--- Log opened Thu May 31 00:00:00 2018
--- Day changed Thu May 31 2018
00:00 < JFDkthx> k
00:00 < Hunterkll> this happens when TPM is enabled trying to boot the windows installer -> https://i.imgur.com/FbFu5k9.png
00:01 < Jekotia> Hunterkll: Did enabling TPM have any other dependent settings you had to change?
00:01 < Hunterkll> nopoe
00:01 < Jekotia> Then it's (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ time
00:02 < Hunterkll> also, windows has always had background encryption?
00:02 < Hunterkll> since vista anyway
00:03 < Jekotia> I only recall that the last time I tried to enable encryption on an active system (before windows 10), it wouldn't allow me to use the system for the duration of the process
00:04 < Hunterkll> then that wasn't bitlocker
00:04 < Jekotia> IK
00:04 < Hunterkll> even when bitlocker was introduced, it'd block out most of the drive and leave like 5GB of scratch space for you to keep functioning
00:04 < Hunterkll> and that was back in ... 2006?
00:04 < Jekotia> I'm really liking selfhosted gitlab so far
00:07 < Jekotia> Feels really good when the different things you're experimenting with come together to make a solid system
00:08 < xe0n> feels really good when you eat different things you're experimenting with come together for a solid poo
00:09 < Jekotia> xe0n: What is this engrish?
00:11 < corn266> I have a question about masking malicious traffic with cdn traffic
00:12 < corn266> the book says the attacker has a sdn subdomain that points to the master C2 server, but how do you get a cdn subdomain?
00:12 < corn266> s/sdn/cdn
00:15 < coderphive> sdn?
00:15 < coderphive> oh
00:15 < coderphive> Well, like in AWS you can have use an S3 bucket to intercept CDN traffic
00:15 < coderphive> or you used to be able to
00:15 < corn266> currently reading this: https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/red-team-insights-https-domain-fronting-google-hosts-using-cobalt-strike/
00:15 < corn266> but it's using cobalt strike and that's fucking expensive
00:16 < coderphive> ohhh
00:16 < coderphive> So, do you know what domain fronting is?
00:17 < corn266> I have an inkling... using well known domains to cover your actual path ie. using cdn traffic to mask actual routes from the infected client / network
00:17 < coderphive> Nah, this isn't specific to attack vectors
00:17 < coderphive> It's actually just a CDN trick
00:17 < corn266> oh?
00:18 < coderphive> so CDN's serve multiple websites
00:18 < coderphive> say AWS's CDN is cdn.amazon.com
00:18 < coderphive> err
00:18 < coderphive> cdn.aws.com
00:18 < coderphive> That CDN serves amazon.com, netflix.com, and your site stupid.com
00:19 < corn266> hey that's registered
00:19 < coderphive> haha
00:20 < coderphive> Say some country doesn't like stupid.com
00:20 < corn266> yea you provide the cdn URL in your HTML <script> block or some shit so users don't have to download your unique package even though it's a copy of whoever your pulling from
00:20 < coderphive> so they block stupid.com
00:20 < coderphive> but you can't block the entire CDN's traffic right? Which the origin will always be the CDN
00:21 < coderphive> So then you can register another domain: stupid2.com and basically hide behind NetFlix and Amazon because that country won't block them
00:21 < coderphive> I explained that a bit backwards
00:21 < coderphive> Amazon.com and netflix.com are on cdn.aws.com
00:21 < coderphive> stupid.com is not
00:22 < coderphive> Iran blocks stupid.com
00:22 < coderphive> You register stupid2.com, register it on the CDN
00:22 < coderphive> now because the CDN serves your traffic they won't block you because they subsequently block Netflix and Amazon
00:22 < corn266> And you're just freely able to register with aws's cdn ?
00:22 < coderphive> Yeap
00:23 < javi404> coderphive: why is it blocked?
00:23 < coderphive> So stupid.com traverses the application layers and you eventually arrive at stupid.com
00:23 < coderphive> stupid2.com*
00:24 < coderphive> javi404 This typically happens with proxies
00:24 < coderphive> so like, Iran doesn't like Signal or WhatsApp
00:24 < corn266> what would your website even look like then? like an HTTP 301?
00:24 < coderphive> so they register themselves on the CDN with a false domain and eventually serve signals servers
00:24 < coderphive> corn266 nope, all you see from the browser is the CDN connection
00:25 < coderphive> Remember CDN's do the entire transaction for you
00:25 < coderphive> CDN's basically proxy your connection without taking you along with them and return the results
00:25 < CoJaBo> So, I managed to break my first LXD container. Documentation for the platform is still uselessly poor :/
00:27 < coderphive> containerd fam
00:27 < corn266> So how does the registration work coderphive ? Like with DNS you map a name to an IP, for CDN you map a name to a name?
00:28 < coderphive> Front Domain => CDN => Resolution Domain/Endpoint
00:28 < corn266> stupid2.com => cdn.aws.com => stupid.com ?
00:28 < coderphive> some CDN's are different, like CloudFlare
00:28 < coderphive> yeap!
00:29 < coderphive> Although, Domain Fronting is explicitly against AWS and Google TOS
00:29 < corn266> Wouldn't it be obvious that your traffic was going to stupid2.com instead of something like cdn.aws.com ?
00:29 < corn266> I'll keep that in mind going forward
00:29 < coderphive> It would
00:29 < coderphive> But if you block stupid2.com you just blocked Netflix and Amazon
00:30 < coderphive> because they're on the same global resource
00:30 < CoJaBo> was it a mistake to switch to LXD? It still feels like nobody else out there is using it.. :/
00:30 < corn266> global resource as in an external IP on a load balancer or something?
00:31 < coderphive> Well, CDN's vary in how they're setup, but generally it's a cluster of 4 IP's that are loadbalancing several regions
00:32 < coderphive> More or less you're setting the TLS endpoint up differently than the front domain
00:33 < corn266> So other than getting around country blocks, it's just for hiding tracks and not necessarily for hiding the attack vector
00:33 < coderphive> so stupid2.com's TLS cert it presents with is for stupid.com and that triggers sort of a race condition between Layer 8 and Layer 7
00:34 < coderphive> https://medium.com/@malcomvetter/simplifying-domain-fronting-8d23dcb694a0
00:34 < coderphive> That's a pretty good description
00:34 < coderphive> Probably better than I described it
00:35 < corn266> I'll give it a read, I just couldn't figure out how malicious actors could use it, but you've given a better idea so far
00:35 < coderphive> Oh
00:35 < coderphive> I actually forgot the most important part
00:35 < coderphive> Sorry
00:35 < coderphive> So since Amazon and Netflix are on that CDN the Host Header is actually valid for them
00:35 < corn266> ^^^^
00:36 < coderphive> Stupid2.com pointing to stupid.com can masquerade as amazon.com
00:36 < corn266> "By changing the HTTP Host header, the CDN will happily route us to the correct server."
00:36 < coderphive> yeap
00:36 < coderphive> CDN's basically take all their instructions via Headers
00:37 < coderphive> they're like, the source of truth if you will
00:37 < corn266> I was thinking CDNs were in reference to where websites got their style sheets and javascript functions ?
00:37 < coderphive> There are CDN's that host that
00:38 < catbeard> you have to get it there first
00:38 < catbeard> push or pull cdn
00:38 < coderphive> Domain Fronting CDN's are like AWS CloudFront
00:38 < coderphive> it's also possible on GCP GKE
00:38 < jaelae> My kids fed up with me - she’s 3
00:39 < coderphive> but yeah, the Signal and WhatsApp engineers have been fighting this war for forever because that's what they use
00:39 < coderphive> Which, it is somewhat unethical
00:39 < jaelae> She tells me stuff and sometimes I don’t understand her so I say - what did you say? And she rolls her eyes and replies I’ll tell you later
00:39 < coderphive> but so is suppressing free speech
00:40 < jaelae> That was not meant for this chat ignore me
00:40 < corn266> Get back at her when she's older and misname things she's into "oh are you playing the nintendo?"
00:40 < corn266> Idk about WhatsApp but I'd trust Signal off a cliff
00:41 < corn266> Even though their encryption algorithm hasn't been proven
00:44 < coderphive> Basic message, domain fronting is easier done than explained
00:44 < aName> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8n9fze/all_pcs_in_business_going_wireless/ All I could think was 'Oh you sweet summer child'
00:44 < coderphive> wireless is slower
00:44 < coderphive> wireless will cause dropouts
00:44 < coderphive> This is false
00:44 < coderphive> Surprised that got upvoted, or not
00:45 < agent_white> aName: Thought that was gonna be a different thread... there was another one where the admin was being forced into it by C-levels.
00:45 < coderphive> Theoretical speed of 5GHz is 433 Mbps - 1.7 Gbps
00:45 < corn266> agent_white I remember that
00:46 < agent_white> Most responses: 'find a new gig' :P
00:46 < aName> coderphive: Do you know what a network segment is?
00:46 < coderphive> Si
00:47 < aName> Correct me if I'm wrong, and I might be, but isn't wifi all one big segment per AP?
00:47 < coderphive> depends on the AP's you buy I think
00:48 < aName> At any rate, I don't trust wifi, especially for immobile machines.
00:48 < aName> ESPECIALLY when you've already got wiring lol
00:49 < coderphive> We use meshed AP's and they basically draw from one large pool
00:49 < coderphive> but you can assign hosts to vlans and they'll go where you tell them
00:49 < coderphive> just a different management strategy
00:49 < aName> I'm just thinking in terms of bandwidth and likelihood of collisions and retransmissions.
00:49 < coderphive> from a NE level it's all the same
00:50 < aName> But I'm really not that big on networks
00:50 < coderphive> uh, you could run into some limitations if you don't lay them out correctly but there's tools for that
00:50 < coderphive> Using meshed AP's alleviates a lot of pain
00:51 < aName> Well, yeah - you get more interfaces lol
00:51 < xe0n> meshed potatoes
00:51 < aName> OH! That reminds me - is there a decent tool that works on something inexpensive that will let me automatically map a large room?
00:51 < aName> No one can give me accurate floor plans and it's SUPER annoying
00:51 < coderphive> As for connections being lossy, wifi and TCP deal with lossy connections consistently
00:52 < coderphive> so I don't know why a "CTO" mentioned that
00:53 < bvierra> > they'll go where you tell them
00:53 < aName> coderphive: Yeah, but sometimes you get weird association issues with the AP, especially if you move from one to the other. Less of a problem with desktops. Less so with ... what is it, 802.11k?r?
00:53 < coderphive> tbh most 100 Mb connections are lossy due to duplex mismatches that occur because of broken autonegotiation
00:53 < bvierra> I hope so... I dont like it when my AP's just decide to get up and walk out
00:53 < aName> coderphive: Ugh. Ugh. That shit has caused me so much pain.
00:53 < FrostCyborg> @coderphive and the worst part is that neither end state they are having issues....
00:53 < coderphive> haha yeap
00:53 < aName> But not directly, no
00:54 < coderphive> idk, I can poke holes in that guys statement all day
00:54 < aName> See, it was broken on old gear the previous guy had
00:54 < aName> So it's baked into a lot of the desktop environment to have the thing at 100mbps
00:54 < coderphive> I'm going to go comment on that and get downvoted
00:54 < coderphive> watch me while I twerk
00:54 < aName> And we think we've got them all, but sometimes a machine crops up that didn't get the memo
00:54 < aName> And you forget
00:54 < aName> And you start troubleshooting
00:54 < aName> And it's just acting up
00:55 < aName> I'm sure you guys know this story already.
00:55 < aName> I haven't seen one of these machines in about six months
00:55 < aName> But I'm sure it'll find me
00:55 < precise> Where do you guys keep your private repo's for your scripts and devops life cycle? Preferably free :P
00:56 < aName> Yeah... I should do that.
00:56 < aName> And uh, just do a private git?
00:58 < precise> aName: Slefhosted?
00:58 < corn266> precise there's this folder on my desktop that's named "scripts"
00:59 < precise> corn266: I need revision control across multiple computers and VMs
00:59 < precise> :P
01:00 < corn266> https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/
01:00 < coderphive> Gitlab is free my mans
01:00 < coderphive> precise
01:00 < coderphive> So is bitbucket
01:01 < coderphive> but bitbucket is dumb
01:01 < coderphive> imo
01:01 < precise> Huh, github has private repo's listed as a paid feature. But gitlab doesn't mention that anywhere, I guess it is just assumed?
01:01 < coderphive> Man, I know some graybeard pony-tail sporting hippy sysadmin is about to reply to my comment like, "AKTUALLLY"
01:02 < coderphive> precise gitlab has free private repos
01:02 < coderphive> GitHub costs like $7 a month and comes with hosting
01:02 < corn266> I mean if you're running gitlab self hosted and have it attached to AD for authentication then it's technically private
01:02 < coderphive> ^
01:03 < coderphive> That too
01:03 < coderphive> Depends on your auth strategy
01:03 < precise> This is for personal use :P
01:03 < coderphive> oh, yeah. Just use GitLab
01:03 < agent_white> I would just use gitlab.
01:03 < coderphive> There's a lot of folks switching from GitHub to GitLab anyway
01:03 < coderphive> Their starting price point sucks doe
01:03 < coderphive> so my company won't switch yet
01:04 < corn266> We have bitbucket at work and the only expensive part is gov cloud aws bull shit
01:04 < coderphive> yikes
01:05 < coderphive> GovCloud
01:05 < coderphive> shoot me
01:05 < Casteil> I love craigslist
01:05 < Casteil> "toro mower - used only one summer, LIKE NEW!"
01:05 < Casteil> asking price: higher than full retail @ home depot
01:06 < corn266> We reduced the price cause the joker that set it up used their distributed database instead of just taking on a shitty spinning disk
01:07 < corn266> Casteil 0 turn shitty turn or push mower
01:08 < Casteil> self propelled walk behind mower
01:09 < Casteil> this particular one was a toro recycler, not a bad mower
01:09 < Casteil> I've been keeping an eye out for a toro timemaster 30" mower
01:10 < corn266> Never used a toro, mainly honda
01:10 < corn266> My dad's riding mower's engine caught fire and that thing was still chuggin till hurricane mathew showed up
01:11 < Casteil> heh
01:11 < corn266> or hurricane harvey? whichever one hit houston last year
01:11 < Casteil> I want something bigger but I don't really want a riding mower
01:11 < Casteil> hence the desire to get the timemaster
01:12 < rpifan> so i dont get it
01:12 < rootsudo> :\
01:12 < rpifan> why do these people stay at this company when they see all the shit and that nothing gets done
01:12 < rpifan> hey rootsudo, lets go to bonnaroo
01:12 < rootsudo> So I'm watching some Japanese porn and I'm surprised I understand what's being said
01:12 < rootsudo> and I then question why was I watching JAV in the first place
01:12 < corn266> Getcha one of these Casteil https://auctionimages.s3.amazonaws.com/6628/86656/76186359.jpg
01:12 < coderphive> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8n9fze/all_pcs_in_business_going_wireless/dzulz1h
01:13 < agent_white> Casteil: I have the recycler; great thing. Finally starting to get to the point of replacement, but it's lasted a good 8+ years or so.
01:13 < coderphive> I am a bad person
01:13 < rootsudo> Then I skipped around a bit to the end when they spoke more and I'm like "wow, I understood 70% and can fill in the blanks"
01:13 < rootsudo> and now Japanese porn is no longer interesting to me
01:13 < rootsudo> Just felt like sharing it with you guys
01:13 < coderphive> wtf did I return to
01:13 < Casteil> agent_white: why replacement?
01:13 < precise> Bah, what's the point of selfhosting Gitlab if you can't find a VPS that meets the minimum specs for less than a Github subscription
01:13 < coderphive> rootsudo:	and now Japanese porn is no longer interesting to me <- what did you people do to this mans
01:13 < corn266> precise just run it in house?
01:14 < coderphive> precise digital ocean?
01:14 < coderphive> Linode?
01:14 < coderphive> AWS?
01:14 < precise> coderphive: DO is at least $15
01:14 < corn266> Linode is a good one
01:14 < coderphive> GCP?
01:14 < precise> lemme check linode
01:14 < rootsudo> really DO is $15
01:14 < rootsudo> times have changed
01:14 < coderphive> no it's not
01:14 < corn266> I got an AWS lightsail server for free for a year
01:14 < coderphive> Starts at $5
01:14 < precise> coderphive: For a 2 core 4G RAM, it is.
01:14 < rootsudo> coderphive that's what I thought
01:14 < precise> Which Gitlab needs
01:14 < coderphive> precise ah
01:14 < rpifan> how people can be satisfied with just doing the bare minium at work
01:14 < rpifan> and turning a blind eye
01:14 < rpifan> i really dont get it
01:14 < agent_white> Casteil: Ah just wear and tear - the first to go was the ignition little turnsswitch, then one of the wheel sets (level thinger on the side) went so I rigged some coathanger to keep it on, then the plastic handlebar recently snapped. But again, prolly 10 years of use for ~300-400.
01:14 < FrostCyborg> Anyone here have decent experience with HP/Aruba Procurves with modules?  I'm trying to figure out if using "stacking 1 flex-module A remove" will cause any issues to the production of the switch if I've removed all GBICs and cables from the ports in the module.  It's a stack of two 3810Ms and I'm entering a realm of middling experience and I need to reseat the module.  It's showing all the GBICs still connected after removing
01:14 < rpifan> im confused
01:14 < FrostCyborg>  them even after a reboot.
01:14 < rootsudo> rpifan because they don't have any other goals
01:15 < Casteil> agent_white: ah
01:15 < rootsudo> also, I started my new job tuesday and I'm flying out for another interview
01:15 < rootsudo> fuck
01:15 < Casteil> I really want the timemaster but not really keen on throwing $1000 at a push mower
01:15 < coderphive> rpifan bc Work/Life balance fam
01:15 < precise> Why is gitlab so resource heavy
01:15 < rootsudo> Casteil how much do you spend a year on mowing man
01:15 < rootsudo> just pay for someone to do it for you
01:15 < precise> I'm about to just use some fancy SFTP or something
01:15 < coderphive> bruh
01:15 < Casteil> rootsudo: I don't dislike doing it myself
01:15 < rpifan> but its not like this company has the best benefits ever
01:16 < Casteil> and hiring a company to do it would probably run like $40 a week
01:16 < corn266> precise how do you not have a shitty little computer sitting around your house?
01:16 < coderphive> If you actually calculated the cost to run bare metal, you'd probably run to AWS or GCP
01:16 < agent_white> Casteil: Still chuggin' though, actually used it earlier today. For $3-400, well worth it... I would have trouble finding a need for the next level upgrade.
01:16 < precise> coderphive: I could host locally, I just don't feel like it.
01:16 < precise> :P
01:16 < rpifan> i mean, you can fix shit at wor kand go home to your wife and husband
01:16 < rootsudo> " We are looking for someone who can help us with our Microsoft Office 365 migration. The system is setup and the cloud is established, we have some accounts already moved but still need another 1400 moved" Hah I wonder who quit mid contract
01:16 < rpifan> there arent exclusive
01:16 < rpifan> gimme?
01:16 < rootsudo> but man putting 365 on your lI
01:16 < Casteil> agent_white: maybe I'm 'lazy' but my yard takes me an hour to mow and I'd like it to take less XD
01:16 < precise> coderphive: I don't feel like fucking with forwarding and firewall exceptions, my shitty ISP, etc.
01:16 < rootsudo> I keep getting $40-80/hr contracts
01:16 < corn266> fucking even just run it in a virtual machine on your dev computer
01:16 < coderphive> rpifan idk, I've had bad experience with WLBalance people
01:17 < rootsudo> fuck just run it off your dev compuer with impromper permissons
01:17 < coderphive> "Don't call me after 5"
01:17 < coderphive> ok
01:17 < rootsudo> coderphive well then fuck you workaholic
01:17 < coderphive> GOOD
01:17 < rootsudo> fucking IT people all the time want work more
01:17 < rootsudo> Fucking putting the bar up higher and higher
01:17 < precise> IT is so easy to overwork in
01:17 < rootsudo> god damn YOLO and get laid
01:17 < rootsudo> I make sure I spend 4 hours a day at work reddting
01:17 < precise> heh
01:17 < coderphive> Code and cocaine bru
01:17 < rootsudo> I actually like auditing and discovery
01:18 < corn266> it's that cpu fan dust
01:18 < rootsudo> so my new place of work is a fortune 500 company
01:18 < coderphive> look, if I can't hook my family up to CI/CD, I don't want it
01:18 < coderphive> useless
01:18 < coderphive> As Donald Trump would say, "Sad."
01:18 < rootsudo> no asset list, no licensing list, no one has maintained the sp server for over a year and a half, the databases are snapshotted as a backup
01:18 < agent_white> Casteil: Hahah same here, about an hour... only way I could trim it down more would be by adding some landscaping rocks or crap :P But if you don't have a self-propelled yet... snag that mower.
01:18 < rootsudo> they hire consultants out of cost center budgets vs including IT so there's a shit ton of shadow IT
01:19 < rootsudo> credit cards are never audited
01:19 < coderphive> rootsudo do you work in Dallas TX?
01:19 < rpifan> i mean i want to make things nice at work, easy so we can build better things
01:19 < coderphive> I feel like you work in Dallas TX
01:19 < rootsudo> coderphive no, Florida.
01:19 < coderphive> oh, well that explains it
01:19 < corn266> rpifan become a software engineer
01:19 < corn266> it's your calling
01:19 < rpifan> i just dont like objects
01:19 < rpifan> i relaly dont
01:19 < rootsudo> my direct manager and HR director and for my onboarding are on 3 weeks vacay starting last week
01:19 < corn266> don't get into OOP
01:19 < rootsudo> I ahve no direct manager and no goal except "document shit"
01:19 < coderphive> wat
01:19 < rootsudo> and even then not really
01:20 < coderphive> "don't like objects"
01:20 < coderphive> r u high?
01:20 < rpifan> honestly the best part of my work
01:20 < rpifan> is the documentation part
01:20 < rpifan> i enjoy doing that
01:20 < corn266> no he's zen
01:20 < rpifan> and writting little scripts
01:20 < rootsudo> I enjoy just reading and bringin up ideas
01:20 < coderphive> rpifan are you on the autism spectrum?
01:20 < rootsudo> like hell how can a F500 company be in this state
01:20 < rpifan> YESS
01:20 < coderphive> rpifan not being rude bt dub
01:20 < rootsudo> 200 employees that are no longer employed
01:20 < corn266> rootsudo "IT is an expense"
01:21 < rpifan> im actually feelign really autistic today
01:21 < rpifan> its like i dont get it
01:21 < rpifan> no matter what i try its not just come through
01:21 < rpifan> coming
01:21 < rootsudo> still have active o365 licenses and I'm like "hm, 200 * $25/month, rough average of 6 months for everyone from date of being disabled
01:21 < coderphive> Try QA Engineering
01:21 < coderphive> people with mild autism tend to excel at it
01:21 < rpifan> seems boring
01:21 < coderphive> it is
01:21 < corn266> rpifan just because she's being nice to you doesn't mean she likes you, she's just being a cashier
01:21 < coderphive> That's the point
01:22 < rootsudo> That's fucking 30k that I just found in savings for the company in just active licenses lol not to mention the shoddy business processes the guys have for automation, which is none
01:22 < rootsudo> though I'm also amused, this company had an SP consultant for $300/hr
01:22 < rootsudo> and I'm like "what a nice gig that is"
01:22 < rpifan> just cause my boss is nice to me.....?
01:22 < corn266> your boss is a chashier?
01:22 < rootsudo> so yeah basically I'm the worst o365 admin/architect in time because I just don't give a damn
01:22 < coderphive> rootsudo you work in Florida
01:23 < precise> coderphive: I'm booting up a local VM now, thanks for your input :)
01:23 < rootsudo> still not bad for 2nd day
01:23 < coderphive> I don't know what you expected
01:23 < coderphive> precise np!
01:23 < corn266> rootsudoare you florida man?
01:23 < precise> corn266 as well!
01:23 < rootsudo> corn266 actually that's a very scary joke now
01:23 < coderphive> Alright
01:23 < corn266> np precise
01:23 < rootsudo> Florida man is mainstream and we talk about it to avoid that being us
01:23 < coderphive> I gotta go
01:23 < coderphive> peace
01:23 < rootsudo> Like even in my travels they fucking knew about that man
01:24 < corn266> he's a super hero; someone we all aspire to be
01:24 < rootsudo> "where do you live in the usa?" "Florida" "oh, you're florida man?" "wow no, "I d on't say hold my beer... not yet"
01:24 < corn266> but with great power comes great responsibility
01:24 <+Tuxedojack> "Don't put that key in IT Glue. That's a VLK used for terminal server activation and the scrubs will use it for pirate installs."
01:24 <+Tuxedojack> "And when that server comes unactivated?"
01:24 <+Tuxedojack> "That's the helpdesk's problem."
01:24 <+Tuxedojack> MOTHER. FUCKER.
01:24 < rootsudo> People in Florida dont' know what responsibility is
01:24 < rpifan> sigh
01:24 < corn266> Tuxedojack ++
01:25 < corn266> Tuxedojack is your life just one large IT comedy website?
01:25 <+CheckYourSix> If I have my existing profile on Windows 10 and it's local, but I now want to use an AD profile without losing all of my settings and stuff, can I just copy my current user profile over into the (basically empty) AD user profile folder?
01:25 <+Tuxedojack> corn266: not so much comedy as "I'm going to fucking murder everyone"
01:25 <+Tuxedojack> CheckYourSix: use Transwiz?
01:25 < corn266> just give it some time
01:26 < CoJaBo> Probably the most amusing command prompt I've seen in a while: I have no name!@dev:/dev$
01:26 <+CheckYourSix> Tuxedojack: Never heard of it. I'm a Windows noob
01:26 <+Tuxedojack> https://www.forensit.com/move-computer.html
01:26 < corn266> CheckYourSix then you must be amazing at redhat and I still can't figure out what SELinux type /dev/freefall should have
01:26 < rootsudo> CheckYourSix AD profile or you can use redirection with onedrive
01:26 <+CheckYourSix> corn266: Lol nah
01:27 < corn266> also now that I think of it there aren't any spinning drives in the laptop so /dev/freefall is entirely useless
01:27 <+CheckYourSix> Tuxedojack: Any special requirements? Like do I need to log in as a separate user to do it?
01:28 <+Tuxedojack> Should work as you
01:29 < rootsudo> wow
01:29 < rootsudo> Walmart minimum salary is now $12 across the country
01:29 < corn266> mom
01:29 < rootsudo> that's a bit sad
01:29 <+CheckYourSix> rootsudo: Holy fuck
01:29 <+CheckYourSix> When did that happen
01:29 < rootsudo> In high cost of living areas it can be as high as $20/hr
01:30 < corn266> woah
01:30 < rootsudo> CheckYourSix who knows man I'm just reading this article on NYT
01:30 < Casteil> <rootsudo> Walmart minimum salary is now $12 across the country < I very much doubt this
01:30 < rootsudo> And to think some Help Desk jobs pay $15-20/hr
01:30 < rootsudo> That's just insulting IMO
01:30 < rootsudo> Casteil https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/business/walmart-college-tuition.html
01:30 < corn266> I got paid $11.50 peak at my helldesk job
01:31 < rootsudo> Also $1/day for free tution, which means $365/year in return to pay $5000+
01:31 < rootsudo> "staging demonstrations in Bentonville through the week — argue that the company should raise hourly wages to at least $15, a figure that Walmart’s rival Target has committed to" Wow
01:31 < rootsudo> Target pays $15/hr
01:31 < Casteil> yeah, part of me is kinda butthurt that I only make like $5/hr more than a friend of mine
01:32 < corn266> most of that $5000+ won't go into effect until after college, so... $365 will cut down on the interest at least
01:32 < Casteil> Frankly though the right positions at my old company (large national retailer) can pay $15-20/hr
01:32 < misspwn_> welp time to quit job and go work a target
01:32 < Casteil> which isn't bad if you're not professionally qualified for much
01:32 < corn266> rootsudo you gotta be a straight edge god fearing man to work at target though
01:33 < rootsudo> corn266 you mean people don't lie at interviews?
01:33 < misspwn_> wat??? nonsense, target give zero fucks what you are
01:33 < misspwn_> i used to work there in the early 2000s
01:33 < corn266> weird, guess it was the area
01:33 < DLSteve> Casteil, I made $21ish stocking cheese at Costco.
01:34 < Casteil> yeah
01:34 < misspwn_> yeah and actually the target in my area they must not care or not have an active policy on facial piercings, visible tattoos, or hair color
01:34 < misspwn_> it's the new hottopic
01:34 <+CheckYourSix> Tuxedojack: Looks like it worked. I guess it just uses a redirect
01:34 < Casteil> that kinda shit makes me feel a little less bad about occasionally having some downtime to just browse Reddit @ work
01:35 < rootsudo> DLSteve wow
01:35 < rootsudo> That's a pretty good job than
01:35 < DLSteve> Casteil, I do that anyway >.>
01:35 < Casteil> I don't make a killing, it's enough to have allowed me to purchase a decent house and drive a decent car... but I'm not married and I don't have any kids or any other significant expenses
01:35 < rootsudo> And it's not a bad job
01:36 < misspwn_> Casteil, when you got it good, just enjoy the ride
01:36 < misspwn_> build up that safety net
01:36 < rootsudo> The problem though in retail and such is the low floor, anyone can do it and I hate that - one thing I like about being in IT and in fancy companies is the experience of everyone
01:36 < Casteil> the fear of medical expenses is always looming
01:36 < rootsudo> I worked in retail for 4 months before and just everyone is shitty
01:36 < rootsudo> Low aspirations, low moral, low goals, all fearful of each other
01:36 < Casteil> misspwn_: my month to month disposable income isn't quite where I'd like it to be for significant savings
01:36 <+CheckYourSix> So $11/hour, not $12/hour
01:37 < rootsudo> CheckYourSix you caught me. Congrats for reading the article!
01:37 < misspwn_> eh you'll get there, we all will. some faster than others.
01:37 < Casteil> I'd really like to be paying an extra $500/mo more on my mortgage
01:37 < corn266> Casteil buy gold and bury it, then claim bankruptcy for medical bills, then unbury the gold and live kingly
01:37 < rootsudo> CheckYourSix Only you read it to call me out, lol.
01:37 <+CheckYourSix> rootsudo: Well, it's money related, so...
01:37 < corn266> If they ask about the gold, you lost it in the gold rush
01:37 < DLSteve> rootsudo, I was in retail for 9 years, I had to re think what I was doing when I asked myself if it was likely that I would be replaced by robots before I could retire.
01:37 < rootsudo> 9 years you can never get back
01:37 < rootsudo> I don't know, in IT, 9 years means good stories of fuckery
01:38 < corn266> "We figured out we could set login sounds and wallpapers by editing the registry of each other's computers... every day when my coworker logged in the A-Team themesong would play"
01:38 < Casteil> man I have good fuckery stores in just 2 years
01:38 < Casteil> not the kind of fuckery stores I like to share while I'm here though
01:39 < DLSteve> I'd ague that those 9 years were very beneficial, they were also not dead years as far as my IT career went as I was going to school and did freelance web development on the side.
01:39 < Casteil> I can share one experience from today though
01:39 < Casteil> my boss clued me in on an upcoming termination before I got any sort of wind from HR about it
01:39 < corn266> F
01:40 < Casteil> he sent an email to me and the HR manager along the lines of "please let my guys know when they need to terminate the access"
01:40 <+NinjaStyle> i once used tamper evident wire ties on like every single thing on my co-workers desks
01:40 <+NinjaStyle> if that counts as fuckery
01:41 < corn266> Casteil if it's any condolences, I found out my ISSO was leaving 2 days before-hand from my FSO who was living with him (no homo)
01:41 < Casteil> there were a few back and forth emails from HR manager to location manager and such... and finally they agreed on a time to synchronize the termination and I finally responded.. "Access will be terminated at noon as agreed. Thanks for the heads up, due to the accessibility of our application it's important we're able to coordinate deactivation to mitigate any potential risk during sensitive terminations"
01:42 < Casteil> (the heads up actually came from my boss)
01:42 < rootsudo> Casteil still thats depressing it came in an email instead of in person
01:42 < DLSteve> Casteil, We get those emails all the time. Usually when someone with privileged access is leaving.
01:42 < rootsudo> Though man, let me say, I am confused about a team that talks shop during lunch
01:42 < misspwn_> that doesn't sound like too much fuckery though
01:43 < rootsudo> granted we only work 7-8 hours a day none of that required 1hr off fuckery
01:43 < Casteil> rootsudo: Not really?? there's no reason not to do it via email
01:43 < misspwn_> fuckery to me would be like when someone is getting canned and HR sends the email to IT and then you close the ticket out and they get an email saying that they are shitcanned
01:43 < misspwn_> (i've done that)
01:43 < DLSteve> Casteil, depends on the size of the company.
01:43 < corn266> yea I think Casteil mixed fuckery with dickery
01:43 < Casteil> it was coordination between credential managers (myself in this case), my boss, HR manager, and the location manager
01:43 < misspwn_> way to find out you're fired in a meeting on a presentation and your email pops up
01:44 < Casteil> I'm not being fired..
01:44 < Casteil> lol
01:44 < corn266> oh well wtf
01:44 < misspwn_> Casteil, that's because i didn't get an email from HR for you yet
01:44 < corn266> same for you misspwn_ ...
01:44 < misspwn_> ;)
01:45 < misspwn_> well when an email blast came through to all engineers today and i didn't see it in my outlook on my phone i was like...welp i guess that means i'm fired
01:45 < Casteil> <Casteil> my boss clued me in on an upcoming termination before I got any sort of wind from HR about it < Termination of another employee, lol.... not me
01:45 < corn266> Sorry you were terminated Casteil maybe you can mow lawns for a living
01:45 < misspwn_> we were complaining and kinda huddling around with nothing to do and an email got sent out for that
01:45 < Casteil> I'd say I have pretty solid job security..
01:45 < DLSteve> I honestly never see 90% of our terminations, it's all automated.
01:46 < DLSteve> When they are terminated in HR the provisioning system kills all their accounts.
01:46 < Casteil> I've been point on our in-house internal sales/service software project for over a year and no one knows more about this shit than I do
01:46 < agent_white> My boss accidentally entered his google-search term of the position into team chat... then everyone in my team started shitting bricks.
01:46 < misspwn_> well maybe others were complaining, i was standing around waiting for more 3CX messages to record
01:46 < corn266> DLSteve $5 says the helpdesk employees in the sweat shop downstairs are issuing T500's on their AD accounts
01:46 < misspwn_> hahah sheeet
01:46 < corn266> or is it T800
01:47 < Casteil> I can't even imagine a set of circumstances leading up to me being fired unless the company goes under
01:48 < DLSteve> corn266, T800 is from Terminator 2.
01:48 < corn266> There was some code we put on a user's AD object that initiated the deletion procedure of all AD integrated things
01:48 < corn266> I can't remember the code though
01:48 < Casteil> (my boss literally just bought me a shiny new XPS 9570 with a 4K display (**shiny**) so that I've got more processing power for building/debugging our application, it's highly unlikely there's any whiff of the company wanting me gone :P )
01:49 < enix> Could you imagine if all civilization was wiped out and all that remained was a hard drive wil pixel art on it
01:49 < DLSteve> corn266, We have to have a provisioning systems, you can't really manage 300k employee accounts without one.
01:49 < enix> I feel like aliens would be very confused
01:49 < corn266> Fair enough, our team was maybe 8 for ~250-350 employees
01:49 < corn266> enix pixel art hentai
01:49  * enix is out
01:51 < rootsudo> Anyone here ever started a call center?
01:51 < misspwn_> <
01:52 < misspwn_> I worked in a call center doing reservations for northwest airlines before they were delta. kinda transitioned into IT when they found out i was using irssi and i was all..well the port wasn't blocked
01:52 < misspwn_> spose i could have gotten fired
01:53 < DLSteve> "I didn't know I could not do that officer!"
01:54 < misspwn_> well technically i didn't install anything since putty just runs, but yeah no one told me i couldn't or could so i took that as a yes
01:54 < DLSteve> The linux admins had an internal IRC server set up before they moved to Slack.
01:55 < misspwn_> started as a bagger bagging groceries on a military base for tips only and tips were not required to housekeeping/trailer unloading/gas stations/retail/cash jobs etc
01:56 < agent_white> I started at a repair shop, then call center, then to NOC. Now trying to figure out where to go from here.
01:57 <+NinjaStyle> i started as a intern IT tech
01:57 < DLSteve> I started at Chick-fil-A...
01:57 < DLSteve> I made $6 an hour so most of my pay was supplemented with free chicken.
01:58 <+NinjaStyle> dope
02:00 < misspwn_> oh man DLSteve i remember when minimum wage went from 5.15 to 5.50 an hour
02:00 < misspwn_> i thought i was fucking riiiich
02:00 <+NinjaStyle> :(
02:00 < misspwn_> i was officially too rich to get foodstamps at that point by 25cents an hour over
02:00 < agent_white> Would jumping from NOC to sysadmin be best through a jr. sysadmin slot?
02:01 < catbeard> jsa are sluts
02:01 < catbeard> oh SLOTS
02:01 < agent_white> That's why I would be great at it.
02:01 < agent_white> ;)
02:01 < misspwn_> eh personally titles are meaningless to me. a jr sysamdin just means a low level and you'll be doing bitch work. if you like doing bitch work than yeah
02:01 < DLSteve> what does a jr sysadmin do?
02:02 < catbeard> whatever anyone else wants
02:02 < misspwn_> password resets and escalate shit you cant do in 30minutes usually
02:02 < catbeard> you'll do shit work, scan, crack copyrights
02:03 <+Tuxedojack> Mac support
02:03 <+Tuxedojack> Because fuck them, that's why
02:03 < catbeard> things worse than death
02:03 < misspwn_> you'll do all the easy work for the sysadmin so when or if it finally goes to them they'll google it and resolve it
02:03 < misspwn_> maybe automate some shit
02:04 < DLSteve> Ah okay, thats the problem working in a large company is that I never see any of the desktop aspect of sysadmin. I'm 100% in the server/services space.
02:04 < agent_white> Isn't that helpdesk though? I'm aiming away from workstation support, coming from a CLEC environment... but linux sysadmin I don't think I could take on right away.
02:04 < misspwn_> i mean obviously there will be those who will disagree and possibly take offence when i say what's the difference between helpdesk and jr sysadmin but to me they are the same
02:04 < agent_white> misspwn_: Yeah that's what I did at my old gig, I was the 'first devop' since I am a NOC who can program in a handful of languages.
02:04 < misspwn_> it's the same principal
02:04 < catbeard> would you rather be wiring a 66 block or setting up a wifi AP
02:05 < precise> AP
02:05 < precise> Hands down
02:05 < precise> Fuck wiring
02:05 < DLSteve> "why are you handing me hardware?"
02:05 < misspwn_> agent_white, so then go for the gold, don't apply for a jr position
02:05 < misspwn_> forget what the requirements are and just apply
02:06 < misspwn_> well don't apply for a programming position if you've never even picked up html outside of myspace days
02:06 < catbeard> ^
02:06 <+NinjaStyle> for real, anyone who doesnt apply because the of the job posting is asking to not progress in their career
02:06 < DLSteve> I suck too much at terminating CAT5 in order to do wiring.
02:06 < catbeard> CAT5 what's that uncle steve? sounds old
02:07 < misspwn_> i applied for mine and i know i didn't meet a bunch of the requirements and didn't lie about those skills
02:07 < misspwn_> i'm like yeah i'm absolute shit when it comes to networking but that's because i didn't really have much hands on with it and am capable
02:08 < DLSteve> catbeard, I had to learn about token ring networks and Novell NetWare in school lol.
02:08 < catbeard> blunt rotation network
02:08 < rootsudo> DLSteve that's good, you're missing nothing
02:09 < rootsudo> help desk work is worthless
02:09 < rootsudo> honestly I'm interesting in both the 66 block and wifi AP
02:10 < rootsudo> improper wiring can break communication man and if the AP is stitauted right inside a microwave will also make me mad
02:10 < DLSteve> rootsudo, I do T4 work, I only get called if something gnarly happened and our T3 guys can't figure it out.
02:10 < misspwn_> DLSteve, https://imgur.com/a/wMGOnEN CAT6 is bullshit with the plastic core, i learned that one
02:10 < rootsudo> so most of the time you reddit DLSteve
02:10 < rootsudo> I feel bad my entire help desk team is worthless
02:10 < rootsudo> "oh we can't MDT image the surfacebooks because the dock isn't PNP'
02:11 < DLSteve> rootsudo, I do a lot of systems architecture and interrogations development.
02:11 < rootsudo> no thought of using a usb to lan adapter which ahs been standard for the past decade since the ultrabooks
02:11 < rootsudo> DLSteve that's what I'm doing now in o365
02:11 < rootsudo> "like wtf is a o365 architect"
02:11 < misspwn_> ugh i get salty when it comes to surface books or surface-things. their clam shell or brick docks are garbage and the firmware on them breaks
02:11 < agent_white> misspwn_: I spose so. And yeah the post requirements never deter me... I just have been trying to find things to study up on in the meantime to help fill my knowledge gaps (traffic shaping/policing/qdisc stuff,load balacing/fault-tolterance, CI/CE, containers/cgroups&namespacing) that seem like I should know going into a sysadmin role.
02:12 < misspwn_> that's good to keep up, but technology is everchanging so it does help
02:12 < agent_white> I'm a great NOC engineer, but like... a intro/shitty 'devop' dude. Haha.
02:13 <+NinjaStyle> git gud
02:13 < rootsudo> I agree the surfacebooks are a bit eh
02:13 < agent_white> rite?
02:13 < misspwn_> i ask my more senior people how they started or what they do and they are like "i just fucking google it all"
02:13 < rootsudo> but I like it its nice but man the macbook pro is better
02:13 < misspwn_> so i mean..
02:14 < rootsudo> oh snap
02:14 < misspwn_> if you've done any sort of monitoring you could pass off as a NOC engineer, but what does that even mean
02:14 < rootsudo> Google interview tomorrow
02:14 < misspwn_> not downplaying
02:14 < misspwn_> n i c eeeeeeee rootsudo
02:14 <+NinjaStyle> rootsudo: good luck
02:14 < rootsudo> HAs anyone here worked at google?
02:14 < DLSteve> misspwn_, lol, thats mostly what I do. If you are using new tech the only way to really learn it is to read the docs that are hopefully available or if it's really new you read the code directly.
02:14 <+NinjaStyle> they are not ez
02:14 <+NinjaStyle> rootsudo: i have interviewed for google
02:14 < misspwn_> ask them how long it takes as an employee before they giv eyou the chip implant
02:14 < DLSteve> rootsudo, My brother was there for a little while.
02:15 < DLSteve> rootsudo, What kind of position are you going for?
02:16 < catbeard> fb is trying to interview me for the 3rd time this year
02:16 < catbeard> always contacting me through linkedin
02:17 < DLSteve> from what I have seen Google is big on problem solving and scaling questions. If it's programming related then brush up on your data structures!
02:17 <+NinjaStyle> catbeard: why not do it?
02:17 <+NinjaStyle> my google interview was very *nix oriented
02:18 <+NinjaStyle> it was for a linux sysadmin / security admin
02:18 <+NinjaStyle> so it made sense
02:19 < agent_white> misspwn_: Oh definitely, nagi(os), cacti, $flavoroftheyear... and I do config management on my personal machine and servers (Vagrant + Chef). So I think I'm nearing a sysadmin slot, but those other areas I think I need to fill first? idk.
02:19 < JollyRgrs> rootsudo: so google uses sharepoint, huh?
02:19 < rhqq> test
02:20 < rhqq> can you guys read me?
02:20 < misspwn_> agent_white, no way, just go for it!
02:20 <+NinjaStyle> agent_white: no, fake it till you make it
02:20 < misspwn_> rhqq, instructions unclear, peeing on cop car
02:20 <+NinjaStyle> agent_white: but also be honest
02:20 < JollyRgrs> rhqq: you said something, but it was blank
02:20 < JollyRgrs> try again
02:20 <+NinjaStyle> people hate a kid who is full of shit
02:20 < rhqq> ok, great
02:20 < JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
02:20 < rhqq> i guess my simcard is toasted...
02:20 < JollyRgrs> rhqq: yeah, probably so
02:20 < rhqq> it's second time  actually
02:21 < rhqq> in liast 4 years
02:21 < misspwn_> fake it till you make it and are capable of learning and not asking people the same stuff over and over without writing it down or trying
02:21 < rhqq> i can connect, via pppd/chat
02:21 < agent_white> NinjaStyle: Oh yeah, hell no. I'm the 'if I don't know I want to know' type... bullshitting only digs a deeper put.
02:21 < rhqq> i can send at commands back and forth to isp
02:21 < agent_white> s/put/pit/
02:22 <+NinjaStyle> agent_white: you would be surprised how much your attitude matters in an interview. people will prefer the guy who is eager to learn and seems sharp over the asshole with all the experience
02:22 < catbeard> qq iphone lusers
02:22 < catbeard> when you add an exchange account, it doesn't prompt you for inbound/outbound server details right?
02:22 < catbeard> like it would for IMAP
02:25 < JollyRgrs> catbeard: is it an O365 account?
02:25 < JollyRgrs> or are you joining it while on the domain's network?
02:26 < JollyRgrs> you need to provide address to server otherwise, but not two servers
02:26 < JollyRgrs> just the "exchange server"
02:27 < misspwn_> yeah NinjaStyle is right, i think we interviewed someone today that has a lot of exp but isn't gona be the right fit
02:28 < rootsudo> JollyRgrs No
02:29 < rootsudo> JollyRgrs but I have a cloud engineer interview with them so who the fuck knows
02:29 < JollyRgrs> cool
02:29 < rootsudo> NinjaStyle How was it
02:29 < rootsudo> JollyRgrs My main role now is as sharepoint admint where I actually know how to use it
02:29 <+NinjaStyle> rootsudo: hard
02:29 <+NinjaStyle> i got werkt
02:29 < rootsudo> JollyRgrs The company had two prior IT people quit in the first day
02:30 < JollyRgrs> b/c they didn't say "sharepoint" until the first day?
02:30 < rootsudo> but I'm bored so I'm having fun talking to people and thinking how 2 intranet because it's easy
02:30 < rootsudo> JollyRgrs probably
02:30 < JollyRgrs> lol
02:30 < rootsudo> The company has no defined business process
02:31 <@cryptic1> evening
02:31 < rootsudo> it's a small company that made F500 and has venture funding
02:31 < rootsudo> it makes no fucking sense
02:32 <+NinjaStyle> there are a few pretty small companies on f500
02:35 < kadosh> has anyone here migrated data from postgresql to mariadb, but the db has some geolocation data (Point Type)
02:35 < DLSteve> You are migrating the data the wrong way!
02:36 < DLSteve> should be going to postgres!
02:36 < kadosh> @DLSteve I agree with you xD but sometimes clients are crazzy xD
02:38 < DLSteve> kadosh, so do you actually use some of the features of the geolocation data  type?
02:38  * precise smacks cryptic1 
02:39 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work!
02:39 <@cryptic1> Ban precise
02:39 <@cryptic1> D:
02:39 < DLSteve> If not you can just convert them to lat and long float columns
02:39 < corn266> cryptic1is tuna not the best snack ever
02:39  * precise feeds cryptic1 to his cat
02:40 < corn266> well i guess not then
02:40 < precise> Oh wait
02:40 < precise> I misread
02:40 < precise> I thought corn266 called cryptic1 tuna...
02:40 < corn266> rip precise's cat
02:40 < precise> D:
02:40 <@cryptic1> Haha
02:40 < corn266> what kind of cat though
02:40 < rhqq> "its my cat and im going to fuck it whenever i want" ~~precise
02:40 < precise> corn266: Rescue
02:40 < precise> rhqq: wot
02:41 < corn266> "its my horse and i'm going to fuck it whenever I want" ~~ rhqq
02:41 < rhqq> look at my horse
02:41 < rhqq> my horse's amazing
02:41 < DLSteve> corn266, Thats outlawed in Washington thanks to that Boeing engineer.
02:42 < corn266> ugh you what
02:42 < kadosh> @DLSteve, yeah those are for geolocation
02:42 < kadosh> we track earthquakes
02:42 < nohusuro> honeslty, who the crap are buying these for them to think that's a reasonable price? https://i.imgur.com/HlBdsPC.jpg
02:43 < DLSteve> corn266, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumclaw_horse_sex_case
02:43 < rhqq> wut
02:43 < rhqq> 4tb ssd for over 2k
02:43 < corn266> nohusuro i was actually looking at those today to possibly purchase for a 10TB data move
02:43 < rootsudo> mr hands
02:43 < nohusuro> you're insane
02:43 < catbeard> Steve Austin?
02:43 < catbeard> is that you Stone Cold?
02:43 < rhqq> when 500gb 860pro can be found under 150
02:44 < nohusuro> yeah, it's nuts
02:44 < corn266> CAN'T SEE ME
02:44 < nohusuro> average SSD price is $0.33 / GB atm
02:44 < nojeffrey> On Manjaro/KDE5 trying to add a new VPN connection, when I try to connect, i get this error in journalctl: result="fail" reason="The VPN service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.fortisslvpn' was not installed." I cant find anything in google or pacman for this fortisslvpn package
02:44 < nohusuro> meaning these should be priced around $1300-$1500
02:45 < catbeard> nojeffrey: https://github.com/GNOME/network-manager-fortisslvpn
02:45 < rhqq> nohusuro: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-Internal-MZ-76E4T0B-AM/dp/B07864XY8B/
02:45 < nojeffrey> catbeard ta
02:45 < nohusuro> rhqq: US price right?
02:45 < rhqq> ya
02:45 < nohusuro> should have said, the image I posted was AUD
02:45 < rhqq> 1.1k for 4tb
02:46 < rhqq> thats even below 0.33
02:46 < corn266> So what you're saying is I should buy 12x1TB SSDs instead of 3x4TB SSDs
02:46 < nohusuro> still, that's 1.4k AUD
02:46 < nohusuro> so a more reasonable price
02:46 < rhqq> corn266: no, not really, one i linked is actually fine
02:46 < rhqq> no idea why did nohusuro bring up this issue
02:47 < nohusuro> rhqq: just australia getting fleeced as per usual
02:47 < rhqq> you're fucked. because australia
02:47 < corn266> oh wow
02:47 < matjam> nojeffrey: https://github.com/adrienverge/openfortivpn
02:48 < corn266> rhqq that's a good price
02:48 < matjam> nojeffrey: though I suggest you use https://hadler.me/linux/openfortigui/ as I find it's a lot more reliable than the network manager bollocks
02:48 < rhqq> corn266: i know ;-)
02:49 < corn266> though the fastest connect our machine has is either USB 3.0 or thunderbolt 3 type C, soo... it may be useless
02:49 < nojeffrey> matjam ta, there's a package in AUR, let me try this first
02:49 < matjam> openfortigui has openfortivpn built-in so just grab that
02:49 < rhqq> corn266: well, i cant see the issue
02:49 < rhqq> since they're all sata
02:50 < rhqq> tb3 would saturate that easily
02:50 < rhqq> personally im waiting for some hardcore intel optane stuff
02:50 < corn266> rhqq it's a laptop
02:50 < rhqq> you want 3 huge ass ssds into a laptop?
02:50 < genr8_> how do you know if your type C port supports thunderbolt or not ?
02:50 < corn266> it already has 3x1TB ssds
02:51 < corn266> we need 12TB as external storage /just/ to get the data flowing
02:51 < rhqq> eh
02:51 < rhqq> data hoarders
02:51 < corn266> output will be another 10TB or so
02:52 < corn266> we're processing the data, not hoarding it
02:52 < rhqq> ON_A_LAPTOP
02:52 < corn266> THAT IS WHAT I SAID TO THE C LEVEL
02:52 < rhqq> xD
02:52 < rhqq> no more questions
02:52 < corn266> they said "oh when we needed a laptop classified it was a 10 questionnaire worksheet and we were done"
02:53 < corn266> THAT. DOESN'T. okay whatever you say
02:53 < AustinS> stone cold? ;o!
02:54 < AustinS> was definitely spaced out/tabbed away lol
02:55 < corn266> so which one of you faggots drank a whole bottle of tobasco
02:59 < AustinS> what's wrong with tobasco D:
02:59 < misspwn_> tobasco isn't all that good :P
02:59 < rhqq> i have no idea why do people like tobasco
02:59 < rhqq> it's... awful in taste
02:59 < misspwn_> it tastes like pepper to me
02:59 < corn266> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq66ZbutU38
02:59 <+NinjaStyle> the chipotle tobasco is good
02:59 < misspwn_> bitter asshole pepper
02:59 < AustinS> yeah i actually don't really like it / almost never have it
02:59 < genr8_> i have a bottle of it sitting on my desk behind my monitor
02:59 <+NinjaStyle> pepper is dabes
03:00 < AustinS> just wanted to be offended
03:00 < rhqq> i mean like majority of vinegar based hot sauces
03:00 < rhqq> they all suck
03:00 < AustinS> ^ yeah it's the vinegar i dislike
03:00 < genr8_> thats the best part
03:00 < corn266> What about taco bell fire
03:00 < misspwn_> cholula, harissa, sriracha, various sauces i like to have
03:00 < AustinS> well taco bell anything is great
03:00 < genr8_> i have those too
03:00 < corn266> also see above youtube URL for my reference
03:00 < genr8_> now i want taco bell
03:00 < misspwn_> great me too
03:00 < AustinS> there's one on my way home.... :3
03:01 < misspwn_> maybe genr8_ will order us all taco bell
03:01 < corn266> woo!
03:01 < genr8_> i wish they delivered
03:01 < AustinS> corn266 you know where to send it to me <3
03:01 <+NinjaStyle> get me some
03:01 < misspwn_> you could use postmates, doordash, or uber eats but i wouldn't waste a delivery fee on taco bell
03:02 < AustinS> ive never seen an uber eats that does tbell, just trash mcdonalds
03:02 < AustinS> otherwise i'd be mad fat
03:02 < AustinS> or im just living/visiting allllll the wrong places
03:03 < misspwn_> let's all get fat/er together
03:04 < AustinS> :)
03:04 < corn266> ffs "who is bethesda" "they made skyrim" "oooooooooooh well I'm excited for their new game then"
03:04 < rhqq> skyrim was meh
03:05 < rhqq> i mean most of their games were meh
03:05 <+NinjaStyle> tru
03:06 < rhqq> like comparing to what wither 3 did...
03:06 < corn266> oblivion was imo their best, but pc gamers before my time hailed morrowind which I cannot attest. Skyrim was completely meh if not a lesser meh, but Fallout 3 was great and NV was a good angle on an established story
03:06 < rhqq> fallout 3 was an utter garbage for first year
03:06 < rhqq> i mean, they released a fucking alpha version
03:06 < rhqq> with gameplay/storyline breaking bugs in main questline
03:08 < catbeard> ok so to add the exchange account to iPhone 7
03:08 < catbeard> it's requiring both Domain and Server
03:08 < catbeard> so for server if i put the hostname of the server running the exchange stuff
03:08 < catbeard> and leave domain blank
03:08 < catbeard> that should work
03:09 <+NinjaStyle> why
03:09 <+NinjaStyle> no domain?
03:10 < corn266> rhqq my parents were never rich enough to afford fallout 3 on release, so I can't really speak against it
03:10 < catbeard> it says not to
03:10 < rhqq> corn266: who said i ever paid for it
03:10 < catbeard> Zimbra exchange
03:11 < xamithan> Who pays for games on release?
03:11 < rhqq> corn266: until like 3 years ago i never bought a single game, they were all too expensive to me
03:11 < catbeard> xamithan: borderlands 2 players
03:11 < corn266> rhqq whoever said my first computer didn't succumb to limewire
03:11 < xamithan> I waited like a year and got the entire pack for 10 bucks or something
03:11 < rhqq> xamithan: yeah, i did that with wither 3
03:12 < xamithan> I'm going to buy tropico 6 on release though >.<
03:12 < xamithan> From one of those cd-key selling places
03:12 < corn266> aren't they only on 4 though
03:12 < AustinS> when I had exchange on iphone it worked with or without the "domain\"
03:12 < xamithan> Nah 5 has been out for a few years,  but it really sucks compared to 4
03:12 < AustinS> i think it *may* depend on if your AD server has one or more domains though, at least I remember that was some conditional thing with kerberos
03:13 < xamithan> They dumped it down to put it on consoles.  Speaking of that,  6 will be released on consoles too =(
03:13 < corn266> well xamithan rip the tropico series
03:13 < xamithan> If you want to know why game makers use the same engine for 10 years...  Just blame consoles
03:14 < corn266> that's why I specified morrowind, since the rest were built for console and just fucked up the immersibility with loading towns and the like
03:14 <+NinjaStyle> xamithan: game engines take a lot of time to dev though
03:15 < corn266> NinjaStyle no one's saying they don't, but why dev for statically assigned hardware instead of a broad range of capabilities
03:16 < genr8_> everyones been hating on Unity lately but its the best one
03:16 < corn266> fuck Unity
03:16 < xamithan> There is only one reason I like Unity.  It works on linux
03:16 < rhqq> true
03:16 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: what diff does it make? its actually far easier to optimize for less hardware
03:16 <+NinjaStyle> ask Apple
03:16 < catbeard> you're easier to optimize
03:16 < corn266> unless you're trying to upgrade later games and port them over xamithan rhqq
03:17 < corn266> our game dev dept doesn't want to move to unix dev on unity because it'd take at least 6 months to a year to update /everything/
03:17 < catbeard> maybe you should then focus on making it cross platform and still windows compat instead of just for unity
03:18 < precise> Nano > Unity
03:18 < rhqq> well, i dont care really. all 3 games i play are working on linux
03:18 < catbeard> or focus on windows on virtualbox support
03:18 < corn266> Also NinjaStyle I get where games devs come from, but at the saturation of the PC market atm it doesn't make sense to make for console
03:18 <+NinjaStyle> i think the console market is plenty large and profitable
03:18 < corn266> catbeard the devs compile their frontend on windows and their backend on centos i have 0 (zero) idea what they are doing
03:18 < xamithan> console market is large enough to have their own separate market imo
03:19 < xamithan> Give those fuckers some exclusive titles like call of duty and madden and let the money roll in
03:19 < corn266> xamithan then dev console against pc instead of together to hinder them
03:19 < AustinS> bleh windows on virtualbox lol (on that right now)
03:20 < corn266> betcha windows wants to be in hyper-V
03:20 < xamithan> It wants to be in citrix
03:20 <+NinjaStyle> gross
03:20 < corn266> i'm also dying of scurvy
03:21 < catbeard> i'm dying of Valerie Jarrett's stupidity
03:22 < corn266> I quit ciggarettes last satudray morning and haven't touched one since
03:22 < AustinS> well i mean the Windows guest is behaving fine
03:22 < AustinS> but it still is :|
03:22 < rpifan> good
03:22 < catbeard> https://i.imgur.com/bj6ALRD.png
03:22 < rpifan> congrats
03:22 < xamithan> Just MJ for you now?
03:22 < AustinS> just on this VM so i dont trigger dumb alerts for connecting to an IRC port lmao
03:22 < AustinS> sodumb
03:23 < corn266> I. Fucking. Wish. xamithan
03:23 < rpifan> probably fake
03:30 < corn266> So colorado citizens... If I were to visit this weekend where would be a good place to stay
03:30 < xamithan> colorado is a big state
03:30 < rpifan> a nice little hotel
03:30 < rpifan> on zoni street
03:30 < corn266> I wanna smoke some dank and chill
03:30 < catbeard> if only dispensaries had cots
03:30 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: are you going to be in denver?
03:31 < bvierra> grr
03:31 < bvierra> cogent is pissing me off
03:31 < precise> corn266: Don't stay at the AirBNB on 15th by the REI. Fuck that guy.
03:31 <+NinjaStyle> precise: lol
03:31 < precise> Who gives a drunk dudes bed away?
03:31 < corn266>  /searching for AirBnB on 15th by REI
03:31 < rpifan> airbnb is useless
03:31 < rpifan> just get a hotel
03:31 < rpifan> theres cheap ones
03:31 < xamithan> Nah just go with couchsurfing
03:31 < precise> corn266: Main pic is of a view from a skyscraper, the BNB is in a first floor condo....
03:31 < xamithan> Free
03:32 < precise> lies
03:32 < rpifan> that true
03:32 < corn266> If they tokes I pokes
03:32 < catbeard> what if they shits
03:32 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: will you be in denver or somewhere else?
03:32 < catbeard> do you sits?
03:32 < corn266> that's pits
03:32 < corn266> NinjaStyle this is spur of literally right now
03:32 < catbeard> if they tits that's another thing
03:33 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: well i know denver pretty well if you have questions
03:33 < catbeard> tits are always nice to touch, especially if they're not your own
03:33 < corn266> Can I go there and smoke some pot NinjaStyle
03:33 <+NinjaStyle> yes of course
03:33 < catbeard> most of the pot there will smoke you
03:33 <+NinjaStyle> this isnt russia
03:34 < catbeard> recommend a THCv edible instead
03:34 < precise> catbeard: The shit posts are strong with you, young one.
03:34 < xamithan> If you get an edible please read the dosage and not just eat the entire thing like most people do
03:34 < catbeard> heh
03:35 < catbeard> [45m later] it's not doing anything.. [eats another one].. [45m later]  whoaoaaaaaaa
03:35 <+NinjaStyle> lol
03:35 < precise> catbeard: That's about right
03:35 < xamithan> Thats how liquor shots work with me
03:35 < catbeard> that's how LSD works for most people
03:35 < precise> catbeard: ++
03:36 < precise> catbeard: Most suggest you take one, wait an hour, and see how it feels and take another dose if its aight
03:36 < catbeard> speaking of.. go watch Deadpool 2 on LSD
03:36 < precise> catbeard: nope
03:36 < precise> not gonna do that
03:36 < catbeard> it's fucking amazing
03:36 <+NinjaStyle> catbeard: send me lsd and we will talk
03:36 < catbeard> except when they literally shred the dude in the woodchipper
03:36 < precise> NinjaStyle: I know a guy....
03:36 < rpifan> dont we all
03:36 < rpifan> deadpool is disgusting
03:37 < rpifan> waste of money
03:37 < rpifan> awful
03:37 < precise> rpifan: cryptic1 doesn't, he lives in a cave, isolated.
03:37 < enix> hush rpifan the grownups are talking
03:37 < precise> Damn son
03:37 < precise> Got em
03:37 < catbeard> i'm glad they went into Cable's story, but completely forgot about Bishop
03:37 < rpifan> meh
03:38 < catbeard> and the tie ins with Apocalypse (X-Men: The Animated Series - S1 - Days of Future Past)
03:39 < AustinS> bvierra, yeah cogents trash
03:40 < catbeard> everyone adjust AD for Cogent to least preferred
03:40 < catbeard> let's all use Telia
03:40 < catbeard> or nLayer if you have
03:40 < xamithan> level3
03:41 < AustinS> level3 aka centurylink .. not that that makes their service worse but i cant feel like it'll be the same :S
03:41 <+NinjaStyle> level3 isnt very good tbh
03:42 < rpifan> misspwn_, r u in
03:42 <+NinjaStyle> its a mess of a company
03:42 < catbeard> i will swat u like the fly u r
03:42 < AustinS> eh it used to be, or at least for colo when we had it
03:43 < AustinS> altho ill never forget the one time i did a speedtest while plugged into 2Gbps line and then it... did something weird and fucking dropped everything plugged into the same switch i was on
03:43 < AustinS> caused a lot of alarms doing that lol
03:43 < AustinS> (very short, few seconds but still..)  was still worth
03:43 < xamithan> Overloaded the switch
03:44 < AustinS> yeah something.. we had pushed that amount before, but not in that quick of a burst on one port im sure. it startled it
03:46 < AustinS> wasn't a shitty switch or anything by any means either.  and never was able to reproduce
03:46 < catbeard> probably tripped storm control or something
03:47 < AustinS> lol prob. definitely don't miss having to go to the datacenter though / dealing with all physical servers
03:49 < catbeard> had the same deal but with remote GRE ddos scrubbing
03:49 < catbeard> all of a sudden 20Gbit/s speed test, didn't inform GRE tunnel provider first
03:49 < catbeard> queue emails going WTF
03:49 < AustinS> lol
03:49 < AustinS> "just having fun plz ignore"
03:50 < catbeard> "working on your invoice shortly"
03:50 < genr8_> if you make them sneeze, they bill you for it
03:51 < catbeard> more like a hiccup that turned into a fart
03:53 < catbeard> i have a dig bick
03:53 < catbeard> you that read wrong
03:53 < catbeard> also the for above
03:53 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mixavOTxE4
03:54 < misspwn_> rpifan, yeah i brought up trying to do stuff in my downtime and i was told that i can go home if it's that dead
03:55 < misspwn_> so no automation shit on the fly
03:55 < rpifan> hmm
03:55 < rpifan> r u getting paid if u go home
03:55 < misspwn_> infact an email blast went out about that
03:55 < misspwn_> no
03:55 < AustinS> catbeard, no, no i didn't
03:55 < AustinS> i read it exactly how i wanted :*
03:55 < catbeard> how did u wanted my dig bick
03:56 < misspwn_> "how did you want it? on a fucking platter with some garnish
03:56 < AustinS> right in butt the course of.  (see im good at this too!!   /s)
03:56 < catbeard> btw you see where one could confuse you for Stone Cold
03:56 < catbeard> AustinS connecting from .wwe.com
03:56 < AustinS> ya i know i get random emails for him frequently tbh
03:56 < catbeard> HEH
03:57 < catbeard> i hope your last name is Steve
03:57 < AustinS> cause i setup austin@wwe.com so it was easier for me.
03:57 < catbeard> so you can be Austin Steve
03:57 < AustinS> lol no but thatd be great
03:57 < rpifan> boy
03:57 < rpifan> that sounds bad
03:57 < catbeard> and Steve can be Steven Austin
03:57 < rpifan> misspwn_, i think u can do a lot better
03:57 < rpifan> u r one smart cookie
03:57 < catbeard> or Steve w/e
03:57 < AustinS> im the 1 true austin here
03:57 < catbeard> better than sa@wwe.com
03:58 < misspwn_> rpifan, not worried about it, i know my boundaries and when to push them
03:58 < misspwn_> i don't feel that restricted and i've only been there since feburary so i'm not trying to take over yet
03:58 < catbeard> rq what's Stephanie McMahon's email
03:58 < catbeard> ahem
03:58 < AustinS> i usually connect on here from a diff domain but i unplugged the cable modem i used to connect directly to vs using this
03:59 < AustinS> which is still obv if you try hard enough to figure it out, MillerBoss always called me out :(
03:59 < AustinS> and lmao
03:59 < binaryhermit> Enough is enough. I have had it with this monkey-fighting subtropical storm in this monday-to-friday Chicago area
03:59 < AustinS> i should change the PTR on this IP i use to something else fun
03:59 < AustinS> one of the 987417963474124321 domains we have
03:59 < catbeard> i was about to buy local.host
03:59 < AustinS> theres bound to be something good in there
03:59 < MillerBoss> SORRY
03:59 < AustinS> MillerBoss ITS OK <3
03:59 < catbeard> if it weren't $20k
04:00 < rpifan> well alright
04:00 < MillerBoss> :)
04:00 < rpifan> ive already taken over my team basically
04:00 < rpifan> ive become number 2
04:00 < misspwn_> naice
04:00 < misspwn_> you're gona leave em high and dry, good job
04:00 < catbeard> so i'm on the dev team, but also i'm the only person on dev team
04:00 < catbeard> and i'm on engineering team, but not the only eng
04:01 < misspwn_> are you engineering a bunch of catbeard army's?
04:01 < AustinS> ok i exaggerated i only know if 2270 domains i could use unfortunately a lot are trash
04:01 < catbeard> they want me to put dev above engineering, but they have me on support, sales, billing, accounting, provisiong
04:01 < AustinS> omg sounds like my life minus the $ side
04:01 < catbeard> ya clustered dns and vDNS replication was one of my proj
04:01 < catbeard> my babehs
04:02 < AustinS> oh, so yea last night, i was shittnig on that cisco switch earlier for crashing on me or w/e
04:02 < AustinS> but a pipe burst here and poured water onto a switch on a floor here lmao
04:02 < catbeard> runs nais and full cloudflare and BGP DDoS scrubbing protection
04:02 < AustinS> and only ONE of the 8 blades in it went out.   how???
04:02 < catbeard> ya we have raised floors
04:02 < catbeard> so floods just really wet a shoe make
04:02 < AustinS> oh we do too, it just poured from the ceiling straight onto it. it conveniently came straight above where each floors IT closets are just for the older equipment lol
04:03 < rpifan> i will leave them high and dry
04:03 < catbeard> ah ya ceilings
04:03 < rpifan> thats only right
04:03 < AustinS> yea not flooded, just .. rained on :)
04:03 < rpifan> catbeard, dev some apps for me
04:03 < rpifan> ill pay u in kibble
04:03 < AustinS> but yeah just one 48 port blade went out.. super shocked
04:03 < AustinS> resilient bastards
04:03 < catbeard> AustinS: stacked?
04:04 < catbeard> or like shelf replication, assume you mean power out, though could have also meant network out if the networking equipment powerfailed, and you had redundant PDU
04:04 < rpifan> why do these damned youtube kid
04:04 < AustinS> umm i honestly dont know the setup in that closet cause its old equipment and i dont do that shit (not actually in the official IT group) . cisco 6509e chassis
04:04 < rpifan> dub over
04:05 < rpifan> great informercials
04:05 < rpifan> i wanna watch it
04:05 < catbeard> noice
04:05 < catbeard> ok well do you have backups
04:05 < AustinS> and no everything stayed on lmao, just the blade went bad/disappeared, didnt see the actual alert, but everything stayed up
04:05 < AustinS> yeah theres plenty laying around
04:05 < catbeard> AustinS: probably means it failed over in time before the monitoring checked
04:05 < catbeard> AustinS: has it been tested
04:05 < AustinS> but definitely was panic mode last night .. never something i planned for
04:05 < AustinS> was literally just walking down a hallway and i hear water hitting the floor behind a door, look at door labels "ELECTRIC ROOM"  "IT CLOSET"
04:06 < catbeard> "fack"
04:06 < AustinS> no idea, they just swapped it out with an empty one i pointed them to on ours
04:06 < AustinS> and actually i dont think we care to test it, theyre all getting trashed soon
04:06 < AustinS> thank god
04:06 < catbeard> so we're using this thing with mariadb 10.2 in a multi-master replication setup
04:07 < AustinS> networks been constantly edging on capacity on and off, these things are old
04:07 < catbeard> with signal replication manager
04:07 < catbeard> it's showing a 'recently resynced slave' as an RO master, no idea why it's ro, now it's marked the previous master as failed
04:08 < catbeard> @@gtid_slave_pos was updated correctly
04:08 < catbeard> Seconds_behind_master: 0
04:08 < AustinS> you ever play with galera w/ mysql? been good to me except when everything does some weird shit and causes every single node to just crash/restart at the same time (and then fail). always fun
04:08 < AustinS> only happened 2 times in 2 years but.. caused me to rethink a lot of shit
04:08 < catbeard> we don't use galera anymore in favor of MariaDB with GTID cluster
04:08 < catbeard> way faster
04:09 < AustinS> iii should prolly do that. I honestly just havent looked into it, but I probably will now
04:09 < catbeard> also mariabackup and qpress ftw
04:09 < catbeard> from percona repo
04:09 < AustinS> especially since i actually have mariadb on my dev machine instead of mysqlserver itself
04:09 < AustinS> not that id be worried about them not being compatible
04:10 < AustinS> i saw AWS announced that Aurora RDS MySQL (but only 5.6) feature a few weeks ago
04:10 < catbeard> i need to get a private cloud with elasticsearch HA set up
04:10 < AustinS> to be able to roll back binary log to a specific ponit in a matter of seconds
04:10 < AustinS> wanted to try but i dont use 5.6, or RDS for anything right now. but sounded cool
04:10 < catbeard> when i tried aurora for a wp site a few years ago
04:11 < catbeard> got minimally better results
04:11 < catbeard> better than mysql 5.1 anyway
04:11 < AustinS> aurora + years ago?  how long has it been around?! one of those "shit getting old fast" moments
04:11 < catbeard> aurora has been around for some years
04:11 < catbeard> not sure how many
04:12 < AustinS> oh i take that back, had MySQL RDS running, got hammered, and tested swapping it out with the Aurora one and it actually performed CONSIDERABLY better under load
04:12 < AustinS> they've definitely constantly been improving it, but I don't stay on top of that..
04:12 < catbeard> maybe, but a properly tuned mariadb sings all day
04:12 < catbeard> lots of sysctl and tmpfs but meh
04:13 < rpifan> misspwn_, i forget what ur title / position is
04:13 < AustinS> sysctl/tmpfs for what in re to tuned? i guess it also completely depends what the purpose of db is
04:14 < catbeard> tmpdir mostly
04:14 < catbeard> and configure buffers and innodb/myisam/ariadb options
04:14 < misspwn_> rpifan, like all titles mine is pretty inflated
04:14 < misspwn_> i'm an engineer
04:14 < AustinS> oh one thing that def drove me crazy about galera was the fact that auto increment jumps the # of nodes each time, i wasnt paying attention at first until I realized they were super high one day.. forgot we had added a bunch of nodes
04:14 < rpifan> oh nice
04:14 < rpifan> do u manage ppl
04:15 < AustinS> i never noticed it was jumping 2 or 3,but when it was skipping like 9 at a time i thought i broke some shit and had a mini heart attack
04:15 < misspwn_> manage who?
04:15 <+NinjaStyle> What do you engineer?
04:15 < rpifan> like r u amanager
04:15 < rpifan> do u have ppl report to u
04:17 < AustinS> i definitely disliked being forced into trying to oversee/manage people, esp since I wasnt even the official manager so dont get paid for it while the actual manager just .. doesnt help w/ that lol. i slowly slid away from that tho
04:17 < AustinS> if someone's good at a task, don't make them stop doing it to manage others.. i never understood that mentality (unless they want to of course)
04:18 <+NinjaStyle> I think sometimes it's good from a mentorship perspective
04:18 < catbeard> "if you're so good at it, you should teach someone because bus factor"
04:18 < AustinS> oh i totally dont mind sitting with them and stuff like that
04:18 < AustinS> but like.. why are they coming to me with petty problems lol. (and it wasnt cause like "oh i trust you more") its literally the higher higher up was like yea hes ur manager.
04:19 < AustinS> buuut I'm not :) it was short lived at least.. its definitely hard to find people. (i also do more programming than system stuff, but its literally a giant mixed bag nowadays)
04:20 < catbeard> i'm the everything perl/bash guy, though i'm mostly on php and python
04:20 < AustinS> ^ me. minus perl
04:20 < AustinS> idk the last time I touched perl was
04:21 <+NinjaStyle> 1974
04:21 < AustinS> 4179
04:21 < xe0n> perl necklace
04:21 < AustinS> ill give u the perls.
04:27 < misspwn_> hhahaaha rpifan no one reports to me
04:27 < misspwn_> i dont know why you would think that
04:29 < rpifan> im just trying to get a feel of ur position
04:30 < misspwn_> i'm probably the same as you
04:32 < rpifan> oh?
04:33 < xe0n> i have direct reports
04:34 < AustinS> im sorry
04:34 < misspwn_> no need to be sorry, i sure as hell don't want to manage anyone
04:34 < rpifan> who reporst to u xe0n
04:34 < AustinS> oh
04:34 < AustinS> the sorry was for xe0n lol P
04:34 < AustinS> :P*
04:34 < xamithan> plebs
04:40 < rpifan> ive talked to everyone in the company several levels on top of me
04:40 < xe0n> rpifan: my team
04:40 < xe0n> sysadmisn
04:40 < rpifan> ive had more direct interaction with them then my boss it seems
04:40 < rpifan> the only person i havent annoyed enough yet is the cto
04:40 < misspwn_> rpifan, yeah so do i, i can go into the CEO's office whenever i need to
04:41 < rpifan> we dont have offices
04:41 < rpifan> its all open
04:41 < misspwn_> i try to avoid that unless i absolutely need to because he has shit to do
04:41 < rpifan> damn fb is reading my mind
04:41 < rpifan> im talking about visiting orlando for a night
04:41 < rpifan> and boom ads for gay clubs in orlando
04:42 < misspwn_> better delete fb
04:42 < rpifan> im trying too
04:46 < AustinS> its tracked your location hitting up every boy bar there ;O that and the implant that just steals your thoughts too
04:47 < rpifan> im sure it does
04:47 < rpifan> so speaking of this im hitching a ride with some random women from tampa to bonnaroo
04:47 < rpifan> so if u hear of a murdered comptuer nerd
04:47 < rpifan> yeaa.
04:47 < genr8_> grats
04:48 < genr8_> nah u fine
04:48 < misspwn_> just say girlfriend a lot and be sassy
04:48 < genr8_> ppl are so nice
04:48 < rpifan> lol
04:48 < precise> genr8_: No they arent
04:48 < rpifan> im always sassy
04:48 < precise> People are horrible
04:48 < rpifan> im also sad
04:48 < precise> genr8_: Just look at cryptic1
04:48 < precise> Prime example
04:48 < genr8_> not regular people, bonnaroo people
04:48 < misspwn_> i wouldn't murder you tho
04:48 < rpifan> xe0n, tell me more about your team. Ive dealt very little with the devs but there special
04:49 < precise> genr8_: Oh
04:49 < precise> genr8_: That's an exception
04:50 < xe0n> i dont have devs, just 3 sys admins, and a helpdesk team which i let one of the guys manage BAU tasks
04:50 < rpifan> whats BAU
04:50 < xe0n> business as usual
04:50 < xe0n> day to day stuff
04:50 < rpifan> ah
04:50 < misspwn_> business in the front party in the back BAU MULLET
04:50 < rpifan> do most sys admins know what a PFY is
04:50 < xamithan> My boss calls that job "everyones bitch"
04:51 < rpifan> apparenrly i had a slack chat with the senior sysadmin
04:51 < misspwn_> we got an intern that is basically going to do the stuff we don't want to do and i feel bad
04:51 < rpifan> like i talk to all these ppl but idk who they are or what they do
04:51 < vader-> Any of you have Version FiOS 1gbit internet?
04:51 < xe0n> misspwn_: we have that, she finishes today after a couple of months lol
04:51 < vader-> Verizon
04:51 < misspwn_> xe0n, they are literally only having him do partial parts of our pc builds
04:52 < misspwn_> or various grunt work
04:52 < xe0n> misspwn_: she's imaging tablets atm
04:52 < rpifan> sounds fun
04:52 < rpifan> more engaging them y shit
04:52 < misspwn_> granted it's stuff i certainly don't want to be doing
04:56 < aName> Can someone link the OLD windows USB media creation tool?
04:56 < aName> The new one wants to pull down an image and I'm trying to use my own
04:56 < genr8_> just burn it to a USB disk then
04:56 < aName> Right, but they had a tool for this that ticks all the right boxes to make it play nice.
04:57 < xe0n> use MDT to build an offline usb
04:57 < genr8_> not sure what you're thinking of
04:57 < aName> They had a 'USB/DVD media creation tool'
04:57 < aName> It made everything nice and simple. Select image, select drive, go
04:58  * aName shrugs
04:58 < genr8_> thats all that any program does anyway
04:58 < genr8_> ISO files just get written to usb
04:58 < genr8_> use Win32DiskImager or whatever its called
04:58 < genr8_> i forget what people like these days
04:58 < aName> I used etcher and was going to try rufus next
04:59 < aName> I also have unetbootin
04:59 < aName> Anyway, I found it
04:59 < aName> I had the name wrong and lucky me they have a very similar tool with a very similar name.
04:59 < xe0n> aName: the USB tool is for ISOs, I have it..
05:00 < genr8_> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool#installation
05:00 < aName> genr8_: Thanks.
05:04 < genr8_> also
05:04 < genr8_> Is it true that having a Windows 10 Media Creator tool from prior versions will download prior ISO's ?
05:04 < MikeSpears> Rufus is dope
05:05 < genr8_> i kinda wanna download a copy of an old build
05:16 < m4221> NinjaStyle: hey
05:16 < jay-ros> sup people
05:16 < rpifan> hi
05:17 < jay-ros> just to let everyone know, I've recently updated my privacy policy.
05:17 < jay-ros> ...peer pressure.
05:17 < rpifan> good
05:17 < misspwn_> does that mean mandatory chip implants?
05:17 < misspwn_> hey boss, when are we going to have tracksuit tuesdays?
05:18 < jay-ros> tracksuit tuesdays have been postponed until our temp receptionist has left the office
05:18 < jay-ros> ...she's smoking hot and I don't want any embarrassing situations to deal with
05:18 < misspwn_> ducttape and tear away tracksuits for all
05:19 < jay-ros> hollywood tape!
05:19 < misspwn_> carroll doesn't want you to know that one simple trick
05:19 <+kbni> rpifan: I t hink a sysadmin who doesn't know what a PFY is is the PFY
05:19 < rpifan> good
05:20 < rpifan> ill make that joke with the sysadmin
05:20 < rpifan> if he needs a pfy ill say coneact me
05:22 < jay-ros> So I learned a few things over the last couple days on NTP servers
05:22 <@Nostalg14c> Mornin/evening/whatever it is.
05:22 < jay-ros> 1) if you did a shit job of configuring everything the first time round, you're going to have a crappy time fixing it the second time
05:22 < jay-ros> 2) if your domain controller can't contact 0.au.pool.ntp.org,0x1 then it's going to go to the cmos
05:23 < jay-ros> 3) if it's a hyper-v server, it'll look for the virtual cmos before looking for the actual cmos
05:23 < AustinS> brb bb's
05:25 < jay-ros> 4) the fuckhead moron who realised this the first time forced two GPOs, an internal server he incorrectly spelt in the registry hack, and two layers of 'workarounds' which has now created what could be described as 'worrying about cleaning up this doner kebab vomit when I wake up in the morning because I've had too much sambuca tongiht'
05:33 < rpifan> sambuca on fire is tasty
05:38 < jaelae> the heck
05:38 < jaelae> my home internet is again down to 1Mbps
05:38 < jaelae> what in the world is going on
05:40 <+NinjaStyle> :o
05:40 < rpifan> yall whats the sd card for 4k video
05:40 < rpifan> that your supposed to get
05:41 < rpifan> theres some speedo r something
05:51 < jay-ros> rpifan - not sure, but I'm guessing it'll be called "XC MEGA CLASS C III GOLD" or something similar
05:51 < jay-ros> ooh, or 'ultra high speed'
05:51 < rpifan> lol
05:52 < jay-ros> "SanDisk Extreme SDXC 128gb Class 10 UHS U3 Memory Card"
05:52 < rpifan> the damns are damn confisungo
05:52 < jay-ros> there ya go... Extreme ultra high speed U 3
05:53 < rpifan> https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MicroSDXC-Adapter-MB-ME64GA-AM/dp/B06XX29S9Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1527738756&sr=8-3&keywords=64gb+micro+sd+card+uhs-3
05:53 < jay-ros> class 10
05:53 < rpifan> i was gonna go for 128 but thats too much money
05:53 < jay-ros> the mega is probably even more expensive
05:54 < rpifan> whats the difference
05:54 < jay-ros> about 5mb/sec I would guess
05:55 < rpifan> hmm
05:55 < rpifan> well my sony action cam can shoot in that pro format
05:55 < rpifan> that they have
05:56 < genr8_> i wonder what the difference between EVO, evo select and evo plus is
05:56 < rpifan> xavc
05:57 < rpifan> idk what xavc does
05:57 < rpifan> but it needs a special sd card to run
05:57 < jay-ros> genr8_ probably about 1mbit/sec :P
06:00 < rpifan> https://www.sony.com/electronics/actioncam/fdr-x3000-body-kit
06:30 < vader-> Any of you guys have Verizon's 1Gbit FIOS Service?
06:44 < rootsudo> Why the fuck did I watch the shawshank redemption for 3 hours
06:51 < MadCamel> because it's a good movie?
07:12 <@Nostalg14c> anyone manage sccm
07:20 < ibttis> hello can someone recommend good courses or books to learn all the aspects of system administration?
07:28 < ThatOneRoadie> Google.
07:28 < ThatOneRoadie> There are people who have been working in systems admin for 50+ years who don't know all the aspects
07:28 < ThatOneRoadie> start with a small topic
07:28 < ThatOneRoadie> like MCSA
07:28 <+NinjaStyle> ibttis: I know it's unpopular but cert exam books can teach you a lot
07:30 < togen> ibttis: break all the things!
07:34 <@Nostalg14c> Figure out what area of sysadmin you want to get into first.
07:36 < ibttis> any good courses on udemy or simmilar site?
07:38 < MadCamel> google and a good healthy dose of screwing around and breaking things then learn how to fix what you broke.
07:45 < ibttis> ok thanks for your suggestions guys
07:49 < rootsudo> ibttis there is an excellent book
07:49 < rootsudo> https://www.amazon.com/Practice-System-Network-Administration-Enterprise/dp/0321919165/
07:49 < rootsudo> also vol2 is good
07:49 < rootsudo> but vol 1 is great 800 pages of
07:49 < rootsudo> "you don't know this, good luck buddy"
07:51 < ivanux> Good Morning everyone :) [7:51 here]
07:51 < rootsudo> 2am here fuck
08:39 < plop> morning
08:40 <+NinjaStyle> hi
08:40 < plop> sub NinjaStyle
08:40 <+NinjaStyle> chillin like a chilean
08:40 < plop> nice
09:10 <+NinjaStyle> just watched the 2016 ghostbusters
09:10 <+NinjaStyle> bad
09:10 <+NinjaStyle> like way worse than expected
09:10 < xe0n> the original is a classic
09:11 < xe0n> the new one is garbage.
09:12 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah the whole thing lacked chemistry and writing
09:12 <+NinjaStyle> Felt like poor improv
09:32 <+ktechmidas> there go pretty much all of my daily builds... pypi is down (https://pypi.org/packages)
09:32 <+ktechmidas> stupid build system tried to go live regardless... and broke everything
09:33 < vader-> man this is huge
09:33 < vader-> https://myignite.microsoft.com/sessions/54705
09:34 < vader-> ive been waiting for this feature for a few years
09:40 <@Nostalg14c> bout time
09:40 <@Nostalg14c> fking retarded
09:42 < vader-> well after watching the video it was probably a shit ton of work
10:01 < GrandpaRick> hey
10:02 < GrandpaRick> hey popzi
10:13 < jumi> morning
10:14 < GrandpaRick> good morning
10:58 < Hatsjoe> Morning
11:00 < humpaxx> G´day m´friends
11:11 < Tzunamii> Morning
11:30 < Popzi> Morning morning, Hey GrandpaRick, Morning, Good day, Hello all
11:36 <+ihre> remember kids, dont push credentials to git
11:38 < varesa> git rm passwords && git commit -m 'remove passwords' && git push origin master && echo "safe"
11:40 < humpaxx> ihre: Its say easier if you use the same creds everywhere, then you can just search&remove before pushing to git
11:40 < humpaxx> s/say/way
11:41 < humpaxx> Or just store the password in plaintext in the git folder and add the file to .gitignore :p
11:44 <+ihre> or use vault
11:44 <+ihre> :3
11:48  * varesa tries to install vault and wonder why it won't listen on any port
11:50 < Hatsjoe> ihre: you pushed creds to git? :P
11:51 <+ihre> Hatsjoe: hahaha, no, not me, one of the other guys i told you about :p
11:57 < varesa> overseas dev: "Please help us optimize AWS costs. Our simple project is generating a too big bill"
11:57 < varesa> turns out that every region was full of crypto-miners and they had their access key in git (apparently public as well)...
11:58 < genr8_> facepalm
11:58 <+ihre> some person doing a tech assignment at the comp i work for mirrored his entire assignment and pushed it to his own public github acc, with creds
11:58 <+ihre> raked up a ~100k bill
11:58 <+ihre> everything was refunded though
12:04 < Hatsjoe> hehehehehe
12:04 < Hatsjoe> lucky bastard
12:05 < sadbox> varesa: I'm surprised that github doesn't forcibly block commits that contain AWS creds at this point
12:06 < varesa> I also wonder how many of these still work: https://github.com/search?q=remove+access+key&type=Commits
12:07 < varesa> like if we assume that 50% of those contain AWS keys and 0.1% of people don't revoke/change the credentials when they "remove" them
12:08 < varesa> that's still >200 working keys
12:14 < FenJai_> Morning peeps
12:14 < MrLemur> Morning FenJai_
12:15 < FenJai_> Can anyone recommend a good set of headphones with a mic that its kind of discrete ?
12:21 < Hunterkll> FenJai, 'kind of discrete' ?
12:21 < Hunterkll> like, separate microphone?
12:21 < rhqq> morningz
12:21 < rhqq> Hunterkll: do you ever sleep?
12:21 < Hunterkll> yes
12:21 < Hunterkll> from about 6:30pm to 5am
12:22 < Hunterkll> :D
12:22 < rhqq> recently whenever i look into this channel you're talking
12:22 < rhqq> ;p
12:22 < Hunterkll> i've got an alarm set for whenever you're awake
12:22 < rhqq> thats creepy ;p
12:23  * Hunterkll restarts the SQL server for a massive SCCM deployment
12:23 < Hunterkll> woeeee
12:23 < rhqq> let the bodies hit the floor
12:41 < FenJai> Hunterkll, I mean something that itsnt obvious its a mic. Something I could wear on the bus
12:42 < Hunterkll> FenJai, ah, you men discreet :p
12:42 < FenJai> Oh right. I never knew they were different
12:45 < MrLemur> FenJai, Bose SoundTrue are alright with an inline mic
12:46 < Hunterkll> LOL
12:46 < Hunterkll> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/8ndo2b/college_admissions_officers_of_reddit_what_is_the/
12:46 < Hunterkll> anyone wanna go hunting for peasants?
12:50 <+ihre> hmm, i guess next time i'll add those bowling strikes to my resume as well, and include some counter-strike screenshots
12:51 <+ihre> 'we won 16-0 on dust2 vs l33t k1ll3rs"
12:53 < Hunterkll> ihre, I like the tuba one
12:55 <+ihre> minimum effort, maximum effect
13:26 < Bru-> morn
13:26 < Bru-> aww yiss
13:26 < Bru-> leftover smoked pork tenderloin and fried eggs
13:26 < Bru-> runny yolk
13:26 < Bru-> life is good
13:36 < humpaxx> So im going on a 4wk vacation in a few weeks and i need a way to let my standin restart some linux servers/services if needed
13:37 < humpaxx> How do i make it as easy as possible? he has limited linux experience
13:38 < humpaxx> SSH keys and bash scripts?
13:38 < rhqq> and ELI5 documentation
13:38 < rhqq> with 5 steps for each thing max
13:38 < humpaxx> >Documentation
13:38 < humpaxx> Ain´t nobody got time for that
13:38 < humpaxx> (j/k)
13:38 <+ihre> are you familiar with ansible?
13:39 < Hunterkll> HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
13:39 < Hunterkll> history repeats itself
13:39 < Hunterkll> microsoft is more valuble tahn google again
13:39 < Bru-> humpaxx: tell him "shutdown -r now" is all he needs to know
13:39 < Bru-> ;)
13:40 < humpaxx> Bru-: Yeah but apache2 aways asks for the crt key to start so if he reboots a webserver he´l have to restart apache and type in the password there
13:40 < Bru-> "shutdown -r now"
13:40 < humpaxx> And for whatever reason apache sometimes doesn´t understand and you have to try again
13:40 < Bru-> nah im just being silly humpaxx
13:40 < Bru-> im a linux newb myself
13:41 < humpaxx> You´re not wrong tho :p
13:41 < Bru-> yeah im slowly learning the oddities of linux
13:41 < Bru-> in the past month since ive installed though
13:41 < Bru-> i love it
13:41 < Bru-> slapped ubuntu server on a home box
13:41 < humpaxx> Terminal is for hackers
13:41 < Bru-> resisting the gui
13:42 < Bru-> so far so good
13:42 < humpaxx> and cli is for nerds
13:42 < Bru-> lol
13:42 < Bru-> i like it better than powershell
13:42 < rhqq> hi Bru-
13:42 < rhqq> ;p
13:42 < Bru-> yo rhqq !
13:42 < rhqq> howdy
13:42 <+ihre> humpaxx: why does the cert have a passphrase? sounds like a pain in the ass O_o
13:43 < Bru-> brb
13:43 < Bru-> finished breakfast
13:43 < humpaxx> the world needs more bootstrap and reactive web frontends for everything
13:43 < Bru-> gotta go to office
13:43 < rhqq> ihre: because it's tru security
13:43 < humpaxx> ihre: idk i was told not to remove it >.>
13:43 < rhqq> remove it silently...
13:44 < rhqq> i mean really, sharing it with random people is even worse idea than not having it
13:44 <+ihre> or https://serverfault.com/a/71088 :p
13:45 < humpaxx> Maybe i should just remove it
13:46 < rhqq> yeah, at least temporarily
13:46 < humpaxx> the person who told me to keep it doesn´t even know why theres a passphrase for it
13:46 < rhqq> xD
13:46 < rhqq> yeah
13:46 < humpaxx> and as long as the key is only readable by root its a non issue
13:46 <+ihre> because of a legacy security guru who worked at your company :p
13:47 < humpaxx> s/legacy security guru/former <whoever is the highest boss> at <store that sells tech stuff>
13:48 <+ihre> basically the same thing :P
13:50 < humpaxx> at least a legacy security guru would know why there´s a passphrase on the cert
13:50 < humpaxx> But idc
13:51 < humpaxx> as long as im not getting calls while im on vacation
13:51 <+ihre> 'thats how we did things back in '96'
13:53 < rhqq> humpaxx: make sure you've your phone charged and in range ;p
13:54 < rhqq> you'll have like shit ton of calls around 2/3 of the vacation
14:01 < SynMonger> calls... on vacation? What is this 'calls on vacation' of which you speak?
14:02 < rhqq> thats what you get for being one man army in a small company
14:04 <@cryptic1> morning
14:04 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
14:04 < plop> what rhqq said
14:04 <@cryptic1> D:
14:05 < SynMonger> I did in fact just get back to work from being at home, asleep.
14:16 < rhqq> ok, guys. quick question, because im missing something obvious. remote server, 2 users. both have .ssh/authorized_keys with my pubkey
14:16 < rhqq> i can login to one with my key but not to the other
14:17 < Nightcinder> https://www.anandtech.com/show/12828/intel-launches-optane-dimms-up-to-512gb-apache-pass-is-here
14:17 < Nightcinder> yes pls
14:18 < rhqq> nice
14:21 <+giant_it_burrit> is one root
14:21 < rhqq> no
14:21 < rhqq> two regular users
14:22 <+giant_it_burrit> and you are logging int he same way just with a diff username
14:22 < rhqq> ssh -v shows that one sends the key and gets debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg rsa-sha2-512 blen 535, other skips to next auth method
14:22 < varesa> rhqq: wrong permissions for .ssh or .ssh/authorized_keys?
14:22 < rhqq> yes, user@ user2@
14:22 < rhqq> authorized_keys can be 644
14:23 < Bru-> dayuum
14:23 < rhqq> checked permissions
14:24 < rhqq> they're ok
14:24 < varesa> check server logs? /var/log/secure or something
14:24 <+giant_it_burrit> check /var/log/auth
14:24 < rhqq> auth.log is ok
14:24 < rhqq> i mean nothing obvious
14:33 < asimon> Hi there! I'm asimon, and I'm here to help!
14:35 < humpaxx> Hello asimon, make me a sandwich :)
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
14:45 < asimon> humpaxx: Let me see what I can find on the web for "Hellow asimon make me a sandwich :)"
14:46 <@cryptic1> probably not much
14:46 < humpaxx> Yo McDonaldsWiFi
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> ayyyy
14:47 < asimon> humpaxx: I found this on the web. Is this what you're looking for? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUv1ttINlWo
14:47 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
14:48 < rhqq> wtf, i have no idea why one user is loggable while other is not :/
14:48 <@cryptic1> D:
14:53 < arlion> Good Morning
14:53 < asimon> Morning friend
14:56 < Markdown1_> hmm the Sun is not out yet
14:56 < Markdown1_> ah wrong channel
14:56 < arlion> welp, email is down.
14:56 < arlion> network is down
14:57 < arlion> I can't do my job
14:57 < arlion> hop skip dooo daaa dooo daa
14:57 < Markdown1_> Net Neutrality FTW
15:10 < jaelae> spend 3 hours fixing monitoring
15:10 < jaelae> i love life
15:11 < humpaxx> jaelae: fixing it after it broke or setting it up?
15:12 < humpaxx> I kinda enjoy tinkering with icinga2
15:12 < jaelae> it was setup but i noticed it wasnt working right
15:12 < jaelae> i use logicmonitor
15:12 < bmurt> you should've been monitoring your monitorin
15:12 < bmurt> monitoring*
15:13 < jaelae> yea thats the secret
15:14 < jaelae> i mean it works for our vms but something is funky for esxi hosts
15:14 < corn266> So who's showing me around denver this weekend
15:14 < humpaxx> Yeah but who monitors the monitor who monitors the monitoring?
15:15 < corn266> awe
15:17 < jaelae> the monitoring auditors
15:17 < jaelae> that kinda happens here for some things. I have some scripted AV deployments that is mostly automated and i get alerts if something isnt working. and infosec gets alerts if im not fixing alerts
15:19 < corn266> "scan the copy" <blinking light> "okay that tells me nothing, maybe download the manual" <self extracting archive> "okay wtf canon"
15:22 < jaelae> printers are the devil!
15:22 < jaelae> i have a real nice printer that mostly works except when it doesn't
15:22 < corn266> oh fuck day 3 of no cigs has kicked in
15:23 < jaelae> you don't need that stuff
15:25 < corn266> yea but I'm gonna be on edge all day
15:26 < corn266> <Installing manual> It's a fucking pdf just display the fucking thing
15:29 < insecurity> ok
15:30 < int0x1C8> u vape brah?
15:30 < insecurity> ok
15:30 < corn266> about to go outside to hit this 0mg nicotine vape yea
15:31 < MrLemur> I gave up vaping in January after I was getting serious chest pains
15:31 < Markdown1_> Vape is Unhealthy AF
15:32 < Markdown1_> its like Butter vs Margarine all over again
15:34 < int0x1C8> better than smoking tbf
15:35 < corn266> ^^
15:35 < SynMonger> inhaling the vapors from liquids of unknown origin might be bad for you? I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you
15:36 < int0x1C8> unknown liquids? its a mix of vegetable glycerins, propylene glycol and a nicotine tincture
15:37 < corn266> toubleshooting tips for this scanner "turn it off and on again" are you fucking kidding me
15:37 < corn266> yea but what if those vegetable glycerins came from beets or onions
15:38 < int0x1C8> and?
15:39 < corn266> those are nasty
15:40 < int0x1C8> I doubt they use beets or whatever
15:40 < DomLS3> beets by dre
15:40 < int0x1C8> probably corn or soy
15:40 < int0x1C8> wait is soy a vegetable?
15:40 < MrLemur> It's not so much the liquid as the metal in the coils etc.
15:41 < int0x1C8> copper?
15:41 < md5sumo> good morning folks
15:42 < int0x1C8> as long as you're not cranking up the coils so much you get flash vaporization the metal of the coils is irrelevant
15:42 < MrLemur> I can't remember the study I was reading.
15:43 < int0x1C8> my vape goes all the way to 265 watts, which is retarded
15:43 < int0x1C8> that's where you see the dense vape clouds from like half a second of inhaling
15:43 < khelpw> On the plus side, if you're ever stuck in the woods you can use it to start a fire
15:43 < MrLemur> https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/ehp2175/
15:43 < int0x1C8> I keep mine to 50-65 W
15:43 < MrLemur> Though I doubt it applies to every type of mod available
15:44 < Hatter> excuse me I'm a little late this morning
15:46 < Markdown1_> LOL I actually was trying out the Beats Studio 3 that a friend of mine uses, it sounds as good as my sony mdr1000x, they apparently improved a lot, but still not gonna buy
15:46 < khelpw> plsno
15:46 < khelpw> MDRs are way better
15:46 < Markdown1_> IDK it depends on the Genre I guess
15:47 < insecurity> did you guys start vaping to quit smoking?
15:47 < ebol4> i never started vaping or smoking because i'm not a sinner
15:47 < Markdown1_> ^
15:48 < MrLemur> Smoking/vaping is exclusively for sinners.
15:48 < MrLemur> I started to stop smoking, but then found myself vaping more than I was smoking.
15:48 < Markdown1_> I also tried Sennheiser PXC550 and what was that from Bose QC35? they are pretty good too
15:49 < corn266> MrLemur: those are inferior level canthol coils and shouldn't be used for vaping
15:51 < cantibot> rick james?
15:51 < cantibot> 33 chains?
15:51 < humpaxx> 2 Chainz?
15:51 < Markdown1_> 2 Pac
15:51 < cantibot> shaggy2dope?
15:51 < humpaxx> 2Pac is alive
15:52 < MrLemur> corn266: I used stainless steel coils, but it didn't help myself
15:52 < Markdown1_> Biggie > 2 Pac
15:52 < cantibot> ooof
15:52 < Markdown1_> Post Malone is the best rapper of all time
15:52 < MrLemur> Anyone have thoughts on the Cowin E7 phones?
15:52  * cantibot holler if you hear me tho
15:52 < Markdown1_> forgot the "/s"
15:53 < Markdown1_> MrLemur what kinda phone is that?
15:53 < khelpw> Markdown1_: QC35 have two things going for them - Quiet, and comfort. They do ANC better than pretty much anyone else, and the fuckers are comfortable. Durable? no. Comfortable? Deffo
15:53 < Markdown1_> MrLemur some Chinese malware infected spyware?
15:53 < khelpw> For the price of Beats, there are better cans, no matter what kind of music you like.
15:54 < Markdown1_> khelpw yep I actually got the Sony ones over Sennheiser because of their durability TBH
15:54 < khelpw> Don't blame you. There's a reason my sennys live at home at my desk
15:54 < humpaxx> Are they better than the Beyerdynamics 990Pro ones?
15:54 < Markdown1_> Sony ones may not be the best looking but they are bang for the buck
15:54 < khelpw> on the go, I use Etymotic Er4xrs
15:54 < Hatter> what the heck man, these headphones I got from massdrop are going to take like 3 months to ship
15:54 < khelpw> Personally, I hate Beyers house sound. Some people love it. Almost nobody likes the 990 from what I understand though
15:55 < khelpw> Hatter: welcome to assdrop
15:55 < Markdown1_> also Sony ones are always on sale
15:55 < Markdown1_> also works with Google Assistant
15:56 < khelpw> If you want cheap sennys, look up renewlogic on ebay - dude always has great condition, low priced senny refurbs
15:56 <@cryptic1> massdrop = no thanks
15:56 < khelpw> Bought from him twice in the past, no issues whatsoever.
15:56 < MrLemur> Markdown1_ rather cheap audio cancelling headphones
15:56 < Nightcinder> ur a dropmass
15:56 < Nightcinder> khelpw: I'd take the WH1000XM2  over QC35
15:56 < MrLemur> https://www.amazon.com/Cancelling-Bluetooth-Headphones-Microphone-Comfortable/dp/B019U00D7K/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1527775011&sr=8-5&keywords=cowin+e7
15:57 < Nightcinder> it says comfy in the title
15:57 < Nightcinder> it must be
15:57 < Markdown1_> I don't like QC35 tbh
15:57 < khelpw> It's a tough call between those two, but don't blame you. TBH I'd probably go sony too.
15:57 < Nightcinder> sony has better features and google assistant
15:57 < khelpw> Sony have better sound, QC better ANC imo
15:57 < khelpw> also ^^ but imo the touch controls or w/e are a bit wonky
15:57 < Markdown1_> MrLemur oh
15:58 < khelpw> I will also say they both have the benefit over most other cans in that they are widely available. You can walk into almost any Best Buy anywhere and try em out.
15:58 < Nightcinder> what are we talkin' about regarding massdrop?
15:58 < Nightcinder> Hatter: you bought HD6xx?
15:58 < Markdown1_> Ive had better Signal strength with Sony ones than Bose TBH, maybe its just the units I was using but the Bose ones disconnected frequently compared to sony
15:58 < Hatter> Nightcinder: yes
15:58 < Nightcinder> good
15:59 < Markdown1_> the range of Sony is also better
15:59 < Hatter> Nightcinder: is it? I don't wait 3 months for anything
15:59 < Tzunamii> lol, I just saw someone on Reddit wanting help with a 160GB MS Access db (!)
15:59 < Hatter> it's why I don't have children
15:59 < Nightcinder> ya
15:59 < Nightcinder> you could just buy them used for roughly the same price too
15:59 < Nightcinder> or hd600's
15:59 < khelpw> Hatter: what do you have to power the 6xx?
15:59 < Markdown1_> MS Access, (Meme)
16:00 < Hatter> khelpw: what do you mean to power
16:00 < khelpw> Amp/dac
16:00 < Nightcinder> he means an amp
16:00 < Hatter> oh I don't have a proper one these days
16:00 < Nightcinder> because they benefit greatly from amplification
16:00 < khelpw> ^^
16:00 < Hatter> url please
16:00 < Nightcinder> budget?
16:00 < corn266> "WE STRIVE TO OFFER THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE" as a government mandated body "WE WILL BE WITH YOU SHORTLY" there's no other government sanctioned company that does your job "YOUR TIME IS VALUABLE TO US"
16:00 < Hatter> money is no object
16:00 < Nightcinder> desktop only?
16:00 < Hatter> yes
16:01 < khelpw> $$$ money is no object, $$$$ money is no object, or $$$$$ money is no object?
16:01 < Nightcinder> http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB1138/NFB1138EN.htm
16:01 < Nightcinder> do you like china
16:01 < khelpw> ^^ or R2R11
16:01 < khelpw> even if you don't. NFBlyfe
16:01 < Nightcinder> if you don't like china
16:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> dumb question inc
16:01 < Hatter> how much is that?
16:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> you can't run a command with GPO right?  You have to make it run a .bat?
16:02 <+ihre> 1/10th of a kidney
16:02 < khelpw> ~$375 shipped
16:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> or ps1 or w.e
16:02 < Hunterkll> khelpw, "eh, shit, this $100k san doesn't do what we need, throw it in the pile for someone else " money is no object
16:02 < Nightcinder> after shipping it'd be like $450
16:02 < Nightcinder> the 11.38
16:02 < Nightcinder> it's $415 preship
16:02 < Hatter> woah that's a bit dear
16:02 < Hunterkll> khelpw, "Eh, these two racks of EMC data domains are full, buy another" money is no object
16:02 < Hunterkll> ;)
16:02 < Nightcinder> $419 sorry
16:02 < khelpw> Oh, that's a 38.
16:02 < Nightcinder> yes it just released
16:02 < khelpw> I thought that was an NFB11.28
16:02 < khelpw> fack
16:02 < khelpw> welp. time to sell the 11.28 lol
16:02 < Nightcinder> you could go with a schiit stack too
16:03 < Hunterkll> ....
16:03 < Hunterkll> lol
16:03 < Nightcinder> http://www.schiit.com/products/modi-2 (uber version) +  http://www.schiit.com/products/magni-3
16:03 < Nightcinder> is not as good as the chinese stuff but cheaper
16:03 < Markdown1_> shit, my shell scrips need some modification
16:03 < Hunterkll> what an unfortunate name
16:03 < JollyRgrs> Nightcinder: that stuff it schiit
16:03 < Hatter> Nightcinder: that seems more reasonable
16:03 < Nightcinder> Hunterkll: oh no it's very intentional
16:03 < Hatter> maybe I'll get that
16:03 < Hunterkll> lol
16:03 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:03 < Nightcinder> they meme all the time
16:03 < khelpw> IMO, NFB is well better than Schiit modi/magni
16:03 < Nightcinder> it is, but it's also a lot more expensive
16:04 < khelpw> Yep
16:04 < abakedapplepie> build your own amp its fun
16:04 < Nightcinder> modi 2 uber + magni 3 is $250
16:04 < Nightcinder> oh
16:04 < Nightcinder> Hatter:
16:04 < Nightcinder> actually
16:04 < khelpw> Yeah, but monoprice desktop amp or just a fulla2 are $99 and ~85% as good from my understanding
16:04 < Nightcinder> https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-cth-sdac-dac-amp dis also good (it comes up daily)
16:04 < Nightcinder> good pair with hd6xx
16:05 < Nightcinder> is $315
16:05 < Nightcinder> fulla 2 is a pos
16:05 < khelpw> IMO, magni/modi aren't much better.
16:06 < Hatter> Nightcinder: you're saying this massdrop should go active today?
16:06 < Nightcinder> it used to, reading comments they may have stopped shipping it daily
16:06 < Nightcinder> i mean you got plenty of time eithe rway
16:07 < Hatter> I suppose so
16:07 < Hatter> well thanks I guess I'll keep an eye on that one
16:08 < Nightcinder> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=33304 this is an unknown quantity right now
16:08 < Nightcinder> could be really good
16:08 < Nightcinder> could be really bad
16:08 < Nightcinder> who knows
16:08 < Markdown1_> massdrop...
16:08 <@cryptic1> not that
16:09 < Hatter> why does everyone hate massdrop? for the lengthy ship times alone?
16:09 < Nightcinder> and questionable CS
16:09 < bmurt> hey cryptic1, i saw a dog walking today that stopped to take a poop on the grass. it made me think of you
16:09 < Nightcinder> cryptic1: back to work
16:09 < Hatter> I bought a bronze keycap from massdrop, I have no idea when I'm getting that
16:09 < JollyRgrs> bmurt: you do that, too?
16:09 < JollyRgrs> i thought it was just me
16:10 < Nightcinder> Hatter: it's like my indiegogos/kickstarters
16:10 < Nightcinder> they just randomly show up
16:10 < bmurt> yessir. sometimes i pull over to watch and end up saying, "that was a big cryptic1" or "damn... that was a wet cryptic1"
16:10 < bmurt> i don't know if you get that detailed JollyRgrs
16:10 < JollyRgrs> i... i don't get taht involved in that process
16:11 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: HA-ddouken!
16:11 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: HA-ddouken!
16:11 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: HA-ddouken!
16:11 < Hatter> cryptic1: fight back
16:12  * cryptic1 punches JollyRgrs 
16:12  * cryptic1 uses his trigger 
16:12  * JollyRgrs unleashes super sayain move on cryptic1
16:12 <@cryptic1> hehehe
16:12 < JollyRgrs> K.O.
16:12 <@cryptic1> I was so bad last night
16:12 < JollyRgrs> haha
16:12 <@cryptic1> dbcc beat my ass
16:12 < JollyRgrs> you did better than i thought you would, tbh
16:12 <@cryptic1> he cheated though using a fight stick
16:12 < JollyRgrs> dbcc seems to be a pretty high-end amateur
16:14 <@cryptic1> there are some new moves as well they removed some for the characters i knew
16:14 <@cryptic1> compared to the past games
16:14 < felda> the only real fighting game is Super Smash Bros
16:15 < corn266> the only real fighting game is pfsense
16:16 <@cryptic1> felda you cannot knock the street fighter series
16:16 < sadbox> the only real fighting game is mario kart
16:16 < corn266> Do I continue to stay on the line (25 minutes) or do I call back
16:16 < felda> yeah I can
16:17 <@cryptic1> BANT!
16:17 < felda> just like I can knock the Beatles too
16:17 < felda> they aren't even good
16:17 <@cryptic1> meh no1 cares about the beatles
16:17 < felda> the Beatles is a boy band
16:17 < corn266> yea beatles are pretty bad
16:17 < sadbox> felda: I think you are overestimating the number of baby boomers in this channel
16:17 < EdgyBOI> all popular things are bad
16:18 < corn266> s/baby boomers/cock suckers
16:18 < sadbox> and/or 20-something white girls
16:18 < Markdown1_> thats not even real
16:19 < Markdown1_> no girls on the internet
16:19 < asimon> Markdown1_: Then who have I been watching at 1am every night?
16:20 < Markdown1_> asimon mmm thats your problem /s
16:31 < JFDkthx> asimon: i appreciate your commited viewership
16:31 < corn266> "I'm sorry you had to wait on the phone 30 minutes, but all calls are answered in the order they're received" "bruh fuck off with that y'all service at least 2000 businesses y'all should probably employ more than 1 phone operator"
16:32 < JFDkthx> "The system is going down for halt NOW!"
16:32 < MadCamel> instead they'll buy a phonebot and get rid of the 1 person completely
16:32 < JFDkthx> bitch says who
16:32 < JFDkthx> MadCamel: please use our internet chat bot
16:32 < corn266> JFDkthx: that's why I have a batch script on my desk to proc `shutdown -a`
16:36 < cantibot> anyone use  AdiIRC ?
16:36 < cantibot> or run irssi in windows?
16:36 <@JollyRgrs> maxwell's even
16:36 < JFDkthx> hey u vmware admins
16:36 < JFDkthx> in 6.5
16:36 < cantibot> HA!
16:36 < cantibot> you wish JFDkthx
16:37 < MadCamel> "Hi, your system won't let me submit a ticket containing IP addresses, I noticed you're using apache with mod_security and it's likely you just enabled too restrictive of a rulese... No I haven't tried rebooting, what would that accomplish? Your server returns http/403 whenever it sees a dotted qua... " *bashes head on wall*
16:37 < cantibot> HYPER-V 4LYFE!!
16:37 < JFDkthx> any fukkin idea why i cant modify storage on a vm
16:37 <@JollyRgrs> cantibot: i run weechat in windows (via ssh into tmux on KiTTY)
16:37 < MadCamel> qemu-kvm masterrace
16:37 <@JollyRgrs> ^^
16:37 < cantibot> lol
16:37 < JFDkthx> like the shit is greyed out
16:37 < cantibot> I run proxmox like an autist
16:37 < corn266> anyone here live in maine?
16:37 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking hell, why the fuck do we buy companies that are fucked
16:38 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: given the number of users, i'm assuming one or a few might
16:38 <+TuxedoJack> AppRiver calling because they didn't pay their last goddamn bill, 3805.75
16:38 < cantibot> im about to setup a box just to run irssi on srsly
16:38 <+TuxedoJack> WHO THE FUCK PAYS THAT MUCH FOR FUCKING APPRIVER
16:38 < cantibot> I hate icechat
16:38 < cantibot> I should just buy a fucking mac...
16:39 < corn266> or install linux os
16:39 < cantibot> but then I have to VM a windows machine to work on anything
16:39 < MadCamel> why?
16:39 < cantibot> because WMI and linux suck?
16:39 < cantibot> And I like using MMC for hyper-v and GPO
16:40 < corn266> alright then vm linux and use hexchat
16:40 < cantibot> ^^^
16:40 < cantibot> that sounds not bad
16:40 < cantibot> I think I have hyper-v service installed on this WS even
16:41 < Markdown1_> https://blog.codinghorror.com/vampires-programmers-versus-werewolves-sysadmins/
16:41 < Hatsjoe> TuxedoJack: well, that company sure didnt pay that much for appriver, given appriver is calling you about that fact.
16:41 < Church-> Heya TuxedoJack MadCamel
16:42 < corn266> JollyRgrs: I'm lookin to smoke some dank this weekend and if maine doesn't have rec dispensaries then I'm flying out to CO
16:42 <+TuxedoJack> Hatsjoe: we bought a shit company in NC / SC, and that came with
16:42 <+TuxedoJack> I don't know why the owner has a hard-on for buying shit companies with fucked situations and large client lists
16:42 <+TuxedoJack> Ahoyhoy, Church
16:43 < Markdown1_> real Sys admins don't use Wind0ws /s
16:43 <+TuxedoJack> Also, it's nice to salvage the old SSDs out of Macbook Airs and throw them in enclosures. 256 / 512GB USB3 SSDs for the cost of an enclosure? Fuckin' A
16:43 < AnimalFarmPig> "I don't know why the owner has a hard-on for buying shit companies with fucked situations and large client lists"  do we work in the same place?
16:44 < Hatsjoe> Arent the SSDs soldered onto the motherboard of macbook airs?
16:44 < cantibot> TuxedoJack they aren't soldered to the mobo?
16:44 < corn266> "large client lists" do you work at any place?
16:44 < cantibot> My 2013 MBP it's soldered right to the fucking board.
16:44 < cantibot> same w/ ram.
16:45 < Hatsjoe> Apparently they are not
16:45 < Hatsjoe> Did a quick google images on macbook air ssd
16:45 < cantibot> If I recall correctly the mobo in a MBP/MBA are like...the size of a smartphone
16:46 <@JollyRgrs> oh man
16:46 <@JollyRgrs> i just made a really bad joke
16:46 <@JollyRgrs> so we have citrix users... servers are 2008 (not R2), it is the highest we can go w/ our version of Citrix (don't ask)
16:46 <@JollyRgrs> O365 can't isntall on 2008, only 2008 R2 and above
16:47 <@JollyRgrs> so this widget for Outlook 2016 365 won't work for them
16:47 <@JollyRgrs> "sorry, if they don't know yet, we will inform them that they have 'the citrix', which unfortunately is terminal"
16:47 <@JollyRgrs> GET IT?
16:47 < Hatsjoe> You have to install O365? its in the cloud right?
16:47 < hxcsp> you have to install the office software
16:47 < AnimalFarmPig> citrix.... terminal... 5/7
16:47 <@JollyRgrs> Hatsjoe: their options are to use the full website for this widget, or to use OWA
16:48 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: thanks
16:48 < Hatsjoe> Ah
16:48 < AnimalFarmPig> it's a subtle joke but it checks out
16:48  * Hatsjoe prefers his openoffice suite
16:48 <@JollyRgrs> but with outlook 2010, they have no hope of outlook client integration
16:48 < AnimalFarmPig> why not Lotus Notes, Symphony, etc.?
16:49 <@JollyRgrs> i hate having to download Toad
16:49 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: harrrrrrr
16:49 < AnimalFarmPig> :P
16:49 < AnimalFarmPig> Toad is super useful. The sales calls from Dell guys a couple days later, not so much.
16:50 < corn266> Morty! Morty! I turned myself into a terminal! I'm citRix!!!
16:50 <@JollyRgrs> quest is not owned by dell anymore
16:50 < AnimalFarmPig> !votekick corn266 corny
16:50 < corn266> oh no
16:50 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: that was kinda bad
16:50 < abakedapplepie> that was great
16:50 < abakedapplepie> keep going
16:50 <@JollyRgrs> all citrix are terminal, not all terminal are citrix
16:50 <@JollyRgrs> square/rectangle, etc
16:51 < Hunterkll> As a reminder folks
16:51 < abakedapplepie> but a terminal can be citrix
16:51 < abakedapplepie> therefor it works
16:51 < Hunterkll> Cocaine support is now open
16:51 < Hunterkll> cocaine.support@cocainedealers.club
16:51 <@JollyRgrs> can be, but also cannot be
16:51 < Hunterkll> for all your email cocaine support needs
16:51 < abakedapplepie> help i accidentally the whole thing
16:51 < abakedapplepie> do the needful cocaine support
16:51 <@JollyRgrs> if he's an ssh terminal... he's not citRix
16:51 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, I even have a cocaine CRM with cocaine field service modules
16:51 < Hunterkll> lol
16:51 < corn266> JollyRgrs: hold up I got a better one
16:51 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: best thing to do is lay low and don't let the cops see you
16:52 < corn266> "sorry, if they don't know yet, we will inform them that they have 'the citrix', which unfortunately is terminal"
16:52 < abakedapplepie> oh, to have your free time
16:52 < abakedapplepie> when did the i3-2130 come out
16:52 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, i have the 'customer engagement plan' on my account
16:52 < Hunterkll> lol
16:52 < Hunterkll> https://dynamics.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/
16:52 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, Q3'11
16:53 < abakedapplepie> oh
16:53 < abakedapplepie> so its not 9 years old
16:53 < abakedapplepie> its only 7
16:53 < abakedapplepie> "only" 7 years old
16:53 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: Imagine if your work found out you bought those domains and managing them on their time
16:53 < abakedapplepie> this guy is like yeah our shop CAD machine seems to be a little slow these days
16:53 < Hunterkll> DomLS3, good thing it aint theri time then huh
16:53 < abakedapplepie> HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING CAD ON A i3-2130
16:53 < abakedapplepie> SRS
16:53 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, it's not that hard
16:53 < abakedapplepie> i think they use extremely old versions of their cad programs
16:53 < Hunterkll> ya'll fuckin' flippin' if you think that you can't get shit done like that
16:53 < Hunterkll> pfff
16:53 < cantibot> autodesk?
16:54 < Hunterkll> newer CAD software i'd be more concerned about the GPU
16:54 < Hunterkll> than the CPU
16:54 < abakedapplepie> cantibot: no idea what they use
16:54 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: sure, but a i3
16:54 < Hunterkll> i3 is perfectly fine depending on what you're doing
16:54 < abakedapplepie> at least it has ht
16:54 < Hunterkll> i'm building an i3 for a gaming rig for someone
16:54 < Hunterkll> lol
16:54 < Hunterkll> it was a design decision. it'll still get over 60fps on pubg and shit so who cares
16:54 < Hunterkll> well, more than that probbaly with the 1080
16:54 < Hunterkll> but still
16:55 < abakedapplepie> a 1080 on an i3
16:55 < abakedapplepie> that just sounds ridiculous
16:55 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, it's called throw as much $ at the GPU and figure the rest out after
16:55 < abakedapplepie> yeah but for what $50 more you can get an i5, all else being the same
16:55 < abakedapplepie> worth
16:55 < Hunterkll> not if you've got a hard budget
16:55 < Hunterkll> :p
16:55 < abakedapplepie> if you have a budget that is that hard
16:56 < abakedapplepie> you probably shouldnt be investing in a gaming computer
16:56 < abakedapplepie> jussayin
16:56 < Hunterkll> I dunno
16:56 < Hunterkll> I did it for my sister
16:56 < Hunterkll> forget what we built her
16:56 < Hunterkll> probably was an i5, but under 500$ with a 970
16:56 < Hunterkll> case was like $30
16:56 < Hunterkll> i gave her 16GB of DDR4
16:56 < Hunterkll> etc
16:56 < cantibot> pfff...probably did it with your sister.
16:56 < Hunterkll> nah
16:56 < Hunterkll> just my cousin
16:56 < abakedapplepie> when my friends want a super budget computer ill give them case, psu, and hdd from the recycling pile
16:56 < cantibot> lol
16:57 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, well, this i3 build is using recycled ram and HDD
16:57 < Hunterkll> so
16:57 < Hunterkll> and CPU cooler too
16:57 < Hunterkll> lmao
16:57 < asimon> who needs a mobo anyways
16:57 < Hunterkll> i don't give out power supplies though
16:57 < DeVito> I'll recycle you
16:57 < Hunterkll> all mine are EVGA with 5-10 year warranties
16:57 < Hunterkll> hahahaa
16:57 < abakedapplepie> my works recycling pile is large
16:57 < abakedapplepie> :)
16:57 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, but yes, i'm wasting a $115/user/month Dynamics 365 license on cocainedealers.club
16:57 <+ihre> evga/corsair/superflower +++
16:57 < Hunterkll> lol
16:57 <+ihre> psu's that is
16:58 < Hunterkll> I actually had to RMA an EVGA PSU recently
16:58 < abakedapplepie> im assuming you dont acvtually pay for it
16:58 < Hunterkll> got the returned new unit here
16:58 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, i have agreements with microsoft
16:58 < Hunterkll> i blow them
16:58 < Hunterkll> they give me free shit
16:58 < abakedapplepie> right
16:58 < Hunterkll> i'm wasting E3 O365 licenses on mailbox only users
16:58 < Hunterkll> >_X
16:58 < DeVito> The craziest part is
16:58 < DeVito> It works out perfectly combined with his utter lack of shame
16:58  * Hunterkll puts a picture of DeVito on hugebuttholes.com
16:58 < abakedapplepie> drugs are a hell of a drug
16:58 < DeVito> Hunterkll, already there, don't you worry
16:59 < Hunterkll> how can you already be there
16:59 < Hunterkll> i haven't made a site for it yet
16:59 < DeVito> I'm there
16:59 < Hunterkll> it's still on the namecheap parking page even though i bought it a year ago
16:59 < DeVito> Don't you worry
16:59 < Hunterkll> lol
17:01 < l3gacy> good bacon to all and to all some good bacon
17:01 < l3gacy> New drama - $DICK_OF_AN_EXBOSS demanded I come in, after I quit, or, he said, "You'll regret it"
17:01 < l3gacy> I already regret working for him...
17:01 < Hunterkll> LOLOLOL
17:02 < cantibot> new drama same shit
17:02 < l3gacy> I'm going out on perm disability
17:02 < cantibot> ammirite?!?!
17:02 < l3gacy> applying for SSI
17:02 < cantibot> I tell people all the time I hope I get hurt on the job
17:02 < l3gacy> I cant deal with the BS right now
17:02 < cantibot> DAT workmans comp doe
17:02 < Hunterkll> AHAAHAHA
17:02 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, https://i.imgur.com/B3AuLvx.png
17:02 < Hunterkll> CAR CAR CAR CAR CAR CAR
17:02 < cantibot> ...but then I will probably have to pee in a cup
17:02 < cantibot> and that doesn't sound good.
17:02 < Hunterkll> yes, i feel like that cocaine has been involved here
17:02 < l3gacy> When I get the SSI, on top of my SSDI, I'm going medical mary
17:02 < l3gacy> Herb err day
17:03 < l3gacy> I'll just bide my time, and then when my buddy finally gets zoning approval, he's opening a cafe/LAN center
17:03 < MillerBoss> Why go on disability?
17:03 < l3gacy> He's got the assets, just needs zoning
17:03 < abakedapplepie> l3gacy: what happened to you
17:03 < l3gacy> I'm schizo-effective
17:03 < abakedapplepie> oh
17:03 < l3gacy> I just had a biting and punching fit, today
17:03 < l3gacy> lost my shit
17:04 < abakedapplepie> :(
17:04 < MillerBoss> And that qualifies for disability?
17:04 < l3gacy> Had to bandage my arm
17:04 < l3gacy> ADHD/Anxiety/Bipolar/Schiz/Hypothyroid/diabetes/psoriasis
17:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> uhh
17:04 < l3gacy> and prone to ass kicking fits of rage if crossed
17:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> you being serious
17:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
17:04 < l3gacy> yes
17:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's... not good man
17:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> time to go to a shrink and get medicateddddd
17:05 < l3gacy> I knocked one dude out jsut for throwing a chair in my house
17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> well he shouldn't have thrown a chair
17:05 < l3gacy> well... socked him in the left temple and choked him
17:05 < khelpw> y'all motherfuckers need je-sus
17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> but that's kind of a...
17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah.. you have anger issues lol
17:05 < l3gacy> He avoids me now :)
17:05 < l3gacy> He once said I probably fuck my father's ashes
17:05 < l3gacy> that got his ass beat
17:05 < MillerBoss> McDonaldsWiFi 👉 That is not how that works bud.
17:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> MillerBoss: I wasn't being totally serious
17:06 <+NinjaStyle> what have i returned to
17:06  * l3gacy shimmies across the dance floor and hand MillerBoss a sriracha garlic aeoli BLT
17:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> I went to a shrink once because I had to for my AHDH diagnosis
17:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> the dude was like begging me to come back
17:06 <@cryptic1> wtf have I returned to
17:06 < l3gacy> ;ack of tacos
17:06 < l3gacy> *lack
17:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> something about depressive issues
17:06 <+giant_it_burrit> turd sandwiches
17:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
17:06 < MillerBoss> Yeah I am hungry, feed me l3gacy
17:06 <@cryptic1> :/
17:07 < MillerBoss> :\
17:07 <+giant_it_burrit> :D
17:07 < l3gacy> So.. SSI said on top of my renewed disability payments, I could get an extra 750-950 a month
17:07 <+NinjaStyle> l3gacy: give to me
17:07 < l3gacy> so I'm gonna do that, and DO ME for a bit till I'm better
17:07 <+NinjaStyle> i got paid my dudes
17:07 <+giant_it_burrit> l3gacy: what happened?
17:07 <+NinjaStyle> today was payday
17:07 <+giant_it_burrit> l3gacy: you ok?
17:07 < l3gacy> And of course hook my son up in 3 months with a better CAD rig
17:08 < l3gacy> giant_it_burrit: far from OK
17:08 <+giant_it_burrit> did you get killed from my monitor?
17:08 < l3gacy> EX boss demanded I come back, or there would be consequences and I would "regret it"
17:08 < l3gacy> I lsot my shit
17:08 <+giant_it_burrit> give me an address ill mail him felda
17:08 < l3gacy> went all punchy bitey
17:08 < GreyKite> l3gacy: that sounds like a threat, did you call the cops?
17:08 < MillerBoss> Government money to pay for a CAD rig?
17:08 < DomLS3> cryptic1: you say that everytime you return. I think you're just saying "wtf have I returned to" just to say it now
17:08 < l3gacy> GreyKite: no.  Blocked him, and reupped my knife collection
17:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> l3gacy: have you went to talk to anyone?
17:08 <+NinjaStyle> DomLS3: its a meme
17:09 < MillerBoss> You are a meme
17:09 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, do i?
17:09 < DomLS3> NinjaStyle: you don't say.jpg
17:09 < l3gacy> McDonaldsWiFi: my the rapist
17:09 < GreyKite> cryptic1: pretty much
17:09 < l3gacy> therapist... fixed that
17:09 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, the chat is that bad in here that often eh
17:09 < l3gacy> My phone autocorrects "Therapist" to "The Rapist" and WOOT! Where meet? to "Woot Wermacht"
17:09 <@cryptic1> maybe a crack down is required
17:09 < DomLS3> cryptic1: good*
17:09 < l3gacy>  #NaziPhone
17:09 < DomLS3> crack down deez nuts
17:09 < DomLS3> :o
17:09 <+NinjaStyle> smoke crack down
17:09 < l3gacy> Cant crack down on imagination
17:10 < l3gacy> lol jk
17:10  * cryptic1 kicks the entire channel
17:10 < DomLS3> cryptic1: what you need to focus cracking down on is the +v bot
17:10 < l3gacy> but I'm taking a mental health break from IT :)
17:10 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, new rules were made
17:10 < l3gacy> Sick of working for shite pay, and getting treated like a third class laborer
17:10 < DomLS3> since when
17:10 <@cryptic1> and besides everyone voted yesterday
17:10 <@cryptic1> for you to not get +v
17:10 < DomLS3> lies
17:10 < DomLS3> logs or it's all lies
17:10 < l3gacy> $10 an hour is NOT IT pay
17:10 <+NinjaStyle> i know i voted
17:10 < l3gacy> I vote we get mahi
17:11 <+NinjaStyle> l3gacy: god damn
17:11 < nurdie> /kickallandlock #reddit-sysadmin
17:11 < DomLS3> cryptic1: voice rules are still in the topic
17:11 <@cryptic1> topic is legacy
17:11 < nurdie> Man I miss the takeover days. Those were fun and mischievous days
17:11 < l3gacy> $EX_BOSS also said I BETTER not make weekend plans, until further notice, as I'm ON CALl
17:11 < l3gacy> *CALL
17:11 < DomLS3> topic is the forefront to the channel
17:11 <@cryptic1> nurdie, pretty hard to do on freenode
17:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> you made 10 bucks an hour?
17:11 <@cryptic1> efnet sure
17:12 < DomLS3> if topic is legacy then I guess I can troll and talk POL all I want
17:12 < l3gacy> yeah, McDonaldsWiFi
17:12 < DomLS3> so how bout POTUS?
17:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> man you can find something way better than that with just an A+ cert
17:12 < l3gacy> How about Islam?
17:12 < l3gacy> I'm very open minded
17:12 <+NinjaStyle>  /nominate crypticjongun
17:12 <+NinjaStyle> oh hooooo
17:12 < l3gacy> lol NinjaStyle
17:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> you guys remember that baby doll that takled about Islam?
17:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> I worked at kmart when it came out, it was hilarious
17:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> ofc it wasnt "on purpose
17:12 < l3gacy> I have my A+ and 4 SEMESTERS of Cisco training
17:12 < DomLS3> it would have been funnier if it blew up
17:12 < GreyKite> McDonaldsWiFi: no, wtf?
17:13 < l3gacy> ALOHA SNACK BAR!
17:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> but when you squeezed its hand it would go "teeheeee islam is the light"
17:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> it was recalled lol
17:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> i couldn't believe it, they all did it
17:13 < nurdie> cryptic1, as long as a channel owner doesn't set his NS pass to password123, it's pretty much impossible nowadays. I remember scripting the "takeover protection" mIRC scripts. IRC was more fun then
17:13 < l3gacy> inshallah, I will have a better income
17:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> im gonna googl eit and find it
17:13 < DomLS3> and hereeee weeee gooooo
17:13 < MillerBoss> ...
17:14 < DomLS3> haha everyone stfu when ravioli +o'd himself
17:14 <+ihre> nurdie: over here, you just pay cryptic1 with enough lootcrates and he'll give you ops regardless
17:14 <+NinjaStyle> fuck cops
17:14  * l3gacy pees in the ficus
17:14 <@cryptic1> ravioli, is the takeover protection
17:14 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
17:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> GreyKite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE4kifrUxDE
17:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL there it is!!!
17:14 < DomLS3> BANBOT9000
17:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> that shit is hilarious
17:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> skip about half way through to hear it
17:14 <+NinjaStyle> i got paid so now i can afford more loot crates
17:15 < DomLS3> loot crates are fake news
17:15 < l3gacy> that vid.  That southern drawl form the mom.  So meme-able
17:15 <+ihre> s/fake news/valid currency
17:15 <+NinjaStyle> :o
17:15 < khelpw> cryptic1: you should op me. I'm basically Sweden - uninvolved in drama
17:15 < l3gacy>  #MommaDoesMeth
17:15 < DomLS3> l3gacy: that's nawt raaaaaht
17:15 < l3gacy> Seeing that video made me squint over stupidity so hard
17:16 < l3gacy> I want to open a restaraunt
17:16 < khelpw> I've got a resume of being OP on 3 other channels, where people can vouch for the fact that I don't start things, and don't abuse it unless it's guaranteed to be funny.
17:16 <+NinjaStyle> khelpw: i should get op for being basically batman
17:16 < McDonaldsWiFi> l3gacy: lol that aint riiiiihhh
17:16 < khelpw> NinjaStyle: sure, but we'd have to kill your parents.
17:16 <+NinjaStyle> ;o
17:16 <@cryptic1> ravioli, is only op you ever all need
17:16 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
17:16 <@cryptic1> D:
17:16 < rhqq> :*
17:16 < DomLS3> DomLS3 is only voice you ever all need
17:16 < khelpw> But who ravioli's the ravioli?
17:16 < DomLS3> fax ^
17:16 <@cryptic1> ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli,
17:16 <@cryptic1> ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli, ravioli,
17:16 <+NinjaStyle> spam
17:16 < DomLS3> FLOODING
17:17 <+ihre> holy sheeeeeeeiit
17:17 < DomLS3> SPAM
17:17 < FenJai> MOMDS MODS
17:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> is DomLS3's mom in here?
17:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> cause its FLOODING
17:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehuehue
17:17 < DomLS3> that was lame
17:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> :(
17:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> i tried
17:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's all teh count
17:17 < l3gacy> Dude told his son "I did your mom" on XBONE.  Son was like "I've been deeper in her than you'll ever be"
17:17 < DomLS3> l3gacy: Technically not a lie
17:17 < l3gacy> *rimshot*
17:18  * corn266 attempts to kick formuoli
17:19 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: did it work?
17:19 <@cryptic1> if you say ravioli 3x you get autoop
17:19 < l3gacy> I need to open a Russian/Spanish fusion place
17:19 < rhqq> ravioli was cleaning sauce off his tiny penne
17:19 < corn266> no :(
17:19 < l3gacy> "Mi Babashka Loca"
17:19 <+NinjaStyle> rhqq: lol
17:19 <@cryptic1> felda ^
17:19 < l3gacy> Pierogies :)
17:19 < DomLS3> cryptic1 I bet I'm faster than you
17:19 < DomLS3> if you op me
17:19 < Hunterkll> hey guys
17:19 < Hunterkll> check out my new site
17:20 < Hunterkll> http://www.hugebuttholes.com/
17:20 < l3gacy> Stuffed with chorizo
17:20 < rhqq> l3gacy: pierogi is laready plural!!
17:20 < Hunterkll> I updated http://www.hugebuttholes.com/
17:20 < DomLS3> Code_Man65 found out the hard way
17:20 < Hunterkll> hand coded the HTML myself even
17:20 < corn266> Hunterkll: reported for not having me on there
17:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> s/Code_Man65/Chode_Mayn69
17:20 < l3gacy> Ooooh... Chorizo and egg breakfast pierogie
17:20 < l3gacy> with sazon :)
17:21 < DomLS3> cryptic1: do eeeet I dare uuuuu
17:21 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: is this your hit list?
17:21 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: damn that's the risky click of the day
17:21 < DomLS3> lol
17:21 < Hunterkll> awwww yesss
17:21 < Hunterkll> I updated it again
17:21 < Hunterkll> http://www.hugebuttholes.com/
17:22 <+NinjaStyle> nice marquee
17:22 < DomLS3> When I see that link all I can think of is goatse
17:22 < rhqq> Hunterkll: add some funchia background
17:22 < l3gacy> or tubgirl
17:22 < DomLS3> or 1 man 1 jar
17:22 < DomLS3> +m incoming
17:22 < nurdie> Fancy
17:22 < rhqq> meh
17:22 < ravioli> bbl
17:22 < rhqq> ravioli: hows your penne
17:22 < l3gacy> I told my grand aunt, on facebooger, to vote for the right party, lemonparty....
17:22 < l3gacy> she clicked the link, and then blocked me
17:22 <+NinjaStyle> lol
17:23 < l3gacy> She was voting Romney at the time
17:23 < MillerBoss> Thats pretty Hunterkll, thanks.
17:23 < Hunterkll> MillerBoss, i just added the purple
17:23 < Hunterkll> http://www.hugebuttholes.com/
17:23 < Hunterkll> i changed the background color from white everyone
17:23 < nurdie> lol
17:23 < Hunterkll> now to make a favicon
17:23 <+NinjaStyle> goatse
17:24 < Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, you made the list BTW
17:24 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, hahahah that'd be hilarious
17:24 < Hunterkll> put the goatse where no one expects it
17:24 < Hunterkll> its a really good thing i have this book here
17:24 <@cryptic1> wtf
17:24 < l3gacy> Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
17:24 < Hunterkll> "Using HTML4, XML, and Java 1.2" from 1999
17:24 <+NinjaStyle> weird turtle friend
17:25 < Hunterkll> it is helping me develop this website
17:25 <+NinjaStyle> Hunterkll: it looks professional
17:26 < asimon> Why are irc bots so hard
17:26 < rhqq> they're not
17:26 < rhqq> you can write a simple irc bot in 20 lines of bash
17:26 < asimon> I'm running into the same unicode issues that MillerBoss did
17:26 < Hunterkll> asimon, because you're not developing them in Java 1.2
17:26 < MillerBoss> Because they are built Ford Tough
17:27 < corn266> F.o.r.d. tough
17:27 < asimon> I guess I should pull out my pi tomorrow and actually get it loaded onto something more stable than running from my vscode terminal
17:28 <+NinjaStyle> asimon: write it in go
17:28 < asimon> lolnah
17:28 <+NinjaStyle> EYS
17:28 <+NinjaStyle> YES*
17:28 < Jekotia> Employee's iphone can't connect to our network. Says incorrect password, but the password IS correct. I tested the exact same password for the exact same network on my device. Fucking apple :|
17:29 <+NinjaStyle> probably the username
17:29 <+NinjaStyle> or domain
17:29 < corn266> probably the password
17:29 < corn266> or dns
17:29 < Jekotia> I mean wifi. Guess I was too vague with network.
17:29 < nurdie> asimon, you're not the first to write a bash IRC client. Google some examples and compare to your code :p
17:30 < Jekotia> Looks like there's a different error and it's reporting it incorrectly in the UI
17:30 < corn266> wrong authentication thing? ie WPK2 or some shit
17:30 < MrLemur> Has anyone deployed AlwaysOn VPN with an existing Cisco AnyConnect deployment?
17:30 < rhqq> its dns
17:30 < asimon> nurdie: Actually I was using an open-source bot (sopel) - I might be better off writing my own for the experience and for thoroughness sake
17:31 < nurdie> asimon, oh. That sucks lol. Just look at other IRC clients and figure out how to fix your UNICODE issues
17:31 < rhqq> asimon: it's very little logic
17:32 < rhqq> i wrote an irc client in bash once, just to practice that /dev/tcp feature in 4.0
17:32 < Hatter> omf'n g
17:32 < Hatter> has anyone setup elastic + kibana + logstash w/ x-pack lately
17:33 < rhqq> and it was really around 20-30 lines
17:33 < asimon> huh
17:33 < asimon> I guess all you need really is a connect and register, then ping/pong responses
17:33 < rhqq> ya
17:33 < asimon> and whatever actual functionality you want
17:33 < rhqq> ya
17:33 < rhqq> and since everything is
17:33 < rhqq> erm /join or /say
17:34 < rhqq> you're done in no time
17:34 < AnimalFarmPig> just silently drop unicode data. Fuck those people for needing more than the 127 character supplied by ASCII
17:34 < AnimalFarmPig> they should have changed their languages
17:34 <+NinjaStyle> Hatter: yeah its dope
17:34 < rhqq> actually that's not the worst idea if it comes to plain irc bot
17:35 < Hatter> NinjaStyle: but I keep getting 401 errors with logstash -> elastic
17:35 < rhqq> but it'd be fun to have bot write all the unicode characters that break iphones
17:35 < rhqq> :P
17:35 <+NinjaStyle> oh yeah its kind of a whore to set up
17:35 < Hatter> it's the worst
17:35 < AnimalFarmPig> wait, there are unicode chars that break iphone?
17:35 < rhqq> yeah
17:35 <+NinjaStyle> there were
17:35 < rhqq> like every 2 year
17:35 < AnimalFarmPig> lol
17:35 < Hatter> I have my mf'n credentials in the output section of my logstash config
17:35 < rhqq> they find another one
17:35 < rhqq> over and over
17:35 < rhqq> :D
17:36 < AnimalFarmPig> unicode was a terrible idea. I'm actually serious about using ascii characters. If your language can't be expressed in ascii, change your language or don't use computers.
17:36 <+NinjaStyle> rhqq: are you using python 3?
17:36 <+NinjaStyle> AnimalFarmPig: lolwat
17:37 < rhqq> NinjaStyle: no, im pure bash guy
17:37 < rhqq> i do speak perl a little though
17:37 < rhqq> just to annoy other people
17:37 < AnimalFarmPig> NinjaStyle: if your language requires characters outside the ascii set, your language is wrong
17:37 <+NinjaStyle> ...
17:38 <+NinjaStyle> that's not how it works
17:38 < rhqq> ółćżąźćś
17:38 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ degeneracy
17:38 < corn266> I agree rhqq
17:38 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: no utf-8? *grabs a rolled-up newspaper*
17:38 < khelpw> Has anyone here played Into the Breach?
17:39 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: the world is much simpler when everything is in ascii. That simplicity is infinitely more valuable than supporting stupid shit like accents, non-roman characters, right to left text, emojis, etc.
17:39  * Heresiarch whacks AnimalFarmPig with the newspaper
17:39 < Hatter> AnimalFarmPig: sounds pretty racist
17:39 < Heresiarch> BAD DEV!
17:40 < AnimalFarmPig> Python actually makes this very simple-- https://pypi.org/project/Unidecode/
17:40 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: i should kick you for copying my joke... but i'm honored just the same :P
17:40 < AnimalFarmPig> Hatter: I don't see how race is involved?
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hunterkll: what lis tlol
17:42 < MillerBoss> s/kick/lick
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> list*
17:43 <+NinjaStyle> huge buttholes McDonaldsWiFi
17:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh nice
17:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm totally tight butthole
17:43 < Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, it's still in development and i'm limiting myself to only techniques found in my 1999 HTML4/XML/Java 1.2 book but
17:43 < Hunterkll> http://www.hugebuttholes.com/
17:43 < corn266> doesn't mean it's not large
17:44 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: ...wat.
17:44 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: lol
17:44 < Hatter> sfw?
17:44 < Hunterkll> Hatter, yes actually
17:44 < Hunterkll> except for the URL showing up in your browsing logs
17:44 < Hunterkll> lmao
17:44 <+NinjaStyle> except for the favicon goatse
17:44 < Hunterkll> haven't implemented that yet
17:44 <+NinjaStyle> aw
17:44 < Hunterkll> still getting the marquee tag down
17:45 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, hahahaha this damn online text editor on the hosting package expects doctype to only be <!DOCTYPE html>
17:45 < Hunterkll> which is indicitive of HTML5
17:45 < Hunterkll> bitch i'm using 4.01 transitional
17:45 < AnimalFarmPig> marquee tag is super easy <marquee>awesome text</marquee>
17:45 < Hunterkll> fuck off
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> risky click Hunterkll
17:46 < AnimalFarmPig> too bad <blink> is no longer supported by anyone, except, I think, IE
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOVE the classic look
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> web 1.0 lol
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> dat marque
17:46 < rhqq> Hunterkll: you're missing some old-school gifs
17:46 < rhqq> and alternate cursor
17:46 < Hunterkll> rhqq, gotta find a backup of my geocities site
17:46 < Hunterkll> wait no
17:46 < Hunterkll> i have frontpage 95
17:46 < Hunterkll> the under construction gifs are in that
17:46 < rhqq> yeah
17:46 < Hunterkll> brb win95 installing
17:46 < Hunterkll> :P
17:47 < AnimalFarmPig> use image maps for navigation, pls
17:47 < rhqq> something like that
17:47 < rhqq> also play music
17:47 < abakedapplepie> dont forget the multitude of "DHTML" scripts
17:47 < ebol4> make sparkles come out of the mouse cursor
17:47 < AnimalFarmPig> some Nine Inch Nails MIDI set to autoplay, pls
17:47 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, i haven't gotten to the dynamic html section of the book yet
17:47 < AnimalFarmPig> actually, sadly, none of the modern browsers support MIDI anymore
17:47 < abakedapplepie> and at least 3 webrings and a guestbook
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> use frames
17:48 <+NinjaStyle> yeah frames and a guestbook +1
17:48 < Hunterkll> and nobody noticed the title yet
17:48 < Hunterkll> lol
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> navigation frame on the left side with image map for actual navigation
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> frame at the bottom for the web ring
17:48 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, don't make me. I do remember how to use that cgi-bin directory....
17:48 < abakedapplepie> flash splash page
17:48 < abakedapplepie> visitor counter
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> s/flash/java applet
17:48 < abakedapplepie> animated title
17:48 <+NinjaStyle> oh yeah visitor counter
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> s/java applet/activex control
17:49 < Hunterkll> oh
17:49 < Hunterkll> oh dear god
17:49 < Hunterkll> oh dear god
17:49 <+NinjaStyle> lol activex to load the visitor counter
17:49 < AnimalFarmPig> visitor counter needs to be cgi
17:49 < Heresiarch> and written as a single binary in C.
17:50 <+NinjaStyle> but...holes
17:50 < vader-> Anyone on Verizon FIOS gigabit?
17:50 < corn266> fucking McDonaldsWiFi name gonna give me a epiliepsy
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> xDDD
17:52 < dragonfleas> Should I set up DirectAccess or VPN?
17:52 < Markdown1_> no I am on Google Webpass :)
17:52 < corn266> both configured on the same port
17:52 < Markdown1_> Gigabit
17:52 < corn266> vader-: I'd like to be
17:52 < vinrock> vader- i am
17:53 < Hunterkll> I HAVE
17:53 < Hunterkll> ENHANCED IT
17:53 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, both
17:53 < corn266> ZOOM IN
17:53 < AnimalFarmPig> Verizon sold my FiOS service area to Frontier a while ago :(
17:53 < dragonfleas> yeah I think I'm just going to go ahead and set up directaccess on the same port because why not
17:53 < vinrock> florida?
17:53 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, directaccess won't get you everything full access - you're limited to things that can be resolved by DNS only, no IP, and there's some entanglement to deal wtih too, but it'll get you 'always on'
17:53 < corn266> rip AnimalFarmPig
17:53 < AnimalFarmPig> Texas
17:53 < Hunterkll> http://hugebuttholes.com/
17:53 < Hunterkll> HAS BEEN
17:53 < Hunterkll> ENHANCED
17:53 < vinrock> they did that in fl too
17:54 < vader-> How well does the gigabit service work?
17:54 < corn266> They do that everywhere vinrock it's so they don't get a monopoly on the area and I'd be willing to bet frontier is a shell company for verizon
17:54 < vinrock> vader- it rulez
17:54 < corn266> It depends vader- back in '16 frontier worked for me but everyone complained out the ass
17:55 < vader-> Do you go from your ONT to their Router via coax or Ethernet? Do you use your own router?
17:55 < vinrock> going from comcast bidness to fios latency dropped like a sumbitch
17:55 < vinrock> ont -> my router/fw
17:56 < vader-> Do you do Ethernet from the ont?
17:56 < vinrock> yup
17:56 < vinrock> using the small ont until they rip the copper from the poles in on this street then gonna need the big one
17:57 < vader-> Did they just do it that way or did you have to ask them to turn it on?
17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> I also do ethernet from the ONT
17:57 < vinrock> whatcha mean?
17:57 < AnimalFarmPig> I had to call to ask them to switch from coax to ethernet
17:57 < vader-> Default is coax
17:58 < vader-> MoCA
17:58 < vinrock> well
17:58 < vinrock> not on the two fios installs i did over the past couple weeks
17:58 < AnimalFarmPig> if you're getting gigabit service though, surprising that they would default to coax-- Does MoCA even support gigabit?
17:58 < vinrock> they were getting ready to set up their own routers with ethernet and i was like yo dawg toss that shit
17:58 < vader-> Ya Bonded MoCA 2.x does
17:58 < vader-> Or close
17:58 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, wow, neat
17:59 < Heresiarch> hmm...might be time to update my existing moca bridges.
17:59 < vader-> Was just looking at this actiontec moca to Ethernet adapters
17:59 < Hunterkll> AHAHAHAHA
17:59 < vader-> Pretty neat
17:59 < Hunterkll> THE MARQUEE TAG WORKS ON SAFARI ON IPHONE
17:59 < Hunterkll> HAHAHAHAHA
17:59 < Hunterkll> MY WEBSITE IS IPHONE COMPATIBLE
17:59 < AnimalFarmPig> I went ethernet because I didn't want to buy a MoCA bridge. I seem to remember them being expensive.
17:59 < scwizard> so like
17:59 < scwizard> at least my boss is convinced now
17:59 < scwizard> that the database migration requires downtime
17:59 < vader-> $80
17:59 < scwizard> which is good this means we can do it in a sensible fashion
18:00 < vinrock> yeah they didnt even try using coax both installs, 2 differnet sites, one big and one small ont both times they were using ethernet
18:00 < corn266> scwizard: good job go buy a lottery ticket
18:00 < vader-> I want to get away from renting their modems
18:00 < AnimalFarmPig> vinrock: might be different for a newly provisioned ONT?
18:00 < vader-> I have 75/75 plan right now
18:00 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: office, or did you wire your house?
18:00 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: hosue
18:00 < AnimalFarmPig> house
18:00 < ebol4> hausu
18:00 < vinrock> possibly?
18:00 < AnimalFarmPig> haz
18:00 < corn266> vader-: what modem would you recommend? I've been looking to switch from comcast but the modem is the only thing holding me up
18:00 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: how much of a pain in the arse was it?
18:00 < vader-> Supposedly all new ones are ETH on the ONT
18:00 < vinrock> vader theyre doing 250/mo promotional rate for gigabit right now
18:01 < ebol4> for residential?
18:01 < vinrock> *business fios
18:01 < ebol4> that's very expensive
18:01 < ebol4> oh ok
18:01 < vader-> I'm using UBNT USG for my home router/firewall
18:01 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: I did it the lazy way-- I ran CAT6 from the ONT, over the roof to the other side of the house, through my window, and into my office.
18:01 < vader-> Residential gigabit fiber in my area is $80 with TV
18:01 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: ...oh. So you didn't really wire up the house, just ran a long cable. XD
18:01 < corn266> goddamn that's slick vader-
18:01 < AnimalFarmPig> Heresiarch: then, for the house, I run cables along the walls in conduit, because my house is weirdly constructed and I don't have an attic or any way to get into the walls without cutting
18:02 < AnimalFarmPig> vader-: woah, what area?
18:02 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: hmm. Will have to think on it, then. Wiring up my place will be mildly obnoxious.
18:02 < AnimalFarmPig> I pay that much for 75/75 with TV
18:02 < vader-> Philly metro
18:02 < AnimalFarmPig> interesting
18:02 < AnimalFarmPig> lunch time, bbl
18:03 < abakedapplepie> ooooo that reminds me
18:03 < abakedapplepie> i have to switch to comcast
18:03 < abakedapplepie> im sick of WoW's bullshit service quality
18:03 < asimon> comcast is literally the worst
18:04 < abakedapplepie> at least with comcast they just suck on a existential level
18:04 < asimon> be careful
18:04 < abakedapplepie> ive had them
18:04 < abakedapplepie> theyve fucked me
18:04 < abakedapplepie> I actually got a refund check from them
18:04 < abakedapplepie> wanted to frame that bitch but the bank wouldnt let me keep it
18:04 < asimon> Wouldn't let me cancel my service a few years ago
18:04 < abakedapplepie> and my mobile deposit wouldnt work
18:05 < abakedapplepie> when i went to return my device, they closed and locked the door as i was walking up to the place
18:05 < abakedapplepie> literally just a drop off, no paperwork or nothing
18:05 < abakedapplepie> the guy was such an asshole
18:05 < abakedapplepie> they had 30 people still waiting inside
18:05 < abakedapplepie> take my fucking device
18:05 < abakedapplepie> jokes on them, i dropped it off at UPS and they paid to have it shipped
18:05 < abakedapplepie> protip: you can drop off any comcast equipment at any ups location and they will return it
18:08 < Sousapro> does anyone know of a good way to disable/remove microsoft solitaire collection, onenote (windows 10 app version) and the xbox app from Windows 10 Enterprise workstations?
18:08 < Sousapro> oh, I should mention prefer GPO over running powershell to uninstall them
18:08 < abakedapplepie> Sousapro: https://github.com/Disassembler0/Win10-Initial-Setup-Script/blob/master/Win10.ps1
18:08 < abakedapplepie> oh
18:08 < vinrock> they put the fuckin xbox app on enterprise?
18:08 < asimon> appx-removeget-appxpackage *solitaire* | remove-appxpackage
18:08 < alazare619> abakedapplepie:  i play on a private wow server :P
18:08 < asimon> vinrock: yeah there's a bunch of bullshit there
18:09 < Sousapro> vinrock: yeah
18:09 < vinrock> ugh
18:09 < abakedapplepie> alazare619: Wow = wideopenwest in this case :P
18:09 < vinrock> how did you guys deploy win10
18:09 < vinrock> ent
18:09 < Sousapro> I wanted something maintainable and not having to have the desktop team touch it constantly
18:09 < asimon> with lots of pain
18:09 < abakedapplepie> carefully
18:09 < asimon> Some of the provisioned apps actually caused fatal errors in deployment
18:09 < Sousapro> vinrock: update group policy central store, create new windows 10 GPOs, ..., profit?
18:09 < vinrock> im gettin ready for next year's deployment
18:09 < vinrock> gona replace all the hardware as well
18:10 < Sousapro> asimon: that would be why I'm trying to avoid being clever and use GPOs wherever possible
18:10 < vinrock> wondering if im gona have to reinstall on every workstation or if there is like a product key upgrade that just 'unlocks' enterprise
18:10 < asimon> Like candy crush would cause sysprep to fail
18:10 < vinrock> oh youre fuckin kidding me candy crush shows up on it?
18:10 < abakedapplepie> oh god really
18:10 < abakedapplepie> what the fuck
18:10 < asimon> yeah
18:10 < abakedapplepie> holy shit
18:10 < abakedapplepie> that hurts my brain
18:10 < abakedapplepie> im not surprised
18:10 < abakedapplepie> im not even disappointed
18:10 < asimon> Basically everything you don't want on an enterprise edition they included
18:10 < Sousapro> vinrock: no, I don't have it on mine
18:10 < abakedapplepie> its just sad
18:11 < vinrock> hm
18:11 < Sousapro> vinrock: need to set up your group policy correctly
18:11 < asimon> Although I think the new isos they ship with don't have most of the crap anymore
18:11 < Sousapro> annoyances are solitaire, xbox, and mixed reality portal
18:11 < asimon> But definitely the 1709 and earlier ones did
18:12 < asimon> Sousapro: see if there are any gpo's regarding provisioned packages - that's how they get all that shit to install in the first place
18:12 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: i don think you can upgrade to ent that way
18:12 < felda> Pfsense
18:12 < abakedapplepie> enterprise is volume licensed and can you change to vl from retail?
18:12 < asimon> Probably won't help you if they're already there, but it might prevent future headaches
18:12 < vinrock> i got a feeling it's gona be a pin in the dick
18:12 < Sousapro> vinrock: I'm pretty sure you just do an in-place upgrade install
18:12 < abakedapplepie> unless youre already volume
18:12 < vinrock> idk i just recall reading somewhere there was an easy upgrade path that didnt require reinstalling
18:12 < vinrock> ah ok
18:12 < Sousapro> vinrock: you can also use USMT through MDT/WDS
18:12 < abakedapplepie> yeah you can "upgrad" but i dont know if theres just a feature unlock
18:12 < abakedapplepie> although there should be
18:12 < abakedapplepie> the os is the same
18:13 < abakedapplepie> i hate microsoft licensing
18:13 < abakedapplepie> like why can i upgrade to datacenter from standard, but i cant downgrade from datacenter to standard
18:14 < darkscrypt> yup
18:14 < abakedapplepie> had a coworker provision datacenter and set up the whole thing, before he realized it needed to be standard
18:14 < Sousapro> abakedapplepie: I've learned that most of the stupid like that boils down to "people were abusing it"
18:14 < darkscrypt> i hate that too.
18:14 < abakedapplepie> theres a super hacky workaround
18:14 < abakedapplepie> but id never do it in prod
18:14 < Hunterkll> GUYS
18:15 < Hunterkll> I'VE UPGRADED BUTTHOLE SECURITY
18:15 < Hunterkll> IT'S NOW SSL ENABLED -> https://hugebuttholes.com/
18:15 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: that's SFW right? :P
18:15 < abakedapplepie> bascially change the registry to appear to be standard then do a reload
18:15 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, yes
18:15 < abakedapplepie> super hacky
18:16 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, you can't downgrade from datacenter to standard because you might have enabled/be using features taht are not available instandard
18:16 < Hunterkll> same reason you can turn off windows S mode, but can't turn it back on - you might have installed some win32 shit that isn't S mode compliant and therefore your boned
18:16 < abakedapplepie> meh, it couldnt be that hard to check for those cases
18:16 < Jekotia> Any viable alternatives to ldap? We're not getting a WIndows server any time soon, and it would be nice to have a central auth server that doesn't make me want to KMS
18:17 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, not all of them are simple checks though
18:17 < Hunterkll> ;)
18:17 < abakedapplepie> and wait are there any additional features in datacenter? i could have sworn the only difference is the licensing
18:17 < abakedapplepie> like 99% sure
18:17 < Sousapro> Jekotia: welcome to why I've seen 100% linux/unix shops running Windows AD domains
18:17 <+ihre> Jekotia: IdM/FreeIPA
18:17 < Sousapro> Jekotia: everything else is prepare your bumhole
18:17 <+ihre> Jekotia: foxpass, ymmv
18:18 < abakedapplepie> samba dc if you hate yourself
18:18 < Hunterkll> Jekotia, Solaris with NIS+
18:18 < Sousapro> abakedapplepie: ++++++++++++
18:18 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, the difference was licensing only for the most part in 2012 R2
18:18 < Sousapro> only if you pray for death tho
18:18 < Jekotia> abakedapplepie: I tried that and decided I don't hate myself THAT much
18:18 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, in 2016 there's a slew of differences
18:18 < abakedapplepie> in my specific case it was indeed 12r2
18:18 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, still, there's AVMA to consier in case of virtualization, etc
18:18 < Hunterkll> stuff that you can't outright tell
18:19 < Hunterkll> that's not even testable, but it's licensing terms
18:19 < abakedapplepie> also did you guys know that ubnt started putting hardware reset switches on their POE injectors?
18:19 < abakedapplepie> fucking. genius.
18:20 < abakedapplepie> factory reset your devices without getting out a ladder / manlift / whatever else
18:20 < vinrock> no shit
18:20 < vinrock> i should get those injectors out of the boxes n check
18:21 < rhqq> nice
18:21 < abakedapplepie> i know at least the ap ac pros have it
18:21 < vinrock> thats all i use
18:21 < vader-> Ballpark wise what do you think the salary range is for an Azure Infrastructure Consultant in a major metro area is?
18:21 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: its on the back so udner the mount plate
18:21 <+NinjaStyle>  depends vader-
18:21 < vinrock> cool
18:22 <+NinjaStyle> vader-: my previous company was hiring cloud architect consultants for >150k
18:22 < vader-> Just looking for a general range
18:22 < abakedapplepie> salary, not contract?
18:22 < vader-> Salary
18:22 < abakedapplepie> i would say probably at least 120-150
18:23 < abakedapplepie> depending on which metro area
18:23 <+ihre> rio de janeiro
18:23 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:23 < vader-> Haha
18:23 < vader-> Philly/NY metro
18:23 <+ihre> bratislava
18:23 <+NinjaStyle> ny you could pull 200k i bet
18:24 < steevo> you would have to, it costs that much for 2bd apartment
18:24 < khelpw> Don't go to NYC
18:25 < vinrock> nyc is a great place to spend tons of fuckin money for little in return
18:25 < vinrock> i wouldnt commute unless i was pullin in over 200k
18:27 <+NinjaStyle> idk it really depends
18:27 < khelpw> I wouldn't commute for 10x that.
18:27 <+NinjaStyle> lol
18:27 <+NinjaStyle> that unreasonable
18:27 <+NinjaStyle> that's*
18:27 < vinrock> well yeah i wouldnt either
18:27 < khelpw> I wouldn't commute for 10x that and the CEO of the company I work for riding shotgun and sucking my dick.
18:27 < vinrock> id own a place in the city if i was making 2m a year
18:28 < khelpw> there is seriously no amount of money you could pay me to ruin my life like that
18:28 < asimon> khelpw: Train or bus in isn't that bad
18:28 < asimon> I wouldn't drive in
18:28 < asimon> but if someone else can bring me...
18:28 < khelpw> Isn't bad until there's one broken rail, somewhere on the system
18:28 < khelpw> then suddenly everyone is packed in like vacuum sealed sardines.
18:28 < ebol4> yeah i don't think there's any amount of money you could pay me to get me to stay in nyc
18:29 < vinrock> if this was 1980s nyc then fuck yes im there
18:29 < ebol4> do you like getting mugged
18:29 < vinrock> but 2010's nyc is boring af
18:29 < ebol4> why
18:29 < Markdown1_> NYC have a weird smell in the air
18:29 < vinrock> 1980s nyc was pure insanity
18:29 < khelpw> It's called hot garbage.
18:29 < khelpw> vinrock: go live in the bronx now.
18:29 < vinrock> i sold cocaine for years im very familiar with uptown
18:30 < Markdown1_> ...
18:30 < vinrock> its nothing like it used to be
18:30 <+NinjaStyle> vinrock is jayz
18:30 < vinrock> nah hes from brooklyn
18:30 < Spr1ng> So I have a DMARC TXT record setup for a clients domain, waited quite a while, almost 24 hours, and every DMARC checker says that the DNS record is missing but the syntax for the record is 100% accurate.  I have no idea why it's not working, anybody worked with DMARC before?
18:30 <+NinjaStyle> he sold kilos of coke, he's guessing he can sell CDs
18:30 < khelpw> vinrock: depends on where you go, I guess.
18:30 < Markdown1_> NinjaStyle he is 2Pac
18:30 < Markdown1_> 2pac is Alive
18:31 < bmurt> wtf. how come ravioli gets +o but i only bet +v
18:31 < ebol4> Spr1ng: do you have the TXT record on the correct subdomain? _dmarc.domain.com ?
18:31 < bmurt> bullshit up in hurr
18:31 < vinrock> fite him
18:31 < Spr1ng> Yep!
18:31 < khelpw> BK and queens are pretty well gentrified as is anything south of ~120th st
18:31 < khelpw> Once you get deep though, plenty of streets full of burned out cars and people shooting craps on the sidewalk etc.
18:31 < bmurt> looks like my +v is broken too
18:32 < vinrock> nah thats what it used to be like, not any more
18:32 < vinrock> washington heights up to the 80s in harlem
18:32 < ebol4> Spr1ng: hard saying without looking at it
18:32 < vinrock> 180s
18:32 < khelpw> Man I drove past that shit last week
18:32 < vinrock> you can still find little pockets of shittyness
18:32 < khelpw> Yeah, it's not everywhere though
18:32 < Markdown1_> you should visit Los Angeles
18:32 < khelpw> you're right
18:32 < Spr1ng> ya undrstandable ebol4 thx
18:32 < khelpw> but it's definitely still there
18:32 < vinrock> but it used to be the whole top half of the island
18:32 < Markdown1_> you would see literally people shitting in the streets in LA
18:32 < khelpw> Right, it's not that.
18:32 < ebol4> understandable have a nice day
18:33 < vinrock> markdown la has always sounded like a shithole
18:33 < Markdown1_> then again we are not much better here in SF
18:33 < steevo> vinrock, that's because it is
18:33 < vinrock> ive never been there but i believe you
18:33 <+NinjaStyle> most of cali seems shitty
18:33 <+NinjaStyle> except socal
18:33 < Markdown1_> NinjaStyle thats your Opinion
18:33 < Spr1ng> ebol4: good day sir!
18:34 < Markdown1_> NorCal is way better than SoCal
18:34 < vinrock> cali in general seemed nice in my experience, it was the people that sucked
18:34 <+NinjaStyle> Markdown1_: thats whatvi said
18:34 <+NinjaStyle> i never said cali is shit, i said it seems shitty
18:34 <+NinjaStyle> you snowflake
18:34 < vinrock> but ive only been to OC/San Diego and bay area/San Fran
18:34 < Markdown1_> oh
18:34 < Markdown1_> Bay Area Minus San Francisco is good.
18:35 < DomLS3> k I deserved that one
18:35 < DomLS3> lol
18:35 < vinrock> My favorite place was actually Vallejo
18:35 < vinrock> it was grimy enough the people seemed chill
18:35 < vinrock> kinda like east coast with palm trees
18:35 < Markdown1_> vinrock thats Florida
18:35 < vinrock> i love florida
18:35 < vinrock> except the middle part with all the old folks and tourists
18:35 <+NinjaStyle> weather in florida is not as good as cali tho
18:36 < vinrock> yeah cali weather is the bomgb
18:36 < khelpw> The middle part isn't all old folks and tourists, just Orlando and Daytona
18:36 < Markdown1_> I love the Cali weather
18:36 < khelpw> Go a few miles out and you'll find real rednecks
18:36 < ebol4> flo... ri... da.... rides a little flora
18:36 < vinrock> khelpw i consider anything on the i4 corridor the middle fulla old folks and tourists
18:36 < ebol4> do do dodododoo dodo
18:36 < ebol4> do do do do do
18:36 < Markdown1_> places like New York or New England is too cold for me
18:36 < vinrock> fuck new england
18:36 < vinrock> definitely too cold
18:37 < ebol4> it doesn't even get below 0 here
18:37 < Markdown1_> think about Canada weather :P
18:37 <+NinjaStyle> im still trying to find the perfect climate
18:37 <+NinjaStyle> i think socal has it
18:37 < khelpw> Never been to Deland?
18:37 < ebol4> oregon is perfect in every way
18:37 < vinrock> probablyu driven through but havent visited
18:37 < khelpw> DeLand is very rednecky. Got a friend there who has a venomous reptile facility.
18:37 < Markdown1_> NorCal that is :P
18:37 < vinrock> hah
18:37 < vader-> Man I'm cracking myself up that I ordered a tire from amazon
18:37 < admiralspark> So
18:38 < vinrock> yeah its close to new smyrna which is kinda rednecky too
18:38 < Markdown1_> vader- thats nothing abnormal
18:38 < admiralspark> when did Cisco drop being a vmware supported switching platform
18:38 < admiralspark> they have dell, hp, juniper, brocade, but not cisco now
18:38 < admiralspark> damnit
18:38 < vinrock> i dont mind rednecky shit, just not the deep south bible belt kinda rednecky
18:38 <+NinjaStyle> weird
18:38 <+NinjaStyle> admiralspark:
18:38 < khelpw> Yeah, south of Daytona, Port Orange, Holly Hill (AKA Holy Hell by locals) can get to be like some of the better episodes of cops
18:38 <+ihre> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uD20A7n68 i've heard wyoming is the place to be
18:38 < Markdown1_> VMWare is owned by Dell now.
18:38 < khelpw> vinrock: my high school in florida shared its parking lot with a church, and had 2 more across the street.
18:38 < Heresiarch> vinrock: you have to get really central (or north) in FL for the bible belt rednecks.
18:38 < steevo> vinrock, what's your problem?
18:38 < admiralspark> NinjaStyle: what I really wanted was the "how vmware ha works so I buy the right switches" guide
18:38 < vinrock> im more of a fan of the gulf coast from naples to tampa
18:39 < khelpw> Heresiarch: no you don't
18:39 < vinrock> and ofc the keys
18:39 < vader-> I know but I remember when amazon was where I got my college text books hehe
18:39 <@cryptic1> is there an issue?
18:39 < Heresiarch> khelpw: Lakeland counts. :)
18:39 < vinrock> sup steveo
18:39 < khelpw> vinrock: the local boy scout troop used to meet at the drive-in church.
18:39 < Markdown1_> move to Louisiana or Alabama :P
18:39 <+ihre> cryptic1: yes, your tps reports are late ... again
18:39 < khelpw> we'll put it that way. Also: there was a drive-in church
18:39 < vader-> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kfTW1jFA/Screenshot_20180531-123824.jpg
18:39 < Markdown1_> drive in what?
18:39 < vinrock> hereisarch: ive spent a lot of time in the bible belt on business
18:39 < vader-> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ucIBeOhF/Screenshot_20180531-123824.jpg
18:39 < vinrock> deep deep alabama, mississippi, georgia, etc
18:39 < khelpw> It's like a drive in movie theater, just a church.
18:39 < steevo> vinrock, I live in "the deep south bible belt kinda rednecky" and I love it here
18:40 <@cryptic1> ihre they always are
18:40 < vinrock> im athiest af and it creeps me out man
18:40 < Heresiarch> vinrock: I'm sorry.
18:40 < Markdown1_> vinrock yep ikr :P
18:40 < vinrock> steevo where about?
18:40 <+ihre> cryptic1: i think we have to schedule a talk with bob and bob
18:40 <+NinjaStyle> vinrock: i'm there next week
18:40 < vinrock> one of my favorite towns no joke is dothan, al
18:40 < Markdown1_> so Bob is Vegan?
18:40 < Markdown1_> ^ /s
18:40 <@cryptic1> ihre i hope not
18:41 <+NinjaStyle> vinrock: i am going to columbus ga next week
18:41 < steevo> vinrock, southwest MO. most people don't count it as south, but it's a lot more south than anything else. maybe mid-west-y south
18:41 < vinrock> oh thats not what im talking about steevo
18:41 < JFDkthx> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
18:41 < JFDkthx> you DomLS3
18:41 < JFDkthx> u shit
18:41 < vinrock> you need to see the actual bible belt in the southeastern states
18:41 <+NinjaStyle> DomLS3: yeah fuck you
18:41 < steevo> vinrock, I have, been there quite a few times
18:42 < JFDkthx> NinjaStyle: ++
18:42 < JFDkthx> we should make a new holiday
18:42 < JFDkthx> where everytime DomLS3 says something we all tell him to fuck off.
18:42 <+NinjaStyle> the most south i have been to was tx / oklahoma
18:43 <+NinjaStyle> ive never been in the real south
18:43 < JFDkthx> heres a tip
18:43 < JFDkthx> its not much different from the north
18:43 < JFDkthx> same shitty roads
18:43 < JFDkthx> same shitty people
18:43 < JFDkthx> we're all shitty americans on this blessed day
18:43 <+NinjaStyle> well they all are religious though
18:43 < vinrock> well ok so here's what i dont like about it then:  all the dry towns and counties full of fast food places because no chain restaurants can open since they all have bars; the police that seems to be on a fucking RAMPAGE, the self-segregation which i thought was odd af., all the jesus stuff being thrown in your face left and right
18:44 < corn266> JFDkthx: you gonna show me around denver if I fly out this weekend
18:44 < JFDkthx> NinjaStyle: and northerners worhsip cock
18:44 < JFDkthx> no difference
18:44 < JFDkthx> corn266: im not in colorado
18:44 < JFDkthx> sorry bub
18:44 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: i live in denver you cunt
18:44 < JFDkthx> but
18:44 < JFDkthx> if you come to new york
18:44 < vinrock> and i didnt just visit the south once, i spent 5 years broadcasting heavy equipment auctions online and was down there in small towns for weeks at a time for most of the year
18:44 < JFDkthx> i still wont show you aronud.
18:44 < JFDkthx> because i dont go anywhere
18:45 < JFDkthx> i am a Q U I E N T E S S E N T I A L G A M E R
18:45 < gnupluslinux> vinrock what are you on about this time
18:45 < Heresiarch> vinrock: ...live broadcasting + online bids?
18:45 < steevo> vinrock, I can see how that would make you uncomfortable. I personally vastly prefer it to what goes on in pretty much any big city (1m+)
18:45 < vinrock> bible belt
18:45 < vinrock> oh im not a fan of big cities either
18:45 < vinrock> theyre fun to visit here n there thats it
18:45 < vinrock> dont get me wrong, i absolutely love the south and the people down there
18:46 < corn266> NinjaStyle: where do you go hiking?
18:46 < vinrock> its specifically the bible belt that bugs me
18:46 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: how long are you here?
18:46 < vinrock> hereisarch:  yup
18:46 < JFDkthx> ive never been in a town more religious than the founding location of LDS
18:46 < JFDkthx> and thats in new york
18:46 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: if youre staying in the denver area, i would suggest going to boulder
18:46 < JFDkthx> the south has nothing on it.
18:46 < vinrock> worked for a startup broadcasting live auctions and taking proxy bids from buyers around the globe
18:46 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: there are a lot of hiking trails there and its pretty
18:46 < vinrock> i was tech director and would travel to all the auctions making sure was being done right
18:47 < corn266> I'm thinking leaving here around 7pm tomorrow and getting back around 7pm on sunday
18:47 < Heresiarch> vinrock: ...check pm.
18:48 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: i say go hike in boulder, hit a brewery after, then check out denver
18:48 < vinrock> i just booked my flight to boulder in september
18:48 < vinrock> woot
18:48 < vinrock> gona get SO HIGE
18:48 < vinrock> er
18:48 < corn266> Also some recreational activities available in boulder?
18:48 < vinrock> HIGH
18:48 < corn266> what vinrock said
18:48 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: there is weed everywhere in boulder and denver
18:48 < vinrock> oh youre heading to boulder?
18:49 < vinrock> tons of great outdoors stuff
18:49 < vinrock> not far from red rock
18:49 <+NinjaStyle> honestly the red rocks hike is meh
18:49 < vinrock> its something awesome to see if youve never before
18:49 <+NinjaStyle> i would suggest hiking boulder unless you wanna actually go in to the mountains
18:49 <+NinjaStyle> boulder or eldorado or somewhere in that area
18:50 < vinrock> yeah thats probably what im gona spend most of my free time doing, hiking
18:50 < corn266> I'm not looking for something more than 4miles, otherwise I'd stay here and hang out at Shenandoah
18:50 < steevo> 11 mile is the best place in CO
18:50 < vinrock> also gona check out some of the little mining towns in the mountains
18:50 < vinrock> maybe check out pikes peak since they paved the whole thing and ruined it
18:50 <+NinjaStyle> vinrock: yeah colorado springs in nice too
18:50 < corn266> get their donuts and coffee vinrock
18:50 <+NinjaStyle> go check out garden of the gods and shit
18:50 < vinrock> im staying an extra day so i can fuck off all saturday into sunday
18:51 < corn266> garden of the gods is pretty meh
18:51 < corn266> imo
18:51 < steevo> NinjaStyle, garden of the gods kind of sucks
18:51 <+NinjaStyle> yeah its ok
18:51 <+NinjaStyle> cave of the winds also sucks
18:51 < vinrock> i just want wait to be blazin it while hiking and not having to hide it
18:51 <+NinjaStyle> but its a thing to do
18:52 <+NinjaStyle> vinrock: well
18:52 < khelpw> Garden of the gods looks like it'd be fun to climb
18:52 <+NinjaStyle> technically you cant smoke weed on national park land iirc
18:52 < vinrock> wat
18:52 <+NinjaStyle> legally
18:52 < vinrock> thats pure insanity
18:52 < khelpw> Yeah, federal law applies
18:52 < vinrock> man
18:52 < vinrock> :(
18:52 < khelpw> depends on the ranger though
18:52 <+NinjaStyle> but i mean you can, no one gives a fuck
18:52 < corn266> vinrock: hit a dab and call an uber
18:53 < vinrock> i wanted to hike out to dope places n smoke mad ganja
18:53 <+NinjaStyle> you can
18:53 < khelpw> I'm going out to Denver in September. Should be a good time.
18:53 <+NinjaStyle> just be discreet
18:53 < vinrock> i guess ill just wait til i see fellow bud smokers so i blend in
18:54 < vinrock> khelpw i'll be there from 9/12 to 9/16
18:54 < khelpw> 9/1-9/10 here.
18:54 < khelpw> Mostly just plan on hiking/climbing but I want to feel the area out to see if it's somewhere I could see myself living
18:55 < khelpw> I also want to check out the PNW
18:55 <+NinjaStyle> i know i am gonna meet khelpw, but lmk vinrock
18:55 < vinrock> oh you live out there?
18:55 < corn266> good lord gonna have to drive home to take a shit
18:55 <+NinjaStyle> vinrock: i live in denver
18:55 < vinrock> ah cool i'll let you know when im in the area
18:55 < khelpw> corn266: wrong. Always get paid to shit at work
18:55 < corn266> both bathrooms are in use and i gotta go
18:55 < vinrock> thats the worst
18:56 < corn266> ^^
18:56 < khelpw> Shit on the floor.
18:56 < khelpw> obvs.
18:56 < corn266> get shwiftyyy
18:57 < syere> vinrock: stop by a dispensary here, get a thc vape pen. since you aren't staying long, it'll be a upfront cost, but you wont have to buy a piece, they do not smell nearly as much, and you really wont get bothered with it if you take 10 steps off the trail
18:57 < vinrock> oh i need something stronger than a vape pen
18:58 < vinrock> we get the VapeRX pens here on the reg
18:58 < Hunterkll> vinrock, have you seen our channel butthole list?
18:58 < Hunterkll> https://hugebuttholes.com/
18:58 < Hunterkll> ^^^ NOW SSL ENABLED
18:58 < syere> They have some pretty strong ones here. You can just buy the top if you already have the bottom part.
18:58 <+NinjaStyle> vinrock: you can grab a cheap pipe or some prerolled
18:58 < vinrock> that is fantastic but why am i not on the butthole list
18:58 < vinrock> yeah thats what im lookin for is pre rolled
18:58 < Hunterkll> fine
18:58 < Hunterkll> i'll add you
18:58 < vinrock> i love the 2020 rolls
18:58 < vinrock> yay!
18:58 < khelpw> vinrock: don't listen to these plebs. Get some shatter and an oil rig. Don't fuck around
18:58 < vinrock> also gona try some edibles
18:59 < vinrock> definitely gona try some killer dabs
18:59 <+NinjaStyle> lol you can put shatter in a pipe if you want
18:59 <+NinjaStyle> like on top of flower
18:59 < khelpw> Are there "coffee shops" around Denver?
18:59 <+NinjaStyle> nothing yet that i know of
18:59 <+NinjaStyle> its legal now tho
18:59 < vinrock> YES I AM NOW A HUGE BUTTHOLE
19:00 < khelpw> I'm kinda surprised there aren't any 'clubs' or anything. LV kinda has that problem. It's legal, but not legal to use in public or at a hotel or anything
19:00 < Hunterkll> vinrock, i updated it even more
19:00 < Hunterkll> check again
19:00 < Hunterkll> its got NEW MARQUEE BEHAVIORS
19:00 < khelpw> So you can buy it no problem, but then nowhere to legally partake
19:00 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: jesus fuck. You've turned into felda.
19:01 < Heresiarch> All it needs now is that ear-shattering noise that's on felda's site.
19:01 < Hunterkll> nah fuck that
19:01 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, see, felda uses modern web development techniques
19:01 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, i'm limiting myself to what's in this book - "Platinum Edition - Using HTML4, XML, and Java 1.2" from 1992
19:01 < vinrock> you guys should start a new webring
19:01 < vinrock> the #reddit-sysadmin webring
19:01 < admiralspark> Then he wouldn't run pfsense? Hunterkll  :P
19:02 < admiralspark> jesus
19:02 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: ...you're really, *really* bored, aren't you.
19:02 < admiralspark> do we really need those days back?
19:02 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, dude. cocaine.support@cocainedealers.club is a valid email ;P
19:02 < ebol4> anyone else's mouth go a little numb when they eat the banana
19:02 < Hunterkll> I even have it set up with Dynamics 365 for CRM, field support administration, sales and marketing, and social media engagement
19:02 < steevo> admiralspark, better than a 10mb homepage on every single website with stupid hipster bullshit graphics
19:02 < Hunterkll> as well as Office 365 E3 with dial in teleconference lines and Skype for business meeting hosting support
19:03 < admiralspark> steevo: that one wordpress theme that has the picture scrolling in the background?
19:04 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: ...can't you do something that normal people do, like consulting or arms sales? Did you really have to dig into GeoCities-era web dev?
19:04 < steevo> admiralspark, I was thinking more of the thing where when you scroll down past their header image, instead of getting informative text you get more images that fill the page with marketing bullshit
19:04 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, IDK the damn book was on the floor stairing at me
19:04 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, also, i'm actually actively solving a work issue at the same time
19:04 < Hunterkll> so
19:04 < Hunterkll> oh nice
19:04 < scwizard> "With YAML, we found that beginners had a really hard time determining what the actual structure was, and ended up guessing more often than not whether to use a hyphen, colon, etc. in order to represent some configuration key."
19:04 < scwizard> uhhhhhhhh
19:04 < Hunterkll> my 1pm meeting was canceled
19:04 < scwizard> what?
19:05 < scwizard> this is why hashicorp justifies making another markup language
19:05 < scwizard> https://github.com/hashicorp/hcl
19:05 < scwizard> come on YAML is not that hard
19:05 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, you can buy the book on amazon! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/078971759X/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
19:05 < Heresiarch> scwizard: it's not wrong. YAML's a pain in the ass - though HCL isn't much better.
19:05 < Hunterkll> what
19:05 < scwizard> yaml is really intuitive
19:05 < Hunterkll> the newer version of the book
19:05 < scwizard> how is it a pain in the ass?
19:05 < Hunterkll> is only $4
19:05 < Hunterkll> free shipping
19:05 < Hunterkll> *buys*
19:05 < scwizard> the only thing that fucks me is when a tab sneaks its way in there
19:05 < Hunterkll> OWAH
19:05 < Hunterkll> it has ASP and shit in it, and perl
19:05 < Hunterkll> wish i had this when i was 10
19:06 < Hatter> NinjaStyle: does your frequent drug use have an effect on your job performance?
19:06 < Heresiarch> scwizard: spacing requirements differ between interpreters, list vs dict isn't necessarily easy to grok at first sight, and some apps *cough*ansible*cough* tend to bastardize bits of YAML in their own way.
19:07 <@cryptic1> s/use/abuse ;P
19:07 <+NinjaStyle> Hatter: i dont use drugs really
19:07 <@cryptic1> Hatter, its the only way he can see the code
19:07 <@cryptic1> everything is just 1s and 0s to NinjaStyle
19:07 < Hatter> it was a serious question
19:07 <+NinjaStyle> Hatter: im serious
19:07 < derpingit> whadap everybody!
19:07 < scwizard> i really don't think it's that bad
19:07 <@cryptic1> I am not serious
19:07 <+NinjaStyle> i smoke weed maybe once every month
19:07 < scwizard> and the solution isn't to fucking roll your own markup language
19:07 <+NinjaStyle> at most
19:08 < Heresiarch> scwizard: it is if you're hashi.
19:08 < scwizard> :(
19:08 <+NinjaStyle> when i was younger i definitely smoked more
19:08 < scwizard> why did you stop the wake and bake
19:08 < vinrock> god i used to take bongrips first thing in the morning
19:08 < scwizard> you can def afford it now
19:09 < scwizard> i guess this is a question for vinrock and NinjaStyle now
19:09 < Heresiarch> YAML is nice if you have a good editor/linter. Just writing it, without those tools, is really obnoxious to start out.
19:09 < scwizard> "aws_rds_cluster_instance.big_kahuna: Still creating... (6m50s elapsed)" why does this shit take so long?
19:09 <+NinjaStyle> i just dont like being high all the time
19:09 < vinrock> ^
19:09 < vinrock> when i was high so often that being sober was more of a thrill i startd cutting back
19:10 <+NinjaStyle> i pretty much only smoke when friends visit anymore
19:10 < scwizard> if i had cancer or something
19:10 < scwizard> i'd totally be down for being high all the time
19:10 < scwizard> thank god i don't though
19:10 < vinrock> oh if i had cancer fuck yeah i would be
19:10 < vinrock> id break out the grav bong for that
19:11 <+NinjaStyle> it was funny when i got my job though, they told me this was the first remote worker they have hired in colorado
19:12 <+NinjaStyle> they told me they dont care if it comes up positive for marijuana
19:12 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: how on earth do you deal with the shitty indentation style??
19:12 <+NinjaStyle> it came up clean, but i thought it was funny
19:12 < admiralspark> I hate having to 'tab tab, del del del'
19:12 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: VSC has really nice plugins. :)
19:13 < admiralspark> I wish vsc could mount files remotely on my ansible box ;)
19:13 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: ...you mean you don't have a git repo?
19:14 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: I do, but I edit and push on the ansible box, it's a local vm to my 'workstation'
19:14 < admiralspark> so git pull -all, open file in vsc, edit, save file, git add/git commit/git push, then ssh to box, git pull all, run
19:14 < admiralspark> when doing one line config changes
19:14 < admiralspark> sucks
19:14 < corn266> So NinjaStyle you gonna smoke with vinrock and I if we go up there?
19:14 < admiralspark> my test and prod are different inventory files on the same box and repo
19:14 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: motherofgod.jpg
19:14 < vader-> any more remote jobs :-)
19:14 < ebol4> write an ansible playbook that does all the git stuff
19:15 < ebol4> get stuck in an infinite loop of yaml and git
19:15 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: so instead I edit with vim on the ansible box and I'm all good ;)
19:15 < admiralspark> only one case of push/pull
19:15 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: you can set up a post-receive hook to ssh to your ansible box and git pull...or if you can, spin up an AWX box.
19:16 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: lol maybe
19:16 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: holy shit there's a Remote VSCode plugin! Oh, yeah, I thought about scripting it but meh. And AWX was super outdated when I built it originally
19:16 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: try it now. It's pretty sick.
19:16 < Heresiarch> (AWX)
19:17 < admiralspark> no no, I mean when I built it four months ago, it was super garbage looking compared to tower, and half the documentation on the web didn't match it because apparently there's a different branch somewhere
19:17 < admiralspark> hmmm
19:17 < admiralspark> do you use the docker build? I was also installing direct on Centos 7
19:17 < Heresiarch> AWX:Tower::Fedora:RHEL
19:18 < scwizard> aws_rds_cluster_instance.big_kahuna: Still creating... (15m50s elapsed) zzzzzzzzzzzzz
19:18 < scwizard> i opened a ticket lol
19:18 < scwizard> an instance should not be in the "creating" state for 15 minutes
19:18 < admiralspark> I'm aware :P but the version in the git repo is behind Tower
19:18 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: yeah. I ended up writing an ansible role to copy up an inventory file and use the existing docker-based installer.
19:18 < admiralspark> hmmmm
19:18 < admiralspark> maybe I'll try it again
19:19 <+ihre> scwizard: they definitely will w/ terraform
19:19 <+ihre> its not uncommon for initial creation to wait ~20m
19:19 < scwizard> whyyy
19:19 < scwizard> tho
19:19 <+ihre> freaked me out the first couple of times as well
19:19 < Heresiarch> scwizard: depends on what all you're doing. If it's a restore from snap, or an upgrade, or an HA pair, it'll take a while to set up initially.
19:20 <+ihre> well, tbf, its a dedicated coffee break to restore some of your sanity
19:21 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: just be aware - if you're building on ubuntu bionic, that only the edge channel is availble on the docker repo.
19:21 < admiralspark> Centos 7 ;)
19:21 < Heresiarch> ah, perfect.
19:21 < admiralspark> We use enterprise OS's here :P
19:21 < admiralspark> but yeah, sounds good.
19:22 < scwizard> Heresiarch: it's not it's just a regular old database
19:22 < scwizard> and it didn't tkae nearly this long last time
19:23 < Heresiarch> scwizard: us-east-1 ?
19:24 < scwizard> yeah
19:24 < Heresiarch> scwizard: also time of day. Spinning up new resources on us-east-1, in the afternoon (ET) tends to be slower.
19:26 <@cryptic1> the cloud is never slow
19:26 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
19:26 <@cryptic1> D:
19:26 < Heresiarch> rekt
19:34 < FenJai> Has anyone seen these types of errors when running clonezilla ?
19:34 < FenJai> https://imgur.com/a/TPt7x1i
19:35 < FenJai> The timer is progressing so Im not sure if its fine or not
19:35 < MillerBoss> Looks like hardware error :P Do a memtest?
19:35 < asimon> Is it friday afternoon yet
19:36 < corn266> let's check asimon
19:36 < corn266> `yt friday
19:36 < asimon> I guess not :(
19:36 < admiralspark> is clonezilla like Fog but with a poorer UI?
19:36 < MillerBoss> Or check your clonezilla install FenJai?
19:36 < corn266> FenJai: how many times has that occured?
19:37 < derpingit> MillerBoss clonezilla is the og
19:37 <+NinjaStyle> admiralspark: kinnda
19:37 < corn266> derpingit: dd is the og
19:37 < derpingit> ghost is og af
19:37 < MillerBoss> https://www.google.com/search?q=clonezilla+mce+hardware+error
19:37 < MillerBoss> Tons of results there
19:38 < MillerBoss> MCE is Machine Check Exceptions
19:38 < MillerBoss> Memory errors or Error Correction Code (ECC) problems
19:38 < MillerBoss> Inadequate cooling / processor over-heating
19:38 < MillerBoss> System bus errors
19:38 < MillerBoss> Cache errors in the processor or hardware
19:38 < FenJai> https://imgur.com/a/fV1OuO7
19:38 < MillerBoss> So I would not trust that image FenJai
19:38 < derpingit> fucking hell, ghost/cz/fog are
19:38 < FenJai> Even if it passes a checksum MillerBoss ?
19:39 < MillerBoss> I wouldn't. Its fairly clear you have some type of error CloneZilla is kicking out
19:39 < FenJai> Cock
19:39 < MillerBoss> piss
19:39 < MillerBoss> CPU fan running?
19:40 < FenJai> Yeah I can hear it ramping up a bit
19:40 < FenJai> Though its one opf those fancy ultrbooks so it wouldnt suprise me if it was heating up a little bit
19:40 < MillerBoss> Take the drive and put it in a machine to clone then
19:41 < MillerBoss> That will eliminate the laptop being the issue
19:41 < FenJai> Its an nvme and I dont ahve an adaptor
19:41 < corn266> FenJai: looks like your fender got into a bender
19:42 < MillerBoss> FenJai 👉 May I suggest to invest in one of these then https://www.amazon.com/SIIG-NGFF-NVME-PCIe-Adapter/dp/B00YT6YV3I/
19:42 < MillerBoss> Or something like https://www.amazon.com/ELUTENG-Housing-Adapter-Support-Enclosure/dp/B07BDF8J93 but make sure you get the one with the correct key
19:43 < Casteil> yeah, what sucks is that you can't NVMe->USB
19:43 < MillerBoss> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2#Form_factors_and_keying
19:43 < MillerBoss> Sure you can
19:43 < Casteil> makes cloning/upgrading a lot of NVMe laptops a pain in the ass now
19:43 < MillerBoss> Why can't you?
19:44 < Casteil> you can do sata m.2 -> usb but not NVMe m.2
19:44 < MillerBoss> Why can't you?
19:44 < MillerBoss> What is NVMe M.2?
19:45 < MillerBoss> M.2 is the slot. I assume you mean the key type
19:45 < Casteil> MillerBoss: just try to find an NVMe compatible USB adapter
19:47 < Casteil> short story, can't address NVMe drives over USB
19:48 < Casteil> there's surprisingly little information available on the topic too
19:48 < MillerBoss> So M.2 M key, Commonly called NVMe M.2, http://eshop.sintech.cn/m2-ngff-pcie-ssd-to-usb-30-adapter-with-case-p-1067.html
19:54 < Hatter> I've been in a really bitchy and frustrated mood today
19:55 < DomLS3> Hatter: That's everyday
19:55 < corn266> You quit smoking too?
19:55 < MillerBoss> There is actually a lot of info. :P Just have to use terms that are not marketing or device terms. M.2 aka NGFF http://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=srchrtrv&DocNm=NGFF_Presentation&DocType=DS&DocLang=EN
19:55 < admiralspark> Would you say you've been a....mad Hatter
19:55 < Hatter> I really gave someone the business who maybe didn't quite deserve it
19:55 < MillerBoss>  Next Generation Form Factor
19:55 < DomLS3> "gave someone the business"
19:55 < DomLS3> ffs
19:55 < DomLS3> go now
19:55 < DomLS3> never return
19:55 < MillerBoss> M Key is for what we know of as NVMe devices.
19:56 < admiralspark> Hatter: it wasn't over vlan design was it?
19:56 < Hatter> no but that is a subject I'm passionate about
19:56 < admiralspark> and you're not in the greater Texas area are you?
19:56 < MillerBoss> SSD devices and Host I/Fs supported are PCIe with up to four lanes or SATA. And module card type = 2242, 2260, 2280, 22110
19:56 < admiralspark> lol
19:56 < admiralspark> dang
19:56 < Hatter> DomLS3: What's your problem with the way I talk?
19:57 < MillerBoss> http://www.mouser.com/catalog/specsheets/ENG_DS_1-1773702-1NGFFQRG-EN_0513_1-1773702-1_NGFF_QRG-EN.pdf
19:57 < corn266> DomLS3: What's your problem with the way I walk?
19:57 < DomLS3> pool players may ask.. "DomLS3: What's your problem with the way I chalk?"
19:57 < admiralspark> buddy of mine just got chewed out for suggesting a simple vlan design for their customer sites, the other sysadmin doing the chewing wants a separate vlan for servers, wireless, cameras, printers, phones, desktops, network devices with no firewall or ACL segregation
19:57 < admiralspark> for like 50 person companies
19:58 < MillerBoss> B and B/M keys are for "old style" cards. 3042, 2230, 2242, 2260, 2280 and 22110
19:58 < MillerBoss> So for example https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-250GB-MZ-V7E250BW/dp/B07BN5FJZQ is a 2280 module type
19:59 < Casteil> ...yeah....
19:59  * MillerBoss shrugs
19:59 < MillerBoss> Its confusing for sure
19:59 < Casteil> yeah not really
19:59 < MillerBoss> The NVMe interface (PCIe M.2 2280)
20:00 < MillerBoss> This is neat https://www.mouser.com/pdfdocs/JAESM3CardEdgeDatasheet.PDF
20:01 < Casteil> my point still stands, it's a pain in the ass to clone/upgrade laptops with NVMe drives
20:01 < gnupluslinux> Oh you know I did it and I feel fine. Nothing you can say is gonna change my mind. Waited and I waited the longest night. Nothing like the taste of sweet decline.
20:01 < gnupluslinux> Facebook.rb
20:01 < gnupluslinux> Casteil? Why cause you gotta unscrew the thing?
20:02 < Casteil> because you can't just use a USB adapter and clone to the bigger drive right on the laptop itself.
20:02 < Casteil> like you can with m.2 or 2.5" SATA SSDs
20:04 < scwizard> aws_rds_cluster_instance.big_kahuna: Still creating... (1h1m51s elapsed)
20:04 < scwizard> ok over 1 hour now
20:04 < scwizard> that can NOT be normal
20:04 < insecurity> merp, clort
20:04 < insecurity> sorry wrong plerf.
20:05 < gnupluslinux> Casteil yeah dont think they make adapters for that yet
20:06 < MillerBoss> Pain int he ass but not impossible.
20:06 < Casteil> gnupluslinux: exactly, and MillerBoss kept asking why not
20:06 < gnupluslinux> Probably soon enough though. Was similar enough going from ide to sata
20:06 < gnupluslinux> From what i can tell these m.2 to usb do sata and not nvme
20:07 < Casteil> gnupluslinux: correct
20:07 < gnupluslinux> Get a skullcanyon. 700 dolla nvme cloning masheen hhehehe
20:07 < MillerBoss> I linked to one that does M2. M key module 2280 which is uses the NVMe interface.
20:07 < MillerBoss> http://eshop.sintech.cn/m2-ngff-pcie-ssd-to-usb-30-adapter-with-case-p-1067.html
20:07 < MillerBoss> I am not saying USB 2. More like USB 3.0
20:07 < gnupluslinux> Not found
20:08 < gnupluslinux> I think i block .cn on my vpn
20:08 < Casteil> MillerBoss: get back to me when they're available through a reputable retailer..
20:08 < ThisIsSys> Sysprep been a bitch for anyone else? We had a base image with some of the Appx packages removed from the image using dism. Pre-syspreping the image runs okay. Post-sysprer, i see a lot of Appx packages getting removed and the calculator won't work.
20:08 < MillerBoss> https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3orW6XUYnnMJ:eshop.sintech.cn/m2-ngff-pcie-ssd-to-usb-30-adapter-with-case-p-1067.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us gnupluslinux
20:08 < asimon> ThisIsSys: yep its a bitch
20:08 < MillerBoss> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sintech-M-2-NGFF-PCIe-M-KEY-SSD-USB-3-0-External-Case-For-Samsung-XP941-MZHPU-/222150380853
20:09 < Casteil> I'm extremely skeptical that that would work for NVMe drives.
20:09 < MillerBoss> Happy now? Sold by vendor
20:09 < gnupluslinux> Ah something fucky i cant see shit not even google
20:10 < Casteil> MillerBoss: "Pls don't buy this external if your SSD is PCIe nVME SSD as following models:
20:10 < Casteil> "
20:10 < EdgyBOI> dang I kinda like doing this contractor work at this radio station in town
20:10 < MillerBoss> What following modules?
20:10 < EdgyBOI> they've never had IT so I'm like a Grand Wizard making their life amazing
20:10 < Casteil> read the fucking listing you linked
20:10 < Casteil> god damn MillerBoss
20:10 < gnupluslinux> Gawd damn
20:11 < MillerBoss> Triggered
20:11 < Casteil> not really, you're just fucking irritating
20:11 < MillerBoss> You'll have that
20:11 < ravioli> rekt
20:11 < corn266> Guys can we all just calm down and share some yiff
20:12 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1 back to work
20:15 < gnupluslinux> That was weird
20:15 < gnupluslinux> MillerBoss link me again?
20:15 < MillerBoss> To which sir?
20:15 < gnupluslinux> The m.2 adapter
20:16 < MillerBoss> http://eshop.sintech.cn/m2-ngff-pcie-ssd-to-usb-30-adapter-with-case-p-1067.html
20:16 < admiralspark> y'all need server jesus
20:16 < MrLemur> Anyone noticed the 1.1.1.1 dns service is down?
20:16 < rhqq> yeah
20:17 < gnupluslinux> Thats pretty neato
20:17 < rhqq> i switched to q9
20:17 < Casteil> heh
20:17 < gnupluslinux> MrLemur yeah i fell back to 8.8.8.8
20:17 < Casteil> probably getting ddos'd by some douchecrew
20:17 < gnupluslinux> Working now though it seems
20:17 < felda> still seems to be working for me
20:17 < felda> but maybe that's because i don't use FILTHY DNS
20:18 < MrLemur> As a service that was meant to be very realiable, it's made me switch back to Google for now.
20:18 < MillerBoss> You are right about that listing Casteil. But to me there is still missing information about the spec So you can do AHCI interface modules but not NVMe interface modules https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ztAAAOSwCtJaSgdX/s-l1600.jpg
20:18 < felda>  /topic HOST FILE MASTER RACE Only chat about how bad DNS is, is permitted
20:18 < MrLemur> Just remember all your IPv6 addresses. Should be taught in elementary school.
20:19 < scwizard> maybe it's because it's a read replica
20:19 < DomLS3> ... /topic PFSENSE IS GARBAGE
20:19 < scwizard> and it considers mirroring all the data part of the creation process
20:19 < technonerd> Cursive ipv6 in elementary school
20:19 < scwizard> bleh
20:19 < felda> DomLS3 ur life is HOT trash my dude
20:19 < Casteil> you're really just proving my point MillerBoss
20:19 < Casteil> <Casteil> yeah, what sucks is that you can't NVMe->USB
20:19 < Casteil> <MillerBoss> Sure you can
20:20 < MillerBoss> I don't care. In the end I am trying to figure this out with you instead of just saying uhh I doubt it would work. I want proof.
20:20 < MillerBoss> :)
20:20 <@killdash9> 1.1.1.1 got all the browsing data they needed to blackmail 1/2 the country. They don't need it any more.
20:20 < Casteil> http://m.memegen.com/c609z8.jpg
20:20 < DomLS3> felda: nah my guy because pfsense isn't in my life
20:20 < felda> this is like one of those things where you don't know that you don't know
20:20 < felda> gotta run to the bank and cash my check for my elite contracting work at the radio station
20:21 < MillerBoss> And I will admit when I am wrong, so waht?
20:21 < felda> making a hot $42
20:21 < admiralspark> MillerBoss: I think he just wants to argue, may not be worth the fight
20:21 < Casteil> MillerBoss: I didn't say "you can't NVMe -> USB" for no reason..
20:21 < admiralspark> also, o/
20:21 < gnupluslinux> MillerBoss is always wronf all the time
20:21 < MillerBoss> Just trying to share out loud here for discussion but not get in a bitching match. :)
20:21 < admiralspark> but if millerboss says he's always wrong and he's always wrong, is he right? therefore not always wrong?
20:21 < MrLemur> Apparently the DDoS systems kicked in when they shouldn't have.
20:21 < Casteil> admiralspark: he's the one that's arguing for the sake of arguing..
20:22 < MillerBoss> Absolutely gnupluslinux ;)
20:22 < Casteil> I made a statement and he disagreed yet he can't find proof I'm wrong..
20:22 < admiralspark> Casteil: you should be using a proper imaging system, not that hot garbage, /THREAD ;)
20:22 < Casteil> despite trying for 40 minutes now
20:23 < MillerBoss> Casteil 👉 You made a statement with nothing to back it up and that is OK> So I have been researching to see if that was the case because I felt that hard to believe. :)
20:23 < JFDkthx> MillerBoss: Casteil https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Enclosure-retractable-aluminum/dp/B075ZNCVJ5/?tag=linus21-20
20:23 < MillerBoss> But feel free to be triggered Casteil :)
20:23 < JFDkthx> are these what you're looking for?
20:24 < Casteil> JFDkthx: Please note: The MS09 is only designed for M.2 SATA SSD, it is not compatible with NVMe SSD.
20:24 < Casteil> I reiterate..  http://m.memegen.com/c609z8.jpg
20:24 < MillerBoss> Right JFDkthx You would think but I have since now learned that SATA is AHCI interface and it won't do NVMe interface
20:24 < MillerBoss> https://sata-io.org/sites/default/files/documents/NVMe%20and%20AHCI%20as%20SATA%20Express%20Interface%20Options%20-%20Whitepaper_.pdf
20:25 < ravioli> you're both retarded
20:25 < gnupluslinux> ravioli youre pasta
20:25 < MillerBoss> Thanks for your help ravioli
20:25 < MillerBoss> Very positive.
20:25 < ravioli> use the /ignore function
20:25 < ravioli> or just keep arguing like kids
20:25 < ravioli> albeit really really nerdy kids
20:25 < gnupluslinux> Keep arguinf
20:25 < admiralspark> ravioli: you're al dente
20:25 < MillerBoss> No one is arguing like kids. Thanks
20:25 < ravioli> abaddon: :*
20:25 < ravioli> er...
20:25 < gnupluslinux> I got a lot of popcorn to go through
20:25 < ravioli> admiralspark: :*
20:26 < Casteil> MillerBoss: "you made a statement with nothing to back it up" ...I'm not obligated to elaborate, but hey you're more than welcome to challenge the conclusion of something I previously attempted..
20:26 < admiralspark> ;)
20:26 < MillerBoss> I don't use the /ignore.
20:26 < ravioli> yeah i can see that
20:26 < MillerBoss> Holy shit. I said I was wrong Casteil.
20:26 < MillerBoss> lol
20:26 < JFDkthx> /ignore add ravioli * *
20:26 < ravioli> D:
20:26 < JFDkthx> whats that
20:26 < JFDkthx> cant hear you
20:27 < Casteil> in fact I'd have been happy if you found something promising for USB -> NVMe3
20:27 < admiralspark> all I see is *** where his name was
20:27 < Casteil> -3
20:27 < ravioli> something something hunter2
20:27 < MillerBoss> What the fuck do you think I was doing silly Casteil ?
20:27 < MillerBoss> ha ha
20:27 < ravioli> the ultimate sign of being triggered is using the word "triggered" and a smiley face :)
20:27 < JFDkthx> Casteil: MillerBoss can you two just hatefuck each other already so we dont have to put up with this
20:28 < gnupluslinux> ./ignore *@*
20:28 < gnupluslinux> Ah bliss
20:28 < JFDkthx> you wouldnt
20:28 < MillerBoss> I don't hate.
20:28 < MillerBoss> Thanks JFDkthx
20:28 < ravioli> why do you keep thanking people
20:28 < ravioli> thakns
20:28 < MillerBoss> I'll move along though
20:29 < ravioli> ok thanks
20:29 < JFDkthx> ur whale cum MillerBoss
20:29 < ravioli> JFDkthx: thanks
20:29 < ravioli> :)
20:29 < JFDkthx> ur whale cum ravioli
20:29 < ravioli> JFDkthx: :) thanks
20:29 < gnupluslinux> What about triggered 🍝
20:29 < JFDkthx> triggered xD
20:29 < Casteil> JFDkthx: go fuck yourself you whiny ass punk
20:29 < Casteil> ;)
20:29 < JFDkthx> Casteil: are you gencade?
20:29 < asimon> how about we all get back to work, the way things are supposed to be :(
20:29 < JFDkthx> asimon: no work
20:29 < MillerBoss> Why do I keep thanking people? I am not sure what you mean by saying "keep" but I can be thank full and use my manners, can't I ravioli ?
20:29 < JFDkthx> only meetings
20:29 < ravioli> MillerBoss: you're right, thanks
20:29 < JFDkthx> haha
20:29 < MillerBoss> ravioli	use the /ignore function ;)
20:29 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1 back2werkwerkwerk
20:30 < MillerBoss> You are welcome ravioli
20:30 < ravioli> i don't use the ignore function thanks
20:30 < JFDkthx> pspm get back to twerk
20:30 < gnupluslinux> Who is pspm
20:30 < Casteil> I've only ever been in this channel under this name :P
20:30 < JFDkthx> MillerBoss: you have to say ur whale cum
20:30 < MillerBoss> Hey me too, ravioli
20:30 < gnupluslinux> I am gnupluslinux
20:30 < ravioli> i am a bot
20:30 < JFDkthx> gnupluslinux: then i wasnt talking to you?
20:30 < MillerBoss> Oh oh, ur whale cum ravioli.
20:30 < Casteil> I'd like to go wrap up work from home tbh
20:31 < gnupluslinux> No u said twerk it mustve been me
20:31 < Casteil> only got another ~1.5h anyway
20:31 < JFDkthx> listen here
20:31 < JFDkthx> u shitty gnupluslinux
20:31 < gnupluslinux> ./twerkalicious
20:31 < JFDkthx> fake unix ass
20:31 < ravioli> :O
20:31 < gnupluslinux> How could you
20:31 < JFDkthx> anteater mouth lookin ass
20:32 < gnupluslinux> Lol anteater
20:32 < gnupluslinux> Peter the anteater
20:33 < corn266> anteater wtf
20:34 < DomLS3> ravioli doesn't ignore. He bants
20:34 < DomLS3> or +q's... loophole
20:34 < corn266> Hey JFDkthx how do y'all assure component authenticity on your machines
20:35 < corn266> ie. https://nvd.nist.gov/800-53/Rev4/control/SA-19
20:37 < ekaj> corn266: Do you have Nessus or any other type of vulnerability scanner, and a hardware/software baseline
20:38 < corn266> idk what Nessus is, but we use McAfee and it's a single laptop
20:38 < ekaj> McAfee for what, AV?
20:39 < JFDkthx> nessus is what the guvmint will have you install in your domain so they can scan your network.
20:39 < JFDkthx> vuln scans/compliance
20:39 < JFDkthx> im not sure about that one
20:39 < corn266> JFDkthx: it's a musa, not ISOL
20:39 <+ihre> yeah, nessus has built in compliance checks
20:39 < JFDkthx> if it's even directly responded to in our rmf
20:40 < corn266> we can't just use the SCAP Compliance Checker?
20:41 < ekaj> that doesn't tell you component authenticity
20:41 < JFDkthx> would nessus do that?
20:41 < ekaj> Nessus can, yes
20:41 <+ihre> if you'd write custom audit files, it certainly does
20:41 < ekaj> per the SA-19 control "detect counterfeit information system components (including hardware, software, and firmware)."
20:41 < JFDkthx> i didnt even know that
20:41 <+ihre> not sure if that works out of the box, but i guess you could create a custom scan which does fingerprinting as well
20:41 < JFDkthx> i havent personally used nessus since i deployed it in my last org
20:42 < ekaj> You don't need an audit file to satisfy SA-19, but you can use one to help with the software and firmware
20:42 <@cryptic1> Hatter now?
20:42 < corn266> I mean $2200/yr for a single system seems kinda steep
20:42 < Hatter> what
20:42 <@cryptic1> k I will
20:42 < ekaj> What does this system do?
20:42 < Hatter> oh right
20:42 < JFDkthx> corn266: if you can demonstrate that you're doing it by hand.
20:42 <+ihre> corn266: nessus doesnt scan a single system tho
20:42 < Hatter> thank you
20:42 < corn266> cryptic1: fuck off he's helping
20:42 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: i pay you good money in loot boxes
20:42 <@cryptic1> corn266, no can do
20:43 < ekaj> ihre Nessus can :p it just would be a waste to buy a licnese for that
20:43  * cryptic1 sets his sights on corn266ro
20:43 < Hatter> corn266: well tell him there's another one coming later
20:43 <+ihre> ekaj: that is exactly my point :p
20:43 <@cryptic1> muAHAHHA
20:43 < corn266> well thank god it's read only cryptic1
20:43 <@cryptic1> damn it
20:43 < ekaj> ihre: Unless he can use the free version to satisfy whatever he's doing
20:43 <@cryptic1> he is read only
20:43 < JFDkthx> corn266: everywhere i have been nessus has been government furnished
20:43 < corn266> wtf the guvmint gives out nessus keys?
20:43 < ekaj> nessus is free to all DoD entities
20:44 < corn266> what about contractors
20:44 <+ihre> nice, til
20:44 < corn266> working on behalf of DoD entities
20:44 < ekaj> it's free to the entities to use for their organization
20:44 < ekaj> so if a contractor is using it for that org, sure
20:44 < JFDkthx> ehhh....
20:44 < ekaj> but not just to take home and use willy nilly
20:44 < JFDkthx> corn266: talk to your customer.
20:45 < JFDkthx> is the easiest way to find out
20:45 < corn266> my customer can't even verify the risk level of the dataset they're providing us
20:45 < corn266> they won't know shit
20:45 < ekaj> or IA / cybersec department, this isn't really something an SA should be doing..
20:45 < JFDkthx> ur doe right?
20:45 <+ihre> there is a home version, but i assume it strictly prohibits commercial use :p in that case openVAS
20:45 < corn266> navsea
20:46 < ekaj> is this a laptop that will be connected to a main network every once in a while and then somewhere else for a month or whatever?
20:46 < corn266> no, air gapped for life
20:46 < ekaj> for what purpose?
20:46 < JFDkthx> loaded question aint it
20:46 < ekaj> how will it be patched, or will it?
20:47 < corn266> my boss thought it would be a trial authorization to do before our actual server
20:47 < corn266> patched via CD
20:47 < ekaj> what else is on that network?
20:48 < corn266> literally no network
20:48 < JFDkthx> are you trying to get your domain accreddited to attach to the GIG
20:48 < corn266> nope
20:48 < ekaj> so it's literally just a laptop running some software with nothing connected to it
20:48 < corn266> yep
20:48 < JFDkthx> so just a standalone hardened system
20:48 < corn266> don't forget the 10s of TB it will need to process as well, though
20:48 < JFDkthx> then dont worry about all the fancy software products
20:49 < JFDkthx> yeah but thats all on the system
20:49 < JFDkthx> and isnt going anywhere
20:49 < JFDkthx> becuase it will never be connected right
20:49 < coderphive> also
20:49 < ekaj> nothing will be removed from that system at any point in time?
20:49 < corn266> not to any network, but it will be connected via USB
20:49 < coderphive> don't forget about coderphive
20:49 < coderphive> rip
20:49 < JFDkthx> to another device/
20:49 < JFDkthx> ?
20:49 < JFDkthx> that is connected to a secure network?
20:50 < corn266> ekaj the SSDs when the contracts expire. JFDkthx no external USB drives
20:50 < corn266> the laptop only has 3x1TB .m2 drives
20:50 < JFDkthx> then those drives go off to the customer
20:50 < corn266> the externals? ofc. the internals will be shredded to a fine dust and snorted by hookers
20:50 < JFDkthx> yeah
20:50 < JFDkthx> so
20:50 < JFDkthx> all these directives
20:50 < JFDkthx> you do them by hand.
20:51 < coderphive> why not by foot?
20:51 < corn266> what like quarterly verify the authenticity of internal components by hand?
20:51 < JFDkthx> if you need to make sure something isnt counterfeit you check serials on products comapre to shipping manifests
20:51 < JFDkthx> check certs of products
20:51 < corn266> oh that's good
20:51 < JFDkthx> do quarterly inventory if you want
20:52 < ekaj> data should probably also be vulnerability scanned before going back to the production network
20:52 < JFDkthx> if nothing changes on the system then you dont really have to do anything
20:52 < JFDkthx> just make sure you have the policy in place to do the things
20:52 < ekaj> idk though, you're in an odd situation and probably can't tell us all the details
20:52 < corn266> ekaj we do software dev, so the og data will never be touched
20:52 < coderphive> What are you actually doing
20:52 <@JollyRgrs> sitting on his thumb
20:52 < JFDkthx> software dev
20:52 < JFDkthx> he just said that
20:52 < corn266> JollyRgrs ++
20:53 < coderphive> You don't need any of that junk for software dev
20:53 < corn266> coderphive standing up a system for classified processing / storage
20:53 < coderphive> government classified?
20:53 < corn266> yea
20:53 < coderphive> or you-classified
20:53 < coderphive> oh, that's a bitch
20:53 < coderphive> pay someone else
20:53 < JFDkthx> haha
20:53 < corn266> I am the someone else
20:53 < JFDkthx> thats dumb
20:53 < coderphive> GovCloud
20:54 < ekaj> he is correct tbh, that shouldn't be your job
20:54 < Casteil> frickin jira.. y u do .bq when I click 'paragraph quote' and wrap in {quote} tags for a paragraph quote when I click "block quote"
20:54 < corn266> also coderphive this is the day job and has nothing to do with the domain fronting question yesterday
20:54 <+ihre> because jira does things 'differently'
20:54 < ekaj> someone else at the government level should outline the data flow requirements
20:54 < JFDkthx> ekaj: he should have an ISSE/M/O
20:54 < JFDkthx> for sure
20:54 < coderphive> Yeah I wasn't correlating corn266
20:54 <+ihre> fuck their special markdown version
20:54 < ekaj> JFDkthx: that's what I was thinking the whole time lol
20:54 < coderphive> ihre I hate that
20:54 < corn266> JFDkthx: I am the ISSM, and the ISSO doesn't want to touch this with foot pole
20:54 < coderphive> ihre precisely why we moved to github
20:55 < ekaj> ISSM's can't be contractors
20:55 < JFDkthx> not true
20:55 < ekaj> rly?
20:55 < coderphive> ISSM?
20:55 < corn266> yea
20:55 < alazare619> This month on the internet "We have updated our security policy"
20:55 < corn266> I think you're thinking of the ISSP
20:55 <+ihre> independent super secret motherfucker
20:55 < coderphive> ooo
20:55 < coderphive> official
20:55 < coderphive> Bruh first of all
20:55 < coderphive> foreign nationals are contractors for the fed
20:55 < corn266> *inhales*
20:56 < coderphive> I'm pretty sure anyone can be
20:56 < corn266> unless their contract states NOFORN
20:56 < coderphive> as long as you don't rape, murder, or steal
20:56 < ibttis> yeah alazare619 15 emails telling me my personal data is sacred, and it's in the right hands, nothing bad shall happen to it
20:56 < JFDkthx> corn266: or itar
20:56 < coderphive> psh
20:56 < JFDkthx> no, not psh
20:56 < JFDkthx> dont be dum
20:56 < corn266> coderphive I'll report a bitch
20:56 < coderphive> you're dealing with classified data
20:56 < coderphive> not TS
20:56 < Casteil> don't get me wrong, I love jira and my life would suck without it
20:56 < JFDkthx> yeah
20:56 < JFDkthx> and FNs have their own network
20:56 < corn266> classified != confidential
20:56 < JFDkthx> it's fucking called NATO
20:57 < corn266> and it's a pain and a half
20:57 < Casteil> but doing if you click "Block quote" it should do .bq
20:57 < coderphive> idk, all I have to recall from is the military
20:57 < JFDkthx> and theres a big deal of shit that isnt applied to nato networks
20:57 < coderphive> literally had a FN browsing SIPR
20:57 < Casteil> and if you click "paragraph quote" it should wrap whatever you have selected in {quote} tags
20:57 < JFDkthx> yeah
20:57 < JFDkthx> coderphive: see above
20:57 < coderphive> no
20:57 < corn266> coderphive: see TEMPEST
20:57 < coderphive> SIPR = US
20:57 < ekaj> FN can't access SIPR, period
20:57 < coderphive> I forgot what the purple one was called
20:58 < corn266> NIPR?
20:58 < coderphive> anyway, yeah, he was on SIPR fam
20:58 < JFDkthx> no.
20:58 < corn266> then you should have reported that shit
20:58 < coderphive> meh
20:58 < JFDkthx> ekaj: you can have FNs on sipr if they are on contract. happened all the time overseas
20:58 < coderphive> for 20k a year, I wouldn't have known better
20:58 < JFDkthx> most of the time though, those sipr networks are rel/nato
20:59 < JFDkthx> so
20:59 < JFDkthx> rel/taliban
20:59 < JFDkthx> in reality.
20:59 < coderphive> there was a purple network
20:59 < corn266> JFDkthx: okay can you clarify something about NATO for me? I don't get when they're talking about other countries can only have the hardware or something
20:59 < coderphive> I forgot what it was called
20:59 < Casteil> anyone else have the new XPS 15 9570?
20:59 < Casteil> or even the 9560?
20:59 < coderphive> Casteil had one
20:59 < coderphive> 9560
21:00 < Casteil> had?
21:00 < JFDkthx> corn266: not sure.
21:00 < ekaj> .bofh
21:00 < coderphive> yeah, it was junk
21:00 < coderphive> I sold it
21:00 < Casteil> :x
21:00 < Casteil> junk how, just curious
21:00 < coderphive> I had the touchscreen version
21:00 < corn266> I'll have to find it again JFDkthx but it's not pressing or even that important
21:00 < coderphive> which never worked
21:00 < coderphive> and Ubuntu was a full LTS behind
21:00 < coderphive> and they wouldn't write current LTS drivers
21:00 < coderphive> so RIP
21:00 < Casteil> >linux
21:00 < Casteil> there's your fucking problem
21:01 < coderphive> Listen fam
21:01 < Casteil> scumbag linux neckbeards
21:01 < Casteil> >buy laptop
21:01 < coderphive> Linux is what makes the sun come up, SpaceX kiss the moon, and unicorns roam north dakota
21:01 < coderphive> so you can fuck right off
21:01 < Casteil> >call it junk because they put shitty linux on it and it doesn't work flawlessly
21:01 < Casteil> :P
21:01 < syere> jesus Casteil you just in a bad mood today?
21:02 < coderphive> kek
21:02 < coderphive> I was kidding
21:02 < Casteil> syere: come at me bro
21:02 < syere> the hell man, did a end user interrupt your morning coffee or something?
21:02 < coderphive> I want a laptop with all Thunderbolt 3 and a dope trackpad I can put Kubuntu on
21:02 < Casteil> XPS 9570 ;)
21:02 < Casteil> (this thing's a beast)
21:02 < corn266> coderphive: link me to an external hard drive with thunderbolt 3 connector?
21:02 < coderphive> syere he woke up a Windows user
21:03 < coderphive> ri[
21:03 < syere> ouch
21:03 < coderphive> https://www.amazon.com/G-Technology-G-DRIVE-Thunderbolt-USB-C-0G05363/dp/B071RNNH52
21:03 < coderphive> whew
21:03 < coderphive> hefty price
21:03 < Casteil> all thunderbolt shit is pretty expensive
21:04 < Casteil> :\
21:04 < coderphive> well duh
21:04 < coderphive> Superiority costs money
21:04 < Casteil> dell's thunderbolt docks are apparently pretty shitty according to a lot of people
21:04 < coderphive> Listen
21:04 < corn266> Thanks coderphive I'll suggest 2x8TB to my boss
21:04 < coderphive> I just found this out, which bummed me out
21:05 < coderphive> Thunderbolt specs actually vary by implementation
21:05 < Casteil> yep
21:05 < coderphive> and they can vary by load
21:05 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/Dell-3GMVT-Thunderbolt-Dock-black/dp/B06XN6XWD7 < pretty high number of mediocre/negative reviews
21:05 < coderphive> Slap a 4k monitor on it? Good. No DC out.
21:05 < Casteil> granted I suspect a lot of them are partially pebcak related
21:05 < coderphive> dude
21:05 < coderphive> Don't get the old style docks
21:05 < coderphive> They make a dock in a dongle
21:06 < coderphive> available at your local best buy
21:06 < Casteil> I need charging
21:06 < coderphive> treat yo self
21:06 < coderphive> and?
21:06 < coderphive> Mine has charging
21:06 < Casteil> do you know of a "best buy dongle dock" that can charge an XPS 15?
21:06 < coderphive> Check out j5create
21:07 < coderphive> they make mine
21:07 < Casteil> I don't think this thing will charge with anything less than a 90W adapter
21:07 < Casteil> it bitched and rejected a 45W XPS adapter earlier
21:07 < Sousapro> 90w USB-C
21:07 < Casteil> it bitched about my USB-C phone charger too saying it needed at least a 45W charger
21:07 < Sousapro> I herd you liek fires
21:08 < Casteil> that's the thing
21:08 < Sousapro> I've got a 90w USB-C brick at home
21:08 < Sousapro> that was for my Spectre 15
21:08 < Sousapro> but those are not cheap
21:08 < coderphive> https://www.bestbuy.com/site/j5create-2-port-usb-3-0-hub-with-hdmi-and-gigabit-ethernet-usb-type-c-adapter-silver/5602501.p?skuId=5602501&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwur7YBRA_EiwASXqIHA-KGVMDFkf2ZYsxhUYSIsY7AwZxGY8A1z2BZbdfzd62Bx8jtZOjlBoCTDoQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
21:08 < coderphive> Casteil
21:08 < coderphive> lit
21:08 <@cryptic1> did someone say ban?
21:08 <@cryptic1> who needs a bant?
21:08 < ebol4> not me
21:09 <@cryptic1> are you sure?
21:09 < Casteil> cryptic1: probably me
21:09 < Casteil> <3
21:09 < coderphive> It was me
21:09 < ebol4> well maybe
21:09 < Casteil> (come at me bro)
21:09 <+giant_it_burrit> does anyone else phish their own users here?
21:09 <@cryptic1> coderphive, I knew it!
21:09 < coderphive> Bring your worst daddy
21:09 < Hatter> giant_it_burrit: I do
21:10 <+giant_it_burrit> Hatter: what repercusions do you have for users who fail?
21:10 < Casteil> coderphive: skeptical about whether or not that would actually charge my 9570 via USB-C
21:10 < Casteil> plus, only one monitor hookup
21:10 < coderphive> It will
21:10 < coderphive> It charges my 15 inch MBP
21:10 < Hatter> giant_it_burrit: I inform their managers
21:10 < Hatter> that's about it really
21:10 < coderphive> What's your wattage?
21:11 < coderphive> Hatter so nothing gets done
21:11 <+giant_it_burrit> thats what im trying to figure out
21:11 <+giant_it_burrit> im adding teeth to mine
21:11 < Casteil> what's annoying is there's no universal standard for usb-c charging
21:11 < Hatter> we don't have many repeat offenders
21:11 <+giant_it_burrit> i have a lot
21:11 < coderphive> basically Hatter playing Phishing Commander when he's bored
21:11 < Casteil> it seems like devices all react differently to different chargers
21:11 <+giant_it_burrit> i get 35% of the company each time
21:11 <+giant_it_burrit> more or less
21:11 <+giant_it_burrit> we are going after bonuses
21:11 < coderphive> Casteil yes
21:11 < Hatter> giant_it_burrit: public humilation can sometimes be an effective motivator
21:12 < Hatter> although it hasn't worked on JFDkthx
21:12 <+giant_it_burrit> Hatter: i wanted a wall of shame
21:12 < Casteil> coderphive: one of the reviews.. "Tried it with a 13” Dell XPS 2 in 1 and got a message that it was not sufficiently charging the laptop.
21:12 < Casteil> "
21:12 < coderphive> wow
21:12 < coderphive> weird
21:12 < coderphive> I think my brick is 45W?
21:12 < coderphive> hold on
21:12 < Casteil> though some people say it works too
21:12 < Casteil> a 60W MIGHT charge
21:13 < Casteil> but the point of me getting a dock is to be able to hook up ethernet, two monitors, headphones and keep my logitech USB dongle in it
21:13 < GreyKite> giant_it_burrit: I actually had some come to me and ask how to report a phishing email on an internal phishing campaign and when I showed them it said "good job!"
21:13 < Sousapro> Casteil: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-type-c-wall-charger-black/5880500.p?skuId=5880500
21:13 < corn266> giant_it_burrit: push an always in front image of a crypto-thing saying it's encrypting their hard drive
21:13 <+giant_it_burrit> knowbe4?
21:13 < Casteil> hence the dell dock
21:14 < Sousapro> Casteil: I know it isn't a dock, but it will work and is from bestbuy lol
21:14 < coderphive> Mine's up to 80W
21:14 < Casteil> Sousapro: isn't max usb-c spec like 60W?
21:14 < coderphive> as low as 10W
21:14 < Casteil> oh 3.1 is up to 100W
21:14 < coderphive> inb4 dell sux
21:14 < corn266> dell sux
21:14 < coderphive> rip
21:15 <+giant_it_burrit> lies
21:15 < rhqq> dell support is not bad :P
21:15 < coderphive> How dare you question my integrity
21:15 < rhqq> i mean better than any other support i dealt with
21:15 < corn266> bruh this dell dock doesn't work with with linux
21:15 <+giant_it_burrit> which one
21:15 < coderphive> giant_it_burrit meet me in the town square
21:15 < Casteil> depends on the dell support level
21:15 < Sousapro> s/with with linux/at all
21:15  * giant_it_burrit shoots coderphive in the back
21:15 < corn266> coderphive: your integrity was calculated with md5
21:15 < Casteil> dell prosupport is pretty legit
21:16 < coderphive> rip
21:16 < Sousapro> I've used the Dell Thunderbolt Dock
21:16 < Casteil> consumer grade standard support kinda sucks
21:16 < syere> corn266: are you talking the USB dock for the dell laptops? they are HORRIBLE with linux
21:16 <+giant_it_burrit> i use it here
21:16 < coderphive> my integrity was cracked 10 years ago?
21:16 < Sousapro> it makes me want to destroy babies
21:16 < Casteil> Sousapro: lol
21:16 < Sousapro> coderphive: you'll never forget your first time with Vista
21:16 < corn266> syere: yea it's the "Dell Dual Video Docking Station D1000"
21:16 < syere> yep. took 4 hours to make it "work"
21:16 < coderphive> I remember my first time with ME
21:16 < Casteil> the one I'm looking at is the TB16 3GMVT
21:16 < corn266> I just told the devs to deal with it
21:17 < coderphive> ME was AIDS in the form of software
21:17 < coderphive> I wouldn't even call that software
21:17 < rhqq> um
21:17 < coderphive> it doesn't deserve such a title
21:17 < Casteil> want it for 2 monitors, ethernet, headphones, usb dongle and charging
21:17 < Sousapro> corn266: we were running these http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-business-thunderbolt-dock-tb16-with-180w-adapter/apd/452-bcnp/pc-accessories
21:17 < rhqq> win me was more stable to me than win 98se
21:17 < Casteil> all via just one thunderbolt hookup to my XPS
21:17 < rhqq> so yeah...
21:17 < asimon> Tb16's work pretty well for me
21:17 <+giant_it_burrit> Sousapro: i hve those
21:17 < Sousapro> Casteil: yup, I used it with 7280s
21:17 <+giant_it_burrit> People who fail will be put on a list to be sent to managers in addition to more training. We have been phished before and as a result, it cost the company money. If the wrong information was phished and client data was leaked, it could mean the end of the company. Everyone is responsible for security. If people want to enjoy the freedom they currently enjoy in the office then people need to be more vigilant.
21:17 <+giant_it_burrit> When in doubt, reach out to infrastructure.
21:17 < Sousapro> Casteil: worse in every way versus the eport docks
21:17 < corn266> Sousapro: oh god
21:17 <+giant_it_burrit> seem fair enough?
21:18 < coderphive> infrastructure?
21:18 < coderphive> That's a weird place
21:18 < Sousapro> the eport docks required no drivers and always worked unless someone destroyed the pins
21:18 < corn266> giant_it_burrit: you could just stab them
21:18 < Hatter> giant_it_burrit: I don't like the "end of the company" bit so much
21:18 < Sousapro> the new one requires sacrificing chickens
21:18 < Casteil> Sousapro: yeah, it's kind of a shame
21:18 < coderphive> You should call yourself social security giant_it_burrit
21:18 <+giant_it_burrit> Hatter: we are a smaller company. we would lose the biz and be done
21:18 < coderphive> since phishing is social engineering
21:19 < Casteil> a shame they shunned those for usb-c/thunderbolt docks that have turned out to be far less reliable
21:19 < coderphive> Yeah when you project a gloomy future due to an action or inaction people tend to tune out
21:19 < coderphive> imo
21:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> I need some professional advice lol
21:19 < Hatter> giant_it_burrit: are you doing much to increase awareness?
21:19 < rhqq> McDonaldsWiFi: its dns
21:19 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi you should quit
21:19 < insecurity> the only places i can't phish or call successfully have crazy training and consequences in place.
21:19 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi McDonalds is not a career
21:19 <+giant_it_burrit> they get trainign and phishing at least quarterly with yearly refreshers hatter
21:20 < Sousapro> McDonaldsWiFi: send resumes everywhere
21:20 < insecurity> last one i failed at, if the users failed their 4th phishing test the could be terminated.
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> I had an interview on tuesday last week.. they said they would try to decide by friday of last week, and if not they would try to decide by wednesday this week (holiday stuff is slownig em down)
21:20 < Sousapro> McDonaldsWiFi: isn't that the R-S motto?
21:20 < Hatter> that's more than I do
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> they are going to call either way
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> but
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> should i call them now and inquire?
21:20 < Heresiarch> McDonaldsWiFi: no.
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> would that seem desperate or annyoing
21:20 < Heresiarch> McDonaldsWiFi: yes.
21:20 < coderphive> Both
21:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> fml
21:20 < corn266> giant_it_burrit: just put these up around the office https://www.cdse.edu/resources/posters-cybersecurity.html
21:20 < rhqq> McDonaldsWiFi: maybe
21:20 < insecurity> aren't you good McDonaldsWiFi ? why do they have to take so long
21:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
21:21 < coderphive> McDonaldsWiFi Think about if you told a girl you'd go on a date Friday and she called Thursday and asked if you were still considering going on a date Friday
21:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> tbh the pos i applied for is exactly what i do now, same industry and everything
21:21 < Heresiarch> McDonaldsWiFi: if you don't hear from them in the timeframe, assume that you didn't get the position. Many prospective employers are nice enough to provide some level of follow-up, but it's by no means guaranteed.
21:21 < insecurity> maybe you suck and they're just trying to figure out how to put that nicely
21:21 < rhqq> what did you expect from this channel? XD
21:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> coderphive: no they were going to try to call friday of last week
21:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> coderphive: and they said they couldn't call friday they'd call wesdneday (yesterday)
21:21 < alazare619> weird day at the office
21:21 < alazare619> an employee in the area is retiring after 40 years
21:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> I didn't get a call either day, and they said they were going to call me and let me know if i gotit or not
21:22 < coderphive> Apply for Facebook
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> Heresiarch: but they said they were going to let everyone know if they got it or not
21:22 < insecurity> McDonaldsWiFi: maybe they retired after 40 yearse
21:22 < coderphive> Then shove it in their face
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
21:22 < alazare619> old CIO, and NEW CIO both in the same room, old Senior app specialist, one after him and the new one in the same room and multiple others
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> idk, tbh I'm a super good fit there xD
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> so what you're saying is
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> I should call
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
21:22 < coderphive> what is an app specialist
21:22 < coderphive> I'm lost
21:22 < corn266> McDonaldsWiFi: if they didn't follow up in 15 minutes you were legally hired
21:22 < Heresiarch> McDonaldsWiFi: irrelevant. If you didn't hear anything up to this point, then either they're delayed, or you didn't get the position. Act as though the second situation applies.
21:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> corn266: +++
21:22 < alazare619> our electronic med record system
21:23 < coderphive> so
21:23 < alazare619> their sole job is to know everything about it
21:23 < coderphive> tech support
21:23 < alazare619> no
21:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> Heresiarch: but they said they would let me know either way... its a smb so I figure they would be good on that
21:23 < alazare619> they do 0 tech
21:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> idk shit
21:23 < insecurity> disagree with Heresiarch. assume you are hired and arrive for work tomorrow.
21:23 < alazare619> they are strictly application only
21:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> Heresiarch: why you gotta be so professional xD
21:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
21:23 < coderphive> o
21:23 < alazare619> i do with the hardware
21:23 < alazare619> infrastructure and everything else
21:23 < coderphive> So they're not related in any way?
21:23 < coderphive> Strange
21:23 < Heresiarch> McDonaldsWiFi: you misspelled "mercenary". Biz don't stop on one company's wishes, yo.
21:23 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: either call tomorrow, or wait until Monday
21:24 < coderphive> Actually McDonaldsWiFi you should call now
21:24 <@JollyRgrs> wait until deadline and give a few days grace
21:24 < coderphive> and record the call
21:24 < alazare619> EMR support does support, he does implementation he is basically an ENGINEER for the application no end user support etc
21:24 < alazare619> now she
21:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: hmmm deadline was yesterday so ill give it til tomorrow
21:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
21:24 <@JollyRgrs> like i said :P either tomorrow or monday
21:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> sigh
21:24 <@JollyRgrs> i've been having to follow up on a job i applied for in Feb
21:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> shittt monday was my first choice earlier but I got so hyped up
21:24 < coderphive> alazare619 an engineer for an application?
21:24 <@JollyRgrs> it's still ongoing
21:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> i hate my fate being in someoen else's hands lol
21:25 < coderphive> I am so confused
21:25 < Hunterkll> I KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WITH THE DOMAIN BLOW.ZONE
21:25 < Heresiarch> McDonaldsWiFi: less seriously, chances are excellent that they're either half-assed this week (lots of folks take vac on short weeks), or they're still in process on candidates.
21:25 < Hunterkll> BILL.CLINTON@BLOW.ZONE
21:25 < Hunterkll> NEW EMAIL
21:25 < coderphive> JollyRgrs Sorry for dragging you along. You were not selected.
21:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> Heresiarch: they interviewed the last candidate last thursday, but yeah i bet the holiday really screwed them
21:25 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: ...twenty years ago called...
21:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> hell, I'M still catching up
21:25 < coderphive> JollyRgrs We went with Arun Rahmet
21:26 < coderphive> just so you know
21:26 < alazare619> coderphive:  you clearly dont work in the world of hospital IT
21:26 < alazare619> SAGE and EMR are so huge there is entire dedicated teams just for them
21:26 < abakedapplepie> Heresiarch: fuck that really was 20 years ago
21:26 < coderphive> alazare619 that's fine
21:27 < coderphive> alazare619 I get that now
21:27 < coderphive> alazare619 when you threw engineer in there it threw me off
21:27 < alazare619> so EMR has 3 support staff 1 engineer who implements and runs the upgrades etc, same for sage 3 support 1 engineer, then IT main help desk has net admin, sysadmin, and 3 support
21:27 < Heresiarch> abakedapplepie: ...yup. Old farts ftw. :D
21:27 < Sousapro> alazare619: I need to get on an EMR team
21:27 < alazare619> but we call them application specialists
21:28 < alazare619> they also have to have a background in sql too
21:28 < coderphive> Maybe when I retire I'll go work in a hospital
21:28 < Hunterkll> Heresiarch, eh, maybe cryptic1@meth.services is better
21:28 < Sousapro> alazare619: our EMR team at my last hospital job got paid double what I did, did half of the work and actually got some respect
21:28 < alazare619> there a mix of SA/DBA/ and engineer due to all the servers they have to manage implement take down flip db's etc
21:28 < coderphive> this coding shit is for the birds
21:28 < coderphive> amirite?
21:28 < abakedapplepie> Sousapro: thats because emr fucking sucks but is a necessary evil
21:28 < corn266> Hunterkll: have you finished with hugebuttholes.com yet
21:28 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: that works. :D
21:29 < SynMonger> coding? I work in IT, not insurance
21:29 < coderphive> kek
21:29 < Heresiarch> coderphive: bad trolling is bad.
21:29 < coderphive> I wasn't even trolling
21:29 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: have you set up JollyRgrs email address on your new domain
21:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> why isn't your nick ITphive?
21:29 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: when did GS_LOGICAL_DISK fresspace0 return in GB instead of MB?
21:29 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: whats respect?
21:30 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, when i banged your mom with cryptic1
21:30 < Sousapro> giant_it_burrit: what you're supposed to have for cryptic1
21:30 <@JollyRgrs> it has been a month or two probably
21:30 < coderphive> Heresiarch that actually sounds fun
21:30 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: ++
21:30 < corn266> coderphive: add something useful to my roulette game https://github.com/DAndrewMoore/roulette
21:30 <@JollyRgrs> i just finally got into digging why my report for computers with < 2GB RAM was suddently ALL my computers
21:30 < Heresiarch> coderphive: hospital IT?
21:30 <@JollyRgrs> and it was b/c i now should remove my 2 * 1024 and just make it "2"
21:30 < Sousapro> I actually liked hospital IT
21:31 < coderphive> Heresiarch yes
21:31 <@JollyRgrs> Sousapro: it was fun
21:31 < Sousapro> they just wouldn't let me out of the helpdesk
21:31 < Sousapro> so I had to GTFO
21:31 <@JollyRgrs> i had a repressive director
21:31 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: that's normal lol
21:31 < coderphive> corn266 I don't code in Java :(
21:31 <@JollyRgrs> not to this degree, Sousapro
21:31 < coderphive> I probably could, but I've never spent time to learn it
21:31 < Heresiarch> coderphive: meh. Most folks I've known who worked it said it was super stressful. All the joy of SMB-IT, but larger scale and lots of compliance bits.
21:31 < corn266> rip
21:31 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: like verbally abusive and treats you terrible?
21:31 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: depends on your role
21:31 < coderphive> Heresiarch automate the world
21:32 < coderphive> Then kick back
21:32 < Sousapro> but what if I automate Heresiarch
21:32 <@JollyRgrs> Sousapro: i asked for a raise (SCCM admin doing work for level 2.5 desktop support pay)
21:32 < coderphive> You won't dare though Sousapro
21:32 < Heresiarch> coderphive: ...tried it in a med-adjacent SaaS company. Didn't end well.
21:32 <@JollyRgrs> he brought in my week old new manager and laughed at me in the meeting telling me i don't do jack shit and jerk off all day
21:32 < coderphive> Heresiarch DC automation?
21:32 <@JollyRgrs> a year later, i go to leave and he's offering me more than what i asked for (~35% increase in pay)
21:32 < coderphive> Easy Peezy
21:33 < Heresiarch> coderphive: nah, just your basics of CD/CM/auditing.
21:33 < coderphive> oh
21:33 < coderphive> How different are they from PCI semantically?
21:33 < Heresiarch> you're not gonna find much SDDC sort of stuff in med.
21:34 < coderphive> That's what I'm saying, you go build it and bam
21:34 <@JollyRgrs> HIPPA is mostly "best efforts"
21:34 < coderphive> kick back
21:34 < felda> taskkill /f /im is bae
21:34 < Heresiarch> not much. HIPAA is similar, though there's less virus-y propagation of compliance (no "x is connected to y, so it must be compliant as well")
21:34 < Spr1ng> loic it
21:34 <@JollyRgrs> felda: i liked it, too
21:34 <@JollyRgrs> used it for my java update .bat script
21:34 < coderphive> Heresiarch there's a pattern for automating that then
21:34 < coderphive> Heresiarch LOG ALL THE THING
21:34 < coderphive> S
21:35 <@JollyRgrs> felda: but now you should be using get-process |stop-process
21:35 < felda> JollyRgrs is psexec the one that allows you to run commands on remote windows systems?
21:35 < Spr1ng> get outta here with your systemd drivel
21:35 < coderphive> excuse me
21:35 < coderphive> Spr1ng Would you like to fight?
21:35 < coderphive> js
21:35  * Spr1ng puts up her fists
21:35  * Heresiarch gets popcorn
21:35 < coderphive> Good
21:36 < coderphive> You meet me in the town square too
21:36 < coderphive> We'll duel
21:36 < coderphive> rip
21:36 < technonerd> Meet me on the block chain
21:36 < felda> JollyRgrs how does the get-process | stop-process command work?
21:36 < coderphive> Heresiarch do you work in med?
21:37 < coderphive> Heresiarch if so I can probably pass on our jobs for doing PCI
21:37 < Heresiarch> coderphive: used to, briefly.
21:37 < coderphive> but yeah, SDDC all the way
21:37 < xamithan> What is hippa ?
21:37 < coderphive> a healthcare law
21:37 < xamithan> No the healthcare law is hipaa
21:37 < coderphive> aka some garbage no one actually inspects or follows
21:37 < Heresiarch> Also. Systemd is a wonderful OS, but it needs a little trimming down in dependencies for its init system.
21:38 < coderphive> Heresiarch bad troll is bad
21:38  * Spr1ng calls out FREEEBSDEEE and runs to hide behind felda
21:38 < Heresiarch> coderphive: it's only bad if there's no truth to it. ;)
21:38 < coderphive> Well
21:38 < coderphive> We can just stand up a gist of all the people I need to fight now
21:39 < SynMonger> we have one of those in education, FERPA
21:39 <@cryptic1> WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
21:39 <@cryptic1> WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
21:39 <@cryptic1> WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
21:39 <@cryptic1> WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PRIVACY POLICY
21:39 < coderphive> https://gist.github.com/mattouille/ba6c2c70d965f6cc75372289658594fb
21:39  * Spr1ng unsubscribes from cryptic1
21:39 < SynMonger> it's one of those things every department uses to scare each other because nobody has read it well enough to call bullshit
21:39 < corn266> cryptic1: what did you update?
21:39 < Heresiarch> I'm not saying sysv init didn't need an overhaul, but systemd has gone a little Borg-y.
21:40 < Sousapro> cryptic1: what do you know about my mom?
21:40 < SynMonger> "you can't do that, it breaks FERPA!"
21:40 < coderphive> I have a question
21:40 < felda> cryptic1 un-ironically enjoyed Two Worlds
21:40 <@cryptic1> corn266, all your thoughts now belong to r/sysadmin
21:40 < Spr1ng> That is a travesty of a game
21:40 < corn266> Two Worlds was a good game fuck all y'all
21:40 < coderphive> So you know how Reddit doesn't let you delete your account or posts? How does that pass GDPR.
21:41 < Sousapro> coderphive: they definitely let you delete posts lol
21:41 < Sousapro> coderphive: to the point where reddit is useless long term
21:41 < coderphive> Not if they're too old
21:42 < coderphive> alright, I need to get back to work
21:42 < Sousapro> 'this is my lubemonkey script that makes me a non-contributing member of reddit.'
21:42 < coderphive> bye dudes and dudettes
21:42 < Heresiarch> o7
21:42 <+NinjaStyle> So security am I right?
21:42 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: I had negotiated a 25k raise by the last day of my notice at $lastJob
21:43 < Spr1ng> woa
21:43 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: no one will give you a major raise these days until they realize how corncobbed they're going to be once you leave
21:43 < corn266> Yea NinjaStyle security is such a thing
21:43 < Sousapro> JollyRgrs: and then they will try to fire you 4 months later after having you train your replacement
21:43 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: for real
21:44 < corn266> "Is this my replacement?" "No we just want to know that you /really/ know what you're doing"
21:45 < Sousapro> ++
21:45 < Casteil> dear lord
21:45 < Sousapro> businesses to employees: zero day notice is fine.
21:45 < Casteil> sudden barrage of 9 new employee tickets
21:45 < Sousapro> employees to business: Zero Day Notice is the same as murdering children
21:45 <@cryptic1> who is having someone shadow?
21:45 <@cryptic1> one of you guys?
21:46 <+NinjaStyle> Do wut
21:46 < Spr1ng> Casteil: starting in 3 days right?
21:46 <@killdash9> If an employer tries to give you a retention raise after you give notice, never fucking take it. You were leaving for a reason
21:46 < technonerd> Starting yesterday
21:46 < Casteil> Spr1ng: how'd you know
21:47 < Sousapro> killdash9: the guilt trips they try to use though
21:47 < fuzzzerd> killdash9 I took it once. have to say it was worth it
21:47 < Casteil> literally all but one of them is starting this coming monday
21:47 < catbeard> killdash9: what if the reason was they weren't paying you enough
21:47 < Casteil> and the one that isn't started today.
21:47 < Casteil> thanks for the heads up, guy
21:47 <@killdash9> fuck them...if they can afford it now, they could afford it a year ago
21:47 < Sousapro> killdash9: especially when you had warned them about the market being a seller's market right now and how much you love working at job
21:47 < alazare619> killdash9:  my thoughts exactly
21:47 < Spr1ng> because this is the way of HR, it's their fu
21:47 < Sousapro> killdash9: I got role model on my annual and like $.50 an hour raise
21:47 < alazare619> and depending on the level of toxicity i've seen guys take it and get canned after they found someone to take your job
21:48 < alazare619> just out of spite
21:48 <@killdash9> they'll give you that increase only long enough to figure out how to replace you. Seen it happen more than once
21:48 < alazare619> kinda like a "FUCK ME?! NO I FUCK YOU!!"
21:48 < alazare619> then you didn't take the job and now you are out of a job
21:48 < Casteil> killdash9: Yeah, frankly.. if your employer cares so little that they don't think about you/your well being until they get wind of you leaving.. ...yeah
21:49 < fuzzzerd> killdash9, that's always a risk though.
21:49 < Casteil> killdash9: how much was the retention raise/
21:49 < Sousapro> I would only accept a retention bonus
21:49 < corn266> cryptic1: I'm shadowing you for the next few months
21:49 < Sousapro> and it would need to be $$$$$
21:49 <@cryptic1> corn266, shit
21:49 <@cryptic1> welp there goes my job
21:50 < alazare619> i've given an employeer notice that i was looking for a diffrent job before they tried a few diffrent options but it wasnt in budget for what i was asking
21:50 <+NinjaStyle> cryptic1: I'll hire you to clean my room if u get fired
21:50 < alazare619> and they even let me find a job while on the clock because they really wished i could stay
21:50 < Sousapro> alazare619: I've stopped doing that
21:50 < Casteil> at any rate, I'd never use the threat of leaving as an attempt to get a raise, that's just bad news all around.. if I tell my employer I'm leaving, I'm leaving, and it's most likely for damn good reason
21:50 < Spr1ng> How do I search inside all files on a linux vm for references to an IP address in conf files that I need to update with a new IP?
21:50 < Sousapro> alazare619: several shady managers have beaten that out of me :(
21:50 < Sousapro> Spr1ng: sed
21:50 < alazare619> they then threw me a huge going away party and asked for me to PRN while they attempted to find someone to replace me
21:50 < sudo-corn266> chmod 777 cryptic1-RO
21:51 < Heresiarch> Spr1ng: grep -R <ip_address_to_change> /etc/*
21:51 < Sousapro> Spr1ng: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/16138/how-to-search-text-throughout-entire-file-system
21:51 < Sousapro> Heresiarch: ++
21:51 < Spr1ng> excellent, thank you =D
21:52 <+NinjaStyle> some jobs threatening to leave to get a raie is the culture
21:52 <@cryptic1> damn you corn266
21:52 <+NinjaStyle> raise*
21:56 <+ihre> Spr1ng: find / -type f -exec sed -i 's/1.1.1.1/2.2.2.2/g' {} \;
21:56 <+ihre> as root :p
21:58 <+ihre> find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -Hnr "1.1.1.1" is useful too :3
21:58 < corn266> ihre pull that cock out of your mouth
21:58 < rhqq> what are you doing here
21:59 < Alternity> as usual ask PFE is ms's best blog: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2013/05/05/how-domain-controllers-are-located-across-trusts/
21:59 < Alternity> very nice explanation
21:59 < Alternity> there is even a r/sysadmin shoutout in there from 2013
21:59 <+ihre> corn266: i dont work for the guvmint, you do
22:00 < corn266> fuck hyper-v this is a piece of shit
22:01 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: you're doing it wrong then
22:01 < corn266> probably
22:02 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: git gud
22:02 <+NinjaStyle> u ass
22:02 <+NinjaStyle> <3
22:03 < corn266> I'm trying qq
22:04 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: sorry for bullying you
22:06 <+ihre> You can file a complaint by sending a private message to christel.
22:11 < coderphive> NinjaStyle actually isn't a ninja
22:11 < coderphive> He's a gaisha
22:11 < corn266> sounds gai
22:11 < coderphive> got u corn266
22:11 < corn266> thx bruh
22:12 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive is actually a butt
22:12 < coderphive> I'd use libvrt over hyper-v any day
22:12 < coderphive> change my mind
22:12 < hethkar> trying to get an professional email with own, what kind options do guys try if yourname.com(not only .com but all famous domains) is not available ?
22:13 < corn266> I'd use oracle any day cause I can't get this virtual machine to actually show
22:13 < coderphive> You don't need yourname.com
22:13 < coderphive> Make it something cool sounding
22:13 < corn266> hethkar@superawesomedomain.biz
22:13 <+NinjaStyle> fartsandwich.io
22:13 < coderphive> Like 90% of my site is me making tutorials
22:14 < hethkar> corn266: lol
22:14 < corn266> hyper-v cannot connect to the virtual machine
22:14 < corn266> frick this isn't google
22:14 < coderphive> I've actually thought about branching my domain to reliabilityengineering.io and then having my personal domain just be my bio
22:14 < asimon> hethkar: what abotu yourname.pizza
22:14 <+NinjaStyle> i have likelymalware.com
22:14 < coderphive> ooo
22:14 < coderphive> That's pretty cool
22:14 < hethkar> why i ask is for putting it on resume :p
22:14 <+NinjaStyle> lol
22:15 < coderphive> hethkar I would not include my do
22:15 < coderphive> ignore that
22:15 < corn266> That's great NinjaStyle
22:15 < coderphive> hethkar what kind of content will be on your website?
22:16 < corn266> it's porn, but it utilizes blockchain technology(TM)
22:16 < Heresiarch> hethkar: as long as the domain name isn't too ridiculous, just running your mail out of your own domain will (slightly) differ you from the hordes on gmail/yahoo/etc.
22:16 <+NinjaStyle> i just use gmail
22:16 <+NinjaStyle> first.last@gmail.com
22:17 < coderphive> Heresiarch is theworldsucks.com acceptable?
22:17 <+NinjaStyle> for my resule
22:17 < hethkar> coderphive: it will be a blog if there is going to be a website(probably about linux,aws),  but right now the main intention is for resume purposes
22:17 <+NinjaStyle> resume*
22:17 < hethkar> Heresiarch: exactly why i want one
22:17 < Heresiarch> coderphive: might be, if you're looking for devops jobs with millenarian groups :)
22:17 < coderphive> hethkar so, I've been doing that on mattouille.com and recently I decided it would actually be better to separate my websites
22:17 < coderphive> hethkar just a thought
22:17 < hethkar> so was wondering what do the other sysadmins do it,
22:17 < coderphive> hethkar I used to own terminaladmin.com
22:17 <+ihre> as short as possible
22:18 < coderphive> go grab that
22:18 < hethkar> coderphive: heh sounds cool
22:18 < coderphive> hethkar it's available
22:19 < hethkar> coderphive: yea just checked
22:19 <+ihre> sounds like you're going to die soon tho
22:19 < hethkar> ihre: any reasons for keeping it short ?
22:19 < coderphive> Heresiarch don't you age bias me
22:19 <+ihre> 'yeah im an admin, im also terminally ill'
22:19 < coderphive> ^
22:20 < coderphive> ill as in cool
22:20 < Heresiarch> hey now, that just means that their insurance costs will be cheap.
22:20 < coderphive> jk many millennials annoy me
22:21 < coderphive> I'm like almost 30 though, so I'm barely a millennial
22:21 <+NinjaStyle> i wonder if any 3 letter .io domains are available
22:21 <+ihre> hethkar: just for the sake of having to type as few letters as possible, i have 4 digit/letter domains, personal preference, also helps when someone asks it over the phone or in person imo
22:22  * NinjaStyle looks at namecheap api
22:22 < hethkar> ihre: got it
22:22 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I have a vanity domain and use my email address on that domain for resume purposes. I think it helps to stand out from the gmail users.
22:22 < coderphive> wow
22:22 < coderphive> devops.consulting was available
22:22 < coderphive> I went to buy it and Google said "nah"
22:22 < AnimalFarmPig> It at least lets people know "Hey, this person knows how to buy a domain and get mail running on it"
22:22 < AnimalFarmPig> even if it's just shared hosting and I like the hosting provider handle mail
22:23 < AnimalFarmPig> s/like/let
22:23 <+ihre> inb4 you use directadmin for .... management purposes :^)
22:23 < AnimalFarmPig> I use whatever online.net provides :)
22:23 <+ihre> might still get you a job at a hoster/msp tho
22:23 <+ihre> but i'd rather bang my head against a wall..
22:25 < AnimalFarmPig> I've got shittysoft.com. I should get around to setting up a landing page.
22:25 < coderphive> dude
22:25 < coderphive> They need to ban domain traders
22:25 < coderphive> This is ridiculous
22:25 < coderphive> use a domain or lose it
22:25 < corn266> alright so the virtual machine shows in the summary window of hyper-v but I can't connect to it
22:26 < coderphive> lmao shittysoft
22:26 < AnimalFarmPig> but I'm lazy
22:26 < AnimalFarmPig> s/lazy/have other projects
22:26 < coderphive> I thought about rotating pictures of politicians on theworldsucks.com
22:26 < AnimalFarmPig> I think of domain name I want, buy it, then the actual project for that domain goes to the back of the queue and I don't do anything for a year or so
22:27 < coderphive> tbh running your own email is a fools errand
22:27 < coderphive> Google Apps baybay
22:28 < SynMonger> I have all my domain emails forward to gmail
22:28 <+ihre> meh, running postfix + dovecot is ez
22:28 < catbeard> ihre: so ez
22:28 < AnimalFarmPig> receiving mail is easy
22:28 < AnimalFarmPig> sending mail...
22:28 < AnimalFarmPig> (and actually having it be received on the other end)
22:30 < coderphive> NinjaStyle https://edward.io/io/three.html
22:30 < coderphive> AnimalFarmPig truth
22:30 <+ihre> i dont think i've ever had mail bounce, set everything up once w/ puppet and it'll run just fine
22:30 < corn266> no xxx.io ??
22:31 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: i do the same, i have an email that i use for personal and resumes that is my own domain (hosted with free grandfathered g suite)
22:31 <+ihre> once in a while test if everything is still ok with https://www.mail-tester.com/ and i'm good
22:31 <@JollyRgrs> esp. use it on resumes to let them know i'm not an idiot
22:31 < Spr1ng> thx ihre i got it :D
22:32 <+ihre> :)
22:32 < AnimalFarmPig> ihre: interesting. The times I've though, "I should run my own mail server!", it was enough of a hassle to get other mail servers to accept my mail that I decided not to persue it further
22:34 <+ihre> AnimalFarmPig: if you want the roles/profiles for it, send me a pm :p
22:34 < AnimalFarmPig> ihre: I'm happy enough to let my hosting provider handle it for me
22:34 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: a bunch of those seem to be taken
22:34 < coderphive> yeah I was just noticing that
22:35 <+NinjaStyle> im gonna just write a quick loop to do it using godaddy api
22:36 < hethkar> is it okay to use a ccTLD if you dont live in that region ? just thought about yourname.sh
22:36 < Heresiarch> sure
22:36 < alazare619> there is only 3 faces in my dept from when i orginally started out of 15
22:37 < coderphive> hethkar yes
22:37 < Heresiarch> folk do it all the time. Hell, .io is supposed to be for territories in the Indian Ocean.
22:37 < coderphive> ^
22:37 < coderphive> I heard the IO is pretty triggered about that too
22:38 < Heresiarch> before .io was a thing, folk loved using .cx (Christmas Island).
22:38 < hethkar> oh io is for indian ocean ?
22:38 < coderphive> yeap
22:38 < rhqq> hethkar: i use .cn
22:38 < rhqq> and .sh
22:38 < rhqq> even though im pl
22:38 < hethkar> i see
22:38 < rhqq> nothing really bad
22:39 <@killdash9> for email I use a .in as my name ends in 'in'. So my email is just my name
22:39 < coderphive> killdash9 lucky
22:39 < coderphive> There's no LE tld yet
22:40 < coderphive> also the weird thing about yourname.com is you basically have to use me@yourname.com
22:40 < coderphive> which kind of looks stupid imo
22:41 < hethkar> coderphive: ah
22:41 <@JollyRgrs> hethkar: first domain i ever got was for my medal of honor clan.... back then a .tk domain was FREE
22:41 <@killdash9> I also have an 'a' in my name allowing something like firstnamel@astna.me
22:42 <@JollyRgrs> killdash9: as cool as that might look... that's horrible to try and speak out to someone :P
22:42 < coderphive> that's kind of cool
22:42 < hethkar> haha
22:42 <@killdash9> JollyRgrs: oh, it's awful to say but looks cool on screen in print. :P
22:42 <@JollyRgrs> if yo udon't mess it up
22:42 <@JollyRgrs> (like you just did)
22:43 <@killdash9> hahaha
22:43 <@killdash9> well, I'm used to typing the real one, not the fake example above
22:43 <@JollyRgrs> haha
22:44 <+ihre> JollyRgrs: lol, .tk isnt free anymore ?
22:45 < Hunterkll> killdash9, reminds me of someone i met at a google event
22:45 < Hunterkll> having an 'a' in their name
22:45 < Hunterkll> aholeman@google.com was his email
22:45 < Hunterkll> >_X
22:46 < Hunterkll> killdash9, oh! check out this site i made -  https://www.hugebuttholes.com
22:46 < technonerd> He just liked holes
22:46 <@killdash9> my bestest email ever was 'firstname@redhat.com'. Just my first name. It was baller
22:46 < Hunterkll> lol
22:47 < coderphive> yeah but
22:47 < coderphive> it was at redhat.com
22:47 <@killdash9> later on they enforced flast@ but I was grandfathered
22:47 < coderphive> =|
22:47  * coderphive braces for impact
22:48 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: these are all stupid expensive
22:48 < Hunterkll> coderphive, i've updated my site! https://www.hugebuttholes.com/
22:48 <@killdash9> yeah, Red Hat fucked me and they suck but I wouldn't make the money I do now if not for my several year stint there.
22:48 < coderphive> NinjaStyle no joke
22:49 < coderphive> killdash9 I have a lot of friends that came from RH
22:49 < coderphive> I just like to rib people for it
22:49 < coderphive> bc deb fanboi
22:49 < coderphive> Hunterkll you would own that domain
22:50 <+NinjaStyle> also godaddy api is slow
22:50 < Casteil> huh
22:50 < Casteil> TIL of powercfg /sleepstudy
22:50 <@killdash9> I still have the red fedora they gave me at orientation. It's a prized possession.
22:50 < Casteil> was thinking my XPS 9570's standby mode wasn't working, but it was
22:50 < Hunterkll> lol
22:50 < coderphive> killdash9 that's pretty neat
22:50 < Casteil> "Modern standby" ..which is effectively indistinguishable from a monitor resuming from standby
22:50 <+ihre> NinjaStyle: slow and rate limited, just use fierce or something like that ;p
22:51 < Hunterkll> Casteil, oh, connected standby?
22:51 <+NinjaStyle> im not really checking dns, im checking for domain availability
22:51 < coderphive> idk why they'd rate limit either
22:51 < coderphive> They're just pulling from a DB
22:52 < coderphive> I don't think ICANN has actual API's
22:52 < Hunterkll> coderphive, what you don't like my website?
22:52 < Hunterkll> i even upgraded the butthole security with SSL !
22:52 < coderphive> https://czds.icann.org/en/help/api-access
22:52 < coderphive> I stand corrected.
22:52 < Hunterkll> heh
22:52 < Hunterkll> i have access to almost every tld in CZDS
22:53 < Hunterkll> i just did select all and put justification as a research project
22:53 < Hunterkll> :P
22:53 < coderphive> NinjaStyle just hit the source directly: https://czds.icann.org/en/user/register
22:53 < Hunterkll> coderphive, you do have to get approved for that shit
22:53 <+CheckYourSix> Seriously about to go off on one of the managers at work. If a government regulation states clear as day that something is forbidden, what more proof do you need that you can't fucking do it? God damn, some people are stupid
22:53 < coderphive> Hunterkll and?
22:53 < Hunterkll> coderphive, and it doesn't have all TLDs either
22:53 < Hunterkll> net/org aren't there, nor is com
22:53 < Hunterkll> i think
22:53 < Hunterkll> they're supposed to eventually
22:53 < Hunterkll> but not yet
22:54 < Hunterkll> zone file access for those isn't available through czds
22:54 <+NinjaStyle> why the fuck is the api returning domains as available that arent
22:54 < Hunterkll> still need to go through verisign for some of those
22:54 < catbeard> NinjaStyle: if it's any consolation, ResellerClub is returning not available for UK domains where Nominet says it's not registered
22:55 < coderphive> Someone thought this was a good thing for the IETF: https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-sheng-weirds-icann-rws-dnrd-01.html
22:56 < TheTinker86> weird. i still keep getting sent into the quarantine channel
22:56 < catbeard> cuz u dirty
22:56 < coderphive> Use SASL and that won't happen
22:56 < catbeard> ya someone tried to sasl login with my old nick
22:57 < catbeard> apparently can't be prevented, but old fellow will also need a .pem iirc
22:57 <+NinjaStyle> why?
22:57 < Hunterkll> catbeard, CONGRATS
22:57 <+NinjaStyle> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bgqHFvDO/image.png
22:57 < Hunterkll> YOU MADE THE LIST
22:58 < Hunterkll> catbeard, https://www.hugebuttholes.com/
22:58 < coderphive> wtf
22:58 < catbeard> como?
22:59 < coderphive> 650M?
22:59 < coderphive> who the fuck would pay that
22:59 < Hunterkll> lol
22:59 <+NinjaStyle> maybe its because they are 3 letters?
22:59 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, i think your price attribute confused coderphive
22:59 < Hunterkll> catbeard, its my new website
22:59 < Hunterkll> :D
22:59 <+NinjaStyle> im not sure wtf tbh
22:59 < Hunterkll> catbeard, with SSL enabled butthole enhanced security
22:59 < catbeard> so it runs Plesk
23:00 < Hunterkll> nope
23:00 < Hunterkll> cpanel
23:00 < TheTinker86> Security Camer question. NVR vs Software on a mini. and anyone use REOLINK Cameras?
23:00 < coderphive> is it windows or linux?
23:00 < Hunterkll> SHIT
23:00 < Hunterkll> MY CAMERA IS HERE
23:00 < Hunterkll> coderphive, i don't know it's namecheap shared hosting
23:00 < Hunterkll> lol
23:00 < catbeard> lame
23:00 <+NinjaStyle> im gonna try .co
23:00 < catbeard> i been setting up git/python/ruby apps in cpanel all day to try to make it break
23:01 < coderphive> just break nginx or apache vhosting
23:01 < coderphive> that's all they use
23:01 < coderphive> and a jailed chroot iirc
23:01 < catbeard> ya we're on lsws
23:01 < catbeard> with cagefs chroot
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> TheTinker86: you gotta register first... you can ditch SASL if you can just tell your client not to join until after you register
23:03 < Hatter> alright guys let's wrap it up for the day
23:03 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: that site gave me a good chuckle. thanks
23:04 <@JollyRgrs> ihre: (from back a while)... i thought .tk went non-free  a while back... but i dunno, i've not dealt with it since early 2000s
23:04 < Hatter> remember .biz
23:04 < Hatter> what a flop that was
23:04 <@JollyRgrs> show.biz
23:05 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: b.c everyone knows .com... .org mostly, and .net kinda and ppl are warming up to .gov
23:05 <@JollyRgrs> anything off of that is just "odd" and forgettable
23:05 <@JollyRgrs> but now with the 1000s of vanity TLDs, it might be more of the norm to have a non-.com
23:05 <@JollyRgrs> like twitch.tv, etc.
23:05 <+NinjaStyle> man, finding a short domain name is hard
23:06 < catbeard> local.host
23:07 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: so is finding a domain for your last name when it is a major company's name, like poor person who's named mcdonalds or ford
23:07 < TheTinker86> @JollyRgrs ive been registered here for months. it has only been in the last like 2 months that it throws me in quarantine
23:07 <@JollyRgrs> TheTinker86: only those banned or unregistered get sent there
23:07 < TheTinker86> did i get banned?
23:07 <@JollyRgrs> but the problem is that your client when you join freenode, doesn't register you BEFORE it tries to join the chan
23:07 < xamithan> Sounds like a personal problem of someone who doesn't know how to setup their client
23:08 <@JollyRgrs> by the time you realize you are in the wrong chan, you are registered and can then enter here freely
23:08 <@JollyRgrs> no, you are not banned (as you are in here now)
23:08 < TheTinker86> xamithan is that at me?
23:08 < xamithan> just setup sasl
23:08 < TheTinker86> hush you, you're rude
23:08 < TheTinker86> jolly, i think its a timing thing then
23:08 < technonerd> Just use an ssl cert
23:09 < xamithan> trying to help is being rude?
23:09 < xamithan> Ok then
23:09 < TheTinker86> cus i set it up to do the /msg then /join channel. the message must not have finished before it attempted to join
23:09 < Hatter> xamithan: Of course not, but the way you phrased it was of course rude, you might apologize
23:09 < TheTinker86> LOL <xamithan> Sounds like a personal problem
23:10  * nurdie eats popcorn
23:10 < TheTinker86> and i have setup sasl after it was suggested earlier. i haven't tested it tho.
23:11 < xamithan> If you already set it up then problem solved
23:11 < Hatter> TheTinker86: Have you heard The Tinker and the Crab?
23:11 < Hatter> it's quite good
23:11 < TheTinker86> i set it up a few minutes ago but Jolly was providing me more information before i had the chance to say I had set it up
23:12 < Hatter> the album as a whole is great for children
23:12 < Hatter> I once hired a guitar man to play it during a childrens party
23:12 < TheTinker86> never heard of it Hatter
23:12 < Casteil> Hunterkll: I think so yeah.. I couldn't tell  the difference between just a normal "monitor off" and this standby mode
23:12 < AnimalFarmPig> NinjaStyle: it's easy to find domains if you prepend "shitty" to whatever domain name you want
23:12 < Casteil> so I thought my computer just wasn't going into standby at all
23:12 < AnimalFarmPig> I bet you could register shittygoogle.com right now if you wanted to
23:12 <+NinjaStyle> AnimalFarmPig: im looking for a 5 letter domain
23:12 <+NinjaStyle> 333.22
23:12 < TheTinker86> farts.com
23:12 < nurdie> xamithan, is this an old rivalry or something, or are you just naturally all douchey like that?
23:12 < AnimalFarmPig> use unicode characters
23:13 < AnimalFarmPig> emojis or something
23:13 < darthwonka> I am really disappointed that clownpenis.fart is not a thing yet.
23:13 < FenJai> Does anyone know how I could extract an outlook calendar from an .ost file ?
23:13 < xamithan> Well he has been in here saying the same thing for two weeks nurdie
23:13 < nurdie> Ah, on going. Got it :)
23:13 < nurdie> That's why I asked :3
23:14 < ebol4> is .fart really a TLD
23:14 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: through outlook :P
23:14 <@JollyRgrs> FenJai: OST isn't meant to be opened up like a .pst is
23:14 <@JollyRgrs> OST is basically just a cache
23:14 < darthwonka> I don't think so.. which is why it is disappointing
23:14 < TheTinker86> Network cameras. Anyone have a preferance of NVR device VS Software? Need the basics for camera controls as well as access via app. Was looking at UBNT for their NVR and maybe using Reolink cameras(client doesn't like the price point)
23:14 < AnimalFarmPig> NinjaStyle: see if you can register 🍆🍆🍆.fr or something
23:14 <@JollyRgrs> TheTinker86: yeah, i love UBNT network stuff (esp WAPs) but their sec. cams are a bit pricy
23:15 < Casteil> TheTinker86: Business or personal?
23:15 <+NinjaStyle> nah, the whole reason i want it is for catching shells and stuff
23:15 < FenJai> Can I extract anything from it JollyRgrs ? I have a user who has this but no other form of backup
23:15 <+NinjaStyle> adding unicode to the equation will just be a problem
23:15 < AnimalFarmPig> catching shells? typosquatting?
23:15 < Casteil> JollyRgrs: "a bit" lol
23:15 <@JollyRgrs> so, i just heard of a funny phishing mail about bank of america... it's from bankofamerica.corn
23:15 < AnimalFarmPig> lol
23:15 < Casteil> 2 of ubiquiti's cameras cost as much as my entire NVR + 4 IP cams
23:16 <@JollyRgrs> heh
23:16 < TheTinker86> Casteil and @JollyRgrs its for a business. I love what ive seen of the features offered with UBNT's NVR. Just wondering if a PC with software is a better route
23:16 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: what are you using for cams?
23:16 <+NinjaStyle> AnimalFarmPig: ? not typosquatting
23:16 <@JollyRgrs> i personally love zoneminder, but haven't really used it in 4-5 yrs :( i miss it
23:16 < Casteil> I have a LaView kit (hikvision oem afaik) that I got off slickdeals/newegg for $300
23:16 < AnimalFarmPig> NinjaStyle: what do you mean catching shells?
23:16 < TheTinker86> and from what ive seen of the NVR by UBNT, they can work with nearly any network camera. which would allow me to buy cheaper cams
23:16 <+NinjaStyle> sometimes you are limited by the number of chars in a payload, so having a short domain is beneficial
23:16 < Casteil> https://slickdeals.net/f/11580087-laview-lv-knt982a42w4-4mp-zoom-hd-8-channel-nvr-poe-ip-security-system-with-2x-4mp-2x-2mp-bullet-cameras-no-hdd-280-at-newegg-flash?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1 < very similar to this kit
23:17 < Casteil> they don't currently have any for that price but they show up just about every other week
23:17 < AnimalFarmPig> ahhh... makes sense
23:17 <@JollyRgrs> i'm going home. PEACE OUT-SIDE!
23:17 <+NinjaStyle> the first .co hit
23:17 <+NinjaStyle> {u'available': True, u'domain': u'bjp.co', u'definitive': True, u'price': 36490000, u'period': 1, u'currency': u'USD'}
23:17 <+NinjaStyle> only 36 mil
23:17 < AnimalFarmPig> namesheep.com would be an awesome domain to own, but someone already has it :/
23:18 < TheTinker86> Casteil does that have an NVR with it or are you using software on a system to manage?
23:18 < Casteil> it's a whole kit, nvr, cams, even wire
23:18 < Casteil> BUT
23:18 < Casteil> I wouldn't recommend it for commercial use
23:18 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: you like the LaView cams?
23:18 < TheTinker86> @JollyRgrs have you used the app for Zoneminder?
23:18 <@JollyRgrs> i'm looking for home use... and would love to be able to tap zoneminder into it as well as using the NVR
23:19 <@JollyRgrs> TheTinker86: they have a specific app now?
23:19 < TheTinker86> looks like
23:19 <@JollyRgrs> i just used IPCamViewer for android back in th day
23:19 < TheTinker86> says they have a ios/android app
23:19 <@JollyRgrs> neat!
23:19 < coderphive> NinjaStyle do you use goenv or gvm
23:19 < TheTinker86> lol oh shit. they dont support windows at all
23:20 < Casteil> JollyRgrs: The NVR software kinda blows BUT.. they can't really be beat for the price, image quality is great.. https://i.imgur.com/4xDkptB.png
23:20 < Casteil> obviously those aren't full res in the screenshot
23:20 < coderphive> since we're talking NVR's
23:20 < onicrom> this is awesome https://github.com/miguelmota/cointop
23:21 < coderphive> Ubiquiti's NVR works great for home assistant
23:21 < coderphive> fyi
23:21 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: nah, im a noob
23:21 < TheTinker86> Casteil those are super clear cameras
23:21 <+NinjaStyle> all my projects are small and dinky
23:21 < coderphive> NinjaStyle check out goenv
23:21 < coderphive> lemme know what you think
23:21 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, that pic qual is great
23:21 < Casteil> the cameras could easily be used with a custom ZoneMinder setup
23:21 < TheTinker86> coderphive you use teh UBNT NVR with non UBNT cameras?
23:21 < coderphive> https://github.com/syndbg/goenv
23:21 < coderphive> TheTinker86 neg
23:22 < Casteil> but I plug them directly into the PoE on the NVR to save PoE ports on my switch :P
23:22 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: using the NVR as the PoE switch?
23:22 < coderphive> I think you can though
23:22 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: looks neat
23:22 <@JollyRgrs> yeah :)
23:22 < Casteil> JollyRgrs: Yeah. It can take up to 8 cameras
23:22 <@JollyRgrs> nice
23:22 < coderphive> which one are you guys talking about
23:22 < TheTinker86> UBNT NVR says its copatible with 'most' network cameras. Reolink cameras are rated just as high in quality/design as UBNY cameras
23:23 < TheTinker86> but prices. reo around $60. ubnt around $190 for the same bullet type camera
23:23 < coderphive> yeah, idk, I waste a lot of money in home automation so take my advice with a grain of salt
23:23 < coderphive> like my HA server is a nuc
23:24 < coderphive> and I just installed a POE switch with CAT-6
23:24 < Hunterkll> awwww yisss
23:24 < matjam> nojeffrey: how did you go with openfortivpn
23:24 < coderphive> because I didn't want to wire my house with coax
23:24 < Casteil> cat 6 is overkill imo ._.
23:24 < matjam> why does my monitor go randomly to sleep sometimes
23:24 < coderphive> probably
23:24 < matjam> stupid thing
23:24 < TheTinker86> i imagine cat 6 is needed with cameras
23:24 < Casteil> 'futureproof' perhaps, but eh
23:24 < TheTinker86> especially hd
23:24 < Casteil> TheTinker86: not at all
23:24 < TheTinker86> really?
23:24 < coderphive> Casteil that was my thought
23:25 < coderphive> It's not _that_ much more expensive
23:25 < Casteil> coderphive: Meh. After you buy a house you save where you can
23:25 < TheTinker86> yeah i think its $5 more for the same 1000 feet
23:25 < Casteil> and cat 5e is good for 5gbase-t
23:25 < coderphive> I own my house
23:25 < Casteil> TheTinker86: bigger difference than that
23:25 < coderphive> I'm also single with no kids though
23:25 < Casteil> for me it was like $50 for 500ft 5e or $80 for 500ft cat6
23:26 < TheTinker86> maybe the price of cat5 cable dropped more since i last had to buy it
23:27 < Casteil> yeah, quick check @ lowes has cat6 coming in at least 50% pricier than 5e
23:27 < Casteil> $93 for 1000ft 5e, $152 for 100ft cat6
23:27 < TheTinker86> so im thinking i may stick with the UBNT NVR since it seems quite strong and can support more than we will need
23:27 < TheTinker86> better to be OP than under
23:27 < TheTinker86> but cameras, i think i may order a few reolink to test
23:28 < Casteil> TheTinker86: Honestly, I love the LaView cameras I got
23:28 < coderphive> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004KPGPXW/ref=emc_b_5_t
23:28 < coderphive> 1000 FT 229
23:28 < Casteil> and if you can wait for a deal like the slickdeals thread I linked, $300 for 4 cameras and just trashing the NVR is pretty good XD
23:28 < coderphive> sold
23:28 < Casteil> coderphive: gotta be really careful buying ethernet on amazon
23:28 < Casteil> 90% of it is CCA
23:28 < coderphive> o
23:28 < Casteil> (your link is not)
23:28 < TheTinker86> cca?
23:29 < Casteil> copper clad aluminum
23:29 < Hunterkll> shit
23:29 < Hunterkll> i don't know how to use a camera this good
23:29 < Hunterkll> lol
23:29 < TheTinker86> oh damn
23:29 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Direct-SW-29776-250-SolidRun-Content/dp/B008JGG6ZA "Oh yeah look at that $86 for 1000ft of cat 6!!!"
23:29 < Casteil> it's shitty copper clad aluminum and will perform worse than proper solid copper 5e
23:29 < Hunterkll> I don't know how to fucking put it in full automatic mode
23:29 < Hunterkll> lmao
23:30 < matjam> p
23:30 < TheTinker86> so whats wrong with cca then?
23:30 < matjam> Program mode
23:30 < TheTinker86> oh i see
23:30 < matjam> Hunterkll: usually you pull up the ring and turn it to P
23:30 < Hunterkll> P is different
23:31 < coderphive> Copper is way more conductive than aluminum
23:31 < Hunterkll> i know hthe modes
23:31 < Hunterkll> i just don't know how to set them
23:31 < Hunterkll> matjam, this camera has a push button for mode
23:31 < Hunterkll> it has like
23:31 < matjam> Hunterkll: What camera is it?
23:31 < Hunterkll> 5 less dials than i'm used to
23:31 < Hunterkll> matjam, EOS-3
23:31 < TheTinker86> just use M for manual Hunterkll
23:31 < Casteil> TheTinker86: search for "don't use CCA" ... https://www.belden.com/blog/digital-building/not-in-my-network-copper-clad-aluminum-is-a-recipe-for-failure
23:31 < javi404> nothing like a nice AWS outage to make the day exciting
23:31 < Hunterkll> matjam, you push down the mode button and use the dials to change modes apparently
23:31 < Hunterkll> lol
23:31 < matjam> Hunterkll: film camera?
23:31 < Hunterkll> duh
23:31 < matjam> oldskool man
23:32 < Casteil> one of the main drawbacks for aluminum is that it really work hardens over time
23:32 < Hunterkll> matjam, it's replacing my EOS 50e which has a busted film back/door
23:32 < Casteil> there was a time, I think in the 70s, where electrical wiring in houses was being done with aluminum
23:32 < matjam> Hunterkll: I've spent too much money on nikon stuff .. lol
23:32 < Casteil> something like 10 years later shitloads of these houses started burning down from electrical fires
23:32 < TheTinker86> Casteil i wish you could hop in that time machine and tell me this 6 months ago!
23:32 < Hunterkll> i've been canon since my first film camera two decades ago
23:32 < Hunterkll> :P
23:32 < Casteil> not that ethernet carries high voltage, but aluminum isn't really great as a conductor
23:32 < Hunterkll> i never really got on the digital train
23:32 < xamithan> They also put heating in the roof
23:32 < TheTinker86> lol i have half a box left of some cat6 cca
23:32 < javi404> Casteil: rusty connections between aluminum and copper
23:33 < javi404> if my memory is correct
23:33 <+NinjaStyle> anyone wanna get a referral for this dude on linkedin?
23:33 < Casteil> (aluminum also oxidizes heavily)
23:33 < TheTinker86> althogh ive only used it as patch cables with the exception of 1 run from garage to other side of my house
23:33 <+NinjaStyle> endpoint engineeer
23:33 < afya> I have 90% full box of CCA....And I used it to wire my house
23:33 < Casteil> yep.. there's some pretty nasty galvanic action that can occur when different metals are in prolonged contact with one another
23:33 <+NinjaStyle> long term contract 70-75/hr
23:33 < Casteil> afya: it's not the end of the world
23:33 < Casteil> chances are it'll function fine
23:34 < afya> I hope. I only learned about it after laying it down
23:34 < TheTinker86> so the cable doesnt function any worse. its just likely to go bad in a shorter length of time
23:34 < Hunterkll> matjam, anyway - http://www.myphotoweb.com/Canon_camera/eos_serie_pages/images/eos50ea.jpg - this is the EOS 50e. you can see the focus modes, bracketing, AF control, and camera modes, are all on dials, nevermind the back/front dials and buttons on there as well
23:34 < Casteil> but it's always something I bring up to people whenever they're wiring ethernet
23:34 < Casteil> TheTinker86: well, aluminum also has higher resistance than aluminum
23:34 < Casteil> er, copper
23:35 < matjam> Hunterkll: yeah the nikons work similarly; I tend to shoot aperture priority usually
23:35 < TheTinker86> so might not go well with PoE
23:35 < Hunterkll> matjam, http://www.fraryguitar.com/toolbox_images/EOS3T_0646sm.jpg - this is the EOS3
23:35 < Casteil> that said
23:35 < Hunterkll> note the LACK OF DIALS AND SHIT
23:35 < matjam> haha yeah
23:35 < Hunterkll> this is a far more serious camera too
23:35 < Hunterkll> the next step up is the hardcore professional 1 line
23:35 < Casteil> I've got probably 70-100 ft cable runs to 2 of my cameras using the copper clad aluminum ethernet that came with my cameras
23:35 < Casteil> they've been fine
23:35 < Hunterkll> which canon literally just stopped selling
23:36 < Casteil> but yeah your IP cams aren't going to be using more than 100mbps so you don't need to go super crazy with cat6 everywhere
23:36  * matjam glares at spotify for suddenly playing some country and western
23:36 < Hunterkll> matjam, https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/31/17412708/canon-film-camera-ended-sales-eos-1v
23:36 < Hunterkll> :o
23:36 < Hunterkll> I wanted an EOS-1V but a good one goes for $600-1000 even todfay
23:36 < Hunterkll> on ebay
23:36 < Hunterkll> used
23:36 < Hunterkll> i need to buy one before the end of 2020 though, so i can send it in to canon for a full overhaul
23:36 < afya> They just killed 1V
23:37 < Hunterkll> afya, honestly, i thought sales stopped in 2015
23:37 < Hunterkll> i was suprrised by this
23:37 < Hunterkll> afya, i just got a EOS-3 in the mail like 20 minutes ago
23:37 < Hunterkll> :P
23:37 < afya> Guess they made too many
23:38 < Hunterkll> they stopped producing them in 2010
23:38 < Hunterkll> lol
23:38 < afya> lol
23:38 < Hunterkll> ....!
23:39 < Hunterkll> the EOS-3 doesn't have a built in flash
23:39 < Hunterkll> whoopsies
23:39 < catbeard> UGH
23:39 < catbeard> GDPR
23:39 < alazare619> so never had laxative before till yesterday
23:39 < alazare619> hadnt pooped in idk how long
23:39 <+NinjaStyle> catbeard: we're changing our privacy policy
23:39 < alazare619> it was a shitty day
23:39  * matjam parties like it's sometime before GDPR
23:39  * matjam parties *recklessly*
23:40 < matjam> once everyone works out the department that is enforcing GDPR is a couple of guys in a basement in some building in paris, and that they won't have enough time to deal with anyone but facebook and google, people will go back to their careless ways.
23:42 < matjam> why has Ducati somehow gotten more reliable than Triumph, thats what I want to know.
23:43 < ThisIsSys> Dudes
23:44 < ThisIsSys> 4560 SECONDS TO GO! :D
23:44 < Casteil> matjam: ownership change maybe?
23:44 < coderphive> NinjaStyle goenv is pro
23:44 < Casteil> seems like there's been a significant amount of "pump and dump" happening with trusted brand names lately
23:44 <+NinjaStyle> it looks cool, im gonna have to try it
23:45 < catbeard> ugh companies house too
23:45 < catbeard> if you register as a sole trader, can't have Limited in the name
23:45 < catbeard> if it doesn't exist at companies house anyway
23:45 < Casteil> "we're being acquired by X! this will be a great change!"
23:46 < catbeard> Casteil: few days later [Subject: We're so sorry...]
23:48 <+NinjaStyle> Casteil: are you being acquired?
23:48 < Casteil> ha, no
23:48 <+NinjaStyle> my company has been buying up some smalls lately it seems
23:48 < catbeard> "killin me smalls"
23:49 < Casteil> we recently bought another business
23:49 <+NinjaStyle> killin the smalls
23:49 < catbeard> i would ask if that was any of your business, but now it is
23:49 < Casteil> not exactly
23:49 < Casteil> they were suffering from a shitty reputation because they were poorly managed
23:49 < catbeard> you bought EIG
23:49 < Casteil> chances are, our ownership will end up turning that reputation around
23:50 < Casteil> all of our locations have excellent ratings on google
23:50 < Casteil> not a single one lower than 4.6
23:50 < Casteil> theirs.. is 3.0
23:51 < Casteil> "broken promises. unable to locate their own inventory. blaming anyone but themselves"
23:51 < alazare619> https://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/7p8puq/light_i_was_22_years_old_when_i_learned_that_not/
23:51 < Casteil> one of the google reviews, paraphrased
23:51 < Casteil> and sounds spot on given what I've seen and heard
23:51 < Hunterkll> OH BABY
23:51 < Hunterkll> CAMERA SOUNDS LIKE A MACHINE GUN
23:52 < catbeard> camera gun
23:58 < l3gacy> pew pew
23:58 < alazare619> man i really want a nintendo switch
23:59 <+NinjaStyle> buy one
23:59 < alazare619> to much
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