stock d=link 04:12 < sideup66> weird 04:12 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: you just said you never had to power ctycle them 04:12 < JollyRgrs> or do you mean your tp links? 04:12 < sideup66> brb btw, cycling shit and flashing 04:13 <@cryptic1> not tplink they are stable as fuck 04:16 < CheckYourSix> cryptic1: Is it still winter up there in Canuckstan? 04:16 <@cryptic1> nope 04:23 < rpifan> yall 04:23 < rpifan> so 04:23 < rpifan> im gona write a web app thing to do some password reset and shit 04:23 < rpifan> but i cant picture in my head 04:23 < rpifan> how to get inputs and outputs in a website 04:23 < rpifan> like what comes to mind is using popups 04:23 < rpifan> to get the data and to output 04:24 < rpifan> but that isnt a html10.0 way of doing 04:24 < rpifan> how do i get a username / password then display the data to confirm the reset, as user admin type thing 04:24 < sideup66> oksy back 04:24 < sideup66> all done 04:24 < MadCamel> like forms and shit yo 04:24 < rpifan> did u see what i wrote 04:24 < sideup66> and wat tplink stable? 04:24 < sideup66> about what 04:25 < rpifan> but forms arent nice looking 04:25 < rpifan> i need to find a way to get intput and output data 04:25 < rpifan> as a web ui 04:25 < rpifan> for a user managment app i wanan build for work 04:25 < sideup66> and cryptic1 all done lol 04:25 * MadCamel bathtub irc 04:25 < sideup66> looks stable 04:31 < misspwn_> rpifan, keep in mind that anything you create on the job in most cases you can't keep 04:31 < rpifan> yea i know 04:31 < rpifan> but i want it for the experience 04:31 < rpifan> not the code 04:31 < rpifan> if i can make it 04:31 < rpifan> easy 04:31 < rpifan> i can repliace it later 04:31 < misspwn_> mya 04:32 < rpifan> mya? 04:32 < misspwn_> was going with mm and got crazy with it 04:32 < rpifan> lol 04:32 < rpifan> have u done any kind of internal user managment 04:32 < rpifan> i just need to picture it in my mind 04:32 < rpifan> the design 04:32 < rpifan> what it should look like etc 04:32 < rpifan> ive never had to play with that kind of thing 04:32 < rpifan> i so i cant think aobut it 04:36 < MadCamel> well if you don't want to use html forms hmm.. yeah all you can do javascript popup prompts, er.. yeah that's about it really. You could enable audio and do voice recognition? Or perhaps a button to enter data via morse code. You could write a ton of javascript to intercept keyboard events and throw them right into a div, but that'd just be emulating forms.. 04:36 < rpifan> so is forms 04:36 < rpifan> the way its mostly done then 04:37 < MadCamel> yes 04:37 < rpifan> cool, well i have a python scrip that works 04:38 < rpifan> and ive been researching pyhton bottle 04:38 < rpifan> cause i dont want the mvc crap 04:38 < rpifan> this is a simple thing 04:42 < MadCamel> yeah no need for mvc. I do have to caution that perhaps a good first project might not be something that deals with authentication and changing account credentials though. At least have someone who knows their stuff look it over when you're done :) 04:44 < rpifan> yea 04:44 < rpifan> of course 04:44 < rpifan> but im the only one on the tech support team 04:45 < rpifan> that has any epxerience in this at all what so ever 05:02 < catbeard> rpifan: whose passwords are you resetting? staff, customers, app users? 05:04 < catbeard> i'd def recommend laravel eloquent as an ORM to manage your users and attributes, maybe Sentinel as an Auth Guard 05:04 < catbeard> that's PHP tho 05:04 < catbeard> guess it depends on the app you're using 05:08 < rpifan> customer 05:08 < rpifan> well atm 05:08 < rpifan> what is happening is 05:08 < rpifan> we have a mysql db 05:08 < rpifan> with user and passwords 05:08 < rpifan> there is a swagger api built on top of that 05:08 < rpifan> we are using the swagger api 05:09 < rpifan> to rest the password for the user 05:09 < rpifan> atm i have a python scrip that automates the swagger process but my boss wants it to be user friendly 05:09 < rpifan> so i want to use something like bottle ot just have a web frontend for the input and output 05:09 < rpifan> i am working on an email reset script but i managed to get the dev ops team involved in our process as its kinda crazy 05:22 < Jay-Ros> It's deathly quiet in here? 05:23 < JollyRgrs> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 05:23 < Jay-Ros> It's periodically deathly quiet in here? 05:23 < rpifan> im always in here 05:23 < rpifan> might get to wfh 05:23 < rpifan> tommorwo 05:24 < rpifan> if the rain continues 05:24 <@cryptic1> evening 05:24 < Jay-Ros> what's a wfh? 05:24 < Jay-Ros> howdy cryptic1 05:24 * cryptic1 sets +o precise 05:24 * cryptic1 sets +o Jay-Ros 05:25 * cryptic1 sets +o rpifan 05:25 * cryptic1 sets +o JollyRgrs 05:25 * cryptic1 sets +o catbeard 05:25 < genr8_> o/ 05:25 < Jay-Ros> I get a +o? 05:25 <@cryptic1> whats up Jay-Ros 05:25 < CheckYourSix> WFH = Work From Home 05:25 < Jay-Ros> \o 05:25 * cryptic1 sets +o CheckYourSix 05:25 < Jay-Ros> ah I'm an idiot and still processing burrito goodness 05:26 * CheckYourSix /kick cryptic1 Op abuse! 05:26 <@cryptic1> :P 05:26 * cryptic1 kicks precise 05:26 * cryptic1 invites ninjastyle #reddit-sysadmin 05:26 < Jay-Ros> cryptic1 - having a seriously relaxing monday in the office 05:27 <@cryptic1> Jay-Ros, its not monday yet!!! 05:27 < Jay-Ros> ...our remote sites were all down from a telco outage for a few hours, so they couldn't email through incident reqests 05:27 <@cryptic1> Jay-Ros, you live in the future :P 05:27 < Jay-Ros> I'm from the future 05:27 <@cryptic1> Jay-Ros, are you cable? 05:27 < Jay-Ros> No, he's my third cousin 05:27 < Jay-Ros> I'm Connector. 05:29 < rpifan> hi 05:29 < rpifan> i want my op 05:29 < rpifan> work from home 05:30 * Jay-Ros sets +o to rpifam 05:30 < Jay-Ros> wait... 05:30 < Jay-Ros> damn. 05:31 < rpifan> lol 05:31 < Jay-Ros> We've got horrible weather leading up to winter... 05:31 < Jay-Ros> https://imgur.com/a/Iz1ktB8 05:32 < aName> I just want to say that I wish I had heard of mRemoteNG sooner 05:32 < aName> And that it had a plugin for AnyDesk 05:32 < Jay-Ros> aName - it has an anydesk plugin? 05:34 < rpifan> what any desk 05:34 < Jay-Ros> anydesk is better teamviewer 05:35 < rpifan> oh 05:35 < rpifan> ssh only 05:37 < Jay-Ros> yeah 05:43 < rpifan> i wish 05:44 < Jay-Ros> oh, I'm an idiot, I read 'ssl'... still burrito-ing 05:45 < Jay-Ros> anydesk is ssl. mRemote has SSH addins 05:48 < catbeard> Jay-Ros: check out Teleport 05:48 < Jay-Ros> catbeard - image processing? 05:48 < catbeard> https://gravitational.com/teleport 05:49 < Jay-Ros> oh that's cool 05:49 < Jay-Ros> The linux infra I have is all on HyperV servers, so I usually just power through from VMM consoles 05:50 < Jay-Ros> ...aside from some ubiqiti access points which I jump on with putty, which I can apparently plug into mRemoteNG 05:50 < rpifan> czarbomba 05:50 < rpifan> where ish e 05:56 < catbeard> bant 05:58 < rpifan> what...why 06:02 <@cryptic1> not anymore 06:05 < JollyRgrs> Jay-Ros: por que no win10 linux? 06:06 < Jay-Ros> I'm a powershell kind of guy JollyRgrs. I use linux through sense of touch 06:06 < catbeard> do you know about ssh because it just came out for windows natively? 06:07 < JollyRgrs> Jay-Ros: i mean for SSHing into ubnt APs 06:07 < JollyRgrs> catbeard: is it finally native? i thought that was still in teh works? 06:07 < catbeard> do you cygterm your mosh too? 06:07 < catbeard> i think it released last week iirc 06:07 < JollyRgrs> Jay-Ros: i like pwoershell, too... but powershell can't ssh ust yet 06:07 < JollyRgrs> catbeard: oh, on the preview releases? 06:07 < catbeard> ye 06:08 < Jay-Ros> JollyRgrs - I've been using putty for long enough to not consider competition methods 06:08 < JollyRgrs> https://www.howtogeek.com/336775/how-to-enable-and-use-windows-10s-built-in-ssh-commands/ 06:08 < catbeard> KiTTy > PuTTy 06:08 < JollyRgrs> no, looks like it is live arleady 06:08 < catbeard> oh snap 06:08 < JollyRgrs> i am using kitty as we speak :P 06:08 < Jay-Ros> I'm not a cat person 06:08 < catbeard> same 06:08 < JollyRgrs> Jay-Ros: i REALLY loved mobaxterm over putty... until it got screwy on me 06:08 < JollyRgrs> i could no longer click on http links when inside of a screen/tmux session 06:08 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, BANT 06:08 < JollyRgrs> otherwise, it was great 06:09 < catbeard> winscp integration is nais 06:09 <@cryptic1> mobaxterm is great 06:09 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, on the other hand is not 06:09 < nojeffrey> Anyone using Firefox's Policy Engine, apparently you can control stuff in FF/ESR v60+ with GPO now 06:10 < JollyRgrs> hmm, also openssh server available as well? 06:10 < JollyRgrs> nojeffrey: orly? 06:11 < nojeffrey> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/15/mozilla_offers_sysadmins_a_policy_engine_for_rollyourown_firefox_installs/ 06:11 < JollyRgrs> it'd be nice to officially get firefox on our approve list of software 06:11 < JollyRgrs> since we can't control the updates, it doesn't do so well 06:12 < JollyRgrs> but with GPOs now that might be possibliity 06:12 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, you have no power here 06:12 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, firefox denied 06:12 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, you shall use IE forever muAHHAHAHAHHA 06:12 < nojeffrey> JollyRgrs can you control chrome from auto updating with GPO? 06:12 < JollyRgrs> so ssh only works in powershell AS ADMIN 06:12 < JollyRgrs> nojeffrey: yeah, there's some ADMX templates for chrome 06:13 < JollyRgrs> hmm 06:13 < JollyRgrs> well, so far powershell's SSH handles weechat in tmux better than ubuntu or kali does in their WSL stuff 06:13 < JollyRgrs> still has room for improvement... but not aaas bad 06:13 < MadCamel> can always just blackhole whatever dns name it polls for updates too. 06:14 < JollyRgrs> no, we WANT it to stay updated 06:14 < JollyRgrs> security risk for those not updated 06:14 < JollyRgrs> ok, i'm impressed, windows native ssh even handled ctrl+a,d for detaching 06:14 < nojeffrey> can finally get rid of frontmotion FF 06:16 < MadCamel> I'm glad to hear windows has some useful tools. I'm in for one hell of an adjustment soon. 06:17 < MadCamel> I got hired in a linux-infrastructure position at a company that only allows fully managed windows computers on their network. I've been running linux as my workstation OS for over 20 years.. So yeah 06:18 < enix> Fuuuuuuuuck 06:18 < enix> My supplier who has been supplying my shop just said he's happy to drop ship :D 06:18 < MadCamel> nic 06:18 < enix> Fucking hell I have so much work to do tonight now haha 06:18 < Jay-Ros> your shop supper is dropping shop shipping? 06:19 <@cryptic1> enix get that work done 06:19 <@cryptic1> enix, stop slacking 06:19 < Jay-Ros> cryptic1, keep up the good work 06:19 <@cryptic1> enix, i am going to need those tps reports by tuesday 06:19 <@cryptic1> enix, going to need you to work a triple shift 06:19 <@cryptic1> Jay-Ros, always 06:20 < Jay-Ros> enix, you should take a page out of cryptic1's book 06:20 < enix> And what? Just sit on IRC waiting for someone to step out of line so I can show them how big my epeen is? 06:20 < enix> s/Just sit on IRC waiting for someone to step out of line so I can show them how big my epeen is?/be a great person 06:20 < enix> Damn spellcheck 06:21 <@cryptic1> enix, of course 06:21 <@cryptic1> thats all i do /s 06:21 < Jay-Ros> well now your shop-shipping is stopped, it's the perfect time to at least give it a go 06:21 <@cryptic1> enix, show them how big it really is 06:21 < enix> I think my new job is going to be hecticly boring, so I'll probably end up doing it anyway 06:22 < enix> cryptic1: can I please have +o to reflect the size of my penis in mangas 06:22 * cryptic1 sets mode +o enix 06:22 < enix> For the joke, I know you're contemplating adding it then removing it instantly... but you dont know if I have a script that's waiting for that do you :P 06:23 <@cryptic1> i always add 06:23 <@cryptic1> then regret immediately afterwards 06:23 < enix> After what happened with Nostalg14c dogging the channel, I can understand 06:23 < Jay-Ros> I do that with one night stands and facebook cryptic1 06:23 < enix> Who is Nostalg14c anyway.. does he even go here? 06:23 <@cryptic1> do you mean ninjastyle? 06:23 <@cryptic1> Nostalg14c, is an op 06:24 < enix> haha nah I was having a dig at Nostalg14c to see if he'd bite, but he's dropped off the face of irc 06:24 < Jay-Ros> don't you mean xe0n? 06:24 < enix> `seen Nostalg14c 06:24 < enix> .seen Nostalg14c 06:24 < enix> !seen Nostalg14c 06:24 < enix> what is it now? 06:24 <@cryptic1> he is around 06:24 <@cryptic1> just not right now 06:24 < Jay-Ros> enix - https://www.flickr.com/photos/kenzvstheworld/5201835100 06:24 < enix> Is ninja still op? 06:24 < enix> Jay-Ros: lol 06:24 < enix> DOUG JUDY MY MAAANNN 06:25 < Jay-Ros> s/Doug Judy/Horatio Velveteen 06:26 <@cryptic1> enix, he is not 06:26 < enix> Ah, it was a long, glorious reign while it lasted 06:26 < enix> Jay-Ros: I think of him when I smush 06:26 < enix> haha 06:27 < JollyRgrs> so, curious... if i have wifi PW... do people get DHCP IP even with a bad password? 06:27 < precise> Nope 06:27 < precise> Password is passed during wifi frame auth 06:27 < precise> No IP needed, MAC only 06:28 < enix> wow tbh never thought about that 06:28 < JollyRgrs> precise: so why do i see some ppl's DNS entries on my bind9 that don't have access to my wireless? 06:28 < precise> That is odd 06:28 < JollyRgrs> yeah 06:29 < JollyRgrs> b/c i thought same thing as you 06:29 < precise> Do you have a captive portal? 06:29 < JollyRgrs> they'd not get an IP without 06:29 < enix> ^ 06:29 < JollyRgrs> precise: nope 06:29 < enix> How do you know that they dont have access 06:29 < JollyRgrs> though thought about it... but i would still have a PW on it... i want to do a new network for guest access 06:29 < precise> What are the entries in the log? 06:29 < JollyRgrs> tired of wife just giving away our wifi PW to guests 06:30 < enix> LOL 06:30 < Jay-Ros> JollyRgrs - Two wifi networks 06:30 < JollyRgrs> CIA-Phone03.... Samanthas-MBP... Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge 06:31 < Jay-Ros> Oh for records of previous users... 06:31 < JollyRgrs> yeah 06:31 < JollyRgrs> but no mbp has been at my house 06:31 < JollyRgrs> much less anyone named samantha 06:31 < precise> You sure? 06:31 < JollyRgrs> no wait... 06:31 < precise> ... 06:31 < JollyRgrs> maybe one of my daughter's friend's mom's names... 06:31 < JollyRgrs> maybe 06:31 < Jay-Ros> She hot? 06:31 < JollyRgrs> but i also see same type of names coming up on viewing computers in my area in Explorer 06:32 < JollyRgrs> Jay-Ros: she be 12 06:32 < precise> The mom?!?!\ 06:32 < Jay-Ros> The mother, not the daughter 06:32 < Jay-Ros> jesus, i'm not that kind of person. 06:32 < Jay-Ros> sick, not twisted. 06:32 < JollyRgrs> eh... she's 5/10? 06:32 < JollyRgrs> maybe 6 06:32 < Jay-Ros> Any port in a storm and all that 06:32 < precise> JollyRgrs: Can you confirm that a device that has never authenticated via WiFi is in your BIND9 logs? 06:32 < JollyRgrs> precise: no 06:32 < JollyRgrs> i just looked through it 06:33 < precise> I was going to say 06:33 < JollyRgrs> the other ones i see aren't showing up in bind9 06:33 < precise> That is theoretically impossible 06:33 < precise> lol 06:33 < JollyRgrs> yeah 06:33 < JollyRgrs> i unerstand that 06:33 < JollyRgrs> that's why i was confused 06:33 < JollyRgrs> one of her friends musta also had a cia-phone03 06:33 < JollyRgrs> though... i don't really see one of her friends being that type 06:33 < precise> Mystery solved gang 06:33 * precise gets back in the snekmobile 06:34 < mal_will> Iknow it was a while back, but I was just told about it. It's not like I wanted to be asked to show someone my tits. It's not a normal thing in my life in IT. I shouldn't really have to feel bad for coming in here and having "boys get stupid about it." I don't really agree with bans or quieting. I didn't ask for that to happen. It should have been called out by an op, probably, when it happened. Also, I don't know 06:34 < mal_will> tsar, gencade, dv8or or etc outside this channel. Sorry for pulling in my high school bullshit of being here and having someone say I'm female. 06:34 < precise> JollyRgrs: Wipe the entries, and write a script to text you when a new entry appears 06:34 < mal_will> JollyRgrs: and cryptic1 06:34 < JollyRgrs> precise: eh, i'm not that concerned 06:35 < JollyRgrs> mal_will: .... rly? 06:35 < JollyRgrs> your HS BS was probaly about how you handled it 06:36 < JollyRgrs> agreed you didn't ask for them to harass you and that part wasn't your fault 06:36 < JollyRgrs> but you stooped to their level when fighting back 06:36 < precise> As opposed to...? 06:36 < mal_will> Why should I take a high road? 06:37 < mal_will> He called princess z a trans mtd 06:37 < mal_will> He said horrible shit about her 06:37 < mal_will> Mtf * 06:38 < JollyRgrs> mal_will: that doesn't make your retaliations any less childish 06:38 < mal_will> This channel isn't really anything but childish 06:38 < JollyRgrs> did they deserve it? sure... but that's not what this channel is about 06:38 < mal_will> From what I have seen 06:38 < JollyRgrs> mal_will: you are free to leave at any time, no one is keeping you here 06:38 < precise> I am 06:38 * precise tightens the knot 06:39 < mal_will> I mean I guess I could have personally tattled to say someone called me names and whatnot 06:39 < precise> :D 06:39 < precise> :d 06:39 < mal_will> That personally is my low road 06:39 < JollyRgrs> we try our best to tolerate to a degree... but at some point, we have to put down our foot on the school drama BS 06:39 < mal_will> Wow, man. 06:39 < precise> IMO, the Ops should have stepped in the minute they started discussing personal details. 06:39 < JollyRgrs> all this was spilled into here from another channel and issues you had with them from tehre 06:40 < mal_will> I just sent it back at him in his worda 06:40 < JollyRgrs> we don't want that 06:40 < mal_will> It didn't 06:40 < precise> JollyRgrs: Get with cryptic1 on that one. 06:40 < JollyRgrs> precise: i don't think an op was around at the time 06:40 < mal_will> No other channels 06:40 < precise> JollyRgrs: This did not simply spill into another channel 06:40 < mal_will> This channel only, I made that clear 06:40 < JollyRgrs> mal_will: i heard something about them doxxing you from other channels or something 06:40 < mal_will> Miller did 06:40 < JollyRgrs> i wasn't there, i only saw parts of it 06:40 < mal_will> Gencade and the rest did their own things 06:40 < mal_will> In here only, I'd never seen them before r-sa 06:41 < JollyRgrs> for what i'm concerned with, it just needs to be dropped and forgotten 06:41 < precise> As long as it doesn't become a further issue 06:41 < JollyRgrs> if you have issues in the future, and you decide to get just as nasty as them, i suggest doing it in PM 06:41 < precise> But it's freenode, I need to ask before PMing! 06:41 < JollyRgrs> and if an op isn't around, PM and let them know what was going on, we can take care of it 06:41 < precise> They'd never say yes! 06:42 < JollyRgrs> precise: is that some freenode rule? 06:42 < precise> JollyRgrs: As I did, numerous times. 06:42 < precise> JollyRgrs: IDK, always assumed so. 06:42 < JollyRgrs> also... ops aren't always 24/7 though we try to get some from diff timezones 06:42 < mal_will> I just not sure why I get lumped in with the hs bs comment 06:42 < JollyRgrs> but not everyone is up at 3am or 12pm or whenever 06:43 < JollyRgrs> mal_will: b/c you were right in the middle of it i guess 06:43 < mal_will> Not like the banner says: 06:43 < JollyRgrs> i'm not going to go through my logs to read up on what happened exactly 06:43 < precise> Isn't that your job? 06:43 < precise> As an OP? 06:43 < precise> To keep order? 06:43 < JollyRgrs> precise: my SLAs are linked to my salary 06:44 < mal_will> When asked for tit pics, don't ask to see anyones pit tits, just snitch! 06:44 < JollyRgrs> we keep order as we can 06:44 < mal_will> It's catchy though 06:45 < mal_will> Literally miller said I was female, told my husband to take care of me, then gencade and dv told me to show my tits 06:45 < JollyRgrs> pit tits? 06:45 < mal_will> Miller may have dragged some stuff in, but the rest did their own thing 06:45 < JollyRgrs> do i even wanna know what pit tits are/ 06:45 < mal_will> I asked to see gencadess pit tit, yes. 06:45 < JollyRgrs> ? 06:45 < precise> I'm not asking for this place to be moderated 24/7, but if a one user accuses another of a ban worthy offense, I feel like a mod should at least investigate 06:46 < mal_will> Is my way of making someone feel gross about asking for tit pics 06:46 < enix> Totally, off the cuff comment here, but I'd really like it if I could enter in my wholesale prices into wordpress then have it calculate the price based on markups 06:46 < JollyRgrs> precise: this issue has already been handled and bans were handed out 06:46 < JollyRgrs> precise: what more are you asking for? 06:46 < mal_will> I wanted to go with silly over stitchery 06:46 < enix> So I could enter in my suppliers catalogues, then when a customer asks for prices it just has it already there for them -.- 06:46 < precise> How long did it go on for though? 06:46 < precise> JollyRgrs: IDK man, can I have a cookie? 06:46 < enix> I could charge 20% for wholesale then 60% for for retail 06:46 < mal_will> Should be able to enix 06:46 < JollyRgrs> precise: sure... i'll mail it to you 06:46 < precise> k 06:46 < JollyRgrs> precise: i have no clue man, no clue 06:47 < mal_will> Ohh that's harder enix 06:47 < precise> Anyways 06:47 < mal_will> I misunderstood the question 06:47 < enix> yeah 06:47 < precise> Can we just learn from history and put this behind us in recent memory? 06:47 < precise> mal_will: ? 06:47 < enix> maybe if I had a plugin that did different prices for different customers for certain products 06:47 < enix> So guest & customer price is 60%, but wholesale customers are 20% 06:47 < mal_will> I meant me asking to see a pit tit is, I think, not that bad of an offense 06:48 < precise> Aight 06:48 < JollyRgrs> i agree it is not 06:48 < mal_will> It's all I did 06:48 < JollyRgrs> like i said, i can't comment on this like you can b/c i wasn't the one handling it 06:48 < precise> JollyRgrs: pit tit or gtfo 06:48 < mal_will> I mean, feels the opposite of hs B's. 06:48 < mal_will> Feels like tomfoolery at most 06:48 < precise> shenanigans? 06:49 < mal_will> A somewhat light-hearted response to something pretty gross 06:49 < enix> mal_will: did you post tits and I missed it? :( 06:49 < MadCamel> you mean that restaurant with all the things screwed to the wall? I love that place! 06:49 < JollyRgrs> precise: https://imgur.com/r/wtf/RFIVtDn (NSFW!!!) 06:49 < mal_will> I like to think I made him think on it. Maybe next time he won't solicit so freely 06:49 < catbeard> there are no women on IRC, just men and little boys 06:49 < catbeard> and boys pretending to be women 06:50 < enix> Thats my general assumption 06:50 < precise> And catbeard, gender unknown 06:50 < mal_will> Mannequins 06:50 < catbeard> precise: ly 06:50 < MadCamel> good assumption but not always true. 06:50 < enix> precise: he's clearly a cat 06:50 < enix> precise: and who the fuck can tell cat genders anyway 06:50 < catbeard> CLEARLY feline 06:50 < enix> Speaking of which, I should REALLY google how cats have sex 06:50 < catbeard> enix: they have a nutsack you know 06:50 < precise> enix: wot 06:50 < JollyRgrs> mal_will: tbh, i was not even aware if you were bant with the rest or not, i'd have to read over the logs... but no, simply responding about pit tits isn't bad 06:50 < mal_will> Cat genders seem easy to tell... 06:51 < precise> now gators 06:51 < precise> those fuckers 06:51 < enix> TIL Male cats are equipped with painful barbed penises to scrape out rival semen. 06:51 < precise> gotta penetrate an orifice under their leg 06:51 < mal_will> Thank you for saying so, I was pretty irled earlier JollyRgrs 06:51 < catbeard> penis barbs 06:51 < mal_will> Irked* 06:51 < catbeard> that'll be the next fad 06:51 < mal_will> No penetrate! 06:51 < mal_will> They're obviously boys without penetration 06:51 < mal_will> Sick 06:52 < JollyRgrs> precise: did you check my pic? 06:52 < mal_will> All Gators are boys, Crocs are females 06:52 < precise> I aint clickin that shit 06:52 < enix> ALso, that little tidbit just went to every client I'm connected to via Teamviewer 06:52 < enix> lovely. 06:52 < mal_will> Everyone knows that 06:52 < precise> mal_will: lol 06:52 < precise> liar 06:52 < catbeard> enix: AHAHAHAHAHHA 06:52 < mal_will> It's like cats and dogs 06:53 < precise> enix: hahhahahahahha 06:53 < precise> rip 06:53 < catbeard> well, now you and your clients know 06:53 < JollyRgrs> https://imgur.com/r/wtf/DRtZw2D 06:53 < enix> i'm going to look this up at home... 06:54 < precise> r3 06:54 < enix> ohhh speaking of which 06:54 < enix> Oh dw 06:54 * precise smacks JollyRgrs 06:56 < enix> Interestingly... I'm not actually sharing any connections with anyone... 06:56 < enix> Okay that's interesting and terrifying 06:56 < catbeard> does that mean they're all teamviewered into YOUR pc? 06:56 < precise> Hi enix's clients! 06:57 < catbeard> that would be terrifying 06:57 < catbeard> don't look in that fo... shit 06:57 < enix> Oh probably 06:57 < precise> enix: What's your teamviewer for? Work? 07:02 < catbeard> [popup] Corporate Usage Detected 07:02 * precise reverts to previous snapshot 07:02 < JollyRgrs> https://imgur.com/r/wtf/5Rk8YLv SAVAGE! 07:02 < enix> yeah work 07:02 < catbeard> work or "work" 07:03 < precise> JollyRgrs: why is that in /r/wtf? 07:03 < precise> wtf /r/wtf 07:04 < catbeard> wtf is anything in /r/wtf 07:04 < precise> Stupid shit 07:04 < JollyRgrs> precise: i'm not in /r/wtf? 07:04 < precise> >.com/r/wtf/ 07:04 < catbeard> imgur.com/r/wtf mirrors /r/wtf on reddit imgur posts 07:04 < precise> ^ 07:05 * precise pokes his cat 07:05 < precise> Now she's mad at me 07:06 < catbeard> now you don't get any pussy 07:06 < precise> You would know, eh? 07:06 < catbeard> i would, women expect you to treat animals with respect 07:07 < precise> >implying precise has women in his life 07:07 < catbeard> even MS-13 ... ok i'm going now 07:07 < precise> hahahahahahah 07:07 * precise cries 07:07 < catbeard> i should make up a gang 07:07 < catbeard> MS-D0S 07:08 < precise> What's your business of choice? 07:08 < catbeard> cocaine and cocaine accessories -- Hank Hill 07:09 < precise> fuckin lol 07:09 < precise> I love Monk 07:09 < precise> Asked a woman to switch seats with her father who is missing an arm 07:09 < precise> So he could get the arm rest 07:09 < precise> lol 07:17 < genr8_> shaloub 07:18 < xe0n> monk? the dude who plays the alien in MIB? 07:18 < xe0n> lol 07:19 < precise> Yeah 07:19 < precise> He's role as Monk was fuckin great 07:22 < xe0n> haha 07:22 < xe0n> hey at least he still gets a paycheck from the reruns 07:40 <+A-KO> fucking Junkrat 07:41 < aName> I hate calling in sick. 07:41 < aName> I REALLY hate calling in sick on a monday. 07:42 < aName> catbeard: Wouldn't it be Gank Gill? 07:43 < aName> Hrm, no that's not it 07:46 < aName> But yeah, I'm writing this email thinking 'I've been coughing fire all weekend and I just vomited.' but also thinking 'They're going to think I just decided to take a monday off' 07:53 < Llama052> thoughts on VSAN these days? 07:54 <+A-KO> I mean most hyperconverged infrastructures have something of that nature, just don't skimp on disks 07:55 <+A-KO> it's way too easy for people to skimp on storage 07:55 <+A-KO> don't do that 07:55 < Llama052> Yeah, I guess I don't see the benefit of it versus the pro's of SAN? 07:55 < Llama052> I see a lot of CFO's saying it's cheaper, but I can't see it. 07:55 < aName> hyperconverged sounds so buzz-wordy 07:55 < Llama052> Unless you're at a really big scale 07:55 <+A-KO> it's "we put the disks back into the server for you" 07:56 <+A-KO> except the entire pool is basically seen as high performance/etc. 07:56 < Llama052> Right, but at the cost of more complexity? 07:56 <+A-KO> I'm working on pricing out building my own cluster at home here using SMB3 and RDMA 07:56 < catbeard> Lol rdma 07:56 <+A-KO> just to fuck around with it 07:57 * catbeard throws hammer 07:57 < aName> catbeard: I had to google it to be sure it meant what I thought it meant 07:57 < aName> It just sounds incredibly painful 07:57 < Llama052> Place I just started at has about 50tb, and they're all local disks on vmware... so they've never used vmotion or any clustering. So they think they can just throw vSAN on and be good to go. 07:57 < Llama052> sigh 07:57 < Llama052> "SAN's are just too expensive" 07:58 < aName> ... isn't it like a couple grand? 07:58 < catbeard> storpool.com 07:58 < catbeard> Yw 07:58 <+A-KO> Look at Dell Equallogic if you want to use SAN, but if you do it right VSAN could work 07:58 <+A-KO> if they're willing to pony up for the licenses 07:58 < Llama052> I'm a big fan of the Nimblestorage stuff 07:58 < Llama052> assuming HPE hasn't broken it 07:59 < Llama052> Yeah, I see a benefit in having agnostic storage though 07:59 < Llama052> I guess local storage is agnostic, but the licensing cost 07:59 < catbeard> The support tho 08:00 < Llama052> the last NS support quote I got wasn't that bad 08:00 < catbeard> They're paid version well for good reason 08:00 < catbeard> Very 08:00 < Llama052> who 08:00 < catbeard> Fry_takemymoney.png 08:01 < catbeard> Storpool 08:01 <+A-KO> but personally, on small environments I'd just use vsan/storage spaces direct 08:01 <+A-KO> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/storage-spaces/storage-spaces-direct-overview 08:01 <+A-KO> ^ 08:01 < aName> catbeard: It's always fun when you're pulling your hair out on a problem and remember 'wait, we have a support contract' and you call up the guy, and he's a guy like you, except he specializes in the exact software you're having a problem with. " Oh yeah, I have a script for that - it should be patched in the next version. Hold on while I upload it to your FTP server that I already have credentials for" 08:02 < catbeard> Naw all of our requests were met with hold on we have code for that.. Sec 08:02 < enix> manager just sent an email out about 'being careful of whats in the teamviewer clipboard' 08:03 < catbeard> They'll custom code stuff for your platform too 08:04 < plop> morn 08:08 < xe0n> enix: im not too far off from ripping that trash from the environment 08:08 < xe0n> screenconnect is in UAT atm 08:11 < aName> catbeard: While that's kind of neat, it's kind of terrifying, too - there's a benefit to running a stock environment. 08:11 < aName> It's well understood, well studied, you know? 08:11 < catbeard> Battle tested 08:11 < catbeard> As is their work 08:12 < new_student> There is also showmypc 08:12 < catbeard> There's always WebDAV 08:13 < aName> enix: TeamViewer is compromised as fuck these days. I don't trust it. 08:14 < aName> Semi-related, I'm about to fork UltraVNC and disable the fucking clipboard on it and push it to all the cube PCs 08:15 < aName> I'll remote into someone's machine to fix some issue they called in about, and forget to close the VNC window and all of a sudden our clipboards are intermingled - that shit could have gotten me into trouble a few times 08:15 < plop> intermingled. love it 08:16 < aName> I remember noticing it when I was working in the cubes doing tech support 08:17 < xe0n> aName: kaseya has a shared clipboaard like that, got in the way all of the time 08:17 < new_student> pardon me, what does the term 'cube' mean ? 08:17 < aName> new_student: Cubicle 08:18 < aName> in this context, "push it to the PCs of the rank and file employees" 08:18 < aName> We use Ultra VNC for internal remote support because it's free and works well enough 08:18 < new_student> never worked at a place with cubicles 08:19 < aName> new_student: Lucky you 08:19 < aName> Better than an 'open concept' office though, I suppose. 08:19 < aName> Really I just want my own room where no one bothers me 08:19 < Llama052> right 08:19 < new_student> productivity++ 08:20 < aName> My boss asked me why I'm so productive when I work from home - I told him it's because there are fewer distractions demanding my attention. 08:21 < aName> It's the 'demand' bit that's important 08:21 < Llama052> Right 08:21 < aName> Yeah, I might have video games and netflix here 08:21 < aName> But I can ignore them 08:21 < Llama052> It's easier to get in focus 08:22 < aName> Were it up to him, we'd all work from home 08:22 < Llama052> Anyone use any open source SDN solutions for networking 08:22 < aName> But the biggest boss insists on in-house, on-site IT 08:23 < xe0n> i like coming into the office, wfh is ok every now and then, but i couldn't do it every day 08:23 < aName> Maybe he'd settle for tuesdays and thursdays lol 08:23 < xe0n> i like coming into socialise lol 08:23 < aName> xe0n: I don't 08:23 < aName> xe0n: It's better since I got into IT - there tends to be a lot of overlapping interest. 08:23 < aName> xe0n: But I'm much more comfortable and productive at home in my PJs lol 08:24 < xe0n> whatever works for you :), but yeah im a social butterfly so i enjoy coming in 08:25 < xe0n> plus i live 10min from the office, its not too hard to leave early and finish someting at home if i need to 08:25 < new_student> nice short walk. I envy you 08:25 < xe0n> and if i stayed at home, i'd just smoke all day lol 08:28 < aName> xe0n: The commute is a big part of my desire to WFH 08:28 < aName> It's not TOO bad at about 35 minutes each way 08:30 < aName> But like, the getting up, brushing of hair, of teeth, shaving, getting dressed, going outside, re-locking the door... walking to the bus stop, taking the bus... vs, roll out of bed at 8:59:43 and move four feet to my desk and fire up RDP. 08:31 < aName> I'd take a 10% paycut to not have to do all that 08:33 < aName> I wish there was like, just a checkbox I could click to mark myself sick for the day 08:33 < xe0n> loll 08:33 < aName> Instead I'm agonizing over this explanation of how I got sick, what my symptoms are, please don't think I'm full of shit 08:33 < xe0n> how old are you? 08:33 < aName> 33 08:33 < aName> I've been with the company for five years 08:34 < xe0n> you're 33 and complaining you have to shave, and lock a door? haha 08:34 < aName> Not really complaining, per se 08:35 < aName> Just like, having to get up early to make myself presentable and deal with people when I'm half awake so I can be on time, vs just... already being there. 08:35 < aName> I belabored the point for emphasis. 08:35 < aName> I could have given you my whole morning routine, but I figured I got the message across. 08:37 < plop> morning again 08:37 < aName> new_student: When I first started with this company, I lived a ten minute bicycle ride from the office - it was a satellite office with hardly anyone at it. I miss it. 08:45 < xe0n> it's all good dude haha 08:48 < enix> aName: that is fucking awesome 08:50 < aName> enix: When they closed that office, I nearly quit - I was spending three hours a day commuting to make twelve bucks an hour. 08:50 < aName> enix: But I got promoted from 'you do tech support for grandma' to the internal IT team, which pays a fair bit more. 08:50 < aName> And ended up moving closer to the office in a place that costs half of my previous rent 08:51 < aName> But it's not as close as I was to that satelite office 08:51 < aName> It was so nice. Dimly lit, but not too dimly lit - was me and four other guys. And there was a food court on the floor below us 08:52 < aName> The people at the main office used to get mad at us for having the lights low because the cameras didn't work well if it was dark, but not dark enough to flip the IR on 08:53 < catbeard> am i the only one here 08:53 < catbeard> https://i.imgur.com/kA2iC0H.png 08:53 < aName> Not that there was anything to see - I did once get written up for throwing a stress ball at an annoying coworker 08:53 < scwizard> FUCK YOU AWS AND YOUR SHITTY INDIAN SUPPORT TEAM THAT REPLIES AT 2AM AFTER HAVING COMPLETELY MISREAD MY QUESTION 08:53 < scwizard> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 08:53 < xe0n> thank you, come again 08:53 < scwizard> lol 08:53 < enix> hahaha sounds like you had a good thing going 08:53 < new_student> if you are remote and have to do a video conf with your work mates, wouldn't that require you to: [brushing of hair, of teeth, shaving, getting dressed] 08:53 < enix> scwizard: HAHAHAHA pay for the ultra premium support then :P 08:53 < xe0n> aName: country? 08:53 < aName> xe0n: US 08:54 < xe0n> as if you wouldn't brush your teeth anyway :P 08:54 < scwizard> enix: the one that's 15k per month? 08:54 < scwizard> hahahahahahahahaha 08:54 < scwizard> no 08:54 < aName> I remember they brought me into the HR office like 'Did you throw anything at Bob??' 'Well... yeah... a two ounce foam ball' 08:54 < aName> 'Did you mean to hurt him?' 08:54 < xe0n> its just as good as tpg calling me today "yeah we can see the last time your broadband was disconnected was 5 hrs ago, it looks fine to us" 08:54 < xe0n> i'm like ummm "broadband" lol 08:54 < aName> I laughed. If I meant to hurt him, he'd be hurt. 08:54 < catbeard> am i the only one getting HSTS errors visiting www.cisco.com - https://i.imgur.com/kA2iC0H.png 08:55 < aName> xe0n: The problem there is that they're looking at the last event and not the trend 08:55 < scwizard> "Greetings from AWS Premium Support. My name is Mayank and I will be assisting you on this case today." <- ok yay an indian just what I was hoping for /s 08:55 < aName> xe0n: I hate it when people do that 08:55 < scwizard> "Apologies for the delayed response." <- yeah 10 days is pretty different from 24 hours tbh 08:55 < xe0n> aName: yeah lol, stupid l1 support 08:55 < aName> xe0n: Like, yeah, it's been good for five hours, but it goes down like twice a day 08:55 < scwizard> "I understand you are unable to change the Launch Configuration (LC) for the auto scaling group (ASG) "paul-test-group"." <- NO I'M TRYING TO CHANGE THE LAUNCH TEMPLATE WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM A LAUNCH CONFIGURATION DID YOU READ THE WORDS I TYPED 08:56 < xe0n> the best ne was yesterday 08:56 < xe0n> "we see it's been up for 20 hrs" 08:56 < xe0n> "yeah, since 20 hrs i called you and you told me to reboot the modem" 08:56 < scwizard> " I believe you have deleted the other two LC "paul-template-test" and "paul-template-test-two"." <- NO I DIDN'T THEY'RE RIGHT FUCKING THERE ARE YOU BLIND 08:56 < new_student> lol 08:56 < aName> xe0n: I really wish we had a shiboleet 08:56 < xe0n> or how my connection has gone from 50mbit to 10mbit. only 1/5 of the speed, it's fine!!! :) 08:56 < xe0n> haha 08:56 < aName> xe0n: I think I might put one into our IVR 08:56 < aName> xe0n: Have it direct the call to me lol 08:57 < scwizard> Was this response helpful? Click here to rate: Poor 08:57 < scwizard> one star for you 08:57 < aName> scwizard: pwned 08:57 < xe0n> it's ok, i just wont pay the bill :) 08:57 < xe0n> i didnt pay for 4 months last time 08:57 < scwizard> they can view my account enouygh to see the launch configuraiton we're using in prod but 08:58 < aName> xe0n: Yeah... I really want to start a community ISP 08:58 < aName> xe0n: Everyone tells me I don't 08:58 < aName> And they're probably right 08:58 < scwizard> apparently they have no idea what the autoscaling group i referened in the ticket is attached to ??? 08:58 < aName> But ugh 08:58 < aName> Can I just get some un-fucked-with internet access? 08:58 < catbeard> ah umbrella 08:59 < catbeard> https://deployment-umbrella.readme.io/docs/rebrand-cisco-certificate-import-information/ 08:59 < scwizard> i swear how does level 1 support like, put their pants on and such 08:59 * scwizard isn't going to get a good night's sleep with this bullshit 08:59 < aName> scwizard: I worked as a L1... and then as an L2, and I'm not sure of the answer for a lot of them 08:59 < scwizard> i should atl east put this one my timesheet 09:00 < aName> scwizard: There's a lot of cargo cult sympathetic magical thinking going on 09:00 < scwizard> i imagine they put their leg in one hole but then the pants don't go on all the way 09:00 < scwizard> so they take them off and put their leg in the other hole 09:00 < aName> scwizard: Most of them have no idea what any of it does 09:00 < scwizard> and that doesn't work either 09:00 < scwizard> so they try puting their arm through it 09:00 < aName> scwizard: They're just better-than-usual at google 09:01 < aName> And I mean, I'm not some shining paragon of knowledge myself - but I have some idea how all the gears fit together and why lol 09:01 < aName> And somehow - we had trouble hiring even at this modest level of technical ability 09:01 < aName> One guy didn't show up for three days, no call, no show 09:02 < xe0n> loll 09:02 < aName> Came in and said, with a straight face "Sorry I was on a cocaine bender" 09:02 < xe0n> went awol 09:02 < xe0n> LOL!!! 09:02 < xe0n> i would've asked for a share 09:02 < aName> ... we didn't fire him for like three months because we needed a minimum staffing level for our contract 09:03 < aName> I told them that if they'd let me make job offers to people I talk to on the internet I could have a full roster in a week 09:03 < catbeard> i'd at least call and say i was on a bender 09:03 < aName> But I guess I'm not allowed to do that 09:04 < aName> xe0n: I'm not really partial to dopamergenics. 09:04 < new_student> is googleing 'what is cocaine bender' nsfw ? 09:04 < scwizard> aName: so when are you starting a MSP lolol 09:05 < scwizard> (it's a joke) 09:05 < aName> scwizard: Dude, I barely know where to start, but I guess it's a bit of a calling 09:05 < scwizard> new_student: it means being consistently high on drugs to the point where you can't sleep or function normally 09:06 < scwizard> aName: from my limited understanding, a lot of things that seem doable, such as staffing, turn into nightmares once you introduce a budget 09:06 < scwizard> that's the gist of why i don't like to judge mangement too harshly, they're cursed with having to know all the financial stats 09:07 < aName> scwizard: For sure, but it was an hourly grunt position 09:07 < aName> scwizard: Cleaning malware from grandma's PC 09:07 < aName> All I really needed to know was when to stop 09:07 < catbeard> aka run Tronscript and play LoL 09:08 < aName> Tron didn't exist then 09:08 < aName> I'd written something very similar for my own use though 09:08 < catbeard> same 09:08 < aName> I didn't put it out there because I figured it was sort of in grey legal territory and no one would want it anyway 09:09 < aName> Mostly I just liked being on the leaderboard for tickets closed while actually spending all day on reddit 09:09 < scwizard> ok let's attempt to sleep 09:09 < catbeard> let's ddos scwizard 09:09 < aName> lol 09:09 < catbeard> and interrupt his spotify muahahaha 09:10 < aName> I would sleep but I keep coughing. >.< 09:10 < catbeard> *puff* -coughs- same 09:10 < aName> lol 09:10 < new_student> stop smoking 09:10 < catbeard> no 09:10 < aName> I wish - I'd probably die if I tried that right now 09:11 < aName> Like, air is a bit tricky right now, much less smoke lol 09:17 < aName> I should lay down but I'm afraid if I do the fluid will settle and I'll start coughing again. I suppose at some point I have to though 09:18 * enix is looking for some fucks to give at work 09:18 * enix is all out. 09:18 < nohusuro> aName: sleep upside down 09:19 * enix has not had any fucks in stock since he put his notice in. 09:19 < nohusuro> drain the fluid out your nose 09:21 < enix> anyway TR4 vs 2066 is really hurting me right now 09:21 < enix> every ounce of me wants to splurge on a TR4 mobo/cpu then skimp on everything else 09:22 < enix> But I dont know if I can justify it. 2066 will cost me less now but more later, and from everything I've read, the TR4 will perform better for rendering videos 09:22 < enix> which is something I do and will be doing more of soon 09:22 < enix> I shoot photos/videos and edit them in adobe suite, so multithreaded performance is as important as in-game 10:30 < genr8_> enix: adobe multi threading is horrible, sometimes you do better on an 8700k 10:31 < genr8_> what im waiting for is second hand threadrippers 10:31 < genr8_> on the cheap 10:31 < genr8_> but that won't be for a while 10:45 < plop> few cores + high ghz vs lots of cores + low ghz 11:25 < hlavender> Hey, can anyone recommend me a CE router for an MPLS circuit? 11:27 < plop> nope. there is no such website as: mstsc /admin 11:27 < plop> fucking monday... 11:45 <+A-KO> god I fucking hate our JIRA guys 11:52 < new_student> JIRA is too complicated for my simple mind 11:53 < new_student> Click on edit on one task and a gazzilion fields pop up 11:54 <+A-KO> So basically, at some point or another JIRA was configured to pull from multiple domains of ours. It no longer is configured that way. JIRA won't traverse an AD trust in order to pull group memberships 11:54 <+A-KO> so the Atlassian guys are like "solve this" 11:54 <+A-KO> I'm like "I can't 11:54 <+A-KO> " 11:54 <+A-KO> "Reconfigure your JIRA instance to pull from the multiple domains" 11:55 < new_student> lol @ 'solve this' when they are the ones who have to 11:55 <+A-KO> JIRA doesn't like the global catalog apparently 11:55 <+A-KO> This is a known issue with Atlassian 11:55 <+A-KO> https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CWD-2978?_ga=2.188999400.2121429996.1526896379-481850681.1511847594 11:56 <+A-KO> ^ Here's a feature request for Atlassian Crowd to do it 11:56 < new_student> 6 year old 11:56 < new_student> Very low priority 11:56 <+A-KO> yep 11:57 <+A-KO> Because the answer is to configure another user directory in JIRA, where it pulls users from the other domain simultaneously 11:57 <+A-KO> JIRA has support for that 11:57 <+A-KO> (so do all of these products) 11:57 <+A-KO> Again, not something *me*, as the AD Administrator can fix 11:57 <+A-KO> I put the ticket back onto them 11:57 < new_student> The ticket ownership will play ping pong now 11:57 <+A-KO> idgaf I can't fix this 11:57 <+A-KO> they're like "it's an AD problem" 11:58 <+A-KO> it's nto an AD problem 11:58 <+A-KO> I can't fix your app 11:58 <+A-KO> If you run queries against AD using AD tools, everything works. 11:59 <+A-KO> either fix requires work on their part. One more complicated than the other. 11:59 <+A-KO> I *can* fix it in AD, by making the users members of groups in the domain JIRA is syncing from. But to make THAT work, they would have to go into JIRA and modify ALL permissions and spaces with the new groups. AND THEN tell the users how to work with the new groups to ensure access to shit. 12:00 <+A-KO> *OR* the other fix, is to simply add another fucking user directory in JIRA 12:00 <+A-KO> WHICH ONE IS THE CORRECT PATH TO TAKE? 12:00 <+A-KO> hmmmmm, I wonder 12:01 <+A-KO> it's DEFINITELY NOT traversing all the groups for which they're members, re-creating those groups in the JIRA-configured domain, re-adding all of the members, then forcefully trying to fix JIRA with the new groups, AND THEN telling users to use the new ones. 12:01 <+A-KO> that's all around a shit show 12:01 <+A-KO> the simple answer is to just re-add the other domain as a valid user directory 12:02 <+A-KO> fucking shit annoys the fuck out of me 12:02 <+A-KO> They're just trying to shirk the responsibility on this one 12:02 <+A-KO> I don't play that game 12:03 <+A-KO> You have two options. I'm cool with either one. Either one requires work on their part 12:03 <+A-KO> not mine 12:03 <+A-KO> I can't magic this away 12:03 <+A-KO> I have an idea 12:06 < ktechmidas> Ah Atlassian 12:07 < ktechmidas> not a huge fan 12:08 < ktechmidas> I do like confluence... but there are better ones out there 12:09 <+A-KO> boom 12:10 <+A-KO> I just scheduled a meeting 12:10 <+A-KO> nobody can say I'm not helping :D 12:10 <+A-KO> meeting scheduled to sit down and dig into the options here 12:10 <+A-KO> it's 3:10AM here 12:10 <+A-KO> fuck thse guys 12:10 <+A-KO> they're throwing my team under the bus to other teams 12:10 <+A-KO> fuuuuuuuuuuuuck that shit 12:12 < CheckYourSix> A-KO: That's when you write up an email and copy the distribution list for anyone they've reached out to, including managers, and fucking burn everyone 12:12 <+A-KO> CheckYourSix: I threw together a meeting, and included my manager in the meeting. 12:12 <+A-KO> I'm not letting them get away with this one 12:12 <+A-KO> fuck that noise 12:12 < CheckYourSix> Did you copy their manager too? 12:12 <+A-KO> The problem is they're blowing smoke to everyone as to what the problem is 12:13 <+A-KO> Not yet--that dude is.....we'll just say, special... 12:13 < CheckYourSix> That makes me think of something. When is it appropriate to push the nuclear button and go full scorched earth approach? 12:14 <+A-KO> I'm not pulling complete nuclear yet--but I do feel like it's one-sided in the approach here 12:14 <+A-KO> considering the fucking USER responded to the ticket saying how they've been here "9 years and see issues tossed back and forth between IT groups" 12:14 <+A-KO> since these fucks won't "own the issue", I will. I'll own it. but they're doing work. 12:14 <+A-KO> I don't play this game 12:14 < CheckYourSix> All megacorps just point fingers and play ping pong with tickets 12:15 <+A-KO> I'll own the issue, and I'll make sure we drive the resolution. But it's not a football you're tossing my way you fucks when you should fix it. 12:15 <+A-KO> I'll organize the meetings, get everyone together, and we'll walk out of that meeting with you guys doing the work anyway. 12:15 <+A-KO> And then all of this blowing smoke bullshit back and forth, you can kiss my ass. 12:15 <+A-KO> And just show them how they wasted everyone's fucking time by not owning the problem 12:15 <+A-KO> I'm good at this game 12:16 <+A-KO> This is a game they aren't going to win 12:16 < new_student> A-KO is the next deadpool 12:16 <+A-KO> All management wants is for someone to own the isuse and see its resolution. So all they're going to do with all their bullshit is make themselves look bad, and make me look good. 12:16 <+A-KO> So I'm cool with this 12:16 <+A-KO> if this is the game they want to play 12:16 <+A-KO> I'll play it 12:16 < ktechmidas> http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Deadpool-2016/Issue-20?id=92339 12:17 < CheckYourSix> I had a critical outage ticket play ping pong for 29 hours until I copied the GLOBAL distribution list for the Skype For Business team and was like "29 hours for a critical outage... WTF?!?" Obviously in a little more professional manner, but you get the idea. Team lead for the whole US picked it up in 3 minutes and was pissed that it sat there for so long. It was fixed in 35 minutes, only 3 minutes of that being actual work. The 12:17 < CheckYourSix> rest was just waiting for someone to be free. 12:17 < ktechmidas> my favourite deadpool comic :P 12:18 < CheckYourSix> A-KO: Tons of people do that now. On every type of thing. Just point fingers. The reason people do it? Nobody gets burned. If I was the manager and my team did some shit like that? Someone would be getting an ass chewing and a half. 12:18 <+A-KO> CheckYourSix: You ever know how some people are just so good at manipulating information? Basically talking in circles until everyone around just accepts what they're saying anyway? It's hard to describe this one. But imagine a person coming to you and saying "oh I'm not coming to you for X", and then they talk for like 45 minutes, and then finally "X" comes out, after they've snagged 12:18 <+A-KO> you in to listen to them for 45 minutes. 12:19 < CheckYourSix> Ugh fuck those guys 12:19 <+A-KO> That's what this guy does 12:19 < CheckYourSix> I don't let them go on very long. 12:19 <+A-KO> I do because of professional courtesy, but I get tired of it. 12:19 < CheckYourSix> I don't have time for that. I cut them off and tell them to spit it out 12:20 <+A-KO> This guy literally came over last week because we implemented some security changes that prevented him from doing something we told him he shouldn't be doing right now anyway 12:21 <+A-KO> We're standing up a new application instance for them, and security has asked us to lock it down in specific ways. So we've got LBs, host-based FW rules, the whole shebang. At least for some temporary testing of other components, we had things pointed in a way to work around the "proper pathways" for its final production state. But we implemented firewall rules which hard lock it down 12:21 <+A-KO> to the production state, for which isn't completely ready yet (we're working out some bugs) 12:21 <+A-KO> HOWEVER, THIS MOTHERFUCKER STARTED DEMOING THE GOD DAMN THING TO OTHER TEAMS 12:21 < new_student> they always do 12:21 <+A-KO> and then comes over and gives us a bitch fest that he can't do the explicit thing we told him not to do 12:22 <+A-KO> and we're like "Sorry, we can't fix that. We've moved beyond testing the components you needed to test, and now we're working on getting it production worthy." 12:22 <+A-KO> right now the whole stack is locked down via firewalls to the IT subnets, so when he went to another building to try and demo it it didn't work. 12:22 <+A-KO> WELL YES, NO SHIT 12:23 <+A-KO> IT'S NOT PRODUCTION YET 12:23 < new_student> But it was supposed to be PoC ... 12:23 < CheckYourSix> ... How does someone like that not get fired? I really don't get why shitty people keep their jobs for so long. 12:24 <+A-KO> PRETTY MUCH. Essentially, he was using it in a way that was explicitly not decided on. But in meetings *not with IT folks*, he said very different things about delivery. And only gets away with it because he talks in circles about what his needs and expectations are. 12:25 <+A-KO> To non-IT folks, he's all like "oh yeah I need this but IT won't deliver" and then comes to IT and goes "oh no that thing you said is totally fine I don't need it for that thing." 12:25 <+A-KO> and then goes to other people and is like "yeah I need it up right now for that thing" 12:25 <+A-KO> fuck you dude, fuck you. 12:25 < CheckYourSix> If I was his manager, I'd set him straight and give him one shot. Fuck up again? Bye. 12:25 <+A-KO> I refuse to have any more water cooler type help convos with this guy. Everything will be meetings. Everything will be logged. 12:25 <+A-KO> Everything will be tracked 12:25 <+A-KO> That's the problem with a lot of the IT folks here 12:25 <+A-KO> they want to be helpful, want to give people the benefit of the doubt 12:25 < CheckYourSix> Don't have time for people like that stirring shit up 12:26 <+A-KO> The problem? Company culture dictates you give people the benefit of the doubt. 12:26 <+A-KO> I've been in IT too fucking long for that nonsense 12:26 <+A-KO> I wasn't born yesterday. 12:26 < ihre> so is today an official day off in the US ? 'the day after pentecost'? 12:26 <+A-KO> next week 12:26 <+A-KO> today is not an off day in the US 12:26 < CheckYourSix> ihre: No 12:26 <+A-KO> next Monday is 12:26 < CheckYourSix> ^ 12:27 <+A-KO> CheckYourSix: I'm sure you know the EXACT type of person I'm talking about. 12:27 <+A-KO> I'm sure you've worked with 'em before. 12:27 <+A-KO> lol 12:27 <+A-KO> The difference is I don't play the football game. If you want to throw something my way, I will own that shit and drive it into the ground. 12:27 < CheckYourSix> Oh I do. Our facility manager is like that. I can't stand that fucker. 12:27 < ihre> its a public holiday in the netherlands today, was sitting outside in the sun, then got a msg from my client asking about a meeting and some other shit today, weird predicament 12:28 < new_student> wth does a facility manager do? 12:28 <+A-KO> CheckYourSix: Our security guys are like that, too. Amusingly. I also don't play it with them. Last week they tried to move the goal post on something transparently through a meeting verbally. 12:28 < ihre> make sure there are enough cans in the drink dispenser 12:28 <+A-KO> and I'm like "hold the fuck up now." 12:28 < ihre> or toilet paper is stocked 12:28 < CheckYourSix> Maintenance/repairs of the building, grounds, etc... tons of shit. Outsource and manage contractors mainly 12:28 < ihre> 'manage the facilities' 12:29 <+A-KO> I don't play moving the goalpost shit, either. 12:29 < new_student> they are given computers too? 12:29 <+A-KO> yes 12:29 < CheckYourSix> new_student: Yup 12:29 <+A-KO> everyone's job is done with computers 12:29 < CheckYourSix> Every employee in the building has a laptop 12:30 < CheckYourSix> How can anyone, except maybe factory workers and other laborers, work without a computer in 2018? 12:30 < new_student> The best way to be a non IT dept person is to always befriend at least one of the IT guys 12:30 < ihre> meh, the if the only reason for it is 'better treatment by it', gtfo :P 12:31 < new_student> No, one has to help them too. 12:31 < ihre> that isnt the point, work done by an IT helpdesk or w/e is FIFO anyways 12:32 < new_student> I sometimes help them and treat them nicely. I get same thing in return 12:34 < ihre> everybody contacting IT requires help, i dont think preferential treatment should be part of it 13:57 < Casteil> damn 13:57 < Casteil> fucking hate when a specific feature gets requested then I look back a month or two after implementation and it's totally unused 13:58 < plop> but that's how normally goes 14:00 < Casteil> I feel like a lot of this stems from a sort of "hey those guys are smart how can we get them to fix this problem for us instead of having to pull our own weight" 14:00 < Casteil> situation 14:05 < asimon> Good morning friends 14:05 < asimon> I have a conundrum 14:06 < asimon> I've got a server that refuses incoming connections (pings, rdp, etc) 14:06 < asimon> But if i log on to it locally, it has network access and can talk to other machines on the network just fine 14:06 < asimon> Any idea what the hell is going on? 14:07 < ktechmidas> Firewall? 14:07 < ktechmidas> wrong subnet? 14:08 < ktechmidas> several possibilities I suppose 14:08 < ktechmidas> mostly on the networking layer 14:10 < arlion> Gentlemen, Welcome back to the shop. 14:10 < asimon> Hadn't considered the subnet, i'll check that out 14:11 < arlion> also vlan. 14:11 < arlion> is your server discovering it's ip through dhcp or static ip? 14:18 < asimon> Static ip 14:19 < asimon> I guess it could also be a dns issue 14:22 < arlion> hmm... dns issue. 14:23 < asimon> Subnet looks ok I think 14:23 < asimon> Man I'm wishing I paid more attention in my high school networking class :( 14:24 < Casteil> it's always a dns issue 14:24 < hlavender> im trying to wrestle with MPLS routing atm 14:24 < hlavender> networking sux 14:24 < GreyKite> ...I kinda like networking 14:25 < arlion> do im a network admin before I was a linux admin. 14:25 < arlion> asimon: can you ping default gateway, can you ping something off site? 14:26 < arlion> use MTR to those same Ip's to detect a routing issue. 14:26 < arlion> check firewall configs. 14:30 < arlion> * I was a network admin before..* 14:31 < asimon> arlion: I can do both from the server locally, yes 14:31 < asimon> What's MTR? 14:32 < arlion> matt's traceroute 14:32 < rhqq> no 14:32 < rhqq> my trace route 14:32 < rhqq> My traceroute 14:33 < arlion> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTR_(software) 14:33 < arlion> My traceroute, originally named Matt's traceroute (MTR) is a computer program which combines the functions of the traceroute and ping programs in one network diagnostic tool.[2] 14:33 < asimon> Gotcha 14:33 < rhqq> originally, but now its `my traceroute` :P 14:33 < arlion> Sorry for being old school >.> 14:33 < rhqq> :P 14:33 < rhqq> well, i didnt know about the other part, i always seen `my` 14:33 < rhqq> so 50/50 ;p 14:34 < giant_it_burrit> what about my trace route tool? 14:34 < rhqq> apparently the acronym used to expand to something else than it does right now 14:34 < jaelae> i got a new laptop a few weeks ago and it hs the most frustrating issue 14:34 < jaelae> its a lenovo T470 - and the touchpoint mouse buttons do not work 14:34 < jaelae> only the touchpad buttons 14:37 < hlavender> is it even possible to get decent hardware anymore? 14:37 < hlavender> every vendor we use is shit! 14:37 < hlavender> Dell - Constant issues 14:38 < hlavender> HP - awful build quality 14:38 < hlavender> Surfaces seem okay so far, but aren't repairable 14:38 < hlavender> so gg when one breaks 14:39 < jaelae> yea maybe this is a driver issue but who knos 14:39 < jaelae> very frustrating since im so used to using it 14:39 < hlavender> does that one have the usb c dock? 14:39 < hlavender> or an actual dock connector? 14:44 < giant_it_burrit> ive never had a dell issue 14:44 < DeVito> I've had a few, but since I have next-day replacement plan I've never been too bothered 14:54 < Casteil> mkillebrew: you around? 14:56 < Bru-> morn 14:56 < rhqq> hi 14:57 < Casteil> @ mkillebrew https://www.reddit.com/r/gundeals/comments/8khbn0/parts_helius_tactical_here_with_a_new_comp_and_a/dz7nu02 < these guys are some pretty sweet brake/comp makers 14:58 < Casteil> got me a black "Skorpion" brake for like $15 shipped 14:58 < arlion> hlavender: we use dell as our sole hardware provider and we expect a 1% hardware that will be incorrectly built. 15:00 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009F1R0GC/ hahaha 15:00 < rhqq> i remember there was a guy who had paintball gun attached to something like that 15:01 < hlavender> arlion: do you not hate the ever decreasing build quality? 15:01 < rhqq> for 3 weeks we seen pidgeons in all possible colors 15:01 < hlavender> seems every new model we buy the plastic gets thinner and thinner 15:01 < hlavender> and more weak and flimsy feeling 15:01 < rhqq> hlavender: dell? 15:01 < hlavender> yeah 15:02 < rhqq> yeah, but it's just an outcome of that race for getting thinner and thinner and slimmer and more gay laptops 15:02 < hlavender> the vostros feel better built than the latitudes at this point 15:02 < arlion> hlavender: hmm... no, we have probably bought about 6k servers from them this year.. It's very much a constant. 15:02 < rhqq> i'd be more than happy having 5mm thicker laptop but with actually thicker case 15:02 < rhqq> plastics 15:02 < rhqq> i had my palmrest replaced 15:02 < hlavender> £750 device and feels like it came out of a cereal packet 15:02 < rhqq> because it cracked on its own 15:03 < rhqq> and i had that "extra" magnesium shell 15:03 < rhqq> instad of plastic one 15:03 < rhqq> it bulged on its own O.O 15:03 < hlavender> lol, typical dell atm 15:03 < hlavender> my xps 15 arrived bent 15:03 < rhqq> not even close to any airvent nor hinge 15:03 < hlavender> wouldnt sit flat on the table 15:03 < rhqq> just in the middle of laptop under the screen 15:04 < rhqq> other thing was 15:04 < rhqq> that gorilla glass thing 15:04 < rhqq> started to peel off 15:04 < rhqq> i mean unsticked in one of corners 15:04 < hlavender> rhqq wow... 15:04 < Casteil> my xps 15 arrived bent < Lol, ouch 15:04 < rhqq> RMA, had to send it to them 15:04 < rhqq> after a week it came back with broken motherboard 15:04 < rhqq> xD 15:04 < Casteil> what XPS 15? 15:04 < hlavender> 9560 15:04 < hlavender> biggest piece of shit ever 15:04 < Casteil> ahh 15:04 < rhqq> they sent next day dude to replace my motherboard 15:05 < Casteil> I was hoping they started shipping 9570s early 15:05 < hlavender> dunno how dell can sell that as a top of the line product 15:05 < Casteil> I've got a 9570 w/ a 8750H on order 15:05 < hlavender> actually embarrassing 15:05 < rhqq> so my 7250 currently event though is 2 years old has new cpu, new case and new screen 15:05 < rhqq> actually new not refurb 15:06 < hlavender> not to mention how hilariously bad their usb c implementation is 15:06 < rhqq> so can't really complain. 15:06 < Casteil> We've had a pretty good experience with Dell 15:06 < hlavender> lying about the bandwidth 15:06 < hlavender> not even thunderbolt 3 15:06 < rhqq> if they are willing to spend that much on parts/service 15:06 < Casteil> that said we buy mostly refurbs from a local guy so they generally have hands-on verification that they're actually functional 15:06 < rhqq> im ok with that as long they get the shit fixed 15:06 < hlavender> rhqq: but it would be way better if they just didnt break the first time 15:06 < rhqq> its impossible 15:06 < rhqq> i mean given the level of complexity of the thing 15:07 < rhqq> i mean, sure 15:07 < Casteil> doesn't matter what laptop manufacturer you're talking about; you'll always find someone complaining about poor and/or decreasing quality 15:07 < rhqq> it'd be nice 15:07 < rhqq> but it's impossible because they're all assembled by humans 15:07 < hlavender> Casteil: Apple? I mean they do stupid shit like take all the ports off, but it's not like the quality ever changes 15:07 < hlavender> now using a 2017 macbook pro 15:07 < Casteil> hlavender: howso? I feel like USB-C is just poorly implemented all around 15:07 < hlavender> had 0 issues 15:07 < corn266> (((innovation))) 15:07 < rhqq> apple is even shittier if it comes to quality 15:08 < Casteil> hlavender: funny, I seem to recall a certain 'keyboardgate' issue lately 15:08 < rhqq> "machined" aluminium bodies 15:08 < rhqq> xD 15:08 < hlavender> I've got two of the new ones, a 2016 MBP and a 2017MBP 15:08 < rhqq> i mean, sure, models pre 2010 did feel sturdy 15:08 < hlavender> had no issues with keyboards 15:08 < rhqq> but anything after 2010 is flimsy as fuck 15:08 < Casteil> hlavender: See, just as I said 15:08 < Casteil> you'll always find someone happy and someone else who's pissed off 15:09 < hlavender> yeah fair enough 15:09 < rhqq> true 15:09 < hlavender> I just don't feel like Dell is worth the price any more 15:09 < asimon> AHA 15:09 < asimon> it was the fuckin firewall 15:09 < Casteil> fact is which such a small clearance between key and case on those keyboards, small grit can bind them up easily 15:09 < rhqq> hlavender: yet you stick with apple xD 15:09 < corn266> no it was dns 15:09 < rhqq> ^^^ 15:10 < asimon> Oh I think I see 15:11 < asimon> it's not recognizing my work network as a private network 15:11 < asimon> so its applying the public rules 15:11 < arlion> lol windows. 15:11 < Bru-> asimon: dns 15:11 < Bru-> alweyz 15:11 < arlion> you drunk. 15:11 < hlavender> rhqq: xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 15:11 < rhqq> apple is grossly overpriced for what do they offer 15:12 < rhqq> especially now 15:12 < hlavender> well i don't buy my work laptops 15:12 < rhqq> their hw is not innovative anymore 15:12 < hlavender> so may as well get something expensive 15:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> morning fellas 15:12 < arlion> rhqq: and you know what. I'm going to buy one. 15:12 < hlavender> nice and reliable, proper unix 15:12 < hlavender> nice build quality 15:12 < asimon> It's not a good morning mcdonaldswifi 15:12 < hlavender> integrates with my iphone when im out on the road 15:12 < arlion> rhqq: as a linux admin who nuked my laptop yet again with another build update.. I'm going to mac . 15:12 < rhqq> not as reliable as it used to be 15:12 < Casteil> the vostros feel better built than the latitudes at this point < probably couldn't disagree with this more 15:12 < Casteil> btw 15:13 < rhqq> arlion: good luck 15:13 < Casteil> latitudes are pretty well built all around 15:13 < arlion> rhqq: I just have to justify the 3k price tag,. 15:13 < rhqq> haha 15:13 < hlavender> Casteil: the ones we just got are genuinely terrible 15:13 < rhqq> pretty much 15:13 < hlavender> Casteil: like a cm of flex if you press on the palm rest 15:13 < rhqq> hlavender: latitude? 15:13 < corn266> Can I use a windows 10 recovery disk to image a new hard drive with a windows 8.1 backup image? 15:13 < hlavender> yep 15:13 < Casteil> what latitude? 15:14 < rhqq> mine is actually surprisingly sturdy comparing to other 12" laptops i tested in my life 15:14 < asimon> hooray i figured it out 15:14 < asimon> god damn that's satisfying 15:14 < Casteil> overall my latitude 7470 has served me well 15:15 < Casteil> no complaints aside from the performance not quite being where I'd like it having to build/debug so much lately 15:15 < Casteil> time to step up from this i5-6300U to an i7-8750H for MOAR POWAH 15:16 < rhqq> hah 15:16 < rhqq> i'm god with my current i7-5500u 15:16 < rhqq> good 15:16 < Casteil> it's literally about 4x the multicore performance 15:16 < rhqq> but then im only using my browser 15:16 < rhqq> and shitload of terminals 15:17 < rhqq> well, and im playing rocket league 15:17 < rhqq> :P 15:17 < rhqq> but it works on anything 15:17 < hxcsp> i need a laptop with a better gpu so i can game at work 15:17 < Casteil> lmao 15:17 < hxcsp> i have a corner office, and my monitors face away from the door, perfect opportunity im wasting here 15:17 < rhqq> this is why im hunting for ryzen laptop now :PP 15:18 < hlavender> i7-7700HQ does me fine 15:18 < hlavender> all i use is chrome, RDP and a terminal 15:19 < hlavender> rhqq: RIP BATTERY LIFE 15:19 < rhqq> bullshit 15:19 < Casteil> 7700HQ is pretty beefy 15:19 < rhqq> mobile ryzens have same tpd as intel U series 15:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> asimon: what's wrong bossman 15:19 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking hell, I hate it when building power dies 15:19 < hlavender> engage generator 15:20 < Casteil> same TDP but how about same powersaving/idle consumption? 15:20 <+TuxedoJack> Nothing quite like trying to remote in and not being able to ping your damn PC 15:20 < kepler> our white noise generator died the other day. i thought it was the air conditioner :/ 15:20 < rhqq> Casteil: actually it's insane with ryzens 15:20 < hxcsp> TuxedoJack: especially when you are supposed to actually be at the office right 15:20 < hxcsp> :D 15:20 < rhqq> so i'm quite positive 15:20 < corn266> EPEL is trying to install GraphicsMagick on one of my machines, is there a way to tell it I don't want that shit? 15:20 * Casteil shrugs 15:20 < Casteil> I'll stick with intel 15:20 < hlavender> yer but the entire software world has optimised power stuff for intel 15:20 < Casteil> you do you 15:20 < hlavender> no one uses mobile AMD 15:20 < Casteil> ^^^ for good reason 15:20 < hlavender> linux on that will be laughable 15:20 <+TuxedoJack> hxcsp: 100% remote and I took an hour of PTO today since I had to be up at 3:30 AM to get the fiancee to the airport for a 5:30 flight 15:20 < Casteil> it's always sucked ass 15:20 < hlavender> yer AMD is a waste of time 15:20 <+TuxedoJack> Which she missed by 5 minutes because of FUCKING TSA 15:21 < rhqq> well, i'm going to find out 15:21 < hxcsp> :/ 15:21 < FenJai> Sup dudes 15:21 < rhqq> and i'll happily test every single thing to provide feedback for the community 15:21 <+TuxedoJack> Shitstains insisted that teriyaki seaweed and Sweetarts Ropes were a security risk and had to be individually screened 15:21 < rhqq> ;p 15:21 < hlavender> unfortunately single core still wins 15:21 <+TuxedoJack> TSA = fucking jobs program for idiots 15:21 < asimon> McDonaldsWiFi: Well now its okay 15:21 < hlavender> until workloads are more threaded 15:21 < rhqq> hlavender: cool, firefox+chromium 15:21 < FenJai> Best part of GDPR is finding all the recruitment companies my details have spread to 15:22 < hlavender> FenJai: ahahahhaa 15:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> asimon: LOL that was quick 15:22 < Casteil> TuxedoJack: there's a reason why they tell you not to bring foods. 15:22 < hlavender> FenJai: I must get 50 emails a week from recruiters I've never even heard of 15:22 < Casteil> I'm not saying it's not stupid; but if you don't want to be hassled, follow the rules 15:22 <+TuxedoJack> Casteil: Fully factory-sealed packages. These people are fucking idiots with a double-digit IQ and a triple-digit income, and airport security is only there to make white people feel safe 15:23 <+TuxedoJack> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQdC-e82gmk 15:23 < hlavender> The TSA were interesting when I went to the US 15:23 <+TuxedoJack> Directly relevant 15:23 < hlavender> top tip: dont carry a firewall in your hand luggage 15:23 < hlavender> won't go down well 15:24 <+TuxedoJack> hlavender: my grandfather worked for Saudi Aramco / BP for years as a consultant and used to bring a shitload of laptop cases home 15:24 < Casteil> last time I went through TSA with a shitload of network gear (firewall included), much to my surprise I didn't get hassled at all 15:24 <+TuxedoJack> Always got interesting looks from TSA whenever I flew using one of them 15:25 < hlavender> rly? I look slightly middle eastern so maybe that's it 15:25 < Casteil> probably. 15:25 < hlavender> plus not american 15:25 < hlavender> they clearly dont like meraki devices 15:25 < hlavender> must be on Ubiquitis payroll 15:25 < Casteil> mine was a red watchguard 15:26 < Casteil> red usually doubles your chances of getting 'pulled over' 15:26 < Casteil> :P' 15:26 < hlavender> red makes it go faster 15:26 < L3gacy> And flames 15:26 < L3gacy> Red flames 15:26 <+TuxedoJack> Flames. Flames on the side of my face 15:26 < L3gacy> I need to wake up. Job hunting sucks. Depression sucks. I know, everything sucks... 15:26 < rhqq> red army also makes you run faster ;p 15:27 <+TuxedoJack> Flames, on the side of my face, breathing-breathl- heaving breaths. Heaving breaths... Heaving... 15:28 < felda> our core switch has ports that are randomly dieing ;_; 15:28 < hlavender> dont you hate azure identity protection? 15:29 < hlavender> USERS AT RISK!!!!!!!!! 15:29 < hlavender> sign in failed due to being in a non allowed location 15:29 < hlavender> ok, well was that with correct credentials or not? 15:29 < hlavender> or was it just an attempt at signing in 15:29 < hlavender> stupid microsoft 15:29 < L3gacy> Anyone have any job leads for a guy with 4 semesters of cisco training? 15:30 < Hatter> oh good morning.. I guess 15:31 < L3gacy> TBH, I'm so frustrated, I may go into substitute teaching high school 15:31 < felda> L3gacy did you at least get your CCNA? 15:31 < L3gacy> no. Cant afford the exam atm 15:31 < ebol4> L3gacy: where do you live 15:31 < L3gacy> Vineland, NJ, USA, North America, Sol III, Mutter's Spiral 15:32 < vinrock> aka 15:32 < vinrock> the middle of nowhere, nj 15:32 < L3gacy> I'm poisoning my self. Allergic to almonds, and I bought a bag. YAY! 15:32 < Casteil> I don't think NJ has a "middle of nowhere" 15:32 < L3gacy> Let's see if B17 is all it's cracked up to be 15:32 < L3gacy> NJ is a "nowhere" 15:32 < Bru-> https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8kyvkg/xpost_tifu_by_getting_google_to_ban_our_entire/ 15:32 < Bru-> oofdah 15:33 < vinrock> casteil they call the part of nj he lives in 'the pinelands' 15:33 < vinrock> where the jersey devil is from 15:33 < L3gacy> Pineys! *shudders* 15:33 < vinrock> hah 15:33 < vinrock> i went to the seafood festival in belmar yesterday and got fuckin stuffed 15:34 < vinrock> didnt wear any sunblock and decided to turn into a lobster myself 15:34 < L3gacy> Seafood. Another allergy 15:34 < L3gacy> and legumes... 15:34 < vinrock> damn 15:34 < vinrock> that sucks 15:35 < L3gacy> I still eat it 15:35 < L3gacy> And have benadryl chasers 15:35 < vinrock> like a boss 15:35 < L3gacy> Lahk a baws 15:35 < L3gacy> *flops over from eating almonds* 15:36 < rhqq> Bru-: wow, that thread 15:36 < Bru-> looks like it was an x-post 15:36 < Bru-> but still 15:36 < Bru-> "whoops" 15:36 < rhqq> amazing 15:36 < rhqq> :D 15:37 < rhqq> is there a way to disable googles appstore on google4business account? 15:37 < felda> you guys keep one of these in your server room? https://i.imgur.com/On3tEJC.jpg 15:38 < rhqq> felda: whats that 15:38 < rhqq> looks like a shell 15:38 < felda> unexploded shell 15:38 < rhqq> sounds good 15:38 < rhqq> actually akamai has something like that 15:38 < felda> https://old.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/8kzx5p/some_kind_of_explosive_lying_on_the_floor_of/ 15:38 < rhqq> not explosive 15:38 < felda> > It’s a Sagger Missile A Russian MCLOS ATGM. 15:38 < rhqq> but "big red button" to shut entire network at instant 15:38 < felda> wew 15:39 < rhqq> that'd be spectacular actually 15:39 < rhqq> 1/3 of internet going down 15:39 < rhqq> and then all ISPs would drown with all these extra traffic 15:39 < L3gacy> Core switches are down! I cant access the servers! Why is SWAT AND ATF STORMING US?!?! 15:41 < L3gacy> I AM THE TACO AVENGER! 15:42 < L3gacy> Seriously upset with IT in NJ 15:45 < cantibot> Man...what a dick twister of a monday boys 15:45 < abakedapplepie> rhqq: its not not explosive 15:45 < abakedapplepie> theyre saying its live 15:45 < cantibot> Fuck, I thought all day yesterday today was memorial holiday wtf. 15:45 < rhqq> abakedapplepie? 15:45 < abakedapplepie> cantibot: rip 15:46 < cantibot> So yea, daddy canti is a wee bit late today ;) 15:46 < abakedapplepie> me too 15:46 < abakedapplepie> but thats because my car decided to fucking die 15:46 < ebol4> cantibot: i do my best to not know when any holidays are, so when someone mentions a 3 day weekend on the friday before i can be excited 15:46 < L3gacy> I have black cherry andpomegranate tequila, aged in an oak cask... 15:47 < L3gacy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9CF1vXmtrQ 15:47 < L3gacy> Skameleon :) 15:47 < L3gacy> I'm gonna get to work on this server rack... I have to go to an onsite client.... I want a full time job, dammit 15:47 < ebol4> cantibot: also, new flcl on like june 5th or something 15:48 < steevo> ebol4, they're making more? 15:48 < abakedapplepie> oh man the sysadmin puns in that thread are great 15:48 < ebol4> yeah they made a new season or something 15:49 < ebol4> not sure if it's a sequel or what exactly 15:50 < SleePy> Well somebody wont be happy that I just fixed the firewall rule that wasn't working to prevent access to certain sites :\ 15:51 < steevo> SleePy, I love blocking stuff people shouldn't be doing at work to see if anyone is ballsy enough to whine about it 15:51 < ebol4> if they block websites i VPN out or use my phone 15:52 < SleePy> Well it was on the public wifi, but somebody was accessing adult sites. Was wondering how that was possible, I know I blocked that. Found the rule wasn't setup correctly 15:52 < cantibot> ebol4 yea.. 15:52 < cantibot> Idk man. 15:52 < ebol4> jerkin it at the starbucks at 9AM 15:52 < SleePy> Sadly, I noticed this when one of the very small branch office router reports told me 94 mb was downloaded from xvideo-cdn.. Only 94 mb :D 15:52 < cantibot> In the starbucks bathroom with the door closed.. 15:53 < cantibot> on booze, im left in residue and confused 15:53 < cantibot> like the first time you used soft water 15:53 < cantibot> fuck... 15:53 < ebol4> the heck is soft water 15:53 < cantibot> .yt good friday why boc remix 15:53 < cantibot> URGH! 15:53 < cantibot> MODSS!!!! 15:53 < cantibot> Let me fix this fucking bot! 15:54 < cantibot> ebol4 soft water is water is mineral (hard) water that's been treated with salt to remove the mineral 15:54 < cantibot> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHSr1WVgx9w 15:54 < cantibot> this is the song I was referencing though 15:54 < br14> "BR14, time for your annual review. No rush, get it done in the next 2 months." Whats the f*&king point? 15:54 < cantibot> but yea...I am cautiously excited for the new FLCL 15:54 < ebol4> busywork br14 15:55 < cantibot> That was a pretty defining anime in my 13 year old mind. 15:55 < ebol4> makes it look like management serves a purpose 15:55 < cantibot> If they fuck it up, I am going to have a problem with it. 15:55 < cantibot> Hell it took me forever to come to terms with it only being like 6 episodes. Kinda perfectly imprefect. 15:55 < steevo> cantibot, eh. I didn't think flcl was all that great. 15:55 < br14> HR mandates it. my boss/avp wants nothing to do with them 15:55 < ebol4> i'm hoping that they wouldn't bother to bring it back unless they had some really good ideas to work with 15:55 < cantibot> ^^^^ 15:55 < cantibot> really 15:55 < cantibot> steevo why so? 15:55 < ebol4> i'm pretty sure it's not like flcl was a major financial success 15:56 < ebol4> so i don't think they'd bring it back for moola 15:56 < cantibot> no it was a flop 15:56 < steevo> cantibot, I don't mean that it was bad by any means. I enjoyed it. It just wasn't all that big of a deal for me 15:56 < cantibot> more or less 15:56 < cantibot> steevo I can get that 15:56 < cantibot> I think it was more the time in my life when I saw it 15:56 < steevo> cantibot, your comment about them ruining it is how I feel about star wars 15:56 < cantibot> weird pre-teen phase very influenced by strange shit 15:56 < cantibot> Awh steevo :( yea...that is another tough one. 15:57 < cantibot> brb gotta go look at a laptop that is "just spinning and spinning" 15:57 < cantibot> like...did you try shutting the fucking thing off? 15:58 < cantibot> Probably have like 20 user profiles all logged in and it has no memory 15:58 < steevo> cantibot, or windows is just being windows 15:58 < cantibot> true 15:59 < ebol4> or there is a poltergeist literally spinning the laptop 15:59 < cantibot> lmao that is exactly what I invisioned when I heard the voicemail 15:59 < cantibot> "this bitch is literally flying across the room, please advise" 16:00 < L3gacy> Call the Vatican 16:00 < L3gacy> I'm renaming my kitchen "The FATican" 16:00 < cantibot> RMA to italy 16:00 < ebol4> ghosts and demonic possession fall under IT's purview 16:01 < SynMonger> who you gonna call? 16:01 < L3gacy> ebol4: so does the fucking coffee maker. I got bitched at once, @ $UNI to unlplug the server from the APC UPS and bring it in so the microwave and coffee maker could be used during a power outage 16:01 < L3gacy> DELLBUSTERS! 16:01 < cantibot> lol 16:01 < ebol4> jesus 16:02 < L3gacy> I'm glad I no longer work as a student employee there 16:02 < L3gacy> It's all "dubya dubya dubya dot fuckery dot com" 16:05 < DomLS3> lmfao 16:05 < DomLS3> http://www.dubyadubyadubya.com/ 16:07 < cantibot> this website...it confuses me 16:09 < hlavender> do i need the wwww before the web bit? 16:09 < hlavender> oh ok, thanks 16:10 < ebol4> 2018 16:10 < felda> any cheap 48 port gigabit managed switches? 16:10 < ebol4> not having www. and bare domain redirect to the same place 16:10 < hlavender> W W W W dot GOOGLE dot COM 16:10 < hlavender> not working, plz fix 16:11 < Heresiarch> felda: define "cheap". 16:11 < felda> at least cheaper 16:11 < felda> we are just a small business 16:11 < Heresiarch> felda: HPE. 16:11 < felda> we don't need switch stacking or fancy protocols 16:11 < felda> basically just VLANs 16:12 < cantibot> Jumbo frames? 16:12 < Heresiarch> hp makes basic l2/l3 switches that are fairly inexpensive. All web-based mgmt, though. 16:12 < hlavender> Heresiarch: is it java? 16:12 < hlavender> coz fuck that 16:12 < cantibot> HPE is actually 3com stuff 16:12 < cantibot> so it's good 16:12 < Heresiarch> hlavender: nah, basic html/JS. 16:12 < felda> cantibot no jumbo frames 16:12 < hlavender> ah ok cool 16:12 < steevo> I like HPE for switches 16:13 < hlavender> Moving ours to Meraki 16:13 < hlavender> eventually 16:13 < cantibot> be "that guy" and buy all extreme switches 16:13 < steevo> I don't like cloudy things, so meraki as I know about them is out 16:13 < cantibot> ^^^ 16:13 < hlavender> well I'd potentially agree with you 16:13 < hlavender> but I manage 10 offices in 9 countries 16:13 < Heresiarch> y'know, I get why folks like Meraki...but I'd rather not be held hostage to a cloud service for configuring my crap. 16:13 < hlavender> so its so much easier 16:14 < felda> gotta love ebay 16:14 < felda> marking switches as gigabit when only 2 of the 48 are 16:14 < felda> lmao 16:14 < steevo> hlavender, I see the usecases of cloud stuff, but until I am in a situation that forces it into a need, I won't use the cloud 16:14 < hlavender> felda: you'll end up with fake 48 port switches 16:14 < hlavender> loads of 4 port netgears glued together 16:14 < Heresiarch> felda: there's a few things that are not worth the $20 you'll save by going ebay. Switches are one of those things. Buy new, get the warranty. 16:14 < felda> I always look up model numbers for full specs before I buy 16:14 < hlavender> 10/100 plz 16:16 < hlavender> its managed because it comes with a small SaaS vietnamese child that will plug and unplug devices 16:16 < hlavender> slavery as a service 16:18 < DomLS3> If you look up the model number "GARBAGE" you'll find pfsense 16:19 < L3gacy> I has brie cheese and black cherry and pomegranate tequila :) 16:19 < rhqq> Bru-: https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en_in/terms/2013/1/premier_terms.html check "5. Suspension" section 16:19 < rhqq> there's nothing about banning entire company, just a single user account is bant™ 16:21 < Nightcinder> https://www.anandtech.com/show/12783/acer-to-roll-out-amazon-alexa-to-all-pcs 16:21 < Nightcinder> w h y 16:22 < ebol4> welp, guess i can rest easy knowing i'll never buy an acer computer 16:22 < Bru-> rhqq: yeah their reps need to resolve that 16:22 < plop> and you can use the function keys to order dishwasher soap. 16:22 < felda> you can run alexa on a PC? 16:22 < felda> I suppose it is just software doh 16:23 < rhqq> Bru-: i'm sitting with a friend on that and it sounds like a BS 16:23 < Nightcinder> Acer will leverage Intel’s Smart Sound Technology with an integrated Digital Signal Processor to handle audio, and voice commands. Some models, such as the Acer Spin 5 will offer four digital microphones as well for far-filed voice recognition, while others will only support the more common two microphone setup for near-field. 16:23 < rhqq> there's no point in gsuite tos 16:23 < rhqq> that would indicate blocking entire company 16:27 < felda> I assume most of you saw the super spooky Google banning a company thread? 16:27 < rhqq> i mean it sounds possible, but there must be much more behind the scenes we dont know 16:27 < felda> that's what I was thinking 16:27 < rhqq> "If Google Suspends an End User Account for any reason without prior notice to Customer, at Customer's request, Google will provide Customer the reason for the Suspension as soon as is reasonably possible." 16:27 < rhqq> from their tos 16:28 < hxcsp> banning a company? 16:28 < catbeard> BANT 16:28 < rhqq> BANT™ 16:28 < felda> but everyone seemed to keep supporting the part about Google not responding and also having really bad reputation for nuking people's accounts and never giving them back 16:28 < grumplestiltzkin> Yes, ban google before they ban you 16:28 < SynMonger> #deletegoogle 16:28 < felda> hxcsp https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8kyvkg/xpost_tifu_by_getting_google_to_ban_our_entire/ 16:29 < cantibot> what time does mcdonalds stop serving breakfast 16:29 < cantibot> also, they fixed RES with reddit 16:29 < cantibot> you don't have to go to old.reddit.com anymore 16:29 < felda> 10:30 as far as I recall 16:30 < ebol4> ungghhhhhhh standup meeting 16:30 < felda> cantibot i do it so when I'm logged out of reddit it doesn't show me the disgusting new webpage 16:30 < cantibot> and it doesn't bother me with that "sign in or sign up" box either 16:30 < cantibot> oh.. 16:30 < cantibot> FUCKING CHRIST 16:30 < cantibot> felda I had no idea.. 16:30 < cantibot> so RES only "fixes it" when I 16:30 < cantibot> log in? 16:30 < SynMonger> mcdonalds stops serving breakfast? 16:31 < cantibot> weird... 16:31 < felda> well reddit knows to use the old version based on when you login 16:31 < felda> so before that it always displays the new version 16:31 < cantibot> ahh 16:31 < felda> also the button to open the link and comments in separate tabs is gone on the new version 16:32 < felda> and so is dark mode which is literally all I use 16:32 < cantibot> ditto 16:32 < cantibot> is anyone following the thread about the bomb in the server room? 16:32 < felda> yeah lol 16:32 < cantibot> lmfao wtf?! 16:32 < cantibot> at first it looked like a telco splice case 16:32 < L3gacy> "That website is the bomb!" - Anonymous 16:32 < FenJai_> Anyone here use webex ? We just signed up and the account is in my name. Do I need to hand out these details to whoever will be hosting a webex meeting or is there a way to get a host URL ? 16:33 < catbeard> ugh just use slack 16:33 < felda> cantibot also RES post/subreddit filtering is broken on the new layout too 16:33 < cantibot> christ.. 16:34 < felda> yeah shit sucks 16:34 < cantibot> they are going to pull a Digg 16:34 < cantibot> I can feel it 16:34 < F34RInc> ^ 16:34 < grumplestiltzkin> FenJai_: You should be able to modify your display name, but iirc the URL contains the account name. I only * just* got mines working, it doesn't show in the URL, but it does show a name. but it's an enterprise account, so YMMV 16:34 < felda> "Oh wow only like 5 users are using the old site we'll just kill it" 16:34 < L3gacy> They are going to "DIGG" their own grave 16:34 < L3gacy> badum tiss 16:34 < FenJai_> grumplestiltzkin, mind if I PM you ? 16:34 < grumplestiltzkin> sure 16:35 < felda> HUEHUEHUEHUEH WHAT A JOKE pls ban L3gacy 16:35 < SynMonger> to the voatmobile! 16:35 < L3gacy> felda, pfsense! 16:35 < catbeard> all the sites i run are digg proof 16:35 < felda> SynMonger surely you're joking? 16:35 < felda> I could probably safely argue that Voat is worse than Tumblr 16:35 < steevo> felda, voat and reddit are exactly the same 16:35 < catbeard> WHAT ARE YOU CRAZY? COME AT ME! 16:36 < steevo> felda, its just two sides of one coin 16:36 < steevo> felda, same with 4chan and tumblr 16:36 < SynMonger> I dunno... if I join voat do I have to pick between being an incel or a white supremacist, or can I be both? 16:36 < felda> mmmmm 16:36 < felda> I would disagree 16:37 < felda> 4chan and Voat user base are questionable 16:37 < steevo> felda, define questionable in this context 16:37 < catbeard> so i'm making a dating site 16:37 < felda> not the numbers 16:37 < catbeard> that will be invite only 16:37 < felda> but the content of their characters 16:37 < F34RInc> felda, where do you rate 8ch 16:37 < felda> Voat is where people go when FatPeopleHate was closed down 16:38 < felda> Voat is where people go when Coontown was closed down 16:38 < steevo> felda, I am of that same opinon about people from the 'chans', tumblr, reddit, and voat 16:38 < felda> 8ch is probably better than 4ch in some way but there is a lot of crossover 16:38 < catbeard> better than the furries at 7ch 16:39 < felda> lmao yeah 7ch is very degenerate 16:39 < felda> they literally have a bestiality board 16:39 < JollyRgrs> i'm still just running 5.1ch tbh 16:39 < steevo> tumblr is probably the most degenerate 16:39 < felda> yeah but they mostly do porno 16:40 < JollyRgrs> felda: or is it just that the only results for tumblr you see are b/c you are searching for such? 16:40 < JollyRgrs> i used to have a tumblr account back when it was more like a live journal site... lol 16:40 < felda> probably because Tumblr is quite liberal 16:40 < felda> perhaps even too liberal 16:40 < felda> I'm sure there are pockets of fascism on Tumblr no doubt 16:41 < felda> but not like some of the extreme racism that can be found on Voat 16:41 < steevo> radical liberals are just as facist as radical conservitives 16:41 < catbeard> are they from Facistan? 16:42 < felda> radical conservatives on the whole are much more willing to use blind violence to achieve their goals 16:42 < steevo> felda, so are blm, bamn, etc 16:42 < felda> those groups typically use more targeted violence 16:42 < coderphive> shut up and read this: https://old.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/8kzx5p/some_kind_of_explosive_lying_on_the_floor_of/?st=jhgctg7u&sh=82f264eb 16:43 < felda> you're behind the curve coderphive 16:43 < coderphive> D: 16:44 < SynMonger> JOKE COMMENTS WILL GET YOU BANNED. 16:45 < DeVito> I can't be banned, I like pfSense too much 16:46 < corn266> is there a new update coderphive ? Last I saw was edit#7 16:46 < catbeard> reddit is like peter griffin going "so you got somethin to look at while you're talkin to her" over and over 16:46 < coderphive> Bomb squad was on site last I saw 16:46 < coderphive> Crazy that's happening in the CR 16:46 <@Code_Man65> Good lord 16:46 < asimon> I saw that this morning 16:47 < asimon> thought it was some kind of bloated networking bundle enclosure or something 16:47 < DomLS3> pfsense 16:47 < felda> Code_Man65 where's your server room I have a package to ship to it 16:47 < asimon> But that sub never ceases to amazing me both with the things people find and how quickly they get identified 16:47 <@Code_Man65> felda: Antartica 16:48 < felda> k sending a package at 1,000 MPH from a jet 16:51 < hlavender> felda: those dell rapid rails are very speedy these days 16:51 < hlavender> felda: can you slow them down a bit please? dont think my rack can cope 16:54 < JollyRgrs> corn266: where are these edits? i see none 16:56 < int0x1C8> JollyRgrs, further down the comments 16:56 < JollyRgrs> i found it, thanks int0x1C8 16:56 < int0x1C8> https://old.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/8kzx5p/some_kind_of_explosive_lying_on_the_floor_of/dzbu0dm/ 16:57 < kuahara> Just logged into a sonicwall whose hostname and password are the same. It's literally advertising the password. 16:57 < grumplestiltzkin> what teh fuck. I got through some of the comments. That's staged 16:58 < abakedapplepie> anyone else having a good monday? my water pump in the explorer catastrophically failed this morning 16:58 < abakedapplepie> D: 16:58 < abakedapplepie> at least it failed in the parking lot at work 16:58 <@Code_Man65> At least you didn't find a bomb in the server room abakedapplepie 16:58 < abakedapplepie> pfft that guy got the day off 16:58 < abakedapplepie> hes winning as far as im concerned 16:58 < int0x1C8> not bomb, thats a fucking guided antitank missile 16:58 < DomLS3> I wonder how long until that thread gets shut down by the FBI 16:58 < abakedapplepie> plus thats kinda exciting 16:59 < abakedapplepie> int0x1C8: its still a bomb 16:59 < abakedapplepie> its just a bomb with some propellant on the back of it 16:59 < DomLS3> it's likely a movie prop 16:59 < grumplestiltzkin> the fins on it are disassembled 16:59 < abakedapplepie> DomLS3 its in the soviet bloc 16:59 < abakedapplepie> its probably real 16:59 < int0x1C8> DomLS3, OP reported the bomb squad said its live 16:59 < grumplestiltzkin> 90% somebody bought it at a surplus store and starged it 16:59 < abakedapplepie> you can literally go out in the woods there and find that shit 17:00 < abakedapplepie> which is probably what someone did 17:00 < DomLS3> int0x1C8 how exactly is the bomb squad going to verify it's live? 17:00 < abakedapplepie> explosives sniffing 17:00 < DomLS3> I call bullshit 17:00 < grumplestiltzkin> wait. yeah, I was assuming murrica, where are you talking abakedapplepie ? 17:01 < abakedapplepie> grumplestiltzkin that thread is taking place in the czech republic 17:01 < DeVito> I get a message about an urgent T1 outage, ask them to have customer reboot their T1 router, "Can you confirm they rebooted the router?" 17:01 < DomLS3> where is it located? It should be on the news by now 17:01 < int0x1C8> inert/training munitions are generally marked clearly as such 17:01 < DeVito> Response from callcenter "Cisco." 17:01 < abakedapplepie> so its very likely or very possibly likely a real, live, soviet ordnance 17:01 < int0x1C8> DomLS3: czechmate 17:01 < DomLS3> int0x1C8: I see what you did there 17:01 < grumplestiltzkin> oh, there it is yeah. OK, more plausible 17:02 < SynMonger> DeVito: score another one for "have you tried turning it off and on again?" 17:02 < DeVito> SynMonger, my issue is more that "Cisco." is not a valid answer to "Did you ask them to reboot the router?" 17:03 < DeVito> It's like I'm dealing with shittily-trained markov bots 17:03 < technonerd> Reboot the vindaloop 17:03 < ebol4> the call center reps did not pass the turing test 17:05 < corn266> grumplestiltzkin r/karmaconspiracy 17:06 < br14> How do you guys evalulate vendor support when making new purchases? 17:06 < ebol4> call their support line and pretend to be a current customer to evalute hold times 17:07 <+A-KO> omg I'm tired 17:07 <+A-KO> fuck why did I schedule a Monday 8:00AM meeting 17:07 <+A-KO> wtf is wrong with me? 17:07 < br14> hold times are less importat to me than if someone with a clue picks up or if it's a front line 19yr old who reads off a script. 17:07 < rpifan> yay for WFH 17:07 < vinrock> (11:07:27 AM) A-KO: wtf is wrong with me? 17:08 < int0x1C8> s/ Monday 8:00AM/ 17:08 < vinrock> u on crack cocaine myman 17:08 < rpifan> i wish i could work from home everyday 17:08 <+A-KO> I used to WFH 17:08 < ebol4> same 17:08 < JollyRgrs> A-KO: could be worse 17:08 <+A-KO> worked for like 3 years straight 17:08 < JollyRgrs> could be 8am EDT 17:08 < rpifan> its glorious 17:08 < rpifan> i get to sit here 17:08 < rpifan> no distractions 17:08 < rpifan> my music 17:09 < rpifan> and feel the gentle miami breeze 17:09 < rpifan> versus the freezing 32th floor A/C 17:09 < ekaj> anyone have anything hosted at azurewebsites.net? 17:09 < rpifan> nop 17:09 < JollyRgrs> thirty-seconth floor? 17:09 < ekaj> seconthed 17:10 < ekaj> that actually looks like a word 17:10 < rpifan> it is 17:10 <@Code_Man65> A-KO: That's just crazy time, 8AM meetings are vile 17:11 < rpifan> i suppose im supposed to be in the OKR meeting now 17:11 < rpifan> but i dont have the ring central link 17:11 < rpifan> oh well 17:11 < rpifan> gonna have ot miss it 17:12 <+A-KO> Code_Man65: scheduled that way because of our EU folks 17:12 <+A-KO> working with a coworker in France via webex 17:12 <+A-KO> it's 5:12PM there 17:12 <@Code_Man65> Ah 17:12 < ebol4> europeans. am i right? 17:12 <+A-KO> indeed 17:12 <+A-KO> I'm tired af 17:12 < rpifan> well 17:12 < rpifan> my collegaues 17:12 < rpifan> are in the uk atm 17:12 < JollyRgrs> i gotta work with the french as well, but at least i have a few hours of cross-over time 17:13 < rpifan> thats the office we work with a lot 17:13 <+A-KO> yeah if I was east coast this would be easier :/ 17:13 <+A-KO> our APAC meetings are like 6-7PM, our EU meetings are either 8AM or 9AM and the EU guys stay later 17:13 < rpifan> we have meetings with everyone at 11 17:13 < rpifan> that includes the uk guys 17:16 < rpifan> so in the last two ive had to update the emai land change the password for this customer 5 times 17:16 < hlavender> working with LA from the uk sucks 17:16 < rpifan> and given how stupid our system is 17:16 < hlavender> meetings at 5PM :^( 17:16 < rpifan> for updating emials 17:16 < rpifan> its a 30 minute proces 17:16 < rpifan> why the hell is this person doing this 17:17 < JollyRgrs> hlavender: lol 17:17 < felda> wow an old relic 17:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> man 17:18 < felda> someone putting noses on their emojis 17:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> IT was so great at my company last year.. we were included on meetings and decisions.. 17:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> new management...corporate people roll in 17:18 < felda> >8^) 17:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm learning about changes after they are made -.- 17:18 < hlavender> CORPORATE LYFE 17:18 < felda> McDonaldsWiFi maybe you should have SCRUM about it? 17:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> "Oh we decidednot to use this ticket board anymore.. go ahead and remove us all from it and then find us a new one" 17:18 < hlavender> our management just fire people every 10 seconds 17:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> hlavender: that too 17:19 < steevo> McDonaldsWiFi, welcome to the club. It sucks here, we can't afford t-shirts 17:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: what'd you call me 17:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> my job title should be fireman now 17:19 < hlavender> mire morons, fire morons 17:19 < hlavender> *hire 17:19 < hlavender> fire good people, hire morons 17:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> cause all I do is put out fires from shortsightedness 17:19 < felda> McDonaldsWiFi congratulations manglement decided we're all switching to Chromebooks 17:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> hlavender: they seriously don't want free thinking people, they want yes men 17:19 < hlavender> then hire a couple of good people but put them under such extreme pressure they dont meet deadlines 17:19 < AnimalFarmPig> fire good people, hire morons <--- are you the CTO at my job n - 2? 17:19 < hlavender> and then fire them 17:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: don't, this could happen lol 17:19 < estranger> GLORIOUS DAY, FRIENDS 17:20 < felda> McDonaldsWiFi all hardwires must be removed everything will be wireless 17:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> they are also talking about nuking an ERP system we use 17:20 < AnimalFarmPig> hlavender: all of this sounds very familiar 17:20 < estranger> good thing ERPs are simple and easy to replace 17:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> how'd I found out? From someone complaining to me about the meeting a week later as if I was included on it 17:20 < steevo> McDonaldsWiFi, maybe time to find new job 17:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> steevo: way ahead of you 17:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've got an interview tomorrow with a competitor lol 17:20 < hlavender> estranger: ahhahhah 17:20 < ravioli> you guys saw that server room explosive thing right? 17:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> nope let's see the link 17:21 < steevo> ravioli, yeah. pretty interesting 17:21 < ravioli> https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/8kzx5p/some_kind_of_explosive_lying_on_the_floor_of/ 17:21 < steevo> McDonaldsWiFi, russian missle in server room, been there at least two months 17:21 < estranger> hlavender, gloooooooooooooorious 17:21 < estranger> i saw that missle.. wtf 17:21 < ravioli> how do you know it's been there for two months 17:21 < estranger> he put it there 17:21 < ravioli> heh 17:21 < felda> ravioli he says so 17:22 < felda> it's from the previous admin who suddenly left on uncertain terms 17:22 < ebol4> wish i'd find a missile in my server room 17:22 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ 17:22 < felda> I found a missile in my pants ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 17:22 < AnimalFarmPig> missiles are pretty expensive and hard to get for normal people 17:22 < AnimalFarmPig> guy should just keep it and not tell anybody 17:22 < ravioli> kek. 17:23 < AnimalFarmPig> sneak it out in his trousers 17:23 < felda> AnimalFarmPig it's probably Eastern Europe 17:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> steevo: LOL 17:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> steevo: oh wanna hear the best part? 17:23 < AnimalFarmPig> Czechia is Central Europe REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 17:23 < JollyRgrs> felda: a dud 17:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> They are handing large projects to... an MSP 17:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> DUN DUN DUNNNNN 17:23 < JollyRgrs> AAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 17:23 < felda> AnimalFarmPig don't lie 17:24 < AnimalFarmPig> felda: I have a map that clarifies this. One moment... 17:24 < DomLS3> felda: NSFW 17:24 < DomLS3> somebody kick felda for posting NSFW stuff about missles in his pants 17:24 < AnimalFarmPig> http://i.imgur.com/VM48NYl.jpg <--- definitive map of the regions of Europe 17:24 < steevo> McDonaldsWiFi, yeah, they're gonna get rid of you anyway, good thing you're already looking 17:24 < grumplestiltzkin> Hey, I need a sanity check. $180 for 4x8GB RAM sticks (used) ECC, unbuffered - that's a decent price, yeah? DDR3 10600E schtuff, micron branded, for home use 17:24 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: I see you also browse /r/homelabsales 17:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> steevo: yeah its looking like that 17:25 < grumplestiltzkin> AnimalFarmPig: well no, I found it on fleabay over hte weekend 17:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> steevo: or reverting me to helpdesk bitch full time but I'm not about that 17:25 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: oh, guy selling unbuffered ecc ddr3 for the same price on /r/homelab sales. I think his might be a bit quicker. One minute... link... 17:26 < steevo> McDonaldsWiFi, we take the high stress of sysadmin on because it's still better than helpdesk. Why would you ever go back? 17:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> cause they'd make me 17:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> or try to lol 17:26 < grumplestiltzkin> Im kicking myself, its going in a dell T110 II - I have a bunch of 10600 8GB sticks pulled from Cisco blades - but they are registered ECC, this thing needs unregistered 17:27 < steevo> McDonaldsWiFi, I'm saying they are horribly ignorant, it was rhetorical 17:27 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: looks like it sold already-- https://www.reddit.com/r/homelabsales/comments/8kp71v/fsustxddr3_samsung_unregistered_8gb_ecc_micron/ 17:27 < ebol4> RAM is so dumb 17:27 < AnimalFarmPig> grumplestiltzkin: so, seems a reasonable price, although this guy's was slightly faster RAM 17:27 < grumplestiltzkin> Oh, and I ended up getting freenas installed, it went smooth as silk and really fast, as soon as I changed to a different USB thumbdrive. 17:28 < AnimalFarmPig> 10:30 - 12 PM meeting, weeeeeee! 17:29 < grumplestiltzkin> it was slower than molasses, uphill, both ways, in winter, and kept crashing the VM during install 17:30 < felda> wow virtual machines are so passe we only use physical machines 17:30 < abakedapplepie> grumplestiltzkin: seems a bit high for used but only barely 17:31 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: that's what I thought, but its hte lowest fleabay auction I could find, others are well over 200 for similar 17:31 < abakedapplepie> really? 17:31 < abakedapplepie> pretty sure you can get new for ~220 17:31 < vinrock> grumps why are you worried about ecc in a homelab box? 17:32 < grumplestiltzkin> vinrock: it isn't hte ECC, its that it has to be unregistered ECC. I have a bunch of registered, and it doesnt like those 17:33 < vinrock> i understand, just curious why even bothering with ecc at all and not just using vanilla ram 17:33 < grumplestiltzkin> I haven't purchased ram for personal use in over 10 years 17:34 < khelpw> grumplestiltzkin: You don't use chrome, do you? 17:34 < grumplestiltzkin> I was mostly using firefox, but digging 'epic browser' lately (based on chromium) 17:35 < steevo> I use waterfox 17:35 < grumplestiltzkin> hm. Im mostly seeing right around $100 for a single 8GB stick 17:35 < grumplestiltzkin> for new 17:36 < corn266> I found a picture of grumplestiltzkin RAM https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/cd/f4/41cdf46156b50593f96a2771f7939f53.jpg 17:36 < vinrock> srs question: is "heart" actually an elemental? 17:36 < rhqq> corn266: awww, sweet 17:36 < vinrock> bcuz i think that lil mexican fucker was cheating every time he called up capn planet 17:36 < SpookyCrisp> vinrock, kek 17:37 < Hatter> vinrock: love was the 5th Element according to a popular film 17:37 < vinrock> oh shit 17:37 < vinrock> thats right 17:37 < grumplestiltzkin> what is 5th element, baby dont hurt me, dont hurt me, no more 17:37 < corn266> It's earth wind and fire not earth wind fire heart love ffs 17:38 < grumplestiltzkin> boop, done, bought the auction. I just need to get it done 17:38 < ebol4> fuck love. am i right fellas 17:38 < vinrock> the kid meant to say 'love' but said 'heart' instead because he's ESL 17:38 < steevo> corn266, what about bear? 17:38 < grumplestiltzkin> corn266: water? 17:38 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking hell, why the fuck are these useless shits sending me Macs to work on at home 17:38 <+TuxedoJack> I don't want to have to set up a fucking Mac homelab 17:39 < vinrock> ew 17:39 < ebol4> sell them on ebay 17:39 <+TuxedoJack> Worthless fucking gobshites 17:39 < corn266> ffs my boss can't even get my title right when cc'ing me on emails 17:40 < ebol4> "cc'ing our computer man, corn" 17:40 < abakedapplepie> is anyone familiar with printers and terminal services and server 2012 17:40 < grumplestiltzkin> that's your superhero name now 17:40 < steevo> abakedapplepie, fuck printers 17:40 < abakedapplepie> my users keep losing their default printer 17:40 < abakedapplepie> and it is fucking a lot of shit up 17:40 < corn266> how even 17:40 < abakedapplepie> because old shitty ERPs dont like using modern printer paradigms 17:41 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: is your functional level at least 2012? 17:41 < abakedapplepie> haha, no 17:41 < abakedapplepie> but also on their old server im pretty sure this wasnt the case 17:41 < abakedapplepie> same os 17:41 < abakedapplepie> the other oddity is that printer defaults dont appear to be applying to all users 17:42 < abakedapplepie> i have to manually go into their profile and upload the label printer settings 17:42 < abakedapplepie> for every user that uses that stupid printer 17:42 < abakedapplepie> which also, as far as i remember, wasnt the caseon the old server 17:42 < grumplestiltzkin> is the it just changing/losing the default, or is the pronter going missing? 17:42 < abakedapplepie> changing default for the default printer issue 17:42 < abakedapplepie> the printer preferences stay once they are set 17:42 < abakedapplepie> but they have to be set for each user individually 17:43 < hxcsp> going to call all printers pronters now 17:43 < abakedapplepie> this erp's reports uses the default printer's printing preferences for page settings 17:43 < abakedapplepie> so you can see how this can be a problem 17:43 < SynMonger> how else does one get hard copies of pr0n 17:44 < grumplestiltzkin> SynMonger: 3d printer 17:44 < abakedapplepie> people are printing 4" wide reports on 8.5" wide paper stock, and vice versa 17:44 < vinrock> abakedapplepie: RUNDLL32 PRINTUI.DLL,PrintUIEntry /y /n "PRINTER_NAME" 17:44 < abakedapplepie> what does that do 17:44 < int0x1C8> god, that shit is so annoying 17:44 < vinrock> just exec that on the remote host any time they lose the default 17:44 < vinrock> sets default printer 17:44 < abakedapplepie> its a terminal server 17:44 < vinrock> oh 17:44 < vinrock> womp womp 17:44 < abakedapplepie> these are per user settings 17:44 < abakedapplepie> :| 17:45 < int0x1C8> our store rings me all the time like 'our receipts are printing out of the laser printer and our invoices are going to the receipt printer' 17:45 < vinrock> ive got a weird issue with out transportation management system rite now where bill of ladings that are supposed to come out of a dot matrix printer onto carbon paper randomly come out of the bigass canon mfc 17:46 < vinrock> everything is fine n dandy then all of a sudden, form decides to choose a different print destination 17:46 < vinrock> dafuq 17:49 < grumplestiltzkin> like, how long ago did it start (did it coincide with any other events) 17:50 < Hempux> Hey folks 17:51 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: i have a separate issue like that that is driving me nuts... a separate program keeps randomly dumping reports to their main ERP's paperless office printer 17:51 < abakedapplepie> which breaks the paperless office completely 17:51 < abakedapplepie> every time it happens we lose a couple days worth of invoices 17:51 < abakedapplepie> drives me bonkers 17:53 <+A-KO> god GDPR is such a shit show 17:53 <@ravioli> hi Hempux 17:54 < alazare619> anyone know of a command to add a user to a pc (local) remotely 17:54 < hlavender> sudo adduser 17:54 < scwizard> fuck today 17:54 < alazare619> i was thinking net user add but idk how to specify if the user is a admin or not 17:54 < hlavender> :^) 17:54 < scwizard> not my week :( 17:54 < scwizard> woke up late, so AWS support called while i was in the shower 17:54 < giant_it_burrit> alazare619: via powershell?? 17:55 < giant_it_burrit> do they need local admin? 17:55 < scwizard> then there was a crazy lady casuing the scene on the bus so i got to work super late instead of late 17:55 < giant_it_burrit> you could use the mmc to add luser.msc 17:55 < alazare619> not just powershell 17:55 < alazare619> and yes needs admin 17:55 < hlavender> scwizard: public transport is a meme in 2018, too many freaks about 17:55 < alazare619> i have about 100 machines 17:55 < Trapdoor> fuck 17:55 < alazare619> dont wana have to do mmc if i dont have to 17:55 < Trapdoor> all of this 17:55 < scwizard> hlavender: i don't have a drivers license 17:55 < scwizard> i'm so bad at life 17:55 < hlavender> get one, i absolutely hate public transport 17:55 < giant_it_burrit> could do laps 17:55 < giant_it_burrit> or ansible 17:55 < giant_it_burrit> or a gpo script push 17:56 < scwizard> hlavender: driving school is so expensive 17:56 <+A-KO> alazare619: on Windows? It's 2 commands...net add localgroup I think 17:56 < estranger> uber all the things 17:56 < hlavender> especially in england, theres always some drunk crackhead idiot fucking everything up 17:56 < alazare619> thats the command i was forgetting net localgroup 17:56 < scwizard> hlavender: austin isn't as bad as there 17:56 < alazare619> the group already exists 17:56 < alazare619> just not the user so need to add the user to the group 17:56 < scwizard> well hopefully this week 17:56 < estranger> i take the train downtown, thats the onl public transport i typically take... oh and airplanes 17:56 < scwizard> i can do work such that i don't have weekend work 17:56 < hlavender> a few days ago i witnessed a drunk guy try and hold up an ambulance in the middle of the road armed with just his bare fists 17:56 < hlavender> it didnt work 17:57 <+A-KO> alazare619: net localgroup Administrators User /Add 17:57 < scwizard> i'm pretty emergency vehicles are literally allowed to hit people 17:57 < hlavender> he had one leg too 17:57 < hlavender> hard times 17:57 < grumplestiltzkin> Did buzzfeed always pretend to be a news source? I thought they used to just do idle/funny stuff 17:57 < scwizard> at least cops i know get training on the procedure to whack people with their cars 17:57 <+A-KO> alazare619: you can read this with net help localgroup 17:57 < scwizard> grumplestiltzkin: someone leaked some papers to them and now they want to be real news 17:57 < hlavender> grumplestiltzkin: buzzfeed just make up BS to generate ad revenue 17:58 < admiralspark> man 17:58 < hlavender> 27 ways you've been using toothpaste incorrectly, you won't believe number 83! 17:58 < alazare619> yep thanks A-KO been so long since i had to deal with any kind of local sec stuff lmao 17:58 < admiralspark> can't you guys give like a 5 second timer before booting to quarantine? cryptic1 17:58 < scwizard> what's kinda sad though 17:59 < alazare619> sold these machines off to another company that will still work inside of our company 17:59 <@cryptic1> admiralspark, thats not how freenode works 17:59 < scwizard> is that I need to defend the New York Time's integrity to conservative people i know 17:59 < alazare619> so giving them local admin rights to the pc's but no domain account 17:59 <+A-KO> you guys know the best feeling in the world? 17:59 <+A-KO> FRESH. NEW. SOCKS. 17:59 < scwizard> i don't care if it's biased, it's good journalism 17:59 < admiralspark> cryptic1: oh, thought you were using a bot to boot 17:59 < estranger> dude I love socks 17:59 <@cryptic1> no 17:59 <@cryptic1> its a channel mode 17:59 < hlavender> fresh sheets are better 17:59 < alazare619> A-KO: are they bifl socks? 17:59 < admiralspark> I'll go tweak my client config then and see if I can beat it 17:59 < scwizard> ok now lets bring fargate into production kinda 17:59 < estranger> i just like having socks to match my shirts 18:00 <@ravioli> AnimalFarmPig: your client should have a settable delay time between connecting and joining channels 18:00 <@ravioli> er... 18:00 <@ravioli> admiralspark: ^^ 18:00 < corn266> A-KO: crawling into fresh sheets after a shower? 18:00 < ekaj> i think most of today is gonna be closing tickets, so that blows 18:00 < Hempux> So i've decided to start fiddling with PHP, wich one is the best free IDE with intellisense? 18:01 < admiralspark> ravioli: yeah, that's what I'm looking for now :) 18:01 < admiralspark> or a programmable delay when I pop on freenode 18:01 <+A-KO> Hempux: VS Code 18:01 < grumplestiltzkin> scwizard: IIRC if it is biased, it isn't journalism, its called editorial or opinion piece, 'op-ed' 18:01 <+A-KO> Hempux: VSCode is like one of the best code editor platforms out there atm 18:02 < Hempux> Thanks A-KO 18:03 < corn266> Yes firefox I want to open a 4GB ISO with a text editor 18:04 < admiralspark> corn266: edit the bytes baby 18:04 <+A-KO> Hempux: look for plugins in vs code to help do what you want 18:04 <+A-KO> there's a whole plugin marketplace available in the editor 18:05 <+A-KO> https://imgur.com/a/DoeU5fR < the nerdiest shirt in the world 18:05 < corn266> admiralspark: is this how to modify a kernel? 18:05 < felda> update to the server room bomb 18:06 < felda> Update #8: 17:33 CET 18:06 < felda> Got my phone back, I have been through a police investigation about what I was doing in that place and so on. We have been thanked for acting like we did. It was an active anti tank missile, bomb squad was not authorized to manipulate with it, military bomb squad had to be called, it is beeing transported to a nerby military area where they are going to detonate it. I could get any more info about it being wired or how did it even get there but 18:06 < felda> hopefully will be able to get some more info from an owner of that factory, will keep you updated. There is an strict embargo about it we can't talk to press or anybody so I hope this will be ok since I did not mention anything too specific. 18:06 <+A-KO> crazy 18:06 < estranger> holy shit @ GCP's n1-ultramem-160 instance type. 160 vCPU with 3844GB RAM 18:06 <+A-KO> now that's a nice server lol 18:07 < Hempux> A-KO, Nice shirt 18:07 < steevo> I know this is going backwards, but scwizard, biased journalism is _not_ good journalism by definition 18:08 < scwizard> everyone is biased 18:08 < steevo> scwizard, that is correct, but journists should try to write as un-biased as possible 18:08 < scwizard> sure bias isn't so great, but the most important thing is to get the facts right 18:08 < abakedapplepie> dont bias my bias 18:08 < scwizard> and do investigative work 18:08 < scwizard> which the new york tim sdoes 18:08 < scwizard> and they make an effort to reach out to the other side too 18:08 < steevo> scwizard, spinning the facts to fit your narritive isn't getting the factrs right 18:08 < admiralspark> corn266: "recompile" is just renaming it to .iso from .txt bruh 18:08 < scwizard> as i said 18:09 < scwizard> it's sad that I need to defend the nyt to conserviative ppl 18:09 < scwizard> i voted trump sure but I still respect the new york times 18:09 < steevo> scwizard, but nyt dosn't get the facts right, as a whole 18:09 < scwizard> they really do 18:09 < grumplestiltzkin> It's sad that nyt is considered a 'newspaper of record' with how biased they are 18:10 < scwizard> anyways this is probably too politics for this channel 18:10 < scwizard> i gotta work anyway 18:10 < kuahara> I need help with a Windows VPN issue. This group is using SBS 2011 (not sure that's relevant) and has everything forwarded to the inside server. The error on connect is 812, says the connection was prevented due to policy on ras/vpn server; specifically the authentication method used by the server didn't match what I was using. 18:10 < kuahara> I edited the server properties in rras and set it to use only chap2 and my outgoing connection also only allows for chap2, but this error persists 18:10 < kuahara> any ideas? 18:10 <+A-KO> no idea :/ 18:10 <+A-KO> bbl folks 18:10 < admiralspark> kuahara: that's a generic message. What kind of VPN? 18:10 < admiralspark> IPSEC, L2TP, SSTP, Always-On, DirectAccess, PPTP? 18:10 < kuahara> They're using PPTP. insecure, I know. they're using it anyway. 18:11 < admiralspark> Windows 10 clients? 18:11 < kuahara> 7 18:11 < kuahara> and the server is SBS2011 18:11 < admiralspark> has it worked before? 18:11 < MillerBOSS> >Contact your administrator 18:11 < MillerBOSS> ;) 18:11 < admiralspark> lol 18:12 < admiralspark> kuahara: did it stop working in the last couple months? 18:12 < kuahara> never. Their onsite IT told me he'd forwarded PPTP to the inside server, but he hadn't. All he did was open 1723 on the sonicwall. That said, I corrected that problem and traffic is making it to the SBS now. 18:12 < MillerBOSS> Reboot server? 18:12 < kuahara> can't do that between 8 and 5 18:12 < admiralspark> okay so, you have the opportunity to build the vpn correctly because it was never set up in the first place, but you're leaving pptp instead? 18:12 < MillerBOSS> Don't listen to me. I am the cowboy IT 18:12 < kuahara> and this doesn't usually require a server reboot anyway 18:13 < hlavender> MS VPN is shite! 18:13 < admiralspark> pptp likely won't work if you're keeping up with client patching 18:13 < hlavender> authentication methods love changing on their own 18:13 < admiralspark> hlavender: you just need to specify them in the profile man 18:13 < kuahara> admiralspark normally, I'd have sonicwall setup and configure L2TP/IPSec, but they are using a NSA240 without a support contract (just to make things more interesting) 18:13 < hlavender> I have a few clients where MSchap will disable its self 18:13 < hlavender> pretty gr8 18:14 < kuahara> I hear a lot about setting up better/safer VPN, but it usually results in hours of me trying to set it up and users never being able to connect. The wonderful thing about PPTP (if there is a wonderful thing) is that it usually just works. 18:14 < kuahara> I've never successfully made SSTP work and not for lack of trying. 18:15 < kuahara> I've made PPTP work hundreds of times because it's usually really easy. Not that I prefer PPTP; it just gets me paid for delivering a solution that works. 18:17 < PrincessZoey> guys, How much should I ask for a 1+ year cloud engineer contract job? 18:17 < MillerBOSS> uhh 18:18 < ebol4> location 18:18 <@ravioli> more than $100 18:18 < abakedapplepie> 500k 18:18 < SynMonger> all the candy in candy mountain 18:18 < MillerBOSS> Its a trap 18:18 < giant_it_burrit> Tree fiddy 18:18 < Hempux> A-KO, i thought object-based PHP has 'clicked' for me but this is not going well at all. I wish i could do this in c# 18:18 < estranger> PrincessZoey, $120k+ 18:18 < giant_it_burrit> Do it in js 18:18 < abakedapplepie> Hempux what are you doing 18:19 < SynMonger> get outta heah loch ness monssah! 18:19 < admiralspark> kuahara: oof, rough. So, long story short, that error is what MSFT puts for any issues. I promise you now that SSTP works flawlessly currently, you just need a signed trusted cert; we use letsencrypt and rotate it every 80 days or so 18:19 < giant_it_burrit> How about just two fiddy 18:19 < Hempux> abakedapplepie, Basically i just opened vs code for the first time to fiddle a bit with PHP 18:19 < MillerBOSS> Its a trap, GUYS!! 18:20 < Hempux> abakedapplepie, but c# syntax doesn't even work :p 18:20 < abakedapplepie> oh 18:20 < abakedapplepie> lol 18:20 < abakedapplepie> yeah that makes sense 18:20 < tapoxi> PrincessZoey: where at and what level cloud engineer 18:20 < PrincessZoey> memphis 18:20 < ebol4> 95k 18:20 < giant_it_burrit> Walking in Memphis 18:20 < tapoxi> PrincessZoey: 100k? check the area 18:21 < ebol4> also consider the emotional toll of living in tennessee 18:21 < tapoxi> PrincessZoey: 130ish is typical for senior in big cities, smaller I could see 100k 18:21 <@ravioli> lol 18:21 < PrincessZoey> Exciting and long term opportunity for a Cloud Engineer. The Cloud Engineer will support their growing cloud infrastructure. 18:21 < estranger> oh i dunno memphis .. in your current area it should be like 120-150k id say 18:21 < JFDkthx> fuuuuuuuuuuuck mondays 18:21 < DomLS3> Whose in Memphis? 18:21 < JFDkthx> DomLS3: knows about memphis 18:21 < estranger> 120k is only $60/hr.. kinda cheap for a consult really 18:21 < DomLS3> Get out my town 18:21 < rpifan> gimme 18:22 < PrincessZoey> DomLS3: my fiancee and thereby me :P 18:22 < giant_it_burrit> What cloud 18:22 < DomLS3> PrincessZoey: orly? 18:22 < SynMonger> DomLS3: how are you still alive? 18:22 < DomLS3> Didn't know that 18:22 < DomLS3> SynMonger: Idk but I feel like my time is coming 18:22 < JFDkthx> SynMonger: he lives on snowflake tears 18:22 < DomLS3> ^^ 18:22 < DomLS3> We weeded out the main snowflakes in here so I don't have much fuel these days anymore 18:22 < MillerBOSS> Note to self. Change name to girl's name and everyone will give you attention. 18:23 < JFDkthx> MillerBOSS: where the fukkin bot 18:23 < SynMonger> MillerBOSSette 18:23 < JFDkthx> i'll give you all sorts of attention 18:23 < DomLS3> PrincessZoey: There's only room for 1 of us sysadmins in Memphis 18:23 < DomLS3> get out 18:23 < DomLS3> JFDkthx: The bot got rekkt like over a week ago 18:23 < PrincessZoey> giant_it_burrit: AWS 18:23 < MillerBOSS> Wait let me rephrase that. 18:23 < MillerBOSS> Note to self. When you are a guy, change name to girl's name and everyone will give you attention. 18:24 < MillerBOSS> JFDkthx 👉 Right there layer-eight 18:25 < ebol4> mileenaboss 18:26 < MillerBOSS> Perfect 18:27 < estranger> SNOWFLAKE DATALAKE 18:28 < MillerBOSS> SNOWFLAKE DATALAKES 18:29 < JollyRgrs> MillerBOSS: pls don't start that shit 18:29 < MillerBOSS> What shit JollyRgrs? 18:29 < MillerBOSS> Feel free to PM me if you have issues with me. :) 18:30 < JollyRgrs> changing name to girls name, etc 18:30 < DomLS3> I actually am a girl so am I allowed to do that? 18:30 < MillerBOSS> You don't want me to change my name to a girl's name? 18:30 < JollyRgrs> i don't care what you do 18:30 < JollyRgrs> just stop making it an issue 18:30 < DomLS3> MillerBOSSette 18:30 < MillerBOSS> Lol what 18:31 < DomLS3> someone pissed in JollyRgrs cereal this morning 18:31 < SynMonger> sorry 18:31 < JollyRgrs> DomLS3: no, just don't wanna deal with a fwe weeks ago all over again 18:31 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs: What did I miss? 18:31 < MillerBOSS> Did I miss something? But I want to be a girl 18:31 < JollyRgrs> nothing important 18:31 < DomLS3> Important enough to not want to deal with again 18:32 < DomLS3> which is important for me to know 18:32 < JFDkthx> holy shit, the new user security training pc is in my office. and there is someone taking the training 18:32 < JFDkthx> and is actually watching the videos 18:32 < JFDkthx> instead of clicking through 18:32 < JFDkthx> i need to disable the sound device 18:32 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: haha... i always just click through and hope i score high enough 18:33 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: like any fucking intelligent person would do 18:33 < JFDkthx> im gonna smash a mug over this guys head 18:34 < Hempux> abakedapplepie, screw the whole thing 18:36 < abakedapplepie> lol 18:36 < int0x1C8> JFDkthx, he probably has a shitty job 18:37 < int0x1C8> '~30 mins of watching stupid videos and clicking instead of doing what I normally do? hell yeah' 18:37 < JFDkthx> int0x1C8: i dont care how much time he wastes 18:37 < JFDkthx> just fucking dont play the sound 18:38 < SpeakerToMeat> is iproute2 and tc still the way to do shaping? 18:38 < giant_it_burrit> JFDkthx: you have a special pc? 18:39 < JFDkthx> the help desk lady sits in our office, anytime someones account gets disabled for not completing training she has to reenable it and they have to do the training on the spot. 18:39 < JFDkthx> so there is a pc in the office just for that 18:39 < JFDkthx> im disabling the sound device as soon as this guy leaves 18:39 < JFDkthx> or ripping out the pc speaker. 18:39 < JollyRgrs> lol 18:39 < JFDkthx> one of the two. 18:39 < JollyRgrs> but is there a person talking on the videos? 18:39 < int0x1C8> do it now, remotely 18:39 < JFDkthx> yes 18:39 < JollyRgrs> if so, you can't rip it out, HR and training would be upset 18:39 < grumplestiltzkin> wait for that trouble ticket about no sound on the training machine 18:40 < JollyRgrs> jsut turn volume down 18:40 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: dont care. 18:40 < JFDkthx> nope 18:40 < int0x1C8> say its a test and he just got hacked 18:40 < JFDkthx> disabling the device 18:40 < JollyRgrs> int0x1C8: haha 18:40 < hxcsp> its in your office? 18:40 < hxcsp> jsut give them the answers 18:40 < JFDkthx> yeah 18:40 < JFDkthx> no 18:40 < hxcsp> lol 18:40 < JFDkthx> i have better things to do 18:40 < aName> For some reason, none of the stores on instacart will sell me actual cough medicine 18:40 < hxcsp> like listen to the video right? 18:40 < hxcsp> :P 18:41 < aName> Which means I get to go get a bunch of other people sick in the process of getting it 18:41 < JFDkthx> like bitch about the injustice of having to listening to training when i specifically skip it everytime i take it 18:41 < aName> >.< 18:41 < SpeakerToMeat> why not damage the speakers and request a pair of headphones 18:41 < JFDkthx> SpeakerToMeat: too much effort 18:41 < JFDkthx> im just disabling the device 18:41 < JFDkthx> they can read CC from now on. 18:41 < int0x1C8> aName, you just want to robotrip don't you 18:41 < aName> lol 18:42 < aName> int0x1C8: Ugh, no, what am I, fifteen? 18:42 < JFDkthx> 16? 18:42 < int0x1C8> iunno, are you? 18:42 < aName> int0x1C8: No, I'm 33, heh 18:42 < JFDkthx> underage B& 18:42 < aName> int0x1C8: I can afford real drugs 18:42 < Heresiarch> Anyone in here played with ansible 2.5.x yet? 18:42 < admiralspark> DAE bombs in the server room? 18:42 < aName> admiralspark: Saw that too 18:42 < admiralspark> did you see the dozen reposts too? :P 18:42 < Stoob> who doesn't 18:43 < vavkamil> ping 18:43 < admiralspark> pong 18:43 < aName> int0x1C8: That's probably why, though - no age verification 18:43 < abakedapplepie> > they can read CC from now on. 18:43 < aName> int0x1C8: not that I've ever been asked for ID 18:43 < abakedapplepie> lol htats brutal 18:43 < abakedapplepie> if youre talking about youtube CCs 18:43 < abakedapplepie> theyre awful 18:43 < Stoob> what better place to store a bomb than behind a properly secured server room 18:44 < abakedapplepie> also JFDkthx if you didnt want to go the BOFH route you could use this script to change audio levels https://superuser.com/questions/984459/windows-10-registry-setting-for-volume-control 18:44 < admiralspark> so secure even the sysadmin didn't go inside 18:44 < admiralspark> s/didn't/couldn't 18:44 < int0x1C8> first it was sudafed, then cough syrup, STOP TRYING TO BAN SHIT THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER WHEN YOU HAVE A COLD 18:44 < abakedapplepie> int0x1C8 but the kids can make ecstacy with it 18:44 < abakedapplepie> think of the kids 18:44 < aName> abakedapplepie: Close, but no cigar 18:44 < int0x1C8> I'm not jerkin it right now 18:45 < int0x1C8> I'll just have a seat over here 18:45 < aName> And truthfully, if your kid is intelligent enough to synthesize their own drugs, I say let 'em lol 18:45 < giant_it_burrit> fucking kids 18:45 < giant_it_burrit> ruining shit for adults 18:45 < giant_it_burrit> then crying when people disagree 18:46 < int0x1C8> that is what kids do 18:46 < JollyRgrs> nah.. when they took claritin D 24-hr from Rx to OTC, that ruined it for me 18:46 < JollyRgrs> used to be dirt cheap w/ Rx and medical insurance 18:46 < JollyRgrs> and got 100 ct bottles 18:46 < grumplestiltzkin> The one year I went and actually lived at college, a roomate was a bigtime pot smocker - he and his clever pot smocker friends faked company letterhead to request pure DXM, and just put it in capsules to robotrip instead of having to chug a bottle. They all got kicked out of the dorm for it, but not expelled 18:46 < JollyRgrs> now I can't even buy that much at once, let alone afford that much at once 18:46 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: that leaves it open for them to change the volume level. 18:46 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: lol faking company letterhead, you can just buy it 18:46 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: It's not controlled 18:47 < int0x1C8> oh man, I need to go smock some pot 18:47 < aName> int0x1C8: Yeah, I like the ones with 'KISS THE CHEF' on them 18:47 < grumplestiltzkin> aName: right, this was in ehh 1999 iirc. 18:47 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: Ah 18:48 < abakedapplepie> JFDkthx: thats why you make a scheduled task run every second to reset it 18:48 < abakedapplepie> xD 18:48 < JFDkthx> aha 18:48 < aName> That's when you get a ticket for 'volume too low, won't stay up' 18:48 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: and a script that, if it detects it was changed by user... randomizes the volume level and interval for the next 10 minutes 18:48 < aName> Although our UAT test group for 'we reboot your machine every night, fuck you' has had surprisingly little pushback 18:48 < JollyRgrs> aName: viagra. ticket closed 18:49 < JollyRgrs> aName: why in the world would you do that? 18:49 < JollyRgrs> is your desktop environment THAT BAD? 18:49 < aName> JollyRgrs: Because they have floating seating, and they don't log themselves off, which causes issues in the call recording software for QA 18:49 < JollyRgrs> like 12 yr old hardware on XP running 5 java apps all with memory leaks? 18:50 < aName> JollyRgrs: Naw, it's just that we don't want them logged in at multiple PCs, and AD has no good way of enforcing that 18:50 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: dont lie, even current gen java apps have memleaks 18:50 < JollyRgrs> floating seating? so how about turn off fast user switching and a task when idle for x time... run logoff as user? 18:50 < JFDkthx> god 18:50 < JFDkthx> i hate this guy 18:50 < JFDkthx> so much 18:50 < int0x1C8> do you have rubber bands? 18:51 < JFDkthx> the videos have some faux alex jones guy 18:51 < JFDkthx> that just yells about conspiracies 18:51 < SynMonger> BAD PASSWORDS MAKE THE FROGS GAY 18:51 < aName> JollyRgrs: Well, the service that sends the desktop's video to the call recording server crashes a lot - it's honestly just easier to reboot everyone every night. It's an inelegant solution, sure. 18:51 < JFDkthx> IM TIRED OF THEM PUTTING PASSWORDS IN THE FIELDS THAT TURN THE FRIGGIN DOMAIN INSECURE 18:51 < grumplestiltzkin> JFDkthx: lolwat wtf kind of training involves that? 18:51 < JollyRgrs> ok, so if you have janky software... that makes sense 18:52 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: "SECURITY? 18:52 < JFDkthx> " 18:52 < JFDkthx> fuck man 18:52 < JFDkthx> it's so nuagey 18:52 < JFDkthx> nu-agey 18:52 < ebol4> nouget 18:52 < grumplestiltzkin> sensiblechuckle.gif 18:52 < aName> JollyRgrs: Janky, expensive software 18:52 < JollyRgrs> aName: the worst kind of janky 18:52 < catbeard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOz0bKxPKpw 18:52 < aName> JollyRgrs: For which there is no viable alternative 18:52 < catbeard> the name of this thing 18:52 < catbeard> lol 18:53 < aName> JollyRgrs: There is software that does similar things, but not muxed with the audio from our 90's era phone system 18:53 < int0x1C8> pretty sure we used Fagot/Faggot as a code name for a soviet fighter 18:53 < grumplestiltzkin> fageaux 18:53 < JollyRgrs> catbeard: as in bundle of sticks? 18:53 < JFDkthx> now there is some 80s car chase going on 18:54 < catbeard> they walk by you're like sup fagot 18:54 < JFDkthx> i can tell by the music and tires screeching 18:54 < int0x1C8> JFDkthx, start shooting rubber bands at him and the speakers, he'll get it eventually 18:54 < JFDkthx> no. 18:54 < JFDkthx> im going to passive aggressively comment on fucking night rider. 18:55 < aName> I love how they have these warnings like 'RT is funded by the russian government' 18:55 < aName> You don't see those for other outlets 18:55 < JFDkthx> aName: i like my communist roosterteeth 18:56 < aName> Like... they're not making an outright judgement, they're just telling you - but at the same time, they're sort of implying it's a bad thing by telling you when they don't tell you about all of the funding other channels get 18:58 < int0x1C8> well I think the difference is in the state-funded aspect 19:01 < SynMonger> there's a word for government funded news 19:02 < SleePy> Oh geez, self signed cert on a public website (for lenovo thin client management) 19:02 <@ravioli> pci compliance 19:04 < SleePy> Sad thing is, the self signed cert is 2 years old and not expired yet :\ 19:04 < admiralspark> SleePy: lenovo probably trusts that CA in their factory images tho ;) 19:05 < SleePy> But is the licensing registration site :\ Not used by the clients themselves 19:05 < admiralspark> oh god 19:05 < SleePy> https://swact.vxl.net/ltmlicense 19:06 < SleePy> I'm guessing not to many people use their management software then. It sounded nice to have for the thin clients we have now. 19:07 <+TuxedoJack> Hmm. Is having a laptop that boots to WinPE unless you interrupt the boot order, then tell it to go to a full-disk-encrypted (with preboot encryption enabled) drive paranoid? 19:08 < Hempux> TuxedoJack, Its not if they're out to get your data 19:08 <+TuxedoJack> Hempux: doubt they are, but it's more of a lolwut thing 19:08 < catbeard> just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you 19:09 <+TuxedoJack> There's a 16GB SSD in my laptop that has TuxPE 10 on it. The real SSDs are removed from the boot order unless manually selected 19:09 <+TuxedoJack> Basically, kiosk mode 19:10 < catbeard> just run your OS in RAM, and then memtest86 boss key 19:10 <+TuxedoJack> TuxPE can't read them, since they're full disk encrypted and there's no WinPE plugin for that software 19:10 < felda> CMOS battery died, but I don't have any extras 19:10 < felda> guess I get to manually set the time for now 19:10 <+TuxedoJack> It's no duress key, but it'll work 19:11 < catbeard> it's free real estate 19:12 <+TuxedoJack> Meanwhile, there's a 16GB RAMdisk in there too. Heh 19:12 <+TuxedoJack> Since the laptop has 32GB RAM and TuxPE chews up half for a RAMdisk 19:12 < catbeard> or invert the syscall for read ops on the drive firmware, so the write blocker destroys the evidence under authorities chain of custody 19:12 <+TuxedoJack> ... wut 19:12 < catbeard> i mean... 19:12 < catbeard> carry on 19:14 < felda> has anyone actually gotten those Micro SD to SD card adapters to actually work? 19:15 < catbeard> how many times did you try to install pfsense on it already, maybe it's just getting tired of it 19:15 < ebol4> i don't think i've ever had one not work 19:15 < ebol4> it's literally just connecting the pins together 19:15 < ebol4> pads 19:15 < felda> nah user wants to drop all their pictures from their phone to their laptop 19:15 < felda> tried different SD card adapters and different laptops too 19:16 < ebol4> i would just use usb 19:16 < catbeard> Photos app on Windows 10 - USB in MTP mode 19:16 < catbeard> or AirDroid 19:16 < catbeard> or bluetooth 19:16 < ebol4> not sure, but android might format the sd card in like ext or something? 19:16 < ebol4> instead of fat 19:16 < ebol4> but probably not 19:16 < felda> I don't think so because I've done it before with no issue 19:17 < felda> we used to have a SD card to USB device but it got lost or stolen :( 19:17 < ebol4> can't you just plug the phone into the pc 19:18 < felda> the phone has a newer SD card in it 19:19 < catbeard> windows recognizes ext2 doesn't it? might be ext4 tho 19:19 < ebol4> it didn't used to, but maybe they added that in 10 or something 19:19 < catbeard> that's usually why you MTP mode so the android does the mounting 19:20 < catbeard> or just use a handy dandy... SFTP client 19:20 < catbeard> because they're WHOSE TOOTH? BLUE'S TOOTH! 19:21 < ebol4> or just.... plug the phone into the computer 19:21 < catbeard> ebol4: what if you're not at your computer 19:21 < ebol4> then what are you doing with the phone 19:21 < int0x1C8> the obvious solution is to email all the pics to yourself 19:21 < catbeard> spotify and whatsapp 19:21 < catbeard> ya with broken PGP 19:21 < JollyRgrs> TuxedoJack: when did you ake tuxpe so bloated it needs 16GB of ramdisk? 19:22 < JollyRgrs> good gaw y'all 19:23 < int0x1C8> its all his sonic fanfics he needs instant access to 19:26 < giant_it_burrit> gotta go fast 19:26 < poquito> pwd 19:26 < giant_it_burrit> if you get my jist 19:27 < Church-> Lol 19:27 <@ravioli> giant_it_burrit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee4YyxmOAQ4 19:27 < Church-> Binging with Babish is gonna kill me. 19:28 < ebol4> i can't watch binging with babish anymore, he gets on my nerves 19:29 < ekaj> where in MS AD DNS can I delete records for sites? 19:29 < ekaj> i.e. shit.com 19:29 <@Code_Man65> In the server cache 19:29 <+TuxedoJack> JollyRgrs: It takes half of what's in there as a scratch space / RAMdisk, and my laptop has 32GB of RAM 19:30 < Church-> ebol4: Why? 19:30 < ekaj> Code_Man65: just ipconfig /flushdns? 19:30 <+TuxedoJack> TuxPE still fits in 1GB 19:30 < JollyRgrs> TuxedoJack: ah 19:30 < ebol4> Church-: he sounds like an asshole 19:31 <@Code_Man65> No 19:31 < Church-> Fair enough, sounds fine to me. 19:31 <+TuxedoJack> Working with a lizard perched on the top of my head is amusing 19:31 <@Code_Man65> ekaj: Go into dnsmgmt and then click view -> Advanced 19:31 < Church-> Heh 19:31 <@Code_Man65> You'll see Cached Lookups show up 19:31 < Church-> TuxedoJack: Are you secretly a dragon? 19:32 < dragonfleas> I love the BRRRT sound from the A-10 jet 19:32 < dragonfleas> it's such a satisfying sound 19:32 < DomLS3> pfsense 19:33 < dragonfleas> lol 19:33 < ekaj> it keeps pointing various microsoft sites to 127.0.0.1... 19:33 < admiralspark> DomLS3: he's not here is he? 19:33 < admiralspark> felda? 19:33 < DomLS3> esnfesp 19:33 < DomLS3> Code_man65 GOT YOU 19:33 < DomLS3> IT WAS MISPELLED 19:33 < DomLS3> YOU LOSE 19:33 < JollyRgrs> relt 19:33 < DomLS3> kick me all you want 19:33 < DomLS3> you got got 19:33 < DomLS3> biatch 19:33 < dragonfleas> rekt 19:34 < JollyRgrs> i was about to kick you b/c now whenever felda gets kicked for pfsense, DomLS3 gets kicked 19:34 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs: wat 19:34 < DomLS3> no 19:34 < DomLS3> it's when pfsense is spelled backwards that I get kicked 19:34 < felda> thankies 19:34 < dragonfleas> does anyone here actually use pfsense? 19:34 < felda> DomLS3 is probably as bad as linuxdood at this point 19:34 < cantibot> Holy fuck 19:34 < cantibot> what just happened 19:34 < cantibot> I look over and my screen is so colorful! 19:34 < cantibot> lol 19:35 < felda> cantibot domls3 is trying to make a funny 19:35 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: I unironically run it at home for meshing my cloud stuff to my homelab 19:35 < grumplestiltzkin> modifications to the pfsense policy, looks like 19:35 < cantibot> dom? funny? 19:35 < admiralspark> have a netgate appliance and everything 19:35 < cantibot> THAT'S funny! XD 19:35 < DomLS3> ty 19:35 < cantibot> dude, fortinet for the fucking WIN 19:35 < DomLS3> ah hem. FELDA is a weeb 19:35 < cantibot> felda is a pfsense cuck 19:35 < dragonfleas> cryptic1backto.work 19:36 < cantibot> rav are you an admin in here? 19:36 < cantibot> or just k12? 19:36 < admiralspark> cantibot: agreed, FortiOS is the shit 19:36 < int0x1C8> cryptic1.BackTo(Work); 19:36 < cantibot> dude, I have the BOMBEST fortinet setup 19:36 < Casteil> I've been drafting an email to our company owner for like the last 3 hours >.> 19:36 < DomLS3> bombest.... 19:36 < cantibot> It's actually hosted at our ISP about an hour away 19:36 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: back to work 19:36 <@Code_Man65> itsthebomb.com? 19:36 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: back to work 19:36 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: back to work 19:36 <@ravioli> whenever i read fortinet i misread it as fortnite 19:36 < DomLS3> Abuse_Man65.com 19:36 <@cryptic1> D: 19:36 < cantibot> with a 40gb hose plugged into it 19:37 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: you got that fork knife net setup yet? 19:37 <@Code_Man65> Only 40Gbe? 19:37 <@Code_Man65> Bah, should be 100GbE 19:37 < felda> cryptic1 pls send assist I am being affronted by many degenerates in this channel 19:37 < cantibot> dude, 40gb to the INTERNET 19:37 <@Code_Man65> Not fast enough 19:37 < cantibot> like, staight to huricane and cogent 19:37 <@Code_Man65> It is only fast enough if you can send data faster than akami can take it 19:37 < cantibot> HURRIDURRICANE ELUUCTRICK! 19:37 < JollyRgrs> pfft, i got 1gbgbe 19:37 < Heresiarch> cogent doesn't count. You'd never even get 10Gbit through them. XD 19:37 < cantibot> I am hooked directly to our state IX 19:38 < cantibot> https://www.micemn.net/ 19:38 < cantibot> FUCK CHICAGO! 19:38 < JollyRgrs> micemen.com? 19:38 < cantibot> lol 19:38 < ebol4> my favorite website 19:38 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: ikr? 19:39 < felda> cantibot just get comcast duh 19:40 < cantibot> Mediacom is our last mile :/ 19:40 < felda> oof 19:40 < cantibot> it's MPLS fiber tho so it's kinda hard to fuck that up 19:40 < felda> I actually get my internet from a telecommunications cooperative 19:40 < cantibot> ...except when they put the wrong transciever 19:40 < cantibot> felda same! 19:40 < felda> fiber for the win 19:40 < ebol4> anybody a gemini 19:41 < cantibot> right? we had like 6 bonded 1t's before it was miserable 19:41 < felda> I know those feels 19:41 < felda> I was running 2 bonded DSL lines with pfsense 19:41 < cantibot> ouch... 19:41 < cantibot> PFsense does do pretty good on bonded lines 19:41 < felda> This is our top tier new ISP website http://www.mdtc.net/ 19:41 < cantibot> idk if I get kicked 19:41 <@Code_Man65> Nope 19:41 <@Code_Man65> Just felda 19:41 < cantibot> AHAHAHAHA! 19:42 < cantibot> Code_Man65 let me fix these fucking bots in here man seriously 19:42 < corn266> I think windows firewall is the best firewall out there 19:42 <@Code_Man65> Unless felda isn't here, then whomever says it gets kicked as a felda stand-in 19:42 < cantibot> we're a sysadmin channel and I can't even .yt 19:42 <@Code_Man65> There is a reason behind that cantibot 19:42 < cantibot> was it being abused? 19:42 <@Code_Man65> Yep 19:42 < DomLS3> pfsense 19:42 < cantibot> seriously? are we not a bunch of adults? 19:43 < DomLS3> pfsense 19:43 < DomLS3> cantibot: we are a bunch of sysadmins 19:43 < DomLS3> sysadmins are all smartasses 19:43 < DomLS3> and 90% immature 19:43 < cantibot> true, true. 19:43 < cantibot> I am a danger to myself on the daily. 19:44 < cantibot> 2 redbulls deep ready to FUCK shit up! 19:44 < Hempux> cantibot, only two? :p 19:44 < cantibot> They the 20oz silos ;) 19:45 < cantibot> most expensive heart attack ever lmao 19:45 < cantibot> hp Et multi-environment,rom none,jetdirect,jd128,eeprom v.33.28 19:45 <+TuxedoJack> Lightweight 19:45 < cantibot> oops 19:45 < ebol4> hacked 19:46 < cantibot> HAXX 19:46 < cantibot> oh, in case nobody has said it yet today 19:46 < cantibot> FUCK. PRINTERS. 19:46 < Casteil> no 19:46 < Casteil> printers fuck you 19:46 < DomLS3> cantibot doxxed himself 19:46 < DomLS3> we know what printer he uses 19:46 < DomLS3> lawd 19:46 < Hempux> LP0 can burn in hall 19:47 < Hempux> s/hall/hell 19:47 < cantibot> I can feel the reverse TCP connections already DomLS3 19:48 < DomLS3> metasploit dat eeprom v.33.28 19:48 < cantibot> I remember the first time I saw those dirty ass laserjet 4250 firmwares that made silent reverse connections 19:48 < cantibot> damn near shit myself 19:49 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs that's not how this works 19:50 < Hempux> DOMF, metaploit is for scriptkiddies, just write a GUI in VB6 19:50 <@Code_Man65> esnesfp 19:51 < DomLS3> no 19:51 < DomLS3> you can't do it yourself 19:51 < DomLS3> that's abuse 19:51 < DomLS3> abuse of yourself 19:51 < DomLS3> Code_Man65 stop abusing yourself 19:51 < Anaphylaxis> metasploit is awesome 19:51 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3: keep pushing it, you might get kicked for rot13 of it, too 19:52 * DomLS3 pushes it 19:52 < cantibot> push it to the limit! 19:53 < cantibot> god danny brown gets me so pumped 19:53 < ebol4> esnesfp 19:53 < DomLS3> I wonder if they are having a PM session now deliberating on what variances of pfsense to kick me on 19:54 < DomLS3> that'd be cute 19:54 < felda> I think they should kick you any time enter the channel 19:54 < gnupluslinux> push it push it. to the limit limit 19:54 < gnupluslinux> cause we're in it to win it 19:54 < cantibot> felda I think just peeing on his hands would suffice really. 19:54 < gnupluslinux> i dont even remember what that's from 19:54 < cantibot> "team synergy meetings" 19:55 < cantibot> THAT'S where that shit is from. 19:55 < DomLS3> felda: don't hate me because I speak the truth about your garbage product you like so much 19:55 < felda> it's because you swear at the mods and that's really rude 19:55 < DomLS3> when did I swear at the mods 19:55 < DomLS3> show me a log 19:55 < estranger> fuck you mods 19:55 < felda> kick me all you want 19:55 < felda> you got got 19:55 < felda> biatch 19:55 < DomLS3> biatch is not a swear word 19:55 < DomLS3> kthx 19:55 < felda> that was 19:56 < felda> no substitutions 19:56 <@ravioli> pls take it to #donger or literally anywhere else 19:56 < DomLS3> biatch != bitch 19:56 < ebol4> my hair.... is soft 19:56 < felda> yeah it do 19:56 < DomLS3> no it ain't 19:56 < felda> just because you say it differently everyone knows what you mean 19:56 < estranger> ebol4, ever get those random super rough/angled hairs? 19:57 < ebol4> estranger: i sometimes get one or two long, thick hairs on my arms 19:57 < DomLS3> people interpret things differently 19:57 < estranger> ebol4, sounds like arm cancer 19:58 < DomLS3> felda: otherwise I could say felda is a swear word 19:58 < ebol4> i'm gonna die 19:58 <@JollyRgrs> dang, this pair is HUGE 19:58 < DomLS3> and you swear at everyone just by simplying typing 19:58 < felda> DomLS3 what you are using is called DOG WHISTLING 19:58 < felda> you say something that sounds normal 19:58 < DomLS3> felda: but not swearing 19:58 < felda> but really it has a different meaning 19:58 < felda> ye you meant to hurt the OPs feelings 19:58 < DomLS3> it wasn't a swear word. End of story 19:58 < felda> and that's not cool 19:58 < DomLS3> I could hurt OP's feelings by saying the Cowboys are a terrible football team 19:59 < DomLS3> that doesn't mean I used a swear word 19:59 < DomLS3> felda: your argument is invalid. Get out 19:59 < felda> nah it's not 19:59 < felda> you argue like the alt-right does 19:59 < DomLS3> With facts? 19:59 < DomLS3> Yeah 19:59 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3: you would not hurt my feelings on that 19:59 < felda> pretty sure you're a nazi 19:59 <@JollyRgrs> i am not a cowboys fan 19:59 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs: ++ <3 19:59 < felda> I'm not a cowboys fan, but have you seen those cheerleaders >_> 19:59 < DomLS3> felda: Facts > * 19:59 < DomLS3> biatch != bitch 19:59 < DomLS3> Fact ^ 19:59 < DomLS3> kthx bye 20:00 < felda> lmao DomLS3 you don't have facts 20:00 < rhqq> wtf is going on here 20:00 < rhqq> xD 20:00 <@JollyRgrs> YOU WANT FACTS?!?!? 20:00 < ebol4> JollyRgrs: search your feelings, cowboy lover 20:00 < SynMonger> cripple fight 20:00 <@JollyRgrs> YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE FACTS!!!!! 20:00 < DomLS3> OOF 20:00 <@JollyRgrs> ebol4: absolutely not 20:00 < felda> JollyRgrs actually loves the packers 20:01 < gnupluslinux> JollyRgrs, is no true pirate 20:01 < DomLS3> felda: felda actually loves getting his shit packed in 20:01 < ebol4> felda: i hear they do a lot of packing up on Mt. brokeback 20:01 <@JollyRgrs> felda: no, just b/c your dad and i share the same woman doesn't mean we share the same NFL team 20:01 < felda> a gay joke too? 20:01 < DomLS3> now THAT is a hateful swear 20:01 < felda> I knew you were a racist 20:01 < DomLS3> wat 20:01 < DomLS3> gay has nothing to do with race 20:01 < DomLS3> lol 20:01 <@JollyRgrs> #thatsthejoke? 20:01 < felda> ^^^^^^^^^^ 20:01 <@JollyRgrs> joke 20:02 < felda> wooshy mcgee 20:02 <@JollyRgrs> ________ 20:02 <@JollyRgrs> 20:02 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs we need dickbutt 20:02 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3... way below that line 20:02 < DomLS3> haven't got it in awhile 20:02 <@JollyRgrs> i posted one last night 20:02 < DomLS3> ;/ 20:02 < DomLS3> I was too busy plowing felda's mom last night 20:02 < felda> all I'm saying is I haven't seen DomLS3 and Hitler in the same room 20:03 < DomLS3> If I were Hitler as you suggest, than technically you would see DomLS3 and Hitler in the same room 20:03 < DomLS3> So you just collapsed your own statement 20:03 < DomLS3> FACTS 20:03 < Heresiarch> felda: sure you have. He was bitching about Lotus Notes. 20:03 < DomLS3> eww lotus notes 20:03 < DomLS3> almost as bad as pfsense 20:04 <@Code_Man65> No DomLS3, it is much much worse 20:04 < DomLS3> It's worse when felda isn't here 20:04 < DomLS3> but since felda is here, pfsense is the worst 20:04 < felda> how could I see DomLS3 and hitler in the same room when obviously one of you would be the disguise 20:05 < grumplestiltzkin> Heresiarch: I read that as 'hitler was bitching about Lotus Notes' 20:05 < DomLS3> felda: If one person is actually two, then no matter which disguise the person was using, they would still be both in physical form 20:05 * DomLS3 drops the mic 20:05 < felda> nah not really they would be two distinct identities 20:05 < DomLS3> identity doesn't matter 20:05 < DomLS3> that 20:05 < felda> it do though 20:05 < Heresiarch> grumplestiltzkin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk1dbsBWQ3k 20:05 < DomLS3> it dont though 20:06 < felda> it's okay that you don't have any nuance in your life 20:06 < DomLS3> I had your mom in my life last night 20:06 < DomLS3> that was a nuance 20:06 <@JollyRgrs> wait... 20:06 < felda> pls upgrade your banter 20:06 <@JollyRgrs> when did IRC get physical? 20:06 < ebol4> VR chat 20:07 < felda> I swear to god Shoh was better than this 20:07 < DomLS3> Shoh doesn't have shit on me 20:07 <@JollyRgrs> more entertaining for sure 20:07 < ebol4> shoh would at least threaten to kill you 20:07 < DomLS3> he's never even here 20:07 <@JollyRgrs> with an ice pick 20:07 < DomLS3> Or... maybe I am Shoh 20:07 <@JollyRgrs> nope 20:07 < DomLS3> and DomLS3 is a different identity 20:08 < DomLS3> Along with my Hitler identity apparently. 20:08 < giant_it_burrit> you're all morons 20:08 < DomLS3> giant_it_burrit: you're missing an o. 20:08 < DomLS3> you have no say so 20:08 < giant_it_burrit> ill have to get that o back 20:08 < felda> I shall move on to other avenues 20:08 < giant_it_burrit> from felda's mom 20:08 <@JollyRgrs> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 20:08 < DomLS3> giant_it_burrit: she's a tough one 20:08 < DomLS3> she may not give it back without a fight 20:08 < felda> DomLS3 eats condiments straight from the bottle 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3 can't get an O out of felda's mom 20:09 < giant_it_burrit> jolly just gave it up' 20:09 < giant_it_burrit> cause ho 20:09 < cantibot> I haven't ate all day :( 20:09 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs: doesn't matter had sex 20:09 < DomLS3> get in, get off, get out 20:09 < cantibot> katchup sounds good at this point 20:09 < felda> I don't think you've seen my mother lmao 20:09 < ebol4> eviscerate and evacuate babey 20:09 < giant_it_burrit> not without the bag 20:09 < DomLS3> she gives a great gum job though. Pop those suckers out of her mouth and she goes to town 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3: i have a similar mantra as The Rock 20:09 < felda> I was actually born out of a corn field 20:09 < giant_it_burrit> shuck her 20:09 < ebol4> felda: m...malachai? 20:09 < DomLS3> felda: So you're super man? 20:09 <@JollyRgrs> felda: not a cabbage patch? 20:09 < giant_it_burrit> shuck her in the ear 20:10 < giant_it_burrit> of corn 20:10 < felda> JollyRgrs my Earthly mother did not specify 20:10 < giant_it_burrit> she has a husky voice 20:10 < felda> I could have been born of a radish patch 20:10 < giant_it_burrit> there is a kernel of truth to that 20:10 < grumplestiltzkin> !nominate Heresiarch that was perfect. 20:10 < DomLS3> are we still using !nominate like it actually does anything 20:11 < SynMonger> careful, or felda will pop you 20:11 < ebol4> !nominate obama 20:11 < felda> to be honest I should have been +v a long time ago 20:11 < cantibot> fffff 20:11 < cantibot> I am sick of this fucking ear infection! 20:11 < DomLS3> felda: There's a reason I've been +v more than you 20:11 < cantibot> I need my left ear back plz 20:11 < cantibot> kthnkx 20:11 < ebol4> cantibot: i get chronic ear infections, shit sucks 20:11 < SynMonger> the MSM has a definite anti-felda bias 20:11 < cantibot> It came on so suddenly 20:11 < mruszczyk> Our UTM just went freaking bonkers on an adobe app update. Anyone else seeing this? http://ccmdl.adobe.com/AdobeProducts/PHSP/19.1.4.325/win64/88f01f6c-44bc-40a9-b955-8c693e18e7cc/AdobePhotoshop19-Core_x64.zip 20:12 < felda> DomLS3 that's because you're a brown-noser 20:12 < DomLS3> felda: so first I shit talk the admins and swear at them... now I'm a brown noser 20:12 < DomLS3> make up your mind 20:12 < felda> you can be both 20:12 < felda> it's an abusive relationship 20:13 < DomLS3> Winning is winning 20:13 < felda> spoken like a true Trumpster fire 20:13 < DomLS3> Trump4life 20:13 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: i can't even finish that here at work right now... i was laughing too hard 20:13 < Sousapro> Lol get new job, 3 linked in recruiter requests to talk about other offers 20:14 < Heresiarch> Glad you both liked it. :D 20:15 < cantibot> mruszczyk thisis what I get: Access Denied 20:15 < cantibot> You don't have permission to access "http://ccmdl.adobe.com/AdobeProducts/PHSP/19.1.4.325/win64/88f01f6c-44bc-40a9-b955-8c693e18e7cc/AdobePhotoshop19-Core_x64.zip" on this server. 20:15 < cantibot> Reference #18.64ce72d8.1526926518.2c53301 20:16 < mruszczyk> Yea when I used the adobe cc app to try and update photoshop that url get caught by our UTM 20:16 < cantibot> whats your utm? 20:16 < mruszczyk> untangle 20:17 < DomLS3> "I don't think all the midget porn in the world could cheer me up right now" 20:17 < DomLS3> ahaha 20:18 < felda> I really want to like midget porn but it doesn't really do anything for me :( 20:18 < DomLS3> not my thing either 20:19 < Heresiarch> felda: most people like that it's short and to the point. 20:19 < felda> lmao 20:20 < Sousapro> Heresiarch: LMAO at the video 20:20 < br34k> Does anyone know how to backup windows 10 start tile layout on 1803? 20:20 < Sousapro> That's about how I feel about lotus notes 20:21 < corn266> Is there a way to open a program GUI when aliased as a different user on linux? 20:21 < Sousapro> br34k: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/customize-and-export-start-layout 20:21 < Heresiarch> corn266: sudo -u ? 20:21 < corn266> Say `su - user` then running the program as user only brings up the cli 20:21 < br34k> Sousapro, Thank you! :) 20:22 < Heresiarch> Sousapro: that's about how any Lotus admin feels. 20:23 < corn266> Doesn't work Heresiarch still brings up the cli 20:23 < Heresiarch> corn266: does the same command work as both GUI and cli? 20:25 < corn266> yea, when I'm logged in as the user the command opens the GUI, but when aliased it only goes to cli 20:26 < corn266> also have tried `export DISPLAY=machine_name:0` and that removed a "No protocol specified" error but didn't bring up the gui 20:26 < Heresiarch> so...the alias is set on your .profile/.bashrc/.bash_profile ? 20:27 < ebol4> what command are you trying to run? 20:28 < ebol4> or rather, what gui are you trying to make appear 20:28 < corn266> matlab, and no I was under the assumption `su - user` was considered aliasing 20:28 < ebol4> su - user is logging in as another user 20:29 < ebol4> an alias is making one command redirect to a different command 20:29 < felda> you wouldn't have to use sudo if you used pfsense 20:29 < ebol4> like you make just a plain "ls" an alias for "ls -la" 20:29 < cantibot> can you believe it? you've already finished c 20:30 < ebol4> corn266: try the --desktop flag 20:30 < cantibot> you think you can do matlab? 20:30 < cantibot> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 20:31 < JFDkthx> Sousapro: you have a TR 1950x right? 20:31 < corn266> ebol4: like `matlab --desktop` ? 20:31 < ebol4> yep 20:32 < corn266> nada, changed to -desktop and still cli 20:32 < ebol4> corn266: the program doesn't know if you're running it from CLI or by clicking on a desktop icon or something, so there is some kind of flag or something that is telling it to open the GUI 20:32 < ebol4> or a different command 20:33 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: tr1900x actually 20:33 < JFDkthx> ah 20:34 < corn266> Running the command without any parameters it'll open the gui, I'll go ask the only guy in the office that runs it as cli to see what they do differently. Thanks anyways though 20:34 < JFDkthx> temps are 27c offset right? 20:34 < JFDkthx> are you seeing an idle aroun 60c? 20:35 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: try just opening gedit or something, simplify it to make sure you can get any GUI to show up on the desktop 20:35 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: yeah but most monitoring tools have updated to adjust for that 20:36 < corn266> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: 20:36 < Sousapro> JFDkthx: it was definitely cooler than that 20:36 < Sousapro> I'll check tonight 20:36 < JFDkthx> Sousapro: reason why i am asking, i'm sitting right at 4.2 base, with speccy showing idling at 60-62c 20:36 < JFDkthx> and aisuite is reporting like 39-40 20:37 < ebol4> corn266: are you just on the desktop with a terminal emulator open, or are you like SSH'd or consoled in or something? 20:38 < corn266> terminal 20:38 < jaelae> i used to do a lot of side gigs for work 20:38 < corn266> though I might try `ssh -X user@localhost` and trying that 20:38 < jaelae> but now i do more niche IT work 20:38 < jaelae> i cant find side gigs for it :) 20:40 < Heresiarch> most IT jobs, they get grumpy about side gigs (unless you're already a consultant). 20:40 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: do you need to start x first for your other user acct? 20:40 < DeVito> Why are these 2960Gs haunted 20:40 < DeVito> I don't like it 20:41 < corn266> I can try JollyRgrs 20:41 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/108784/running-gui-application-as-another-non-root-user 20:41 <@JollyRgrs> Additionally you'll need to grant users access to your display. This is governed by X. You can use the command xhost + to allow other users permission to display GUI's to user1's desktop. 20:42 < jaelae> Heresiarch: hey my spare time is my time :) 20:42 < jaelae> my boss encourages it though 20:44 < corn266> JollyRgrs: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 20:45 <@JollyRgrs> :) so that helped? 20:45 < corn266> Fuck yes thank you! 20:45 <@JollyRgrs> np 20:45 < coderphive> alright 20:47 < coderphive> Who left sudo -s up on the secretaries computer with instructions to run ping -f? 20:48 < abakedapplepie> that was me 20:48 < abakedapplepie> srry 20:48 < gnupluslinux> curl https://totallyreal.com | sudo bash 20:49 < gnupluslinux> secretary, plz2run -IT 20:55 < ebol4> this man in this meeting just pronounced "SUSE" like "zusa" is that normal 20:56 < ebol4> do people do that 20:56 < grumplestiltzkin> From: United States Postal Service USPS Package Delivery Attempt Fail Notice You may arrange redelivery by seeing the closest United States Postal Service location with the printed invoice provided down below. link goes to http://thebeachhouseflamingo.com/?5uAD=SQVVXUNZCQZTmPZJmzIyJTHS 20:56 < grumplestiltzkin> seems legit, right? 20:56 < abakedapplepie> ebol4: were they german? 20:56 < abakedapplepie> i could see germans pronouncing it that way 20:59 < gnupluslinux> totes legit 21:00 < AnimalFarmPig> Beach House Flamingo is part of their rebranding, I hear. 21:00 < AnimalFarmPig> I've heard several people pronounce SUSE like "Sue Say" 21:00 < br34k> is it bad to pronounce it "soos?" 21:01 < grumplestiltzkin> USPS rebranding as 'homeandbodyco' and 'thebeachhouseflamingo', ahh yeah, I think I remember hearing that 21:02 < AnimalFarmPig> br34k: I pronounce it "soos" 21:02 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: did you ever get an answer on satellite? 21:02 <@Code_Man65> No 21:03 < JFDkthx> k, let me email the chick i talked to. i finally got her name 21:03 <@JollyRgrs> srsly, by 3pm, work dies and i'm so bored 21:03 <@JollyRgrs> (most days) 21:03 <@JollyRgrs> time to play HQ trivia i guess 21:03 <@Code_Man65> Sounds a bit trivial to me 21:04 <@JollyRgrs> indeed 21:04 < komugi> Does anyone know of the Ubuntu bash on windows interface with usb/hardware? 21:05 < komugi> or rather, if it can 21:05 < aName> https://www.periscope.tv/w/1kvKpWmDyaLxE <-- pretty neat 21:06 < Stoob> what is HQ trivia 21:06 <@JollyRgrs> Stoob: live trivia you can win real monies 21:06 <@JollyRgrs> mobile app 21:07 < br14> I am a failure. Warehous guy just went through his workflow of "Recieve email -> print -> scan to PDF" to me :( Where do I submit my resignation? 21:08 < br14> He's like 22, I expected better by default. 21:08 <@Code_Man65> br14: You don't have to resign, you have to drink 5 bloody marys and burn a printer in effigy to gain forgiveness 21:09 < br14> I'll do one better and burn a printer everyday! 21:12 < aName> br14: People don't know how computers work, they know how to do the series of button presses that got them the result they wanted last time 21:12 < aName> But that honestly doesn't sound that bad - he's printing the email to a PDF, yeah? That's... fine, I guess? 21:12 <@ravioli> no 21:12 <@ravioli> he's printing it and then scanning the printed paper 21:12 <@ravioli> to get a pdf 21:12 < aName> Oh. He's printing it out and th... yeah 21:12 < jbroome> amazing 21:13 <@ravioli> i've seen it before, a few times 21:13 <@ravioli> less uncommon than you might think 21:13 < jbroome> i had a MiL print out a screenshot, and fax me. then email to tell me she faxed it to me 21:13 < SynMonger> that seems to be the common way that people figure out how to get a pdf 21:13 < aName> May as well send me a jpeg at that point but whatever 21:14 < syere> In their defense, there was a good decade that making a pdf was impossible without paying for or acquiring software 21:14 < SynMonger> the idea of "printing" to a PDF doesn't compute 21:14 < br14> but windows 10 *has* a "Print to PDF" printer. I forgive people on older computers. But not anymore. 21:14 < ravioli> osx has supported it forever 21:14 < ravioli> don't @ me 21:14 < syere> ive had it in linux and then osx for almost ever 21:14 < syere> but windows.... man that's a whole other story 21:14 < AnimalFarmPig> Opera (The Safe, Fast Browser(tm)) has export to PDF since a while 21:15 < SynMonger> there was CutePDF back in the day 21:15 < br14> I used to use sccm to pust cutePDF 21:15 < syere> true, but normal users didn't know that 21:15 < SynMonger> yep 21:15 < ravioli> chrome has print to pdf too 21:15 < jbroome> i think samba used to have a virtual pdf printer. i think i set that up a few times 21:16 < syere> There are some things I can't go off on users about. Windows and PDFs, especially if they are older, is one of them. 21:16 * AnimalFarmPig updates Adobe Reader 21:16 < AnimalFarmPig> installs Google Ultron 21:16 < br14> Age really has very little to do with computing competence. 21:17 < syere> br14 I have to disagree to a certain extent 21:17 < hxcsp> AnimalFarmPig is IT 21:17 < br14> Many of the 18-30 age group are very good at social media, not much else. 21:18 < syere> And I only say that due to older "non-tech" people dealing with tech during their career. If someone was in their 30's or 40's the first time they had to create a PDF like a decade ago, they had to go to IT, or one of their kids friends to make tha thappen 21:19 < br14> Kids these days can take pic's of their cocks, but can't do anything with them other than put a dumbfilter on it and snap it. 21:19 < br14> ask them to put it in a ppt and they will fail. 21:19 < AnimalFarmPig> br14: these are the kinds of things should be learning in school 21:20 < hxcsp> in 10 years there will be a snap to PDF option 21:20 < br14> so my middleschooler doens't have any coursework in "computers". Their just supposed to know? or pick it up? 21:20 < Seraxis> insta to PDF 21:21 < AnimalFarmPig> imagemagick supports pdf-- convert my_snap.png my_snap.pdf 21:21 < AnimalFarmPig> checkmate windows users 21:22 < ravioli> we're 1-to-1 here br14. kids don't take classes to "learn computers" but they learn using computers every day 21:22 < AnimalFarmPig> br14: can you imagine how bored you would be if you already knew how to use computers? We had courses in "computers" when I was in middle school. It was excruciating. 21:23 < ravioli> as in, every student has a laptop. 21:23 < br14> ravioli: so is my son. But watching him fumble around thrying to fix formatting almost gave me a stroke. 21:24 < hxcsp> My daughter who is in second grade has a computer class already where they use a program called Kodable 21:24 < hxcsp> like logical programming for kids 21:24 < AnimalFarmPig> you know why they're called word processors? 21:24 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: I had to take an 8AM computer literacy course my freshman year of a compsci major 21:24 < AnimalFarmPig> you ever seen what a food processor does to food? 21:24 < Anaphylaxis> no 21:24 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: They wouldn't let me test out and attendance was 35% of the grade 21:24 < genr8_> im not sure my mom even knows that a PDF isnt a word document 21:24 < AnimalFarmPig> aName: I'm so sorry 21:24 < tapoxi> I had to take a MS Office exam to get my CS degree 21:25 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: And I was constantly getting things wrong because I knew too much 21:25 < tapoxi> it was the last exam I had to take 21:25 < Anaphylaxis> What were some of the questions like? taxo 21:25 < Anaphylaxis> tapoxi, 21:25 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: (they wanted the simple answer, not the correct one, lol) 21:25 < tapoxi> Anaphylaxis: use mail merge to template this letter 21:25 < br14> They are lacking some sort of basic how to create/format/save/restore class. 21:25 < tapoxi> etc 21:25 < tapoxi> also "use access to do x" and I never used access, panicked, and wrote sql 21:25 < br14> it doesn't have to be an entire semester. 21:25 < Anaphylaxis> Did you get the question wrong because of that? tapoxi 21:26 < aName> tapoxi: lol 21:26 < AnimalFarmPig> I can't remember the last time I used MS Word at work. If I'm writing up documentation, I use a text editor with markdown. Pretty much only thing I use it for is my resume. 21:26 < aName> tapoxi: "I panicked because I didn't know access so I used SQL instead" 21:26 < AnimalFarmPig> Excel or rest of MS Office suite not that much either these days 21:26 < tapoxi> Anaphylaxis: nah lady proctoring it was like "oh youre fine" and let me skip the rest of access 21:26 < aName> legendary 21:26 < tapoxi> I was legit scared I would fail it 21:26 < aName> tapoxi: Good 21:26 < tapoxi> I havent used office since 21:26 < aName> That's a rational instructor 21:27 < aName> "Oh you clearly already understand the fundamental concept underlying this lesson" 21:27 < Anaphylaxis> rofl tapoxi 21:27 < br14> Access is pretty much the devil. 21:27 < aName> br14: It's alright for some things 21:27 < aName> br14: It's just about knowing the scope of what it SHOULD be used for 21:27 < int0x1C8> same with excel 21:27 < br14> aName: Many don't. Many think it is excel. 21:28 < aName> int0x1C8: Excel? You mean "the world's worst IDE?" 21:28 < br14> I've got a pic somewhere of a guy who added all the numbers up in an access table and put the sum on the last row. 21:28 < aName> wow, that's speshul 21:29 < AnimalFarmPig> I am involuntarily twitching after reading that 21:29 < aName> TIL - the unit price on store brand cough syrup is actually much worse - they must be banking on you being sick as a dog and not comparing - which is exactly what I did 21:30 < int0x1C8> :| 21:30 < AnimalFarmPig> aName: the store brands usually have less menthol in them so they're easier to chug. I'll pay extra for that. 21:30 < aName> Also, that dextromethorphan polystirex comes up in vomit looking like curdled blood 21:30 < cantibot> aName are you sippin on some syzzurp? 21:31 < int0x1C8> do you feel fly like a G6? 21:31 < aName> cantibot: Yeah, gonna get that dank cough relief 21:31 < cantibot> drinking lean at work was one of my better days. 21:31 < cantibot> Albeit I was really sick 21:31 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, that polystirex is just an ingestion safe plastic 21:31 < cantibot> but fuck, was I sippin that syzzurp. 21:31 < aName> cantibot: Anyway, dextromethorphan is not promethizane 21:32 < cantibot> yea that's the lame syurp 21:32 < aName> Well... you take enough and it'll do the trick 21:32 < cantibot> You need to go to express care and act like a responsible adult to get the good stuff 21:32 < aName> But I'm not doing that lol 21:32 < AnimalFarmPig> in the early 2000's (when I was in college), they used to make honey flavored cough syrup. When I was sick, I would mix it in even portions with lemon grass tea and Kentucky Deluxe whiskey and drink it until I killed a bottle. 21:32 < aName> cantibot: I've got a beard and long hair, they aren't giving me shit 21:32 < AnimalFarmPig> I was sick a lot. 21:33 < aName> At any rate, the cough is much better today than yesterday 21:33 < aName> Just still not much fun 21:34 < orderchaos> howdy everyone. Surprised my VPS has kept me logged in this long. 21:34 < orderchaos> I rearranged my desktop so now I have space for this chat again. 21:34 < aName> Oh, how blessed we are. 21:34 < orderchaos> s/blessed/cursed 21:34 <@cryptic1> hey orderchaos hows it going? 21:35 <+orderchaos> busy busy 21:35 < MillerBOSS> Sounds like chaos. 21:36 <+orderchaos> changing teams at work soon. Finally get to move away from direct customer support to more exclusively technical stuff. I do a lot of technical stuff already, but also have to deal with anything from 'how do I login' to 'give me a refund' and those are less fun. 21:36 < MillerBOSS> Yes we only want fun things. :) 21:36 <@cryptic1> nice 21:38 < MillerBOSS> ZOMG start fires https://status.slack.com/2018-05/42acc9f7860c0416 21:38 < cantibot> everyone, 21:38 < cantibot> take 5 seconds and dump all the shit out of your keyboards 21:38 <+orderchaos> MillerBOSS: just noticed that myself 21:38 < cantibot> you will feel a lot better, trust me. 21:38 < MillerBOSS> Mine is clean thanks. 21:38 < aName> cantibot: Mine is already clean - I vacuum it when I do my weekend cleaning 21:38 < cantibot> ooh MillerBOSS is a C L E A N B O I 21:39 < cantibot> weekend cleaning? 21:39 < aName> Yeah 21:39 < cantibot> is that like part of your job? 21:39 < aName> Like, saturday morning I get up and clean my home 21:39 < cantibot> oh! do you work from home? 21:39 < aName> No - not usually. 21:39 < aName> But my work laptop is a surfacebook and there's nowhere for crumbs to get in anyway 21:39 < MillerBOSS> I take air to it once and a while and I use one of these https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2000x2000/Apple_MB110LL_B_Keyboard_With_Numeric_Keypad_812534.jpg 21:39 < cantibot> oh nice 21:40 < MillerBOSS> I home from work. Does that count? 21:40 < Sousapro> I'm using an old Razer mechanical at work 21:40 < cantibot> I bent the shit out of one of those...they don't take too kindly to the angry hands 21:40 < Sousapro> I get the looks sometimes lol 21:40 < aName> cantibot: I believe it 21:40 < MillerBOSS> lol no cantibot 21:40 < aName> cantibot: I wore a hole in the paint in my first month 21:40 < cantibot> jeesh! 21:40 < cantibot> that's intense! 21:41 < cantibot> I guess you could say...you go hard in the paint 21:41 < cantibot> YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21:41 < aName> Yeah, been meaning to get a big sticker for it 21:41 < cantibot> stickers fix most everything 21:41 < Sousapro> I finally swapped out the seat on my roadking for one of the police seats 21:42 < rpifan> has slack collapsed for yall 21:42 < cantibot> omg 10 minutes till I can go home ;_; 21:42 < Sousapro> Police seat best seat 21:42 < AnimalFarmPig> I haven't cleaned my work keyboard for years 21:42 < cantibot> is it crusty? 21:43 < AnimalFarmPig> no, just a bit dirty looking 21:43 < AnimalFarmPig> the parts where my fingers touch it are clean. The other parts have years of accumulated/stuck dust & office grime 21:44 < rpifan> the problem is 21:44 < rpifan> that u r working somewhere for many years 21:44 < rpifan> if u keep moving u wont gather moss 21:44 < AnimalFarmPig> no, I've moved this keyboard between jobs 21:44 < rpifan> y 21:44 < AnimalFarmPig> because I like this keyboard. Sun Type 7. 21:45 < rpifan> no idea 21:45 < cantibot> rpifan I've only been here 4 years and I feel like I sit on a mountain of dick cheese so what is a man to do... 21:45 < xamithan> 4 years is 3 years too ong 21:45 < cantibot> I NEED DAT MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE! 21:45 < MillerBOSS> Fromunda? 21:45 < cantibot> something like that. 21:45 < rpifan> need to move on 21:45 < rpifan> always keep moving 21:45 < rpifan> never stop 21:45 < MillerBOSS> ha ha 21:46 < xamithan> Move me into a new job rpifan 21:46 < rpifan> even after u get run over 21:46 < xamithan> You hiring ? 21:46 < rpifan> come work at boats crap 21:46 < cantibot> well isn't someone all fucking motivated on a monday how nice 21:46 < xamithan> No boats, boats don't run linux 21:46 < cantibot> but boats and hoes! 21:46 < rpifan> boatsgroup 21:46 < rpifan> boats.com 21:46 < cantibot> and the requriement of needing more of both 21:46 < rpifan> yachtworld.com 21:46 < rpifan> boote.de 21:47 < rpifan> cosasdebarco.com 21:47 < rpifan> we own all that shit 21:47 < rpifan> mountain of enoruous 21:47 < rpifan> crap 21:47 < rpifan> shit 21:47 < rpifan> and disgusting ness 21:47 < MillerBOSS> Enter key says give me a rest :P 21:47 < rpifan> dont tell the enter key what it wants 21:47 < rpifan> the enter keys love it 21:48 < MillerBOSS> How about the return key? 21:48 < rpifan> well retrograde ejoculation is bad 21:48 < MillerBOSS> Hmm 21:48 < cantibot> lol /r/wokekids is pretty solid actually 21:49 < xamithan> Well that company doesn't even have a careers|jobs page. 21:49 < aName> That shit is so cringe-inducing 21:49 < rpifan> my company? 21:49 < aName> Yep, you sure are the first people to have figured out there's inequality in the world 21:49 < aName> How smart you must be! 21:49 < xamithan> Boats group. I'm not sure how people even hire like that, must be through recruiters 21:50 < rpifan> what do u mean? 21:50 < rpifan> i applied directly to them on indeed 21:50 < dragonfleas> would you guys rather have sex with rosie o'donnell or Gallowboob 21:50 < MillerBOSS> Cancer chat again. 21:50 < rpifan> what u mean about inequlatiy 21:50 < dragonfleas> MillerBOSS, where? 21:50 < int0x1C8> rpifan is drunk 21:50 < MillerBOSS> Over there 21:50 < rpifan> ive got two laptops 21:50 < rpifan> one for work 21:51 < rpifan> one for play 21:51 < rpifan> i gotta type on both 21:51 < xamithan> At the same time? 21:51 < rpifan> basically yes 21:51 < aName> Man, I'm really getting sick of people dumping a list of like 300 orders on IT and telling us to do their job for them 21:51 < aName> We have a system where you can look all this up, dude 21:51 < aName> Why is this our fucking problem 21:51 < grumplestiltzkin> humble bundle has a metric fuckton of web development books bundle, just opened up 21:52 < dragonfleas> did you guys see the sysadmin that found the bomb in the server room today 21:52 < JFDkthx> too bad humble bundle is blocked at work 21:52 < aName> "Oh, but it'd take a long time to go through this list" "Yes." 21:52 < MillerBOSS> Yes that is there so he can blow up the evidence when the shit hits the fan 21:52 < xamithan> How the hell did a bomb get in a server room 21:52 < aName> xamithan: Previous admin quit a couple months ago, took the keys with him 21:52 < aName> And apparently they just bothered to get in now 21:52 < cantibot> SOME ONE SENT US UP THE BOMB 21:53 < xamithan> And no one went in for months? jeez I have to do a daily check 21:53 < dragonfleas> xamithan, that's what i'm saying LMFAO 21:53 < dragonfleas> it was a live bomb 21:53 < MillerBOSS> DON'T SAY BOMB IN A IRC CHANNEL 21:53 < dragonfleas> he just walks in 21:53 < dragonfleas> he's like "ahhh time to check the cables and switches for a walk through health check" 21:53 < dragonfleas> "what's this...?" 21:53 < dragonfleas> "oh no big deal, damn kids must have put this bomb in here" 21:53 < MillerBOSS> As teh FBI tunes in to their log server for #reddit-sysadmin 21:54 < grumplestiltzkin> s/SENT/SET 21:54 < aName> MillerBOSS: cyber security botnet DDOS, malware, virus trojan keylogger 2600 spammer phishing rootkit phreaking cain and abel brute forcing pork mysql china conficker cloud 21:55 < MillerBOSS> cantibot meant SOME ONE SET US UP THE BOMB 21:55 < cantibot> true.. 21:55 < cantibot> I failed. 21:56 * cantibot slits wrist with flash drive 21:56 < dragonfleas> what would you guys do if you walked into your server room and there's just an antitank missile sitting in the middle of your server rack 21:56 < cantibot> fucking punt it! 21:56 < MillerBOSS> aName 👉 I think you got them all, thanks. 21:56 < estranger> turn around and walk out, open a ticket w/ IT 21:56 < estranger> then post to reddit 21:56 < SynMonger> ignore it and do what needs to be done 21:56 < estranger> plz do the needful 21:56 < sadbox> dragonfleas: obviously post on reddit for advice 21:56 < MillerBOSS> Call the po pos to get that shit out of my server room, duh 21:56 < aName> MillerBOSS: If you're not on a government list, you're boring and I don't want to hang out with you 21:57 < grumplestiltzkin> wow. this was my first humble thing. it looks like they are all DRM free too 21:57 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: slowpoke.jpg 21:57 < estranger> MillerBOSS, wonder if they'd try to shut off power.. the popo that is 21:57 < estranger> grumplestiltzkin, humble bundles are great 21:57 < estranger> ive bought a few ebook bundles 21:57 < MillerBOSS> There are too many people for us to be on a list aName :) 21:58 < cantibot> I live by the G-code so I can't talk to the pollice 21:58 < cantibot> thankfully my dad is ex-EOD so I can just call his ass up 21:58 < cantibot> probably going to need a leg of det cord at the VERY least 21:58 < dragonfleas> Ticket Closed: Bomb defused, counter terrorists win 21:58 < estranger> enforcement officer.... dick? 21:58 < aName> cantibot: lol he'd tell you to stop being a dumbass and call someone on active duty 21:58 < cantibot> lmao 21:58 < aName> estranger: Explosive Ordinance Disposal 21:59 < cantibot> ^^^ 21:59 < estranger> i like mine better 21:59 < estranger> but ill allow this 21:59 < cantibot> he is kinda a dick so it works 21:59 < MillerBOSS> Well the po pos would call the bomb squad for sure. Happened in Texas when those shootings were going on before the guy got nailed. Someone dropped off old artillery at Good will and they had no idea If it was live or not so the bomb squad and everyone else was there estranger 21:59 < DeVito> Okay 21:59 < DeVito> Cisco is definitely trying to drive me insane 22:00 < rpifan> sorry i malfunctioned 22:00 < rpifan> what were yall saying about boats group 22:00 < rpifan> cause i likely agree with it 22:02 < cantibot> this motherfucker is high as a georgia pine and it's not even 4 22:02 < abakedapplepie> grumplestiltzkin: i signed up for humble monthly so i could get destiny for $12 22:02 < abakedapplepie> im gonna keep t for a month and see what games come on the next subscription 22:02 < MillerBOSS> I bet you $12 you won't read the books 22:02 < abakedapplepie> i dont really play a lot of different games but my wife does so she might like it 22:02 < rpifan> i need to know yalls opinion 22:02 < abakedapplepie> oh i didnt get books 22:02 < MillerBOSS> Oh I thought it was for book and not games 22:02 < rpifan> so i can complain to the devops teams 22:03 < abakedapplepie> i didnt read what you guys were talking about 22:03 < estranger> MillerBOSS, my train station downtown last week was shut down us someone left packages in the station... like 20 vehicles showed up and choppers.. was neat heh 22:03 < sadbox> rpifan: about what 22:03 < rpifan> we have one of the dirtiest nastiest 22:03 < rpifan> db setups i have ever seen 22:03 < rpifan> triplicate users 22:03 < rpifan> incomplete stuff 22:03 < abakedapplepie> pics? 22:03 < MillerBOSS> I bet. Like one of the Die hard movies 22:03 < rpifan> we add primary keys manually 22:03 < abakedapplepie> i like dirty 22:03 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: I'm about to. I haven't done steam yet. I mean, getting the rights to the games is cool so if you ever want to, you have it. like the 'games with gold' on xbox. I click download/get on every single one, even if I dont want it and cancel it right away 22:03 < rpifan> we dont ever look the db when we make changes 22:03 < rpifan> we have 3 different apis to the same db 22:03 < rpifan> its a mess 22:04 < abakedapplepie> sounds neat 22:04 < abakedapplepie> whats it for 22:04 < sadbox> rpifan: sounds like almost everyone I've worked for 22:04 < abakedapplepie> im going to guess... healthcare 22:04 < sadbox> rpifan: at my last job we ran db2 in a vm w/ nfs storage 22:04 < MillerBOSS> Oh I see abakedapplepie. I remembered humble bundle just being books but I see it is more than books 22:05 < abakedapplepie> humble bundle started with just games 22:05 < MillerBOSS> I see. 22:05 < grumplestiltzkin> MillerBOSS: I bought the web dev book set, already downloaded them all as PDFs - I got a side hustle to biuld a website/store for a buddy's business, so I probably will read a coupld of them. Especially on how to make a mobile app 22:05 < rpifan> its for this boats groups 22:05 < MillerBOSS> Learn something new everyday 22:05 < rpifan> thing 22:05 < rpifan> the worse part of it all 22:05 < abakedapplepie> but now its not even so much a humble bundle 22:05 < abakedapplepie> its just a store 22:05 < rpifan> is im in the tech support department 22:05 < rpifan> im the lowest of the low 22:05 < rpifan> but it seems i have to tell the higher ups 22:05 < rpifan> how to do things 22:05 < rpifan> as no one else seems to see these obvious problems 22:06 < rpifan> or at leasat there hasnt been any will to fix it 22:06 < MillerBOSS> Do it grumplestiltzkin. Share when you are done. :) 22:06 < abakedapplepie> like the bundle part is still there, but the humble part is gone 22:06 < cantibot> can I please have a /r/realasians qt3.14 gf plz? 22:06 < rpifan> so as the little bastard i am, im pushing for improvement and volunteering to do the work myself 22:06 < abakedapplepie> it used to be typically well made super indie games that no one would otherwise hear about 22:06 < rpifan> also what the hell is a product owner / manager 22:06 < sadbox> rpifan: I'm gonna be 100% honest, if someone in tech supported wanted to touch my already-super-sketchy DB setup I'd say no 22:06 < rpifan> i just talked to the product ownwer for the websites 22:07 < rpifan> well i told them the truth ive got 10 years of sys admin experience 22:07 < abakedapplepie> a product owner is just the top dog for that product 22:07 < rpifan> so i have a decent idea of what im talking about 22:07 < rpifan> part of the problem, is that other less experience tech support do touch all the dbs, they make constant changes etc 22:07 < rpifan> and its creating huge issues 22:08 < rpifan> these are the kinds of people that know what they are doing but thye never ask why they are doing it 22:08 < sadbox> rpifan: that's goddamn horrifying 22:08 < abakedapplepie> sounds like you need a dba 22:08 < abakedapplepie> tbh 22:08 < abakedapplepie> techs shouldnt be doing that shit 22:08 < sadbox> what abakedapplepie said 22:08 < cantibot> I just got really excited about seeing my cat when I get home guys. 22:08 < rpifan> agreed 22:08 < rpifan> i asked on our company slack if we had a dba 22:08 < abakedapplepie> cantibot: thats me eevery day with my dog 22:08 < rpifan> and all i got was crickets 22:08 < cantibot> :3 22:08 < abakedapplepie> although my wife tells me hes in time out for eating the trash 22:08 < cantibot> Fuck JAMES! 22:09 < abakedapplepie> so thats fun 22:09 < sadbox> abakedapplepie: cantibot: that's my cat and dog every time I get home 22:09 < cantibot> ooh naughty boy! 22:09 < rpifan> they were like what is it you need and i was like i need to talk to who ever admins our dbs and get an idea as to why there set up that way 22:09 < rpifan> and they were more crickets... 22:09 < abakedapplepie> what gets me is he is a smart boy and he KNOWS when hes done something wrong 22:09 < rpifan> the other day i asked why our dbs dont have auto increment primary keys 22:09 < rpifan> no one knew 22:09 < abakedapplepie> because i come home and hes shaking in his boots 22:09 < cantibot> hehehee 22:09 < abakedapplepie> well, little man, if you didnt want to get in trouble then dont fucking eat the trash 22:10 < cantibot> he can't help himself! 22:10 < abakedapplepie> i guess 22:10 < sadbox> rpifan: are they super cool and use UUIDs/snowflake/etc instead? 22:10 < rpifan> what no 22:10 < rpifan> they use nothing 22:10 < rpifan> we add them manually one by one 22:11 < corn266> oof 22:11 < rpifan> and they are added by tech support 22:11 < rpifan> we also have rethinkdb 22:11 < rpifan> but idk what that is for 22:11 < rpifan> no idea what function it serves 22:11 < sadbox> maybe they needed to rethink their db setup 22:11 < xamithan> Its cool just optimize the DB every once in a while -your management 22:12 < rpifan> which is part of the conversation im going to have with devops 22:12 < rpifan> like what is rethink for 22:12 < _KaszpiR_> https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/comments/8kzx5p/some_kind_of_explosive_lying_on_the_floor_of/ 22:12 < cantibot> Its cool just optimize the nuts on your chin every once in a while -your mom 22:12 < estranger> just set the "faster" parameter in your DB to decrease your SLAs 22:12 < rpifan> im doing all of this just to stay busy 22:12 < rpifan> cause im out of here in two months 22:12 < rpifan> i give zero fucks 22:12 < rpifan> id be jus as happy to see them explode in there stupidity 22:12 < rpifan> but i get bored at work so i might as well be useful 22:13 < rpifan> being a low level tech support humans is dull stupid work 22:13 < xamithan> So I'm just curious, you got 10 years of sysadmin experience yet you are the lowbie on that tech team? 22:13 < cantibot> now /r/CelebrityArmpits/ 22:13 < rpifan> yea no idea 22:13 < cantibot> That is something I can get behind! 22:13 < hxcsp> rpifan: time will go by faster if you just drink enough to pass out 22:13 < hxcsp> in your office 22:13 < rpifan> but then i wont get paid 22:13 < rpifan> i gotta at least be sober 22:13 < hxcsp> just close the door, they wont know 22:13 < rpifan> we do have a beer keg tho 22:13 < estranger> hxcsp, we had a guy with that approach before he decided he was leaving the job 22:13 < rpifan> open office 22:13 < sadbox> rpifan: do you tho? 22:13 < hxcsp> lol 22:13 < estranger> hxcsp, we decided for him 22:13 < xamithan> That seems rare, but maybe they don't have a helpdesk 22:14 < sadbox> rpifan: do you really -need- to be sober 22:14 < hxcsp> estranger: yeah probably not a good idea 22:14 < rpifan> well i drink a lot of tea 22:14 < sadbox> rpifan: because apparently noone elsse is there if the db looks like that 22:14 < rpifan> at work 22:14 < estranger> dude would excuse himself every 30 minutes to go the bathroom, and bringhis backpack with him 22:14 < rpifan> lol 22:14 < estranger> wasted by 10am 22:14 < hxcsp> s/tea/long island iced tea/ 22:14 < rpifan> long island sounds delicious 22:14 < estranger> then he'd realize he was drunk and would try to play it off by talking more 22:14 < xamithan> Did they find liquior bottles and cans of beer in the bathroom trash can ? 22:14 < estranger> xamithan, no he was drunk as a skunk heh 22:15 < sadbox> estranger: tbh he was just bad at being an alcoholic 22:15 < rpifan> just two more months is all i need 22:15 < estranger> sadbox, i feel bad for the guy, has a problem 22:15 < rpifan> the nice thing about this job tho 22:15 < hxcsp> i once found (on security cameras) my overnight employee huffing cans of air duster 22:15 < rpifan> is even tho im low level tech support 22:15 < hxcsp> he had the nerve to hide them in a box underneath our raised floor in the DC 22:15 < estranger> hxcsp, lol 22:15 < rpifan> no one on the devops team gives me stink eye 22:15 < rpifan> instead 22:15 < sadbox> estranger: I mean, I knew an alcoholic who drove dump trucks 22:15 < rpifan> there like ok 22:15 < rpifan> come in 22:15 < rpifan> heres the code play with it 22:15 < xamithan> air duster? wtf why not just but a whip it 22:15 < sadbox> estranger: and he was actually good at it somehow 22:15 < xamithan> s/but/buy 22:15 < estranger> sadbox, thats not good, was prob the guy who hit that school bus in NJ last week 22:15 < hxcsp> xamithan: because they were my air dusters 22:15 < rpifan> i suspect they are all so overwhelmed theyll take anyone 22:16 < rpifan> who can help 22:16 < hxcsp> he didnt pay for that shit 22:16 < estranger> sadbox, hes good at it until he's not.. then its a really bad situation 22:16 < sadbox> estranger: yep 22:16 < sadbox> #arkansas 22:16 < rpifan> also i know a shit ton more then my office 22:16 < sadbox> don't miss living there 22:16 < rpifan> and she is recognized it 22:16 < felda> how do they know which almonds are female to milk them? 22:16 < estranger> wonder where I want to live next 22:16 < rpifan> so she is actually helpful 22:16 < rpifan> instead of holding me back 22:16 < rpifan> too bad the whole company isnt quite like that 22:16 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1: get back to work 22:16 < hxcsp> cryptic1: yeah 22:17 < rpifan> i have made this python script to automate password reset 22:17 < rpifan> and no one on the tech support team 22:17 < rpifan> is interested 22:17 < rpifan> my script turns 5 10 minute job 22:17 < Jagster`> get rekt 22:17 < rpifan> into 30 seconds 22:17 < Jagster`> well what does it do other than password reset? 22:17 < sadbox> rpifan: are you telling me that you're destroying jobs 22:17 < rpifan> possibly 22:18 < rpifan> well we get a lot of password reset cases 22:18 < rpifan> and our current setup 22:18 < rpifan> to rest them requieres several steps through swagger 22:18 < Jagster`> wat 22:18 < xamithan> Don't windows have password resets built-in already ? 22:18 < Jagster`> your IT guys can't even use curl? 22:18 < rpifan> they cannot 22:18 <@JollyRgrs> Jagster`: GET RELT! 22:18 < rpifan> this is password reset for 22:18 < rpifan> our website 22:18 < rpifan> we are tech support for the website 22:18 < rpifan> we have an internal helpdesk human 22:19 < Jagster`> RELT? 22:20 < xamithan> So you trying to put that helpdesk human out of work, you monster 22:21 < rpifan> nop 22:21 < rpifan> my script automates website password resets 22:21 < rpifan> im also working on a script to automate email resets 22:21 < rpifan> or email updates 22:21 < xamithan> Does it also prevent abuse 22:21 < rpifan> but its a huge problem 22:21 < rpifan> well there isnt much to be abused 22:21 < xamithan> What if someone gets on there and spams the script 22:21 < rpifan> its not any worse then using swagger 22:22 < rpifan> it uses the same api 22:22 < rpifan> it cant touch anything that swagger cant 22:22 < aName> Ugh. I want to tell these people on Ebay selling thunderbolt enclosures without the gpu 'Dude, I know you bought the GPU to mine and you're just trying to recoup some of the cost, but you already got the GPU below market rate, c'mon do a brother a solid' 22:23 < aName> But no, they want 300 bucks for an empty eGPU that cost 600 originally 22:23 < ebol4> what's thunderbolt enclosure? like an external hard drive enclosure but for a GPU? 22:23 < aName> Yeah 22:23 < ebol4> wow, had no idea that was possible 22:23 < ebol4> does it just have a pci-e port in it or what? 22:24 < sadbox> ebol4: yes 22:24 < aName> Yeah 22:24 < ebol4> crazy 22:24 < sadbox> ebol4: I mean, one of the things that TB can expose is a pcie port 22:24 < sadbox> which you can jam a graphics card in to 22:24 < aName> I've got an old, but still respectable GPU I want to use for my laptop 22:24 < ebol4> i just didn't know thunderbolt had that kind of bandwidth 22:24 < int0x1C8> its mainly for GPGP use, not using it for actual graphics 22:24 < aName> Yeah, 4x PCI express lanes 22:25 < aName> Which is not ideal for gaming 22:25 < aName> But it'll work 22:26 < sadbox> aName: I think that TB3 can actually do 2 4x lanes 22:26 < aName> Oh neat 22:28 < sadbox> also fun fact for anyone who didn't know 22:28 < sadbox> apple has launched support for egpus 22:28 < aName> "Meh" 22:28 < sadbox> antyhing 10.13.4 has it 22:28 < int0x1C8> only compatible with apple branded thunderbolt cables 22:28 < aName> lol 22:29 < aName> the worst part is I'm not sure if you're serious or not 22:29 < int0x1C8> me? 22:29 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking hell, I hate Mac Mail users 22:29 <+TuxedoJack> Mac Mail -> Outlook PST is not fucking easyt 22:29 < aName> int0x1C8: yeah 22:29 < int0x1C8> semi-serious 22:29 < aName> TuxedoJack: I propose that as an industry we all just gaslight everyone into thinking desktop mail clients weren't ever a thing 22:30 <+TuxedoJack> aName: just fucking use Outlook and be done with it 22:30 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auFAuuJ7s04 22:30 < aName> TuxedoJack: fuck you, outlook sucks 22:30 < int0x1C8> aName ++ 22:31 < aName> I'm sorry if that comes across as salty, but I am 22:33 < aName> We've got on-premise ZCS and there's never a word about it other than 'My password doesn't work' 22:33 < aName> Which is because you entered the wrong one and have to wait now 22:33 < AnimalFarmPig> Just had one of those, "Yeah, I mean if you really want it, we can do it, but it's probably going to take some time and be expensive. Are you sure you really want that and not ?" conversations. https://xkcd.com/1425/ 22:34 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: I've had to learn to be careful about those. People stop listening at the 'but' in "It's technically possible, but" 22:34 < int0x1C8> objects of my hate: PRINTERS >>> outlook > ... > difference between general internet connectivity, VPN connections, and RDP connections 22:34 < ebol4> my whole job is fielding those conversations 22:34 < ebol4> and then implementing whatever the result is 22:35 < AnimalFarmPig> aName: Just put the qualifiers up front-- "I will be very expensive, fragile, and buggy, but we can do it." 22:35 < AnimalFarmPig> s/I/It 22:35 < aName> int0x1C8: Heh, when I interviewed, they asked about weaknesses, as they do "I hate printers" "You're going to fit right in" 22:35 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: Good thinking, I like it. 22:36 < int0x1C8> during my interview it was "I hate printers" "I would've been deeply concerned if you didn't" 22:37 < aName> lol 22:38 < AnimalFarmPig> We're talking about syncing / creating & modifying user accounts between multiple systems. Right now it's just to allow their CMS users to enter a chat system. Now they want to add some kind of video hosting solution to it. Based on what users do in the CMS, their account level in the chat system gets elevated (not technically possible at this time), and based on user level in the chat system, they can then use the video hosting 22:38 < AnimalFarmPig> system. 22:38 < MillerBOSS> The problem is that there are so little people that like printers they get paid a lot to fix 22:38 < AnimalFarmPig> and I'm sure in six months they'll want to add some other thing into the mix 22:38 < AnimalFarmPig> probably printers 22:38 < abakedapplepie> no one likes printers 22:38 < abakedapplepie> some people just like money more than printers 22:38 < abakedapplepie> god bless them 22:39 < abakedapplepie> more than they hate printers* 22:39 < aName> yeah, we just call the printer tech and he comes and fixes it 22:39 < AnimalFarmPig> printers are the welshmen of IT 22:39 < aName> I'm happy to blackbox that 22:39 < scwizard> so you can't attach to containers on fargate directly 22:39 < scwizard> but you can get them to all log their output to aws's cloud logging thingy 22:39 < scwizard> which should be good enough 22:40 < abakedapplepie> AnimalFarmPig: sounds like you need SSO 22:40 < int0x1C8> I have begrudgingly learned how to support printers very well, but god do I hate it 22:40 < abakedapplepie> not individual synced accounts 22:40 < sadbox> scwizard: you can always run sshd inside the container, right? 22:40 < AnimalFarmPig> abakedapplepie: that's what I suggested. Just run a hosted AD and link everything to that. 22:40 < scwizard> sadbox: yes, but a container ones run thingy, so you can't run sshd and something that actually does something 22:40 < scwizard> *a container only runs one thingy 22:40 < sadbox> scwizard: is that a weird limitation of fargate 22:41 < aName> int0x1C8: I handle the software side of things and our print server is pretty awesome, to be honest - so I don't deal with it much day to day 22:41 < abakedapplepie> AnimalFarmPig: check out JumpCloud 22:41 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: isn't that the point of fargate? Abstracting the containers from the underlying EC2 instances, i.e. what ECS should have been in the first place 22:41 < abakedapplepie> its a hosted LDAP/SSO provider 22:41 < scwizard> sadbox: nothing to do with fargate, that's just the design patterns 22:41 < abakedapplepie> its basic as fuck but might work for you 22:41 < aName> int0x1C8: It's all the little personal printers, or godIhatethem - the special purpose printers 22:41 < scwizard> not being able to attach to running containers is a limitation of fargate 22:41 < sadbox> scwizard: a container can run whatever you want, it can run an init system or whatever 22:41 < scwizard> sadbox: yeah but that's an anti pattern 22:41 < aName> There's this dye sublimation badge printer that has a spool of CYMK sheets right? 22:41 < sadbox> scwizard: not being able to introspect a container is an anti-pattern 22:41 < int0x1C8> aName, that's pretty much all I support, all the 'normal' printers are contracted/leased 22:41 < aName> And of course the gear that turns the spool is worn to shit, so the alignment suffers 22:42 < aName> And you can't just buy one, oh no 22:42 < scwizard> sadbox: well it logs to cloudlog thing which is good enough 22:42 < abakedapplepie> aName: spares for decades? 22:42 < abakedapplepie> lol 22:42 < scwizard> what we're actually planning on doing 22:42 < scwizard> is a hybrid infra 22:42 < sadbox> scwizard: logs don't fix everything, what if I want to attach gdb do it? what if It breaks in a way you didn't expect? 22:42 < AnimalFarmPig> abakedapplepie: will check it out, thanks. This is for a client project. We're a VAR and "partner" of various companies, so we may have to go with something else (whatever makes the account manager money), but good to learn about stuff like this 22:42 < scwizard> sadbox: well here's the plan 22:42 < aName> abakedapplepie: I wish - I'm thinking I might actually be able to get the company to spring for a 3d printer the next time that badge printer breaks 22:42 < scwizard> we're going to use a hybrid infrastructure 22:42 < aName> abakedapplepie: And then just print new gears 22:42 < abakedapplepie> haha 22:43 < scwizard> where part of our infra is totally stateless and difficult to introspect and scales up and down really fast 22:43 < abakedapplepie> have you pulled the old gear out? 22:43 < scwizard> and that's in fargate 22:43 < abakedapplepie> just build up a few layers of nail polish to get it back in spec 22:43 < abakedapplepie> wcgw 22:43 < scwizard> and the other part of our infra is real ec2 instances running docker (and not docker swarm or k8s or anything) that you can ssh into and introspect and such 22:43 < aName> abakedapplepie: That's not an entirely terrible idea 22:43 < int0x1C8> I had the wonderful experience of trying to get this thing set up a few months ago http://horticulture.satoamerica.com/printers/txpsx-series.aspx 22:43 < abakedapplepie> aName: i know, because im a genius 22:43 < aName> abakedapplepie: It's a nylon gear to start with 22:43 < aName> abakedapplepie: So it's not like it was super durable to begin with 22:43 < scwizard> but yeah fargate containers have a lot of limitations 22:44 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: what kind of workload do you have that the work put into dynamic scaling costs less than simply allocating more resources? 22:44 < aName> abakedapplepie: But also I really want a 3d printer without having to spend my own money on it 22:44 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: idk it's cool and I'm being paid into it 22:44 < int0x1C8> inventory was going to order it without a NIC, and we said oh hell no, the salesguy actually fucking asked "why would it need an ethernet card" 22:44 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: ahhhh.... resume oriented development, nice :D 22:44 < scwizard> I'm not about to be like "hey the company could save money if they gave their devops consultant less hours" 22:44 < aName> abakedapplepie: I mean, I would provide my own filament... 22:44 < abakedapplepie> lol 22:44 < AnimalFarmPig> lol, yes 22:44 < scwizard> since said consultant is me 22:45 < sadbox> scwizard: I wouldn't ever sign up to run something that I can't inspect the runtime state of, who knows what would happen in fargate, different environments can have different failure modes 22:45 < abakedapplepie> i once considered trying to convince my boss to do 3d printing as a service 22:45 < scwizard> sadbox: hence why we have this more static infra as a fallback 22:45 < aName> abakedapplepie: I mostly want to print stuff for my aquarium 22:45 < int0x1C8> printer gets here and it is straight from 2002, unmanaged network card, had to go through dip switch configs to get the fucking thing an IP address 22:45 < abakedapplepie> hahahah what 22:45 < abakedapplepie> int0x1C8 thats crazy 22:45 < aName> abakedapplepie: There's so many different controller boxes for all my equipment and no one makes a good mounting solution 22:45 < scwizard> look fargate is really cool in theroy 22:45 < sadbox> scwizard: you're going to set up a static infra that can handle the full load of the magic AWS stuff? 22:45 < estranger> softset NICs... forgot about those 22:46 < aName> int0x1C8: That's a pretty static IP, that 22:46 < sadbox> why not just use... that 22:46 < AnimalFarmPig> int0x1C8: it didn't do dhcp!? 22:46 < int0x1C8> fuck no 22:46 < estranger> bootp only 22:46 < hxcsp> i worked on a plotter printer once that didnt do dhcp 22:46 < AnimalFarmPig> wow, that sucks 22:46 < scwizard> sadbox: yeah the "static infra" is really staticish, it will be aws autoscaling groups 22:46 < aName> I wouldn't want a printer on DHCP anyway 22:46 < int0x1C8> raw TCP 22:46 < aName> That sounds like a pain in the ass 22:46 < scwizard> which is relatively static compared to fargate 22:46 < AnimalFarmPig> let it do DHCP, assign a static lease on DHCP server 22:46 < abakedapplepie> DHCP + WSD driver = best printing evar 22:46 < abakedapplepie> /wrists 22:47 < hxcsp> you mean just printing period abakedapplepie 22:47 < estranger> everyone gets their own parallel port connected dot matrix printer 22:47 < aName> hxcsp: I want to build a small scale plotter and then use it to test the water in my aquarium 22:47 < scwizard> but yeah the idea of servers disapearing 22:47 < AnimalFarmPig> that way if you ever need to reconfigure network, you just make changes on dhcp server rather than every device manually set to static ip 22:47 < abakedapplepie> test water with a plotter? 22:47 < scwizard> and just having aws api and containers is cool 22:47 < hxcsp> yeah im confused 22:47 < aName> abakedapplepie: Instead of paper, I'd have rows of samples and reagent vials, and instead of a pen, I'd have a syringe 22:47 < scwizard> so I'm trying to go halfway there 22:47 < abakedapplepie> oh 22:47 < scwizard> since it's such cool tech 22:47 < abakedapplepie> i gotcha 22:47 < sadbox> scwizard: being able to debug what you're running is cool 22:47 < hxcsp> lol 22:48 < estranger> has anyone actually ran a large scale "Serverless" architecture here? 22:48 < scwizard> sadbox: you can debug it! using the cloud logs 22:48 < estranger> sadbox, +++++++++++++++++ 22:48 < aName> abakedapplepie: It doesn't seem like much of a stretch 22:48 < scwizard> estranger: this is a 12 man company so... 22:48 < abakedapplepie> no not at all 22:48 < int0x1C8> took me a day and a half to get it programmed for our network, and only 75% of that was trying to google hilariously outdated documentation to figure out how to do it 22:48 < abakedapplepie> but idk about using a plotter 22:48 < scwizard> and it's not gonna be totally serverless 22:48 < estranger> scwizard, serverless is a pain in the ass once you're off the happy path 22:48 < abakedapplepie> you might be better suited using off the shelf components 22:48 < aName> abakedapplepie: Well... a 2.5D CNC gantry anyway 22:48 < scwizard> just half one foot in that door 22:48 < sadbox> scwizard: I cannot count the number of times that checking the logs has failed me 22:48 < abakedapplepie> yeah 22:49 < estranger> everyone is going serverless and containers and not thinking it through 22:49 <@killdash9> I just connected some Ubuntu hosts to my Spacewalk server. I feel so dirty. 22:49 < estranger> then start crying cus they dunno what is going on 22:49 < scwizard> but yeah i can't deny this is resume driven development to a degree 22:49 < aName> abakedapplepie: I have no experience building CNC machines though, just operating them 22:49 < int0x1C8> the other 25% was actually doing the programming, set dip switch, turn on, print status to figure out what you're editing, turn it off, dip switch to set values, turn on, print status, AD NAUSEUM 22:49 < aName> abakedapplepie: So it's a bit of a long term project lol 22:49 < abakedapplepie> my cnc exp is limited to 3 years of running a board mill in high school 22:49 < scwizard> estranger: hence why I'm only going halfway there 22:49 < abakedapplepie> which was actually kinda neat 22:49 < scwizard> i've seen there's a lot of weaknesses 22:49 < aName> abakedapplepie: I ran a plasma cutter 22:49 < estranger> scwizard, thank you for doing research before jumpiing in head first :P 22:50 < AnimalFarmPig> estranger: I inherited a fairly large serverless architecture at job n - 1. It was for a tiny e-learning company and saw maybe a couple hundred requests per day. A non-zero number failed badly for various reasons. It was difficult to monitor, debug, develop on, update, etc. I was happy to go. 22:50 < aName> Which is neat at first, but mostly it's just really loud and failure-prone 22:50 < abakedapplepie> a lot of manual futzing with gcode 22:50 < aName> And it basically only cuts metal 22:50 < scwizard> estranger: research is kinda ongoing... 22:50 < aName> And only sheets 22:50 < scwizard> but the first thing I'm movin gover to this system 22:50 < aName> So it's pretty limiting 22:50 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, yup it looks good on paper but in practice.. not os much 22:50 < scwizard> can exist happily in paralell with prod as is 22:50 < abakedapplepie> yeah the board mill was a 6"x12" x/y 22:50 < scwizard> since it's job runners 22:50 < abakedapplepie> but it was fun 22:50 < abakedapplepie> learned a lot 22:50 < abakedapplepie> retained nothing 22:50 < aName> Oh heck, you can get one of those for like, 200 bucks on amazon these days 22:50 < abakedapplepie> yeah 22:51 < aName> That's what I was figuring on doing 22:51 < AnimalFarmPig> estranger: all that work and increased maintenance to save $30/mo on a small EC2 instance. 22:51 < estranger> and a couple hundred / day is tiny... and you already saw some of the operational pains 22:51 < aName> Once I've got a mill, modifying it for what I want to do shouldn't be too hard lol 22:51 < aName> It's just easier once I have something physical I can pick up and turn over in my hands 22:51 < estranger> jsut run your entire stack on a single GCP n1-ultramem-160 instance 22:51 < AnimalFarmPig> estranger: running into the same thing on my current back-burner project at work. I could run it easily and happily on a $5/mo scaleway VPS, but we need to do it in aws lambda for political reasons, and the whole things sucks. 22:52 < abakedapplepie> fucking politics 22:52 < sadbox> scwizard: FWIW if you -did- run ssh in your containers you could always do it in a cool way, like make a lil' cli to be able to log in to instance X of your jobs 22:52 < scwizard> sadbox: i already have a ssh container set up and working that we're using in development 22:52 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, i have passion for building highly scalable architectures... but most of the time you dont need to do all that shit cus it will never get to the point where it's actually needed 22:53 < JFDkthx> jesus 22:53 < AnimalFarmPig> estranger: same here 22:53 < JFDkthx> trying to get a new doctor 22:53 < scwizard> but it's just ssh 22:53 < JFDkthx> they ask why i am getting a new doctor 22:53 < JFDkthx> if it was for medical pot 22:53 < JFDkthx> like 22:53 < scwizard> having a container running ssh AND php is doing it wrong 22:53 < int0x1C8> lol 22:53 < estranger> so you just end up with an overcomplicated disitributed architecture handling the load of a single server 22:53 < JFDkthx> i just want a doctor 22:53 < int0x1C8> say yes 22:53 < JFDkthx> int0x1C8: i cant smoke week with the type of job i have 22:53 < JFDkthx> not even govt weed 22:53 < estranger> JFDkthx, id quit 22:54 < sadbox> scwizard: I would argue that having a container that you can't inspect is doing it worse, and it's just hacking around a limitation of the system that you are choosing 22:54 < estranger> #Priorities 22:54 < int0x1C8> JFDkthx, like practically, or do they drug test or what? 22:54 < AnimalFarmPig> there's no such thing as a free lunch. Something that can be written to run as a distributed set of stateless containers can be written to run as a distributed set of operating system processes. It will be faster and easier. 22:54 < scwizard> sadbox: you just gotta embrase the uninspectability to a degree 22:54 < JFDkthx> int0x1C8: yes 22:54 < AnimalFarmPig> and more performant 22:54 < sadbox> scwizard: you really don't 22:54 < scwizard> i think you do 22:55 < scwizard> for containers 22:55 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, im in the fun world of people trying to use stateFUL containers ! \o/ 22:55 < int0x1C8> drug testing is just another way of your employer saying they trust you as much as a child 22:55 < AnimalFarmPig> estranger: LXC/LXD/openVZ/Zones/etc. containers or Docker et. al "containers"? 22:56 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, docker/k8/dcos 22:56 < AnimalFarmPig> sorry amigo 22:56 < estranger> "so why do you want to put your DB on K8s?" "cus google" ................ 22:57 < scwizard> sigh 22:57 < AnimalFarmPig> don't you work in "fast data" where the application is supposed to be close to the data? Seems like putting a container between them is dumb, and putting a shim between the persistent storage layer and the actual storage is also dumb 22:57 < int0x1C8> ITS THE CLOUD *eyes glaze over* 22:57 < scwizard> don't worry i'm not doing anything silly like that 22:57 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, yeah we have a production-ready supported docker image now... glad im not on the support staff 22:57 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, yes I do.. and thats why we dont support K8s yet because stateful sets with LOCAL STORAGE is not GA yet 22:58 < estranger> they ahd a big release just now though.. but i didnt see SS w/ LS listed 22:58 < estranger> just some regional persistence bullshit 22:58 < AnimalFarmPig> I don't want to say that this is driven by people who don't know any better mindlessly following trends 22:58 < scwizard> hey I'm mindfully following trends >_> 22:59 < estranger> AnimalFarmPig, stateful sets w/ local storage won't have much of a hit really.. unless yer chasing those last ms or 2 22:59 < scwizard> there's a difference 22:59 < AnimalFarmPig> lol, not your fault, you're getting paid for it, scwizard 22:59 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: you're like the Mexican muffler shop guy in the Bubb Rubb video 22:59 < estranger> and thank you for not saying i work in big data :D 23:01 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: Speaking of which, where's my breakfast? 23:01 < AnimalFarmPig> aName: it's like an alarm clock! 23:07 < SynMonger> did someone say big data? 23:07 < int0x1C8> brought to you by carls jr 23:08 < ebol4> in powershell, what's the difference between get-scheduledtask and get-scheduledjob 23:08 < int0x1C8> well, one gets a task and the other gets a job 23:08 < aName> lol 23:08 < ebol4> i guess what i'm really asking is what the heck is a scheduled job 23:08 < ebol4> as opposed to a job in Task Scheduler 23:09 < AnimalFarmPig> it's like the difference between a hand task and a hand job 23:09 < aName> wtf is a hand task 23:09 < aName> "honey, if you have to ask, you can't afford it" 23:09 < int0x1C8> When scheduling a single job you may find it easier to just call the old school SCHTASKS command, for multiple jobs on multiple machines the PowerShell cmdlets will start to show their advantages. 23:09 < int0x1C8> Whichever method is used, the same Scheduled Job will result. 23:09 < aName> Sounds like job is the new one then 23:10 < int0x1C8> tl;dr they appear to be aliases 23:11 < ebol4> i ask because i'm trying to execute a task in task scheduler from powershell 23:11 < ebol4> by name 23:11 < ebol4> and in order to do that i think i need to do get-scheduledtask 23:11 < int0x1C8> https://ss64.com/ps/get-scheduledjob.html 23:11 < int0x1C8> job should work for that 23:12 < int0x1C8> er, I just tried it 23:12 < int0x1C8> apparently not 23:12 < int0x1C8> I think the jobs are PS-specific 23:12 < Runath> anyone know of a website where it's super easy to find parts for oem PCs? aside from ebay 23:13 < aName> Runath: Not offhand. Are you looking for something specific? 23:13 < int0x1C8> so if you create it or edit it with the cmdlet, its a job, if you do it though task scheduler its a task 23:13 < Runath> just a cmos battery for an a740 lenovo all in one 23:13 < aName> int0x1C8: Maybe it writes metadata to a reserved field for PS-specific stuff? 23:14 < Runath> i'd get a battery that looks like it fits and has the right spec but my boss wants it labeled as such lol 23:14 < aName> Runath: You've got a printer, right? 23:14 < Runath> yes 23:14 < aName> Well there you go =p 23:15 < aName> Actually 23:15 < aName> It looks like it's just a CR2032 with some leads heatshrunk in place 23:16 < Runath> also i just ran into my first PC with the syskey lockout, i tried copying the 5 files from ..config\regback into ..\config but the lock doesn't go away, tried it 5 times so far 23:16 < Runath> am i boned? just found out about this today, as i am a nooby 23:17 < aName> Runath: Naw, just mount the filesystem on another box, grab the files you want, and reimage 23:18 < Runath> that's what i figured, was just wondering if theres another way 23:18 < Runath> thanks! ♥ 23:18 < aName> There probably is 23:18 < ix007> battery you can get on amazon or frys 23:18 < aName> But the system is probably otherwise compromised 23:18 < aName> It's easier to just nuke it 23:18 < Runath> yessir 23:19 < Runath> i just like expert opinions to confirm my beliefs 23:19 < aName> Heh, expert. 23:19 < Runath> gives me more confidence on decisions in the future 23:19 < aName> I hear ya though 23:19 < aName> It's nice to hear it from someone else 23:19 < Runath> definitely 23:19 < aName> As far as the battery goes, just throw in part numbers into google shopping and pray 23:20 < aName> You probably won't find 'a740' specifically but if there's a part code you might find it listed under another model 23:21 < Runath> yeah, i take it 2032 batteries are practically the standard for cmos? 23:21 < Runath> obviously with most being oem heatshrink'd with leads 23:21 < aName> Yeah, although looking a bit more this does appear to be a lithium coincell 23:21 < aName> So a CR2032 would be too low-voltage 23:21 < aName> Wouldn't hurt anything, but it wouldn't work, either. 23:22 < Runath> ah okay. A thing to note btw: I havent read up on it too much, but it seems like lenovo has a way to grab old bios info somehow? 23:22 < aName> If you had a high-res photo of the battery I could probably find one in under ten minutes lol 23:22 < aName> Runath: Not a clue. I'd have to read more myself. 23:22 < Runath> i ask because when i power off the machine, and hold power when unplugged, the bios resets , sort of: 23:22 < aName> Yeah 23:23 < aName> Because it's battery backed 23:23 < aName> And the battery is dead 23:23 < aName> tbh, machines usually age out before this becomes a problem 23:23 < joelazot> god help me we are doing physics and im retarded 23:23 < Runath> but when i power into windows after the fact, the time is decently accurate, just minutes behind. But, if i boot into the bios before windows, seems like it goes back to oem time/date 23:24 < aName> Runath: The time is being updated by NTP, more than likely 23:24 < int0x1C8> joelazot what kind 23:24 < Runath> idk its weird, i'll figure it out after i open it. thans for the info tho 23:24 < joelazot> int0x1C8: like force and motion and shit 23:24 < Runath> NTP? Not sure what that is, lemme google 23:24 < joelazot> really basic physics i geuss 23:24 < Runath> computer is not on network btw: to eliminate the possibility of it being updated by iy 23:24 < Runath> it* 23:25 < int0x1C8> oh, hope you remember your vector calculus 23:25 < aName> Dunno then, I guess windows has some other way of working it out, I'm not sure 23:25 < joelazot> int0x1C8: the fuck is that 23:26 < joelazot> Welp ya boi's probably fucked 23:26 < aName> RIP 23:26 < aName> If you can't do vectors and you're taking calculus, this is gonna hurt 23:26 < aName> Err 23:26 < aName> s/calculus/physics 23:26 <@JollyRgrs> aName: yeah, lol 23:27 < joelazot> aName: i'm not taking calculus this is just 'general science' 23:27 <@JollyRgrs> that's all that physics 101 is 23:27 < joelazot> still probably fucked to 23:27 < joelazot> tho 23:27 <@JollyRgrs> what's the accel of this, what's the velocity of that 23:27 < joelazot> oh hi JollyRgrs 23:27 <@JollyRgrs> hi 23:27 <@JollyRgrs> i'm off to drive home 23:27 < aName> JollyRgrs: I play EVE and I was SO HAPPY when they added vectors to the tactical overlay 23:27 < joelazot> cya jolly 23:27 <@JollyRgrs> chow! 23:28 < scwizard> aName: ahh i can't play eve anymore 23:28 < scwizard> that game just stresses me out now 23:28 < int0x1C8> I have on my desk a book called "An Introductory Course on Differentiable Manifolds" 23:28 < scwizard> and everyone in the game hates me 23:28 < scwizard> so yeah 23:28 < aName> scwizard: Sounds like you had a shitty FC 23:28 < aName> scwizard: Can I have your stuff? 23:28 < scwizard> aName: i only have like uhh 2 bil 23:28 < scwizard> but sure 23:28 < aName> werrrrd 23:28 < aName> You don't have to be subbed anymore to login 23:29 < scwizard> yeah 23:29 < aName> So, uh, hit me up later and we'll connect 23:29 < scwizard> do u really want 2bil tho 23:29 < aName> I'm spacepoor. 23:29 < scwizard> it might not even be that 23:29 < aName> I'll take your SP too 23:29 < scwizard> same 23:29 < scwizard> oh yeah that's worth more 23:29 < aName> If you're really not coming back 23:29 < scwizard> i guess at this point why not 23:29 < scwizard> whats ur email? 23:29 < int0x1C8> I think my char's still logged in my Archon somewhere in period basis 23:30 < joelazot> aName: do you reckon a university will accept me based on the fact that i have real world exp but i am shit at school? 23:30 < int0x1C8> I haven't played since the BoB wars 23:30 < scwizard> aName: actually if i give you my stuff you need to do a good job of laundering it cause 23:30 < scwizard> if it looks like i'm trying to start a new char or something, then you could end up blacklisted from [places 23:31 < int0x1C8> are you GHSC? 23:31 < aName> What even is that? 23:31 < scwizard> i googled it 23:31 < int0x1C8> guiding hand social club 23:31 < scwizard> apparently ti's some ancient shit 23:31 < scwizard> [16:30] I haven't played since the BoB wars <- so yeah ancient 23:32 < aName> Yeah, BoB is just before my time 23:32 < Runath> I need to lurk this place more 23:32 < scwizard> aName: but do you think you can figure out how to transfer things cleanly, i don't want to infect you with my reputation 23:33 < aName> scwizard: lol I'm intrigued 23:33 < Runath> I want to move up the IT ladder but shit man if i'm not consistent about taking in new info outside of work 23:33 < aName> scwizard: But I've got a pretty solid rep with my alliance 23:33 < scwizard> it's really not that intriguing 23:33 < scwizard> which alliance? 23:33 < aName> scwizard: and I can transfer it through a couple alphas 23:33 < scwizard> k 23:34 <+TuxedoJack> Mac Mail -> MBOX -> EMLX -> PST 23:34 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking assclowns 23:34 < DeVito> You called? 23:39 < joelazot> Quick question about University guys 23:40 < joelazot> Do you guys think i'll get in since i have real world experience even though im retarded with school subjects? 23:40 < genr8_> have backup schools 23:40 < scwizard> ugg just thinking about eve was raising my blood pressure 23:41 < scwizard> i can't wait to biomass all my chars 23:45 < joelazot> genr8_ there's only like 1 school thats actually good for sysadmin shit in my country FeelsBadMan 23:45 < genr8_> you need backup schools for computer science 23:46 < joelazot> i'm not gonna get a CompSci degree 23:46 < genr8_> sysadmin schools dont really exist in the US. too big. you just go to college. 23:46 < genr8_> what then ? 23:46 < joelazot> In NZ there's like one school that has a degree entitled "Information and communication technology (system administration focus)" 23:46 < joelazot> I live in NZ 23:46 < joelazot> plus i have a mate who works there as a sysadmin 23:46 < genr8_> thats way too specific and you might not get in 23:47 < genr8_> what do i know though 23:47 < joelazot> It's pretty easy to get in you just gotta have a university enterance 23:48 < genr8_> going to college is not a right, and its also not anyones obligation to make sure you match job field to your particular interests. you'd be considered lucky if you pull both of those off 23:49 < genr8_> so good luck 23:49 < joelazot> yeah i know if i probably wont get in 23:49 < joelazot> worst case i'll just do certs oppose to a degree 23:52 < genr8_> id say thats a good plan A and plan C and you need a plan B :p 23:55 < Hunterkll> any more server room bombs today? 23:57 < xe0n> only if you've eaten a curry the night before --- Log closed Tue May 22 00:00:28 2018