--- Log opened Sun May 27 00:00:34 2018
00:17 < Jekotia> agris: Late but, maybe it is personal? Maybe he's the owners long-lost son, and he's waiting for the day to tell his father?
00:17 < Jekotia> MrFantastik: No experience, but #openwrt would likely be able to offer better help
00:17 < agris> creepy Jekotia
00:18 < Jekotia> agris: NO U
00:45 < Jekotia> anyone know of any smtp relays that can listen on a network port? I'd rather avoid something like postfix as it's significantly bloated compared to my use case, and my previous go-to, msmtp, only works for things using a mail command on the same host :/
00:50 < catbeard> https://i.imgur.com/1S7QW9g.mp4
00:54 < Jekotia> nvm, think I found a docker image to bastardize
02:02 < rpifan> idk how ppl can put up with these kind of warzone like environments
02:02 < rpifan> cops everywhere
02:02 < rpifan> cosig down the streets
02:02 < rpifan> i swear it would take nothign to just declare martial law
02:03 < DLSteve> I rarely see cops in my area lol, they drive by every one and a while.
02:03 < rpifan> miami beach is a wreck today
02:14 <@cryptic1> ban rpifan
02:14 <@cryptic1> oops that was supposed to be a command
02:16 < rpifan> alright
02:16 < rpifan> hurry up
02:16  * rpifan drops pants
02:19 <@cryptic1> O_o
02:19 < rpifan> spanking is like banning
02:20 <@cryptic1> no no its not hunterkll
02:24 < Grandparick> hey guys
02:24 < Grandparick> I was never able to setup my 2 gamers 1 pc rig
02:25 < Grandparick> freaking rx 580 needed a +6 and +8
02:25 < Grandparick> but would anyone know how overprovisioning effects write endurance?
02:28 < coderphive> Alright
02:29 < coderphive> idk what I was going to say
02:29 < coderphive> My mac powered on and shoved Textual in my face
02:29 < coderphive> specifically to this channel
02:44  * precise pokes crowd42 
02:44  * precise pokes cryptic1 
02:44 < precise> crowd42: change ur nick #srynotsry
02:45 < Grandparick> anyone know about overprovisioning?
02:48 < eHAPPY> Grandparick i might can help, whats up
02:50 < sideup66> Lmao https://sideup66.crabdance.com/owncloud/index.php/s/9CDHwZD7uqRqpYL
02:56 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY I'm thinking about putting aside 30% of my SSD(50GB)
02:56 < Grandparick> so that I can increase my write endurance by A LOT
02:56 < Grandparick> cause I know an S3500 has 10% overprovisioning and is getting 0.3DWPD, while a S3700 has 30% overprovisioning and is getting 10DWPD
02:58 < rhqq> evening
03:01  * precise meanders over to #gnome to debate why KDE is better
03:01 < rhqq> geez
03:01 < Hunterkll> 'it doesn't look retarded'
03:01 < rhqq> well
03:01 < Hunterkll> 'it doesn't ship on solaris by defaullt'
03:01 < rhqq> to me kde felt retarded :P
03:01 < rhqq> but its personal, as always
03:01 < Hunterkll> KDE4 and up? sure
03:01 < Hunterkll> KDE 3.5 4 lyfe
03:01 < Hunterkll> KDE since 2001 bro
03:01 < Hunterkll> and fluxbox
03:02 < Hunterkll> fluxbox on windows XP all the way
03:02 < rhqq> i used gtk based shit and in fact i really liked gnome3 when it was released, even though it was quite controversial
03:02 < Hunterkll> look at this cringe fest from 2004 that was my desktop: https://i.imgur.com/PjZyNuU.png
03:02 < precise> I actually use Gnome3
03:03 < precise> So... :P
03:03 < Hunterkll> *feels retarted*
03:03 < rhqq> i do use gnome 3, i really like it's "plug and play"-ability
03:03 < precise> rhqq: So do I
03:03 < Hunterkll> I dated the photo based on the X11 version i just downloaded to compile
03:03 < Hunterkll> lol
03:03 < Hunterkll> oh
03:03 < precise> But I'm on Debian Stretch so I can't upgrade my Gnome version, there's an extension that I want that is >3.24
03:03 < Hunterkll> ... and the fact that the year is showin in two terminalls
03:03 < Hunterkll> i missed that
03:03 < rhqq> omgz, Hunterkll you used to be a typical anime-linux nerd
03:03 < precise> used to be?
03:03 < Hunterkll> rhqq, I WAS LIKE 15 AND SCRAWNY AS FUCK
03:03 < rhqq> nerd-kid*
03:04 < Hunterkll> I was no where near typical
03:04 < Hunterkll> loll
03:04 < rhqq> let me ask you, did you listen to power metal as well? :P
03:04 < Hunterkll> no
03:04 < Hunterkll> i was too busy getting laid in highschool for that
03:04 < Hunterkll> and being physically violent sometimes
03:04 < rhqq> .that happened
03:04 < rhqq> :P
03:04 < Hunterkll> it did
03:04 < Hunterkll> girl's grandma found used pregnancy tests one time
03:04 < Hunterkll> had to calll my mom
03:05 < Hunterkll> well that was interesting
03:05 < rhqq> well, i wouldnt believe you if i didnt get laid in highschool
03:05 < Hunterkll> >_<
03:05 < rhqq> ;p
03:05 < Hunterkll> llol
03:05 < precise> >lies about getting laid
03:05 < Hunterkll> rhqq, i'm sure it didn't help that i rode a motorcycle to school when i was 16 .... ;)
03:05 < precise> >while in highschool
03:05 < precise> >after graduating
03:05 < Hunterkll> apparently I was the first one to ever do that
03:05 < rhqq> Hunterkll: i was in medival recreation group
03:05 < Hunterkll> oh
03:05 < Hunterkll> shit
03:05 < rhqq> so i was also swinging bastard sword
03:05 < Hunterkll> that's easy
03:05 < rhqq> ;p
03:05 < Hunterkll> you're cheating
03:06 < rhqq> you know, anime, long hair, nerdy look and sword
03:06 < Hunterkll> honestly, my dad signed me up for the motorcyclel class after i totaled my first car
03:06 < Hunterkll> lol
03:06 < eHAPPY> Grandparick well that would be underprovisioning and yes but do it when you format not in hypervisor
03:06 < Hunterkll> I didn't really have the long hair or nerdy look
03:06 < rhqq> pretty much same reason kids dont get laid anymore for
03:06 < rhqq> xD
03:06 < Hunterkll> I did do the gothy thing for a while maybe?
03:06 < rhqq> other thing recreation group made me fit as fuck
03:06 < rhqq> full metalhead mode ;p
03:06 < Hunterkll> leather collar type black clothing shit
03:06 < Hunterkll> but nothing really worse than that
03:06 < Hunterkll> to be honest i realllly havn't changed that much
03:07 < Hunterkll> my pants size hasn't even changed since i was like 15/16
03:07 < rhqq> i gained like 30 kilos
03:07 < rhqq> xD
03:07 < rhqq> well, then lost 20
03:07 < rhqq> but still
03:07 < Hunterkll> yea i still got a 32/34 waistband
03:07 < Hunterkll> llol
03:07 < Hunterkll> skinny jeans i wear a size ... 12? 14?
03:07 < eHAPPY> Grandparick which S3500 do you habe? even my 80gb ones are just fine years later
03:07 < Hunterkll> in womens
03:07 < Hunterkll> i forget
03:07 < rhqq> no idea what does that mean in ueeue units
03:07 < rhqq>  xD
03:08 < Hunterkll> rhqq, uhh 32 inches is 81 centimeter?
03:08 < Hunterkll> lol
03:08 < rhqq> ah, so thats inches
03:08 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY, I was gonna tell windows to shrink my current C:\ drive, and take that extra space and tell samsung magician to use it as overprovisioning space
03:08 < rhqq> i thought its some kind of size number
03:08 < eHAPPY> Grandparick also theres more to S35xx vs S3700 than just padding
03:08 < rhqq> for clothing or whatever
03:08 < eHAPPY> Grandparick ah ok
03:08 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY, I have an 860 evo
03:08 < Hunterkll> rhqq, apparentlyl i just add ten
03:08 < Hunterkll> so i'm a '42' in euro sizes
03:08 < Hunterkll> apparently
03:09 < rhqq> i remember 3 years ago i worked my ass hard to get into pants that i wore in high school
03:09 < rhqq> only reason i kept them for over a decade
03:09 < Hunterkll> lol
03:09 < rhqq> 36
03:09 < rhqq> :D
03:09 < Hunterkll> and now you don't fit again anymore? :P
03:09 < eHAPPY> Grandparick odds are you wont need it if its in a desktop
03:09 < rhqq> now im 38
03:09 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY, and currently I'm writing 200GB/day, and I just recently added a SSD Cache on it in front of a 1TB HDD(for games)
03:09 < Hunterkll> :D
03:09 < rhqq> so its not that bad ;p
03:09 < eHAPPY> Grandparick ah gotcha
03:09 < Hunterkll> huh
03:09 < Hunterkll> did myspace have a data loss incident?
03:09 < Hunterkll> some of my pictures won't load
03:09 < rhqq> numerous of times in the past
03:09 < eHAPPY> 200gb/day in a desktop?
03:09 < Grandparick> yeah
03:10 < eHAPPY> o.O wow
03:10 < Grandparick> its 604GB over the last 84 power on hours
03:10 < Grandparick> but I run my PC 24/7
03:10 < eHAPPY> but how?
03:10 < eHAPPY> downloads or something
03:10 < Grandparick> 3 gamers 1 PC
03:10 < Grandparick> and yes
03:10 < rhqq> more of time spent downloading than playing
03:10 < rhqq> xD
03:10 < Grandparick> @rhqq nah lol
03:10 < Hunterkll> lol
03:10 < Grandparick> I have a REALLY good internet connection
03:11 < Hunterkll> thats a shame
03:11 < Hunterkll> it seems some myspace photos are lost to time
03:11 < Grandparick> had 1Gbps which averaged 600Mbps, downgraded to 100Mbps and got a full 100/100, and im probably gonna upgrade back to the Gbps again
03:11 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY so yeah
03:12 < Grandparick> if I overprovision it
03:12 < sideup66> Grandparick: why the fuck is your average so low
03:12 < Grandparick> do you think I could pull off 30DWPD?
03:12 < Hunterkll> If you are missing photos that means we no longer had a copy of the photos to transfer to the new site.
03:12 < Hunterkll> :'(
03:12 < Grandparick> @sideup66 idk honestly
03:12 < sideup66> Shitty router?
03:12 < Hunterkll> If there are albums/photos with a holding space for images but the images do not load, that means the photos are no longer located on our servers and we cannot assist with retrieving your photos.
03:12 < sideup66> Could be router
03:12 < Hunterkll> :(((((
03:12 < Grandparick> I tested from my router itself to youtube's servers
03:12 < Grandparick> so it could be anywhere along the line
03:12 < sideup66> Speed test on pc? Wifi? Hardline?
03:12 < rhqq> Hunterkll: yeah, shit happens
03:12 < eHAPPY> Grandparick im hoping to get 1gbps soon, just built a quadcore router
03:12 < Hunterkll> fuuck
03:12 < Grandparick> peering issues/youtube/router etc
03:12 < eHAPPY> then ill need to add another 4U
03:12 < Hunterkll> that means the olld catholic schoolgirl images are missing
03:12 < sideup66> Router shitty?
03:12 < Hunterkll> fuck
03:13 < Hunterkll> WAIT
03:13 < Hunterkll> they might still be on my ex's myspace
03:13 < eHAPPY> sideup66 4 core atom
03:13 < Grandparick> @sideup66 nah its not that bad, its a google wifi
03:13 < Hunterkll> ahahahaha
03:13 < Hunterkll> judging from the badge i suspect that's katsucon
03:13 < Hunterkll> otakon badges were different back then
03:13 < Hunterkll> rhqq, https://i.imgur.com/8goG4p6.png
03:14 < Hunterkll> one on the right was my ex fiancee
03:14 < Hunterkll> thank god the military beat that nonsense out of me
03:14 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY so do you think that would work?
03:14 < rhqq> Hunterkll: that collar looks like a priest
03:14 < rhqq> xD
03:14 < Hunterkll> I did fuck her in the subway once at like 3AM
03:14 < Hunterkll> rhqq, that's the point
03:14 < Hunterkll> i'm hollding a fucking bible
03:14 < sideup66> Grandparick: wtf even more
03:14 < Hunterkll> with two catholic schoolgirlls on their knees
03:14 < Hunterkll> lllol
03:14 < sideup66> Google fiber?
03:14 < rhqq> xD
03:15 < eHAPPY> Grandparick yeah
03:15 < Hunterkll> but yea
03:15 < Hunterkll> empty subway cars at 3AM going queens bound
03:15 < Grandparick> @sideup66 nah google fiber
03:15 < Hunterkll> fun times
03:16 < Hunterkll> rhqq, sadly the collar was just follded up paper
03:16 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY so right now I'm getting 0.3DWPD, using I think 10% OP?
03:16 < Grandparick> if I tell it to use 30%
03:16 < Grandparick> can I get 10DWPD?
03:16 < Grandparick> @sideup66 not google fiber my bad
03:16 < Grandparick> verizon fios
03:17 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/OPAJFqR.png <-- how the fuck does this make sense
03:19 < SleePy> Why are you looking for those search terms?
03:19 < Hunterkll> i wasn't
03:19 < Hunterkll> that pics old as fuck
03:19 < Hunterkll> no idea what was being searched there
03:19 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY, so does overprovisioning work exponentially like that?
03:19 < Hunterkll> SleePy, i can't have searched taht recently, the 'view image' button is still there :P
03:20 < SleePy> hm, I try to reverse search the image, googles best guess is its a screenshot...
03:20 < Hunterkll> lol
03:21 < Hunterkll> i like how i still luse my myspace account
03:21 < sideup66> Oh
03:21 < SleePy> Its not wrong, just not what I wanted to know.
03:21 < eHAPPY> Grandparick overprovision would be 100gb ssd to 120gb ssd, you want underprovision which is 100gb to 80gb ssd essentially
03:21 < sideup66> Ok lol,also wtf phone? Why does Snapchat randomly crash it and generally run like shit
03:21 < SleePy> I switched to spacebook a while back.
03:21 < Hunterkll> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
03:21 < Hunterkll> I HAVE TO BE IN ATLANTIC CITY THAT WEEKEND
03:21 < eHAPPY> Grandparick no, dont base off of s3500 vs s3700 writes
03:21 < sideup66> Wut
03:21 < Hunterkll> UGHHH
03:22 < Hunterkll> Anyways… we are hosting a not-a-flamethrower pick up party in Los Angeles on June 9, 2018 from noon to 5 pm. Up to 1,000 customers can pick up their not-a-flamethrower, toast some marshmallows, take some fun pics, prep to take on a zombie horde, and (of course) receive a refund for their shipping charges.
03:22 < eHAPPY> Grandparick it will help but idk how to tell, depends on the nand and controller
03:23 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY, its an 860 evo
03:23 < SleePy> Tell you what.  First 4k TV.  The "flow" of animation or movement is driving me crazy
03:23 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY, its an MJX controller
03:26 < sideup66> Is it my phone only
03:26 < sideup66> Or is Snapchat that shitty of an app on Android
03:26 < sideup66> Runs like butt and can even cause a crash
03:34 < precise> Solution: Don't use Snapchat.
03:35 < rpifan> i need some sysadmin support
03:35 < rpifan> sae me
03:36 < lineman60> ??
03:36 < rpifan> SAE
03:36 < rpifan> society of american engineers
03:43 < SleePy> helpdesk is closed.
03:43 < rpifan> why
03:43  * rpifan knocks on the window
03:43 < SleePy> India holiday
03:44 < rpifan> lol
03:44  * precise closes the blinds
03:44 < SpeakerToMeat> rpifan: Boy you are everywhere ain't you?
03:45 < SpeakerToMeat> Hmm who do I know that's not cryptic1 and is online....
03:45 < precise> Me?
03:45 < SpeakerToMeat> Not so much, but you'll do.ç
03:45 < SpeakerToMeat> precise: Can I msg you to ask a short favor?
03:45 < precise> sure
03:46 < rpifan> i try
03:47 <@cryptic1> heh
03:47 < precise> Oh hi cryptic1
03:47 <@cryptic1> hey :)
03:47 < SpeakerToMeat> Damn, it's always hard to visit your friends page in steam and see that passed on friend's name you refuse to delete.. "last online 3774 days ago"
03:47 < precise> ferk
03:47 < precise> That's rough
03:47 < SpeakerToMeat> precise: thank you very much
03:47 < precise> p
03:47 < precise> np
03:47 < Hunterkll> rhqq, found it
03:47 < precise> cryptic1: Happy $AmericanHolidy
03:47 < precise> cryptic1: What are you up to?
03:48 < Hunterkll> rhqq, i wasn't joking about fluxbox on windows XP - https://i.imgur.com/irjLzQE.png
03:48 < rhqq> what am i looking at
03:48 < rhqq> ah
03:48 <@cryptic1> precise, lurking
03:48 < rhqq> ok
03:48 < precise> cryptic1: same
03:48 < precise> I'm moving between like 10 chans
03:48 < precise> lol
03:49 < precise> It's quiet today
03:49 < SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: Sorry to drag you out of the woodworks
03:52 < Hunterkll> rhqq, my 2005 windows xp laptop
03:52 < Hunterkll> :P
03:53 < rhqq> how old were you
03:53 < Hunterkll> uhhh
03:53 < Hunterkll> 15-16 maybe?
03:53 < Hunterkll> maybe less?
03:53  * Hunterkll maths
03:53 < rhqq> xD
03:53 < rhqq> *opens `bc`
03:53 < Hunterkll> yea somewhere around there
03:54 < Hunterkll> one of the girls i'm AIMing i went to Otakon 2004 with
03:54 < Hunterkll> so
03:54 < rhqq> around that time i was playing with rectos
03:54 < Hunterkll> i was learning french with her
03:54 < Hunterkll> oh well
03:54 < rhqq> anyways
03:54 < rhqq> 4am here
03:54 < rhqq> about to
03:54 < rhqq> about to hit the hay
03:54 < rhqq> cya o/
04:06 < Hunterkll> New team member: omg what’s wrong with her!!
04:06 < Hunterkll> You: oh that’s Lucy, she doesn’t smoke so she’s just having her quick 10min seizure break.
04:25 <@killdash9> man, I don't get seizure breaks. First smokers outside for 20 minutes every two hours and now epileptics. this is bullshit.
04:25 < rpifan> i wonder how the ppl at my office smoke
04:25 < rpifan> we are on the 23 floor
04:25 < rpifan> it must take forever to go on a smoke break
04:26 <@killdash9> there are people at my work that take literal 30-40 minute smoke breaks. It's like a damn social club out there.
04:26 < rpifan> lol
04:37 < Hunterkll> .... that pretty much is what it is
04:40 < SleePy> Back when I worked grocery, I took the smoke breaks just to hang out with them for the 30 minutes they took
04:42 < CharlesA> Sounds like a nice plan tbh
04:42 < Hunterkll> untill the manager finds out you don't smoke
04:42 < Hunterkll> :p
04:42 < CharlesA> pffft
04:43 < CharlesA> smokers seem to get more breaks.
04:43 < CharlesA> :|
04:43 < Hunterkll> we're more important
04:43 < Hunterkll> duh
04:43 < Hunterkll> and have less anger issues
04:43 < Hunterkll> it's therapy
04:43 < Hunterkll> medical excuse
04:43 < Hunterkll> ADA
04:43 < Hunterkll> you can't stop this
04:45 < SleePy> I just hung out with them all the time so they couldn't really tell.  Although the 2nd hand smoke was tricky to try and avoid.  Hang out close enough, but keep a path for fresh air
04:45 < CharlesA> Looks like my main router decided to take a dump on me. I've been troubleshooting it for the last few hours, but set up pfsense to get back online.
04:45 < CharlesA> hurray.
04:48 < Grandparick> @eHAPPY, I found out
04:48 < Grandparick> eHAPPY
04:48 < Grandparick> a doubling in overprovisioning gives you 15.5% more endurance
04:49 <@killdash9> I'll hang out with the smokers about once a week. Occasionally I'll even bring along a small cigar if I know they'll be out there a while on a slow work day
04:49 <@JollyRgrs> killdash9: for your 4 hr smoke sessions?
05:44 < SleePy> Too much noise in here
05:52 < abakedapplepie> QUIET DOWN
05:55 < MadCamel> shut up I'm trying to think
05:55 < precise> lalalalalalalalalal
05:59 < precise> lmao
05:59 < precise> http://nexrad.allisonhouse.com/
06:00 < precise> I just want mah radar
06:03 < m4221> rhqq:
06:18 <+NinjaStyle> Ayy
06:19 < lineman60> NinjaStyle you now the fonz?
06:19 <+NinjaStyle> Always
06:23 <+NinjaStyle> What's everyone up yo
06:23 <+NinjaStyle> To*
06:25 < lineman60> Watching GiantBomb, You?
06:26 < Hunterkll> OH FINALLY
06:26 < Hunterkll> they renamed it 'store' instead of rewards
06:26 < Hunterkll> fuckers
06:26 < Casteil> moved my office back down downstairs.. 10 degrees cooler down here ._.
06:26 <+NinjaStyle> I'm watching s2 of 13 reasons why
06:26  * NinjaStyle waits to be bullied
06:28  * Casteil throws an anvil at NinjaStyle 
06:34 < Hunterkll> llloll fuck
06:35 <+NinjaStyle> Don't bully me
06:35 < Hunterkll> i just locked myself out of steam
06:35 < Hunterkll> There have been too many login failures from your network in a short time period. Please wait and try again later.
06:35 < Hunterkll> no bitch
06:35 < Hunterkll> there were no failures
06:35 < Hunterkll> except the failure of the steam app to ask for my steamguard code
06:35 < Hunterkll> i have 14 new steamguard codes in my email though from each attempt! :D
06:56 < MillerBOSS> Thanks ned0 thats great!
06:58 < MillerBOSS> So I was driving and I turn on talk radio and that silly show Coast to Coast is on. Talking with a Dr at alcor.org I hear cryptic1 is going to put himself there
07:00 < Hunterkll> hahaa
07:00 < Hunterkll> i llove coast to coast
07:01 < MillerBOSS> Yeah where all the crazies go
07:01 < MillerBOSS> No wonder why its on after midnight
07:01 < Hunterkll> i used to call in all the time when i was in highschool
07:01 < MillerBOSS> :P
07:01 < Hunterkll> used to be a 2AM show iirc
07:02 < MillerBOSS> Looking at Tunein radio it looks like best of coast to coast
07:08 < MillerBOSS> What are you brewing tonight over there Hunterkll ?
07:09 < Hunterkll> nothin'
07:20 < MillerBOSS> Well that is no fun.
07:39 < MadCamel> coast to coast is the best
07:40 < MillerBOSS> Yeah if you believe in aliens and all that :P
07:40 < MillerBOSS> Isn't that all the talk about usually?
07:40 < Hunterkll> nahhh
07:42 < Hunterkll> urghhh
07:42 < Hunterkll> i'm sooo cllose to pulling the trigger on this
07:42 < Hunterkll> EOS-1V :)
07:44 < Atro> Arista?
07:45 < Hunterkll> ?
07:45 < Hunterkll> Atro, camera
07:45 < Hunterkll> fuck it
07:46 < Hunterkll> i'lll go for the EOS-3
07:46 < Hunterkll> half the price
07:50 < MillerBOSS> https://imgur.com/gallery/opy1yzN
08:16 < abakedapplepie> Casteil: lol are you playing destiny
08:17 < abakedapplepie> im in a lobby with someone named casteil
08:17 < abakedapplepie> oh this guy is castiel
08:20 < MillerBOSS> Lobby bar, right in the lobby
08:25 < MillerBOSS> Where are all the lurkers?
08:25 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De0bCQVER6k
09:41 < Hunterkll> huh
09:41 < Hunterkll> the ebay paypal divorce must be proceeding as pllanned
09:41 < Hunterkll> they're asking for credit/debit card up front now instead of paypal as default
09:41 < Hunterkll> :o
09:44 < MillerBOSS> Thats gonna be interesting when that happens
09:44 < MillerBOSS> Or will they keep PayPal an option
09:44 < Hunterkll> oh i'm sure they'llll keep it
09:44 < Hunterkll> but it's no llonger default
09:45 < Hunterkll> just asking for straight CC is now default
09:46 < MillerBOSS> So eBay will be a real merchant now. So now thinking about it why didn't they do this years ago before buying PayPal then selling it
09:46 < Hunterkll> nah
09:46 < Hunterkll> https://www.recode.net/2018/1/31/16957212/ebay-adyen-paypal-payments-agreement
09:47 < Hunterkll> Adyen’s business is solely focused on providing back-end payments services, like credit card processing, to businesses, so you won’t see any Adyen payment buttons pop up on eBay.
09:48 < MillerBOSS> Oh thats right Adyen
09:48 < MillerBOSS> Like another WorldPay
09:48 < MillerBOSS> Right
09:49 < MillerBOSS> So I wonder if bay sellers need to get an Adyen account then
09:49 < Hunterkll> i dunno
09:49 < Hunterkll> it hasn't happened to me yet
09:50 < MillerBOSS> The move is also expected to eventually add $2 billion of revenue to the eBay business, because the company will start to charge eBay sellers for the payments service; today, PayPal does.
09:50 < MillerBOSS> More money to ebay
10:13 < Hunterkll> lllol
10:21 < Hunterkll> quarterly powercycle test for the BBS
10:21 < Hunterkll> don't die on me now you lil ol ps/2!
10:21 < Hunterkll> YAY THE DOS IS THE BOOTING
10:21 < Hunterkll> it is dnot dead yet
10:21 < Hunterkll> modem responded fine
10:21 < Hunterkll> we are back online
10:21 < Hunterkll> :D
10:21 < MillerBOSS> https://nextup.com/ go to nuance. See English samples. So Apple uses Nuance's technology voices? I assumed that was Apple.
10:22 < Hunterkll> it's a nuanced issue
10:22 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, for what though, just text to speech in OS X or?
10:23 < MillerBOSS> Yeah the voices under here https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-27-03-23-13-Z.png are the same
10:23 < MillerBOSS> Or ol Siri voices
10:25 < Hunterkll> siri was a person tho
10:25 < MillerBOSS> This is cool kinda http://www.wizzardsoftware.com/text-to-speech-tts.php make sure flash is on. Give it English and it will speak Spanish on the fly
10:25 < MillerBOSS> Yeah
10:26 < MillerBOSS> https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/09/apple-speech-team-head-how-siri-learns-a-new-language/ Alex Acero currently leads the speech team at Apple, who joined the company in 2013. Siri voice recognition was once powered by Nuance, Apple replaced it a couple of a years ago with a custom-built in-house voice platform that relies heavily on machine learning to improve its understanding of words.
10:26 < Hunterkll> i wonder if i have work monday
10:26 < MillerBOSS> No you don't. :)
10:26  * Hunterkll checks to see if mandatory holiday is on the timesheet or not
10:26 < MillerBOSS> Whats the purpose of your BBS?
10:27 < Hunterkll> for people to dial in
10:27 < Hunterkll> and swap messages and files
10:27 < Hunterkll> and pllay games
10:27 < MillerBOSS> Why still when we have faster means to exchange files?
10:27 < Hunterkll> because it's fun
10:27 < Hunterkll> and authentic
10:28 < MillerBOSS> I figured you'd say something like that :)
10:28 < MillerBOSS> Nothing wrong with that
10:28 < Hunterkll> it's on an IBM PS/2 Model 70 blue lightning running at ... 33mhz, i think, 30MB ESDI direct-attach MCA hard drive, and 8MB ram
10:28 < Hunterkll> 4MB of which is overclocked to work in the system
10:28 < Hunterkll> overclocked. with a soldering iron
10:28 < Hunterkll> (MPD lines jumpered to read as 80ns instead of 85ns ram)
10:29 < MillerBOSS> Interesting
10:29 < Hunterkll> yup
10:29 < Hunterkll> mandatory holiday monday
10:29 < Hunterkll> involuntary 3 day weekend wooo
10:29 < MillerBOSS> Thats good
10:30 < MillerBOSS> So, this exists http://www.sidify.com/
10:30 < Hunterkll> fuck that
10:30 < Hunterkll> i used to work every holiday
10:30 < Hunterkll> when we didn't have mandatory holidays
10:30 < Hunterkll> used to be they were all floating and i could use the holiday hours whenever
10:30 < Hunterkll> :'(
10:30 < MillerBOSS> Browsing the 0day warez
11:04 < Hunterkll> lol
11:04 < Hunterkll> buying $3.99 item with free shipping on amazon
11:04 < Hunterkll> lalwdy
11:06 < MillerBOSS> Whats up with that?
11:06 < Hunterkll> lens hood
11:06 < Hunterkll> just amusing
11:06 < MillerBOSS> Wow these Elis movies are hilarious
11:06 < MillerBOSS> Elvis
11:07 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-27-04-07-29-9.png
11:07 < MillerBOSS> Don't you have Prime though?
11:07 < Hunterkll> yes... that's why it's free...
11:08 < Hunterkll> i'm just amused at firing off so many one-off orders for dumb cheap things without paying shipping
11:08 < MillerBOSS> Yeah
11:09 < MillerBOSS> Did you see this? https://www.amazon.com/Endoscope-Depstech-Inspection-Megapixels-Smartphone/dp/B01MYTI2HV Got one of these for work
11:09 < Hunterkll> loll
11:10 < MillerBOSS> Uses Wi-Fi direct
11:10 < Hunterkll> i need one for my film camera
11:10 < Hunterkll> lol
11:14 < agris> This may be a stupid question but what does the SOA record really do?
11:14 < agris> I've always just set it to soa@$domain.com
11:14 < MillerBOSS> There are no stupid questions
11:15 < Hunterkll> agris, it's supposed to be the nameserver that provided the zone file
11:15 < Hunterkll> it's the 'start of authority'
11:16 < Hunterkll> it's in the form of like
11:16 < Hunterkll> computer email numbers
11:16 < Hunterkll> agris, http://www.peerwisdom.org/2013/05/15/dns-understanding-the-soa-record/
11:16 < ihre> in dutch, SOA translates to sexually transmitted disease :')
11:17 < Hunterkll> that too
11:17 < Hunterkll> I like how he has a PCIe graphics card
11:17 < Hunterkll> for what's a Pentium II or early Pentium III system
11:17 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/piK14Iz.png
11:18 < ihre> ISA to pci-e 16x
11:18 < Hunterkll> ihre, you really, really don't want to know what i'm capable of
11:18 < ihre> lol
11:19 < agris> is it stupid to set an NS record to a subdomain of the domain name instead of an IP address?
11:19 < agris> i currently have a dual Pentium II system i am restoring
11:19 < agris> with a raid of 10K SCSI disks
11:19 < agris> uwu
11:20 < ihre> no, a subdomain with its own NS records is fine
11:20 < ihre> gives you a clear separation between two zones, if you wish to manage them seperately
11:21 < Hunterkll> ihre, no no
11:21 < Hunterkll> ihre, he's setting the NS for one domain to a subdomain of another
11:21 < Hunterkll> :P
11:21 < Hunterkll> which i guess is fine
11:21 < Hunterkll> ihre, just saying that .... things exist... http://www.ite.com.tw/uploads/product_download/IT8888G_V0.9_05162005.pdf
11:22 < ihre> thats the other way tho, pci to isa
11:22 < ihre> :D
11:22 < ihre> still ... idk what to say
11:22 < ihre> fucked? :P
11:22 < Hunterkll> right
11:22 < agris> DNS really is a neat little protocol
11:22 < Hunterkll> PCIe -> PCI -> ISA
11:22 < agris> thank you for the link Hunterkll
11:22 < Hunterkll> :)
11:24 < ihre> i want this, https://i.imgur.com/mMrKF1C.png :p
11:25 < Hunterkll> I have a tape player that outputs audio over USB
11:25 < agris> is there still something productive i can do with a dual Pentium 2 server?
11:25 < ihre> well, remember that office space scene?
11:25 < Hunterkll> agris, I used to run 10 half-life mod servers off of one for lan parties
11:25 < Hunterkll> back in like 2005
11:26 < ihre> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wsjroVlu8&t=22s
11:26 < agris> really? hl is that efficient?
11:26 < Hunterkll> ... this was 2005 dude
11:26 < Hunterkll> or maybe 2004
11:26 < ihre> it was released in 1999
11:26 < Hunterkll> Steam was barelly new and only had HL games
11:27 < agris> where have we gone wrong
11:27 < ihre> i've lost my HL generation fat box :<
11:29 < agris> well besides old games and not having a backdoored CPU
11:30 < ihre> when valve started to offer a sales platform
11:33 < Hunterkll> agris, we haven't gone wrong at all from where i'm sitting
11:34 < Hunterkll> 2TB 960 Pro, i9-7980XE, 2x GTX 1080 Ti ;)
11:34 < agris> here i am with 4 3+Ghz cpus with my mail client lagging yet in the 90s it never lagged
11:34 < Hunterkll> maybe you shoulld use outlook instead
11:34 < agris> with what, 1 500Mhz CPU
11:34 < Hunterkll> pffff
11:34 < Hunterkll> pleaaaase
11:34 < Hunterkll> my shit in 2001 could lag like a motherfucker when i hit swap
11:34 < Hunterkll> don't even get me with that windows 98 bullshit
11:35 < Hunterkll> i'll shove this slackware so far up your ass...
11:35 < Hunterkll> lol
11:35 < agris> OutLook is not available for my platforms, besides outlook does not handle mail correctly and modifies imap messages
11:35 < Hunterkll> not entirely true
11:35 < Hunterkll> i've used it as a ghetto bridge to move mail between two imap boxes entirely unmodified
11:35 < Hunterkll> llol
11:35 < agris> modern outlook?
11:36 < Hunterkll> 2013/2016
11:36 < agris> oh
11:36 < Hunterkll> i skipped 2007 and 2010 for the most part
11:36 < MillerBOSS> You can do that with Thunderbird too
11:36 < Hunterkll> used the hellll out of 2003
11:36 < Hunterkll> MillerBOSS, thunderbird choked on those boxes
11:36 < Hunterkll> so i had to run outlook in WINE
11:36 < agris> well the current version of outlook modifies messages and emails to link to outlook.com resources
11:36 < MillerBOSS> Oh
11:36 < Hunterkll> agris, 2003 was what i used to do the mailbox migration
11:36 < Hunterkll> agris, no, no it doesn't.
11:36 < Hunterkll> that's entirely false
11:36 < Hunterkll> loll
11:37 < agris> Well i don't know what to tell you i've seen it with my own eyes
11:37 < Hunterkll> unless you're using it with an outlook.com account and don't turn off the account side features for saving attachments outside and linking to them instead
11:37 < Hunterkll> or using O365 with sharepoint enabled
11:37 < Hunterkll> there's optional features with those services, yes
11:37 < Hunterkll> but LOL no it doesn't do that
11:37 < agris> yeah that's at my job forces o365 on us
11:37 < Hunterkll> that's O365 doing it
11:37 < Hunterkll> not outlllook
11:37 < agris> but currently i'm stuck on thunderbird and it's lagging like shit
11:37 < Hunterkll> can't wait for this new keyboard
11:37 < Hunterkll> yea
11:38 < Hunterkll> thunderbiud always chokes on my shit
11:38 < Hunterkll> but i have lilke 10GB+ mailboxes
11:38 < Hunterkll> so
11:38 < Hunterkll> outlook flies with 'em
11:38 < agris> I'm trying to move to Claws-mail but it's lacking in some important features i need
11:38 < agris> mostly CalDav and CardDac support
11:39 < Hunterkll> i use $desktop_environment's native client usuallly, but if i run into issues or have to do heavy work, outlook in WINE it is...
11:39 < Hunterkll> my poor 700mhz pentium III/M
11:39 < agris> My desktop environment does not come with a mail client
11:39 < Hunterkll> running gentoo, compiling software, running outlook 2003 in WINE
11:39 < Hunterkll> llol
11:39 < agris> what email client do you use?
11:39 < agris> that solves the thunderbird lagging problem
11:39 < Hunterkll> outlook 99% of the time
11:40 < Hunterkll> seriously. I ran outlook in WINE
11:40 < agris> something that actually works on POSIX
11:40 < ihre> Mutt?
11:40 < Hunterkll> command line clients are all i use otherwise
11:40 < agris> hmm. is there a way to make mutt support caldav and cardav?
11:40 < Hunterkll> you could just use some standallone PIM program
11:41 < agris> i have not found a good native pim program yet
11:41 < agris> i've searched for months
11:41 < agris> that's the only reason i went with thunderbird at the time
11:41 < Hunterkll> i just use webmail when i'm on alien platforms tho
11:41 < Hunterkll> lol
11:41 < ihre> http://lostpackets.de/khal/
11:41 < ihre> https://github.com/scheibler/khard
11:41 < ihre> doesnt look very user-friendly :p
11:42 < agris> oh neato ihre, can it read my imap and import calender invites?
11:42 < ihre> and you'd have to script around it to make it work w/ mutt
11:42 < Hunterkll> agris, i mean, personallly, on my linux workstation i use Kontact, KMail, KAddressBook, and KOrganizer depending on needs
11:42 < Hunterkll> and they fly
11:42 < Hunterkll> on a single core 1.33ghz powerpc G4 laptop with 2GB ram
11:42 < Hunterkll> :)
11:42 < agris> i tried that. it kept corrupting my mail or needing database rebuilds
11:43 < agris> plus i hate having to install the dependencies of KDE programs
11:43 < Hunterkll> yea this is why i use windows on my work machine with linux on remote systems even though i'm a linux admin
11:43 < Hunterkll> lol
11:43 < agris> and a lot of my X stuff stops working with kde stuff because of all the extensions
11:43 < Hunterkll> it's /totally/ the year of the linux desktop
11:43 < Hunterkll> totallly
11:43 < ihre> :3
11:43 < Hunterkll> it was the year of the linux desktop in 2001
11:43 < Hunterkll> if SuSE only had better marketing
11:43 < Hunterkll> easier to install and use than ubuntu with more complete software repos
11:44 < Hunterkll> oh lawdy
11:44 < agris> Debian was fine until they started the whole systemd mess
11:44 < Hunterkll> debian was okay
11:44 < Hunterkll> it was eh
11:44 < agris> I can't stand Ubuntu systems
11:44 < Hunterkll> SuSE is the top of my list for binary distros
11:44 < agris> install this ppa
11:44 < agris> install this ppa
11:44 < agris> run this command that only works on ubuntu
11:44 < Hunterkll> why back in my day getting mp3 support was illlegal and required out of band repos
11:44 < Hunterkll> :P
11:44 < agris> execute this binary after curling it from the internet
11:45 < agris> ubuntu forums
11:45 < agris> that shitshow
11:45 < Hunterkll> honestly, WSL on windows has actually removed the need for me to even have linux VMs anymore
11:45 < agris> I went distro hopping for years and settled in Gentoo and Devuan depending on the machine's purpose
11:45 < Hunterkll> heh
11:46 < agris> Hunterkll, i refuse to use Microsoft and Google products
11:46 < Hunterkll> I was pretty much linux only from 2004 to 2011 and mostlyl used SuSE and gentoo myself, with some slackware involved
11:46 < agris> not that i would even want to.
11:46 < Hunterkll> then microsoft got their head out of their ass and fixed windows architecturally wise with windows 8
11:46 < Hunterkll> Vista and 7 were under the hood nightmares
11:46 < Hunterkll> well, that's on you
11:46 < Hunterkll> i like to get shit done
11:46 < agris> Microsoft fucked everything up after Windows 2000
11:46 < Hunterkll> nah
11:47 < Hunterkll> XP was okay, a polished 2k SP4
11:47 < agris> and Hunterkll don't assume i can't 'get shit done' on a Linux platform
11:47 < Hunterkll> Vista was necessary to establish UAC and proper isolation systems
11:47 < Hunterkll> 7 was a polish of vista
11:47 < Hunterkll> 8 was a revamp of the security subsystems and performance enhancements
11:47 < agris> or BSD
11:47 < ihre> cyka blyat
11:47 < Hunterkll> oh i'm sure you can get shit done
11:47 < Hunterkll> agris, but here you are trying to beat up mail clients and kludge things together :)
11:48 < Hunterkll> and showing that you're misinformed about how some software works (saying outlook mangles URLs while it's really your organization, for example)
11:48 < agris> Hunterkll, i'm asking around for software preferences. THis is the same with any platform
11:48 < Hunterkll> I told you my preference. Outlook in WINE :)
11:48 < Hunterkll> or KMaill
11:48 < Hunterkll> or commandline clients otherwise
11:49 < Hunterkll> for calendaring i use fat clients or webmail
11:49 < agris> asking about mail client preferences doesn't mean my platform is not capable of 'getting shit done'
11:49 < Hunterkll> a good webmail system'll handle sucking the ICS files out
11:49 < agent_white> I need to settle into alpine or mutt. The less clicking, the better.
11:49 < Hunterkll> i prefer mutt of the two, but i've been using it for like 15 years so
11:49 < Hunterkll> bias is bias
11:49 < MillerBOSS> Hunterkll 👉 https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-27-04-48-47-Q.png Has Vegas changed since then?
11:49 < agent_white> Mmm I'll give it a shot then :)
11:49 < Hunterkll> yes
11:50 < Hunterkll> yes it has MillerBOSS
11:50 < MillerBOSS> Thats from https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058725/
11:50 < Hunterkll> agris, i just get snippy when i hear platform zealotry because i've given up on that and just use whatever tool works with the least amount of frustration. =]
11:50 < Hunterkll> so sorry about that
11:51 < ihre> its like nano vs vim vs emacs
11:51  * Hunterkll is responsible for a brand new solaris deployment last week :>
11:51 < ihre> a pointless discussion :p
11:51 < Hunterkll> that was fun
11:51 < agris> well it comes across as the opposite
11:51 < Hunterkll> the pics of brand new sparc hardware made me horny
11:52 < Hunterkll> agris, it's just for that type of use case, outlook wins, hands down, there's just no competition. I've tried to find competition for 17 years now and keep going back to it and keep using WINE with all its quirks instead of a native application. that's how jacked the email/calendaring clients out there are for usability for my use cases
11:52 < Hunterkll> I even use windows Outlook under WINE on OS X even though there's a native version ... until recently they were two separate code bases (and the OS X one was worse) though they're rectifying that now
11:53 < agris> Wine works on OSX? huh
11:53 < Hunterkll> absolutely
11:53 < Hunterkll> there's even commercial variants with support and stuff
11:53 < agris> that's cool
11:53 < Hunterkll> https://www.codeweavers.com/products
11:53 < Hunterkll> obviously you can build it yourself and all that
11:54 < Hunterkll> lol chrome OS wine
11:54 < Hunterkll> that's sillyl
11:54 < Hunterkll>  Requires an Intel processor and Android 5.x or later.
11:55 < Hunterkll> agris, and this company makes a commercial spin that's gaming centric of WINE: http://www.cedega.com/
11:55 < Hunterkll> obviously, all core WINE modifications are contributed upstream
11:55 < ihre> iirc there was another one, with a wizard for 'all supported' games
11:55 < ihre> PlayonLinux?
11:56 < Hunterkll> that's probably cedega
11:56 < ihre> i just boot a win vm and pass the gpu to the guest
11:57 < agris> that works well, but requires a second dedicated gpu for the vm
11:57 < ihre> https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10728269
11:57 < ihre> all 'new' CPUs have an iGPU
11:57 < ihre> i just use the igpu for the host
11:57 < agris> i do have libvirt setup for that when i get around to getting another gpu
11:58 < agris> ihre, i have my igpu turned off to reclaim the memory.
11:58 < agris> and my bios has some bugs at the moment
11:58 < ihre> i can spare 256mb for the host :p
11:59 < ihre> probably less, not sure what I've set it to
12:02 < Hunterkll> agris, how much memory do you have that you need to reclaim that tiny amount lol
12:03 < ihre> and my bios still has issues too, still unclear why the fuck this happens, https://i.imgur.com/JC9rHPA.png :p
12:04 < Hunterkll> your computer has firmware?
12:04 < Hunterkll> its got issues
12:04 < Hunterkll> there
12:04 < Hunterkll> i summarized it all
12:42 < lukexj> quick question for you guys, if i replace my mobo for a different one same chipset and hooked everything up correctly. how much would it fuck up? i have a windows disk and a linux disk
12:43 < lukexj> i tired googling my question but didnt find any good answers
12:45 < lukexj> i got a budget mobo when i first built it but now i no more space for expandability
12:57 < MillerBOSS> What OS for Windows lukexj?
13:02 < lukexj> w10
13:02 < Hunterkll> damn
13:02 < Hunterkll> had this thing since january and finallyl got around to jailbreaking it
13:02 < Hunterkll> loll
13:03 < MillerBOSS> As far as I know you won't have any issues with Windows but Linux I know nothing about but I think that would be fine too
13:05 < Hunterkll> what for?
13:05 < MillerBOSS> Hunterkll 👉 05:42:56 AM  lukexj	quick question for you guys, if i replace my mobo for a different one same chipset and hooked everything up correctly. how much would it fuck up? i have a windows disk and a linux disk
13:05 < MillerBOSS> 05:43:24 AM  lukexj	i tired googling my question but didnt find any good answers
13:05 < MillerBOSS> 05:45:39 AM  lukexj	i got a budget mobo when i first built it but now i no more space for expandability
13:05 < Hunterkll> linux don't give a fuck
13:05 < lukexj> linux afaik is hotswappable
13:05 < Hunterkll> win10 shoulld be reasonable okay
13:05 < Hunterkll> it'll rebuild the hal automaticallly no problem
13:05 < Hunterkll> well, it depends on how you're configured
13:05 < Hunterkll> ;)
13:06 < Hunterkll> I mean, windows can be put on a flash drive and booted on anything too, so...
13:06 < Hunterkll> and that's officially supported
13:06 < Hunterkll> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_To_Go
14:07 < L3gacy> Good morning, peeps
14:07 < MillerBOSS> Hola
14:08 < L3gacy> So, I had it out with former coworker
14:08 < L3gacy> He told me I had better come back to work, as HE has plans for vacation, and when I asked why he didnt tell $BOSS, he said he didnt have to consult him, and he doesnt care
14:08 < L3gacy> I sent the texts to $former_BOSS
14:09 < L3gacy> $Former_BOSS called me.  He's LIVID at $COWORKER :)
14:09  * L3gacy noms popcorn
14:09 < L3gacy> I love starting a shit storm when threatened with drama
14:09 < MillerBOSS> lol
14:09 < L3gacy> MillerBOSS, what are you up to, today?
14:09 < MillerBOSS> Thats good
14:10 < L3gacy> Rum_fiend, are you Jack Sparrow?
14:10 < rum_fiend> L3gacy: is this the FBI?
14:10 < MillerBOSS> Cleaning up my unRAID machine that I have not touched in over a year and watching some new videos regarding features and all
14:10 < L3gacy> Fat Bald Ingrate?
14:10 < L3gacy> in that case, yes
14:11 < rum_fiend> but yes, I also go by jacksparrow
14:11 < L3gacy> Rum is the solution to all problems
14:11 < L3gacy> but I have custom distilled black cherry and pomegranate tequila
14:13 < rum_fiend> you should try slivovitza if you want to destroy your liver for a day, also hello fellow server wranglers
14:14 < rhqq> morning
14:14 < rhqq> erm
14:14 < rhqq> afternoon
14:14 < L3gacy> rhqq! :)
14:14 < MillerBOSS> 9	Power on hours 	76953 (8y, 9m, 11d, 9h)
14:15  * L3gacy slides rhqq some tequila
14:15 < rhqq> L3gacy: hi!
14:15 < MillerBOSS> 5	Reallocated sector count	0x0033	100	100	036	Pre-fail Always Never 13
14:15 < MillerBOSS> Not bad
14:15 < rhqq> heh
14:16 < MillerBOSS> Seagate Barracuda 7200.11
14:16 < L3gacy> My sugar is 380 again
14:16 < rhqq> lulz
14:16 < L3gacy> wtf?  I had a salad and fuck all else yesterday
14:16 < rhqq> mine never went  over 100
14:16 < L3gacy> I'm on metofrmin AND insulin
14:16 < MillerBOSS> Can sectors "spread"?
14:16 < L3gacy> I had a DRY ASS SALAD
14:16 < MillerBOSS> I mean bad sectors
14:16 < rhqq> MillerBOSS: depends
14:16 < L3gacy> corrosion on platter?
14:17 < rhqq> or if there was a physical damage not caused by external mechanical ingerention
14:17 < rhqq> this might mean there are certain vibrations
14:17 < MillerBOSS> I have a lot of old drives in this https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-27-07-16-59-i.png
14:18 < rum_fiend> oh, is that a JBOD array
14:18 < L3gacy> ReiserFS?!  Next you'll tell me you fix shit with a hammer!
14:18 < MillerBOSS> unRAID https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-05-27-07-18-18-g.png
14:18 < L3gacy>  #TooSoon
14:18 < MillerBOSS> Yeah its been running for over 9 years
14:18 < rhqq> whats wrong with reiser :D
14:18 < MillerBOSS> I need to change em all to xfs
14:19 < rhqq> MillerBOSS: wow, 9 years is a lot for drives
14:19 < MillerBOSS> Green WDs even that old
14:19 < MillerBOSS> The machine has held up
14:19 < MillerBOSS> But DDR2, SATA 2
14:19 < rhqq> yeach, but it's all about ummm
14:19 < rhqq> reliability
14:19 < MillerBOSS> For sure
14:19 < rhqq> at this point i'd replace everything if i ever cared about the data
14:19 < L3gacy> Hans Reiser murdered his wife
14:19 < rhqq> L3gacy: not really
14:20 < rhqq> they never found any evidence
14:20 < MillerBOSS> Actually I am clearing up the drives and moving anything I want to Google Drive
14:20 < MillerBOSS> Via rclone
14:20 < MillerBOSS> Then going to test every drive and reuse the machine
14:20 < rhqq> MillerBOSS: why not amazon s3 ?
14:20 < rhqq> cheapera
14:20 < rum_fiend> MillerBOSS: isnt that slow as heel?
14:20 < MillerBOSS> I have a G Suite account that give me unlimited space
14:20 < rhqq> MillerBOSS: how? :D
14:20 < rum_fiend> i have really bad experience with rclone & gdrive
14:20 < L3gacy> Fuck it.  Sugar never goes below 300 despite meds, and diet
14:20 < MillerBOSS> rum_fiend 👉 Do you mean Google Drive slow?
14:21 < L3gacy> I'm having waffles with butter pecan glaze, then
14:21 < MillerBOSS> rhqq 👉 how to which part?
14:21 < rhqq> unlimited space on gsuite
14:21 < rum_fiend> yea, the sync time takes ages if you have A LOT of inodes ...
14:21 < MillerBOSS> $10 for a user
14:21 < rhqq> (im still using their old thing that was free, before that conversion in 2013 for paid-only)
14:22 < MillerBOSS> Fine print says only 1TB with less than 5 users I think but they have yet to enforce that
14:22 < rhqq> but im frozen in features
14:22 < MillerBOSS> rum_fiend 👉 syncing what exactly?
14:22 < MillerBOSS> I host a Plex server on a VPS and mount Google Drive using PlexDrive
14:22 < rum_fiend> files from local PC to google drive
14:22 < MillerBOSS> PlexDrive cache's directory structure and all
14:23 < rum_fiend> i've tried it as a backup solution and it sucked
14:23 < MillerBOSS> I think you would have to play with the settings of Rclone then
14:23 < MillerBOSS> rhqq 👉 You mean Google Apps when you could get accounts for free and now are limited to the features and can only create 10 users. Yeah I have some of those accounts too.
14:24 < MillerBOSS> They $10 is totally worth it
14:24 < rhqq> i seen some with 250 free users
14:24 < rhqq> :P
14:24 < rhqq> like 2010s
14:24 < MillerBOSS> Just a tad shy of 30TBs
14:24 < MillerBOSS> Yeah you could do that back then I remember
14:24 < MillerBOSS> Many Google Voice accounts too
14:24 < rhqq> all my data i really have is 30gb...
14:24 < L3gacy> What is this PlexDrive thingy?
14:25 < MillerBOSS> https://github.com/dweidenfeld/plexdrive
14:25 < rhqq> and if i gathered only what i really care about i'd fit in 8gb
14:25 < MillerBOSS> I am a Digital Hoarder.
14:25 < rhqq> figured
14:25 < MillerBOSS> :)
14:25 < L3gacy> I have an unlimited drive acct
14:25 < L3gacy> YAY $UNI!
14:27 < rhqq> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8mfkpk/looking_for_unicorn_38_certifications_and_46/ LOL
14:27 < MillerBOSS> Am I doing it wrong or is there a way to just rm a whole folder instantly? Even if it has a shit load of files and directories and is say 1TB? I am using rm -rf /dir/*
14:28 < rhqq> rsync is known to be faster
14:28 < rhqq> im not kidding
14:28 < rhqq> just rsync -del /emptydir
14:28 < rhqq> over the target
14:28 < rum_fiend> ^ +1
14:28 < MillerBOSS> Oh really
14:28 < rhqq> i remember that from r/sysadmin 2 years ago
14:28 < rhqq> someon was using that over petabyte-scale storage
14:28 < MillerBOSS> Technically I am doing rm -rf /dir/{*,.*}
14:29 < rum_fiend> talking bout petabytes: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/253817-intels-ruler-ssds-can-cram-1-petabyte-single-server-rack
14:30 < rum_fiend> pricey drives tho
15:58  * MillerBOSS looks around
16:04 <@JollyRgrs> MillerBOSS: don't look this way, i'm nekkid
16:04 < MillerBOSS> Yeah I usually don't look that way.
16:05 < Nightcinder> so what do you guys think about this SK/NK summit?
16:06 < MillerBOSS> We will see what happens
16:07 < Nightcinder> i wonder what the SK pres said to kim since the june 12 summit's back on the table
16:11 <@JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: he said "#rememberhiroshima"
16:11 < Nightcinder> lmao
16:11 < MillerBOSS> Good one
16:12 < sideup66> Sigh
16:12 < sideup66> I really need to figure out why my 6p crashes randomly
16:14 < Nightcinder> china
16:20 <@JollyRgrs> ^ or russia
16:23 < Nightcinder> JollyRgrs: i said china cause 6p is huawei
16:28 <@JollyRgrs> i understand that
16:28 <@JollyRgrs> but it could also be russia
16:32 < Silveress> there is also a solid chance the summit was never offically off and it was just posturing
16:32 < Silveress> and when both said it was off it made them both look bad and thus it was back on
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> lol
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> what?
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> noooo
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> neither of the two like to posture and care about how they are perceived
16:33 <@JollyRgrs> what are you talking about? /s
16:33  * Silveress turns out the lights to lurk in the shadows
16:33 < Silveress> ``rm -rf .light``
16:36 < Silveress> 0h danm, thought I was on discord for a moment
16:37 < Silveress> well either way there is a 10% chance Besetha is outsourcing teh dev work for Fallout0 to those two people
16:38 < Silveress> or maybe Fallout 4.1, the sources are neve clear on that
16:53 < DomLS3> degenerates, the lot of you
16:57 < MillerBOSS> Go home you are drunk DomLS3
16:58 < estranger> MORNING DRINKING!
16:59 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: I don't know what I'm doing here on a Sunday
16:59 < DomLS3> I need an adult
16:59 < MillerBOSS> Good luck with that
17:00 < MillerBOSS> CRYPTIC1 WAKE UP
17:01 < DomLS3> MillerBOSS: Yeah come in on a weekend it's poppin in here
17:01  * DomLS3 comes in on sunday
17:01 < DomLS3> Not shit going on
17:01 < MillerBOSS> In comes in waves
17:01 < MillerBOSS> Usually
17:02 < DomLS3> Don't you people have anything better to do on a weekend?
17:02 < DomLS3> MEMORIAL DAY weekend of all weekends
17:02 < MillerBOSS> I chose to have no friends
17:02 < DomLS3> no friends are the best friends
17:02 < DomLS3> can't stab you in the back
17:03 < DomLS3> *black guy thinking meme*
17:03 < MillerBOSS> Yeah
17:03 < MillerBOSS> lol
17:04  * Silveress is currently at work
17:05 < Silveress> joys of a startup
17:05 < MillerBOSS> What kind?
17:13 < L3gacy> Tacos?
17:15 < MillerBOSS> Where? I am hungry
17:16 < L3gacy> Here.  Salmon :)
17:17 < gavit> I have a weir problem, I can't select with my mouse on OSX anymore :S
17:17 < MillerBOSS> Reboot, try another mouse, try safe mode
17:23 < DomLS3> gavit: I have the solution for you
17:23 < DomLS3> I've seen this before
17:23 < Silveress> Medical tech startup
17:24 < gavit> MillerBOSS: reboot would probably solve it yeah, but I want to know what causes it instead of just rebooting everytime
17:24 < Silveress> decent idea behind it and works reasonbl well
17:26 < DomLS3> gavit: the solution is to unisntall OSX and install Windows
17:26 < DomLS3> That'll be $29.99
17:28 < MillerBOSS> Maybe check Console logs?
17:29 < MillerBOSS> Also a first aid on the drive may help and or https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204063 may help
17:51 < MillerBOSS> What have you done for notifications overload?
17:51 < MillerBOSS> Say you got work notifications, your personal shit and even side project notifications
18:04 < Silveress> Impostant shit notifes me, routiene stuff is logged and I review every so often
18:05 < Silveress> if every notification is "HIGH PROPRITY !!1!" then something is indeed wrong, and not the notifications
18:05 < MillerBOSS> How do you have it logged and for you to be able to review it?
18:05 < MillerBOSS> I really dislike email.
18:14 < Silveress> literally just appending to text files
18:15 < Silveress> there are probally better methods but it gets teh job done
18:16 < Silveress> it could be: [time in ISO format] [Device xyz] connected to [resource]
18:17 < MillerBOSS> Interesting
18:18 < Silveress> one that would notify me would be akin to: [time in ISO format] [Device xyz] tried to connect tp [invalid resource] from [ip/device info]
18:19 < Silveress> that would imply someone trying to skirt our controls
18:20 < Silveress> basically it wouldnt be worth it to be pinged for teh first one, but teh second is noteworthy and requires investication
18:21 < Silveress> again that is just me
19:13 < ekaj> I can kill vspherelocal/administrator sessions right?
19:17 < aName> I want to get a "half height" rack for under my desk - what's a good size for not stupid money?
19:18 < aName> That is, what's a fairly standard size where I can benefit from economies of scale, but it'll fit under the desk without being much smaller than it needs to be
19:19 < aName> (The desk is eight feet wide, fwiw)
19:25 < L3gacy> Facebook is retarded comedy gold, today
19:32 < aName> Oh?
19:36 <+NinjaStyle> Ay
19:36 <+NinjaStyle> o/
19:36 < aName> I only have facebook for coral
19:37 < aName> So that's all I see is coral auctions
19:37 <+NinjaStyle> Facebook is for moms
19:37 < aName> And coral auctions.
19:38 < aName> I'd build a site that auths against facebook that's actually meant for auctioning coral, but I don't want to support said site.
19:39 < aName> I mean, it's not that hard technically - user makes bid higher than current bid, record bid with username and timestamp, update high bid
19:40 < aName> I don't even have to handle payment
19:40 < aName> But there's SOOOOOOO much drama
19:40 <+NinjaStyle> What's coral?
19:40 < genr8_> like jewlery ?
19:40 < aName> NinjaStyle: Like, from a reef?
19:40 < aName> genr8_: No, live
19:40 < genr8_> what do you do, eat it ?
19:40 < aName> genr8_: No,  you display it and grow it
19:40 < aName> genr8_: And trade it with other hobbyists
19:40 < genr8_> mmk
19:41 < aName> genr8_: It's like pokemon, but for small reef animals
19:41 <+NinjaStyle> Seems damaging to the natural ecosystem
19:41 < aName> NinjaStyle: Naw, it's all aquacultured
19:41 < aName> NinjaStyle: I grow it in my livingroom
19:42 <+NinjaStyle> Why does Facebook need to be involved?
19:42 < aName> NinjaStyle: Because that's how you get a thousand people to see your niche hobby auction
19:42 < aName> Like share and subscribe!
19:42  * aName vomits
19:42 <+NinjaStyle> Hm
19:42 <+NinjaStyle> Why not eBay?
19:42 < aName> high fees
19:43 < aName> plus they have a tendency to take down live animal auctions
19:44 < aName> There's some sale going on there, but it's mostly low-end pieces that everyone already has.
19:44 < aName> Like... they're selling Pidgey and I'm after Charizard,  ya dig?
19:44 <+NinjaStyle> Oh
19:45 < aName> Once you get it into a bit, it's mostly trades - which means a lot of networking to find what you want.
19:46 < aName> Like, sure - I can get Acropora tenuis anywhere, but can I get a quadricolor fluorescent one? That takes some digging.
19:47 < aName> Anyway - where can I get a good deal on a smaller rack enclosure? Seems to be some inexpensive ones on amazon.
19:47 < aName> Errr, the rack itself - not an ATX case
19:48 < Casteil> ahhhh
19:48 < Casteil> so happy I moved my office back downstairs
19:48 < L3gacy> Friend is bitching the dems need to stop this child seperation policy THEY created.  He's a hard core Trumper... time to prune the friends list.
19:48 <+NinjaStyle> aName: I bought mine on eBay
19:49 < Casteil> no AC today, it's 68f down here while it's 10 degrees warmer upstairs and 90f outside
19:49 < Casteil> L3gacy: yeah, trump supporters have a loose relationship with reality/truth :P
19:50 < L3gacy> Casteil: we need to taco
19:51 < aName> https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Consumer-Cabinet-Network-Enclosure/dp/B0716Z7GSC How terrible do you figure this is?
19:52 < Casteil> do you need 18U?
19:53 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/NavePoint-Network-Server-Cabinet-Locking/dp/B01A6JQFSU < I'd considered buying their 6U at one point
19:53 < Casteil> but then realised it probably wouldn't be deep enough to house my R210-II
19:54 < Casteil> so I just built a sort of ghetto suspended shelf in my basement: https://i.imgur.com/aRaItWd.png
19:54 < MillerBOSS> They are good. I got a bunch of these installed https://www.amazon.com/Navepoint-Wallmount-Cabinet-Enclosure-16-Inches/dp/B00JZVUBFE/
19:55 <+NinjaStyle> aName: look at sysmarket24 on ebay
19:55 < L3gacy> So.. someone hacked my namecheap acct
19:56 < aName> Casteil: I don't need 18, but I do need more than 6
19:56 < L3gacy> My password isnt even in Romajii...
19:56 < aName> I've already got 9U planned
19:56 <+NinjaStyle> aName: this dude sells 12u with enclosure
19:57 < aName> 2U for my r710, 3U for the disk array, 4U for my gaming rig, 1U for a switch - so I'm at 10U right there
19:57 < L3gacy> :O
19:57 < Casteil> aName: your R710 sure as fuck isn't going to fit into one of these lol
19:57 < aName> Casteil: No? OK. That's why I ask these questions lol
19:57 < MillerBOSS> Oh, those nave points are not deep enough for servers.
19:57 < L3gacy> Anyone use airrouters?
19:58 < Casteil> look at the depth
19:58 <+NinjaStyle> You need 35" length
19:58 < Casteil> 18" depth
19:58 < Casteil> R710 is like 36 inches deep or so
19:58 < Casteil> I wasn't even sure if my 16.5" R210-II would fit in one
19:58 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah it's hang out the back on 35" but the rack fits
19:58 < aName> Ah. Hard to see from the photo.
19:59 < Casteil> the 6U one I linked: 'Total Usable Space of 16" front to back.
19:59 < Casteil> '
19:59 < aName> So these are more for switches in a closet somewhere
19:59 < Casteil> yeah
19:59 < aName> Casteil: I got as far as '6U'
19:59 < aName> lol
20:00 < MillerBOSS> R710 = 27''
20:00 < MillerBOSS> Just measured one
20:00 < Casteil> ah that's not as deep as I thought
20:00 < MillerBOSS> Excluding cables and all
20:00 < aName> + cable clearance
20:00 < Casteil> heavy as frig though
20:00 <+NinjaStyle> Really?
20:00 < Casteil> I still have mine sitting in my basement
20:00 < Casteil> doing nothing
20:00 < aName> Casteil: The disk array is even heavier lol
20:00 < Casteil> R710s are like 60-70 pounds
20:00 <+NinjaStyle> I'm trying to get rid of my r710
20:01 < aName> Casteil: Shipping weight on mine was 54lbs with no disks
20:01 < Casteil> I need to buy I haven't started actually trying haha
20:01 <+NinjaStyle> And probably my rack cabinet as well
20:01 < aName> NinjaStyle: Oh yeah? Where you at?
20:01 <+NinjaStyle> Denver
20:01 < aName> Bah
20:01 < Casteil> aName: I think the shipping weight on mine was like 67 pounds with its 5 disks
20:01 < Casteil> I bought 48GB of ram from some guy on reddit and chucked it in
20:02 < Casteil> ...before I got an R210-II with 32GB of ram and haven't used the R710 since
20:02 < aName> Nice, nice.
20:02 < aName> Mine came with 32GB
20:02 < aName> I'm sure that'll be fine for now
20:02 < Casteil> should be more than enough.
20:02 < Casteil> I have 3 VMs running on my R210
20:02 < aName> The r710 is under my bed, and my boss gave me the disk array this friday
20:02 < Casteil> 2 windows and a linux
20:02 < aName> And I'm just trying to figure out how to get it in there
20:03 < aName> And wishing I just had a rack
20:03 < Casteil> R710 is probably better to learn on but the R210-II is unquestionably better for 24/7 use
20:03 < Casteil> (it uses about 1/4th of the power)
20:03 <+NinjaStyle> I'm gonna buy a new microserver soon
20:03 <+NinjaStyle> And get rid of the 710
20:03 < aName> Casteil: Eh, the power use isn't such a big deal to me
20:04 < Casteil> I pay for my own power
20:04 < aName> I just accept that I have power hungry hobbies.
20:04 < aName> Casteil: So do I
20:04 < Casteil> so I try to minimize what I can
20:04 < aName> Casteil: Fair
20:04 < aName> Casteil: It's just kind of a moot point for me lol
20:04 < Casteil> my power costs like 18 cents per kWh all said and done now
20:04 < Casteil> (michigan has some shitty energy rates)
20:04 < aName> ew
20:05 < aName> I think mine is like... 12?
20:05 < Casteil> so 30W idle is better than ~130W idle
20:05 < aName> And my reef tank is like... 10A at full tilt
20:05 < aName> Granted, that's not 24/7
20:05 < Casteil> 30*24*365=262kWh/yr or ~$47/yr
20:05 < Casteil> 130*24*365= $205/yr
20:06 < aName> Yeah... I dunno, I think I spend maybe 300 bucks a year more on electric than if I didn't have a reef tank and server
20:06 < aName> It's worthwhile to me
20:06 < aName> It's basically my only electrical use though
20:07 < Casteil> I just moved my office back downstairs to help me save on AC because my downstairs bedroom is halfway below-grade and it stays a lot cooler
20:07 < aName> I've just got one big room
20:07 < aName> So all the heat is going the same place
20:07 < Casteil> I own/live alone in a 3 bedroom/2 bathroom house hehe
20:08 < Casteil> (split level so there are 4 levels, 2 of which are at least partially below ground
20:08 < aName> Yeah, but I bet my rent is much less than your mortgage/insurance/upkeep
20:08 < aName> ;-)
20:08 < Casteil> depends where you live
20:08 < aName> Heck, I bet it's less than insurance and upkeep
20:08 < aName> 360/m
20:08 < Casteil> yeah, that's not normal in most parts of the country :P
20:09 < Casteil> I used to rent a room from my buddy for $350/mo, now my mortgage+insurance+tax is about $1200/yr
20:09 < Casteil> (still not terrible)
20:11 < aName> Yeah, this is like, a standalone studio someone built in their backyard
20:11 < Casteil> at least it's standalone lol
20:11 < aName> Oh yeah
20:11 < Casteil> living with other people eventually drove me to buy my own house
20:11 < aName> I won't give it up until I buy
20:11 < aName> I'll never live in an apartment again, fuck that
20:12 < Casteil> word of advice, save as much as you can and buying a house is more expensive than you think even if you think you're thinking of everything
20:12 < aName> Oh yeah
20:12 < aName> Right now I'm just paying down my student loans
20:12 < aName> Two years left
20:12 < Casteil> ahhh
20:12 < aName> Then I'll be debt free and can really start piling it up
20:12 < Casteil> I'm fortunate in that I got my foot in the door without piling up huge student loans
20:13 < aName> So did I
20:13 < aName> But 8k still takes some time to pay down
20:13 < Casteil> my buddy makes a good deal more money than I do, but he's still paying down his like $70k in student loans he had by the end
20:13 < Casteil> (I think he's down to about $25k now)
20:13 < Casteil> speaking of.. the 'zestimate' for my house is now up to $195k :D
20:14 < Casteil> bought it last year for 186 and could probably sell right now for 200-210
20:16 < DLSteve> 200k might buy me a dirt lot in my area. Emphasis on the might part.
20:16 < aName> lol
20:16 < aName> I was looking at a 3 acre lot in the burbs for 50k last night
20:16 < Casteil> DLSteve: Yeah. We're sorta lucky around here with reasonable prices
20:17 < Casteil> this house is ~30 yrs old and on a half acre lot, closest neighbor is like 70ft away and they're on the side of my house I can't even see out of (garage)
20:17 < aName> I also saw a complete house (in rough shape, admittedly) for 45k
20:17 < Casteil> also just a quiet neighborhood
20:17 < aName> I really want to build myself, though
20:18 < Casteil> aName: maybe someday I'll do that.. but it's expensive and stressful
20:18 < aName> I find the standards most homes are built to... to be shit
20:18 < Casteil> I'd want to build with ICF walls
20:18 < aName> Casteil: Yeah, but I'd be happy with the results
20:18 < Casteil> maybe >.>
20:18 < aName> Casteil: ICF is a neat approach
20:19 < Casteil> I like that they're basically impermeable to... well, just about everything
20:19 < aName> You'd be apalled how many homes here don't even have insulation on the second floor.
20:19 < DLSteve> I just need to find a job back home in SE with a similar salary to what I have now, I'd be living like a king.
20:20 < aName> Casteil: I also want an enormous basement
20:20 < aName> Casteil: Like... 3x the size of the house lol
20:20 < Casteil> lol
20:20 < aName> And then I can have all the fish I always wanted to keep
20:20 < aName> but couldn't because space
20:20 < aName> And I'll get pet sharks
20:21 < aName> And train them to swim through a laser beam to dispense food
20:21 < Casteil> I've got a decent size basement
20:21 < Casteil> probably just about 500 square feet
20:21 < DLSteve> I honestly want a small house with a small yard. I lived in a 6bd 4ba 3400/sqft house and it sucked to clean/maintain.
20:21 < aName> That's smaller than I'd want
20:21 < aName> But I'd make it work
20:21 < aName> The shark tank alone is like 100 square feet though
20:22 < aName> DLSteve: Sure - I just want a fish room
20:22 < aName> DLSteve: And that means a big basement
20:22 < aName> That, or building the whole house like a skyscraper
20:23 < aName> Easier to just put the heavy thing on the concrete slab. =D
20:23 < Casteil> lol
20:24 < Casteil> forgot I'm literally like 4 steps from my basement door
20:25 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/QeTl86N.png < Still haven't really gotten around to getting it set up
20:25 < Casteil> I took some loose lain carpet out that was down there and I'm turning it into a shop area
20:25 < Casteil> that's just the main ~16x15ft area
20:26 < Casteil> if I had more monthly disposable income I'd be further along but there's a lot of draws on your wallet for like the first 6 months of owning a house :P
20:27 < DLSteve> I see a disturbing lack of server racks down there...
20:27 < Casteil> that's in one of the other two rooms DLSteve
20:27 < DLSteve> :P
20:27 < Casteil> and really it's not much of one lol
20:27 < Casteil> linked in here earlier, it's just a R210-II with a switch/UPS/NVR really.. https://i.imgur.com/aRaItWd.png
20:28 < DLSteve> Well, probably more than I have. My home lab consists of a 2011 Mac Mini right now.
20:28 < Casteil> and a mini ER-X router plus a little 16 port patch panel
20:29 < Casteil> anyway, going to go get my pool ready for an afternoon swim
20:29 < Casteil> while I'm enjoying this downstairs below-grade bedroom at 68f it's actually 90 degrees out
20:29 < DLSteve> Are you in the SE?
20:30 < Casteil> SE?
20:30 < DLSteve> South East.
20:30 < DLSteve> US
20:30 < Casteil> SW
20:30 < Casteil> Michigan
20:30 < Casteil> and yes that's hotter than normal for may
20:30 < DLSteve> Ah okay.
20:31 < DLSteve> It's 63 here in Seattle.
20:36 < precise> Casteil: SE > SW
20:36 < precise> UP > * tho
20:38 < L3gacy> got my namecheap account back! :)
20:40 < MillerBOSS> How did you lose it?
20:40 < MillerBOSS> Was 2 factor enabled?
20:46 < catbeard> https://i.imgur.com/1S7QW9g.mp4
20:48 < catbeard> your mother sucks bunyons in hell
20:49 < catbeard> i said that to an angry black lady, she was mad she couldn't park in front of my driveway to go up the street to a church
20:50 < catbeard> https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/216320
20:53 < Casteil> precise: SE means detroit, so I disagree with your statement
20:55  * precise smacks Casteil 
20:55 < Casteil> come at me bro
20:55 < precise> Casteil: #donger
20:56 < Casteil> damn.. bigass tree looming over the pool is dropping a ton of tiny little flower pedals on it
20:57 < precise> Casteil: get your ass in #donger
20:57 <+NinjaStyle> I'm Casteil I have a pool
20:57 < Casteil> at a rate far higher than what my skimmer can remove them :P
20:57 < Casteil> NinjaStyle: it's not *that* fancy :P
20:57 < precise> NinjaStyle: The west side of Michigan is realtively wealthy, stuckup, snobby.
20:57 < precise> FYI
20:57  * precise looks at Casteil 
20:57 < Casteil> buuut I knew it'd be nice to have on these 90 degree days
20:57 < Casteil> 'relatively wealthy'
20:58 < Casteil> sure I'm relatively wealthy compared to the poverty line
20:58 <+NinjaStyle> The UV index earlier said "extreme"
20:58 < Casteil> XTREME
20:58 < precise> Casteil: You are the product of white flight.
20:58 < Casteil> wut
20:58 < Casteil> also NinjaStyle https://i.imgur.com/uU9Ea5t.png :D
20:58 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: he is calling u racist
20:58 < precise> Not really
20:58 < precise> Maybe his parents, or their parents
20:58 <+NinjaStyle> That pool is dope
20:59 < Casteil> that was a few weeks ago before the leaves had come in more fully
21:00 <+NinjaStyle> My back yard is a patio
21:00 <+NinjaStyle> I did just buy a ping pong table though
21:00 < Casteil> you're also in the denver area so anything more than that is going to cost you a mil
21:00 < Casteil> >.>
21:01 < MillerBOSS> Everywhere in the country is mostly hot https://graphical.weather.gov/sectors/conus.php#tabs
21:01 < Casteil> "US weather: Hot as fuck"
21:02 < sideup66> Raining where I live
21:03 <+NinjaStyle> 81 here atm
21:03 <+NinjaStyle> Not bad tbh pretty comfy out
21:03 < Casteil> shouldn't be too horrible unless it's humid
21:04 < Casteil> it may be 92 here but humidity is only 38% so it's bearable
21:04 <+NinjaStyle> It doesn't get humid here
21:04 < MillerBOSS> Dew point is what would be the issue but its below 70
21:05 < MillerBOSS> https://digital.weather.gov/ unless you get South. Choose Dew Point from teh drop down
21:10 <+NinjaStyle> I need to write a program to find the perfect climate
21:10 <+NinjaStyle> It's probably just gonna say socal tho
21:10 < Casteil> gotta write in parameters to exclude hipsters and libs
21:10 < Casteil> >.>
21:11 <+NinjaStyle> Climate + col index
21:16 < matjam> socal is pretty hot, norcal is nice as long as you're not right on the coast
21:17 < aName> I'd go for Redwood City
21:17 < MillerBOSS> https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-access/quick-links#gsod for the data
21:17 < Casteil> SF would be a nice place if it weren't for the cost of living, earthquakes, libs, hipsters, wildfires, droughts....
21:18 < matjam> walnut creek and surrounds are nice.
21:18 < matjam> and we don't really worry about those issues
21:18 < aName> https://i.imgur.com/thrKGnh.png
21:18 < aName> Just sayin'
21:18 < matjam> the water reservoirs up here fare far better than the ones in socal
21:19 < aName> lol
21:19 < aName> It cracks me up when people are going on about saving water
21:19 < matjam> the problem with redwood city is that its ridiculously expensive like anything on the peninsula or near the south bay
21:19 < aName> I live between two of the largest freshwater lakes on the planet
21:19 < aName> Imma be fine
21:20 < aName> matjam: Because it's amazing, all the time
21:20 < matjam> hah
21:20 < MillerBOSS> https://ropensci.github.io/GSODR/
21:20 < aName> Like, you still get seasonal variation
21:20 < aName> But it's never too hot or too cold
21:20 < matjam> yeah I dunno, screw the traffic on 101
21:21 < MillerBOSS> http://kellegous.com/j/2014/02/03/pleasant-places/ uses that data
21:29 < matjam> gonna be so nice tomorrow
21:30 < matjam> got my bbq set up and tested it last night, gonna be awesome
21:32 < rpifan> jesus h christ when the fuck are these damn airshow planes gonna stop
21:32 < rpifan> trying to bust my fucken windows
21:32 < matjam> when they succeed
21:33 < rpifan> jesus
21:33 < rpifan> i dont understnd how ppl cant see how blantently manipulative this whole thing is, designed to shock and awe and brainwash people with security theatre, just like the soviets on may 1st
21:33 < rpifan> on top of that the damange to the environment
21:33 < rpifan> noise pollution, air pollution
21:33 < rpifan> and jesus christ the cost
21:34 < rpifan> they can fund these things but they cant pave roads or build birdges
21:34 < rpifan> bridges
21:34 < matjam> it's only 200,000 a minute to fly one of those things
21:34 < matjam> spare change
21:34 < matjam> I have no idea how much they cost but I'm sure its not cheap with them just sitting on the ground lol
21:34 < rpifan> this has bene going on for hours and several days now
21:34 < rpifan> its probably millions
21:35 < rpifan> and then they say the ilegals are stealing shit
21:35 < MillerBOSS> Those animals.
21:35 < matjam> don't get me started
21:36 < precise> S E C U R I T Y  T H E A T E R
21:37 < rpifan> this all started to cock fight with the soviets
21:37 < rpifan> now its over the US won
21:37 < rpifan> america is the insecure one now
21:37 < rpifan> having to constantly people, am i still cute
21:37 < rpifan> would you still date me
21:40 < matjam> gotta keep everyone in a constant state of fear so that the rich can make more and more money off the middle class and the poor by redistributing their income into the military industrial complex, while ensuring that citizens are uneducated and unhealthy enough that they are unable to put up any kind of coherent resistance.
21:40 < rpifan> hear hear
21:41 < L3gacy> Remember. I have 1000 donuts, your friend has 1.  We need to convince him the poor want to steal his donut, and he needs to give it to you for safe keeping.
21:42 < rpifan> its ironic too cause as i walking down the street i saw the local museum is having an exhibition of soviet era propaganda posters lol
21:45 < rpifan> btw everyone in this channel is now on the sedition list, for not supporting wasteful americanness
21:45 < matjam> there was a study done, I'm trying to find it, but it showed that if you separate people into groups, and then offer them a choice A and B where if they choose A, they get $20 as well as everyone in the other group gets $20, or if they choose B, they get $10 where everyone in the other group gets nothing. Guess what most people chose?
21:45 < matjam> fucking monkey brains.
21:45 < matjam> rpifan: I've been on that list since I entered the country. Hi NSA!
21:46 < rpifan> i think ppl can be fair
21:46 < rpifan> but its not always the case
21:46 < rpifan> most people just wanna be heard
21:46  * matjam gets a text from number 0 that says "hi."
21:46 < rpifan> like me complaining on irc
21:46 < rpifan> im so feed up with this city
21:48 < MillerBOSS> https://books.google.com/books?id=lipkSRKBLSEC&pg=PA246&lpg=PA246#v=onepage&q&f=false ?
21:51 < MillerBOSS> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimatum_game
21:51 < rpifan> i know
21:51 < rpifan> ive read studies
21:51 < rpifan> but there is also a sense of fairness
21:52 < rpifan> people get enranged when they feel things arent fair
21:52 < MillerBOSS> Nothing is fair
21:52 < rpifan> but u cn make it fairer
21:52 < MillerBOSS> This is life.
21:52 < matjam> http://www.culturalcognition.net/ has lots of good reads
21:52  * matjam shoves his head back in the ground
21:52 < rpifan> lol
21:52 < rpifan> but we can make it better
21:53 < rpifan> thats the point
21:53 < matjam> we have been, if you look at a long enough timescale you can see things are improving
21:53 < matjam> its just, you know, we take a few steps back sometimes
21:53 < rpifan> oh yea
21:53 < rpifan> i think i can agree with u matjam
21:53 < rpifan> there have been miniature improvements
21:53 < rpifan> but its hard to say if we will survive long enough to really notice it
21:54 < matjam> the real danger is that the <0.1% want to go back to an aristocratic system where the wealthy can just do wtf they want
21:54 < matjam> I mean, they already can, just, you know, they want to be able to shoot people on 5th avenue.
21:55 < MillerBOSS> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma
21:55 < rpifan> well trump said so and he is right
21:55 < rpifan> evne if he did shoot someone on 5th ave hed be ok
21:55 < matjam> yeah don't forget, we'd also apparently prefer to electrocute ourselves rather than be bored
21:55 < matjam> lol
21:56 < MillerBOSS> Gimmie a break
21:56 < m4221> Has anyone here bought a condo?
21:57 < rpifan> well ppl
21:57 < rpifan> do electrocute there cocks for pleasure
21:57 < rpifan> havent done it
21:57 < rpifan> but ive seen it
22:00 < catbeard> they've glass boxed the glade refill gels at the grocery store
22:01 < rpifan> someone eating them?
22:01 <@cryptic1> Whats up
22:02 < rpifan> just complaing about the damned air show
22:09 < aName> rpifan: You should get a paramotor and join them
22:10 < MillerBOSS> http://thesoundingline.com/map-of-the-day-every-ruler-in-europe-since-400-bc/
22:10 < rpifan> paramotor?
22:11 < agris> what do insurance companies look for in their UNIX sysadmins?
22:11 < rpifan> security
22:11 < rpifan> id expect
22:11 < aName> rpifan: You know paragliding, yes?
22:11 < MillerBOSS> We got made in the shade vs the times before us.
22:12 < rpifan> heave of it
22:12 < aName> rpifan: OK, strap a big fan to your back, and there you are.
22:12 < agris> those a requirements for any sysadmin job
22:12 < rpifan> aName, why u no cname
22:12 < aName> rpifan: Would you rather I was a TXT record?
22:12 < agris> what would set you apart from all the other sysadmins for an insurance company?
22:13 < rpifan> txt is goo
22:13 < aName> rpifan: Anyhow, my nick used to be MuchLongerUsername, but people complained
22:21 < Jekotia> agris: Waiving your coverage.
22:44 < m4221> rpifan:
22:46 < rhqq> stupid nodrvpn android app
22:48 < precise> Fuck NordVPN, and their shitty scare tactic VPN commercials
22:48 < precise> "DID YOU KNOW ANYONE CAN SEE ANYTHING YOU DO ONLINE"
22:50 < Anaphylaxis> haven't seen them, but I got a (hacked?) NordVPN account and it was pretty good
22:50 < Anaphylaxis> heard it's better than all the competition.
22:51 < precise> I prefer Mullvad
22:54 < rhqq> well, all i need is something thats p2p friendly
22:54 < rhqq> everyone sane understands that using 3rd party vpn is actually revealing your privacy to them
22:55 < rhqq> i wanted to try out their app and it keeps crashing and it doesnt store my settings
22:55 < rhqq> so yeah, not good
23:00 < precise> But, do you want to reveal your private information to a company that is willing to run scaretactic ads?
23:00 < precise> It speaks to their ethics and morals.
23:00 < rhqq> well, paid with crypto, using one of my spearable email addresses
23:00 < rhqq> what can possibly go wrong here?
23:00 < rhqq> im going to use that just for p2p
23:00 < precise> rhqq: Nothing inherently
23:00 < precise> I just don't like giving companies money that do those sorts of things
23:01 < m4221> Has anyone gone through buying a condo?
23:01 < rhqq> well, thing is they seem to have one of best feature sets
23:01 < rhqq> and $3/mo is nothing really for what they offer and im fine with that
23:03 < rhqq> it's just a matter of expectations towards the service, and to be fair, i never seen their ads, just because of all these adblockers: P
23:10 <+NinjaStyle> m4221: yes
23:10 < m4221> NinjaStyle: tell me about your experience
23:12 < m4221> NinjaStyle: in a pm
23:13 <+NinjaStyle> What do you want to know specifically?
23:13 <+NinjaStyle> It's the same process as buying a house pretty much
23:13 <+NinjaStyle> Just add the HoA on top
23:18 < aName> OK... so the firmware on this RAID controller can't see my disks - the new version can - does anyone know of a standalone firmware updater for a Perc 6i?
23:18 < aName> Or do I create a bootable USB linux thing and do it from there?
23:37 < Casteil> god damn glad I moved my office
23:37 < Casteil> 84f and climbing upstairs
23:37 < Casteil> still 69f down here
23:38 < Casteil> afternoon sun just blasts that room and cooks it
23:40 < rhqq> 69 feels a bit too low to me
23:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> man I really like Hyper-V
23:41 < rhqq> i keep my temp around 23°C thats like 73
23:44 < aName> I keep my home at 72 in the summer and 76 in the winter
23:51 < agris> Has anyone found any good personal finance applications for POSIX compliant operating systems that are backed by a MySQL/MariaDB database?
23:51 < rhqq> "finance application" is quite a BROAD term
23:51 < agris> I've been using GNU Cash but it seems to use deprecated libraries now which makes it increasingly difficult to compile on my system
23:52 < agris> s
23:52 < rhqq> i used that on android really
23:52 < agris> rhqq, something to track where money is going and how much.
23:52 < rhqq> so personal finance
23:53 < agris> GNU Cash worked great for my use case, only thing i could have asked for is better multisession support
23:53 < rhqq> as i said, i used to use gnu cash, but on android
23:53 < agris> yeah personal
23:53 < rhqq> now i've shredded all my cards except one, migrated to revolut and it tracks all my spendings for me
23:56 < agris> eh, thanks for your suggestion but mobile operating system support really isn't something i use (Android/IOS)
23:56 < agris> i appreciate it though
23:56 < rhqq> yeah, i get it
23:56 < rhqq> i was really too lazy to get my finances organized
23:56 < rhqq> and i do organize that naturally "in my head" mostly
23:57 < rhqq> i've optimized spendings and shit already so... i dont really need fine-granularity of expense tracking
23:57 < agris> yeah but ounce you got so many accounts or bills or money starts getting tight a computer can really help out planning your next budget
23:58 < rhqq> this is why now i have my basic account, that all money come in, revolut account with a single card and that's it
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