--- Log opened Mon Jun 04 00:00:44 2018
00:03 < coderphive> I'm sitting here sick and digging holes in my front yard lol
00:04 < xe0n> beats being at work like me :(
00:04 < coderphive> ah that sucks
00:04 < sideup66> hey
00:04 < coderphive> xe0n, you're sick too?
00:04 < sideup66> does anyone in here what file format android default ringtones are in
00:05 < coderphive> m4a?
00:06 < xe0n> sick? no?
00:06 < sideup66> maybe
00:06 < xe0n> i better not be, i had my flu shot the other week
00:06 < sideup66> im wondering cause ive been having weird problems with mine
00:06 < sideup66> sometimes just forgets to ring
00:06 < sideup66> shows the call, vibrates
00:06 < coderphive> oh
00:06 < sideup66> but no ringer
00:06 < coderphive> mine too
00:06 < sideup66> really
00:06 < coderphive> What kind of phone/version?
00:06 < sideup66> what phone
00:06 < coderphive> Pixel XL
00:06 < sideup66> nexus 6p, android 8.1
00:06 < coderphive> latest
00:06 < xe0n> the most basic funtion isn't working....smart phone
00:06 < xe0n> get it
00:06 < xe0n> lol
00:06 < coderphive> yeapo
00:06 < coderphive> 8.1 bug
00:07 < coderphive> I think it has to do with DND bugs
00:07 < sideup66> okay, so its 8.1 that the problem exists in, i read that
00:07 < coderphive> Do you have DND on?
00:07 < sideup66> nope
00:07 < coderphive> weird
00:07 < sideup66> do you have a fix or workaround for it
00:07 < coderphive> notifications on my machine
00:07 < coderphive> haha
00:07 < xe0n> tell people to stop calling the phone
00:07 < coderphive> KDE Connect
00:08 < sideup66> yeah but...phone that doesnt ring
00:08 < sideup66> is bad
00:09 < coderphive> mine vibrates but doesn't ring out loud
00:09 < coderphive> and it's outside DND hours
00:09 < sideup66> yep
00:09 < sideup66> do you use bluetooth with it
00:09 < coderphive> yeap
00:09 < sideup66> im wondering if a full device wipe will fix it
00:09 < coderphive> I'll even miss calls on my HUD on my car
00:09 < coderphive> so it's def the OS
00:10 < sideup66> nah my car will ring
00:10 < sideup66> have you tried resetting the phone
00:10 < sideup66> wiping it and starting over
00:10 < coderphive> I'll get like a last minute notification
00:10 < coderphive> wait
00:10 < coderphive> Do you have Verizon?
00:10 < sideup66> tmobile
00:10 < sideup66> used to have em
00:10 < coderphive> oh hmm
00:11 < coderphive> can't be fota then
00:11 < sideup66> have you ever tried a reset to clear
00:11 < coderphive> yeah
00:11 < coderphive> This is my second phone
00:11 < sideup66> im trying to fix it because well, i need this phone to page me during oncall
00:11 < coderphive> It's done it since
00:11 < sideup66> i think around dec/jan it started for everyone
00:11 < coderphive> yeap
00:12 < coderphive> That's about right
00:12 <+NinjaStyle> Heading to ATL
00:12 < sideup66> have you tried wiping since then
00:12 <+NinjaStyle> :(
00:12 < sideup66> or changed phone
00:12 < coderphive> NinjaStyle, come see me bae
00:12 < coderphive> I'll be in austin next week doe
00:12 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: are you in ATL?
00:12 < coderphive> DAL
00:12 <+NinjaStyle> Oh
00:12 < sideup66> coderphive: ?
00:12 <+NinjaStyle> Well fml
00:12 < coderphive> DAL/DFW
00:12 < coderphive> sideup66, no
00:13 < sideup66> okay
00:13 < coderphive> but it's the second phone on this version that's done it
00:13 < coderphive> 2 Pixel XL's
00:13 < sideup66> so its worth a shot to wipe again....i think i read some people had it fixed by jan or something
00:13 < coderphive> weird
00:13 <+NinjaStyle> Flying east sucks dick
00:13 < coderphive> I'll try
00:13 < coderphive> NinjaStyle, it always feels slower
00:13 <+NinjaStyle> Lose 2 hours, 3 hour flight
00:13 < sideup66> yeah, why im trying it, because i cant have it not ring during oncall, when it rings in the middle of the night and im sleeping
00:13 < sideup66> thats bad if it cant wake me up
00:13 < coderphive> sideup66, let me know if it works
00:14 <+NinjaStyle> Effectively 5 hours lost just while in the air
00:14 < coderphive> if not I can share with you some of the on-call buzzers I've made
00:14 < sideup66> howd you do that
00:14 < coderphive> Do you use PagerDuty?
00:14 < sideup66> not at work, no, sadly
00:14 < sideup66> xmatters
00:14 < coderphive> oh
00:14 < coderphive> uh okay
00:14 < sideup66> i mean if that can go off and make a racket that is fin
00:14 < sideup66> e
00:14 < coderphive> What's the notification based on?
00:14 < coderphive> something like prom?
00:14 < sideup66> phone call or sms
00:14 < coderphive> no no no
00:14 < coderphive> xmatters is chat
00:15 < coderphive> what sends the notification to that
00:15 < sideup66> wut
00:15 < sideup66> oh our monitoring, splunk
00:15 < coderphive> oh okay
00:15 < coderphive> gah
00:15 < coderphive> Splunk is terrible for monitoring
00:15 < sideup66> big corp
00:15 < coderphive> ye
00:15 < coderphive> I feel ya
00:15 < sideup66> also talk open source all ya want
00:15 < coderphive> haha not even that
00:15 < sideup66> but when open source breaks (see android) YOU are the warranty
00:15 <+NinjaStyle> Splunk is a great product tbh
00:15 < coderphive> just centralized alerting
00:15 < coderphive> it is
00:15 < sideup66> when that breaks, they have someone with a balance book to blame/sue/make fix it
00:16 < coderphive> but it's not an alerting/monitoring solution
00:16 < coderphive> it's core competency is displaying metrics
00:16 < coderphive> It's like an expensive grafana
00:16 < sideup66> also
00:16 < sideup66> what the fuck is spotify doing on my computer
00:16 < sideup66> trying to update
00:16 < coderphive> lmao
00:16 < sideup66> but not
00:16 < coderphive> okay
00:16 < coderphive> so back to the problem
00:17 < coderphive> you get notifications on chat
00:17 < coderphive> can you modify the alerts in Splunk?
00:17 < sideup66> think so, fairly reliably
00:17 < coderphive> cool
00:17 < sideup66> not without calling my boss and doing things lol
00:17 < coderphive> Are you the only one on call?
00:17 < sideup66> me and him, but i need to gate shit
00:17 < sideup66> if it goes to him its bad
00:17 < coderphive> sure
00:17 < coderphive> can you made scripts?
00:17 < coderphive> I assume so
00:18 < sideup66> happened this morning, was not fun, i mean, our patching team is stupid but i digress....and our monitoring group is more special at times
00:18 < sideup66> on mah phone?
00:18 < coderphive> no
00:18 < sideup66> oh
00:18 < sideup66> ye but we have a dedicated team managing splunky
00:18 < coderphive> so the flow here would be splunk => alert aggregator => alertee
00:18 < sideup66> \pretty much
00:18 < sideup66> sms alerts are direct
00:19 < sideup66> they beep mostly
00:19 < coderphive> you're lacking the alert aggregator
00:19 < sideup66> but phone calls are when poop hit the fan
00:19 < coderphive> how do you have it setup?
00:19 < coderphive> is it metric level, like disk 70% full send message on xmatters 90% call phone
00:20 < sideup66> splunk sends some alerts to the bcc line of its emailing (has our phones in there through our carrier relay, this works) if there is a bigger problem, our monitoring team tells xmatters to page oncall for x team
00:20 < sideup66> xmatters texts and calls
00:20 < sideup66> depends on situation
00:20 < coderphive> These systems are simple and pretty fun to code
00:20 < sideup66> hence why we have a paging/alerting group
00:20 < coderphive> You're not going to do it over night
00:21 < coderphive> but basically I set mine up so that different priorities would actually call our on-call
00:21 < sideup66> but normally, oncall for me goes like this
00:21 < sideup66> watch phone, that goes off check things
00:21 < coderphive> Mine also sent a REST call to a device I had on my network that'd wake me up
00:21 < hello_kitty> how do i deal with ansible needing python on the remote machine? my targets are ubuntu 18.04 which already has python3, but even a ping command fails until i install python2
00:21 < sideup66> if its 1 am and texts come, eh, not good to miss, if a call comes in, wake up and go deal (drop all the things)
00:21 < coderphive> hello_kitty, 18.04 ships with python2
00:22 < sideup66> if i had a second phone right now id have it do that
00:22 < coderphive> $ python --version  Python 2.7.15rc1
00:22 < sideup66> coderphive: im gonna try a wipe
00:22 < sideup66> if it acts up again
00:22 < coderphive> try it
00:22 < coderphive> Lemme know
00:22 < hello_kitty> i get python not found
00:22 < sideup66> im gonna just roll it back android 8 or 7
00:23 < coderphive> hello_kitty, what binary is it looking for?
00:23 < hello_kitty> i can do `which python3` tho
00:23 < coderphive> I recall hearing about this before
00:23 < coderphive> during 16.04
00:23 < coderphive> I'm not an every day ansible user but I'll try to help you
00:23 < sideup66> til 9 is out
00:23 < sideup66> but
00:23 < sideup66> can you flash lineage on a phone without root
00:23 < sideup66> so lineage is there
00:23 < sideup66> but not rooted
00:24 < sideup66> work apps dont like root
00:24 < sideup66>  but may take p in lineage
00:24 < coderphive> hello_kitty, what's the actual error message?
00:24 < hello_kitty> ansible gives me this error regarding the binary: "module_stdout": "/bin/sh: 1: /usr/bin/python: not found\r\n",  (when running ping all)
00:24 < coderphive> on the system do `ls /usr/bin | grep python`
00:24 < coderphive> show me the output
00:24 < hello_kitty> i presume that's from the remote machine, and not my control machine
00:25 < hello_kitty> first time using ansible :D
00:25 <@JollyRgrs> should i put plex in a VM or docker on my freenas box?
00:25 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, do you have an orchestrator running on it?
00:25 < genr8_> freenas has Plex "plugins"
00:25 <@JollyRgrs> both the freenas box and my KVM server have the same specs
00:25 < genr8_> so its a jail
00:25 < coderphive> container orchestrator*
00:25 < hello_kitty> ls /usr/bin | grep python :: python3 python3.6 python3.6m python3m
00:25 < coderphive> weird
00:25 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: it'dbe whatever is in freenas
00:26 < genr8_> jails, jexec
00:26 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, I'd say VM then
00:26 < genr8_> you dont neeed a whole VM !
00:26 <@JollyRgrs> it can add a VM or a docker VM
00:26 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, I don't run containers without some form of orchestrator
00:26 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, like a docker-machine?
00:26 <@JollyRgrs> i've never done any containers/dockers before
00:26 < genr8_> its not a docker container jesus christ its a freenas jail
00:26 < MillerBoss> https://consumer.huawei.com/us/tablets/matebook-x-pro/
00:26 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  HUAWEI MateBook X Pro | Laptop and PC | HUAWEI United States
00:26 < MillerBoss> Wow
00:26 <@JollyRgrs> i've just done straight VMs, i don't deal with jails
00:26 < hello_kitty> the manual suggests this:  ansible myhost --sudo -m raw -a "yum install -y python2"
00:26 <@JollyRgrs> genr8_: they changed from jails to VMs
00:26 < genr8_> so learn and stop making confused comments
00:26 <@JollyRgrs> they use behyve or something
00:27 < genr8_> No they have both.
00:27 < hello_kitty> and then there is much discussion about automating the install: https://gist.github.com/gwillem/4ba393dceb55e5ae276a87300f6b8e6f
00:27 <+layer-eight> * hello_kitty →  Get Ansible to work on bare Ubuntu 16.04 without python 2.7 · GitHub
00:27 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, I don't see a reason you couldn't do it
00:27 <@JollyRgrs> i prefer having VMs in my KVM server b/c i know how to handle those... but that shouldn't be a reason to move it off
00:27 < coderphive> hello_kitty, I wonder if ubuntu server 18.04 doesn't ship with python2
00:27 <@JollyRgrs> and otherwise i have wasted CPU on this 2nd server as it is only doing freenas right now
00:28 < coderphive> hello_kitty, actually it doesn't
00:28 < coderphive> server ships without python 2
00:28 < hello_kitty> can i get the remote servers to use python3? should I learn 2 make an ansible playbook that installs python2?
00:28 < coderphive> hello_kitty, if you type python --version does it show python 3?
00:29 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: Really?
00:29 < coderphive> SpeakerToMeat, what?
00:29 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: Peh somebody would be inclined to believe we'll use python 3 and ipv6 someday
00:29 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: it looks like freenas talks about installing rancher in a VM to manage the docker containers
00:29 <+SpeakerToMeat> I still don't believe
00:29 <+SpeakerToMeat> I think society will end before we adopt ipv6 and python 3
00:29 < hello_kitty> it doesnt have python as a bin
00:29 < hello_kitty> only python3
00:29 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, Rancher is a great way to learn orchestration/docker
00:30 < coderphive> Really good dudes
00:30 < coderphive> hello_kitty, cool. `sudo apt install python-minimal`
00:30 <+SpeakerToMeat> I need more ram home
00:30 <+SpeakerToMeat> I can't leave either opera or chrome running more than 6 hours
00:30 <+SpeakerToMeat> Or firefox more than 45 minutes
00:30 <@JollyRgrs> SpeakerToMeat: you got something wrong then
00:30 < coderphive> SpeakerToMeat, I'm all about switching to python 3, it is confusing that desktop ships with both 2 & 3 but server doesn't
00:31 <@JollyRgrs> i leave firefox up for 30 days at a time and have had over 100 tabs open w/o issues
00:31 <@JollyRgrs> desktop is like 2nd beta for server
00:31 < coderphive> haha
00:31 <@JollyRgrs> always impliment in workstation b4 server
00:31 < coderphive> tbh 18.04 is pretty nice
00:31 < hello_kitty> okay they respond to an ansible ping now :D
00:31 < hello_kitty> now how to automate...
00:31 < coderphive> :)
00:31 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: I agree, I've been doing some recent code with python 3, the pain threshold is not high and it feels alright
00:32 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: How much ram? home I have only 8gb
00:32 < coderphive> I dig python 3
00:32 < hello_kitty> i can just make a playbook that uses the 'raw' command to install..right? i think
00:32 < coderphive> I've been learning a lot more go
00:32 <@JollyRgrs> i used to have only 8, i got 16 now on my work laptop... but no issues on either one
00:32 < coderphive> hello_kitty, you can do whatever you want. you'll learn best practices over time.
00:32 < coderphive> hello_kitty, don't get stressed about 'doing it right' at first
00:33 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: I do "code very quickly to use a couple times" stuff, with guis now, so it's easier o do python with yad than trying to do any serious widget framewrok in any language
00:33 < coderphive> hello_kitty, also look up the term 'idempotent'
00:33 < hello_kitty> oh im just turning on servers, building them, nuking and starting over
00:33 < coderphive> That's most of the thing with automation
00:33 < hello_kitty> getting prepped for next week when i gotta do it for real
00:33 < coderphive> Good
00:33 < coderphive> Good start
00:33 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: And the last time I researched rad gui frameworks for go and for groovy the results terrified me
00:33 < coderphive> oh yeah idk
00:33 < coderphive> I do mostly backend and CLI dev
00:34 < coderphive> I'm non-retarded with a front end
00:34 < coderphive> but not great
00:34 < sideup66> hey coderphive
00:34 < coderphive> hi
00:34 <+SpeakerToMeat> If I didn't spend 99.999% of the time in linxu and if it didn't felt wrong, I'd do more C# with Visual Studio form building
00:35 < sideup66> do you know where android hides its ringtone folder for default ringtones
00:35 < coderphive> SpeakerToMeat, .net core
00:35 < coderphive> sideup66, yes, one sec
00:35 < coderphive>  /system/media/audio/ringtones
00:35 < sideup66> huh
00:35 < sideup66> my /system folder shows as empty in twrp
00:35 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: Yeah, my trouble is not the language itself, I feel confy with python, even if c# si more natural to turn into a binary than using cx_freeze, but it's the gui frameworks that don't jive with me naturally, layout masnaging and defining a miriad of objects feels like pulling teeth for me.
00:36 < coderphive> sideup66, supposedly it's RO?
00:36 < coderphive> It's probably isolated
00:36 < sideup66> yes but doesnt twrp run root
00:36 < coderphive> idk, that's reaching my limits on my knowledge of Android
00:36 < coderphive> SpeakerToMeat, makes sense
00:37 <@JollyRgrs> sideup66: you don't have to put i in system default folder
00:37 < sideup66> i know
00:37 < sideup66> but i want to know if my file format is causing this stupid bug
00:37 < sideup66> hence why i want to see the default files, what format they are in
00:37 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, 8.1 ringer not ringing bug
00:37 <@JollyRgrs> oh
00:37 <@JollyRgrs> i dunno about that
00:37 < coderphive> http://piunikaweb.com/2018/02/26/incoming-calls-not-ringing-on-pixelpixel-xl-after-android-8-1-update/
00:37 <@JollyRgrs> i'm stuck pre-oreo
00:37 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  Incoming calls not ringing on Pixel/Pixel XL after Android 8.1 update - PiunikaWeb
00:38 <@JollyRgrs> well, moto has been saying "in a few weeks" for a year or so now
00:38 < hello_kitty> i've read a warning not to edit linux files in WSL (windows subsystem for linux) from windows... anyone use this thing..? I'm just using it for ansible b/c it sounded like I could have a windows control machine deploy stuff
00:38 < sideup66> either way
00:38 <+SpeakerToMeat> Sigh, I need more ram home
00:38 < hello_kitty> i've been editing everything from within the linux subsystem via nano
00:38 < sideup66> my planned attempt to fix is twofold
00:38 <@JollyRgrs> hello_kitty: if they mean don't edit in notepad, it would be b/c of line break codes
00:38 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: Even with lineage?
00:38 < coderphive> hello_kitty, seems fine to me. Just check for inappropriate line terminations.
00:38 < sideup66> 1. im backing up now, then telling the phone to wipe itself, then going in and blowing the whole device away and starting over
00:39 < coderphive> err
00:39 < sideup66> if that doesnt work
00:39 < coderphive> return carriages
00:39 < hello_kitty> so if i fire up one of the IDEs that can do linux line terminations it might work? i'll try
00:39 < sideup66> 2. im going to just run 8.0 or pre 8
00:39 < sideup66> until either 9 or a i get a newer phone
00:39 < coderphive> hello_kitty, everything will throw up in python. You'll know.
00:40 < sideup66> coderphive: im surrounded by java programmers at work
00:40  * sideup66 shudders
00:40 < hello_kitty> i just wanted to write the yaml or whatever this is, in an ide
00:40 <@JollyRgrs> SpeakerToMeat: can't run anything on my verizon motorola Z Force
00:40 < hello_kitty> im bad at nano :x
00:40 < sideup66> poor linux boxes running java
00:40 < sideup66> poor things are smoked :(
00:40 < coderphive> I don't dev on Windows
00:40 < coderphive> so idk
00:40 <@JollyRgrs> hello_kitty: you could prob open in like vs code or whatever and just make sure line returns are are correctly
00:41 < coderphive> I know Windows does some funky shit with hidden return carriages though
00:41 < coderphive> Frequent bug reports in the Kube slack abt that
00:41 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: Oh damn, moto z, blocked bootloader
00:41 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
00:41 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, ++
00:41 <@JollyRgrs> so CRLF is what windows uses by default for line endings
00:41 <@JollyRgrs> you want just CR
00:41 <@JollyRgrs> i think mac uses just LF
00:41 <@JollyRgrs> to make it more fun
00:41 < sideup66> im thinking of leaving jewgle/pixel to go to oneplus
00:41 < sideup66> or say fuck it and go to ios
00:41 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, I think you're right
00:42 < sideup66> because im getting tired of broken neckbeard/curry experiments
00:42 < sideup66> plus ill be in the imessage club if i do that
00:42 <@JollyRgrs> all the more reason not to? lol
00:42 < coderphive> The only note I have about 18.04 is gnome-terminal is still fucked up
00:42 <@JollyRgrs> i hate the whole imsg idea
00:42 <@JollyRgrs> what's wrong with their gnome-terminal?
00:43 < sideup66> oh lawd
00:43 <@JollyRgrs> i usually installed Terminator or something right off the bat
00:43 < sideup66> coderphive: are you telling me buntu 18 is still a shitshow
00:43 < coderphive> haha no
00:43 < coderphive> It's actually quite nice
00:43 < coderphive> but gnome terminal installed not from the PPA is fucked
00:43 < coderphive> so discover or apt
00:43 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: Whathever I use, I use yakuake anyhow
00:43 < coderphive> terminator supports splitting
00:44 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, did you install from PPA?
00:44 <@JollyRgrs> just apt-get install terminator
00:44 <@JollyRgrs> iirc
00:44 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: So does yakuake :D
00:44 <@JollyRgrs> it's been a few years
00:44 < coderphive> lemme try that
00:45 <+SpeakerToMeat> Sigh, even with NX's great protocol, remoting over shitty adsl sucks
00:46 <@JollyRgrs> SpeakerToMeat: remoting via ssh?
00:46 <@JollyRgrs> looked into mosh before?
00:47 <+SpeakerToMeat> JollyRgrs: Some stuff can't be easily done with ssh.... though this might be doable
00:47 <+SpeakerToMeat> which is checkign a movie with vlc
00:55 < hello_kitty> ok my research about WSL suggests that it still has some fundamental problem with windows saving files into the linux area (may have to reinstall linux), but somehow while in the linux bash it is okay to go navigate around the windows file system (which is mounted) and do just about anything with those files
00:55 < hello_kitty> so hypothetically if i dont create a file in linux with nano, but instead create it in windows in the file system.. i can then go execute it (in this case an ansible playbook) in linux
00:55 < hello_kitty> not sure how that is possible... but going to try it
00:56 <@cryptic1> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-03/microsoft-is-said-to-have-agreed-to-acquire-coding-site-github
00:56 <+layer-eight> * cryptic1 →  Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire Coding Site GitHub - Bloomberg
00:56 < MillerBoss> Where are you been
00:56 < MillerBoss> OLD NEWS!
00:57 <+AnonymooseReddtr> intregration with vsto in...
00:57 < MillerBoss> s/are/have
00:57 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss] Where have you been
00:57 < MillerBoss> cryptic1: discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221527
00:57 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Microsoft Is Said to Have Agreed to Acquire GitHub | Hacker News
00:58 <+SpeakerToMeat> nononononononononnonono
00:58 <+SpeakerToMeat> NO NO NOT GITHUB
00:58 < MillerBoss> some funny tweets in there https://www.techmeme.com/180603/p10#a180603p10
00:58 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Techmeme: Sources: Microsoft has agreed to acquire GitHub; the deal could be announced as soon as Monday (Bloomberg)
00:58 < MillerBoss> At the link
01:00 < Markdown1_> time to move to Gitlab
01:00 < MillerBoss> LOL https://twitter.com/markrendle/status/1003378836384440320
01:00 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Mark Rendle ❄ on Twitter: "A spokesman for Microsoft said "It was cheaper than paying for all our private repositories."… "
01:01 < Markdown1_> "GitHub preferred selling the company to going public and chose Microsoft partially because it was impressed by Chief Executive Officer Satya Nadella" LOL WTF :P
01:01 < MillerBoss> https://twitter.com/3_r1c/status/1003388872766705666
01:01 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  eric newsom on Twitter: "Microsoft deletes github, renames TFS to GitHub… "
01:01 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol
01:01 <+AnonymooseReddtr> too bad they renamed tfs to vsto a while back
01:01 < MillerBoss> Well get ready for another rename
01:01 < MillerBoss> :P
01:01 < Markdown1_> Embrace, Extend and Extinguish!
01:02 < Markdown1_> Wunderlist? Sunrise Calender?
01:02 < MillerBoss> Yup
01:02 < MillerBoss> Also what was the one Outlook on iOS was
01:02 < MillerBoss> Pretty much just renamed it Outlook
01:02 < hello_kitty> i mean as someone who just installed linux inside of windows (....) maybe they're just sane now. too optimistic? :D
01:03 < Markdown1_> fuck them
01:03 < Markdown1_> https://about.gitlab.com/
01:03 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  The only single product for the complete DevOps lifecycle - GitLab | GitLab
01:03 < MillerBoss> https://www.theverge.com/2015/1/29/7936081/microsoft-outlook-app-ios-android-features
01:03 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Microsoft rebrands Acompli as Outlook for iOS and Android - The Verge
01:03 < MillerBoss> In 2015
01:04 < MillerBoss> ROFL https://twitter.com/gitlab/status/1003409836170547200
01:04 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  GitLab on Twitter: "We're seeing 10x the normal daily amount of repositories #movingtogitlab https://t.co/7AWH7BmMvM We're scaling our fleet to try to stay up. Follow the progress on https://t.co/hN0ce379SC and @movingtogitlab"
01:04 < Markdown1_> ^
01:05 < Markdown1_> MillerBoss they even changed their homepage as "Migrate from Github"
01:05 < DLSteve> Markdown1_, It makes sense, MS is no longer a software company but rather a platform company. They don't care what you use so long as you are running it in Azure.
01:05 < Markdown1_> fuck Azure too
01:05 < MillerBoss> https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=1
01:05 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Grafana
01:06 < MillerBoss> Good for them though
01:06 < MillerBoss> Huge opportunity
01:06 < coderphive> is yuakake Konsole SpeakerToMeat
01:07 < sideup66> bukake
01:07 < sideup66> thats what it is
01:07 < Markdown1_> wait till Google ends up buying Gitlab :P
01:07 < sideup66> MillerBoss: sup
01:07 < sideup66> Markdown1_: thats it
01:07 < sideup66> its a paid server
01:07 < sideup66> game over
01:07 < sideup66> you lose
01:07 < sideup66> good day sir
01:07 < Markdown1_> Google Cloud Platform already have partnership with Gitlab
01:08 < Markdown1_> I think they should have went Public
01:09 < Markdown1_> or maybe tried becoming a Foundation like Mozilla.
01:09 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: It's konsole based, yes
01:09 < Markdown1_> I see no big corps having their private code repos on Github anymore
01:09 <+SpeakerToMeat> coderphive: It's a pull down terminall
01:10 < Markdown1_> even most Open Source projects will move as well
01:10 < coderphive> o
01:10 < coderphive> a drawer terminal?
01:11 < Markdown1_> DLSteve problem is they only end up making things worse for whatever they buy
01:11 < Markdown1_> Danger, Skype, Yammer, Nokia Mobile the list goes on
01:11 < coderphive> MillerBoss, that shit's funny
01:12 < L3gacy> Just ordered a pepperoni cheese steak WOOT.  #CodingAndNoms
01:12 < coderphive> they're hitting rate limits
01:12 < coderphive> kek
01:13 < Markdown1_> https://about.gitlab.com/google-cloud-platform/ ;)
01:13 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  Deploy to Google Cloud Platform | GitLab
01:13 < Markdown1_> also https://gogs.io/
01:14 < MillerBoss> Wow Synergy 2 sucks.
01:14 < MillerBoss> App calls home a lot as well
01:14 < coderphive> Their grafana is actually pretty cool
01:14 < coderphive> Obvious they use prometheus
01:16 < Markdown1_> nobody like M$
01:16 < Markdown1_> *likes
01:16 < coderphive> I mean, I think they're trying to turn around their reputation
01:16 <+SpeakerToMeat> MillerBoss: You can still find their source if you search in github
01:16 < hello_kitty> when i run ansible from a folder with ansible.cfg.. what is actually happening..? can i put that cfg somewhere else?
01:16 < coderphive> but yeah, history says you're stupid not to ditch it
01:17 < DLSteve> "Who Is Using Gogs?" bunch of Chinese companies apparently.
01:17 < coderphive> hello_kitty, that overrides ansible settings during run
01:17 < MillerBoss> Thanks SpeakerToMeat
01:17 < coderphive> hello_kitty, http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/installation_guide/intro_configuration.html#configuring-ansible
01:18 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  Configuring Ansible — Ansible Documentation
01:18 < coderphive> config manager usually has a load order for config
01:18 < coderphive> Ansible is ansible.conf -> environment variables -> CLI args
01:19 < MillerBoss> Of course https://twitter.com/sytses/status/1003415290368028672
01:19 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Sid Sijbrandij on Twitter: "We'll have a liquidity event. We're aiming for an IPO https://t.co/Y6N8kiFhgV but we can't rule out an acquisition.… https://t.co/E8rdQP1AYh"
01:20 < coderphive> isn't GitLab out of like Norway
01:23 < Markdown1_> coderphive no they are based here in San Francisco just like GitHub.
01:23 < coderphive> oh okay
01:23 < coderphive> idk why I thought that
01:23 < MillerBoss> Uhh >I work for Microsoft, we run systems that are not built on MS technologies. There’s absolutely no push for migration. No-one will pressure GitHub to change their stack, it would be a suicide.
01:23 < MillerBoss> Look at Nokia
01:24 < DLSteve> Most of their employees are remote workers though.
01:24 < coderphive> bad ass
01:24 < Markdown1_> GitLab also owns Gitorious (RIP)
01:24 < coderphive> That's what we're hoping to do
01:24 < MillerBoss> How good is bitbucket?
01:24 < coderphive> shitty
01:24 < coderphive> don't do it
01:25 < hello_kitty> i've used it for a few years... but all my stuff is small
01:25 < genr8_> Microsoft was the #2 contributor to github
01:25 < genr8_> https://medium.freecodecamp.org/the-top-contributors-to-github-2017-be98ab854e87
01:25 < Markdown1_> Bitbucket is pretty crappy
01:25 < genr8_> And I have faith in the Satya Nadella Microsoft of 2014+
01:25 < Markdown1_> only good alternative we have is GitLab
01:25 < coderphive> Yeah of course they are
01:25 < coderphive> It's their first year
01:26 < coderphive> They migrated all those repositories
01:26 < MillerBoss> Posted earlier but not sure of this is troll'n or not https://twitter.com/markrendle/status/1003378836384440320
01:26 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Mark Rendle ❄ on Twitter: "A spokesman for Microsoft said "It was cheaper than paying for all our private repositories."… "
01:26 < Markdown1_> :/
01:26 < sideup66> mr krabs
01:26 < hello_kitty> lmao...
01:26 < sideup66> is a
01:26 < coderphive> MS had TFS
01:26 < sideup66> vagina
01:26 < Markdown1_> arrogance at its limits
01:26 < sideup66> kek
01:27 < coderphive> oh
01:27 < coderphive> I get it
01:27 < coderphive> Buying GitHub is cheaper than paying
01:27 < Markdown1_> MillerBoss you work for M$? :/
01:27 < sideup66> kek
01:27 < sideup66> he works for the FCC
01:27 < sideup66> AJIT PAI
01:27 < sideup66> A  J I T
01:27 < sideup66> P
01:27 < sideup66> A
01:27 < Markdown1_> Sundar Pichai
01:27 < sideup66> I
01:27 < sideup66> kek
01:28 < MillerBoss> This exactly https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DezIcsLUEAANF8U.jpg:large
01:28 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 71,396 bytes
01:28 < coderphive> tbh
01:28 < coderphive> lmao
01:28 < coderphive> is that real
01:28 < sideup66> lmao
01:28 < coderphive> also
01:28 < sideup66> linkedin literally telling you
01:28 < MillerBoss> Come on do you have to ask if it is real?
01:28 < sideup66> get a job nub
01:28 < sideup66> kek
01:28 < coderphive> LinkedIn is toxic af
01:28 < Markdown1_> . . .
01:28 < coderphive> I've interviewed there
01:29 < DLSteve> meh, there are worse out there than MS, way worse. GitHub could have been bought by IBM or Oracle.
01:29 < Markdown1_> fucking LinkedIn also bought Lynda.com
01:29 < coderphive> DLSteve, true
01:29 < sideup66> hey what file is steve
01:29 < sideup66> a torrent
01:29 < coderphive> Oracle would make GitHub into a lawnmower
01:29 < Markdown1_> DLSteve or you know they could have still be like Twitter?
01:29 < coderphive> "Pay $1M for access to your open source repos"
01:29 < Markdown1_> coderphive then sue you for using it.
01:30 < coderphive> I can forgive working for Cisco, they at least try
01:30 < coderphive> I can look past working for RedHat
01:30 < coderphive> If you work for Oracle, you too are a soul-less devil
01:31 < Markdown1_> if you are working for Dell or HP?
01:31 < catbeard> ^
01:31 < catbeard> maybe Dell government systems
01:31 < coderphive> That's fine
01:31 < Markdown1_> Dell now owns EMC and Vmware
01:31 < DLSteve> coderphive, unless you are that one dude pushing out updates for OpenJDK
01:31 < catbeard> that would at least be entertaining
01:31 < coderphive> and Pivotal
01:31 < Markdown1_> coderphive yep
01:31 < coderphive> Pivotal is good people
01:31 < coderphive> EMC is doing good there
01:32 < coderphive> those companies need to move out of SF though
01:32 < catbeard> anyone remember coraid?
01:32 < coderphive> Tired of seeing good companies go there
01:32 < sideup66> MillerBoss: at work http://searchingforaheartofgold.ytmnd.com/
01:32 <+layer-eight> * sideup66 →  YTMND - Heart of Gold
01:32 < Markdown1_> I think this was just last week I was thinking I am surprised that Github is still a private company
01:33 < Markdown1_> I think they could have become pretty big
01:33 < Hunterkll> coderphive, i would willingly work for a few divisions in oracle
01:33 < Hunterkll> lol
01:33 < coderphive> You would, you nasty thing
01:33 < Markdown1_> Hunterkll what is that?
01:33 < Hunterkll> very select few
01:33 < Hunterkll> Solaris/SPARC
01:33 < Hunterkll> mainly
01:33 < coderphive> also dead
01:33 < Hunterkll> noooot quite
01:33 < Markdown1_> Hunterkll BerkeleyDB or MySQL? :P
01:35 < Markdown1_> Twitter and Github should have merged /s
01:35 < Markdown1_> with Pinterest
01:35 < Hunterkll> each line of code can only be 140 characters
01:35 < Hunterkll> oh god
01:35 < Hunterkll> that'd make perl the top language
01:35 < Hunterkll> :D
01:35 < Markdown1_> :P
01:35 < Hunterkll> i'm okay with this
01:35 < MillerBoss> Whats that sideup66 ?
01:35 < Markdown1_> name a better Trio
01:36 < sideup66> a miner for a heart of gold
01:36 < MillerBoss> Yeah
01:36 < Markdown1_> DuckDuckGo is the only thing that is keeping Perl alive now :P
01:38 < Markdown1_> I have a feeling that Google may end up buying Twitter.
01:38 < Hunterkll> heh
01:38 < Hunterkll> i wouldn't feel upset if twitter got canceled
01:38 < Hunterkll> :P
01:38 < Markdown1_> LOl they will split it in 2 apps
01:39 < coderphive> lmao
01:39 < coderphive> tweet your commit
01:39 < coderphive> fuck
01:39 < MillerBoss> Did we get some new users from the discord this weekend?
01:41 < MillerBoss> This makes sense as far as from Microsoft's angle >Github are the champions behind the electron project, with a lot of institutional knowledge about that technology + native web apps/PWAs in general. Microsoft is making a huge push toward writing UWP apps as PWAs.
01:42 < rpifan> hi id like to become a full stack devops and i need 1million in 7 years please gimme a job
01:43 < Markdown1_> now that everything failed Google may end up buying Discord :P
01:44 < Hunterkll> Github for Business 365 Insider Essentials Server
01:44 < Markdown1_> MillerBoss yep their Visual Studio Code uses Electron too.
01:44 < rpifan> why cant they just leave good shit alone
01:44 < MillerBoss> I am not a fan of Electron.
01:44 < Hunterkll> Github Online for Teams
01:44 < MillerBoss> Capitalism
01:44 < Markdown1_> Embrace, Extend and Extinguish.
01:45 < Hunterkll> Github 2019 Enterprise CAL 5-pack
01:45 < Markdown1_> Github + LinkedIN = Jobs
01:45 < Hunterkll> Github Essentials Workgroup Storage Server
01:45 < MillerBoss> Sign into GitHub.com > live.com to sign in
01:45 < technonerd> Github migrating to azure
01:46 < Markdown1_> renamed Micro$0ft Github, now
01:46 < MillerBoss> Today, you can now us you Skype account to sign in
01:46 < MillerBoss> s/us/use
01:46 < Hunterkll> yea, no one takes people who use the $ in microsoft seriously anymore
01:46 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss/Hunterkll] yea, no one takes people who usee the $ in microsoft seriously anymore
01:46 < Hunterkll> lol
01:46 < Markdown1_> $$$$$$$$$$$$$
01:46 < rpifan> sigh
01:46 < rpifan> linkin bought lynda.com
01:46 < rpifan> its sad
01:46 < Hunterkll> Though, honestly
01:46 < Hunterkll> this is probably good
01:46 < Markdown1_> rpifan ikr :/
01:46 < Hunterkll> we might actually get self-hosted versions of github now
01:47 < MillerBoss> Lynda.com has not changed though
01:47 < rpifan> i do my sad coding in atom
01:47 < MillerBoss> I use it weekly
01:47 < rpifan> lynda now has music ad shit
01:47 < rpifan> which is cool
01:47 < rpifan> but idk
01:47 < Markdown1_> https://www.udacity.com/google
01:47 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  Udacity-Google Partnership | Udacity
01:47 < MillerBoss> When will you know rpifan?
01:47 < Markdown1_> ^
01:48 < Hunterkll> Github for Workgroups 3.11
01:48 < Markdown1_> GitHub + Bing Maps
01:48 < Markdown1_> ^
01:48 < Hunterkll> Github New Technology
01:49 < Markdown1_> Github One
01:49 < Markdown1_> Github 365
01:49 < MillerBoss> Microsoft 365 now with GitHub
01:49 < Markdown1_> Github Fuck You in the Ass.
01:49 < Hunterkll> Github for Business 365 Semi Annual Current Insider Server Essentials Core
01:49 < MillerBoss> But what ring Hunterkll ?
01:50 < Hunterkll> Ludacris speed
01:50 < Markdown1_> Hunterkll +Cloud Edition with Azure
01:50 < MillerBoss> Can I roll back?
01:50 < Hunterkll> only to this morning's build
01:50 < Hunterkll> each version is only supported for 12 hours
01:50 < MillerBoss> GitHub now with automatic updates
01:51 < Hunterkll> tbh i'd be fine with that
01:51 < rpifan> never really
01:51 < MillerBoss> But what are your active hours?
01:51 < rpifan> lol
01:51 < rpifan> ludacris speed
01:51 < rpifan> sir we'v enever gone that fast
01:51 < Hunterkll> .....
01:51 < Hunterkll> LOL
01:51 < Hunterkll> A hentai subbing group
01:51 < Hunterkll> who's tag is [ASS-H]
01:51 < xe0n> sup
01:51 < Hunterkll> guess it makes sense
01:51 < rpifan>  whats the matter sander
01:51 < rpifan> chicken?
01:52 < Markdown1_> rpifan bieber speed then
01:53 < MillerBoss> New, from #freenode , freegit
01:54 < DLSteve> Hunterkll, You forgot to add "Fabric"
01:56 < hello_kitty> I'm learning ansible, and turning on a few dozen small vps servers (like $5 vultrs/linodes). These things run nginx, node.js and the backend for a browser game made in node.js. I turn these on manually (well, via a control panel and some ansible playbooks hopefully) to deal with traffic. I've just been using the root account.. should I learn to be more secure and make a user..?
01:57 < hello_kitty> i'm transitioning for an even more manual way of doing things where many corners were cut
01:58 < rpifan> yes
01:58 < rpifan> dont use root
01:58 < rpifan> i say
01:58 < hello_kitty> i guess what im really trying to ask is... as a sysadmin using a cheap and disposable server.. do you ever just do everything as root? or do u always try and do things more formally
01:58 < rpifan> github nt for wokgroups
01:59 < Markdown1_> Github Skype Emoji edition
01:59 < xe0n> what's the price of a server got to do with user account you use?
01:59 < xe0n> "this server is 5 years old, lets just half ass everything"
02:00 < rpifan> lol
02:01 < hello_kitty> i think that was the gist of the argument, yea :D hjaha
02:01 < xe0n> ;)
02:01 < hello_kitty> "if something goes wrong we'll nuke it from the control panel" i think was the sentiment, along with "it takes longer to type sudo"
02:02 < hello_kitty> i feel like im tattling
02:02 < rpifan> u cna have paswordless sudo
02:02 < hello_kitty> these things also didnt have tsl keys or whatever they're called.. was just plaintext ssh (i've remedied that with my limited linux knowledge)
02:03 < rpifan> is there such a thing as plaintext ssh
02:03 < rpifan> everything is encrypted
02:03 < Markdown1_> mosh or gtfo
02:04 < hello_kitty> is it? that'd be nice
02:04 < hello_kitty> these didnt have KEYS i think is the term
02:04 < hello_kitty> just root + pw
02:05 < Markdown1_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYnVYJDxu2Q
02:05 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  YouTube → Boney M. - Rasputin → ⚘ 13,853,405 ↑ 111,789 ↓ 3,155 ✍ 6,944
02:07 < Markdown1_> mmm any source for a bot like this?
02:07 < xe0n> car keys
02:11 < Markdown1_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jxqn-HOiR8
02:11 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  YouTube → Boney M. - Rasputin (BBC Top Of The Pops 25.12.1978) → ⚘ 913,465 ↑ 8,802 ↓ 213 ✍ 542 → * Content Restrictions
02:11 < Markdown1_> LOl thanks VPN
02:11 < Markdown1_> *LOL
02:16 < rum_fiend> o/
02:19 < MillerBoss> millerboss.com/gitfree coming soon ;)
02:20 < MillerBoss> Payed for by loot boxes
02:20 < enix> Last week of work :D
02:20 < enix> I'm getting excited to be a sysadmin again
02:20 < MillerBoss> Then what?
02:20 < catbeard> enix: welcome back to the grind
02:21 < enix> catbeard: thank you! It's great to be back
02:21 < catbeard> ugh yay custom backup monitoring scripts for sensu
02:22 < enix> y tho
02:22 < catbeard> because asana eng tasks
02:22 < enix> dont you pay like $300/mo for them to do that shit
02:22 < catbeard> no
02:22 < catbeard> we're not sensu enterprise
02:23 < enix> wtf is asana
02:23 < hello_kitty> whats wrong with my ansible create user? i tried to copy it from the manual: https://bpaste.net/show/ed7e3059f561
02:23 < catbeard> some good shit
02:23 <+layer-eight> * hello_kitty →  show at bpaste
02:23 < enix> why not jira
02:23 < catbeard> because check out asana
02:23 < catbeard> and it integrates with slack now and vice versa
02:23 < enix> Ah I see
02:23 < catbeard> i, in my infinite wisdom
02:24 < catbeard> suggested that the ability to right click on some shit someone says and turn it into a task
02:24 < catbeard> :|
02:24 < enix> hello_kitty: is it giving you a failure message?
02:24 < enix> OH
02:24 < enix> Drop it back two spaces
02:24 < hello_kitty> the yaml is wrong, i think
02:24 < enix> User and it's subclasses; drop it back two spaces. Yaml is VERY VERY Particular
02:25 < enix> No
02:25 < catbeard> like python
02:25 < enix> - name and user should be on identical lines
02:25 < catbeard> or rsnapshot configs
02:25 < enix> catbeard: funny that
02:25 < enix> wait really?
02:25 < catbeard> ya
02:25 < catbeard> tab sensitive
02:25 < enix> haven't used rsnapshot in about 100 years
02:26 < catbeard> ah fuck gotta write in lsyncd checks too :|
02:26 < hello_kitty> thanks that worked
02:27 < enix> hello_kitty: be careful with copy/pasting yaml, it's a sure fire way to put your head through your monitor
02:27 < catbeard> may as well just type it all out
02:27 < enix> hello_kitty: that is literally the only thing I learned about ansible when I deployed it lol
02:27 < catbeard> or use an editor that's yaml syntax aware
02:27 < enix> sublimes pretty decent
02:28 < hello_kitty> why do some plays use the user module, and others dont? here's another play copied from linode's tutorials : https://bpaste.net/show/a8cc55a4f1f2
02:28 < DLSteve> I use sublime how most people use note pad. an editor I can quickly open a file with and make some edits.
02:28 <+layer-eight> * hello_kitty →  show at bpaste
02:29 < enix> >linode
02:29 < enix> there you go
02:29 < hello_kitty> or maybe its.. largely the same.. i just dont get the lineinfile part...? is that just... a manual addition of sudo?
02:29 < enix> hello_kitty: you need to add a user to the sudoers file, that's what that does
02:30 < enix> Which is stupid because you should just add the user to the wheel group
02:30 < hello_kitty> i thought the uhm... user:groups: thing would do it on its own
02:30 < hello_kitty> ic
02:30 < hello_kitty> okay well if thats all that is, then that makes sense to me
02:30 < enix> ## Allows people in group wheel to run all commands
02:30 < enix> %wheel  ALL=(ALL)       ALL
02:31 < enix> But let's say you wanted a group that could only do certain sudoy things, you could create a group for that purpose and ajdust that line in /etc/sudoers
02:31 < enix> Then with ansible, assign the new user to the group
02:31 < enix> But that's not the important question you should be asking hello_kitty
02:31 < enix> the important question is; what do you do when a user leaves?
02:31 < enix> How do you automatically remove their access?
02:32 < enix> This has been my biggest gripe with ansible and puppet since 2009.
02:32 < hello_kitty> well luckily for me i'm a newbie operating at the level of "it would be nice if I didnt run everything as root, time to create a user on every server" :D
02:34 < enix> Run as root; learn by experience
02:34 < enix> rmdir != rm -rf != umount
02:34 < enix> dont ask.
02:35 < hello_kitty> i dont know what i typed once.. but it had an -R in it and i lost the ability to sudo
02:35 < hello_kitty> i think i removed sudo somehow
02:35 < hello_kitty> from root
02:35 < enix> Why would root need sudo
02:35 < hello_kitty> well i lost it on my user.. so i came back as root
02:35 < hello_kitty> or maybe.. i deleted root
02:36 < hello_kitty> im not sure, it was bricked one way or the other tho
02:36 < genr8_> wat
02:36 < varesa> also "cp backup/usr/lib64/* /usr/lib64/ -R" == crash
02:36 < varesa> don't ask
02:36 < genr8_> im sure everyones done something horrible with permissions on their linux system at one point
02:36 < hello_kitty> i was just following a tutorial too, typed one part wrong
02:36 < hello_kitty> was a fresh server so i just started over
02:36 < genr8_> as you do
02:36 < enix> hello_kitty: Could have been worst
02:37 < enix> hello_kitty: You could have been entrusted with an entire school districts data at the root level
02:37 < varesa> a typo in /etc/sudoers is one nice way to break sudo for everyone
02:37 < enix> And when I mean district, I mean every private school in a 60km radius
02:37 < varesa> in that case you'd better hope there is a known root password
02:37 < hello_kitty> :x scary
02:37 < enix> and you might have thought rm -rf on a mac delete the mount point, not deleted everything inside of it
02:38 < varesa> ouch
02:38 < hello_kitty> i think i ment to type rm -R ./ and i didnt type the period
02:38 < hello_kitty> it was something close to that
02:39 < varesa> so yeah, tonight there was a customer's DB server where an update broke yum/rpm
02:39 < varesa> I managed to add wget to the list of broken things. While fixing that I crashed the server and noticed that sshd was broken as well... :-|
02:40 < enix> Brooo fucking up iptables rules then restarting iptables
02:40 < enix> on a fucking aws instance
02:40 < hello_kitty> i love to do that... block ssh and reconnect
02:40 < varesa> (nss was partially broken at first, entirely broken after a bit)
02:41 < varesa> Remove management interface, click "Okay", wait, why did the page freeze? I didn't commit the change. Oh wait. This is a pfsense which doesn't know a thing called configuration commit
02:41 < varesa> and only 200km away
02:42 < varesa> my brain was going for "remove interface, create a new interface, commit(-confirm)"
02:42 < varesa> only got to the remove part :-/
02:42 < hello_kitty> so speaking of removing users via ansible... im just repeatedly nuking a server and setting it back up for practice
02:42 < hello_kitty> but in lieu of doing all that for just the server scripts... is there a way to remove it...? :x
02:43 < hello_kitty> * for just testing the create user task
02:43 < enix> Not that I could find
02:43 < hello_kitty> well time to make jimmy0 through jimmy99
02:43 < enix> And that's my whole issue. You DEFINE the configuration, so you should be able to absolutely define all the permitted users on that system and how they're setup, and if they're not in the list they should be deleted
02:44 < enix> It's not "outlining the template of a system" if removing a part of that template doesn't remove it from the system in my eyes
02:44 < enix> Because you then have to create templates to remove templates, and manage multiple sets of templates as things change.
02:44 < varesa> I guess it is doable: https://stackoverflow.com/a/37444005/966508
02:44 <+layer-eight> * varesa →  ⚓  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37441796/ansible-for-user-management-removing-dead-accounts/37444005#37444005 → Ansible for user management -removing dead accounts - Stack Overflow
02:45 < varesa> the resource removal has been what I don't like about using ansible for configuring network devices
02:45 < hello_kitty> what do they mean by an idempotent task when a db is involved? one of my practices is to setup psql... but it seems like creating an object that stores state isnt going to be idempotent
02:45 < varesa> you have to spend a lot of effort on making sure there are no leftover commands in the config
02:46 < coderphive> hello_kitty, idempotent means that you can execute the script multiple times and only things that need to be changed get executed
02:47 < enix> my favorite kind of scripts
02:47 < enix> varesa: I get what you mean, but if you're running a tight gig you can get away with it
02:47 < hello_kitty> so what would a sysadmin expect from a script that installs postgres and turns on the db...? just that it checks to make sure it doesnt already exist?
02:47 < coderphive> An example is if you make changes to pgsql then it conducts a reload with systemd but otherwise does not run reload every time the script runs
02:48 < coderphive> Well
02:48 < enix> hello_kitty: I wouldn't expect it to start pgsql
02:48 < coderphive> There's two stages you're talking about: 1. Bootstrapping/Installing 2. Configuration
02:48 < enix> I would expect it to install with basic config, that's it.
02:48 < varesa> but creating the database needs postgres to be running right?
02:49 < varesa> but still the database creation task should in that case probably just fail if the DB is not running
02:49 < hello_kitty> would i use ansible to change a table definition..?
02:49 < enix> Right.. ansible
02:49 < coderphive> no
02:49 < coderphive> I wouldn't
02:49 < enix> My approach to this; install ansible with base config, configure further based on Ansible role
02:50 < enix> With my MySQL Cluster, I had three different systems defined with steadfast resourcing allocation requirements
02:50 < coderphive> In terms of table config, think about your devs
02:50 < varesa> creating the database, users and grants/permissions is as far as configuration management should go
02:50 < coderphive> Do you want them comitting to your repo in order to update their app?
02:50 < coderphive> Let them handle that
02:50 < coderphive> They key is to enable developers, don't do things for them
02:50 < enix> Each system had their ram/cpu/hdd space predefined, so I installed essential components, ran scripts to configure correctly, bring the new nodes online (or complete new cluster), then let the applications handle the rest
02:50 < varesa> ansible could be used to run a database initialization/migration script though
02:50 < coderphive> varesa, doesn't mean it's a good idea
02:51 < enix> varesa: depends on the requirements
02:51 < coderphive> You can orchestrate infra with ansible too
02:51 < enix> Spinning up new dev systems then yeah sure
02:51 < enix> Rolling out prod; no
02:51 < hello_kitty> i happen to be the dev, but still trying to learn the sysadmin way
02:51 < hello_kitty> leaving what goes actually in the db out of the ansible layer of things sounds fine to me
02:51 < coderphive> hello_kitty, it's a separation of responsibilities
02:51 < enix> hello_kitty: that's fine. Think of ansible as installing the system, let the devs do the rest
02:51 < coderphive> Stand up infrastructure is one responsibility
02:52 < coderphive> Bootstrap for an application is a dev side responsibility
02:52 < enix> Ones ansible, the others docker
02:52 < coderphive> Could be
02:52 < enix> s/docker/for idiots
02:52 <+layer-eight> [SED enix] Ones ansible, the others for idiots
02:52 < coderphive> Docker/Artifacts/etc
02:53 < varesa> the db content should be application responsibility. If you use ansible for a hands-free deployment of the application, then ansible should call the application to do a migration, if applicable
02:53 < coderphive> Artifacts is actually just a good general term there
02:53 < hello_kitty> speaking of which.. i'm not a fan of git checkout to deploy
02:53 < hello_kitty> i prefer git archive and then upload
02:53 < coderphive> ?
02:53 < enix> You do you boo
02:54 < hello_kitty> i can just write that manually into the ansible task right? i noticed it has a git module
02:54 < coderphive> hello_kitty, https://www.amazon.com/Continuous-Delivery-Deployment-Automation-Addison-Wesley/dp/0321601912
02:54 < coderphive> That's a different subject
02:54 < enix> hello_kitty: I just added the server key as pull only to my gitlab repos, then did a checkout with the ansible script
02:55 < coderphive> The way you're using config management I would base it off PR's into master via TBD
02:55 < coderphive> That's bad
02:55 < coderphive> Never store keys in git
02:55 < hello_kitty> i think i have to do something like that this time, or at least it would be much easier than the upload, even if the git pull has extra junk
02:56 < enix> coderphive: why not
02:56 < enix> Thats exactly the reason for keys
02:56 < coderphive> There's so many more secure ways to do that
02:56 < coderphive> In git it's there forever
02:56 < varesa> commit a key to a repository vs add a public key to the repository settings
02:56 < varesa> I think there is a misunderstanding :)
02:56 < enix> Yeah
02:56 < enix> Added to repo settings
02:56 < coderphive> Storing keys in git is pretty bad regardless
02:57 < coderphive> It'd be better off in object storage than git
02:57 < enix> ALTHOUGH.... deploying ssh keys via git WAS common practice at a previous job
02:57 < coderphive> Best solution would be to have some sort of key management like Vault
02:57 < enix> God no
02:58 < enix> Although.. I could hack it to be fallout themed
02:58 < coderphive> Ansible ties directly in with vault IIRC
02:58 < enix> btw i preordered fallout 76
02:58 < enix> OMG I can't wait till I'm a sysadmin again
02:58 < coderphive> but yeah, if you're managing infra don't store keys in git
02:58 < enix> I'm going to have so much fucking fun
02:59 < coderphive> ansible/chef have their own version of Hashi Vault
02:59 < coderphive> That's okay to use
02:59 < enix> Boss: why are we putting all these secrets and keys into hashi vault and rewriting the entire way our infrastructures automated?
03:00 < enix> Me: Because a bloke (i assume) on the internet told me to
03:00 < coderphive> anything that's programattic access
03:00 < varesa> at least ansible has their own thing called vault
03:00 < varesa> that is just for encryption of vars/files
03:00 < enix> OMG i'm going to be able to run i3 !!!
03:01 < coderphive> If you're using purely config management then their CM encrypted storage is fine
03:01 < varesa> not sure if ansible is compatible with hashi vault as well
03:01 < coderphive> but if you plan to do anything more advanced Hashi Vault is really robust
03:01 < coderphive> varesa, I think it is, but don't take my word for it
03:01 < coderphive> varesa, You can always just do REST calls to it
03:04 < varesa> I just recently created a CI pipeline thingy on top of OpenShift in my lab, using Hashi Vault for all the credentials
03:05 < hello_kitty> okay here's my create user hybrid of the ansible manual and linode tutorial... seems to work. https://bpaste.net/show/58da29224e82   do I need something like state: present for the authorized key? is it just automagically  idempotent?
03:05 <+layer-eight> * hello_kitty →  show at bpaste
03:05 < varesa> for every feature-branch pushed to the main repo the "master-CI" will read a YAML file from the repo and create a new pipeline specific to that branch. The newly created pipeline will then deploy an instance of the application together with a DB etc. on top of openshift
03:06 < coderphive> That's idempotent
03:07 < coderphive> It's only going to create the user if the user doesn't exist
03:07 < coderphive> non-idempotent commands would be like, "run this bash command"
03:07 < coderphive> with no checking
03:07 < hello_kitty> also to do things the right way.. would I run this playbook, and then run other playbooks that use jimmy as the user? (as opposed to just making one master playbook that sets up the server in one go)
03:07 < varesa> hello_kitty: if you look at the docs you will see that state=present is default (e.g. if you don't specify it) http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/modules/authorized_key_module.html
03:07 <+layer-eight> * varesa →  authorized_key - Adds or removes an SSH authorized key — Ansible Documentation
03:08 < hello_kitty> and im presuming that authorized_key is smart enough to add keys if I were to add  multiple users? (i honestly dont even know how to do that manually)
03:08 < hello_kitty> i always break my keys :x
03:09 < varesa> and like coderphive said, the indempotence usually comes from the module used. Modules like user, file, authorized_key, etc. are indempotent. Usage of modules like command or shell may or may not be, but that depends on the command/script used
03:11 < varesa> usually you can see the difference in if you're defining a state or describing an action. "user: state=present" or "command: do-various-things-when-called"
03:12 < hello_kitty> awesome
03:35 < sideup66> http://tommy-pickles.ytmnd.com/
03:35 <+layer-eight> * sideup66 →  YTMND - Tommy Pickles is a pimp
03:43 < rpifan> so my mattress looks like a unicorn barfed on it
03:44 < rpifan> ive made tie dye clothes
03:44 < rpifan> for bonnnarooo
03:50 <@JollyRgrs> and you made it... on your mattress?
03:52 < rpifan> yes
03:53 < xe0n> i thought you meant something else...
03:59 < rpifan> lol
04:02 < rum_fiend> welp.... there goes that
04:02 < rum_fiend> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors
04:02 <+layer-eight> * rum_fiend →  Microsoft has reportedly acquired GitHub - The Verge
04:16 < rpifan> sigh
04:19 < katnip> yeah i was reading some of the comments on https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/06/microsoft-buying-github
04:19 <+layer-eight> * katnip →  Microsoft Is Buying GitHub and FOSS Fans Aren't Happy - OMG! Ubuntu!
04:20 < genr8_> its not a bad thing
04:20 < genr8_> everyone wants to make it into a scandal when its not
04:20 < katnip> depends really
04:21 < genr8_> depends on the future
04:21 < genr8_> which isnt written
04:21 < katnip> nadella is moving towards linux which is good
04:21 < katnip> but will he keep that
04:22 < katnip> (github, that is)
04:22 <@cryptic1> all your code belongs to microsoft MUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAH
04:22 <@cryptic1>  /s
04:22 < katnip> oh god
04:23 < coderphive> I hate you guys
04:23 < katnip> all your base belongs to MS
04:23 < coderphive> I hope Oracle buys your OS's
04:23 <@cryptic1> coderphive, dear god no
04:23 < coderphive> yes
04:23 < coderphive> Solaris to all of you
04:23 <@cryptic1> oracle is cancer
04:23 < katnip> ubuntu > *
04:24 < coderphive> All your fates will be illumos
04:24 <@cryptic1> ubuntu is for kids
04:24 < katnip> hah
04:24 < katnip> redhat isnt
04:24 < coderphive> My boss already texted me about moving to GitLab
04:24 < coderphive> like
04:24 < coderphive> fuck me
04:24 < rpifan> why
04:25 < rpifan> whats a gitlab
04:25 <@cryptic1> lol gitlab
04:25 <@cryptic1> didn;t they go down recently
04:25 < coderphive> I don't think you guys get that in the foss dev community, being associated with MS is like being associated with a child molester
04:25 < katnip> that was sourceforge :)
04:25 < genr8_> cant people just not panic ?
04:26 <@cryptic1> https://about.gitlab.com/2017/02/10/postmortem-of-database-outage-of-january-31/
04:26 <+layer-eight> * cryptic1 →  Postmortem of database outage of January 31 | GitLab
04:26 <@cryptic1> LOL
04:26 < katnip> coderphive: ++
04:26 <@cryptic1> accidental removal of primary database
04:26 <@cryptic1> loooooool
04:26 <@cryptic1> devop extreme
04:26 <@cryptic1> devopa extreme
04:26 <@cryptic1> devops extreme
04:26 < coderphive> like some dumb sys admin's never done that
04:26 < coderphive> =|
04:27 < rpifan> my place has moved to bitbucket anyway
04:27 < coderphive> meh
04:27 <@cryptic1> production data loss
04:27 < katnip> bucketlist
04:27 <@cryptic1> unforgivable
04:27 < katnip> i need a bucketlist
04:28 < coderphive> tbh, if you're a bad sys admin you're going to practice devops bad too
04:28 < coderphive> lots of bad sys admins out there
04:28 < katnip> true
04:28 <@cryptic1> you can say that about any profession
04:28 < coderphive> for sure
04:28 < katnip> true
04:28 <@cryptic1> thing is after something like that
04:29 <@cryptic1> why would you ever try you data with such a company that thinks so small
04:29 <@cryptic1> like jesus christ
04:29 < DLSteve> I would laugh but a guy took out our whole prod environment with a bad SAN config change in the middle of the day on Friday...
04:29 < katnip> i would just like to know MS's intent
04:29 < DLSteve> katnip, Money
04:29 < katnip> other than greed
04:29 <@cryptic1> s/try/trust
04:29 <+layer-eight> [SED cryptic1] why would you ever trust you data with such a company that thinks so small
04:30 < katnip> after all the data leaks lately
04:30 < coderphive> Because it was an outage while trying to make things better?
04:30 < coderphive> Everyone has outages
04:31 < jay-ros> wassup bloods (and bloodettes)
04:31 <@cryptic1> outage with data loss for customers
04:31 < katnip> ill be honest, i would have rather of seen google do this than MS
04:31 <@cryptic1> of their small time project
04:31 < coderphive> and I bet that was a big lesson learned
04:31 < DLSteve> Well jokes on them, we use VSTS already so....
04:31 <@cryptic1> pfft google do no evil
04:31 < jay-ros> katnip - this is github purchase?
04:31 <@cryptic1>  /s
04:31 < katnip> jay-ros: yeah
04:32 <@cryptic1> google would just lose interest in a year
04:32 <@cryptic1> and close the project
04:32 < katnip> but what about ms?
04:32 < coderphive> That's actually one of the most in depth post mortems I've read from a company
04:32 < DLSteve> katnip, Eh Google would infest it with ads. MS at least has the money and desire for dev tooling to keep it the way it is.
04:32 <@cryptic1> MS has a history of long term support
04:32 <@cryptic1> what about them?
04:33 < katnip> i think google has some good programs
04:33 < katnip> i hated them till about 3 mos ago
04:33 < genr8_> this GitLab post-mordem article is a good lesson on what NOT to do, so i thank them for that much
04:33 <@cryptic1> google is all about ads and datamining
04:33 < katnip> DLSteve knows of this
04:33 < DLSteve> Google has killed anything that was not profitable.
04:33 < katnip> G Suite has worked well for them
04:34 < jay-ros> It makes sense for MS to purchase github; they've realised over time that if they provide microsoft licensing for linux-based environments, they can still charge microsoftmoney to linux users
04:34 < DLSteve> G Suite costs money and is profitable.
04:34 < jay-ros> ...like outlook on an iphone
04:34 < katnip> yes, i like G Suite, it's partly why i came over
04:34 <@cryptic1> did you all forget https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/24/microsoft-now-uses-git-and-gvfs-to-develop-windows/
04:34 <+layer-eight> * cryptic1 →  Microsoft now uses Git and GVFS to develop Windows – TechCrunch
04:35 <@cryptic1> they are not exactly going to drop git
04:35 < DLSteve> jay-ros, also their AI and attach everything to Azure with IoT Edge strategy plays into this.
04:35 < katnip> how do europeans feel about this?
04:35 < DLSteve> One US company buys another?
04:36 < jay-ros> yeah, full container driven environments
04:36 < katnip> that line in that article about MS being a NSA partner...
04:36 <@cryptic1> who isn't at this point
04:36 < coderphive> That post mortem makes me think of the importance of automation instead of hand-rolling. What that guy did is the opposite of devops.
04:36 < jay-ros> katnip, in the 'National Security Aggregation' sense, or the 'No Strings Attached' sense?
04:36 < DLSteve> Every US company willing or not is an NSA "partner" including GitHub.
04:37 < katnip> cryptic1: that's my point, there is only about 3 hubs
04:37 < katnip> level 3 and 2 others i believe
04:37 < MillerBoss> cryptic1: saving the day one loot crate at a time.
04:38 < DLSteve> katnip, If you want your data safe from the NSA just use https://www.alibabacloud.com/
04:38 <+layer-eight> * DLSteve →  An integrated suite of cloud products, services and solutions | Alibaba Cloud
04:38 <@cryptic1> please do not hesitate to purchase #reddit-sysadmin loot crates
04:38 < MillerBoss> Do I need to set up a website for this?
04:38 < katnip> DLSteve: OMG
04:38 < MillerBoss> `echo yes MillerBoss.
04:38 <+layer-eight> MillerBoss.
04:38 < MillerBoss> Uhh
04:38 < MillerBoss> `echo  yes MillerBoss.
04:38 <+layer-eight> yes MillerBoss.
04:39 < MillerBoss> I need to improve trollme.xyz
04:39 < MillerBoss> Get ready for a ear worm.
04:40 < DLSteve> katnip, Chinese government will not hand over your data to the dirty Americans.
04:40 < katnip> DLSteve: trump is getting pretty nice with the chinese now
04:41  * coderphive chilly silence
04:41 <@cryptic1> american jobs? who needs em
04:41 < katnip> robots
04:41 < katnip> want fries with that?
04:42 < MillerBoss> No thanks.
04:42 < MillerBoss> Watching my figure.
04:42 <@cryptic1> freedom fries only plz
04:42 < coderphive> eat it fatty
04:43 < misspwn_> um i'll take some fries tho
04:43 < coderphive> also
04:43 < coderphive> can we talk about chik-fil-a,whataburger fries > *
04:43 < katnip> lol
04:43 < misspwn_> those waffles fries are pretty good
04:43 < katnip> with jalapeno's
04:44 <@JollyRgrs> CFA wins
04:44 < katnip> cheese fries
04:44 <@JollyRgrs> though whataburger's jalepeno ranch is good to dip fries in
04:44 < coderphive> whew
04:44 < coderphive> you're making me sweat
04:45 < misspwn_> we don't have a whataburger here but we just recently got a shake shack and people are hating on it so much. i thought shake shack had pretty decent burgers/fries
04:45 < coderphive> as long as it's not communist 5 guys amirite?
04:45 < misspwn_> man, fuck those 5 guys
04:45 <@JollyRgrs> nothing wrong with 5 guys
04:45 <@JollyRgrs> cept the price
04:45 < coderphive> and
04:45 < coderphive> the guys
04:45 <@JollyRgrs> but i've never had a bad exp. there
04:45 <@JollyRgrs> well, sometimes the guys are girls
04:46 <@JollyRgrs> and not always is it 5
04:46 <@JollyRgrs> so false advertising maybe
04:46 < coderphive> lmao
04:46 < misspwn_> ok even shake shack is pricey for what it is. but 5 guys i don't like that they put your fries on top of your burger. only once did they give me a separate bag for the fries
04:46 <@JollyRgrs> but food? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcJFdCmN98s
04:46 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → OH MY DAYUM - NOW ON iTUNES !!! → ⚘ 35,551,820 ↑ 462,858 ↓ 6,079 ✍ 52,101
04:46 < coderphive> look
04:46 < coderphive> Whataburger wronged me when they took away the A1 Thick n Hardy
04:47 < coderphive> so Chik-fil-a is in first rn
04:47 < misspwn_> places like that where you have to buy your sides separate and drinks seperate kinda lose interest to me. like it had be a pretty damn good place to have me purchase it extra
04:48 <@JollyRgrs> 5 guys is best when you go w/ a date/wife/etc.
04:48 <@JollyRgrs> you split the fries... one gets teh cup, the other gets the baggies
04:48 < misspwn_> they do give you a bunch of fries
04:48 <@JollyRgrs> first time there, i made the mistake of large fry
04:48 < misspwn_> chik fil a though is on point with their sammiches
04:48 < misspwn_> haha yeah!
04:49 <@JollyRgrs> also... if you only want one patty, go jr burger... those are still huge
04:49 <@JollyRgrs> oh yeah... cept i'm mad at CFA
04:49 <@JollyRgrs> they took away my spicy grilled chicken
04:49 <@JollyRgrs> and their spicy wrap was great
04:49 < coderphive> first of all
04:49 < misspwn_> oh they only have it fried now
04:49 <@JollyRgrs> i dunno what change they did... but their wraps since they went down to just that one... is terrible
04:49 <@JollyRgrs> misspwn_: yup
04:49 < coderphive> can we not use the term single, I prefer "independent"
04:49 < misspwn_> no
04:50 < misspwn_> maybe "loser"?
04:50 < coderphive> the "loser" patty
04:50 < misspwn_> independent implies that you can't function in a relationship
04:50 <@JollyRgrs> coderphive: depends on the reason for being single
04:50 <@JollyRgrs> independent implies it is by choice
04:50 < coderphive> uhm
04:50 < misspwn_> sounds like some incel shit
04:51 <@JollyRgrs> lets just say SINGLE
04:51 < coderphive> because I'm a independent patty that doesn't need no cheese in my life
04:51 <@JollyRgrs> you can be a single BAMF or a single "wish-i-had-a-date" but all are still single
04:51 < coderphive> JollyRgrs, don't try to bring your "animal style" around this patty
04:57 < MillerBoss> What in the flying fuck is Sally taking these days? https://twitter.com/sally_field/status/1002264847449550848
04:57 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Sally Field on Twitter: "I like Samantha Bee a lot, but she is flat wrong to call Ivanka a cunt.   Cunts are powerful, beautiful, nurturing and honest."
04:57 < MillerBoss> >Cunts
05:01 < jay-ros> That's really funny
05:01 < jay-ros> ...in the fact that twitter round-trip exists
05:01 < jay-ros> not funny-clown-funny
05:01 < katnip> i think it's /s
05:02 < jay-ros> more like depressingly-drunk-clown-funny
05:03 < MillerBoss> I liked her in Smokey and the Bandit
05:04 < MillerBoss> Microsoft would buy Twitter next so it can go to die.
05:04 < MillerBoss> s/wo/sho
05:04 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss] Microsoft should buy Twitter next so it can go to die.
05:04 < MillerBoss> Thanks layer-eight
05:04 < MillerBoss> `bofh
05:05 <+layer-eight> BOFH Digital manipulator exceeding velocity parameters
05:07 < MillerBoss> This is more just sharing and not political talk mods. :P
05:07 < MillerBoss> Oh no, not Jim Carrey too. :(( https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/1002594696470847489
05:07 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Jim Carrey on Twitter: "The WORST TERROR a child can experience is being taken from their parents. Would blonde, blue-eyed children ever be treated so brutally at our border? Would 4,600 Puerto Ricans have been left to die if they were "white"? NO. Tru...
05:08 < MillerBoss> Wow he is still on his art/painting kick. Look at his twitter.
05:11 < jay-ros>  MillerBoss - that response from JonHamm...
05:11 < MillerBoss> As seen in Comedians Getting In Cars Getting Coffee https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6fbi1g
05:11 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee S06 E03 Jim Carrey  We Love Breathing What You re Burning  Baby - Dailymotion Video
05:11 < Markdown1_> Gitlab is now live, answering questions about migration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKS6gJtTZes
05:11 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  YouTube → GitLab Live → ⚘ 317 ↑ 41 ↓ 4 ✍ 0
05:11 < MillerBoss> Wow that is neat Markdown1_
05:12 < Markdown1_> https://about.gitlab.com/
05:12 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  The only single product for the complete DevOps lifecycle - GitLab | GitLab
05:12 < Markdown1_> Gimp Moved to Gitlab
05:12 < jay-ros> Why are they using a google platform (youtube) for Microsoft-based communication?
05:13 < MillerBoss> They are using Zoom
05:13 < Markdown1_> Microsoft based?
05:13 < MillerBoss> Zoom can bee white labeled too
05:14 < jay-ros> Github communcations Markdown1_
05:14 < MillerBoss> Ring Central meetings is Zoom
05:14 < Markdown1_> they are helping people to move away from GitHub
05:14 < MillerBoss> jay-ros: Where is the link on JonHamm?
05:14 < jay-ros> MillerBoss, it was the first thing I saw as a comment under jim carrey's tweet
05:15 < jay-ros> it's not actually jon hamm though
05:15 < MillerBoss> Oh.
05:17 < MillerBoss> Obviously, everyone is free to say what is on their mind but seeing your favorite actors and actresses say this stupid shit makes people want to distance themselves from them. I can't see Dumb and Dumber the same anymore for example.
05:17 < MillerBoss> Oh well. Life goes on. :P
05:21 < katnip> Dumb and Dumber = Trump and Pence ??? :)
05:21 < MillerBoss> Not even close.
05:26 < MillerBoss> jay-ros: Are you ready for the week? Anything exciting going on?
05:26 < jay-ros> MillerBoss, I'm already on a mother truckin' roll
05:27 < MillerBoss> Good job.
05:27 < jay-ros> My manager upgraded the cluster on the head office side, broke a fucktonne of stuff along the way
05:28 < Markdown1_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DezYRUbXkAIFVKf.jpg
05:28 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 70,765 bytes
05:28 < jay-ros> I've upgraded the firmware on one of the data center side servers, and I've now got a shiny tick on VMM for server migration on Hyper V
05:28 < jay-ros> (hyper v cluster infra)
05:29 < Markdown1_> https://twitter.com/hashtag/movingtogitlab
05:29 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  #movingtogitlab hashtag on Twitter
05:42 < MillerBoss> Could you imagine if the story, I highly doubt it though, is totally fake. Its interesting how a news publication can post an article with "sources" and so much happens as far as people's actions from the news. Even on a Sunday.
05:46 < rpifan> people get very excitedabout this bonnaroo thing it seems
05:46 < rpifan> even more then they do about ultra
06:02 < misspwn_> hey rpifan how screwed am i? fell asleep at 800 and woke up at 930 or so
06:02 < misspwn_> i am wide awake...
06:03 < Virtual-Potato> just get some benadryl
06:04 < misspwn_> maybe half a dose? i don't want to be groggy or sleep through an alarm in a zombie state
06:04 < Virtual-Potato> meh you're going to be groggy anyways
06:04 < misspwn_> haha i have zzzquil which is like top shelf benadryl
06:04 < Virtual-Potato> why pay more for that crap
06:05 < Virtual-Potato> when you can just buy generic benadryl (diphenhydramine)
06:05 < Virtual-Potato> pennies on the dollar
06:05 < ned0> wth this job ad
06:06 < Virtual-Potato> >ad
06:06 < ned0> required experience first bullet point
06:06 < misspwn_> don't really have a good answer to that. the gel tabs i liked more than regular pills. so i guess my only excuse is i'm a terrible pill taker to the point sometimes i might barf
06:06 < Virtual-Potato> you answered your own question
06:06 < ned0>  * Proven experience as a systems admin within a $billion+ organization.
06:06 < Virtual-Potato> misspwn_, place pill on tongue, grab beverage of choice, pretend pill isn't there, drink and swallor
06:06 < Virtual-Potato> swallow!
06:06 < Virtual-Potato> *
06:06 < Virtual-Potato> I can't type ffs
06:07 < misspwn_> most times that works, suppose the benadryl is smaller than say the horsepill of an ibuprofen i've had to take. i know it's mind over matter with those. i've always been a shit pill taker
06:07 <@JollyRgrs> i lernt by swallowing green beans and peas
06:07 <@JollyRgrs> i ahted them, and i had to eat them
06:07 <@JollyRgrs> so i just swallowed whole
06:08 < misspwn_> and friday i'm getting lasik so i'm already panicked with that
06:08 < Virtual-Potato> JollyRgrs, so you're saying green beans and peas lead to people popping pills?
06:08 < misspwn_> to go from being legally blind to being able to see is 30 years comin
06:08 <@JollyRgrs> mebbe?
06:08 < Virtual-Potato> I KNEW IT. I just *KNEW* green beans and peas were dangerous
06:09 < Virtual-Potato> and don't get me started on the green 'trees'
06:09 < Virtual-Potato> those are sketchy as hell too
06:09 < misspwn_> gateway veg
06:09 < Virtual-Potato> ^
06:09 < Virtual-Potato> 30 years of being legally blind
06:09 < Virtual-Potato> dang
06:09 < Virtual-Potato> I think I might need to get glasses soon, idk
06:10 < Virtual-Potato> I mean, I normally see things just fine.. but being at the DMV testing my sight has made me second guess myself.
06:10 < misspwn_> man i didn't know. i mean i *knew* my vision was bad but no one ever told me that it was uh that bad? i'd always just get my glasses and see better-ish
06:10 < katnip> i have 3 pair
06:10 < misspwn_> but yeah without glasses i can't see much. with glasses i can have my laptop on my lap and still have trouble with text
06:11 < Virtual-Potato> but it's weird for me - my sight changes depending on the time of the day
06:11 < misspwn_> and night time driving is just terrible. i always associated with night time driving anxiety, turns out i just had so much bad glare that it terrified me because well i couldn't see great
06:12 < misspwn_> they told me i'd get some valium before the procedure, maybe they will let me sneak an extra
06:13 < javi404> im just getting into this convo now so I have probably missed a lot
06:13 < javi404> but if you are in the IT biz, then yes, valium = good
06:13 < javi404> especially mixed with booze
06:13 < javi404> that is a monday morning recipe misspwn_
06:14 < Virtual-Potato> inb4 "Why can't I remember anything from the past 24 hours?"
06:14 < javi404> coffee
06:14 < javi404> Virtual-Potato: drugs is the answer
06:14 < javi404> haha
06:14 < javi404> J/K
06:19 < misspwn_> hah javi404 no i was telling em that friday i get lasik and they told me i could take a valium before
06:19 < misspwn_> but yeah i could see taking that on the reg to make not giving a shit easier
06:26 < enix> drugs = life
06:27 < misspwn_> what kind we talkin?
06:30 < Markdown1_> Aspirin
06:31 < misspwn_> well that sounds borin , but heart healthy
06:34 < rpifan> sigh work again
06:34 < rpifan> tho bonnaroo this week
06:34 < rpifan> exciting and scary
06:35 < jay-ros> coffee is life too
06:37 < MillerBoss> >Our new “LinkedIn http://Code.NET  365 for Business” will use Active Directory and work on Skype and XBOX.
06:37 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  ⚓  http://source.code.net/ → /source/code/net
06:37 < javi404> misspwn_: aspirin is good for the brain also
06:39 < misspwn_> not about to start an asprin regimine. did you know they advise against people under the age of 18 to not take asprin
06:39 < jay-ros> misspwn_ generically or individually?
06:40 < rpifan> but thats int he US mostly
06:40 < rpifan> globally aspirin is still quite common
06:42 < misspwn_> yeah but a daily use of it is not ideal unless your doctor monitors it
06:42  * MillerBoss chuckles https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/03/microsoft-acquires-github/
06:44 < misspwn_> not sure if this is a good thing or not
06:44 < misspwn_> microsoft is just trying to get whatever it can
06:44 < MillerBoss> Its all in the eye of the beholder.
06:45 < MillerBoss> Its fun to poke at it but who knows.
06:45 < misspwn_> hopefully github doesn't get ruined
06:46 < rpifan> it will
06:48 < MillerBoss> LETS ALL MOVE TO SOURCEFORGE GUYZ
06:48 < Virtual-Potato> nah lets move to my own custom, hosted solution
06:49 < Virtual-Potato> You'll all just RDP into my machine, where there'll be a single window of notepad++ running. You can save in a folder with names like code_version_2-fixed-2.txt... That's source control, right?
06:50 < jay-ros> zombo.com seems like the smart approach here guys, it's universally practical
06:50 < MillerBoss> Yes, where do I sign up?
06:50 < Virtual-Potato> Oh, this is a subscription service
06:50 < Virtual-Potato> $50 per month
06:50 < rpifan> whats a zombo
06:50 < Virtual-Potato> You're a zombo
06:51 < Virtual-Potato> GOTEM
06:52 < jay-ros> you can do pretty much everything at zombo.com
06:52 < jay-ros> ...anything at all.
06:52 < jay-ros> the only limit is yourself
06:53 < rpifan> is this like felda
06:53 < jay-ros> felda has limitations
06:53 < rpifan> lol
06:53 < rpifan> like
06:53 < jay-ros> zombo.com has no restructions... except for your imagination
06:54 < jay-ros> restrictions*
06:54 < rpifan> lol
06:56 < jay-ros> crackup day - a few weeks ago we were having firewall issues (our ASAs were blowing up due to a cisco ios issue), so we were testing uptime while making changes
06:56 < rpifan> for felda?
06:56 < jay-ros> zombo.com audio kept blasting from different areas of the team's desks, checking uptime
06:56 < jay-ros> "WELCOME...TO ZOMBOCOM. WELCOME."
06:56 < jay-ros> no, felda is its own thing.
06:56 < rpifan> why is felda broken
06:57 < jay-ros> I don't know
06:57 < rpifan> where did u get the voiceover
06:57 < jay-ros> 'you'?
06:57 < jay-ros> that site is like 20 years old
06:57 < rpifan> oh idk
07:17 < jay-ros> *sigh* it's so quiet
07:17 < jay-ros> what're people working on?
07:17 < MillerBoss> WHAT?
07:17 < jay-ros> I'm waiting on BIOS updates on my server
07:17 < MillerBoss> Watching https://itpro.tv/course-library/managing-macos-servers-1013/profile-manager2-macosserver-1013/
07:17 < jay-ros> (it's 3pm here)
07:18 < jay-ros> ooh!
07:18 < jay-ros> oh fuck, I totally have a subscription to pluralsight
07:19 < jay-ros> and some other online training one I haven't even looked at
07:19 < jay-ros> (we've got it free through the business)
07:19 < MillerBoss> Way to go yo
07:28 < jay-ros> Hahaha there's a course for building a citrix xendesktpo/xenapp 7.6 training video set on plural sight
07:28 < jay-ros> 16 hours; I had mine fired up in 3
07:41 < nojeffrey> We are getting 50/50 internet upgrade, Telstra installed NTU, and our ISP has supplied a Cisco 4300, is this 4300 needed if we have Fortigates already?
08:07 < jay-ros> Nojeffrey - yeah, you run the NTU into the router
08:07 < jay-ros> it's a fibre termination, so it needs to be there.
08:07 < jay-ros> you can run it into the router directly, but it's best practise to run the NTU
08:08 < nojeffrey> But can the fortigates not route? I want to know if i can skip the 4300 and just go NTU > Fortigates
08:10 < jay-ros> Yeah, you could
08:10 < nojeffrey> K, ta
08:10 < jay-ros> If you've got as much control on the firewall as you need, you don't need the router really
08:12 < jay-ros> Fortinet Fortigate? like a 1000?
08:18 < nojeffrey> 100D's
08:19 < jay-ros> https://www.fortinet.com/content/dam/fortinet/assets/data-sheets/FortiGate_100D_Series.pdf
08:19 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 2,346,187 bytes
08:19 < jay-ros> the datasheet a couple of pages down suggests the intention is to run the device as a router in the first place.
08:19 < plop> morning!
08:19 < coderphive> you were going to rely on the NTU's routing abilities?
08:19 < coderphive> =|
08:20 < nojeffrey> our last XHDSL connection/router only had 1 port out, so we couldn't do HA properly without adding a switch in between, when we went to upgrade this time we asked for a router with at least 3 ports, thus why they gave us this 4300, but it only has 2 ethernet ports
08:20 < nojeffrey> doesn't have any additional slots/cards installed
08:21 < jay-ros> So you've got an NTU and two 100Ds (also, howdy plop!), then you've got two fortigates running alongside each other?
08:21 < nojeffrey> yes
08:21 < jay-ros> first point of failure being the NTU dropping, yes?
08:22 < nojeffrey> I guess, dont know how to mitigate that  though
08:22 < nojeffrey> we have 2nd wan too though
08:23 < jay-ros> 4G backup modem usually a reasonable option
08:24 < jay-ros> if you've got failover/cutover WAN not too bad
08:24 < plop> yeah. i just ordered one
08:24 < jay-ros> Telstra has 4g paddle failover
08:24 < jay-ros> I can find out the service name for you?
08:24 < nojeffrey> telstra 10mbit ADSL is our backup
08:25 < jay-ros> that's more than enough, as long as you have the logical functionality of cutting over
08:25 < jay-ros> "Sorry guys, the internet is down... so you'll have to temporarily use slower internet"
08:25 < jay-ros> complaints:0
08:25 < nojeffrey> yep it's been running for ~8 months
08:25 < nojeffrey> they barely notice
08:25 < jay-ros> have you performed a live cutout?
08:26 < nojeffrey> yeah
08:26 < jay-ros> nice
08:27 < xe0n> jay-ros: :)
08:27 < jay-ros> hi xeon :)
08:27 < xe0n> saarrrpp
08:27 < jay-ros> not much, just upgradin' infrastructure n' stuff
08:28 < xe0n> sweet
08:28 < nojeffrey> coderphive so having the 4300 in front of the NTU is benificial because QoS? Anything else?
08:28 < jay-ros> does the firewall have QOS configuration nojeffrey
08:30 < nojeffrey> jay-ros I havee some traffic shaping rules, but dont recall seeing or configuring anything to do with Qos when I installed ~8 months ago
08:30 < xe0n> fortigate?
08:30 < xe0n> it has it somewhere
08:30 < xe0n> fortinet whatever
08:30 < jay-ros> it has TOS
08:30 < xe0n> who gives a TOS
08:30 < xe0n> LOl
08:30 < jay-ros> lol
08:31 < jay-ros> config system interface > edit <interface_name> set inbandwidth <rate_int> set outbandwidth <rate_int> in KB
08:31 < jay-ros> http://cookbook.fortinet.com/traffic-shaping-priq/
08:31 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros →  Traffic Shaping Priority Queueing (PRIQ) - Fortinet Cookbook
08:32 < jay-ros> seems reasonable
08:32 < jay-ros> uurgh... I hate being patient
08:33 < jay-ros> stupid firmware upgrade takes 4 hours to run through
08:35 < nojeffrey> thanks jay-ros once I get this 50/50 working, I'll do ToS/QoS properly
08:36 < jay-ros> Yeah, make sure you put VOIP up there right at the tippy-top, put video streaming at the bottom, and block catalogue.microsoft to a single WSUS machine, and you're pretty set in most circumstances
08:37 < jay-ros> depending on the size of your infra - if you're sporting less than 2x48 plus wifi you shouldn't have issues
08:37 < nojeffrey> right now I have a bunch of categories(win updates, dropbox, gdrive, etc), if traffic is one of these they get limited to 5mbit, not the best way to do it
08:38 < nojeffrey> 2x48?
08:38 < jay-ros> Throttle down single user to xmb per sec and the entire wireless network to %/total network so users don't fuck your office network (so they're fighting for bandwidth)
08:38 < jay-ros> nojeffrey - are they 24 port firewalls or 48?
08:38 < jay-ros> 2x24 less infra
08:38 < nojeffrey> ah 2x24
08:46 < jay-ros> xe0n - my manager had fucked up the upgrades of the sydney office for our hyperv servers
08:47 < jay-ros> ...I've taken over in the data centre - I'm on my second now, but my first one I did now has a nice green tick on VMM for 'network optimization'
08:53 < xe0n> hoorayy
08:53 < xe0n> monday  beers
08:53 < xe0n> jay-ros's shout :D
08:56 < jay-ros> xe0n - yeah, my lazy 'just install every driver' worked perfectly
08:57 < jay-ros> then I went through and installed all of the .exe drivers individually - about an hour tops
08:57 < xe0n> sweet
08:57 < jay-ros> luckily I'm just updating drivers, not installing and configuring NIC cards, so I don't need to learn how to set it all up
09:10 < medard> Hello guys. Recently some of our VMs started freezing randomly. They can be pinged but not much more beyond that. They are windows servers 2008,2012 or 2016. Some servers freeze often, some never, all on the same host machine. Any suggestions?
09:19 <+A-KO> the host machine has issues
09:19 <+A-KO> VMs don't 'randomly' freeze without there being a serious problem
09:19 <+A-KO> so it's either host machine issues, or some other 3rd party software you've got running on the VMs
09:19 <+A-KO> but brb restarting
09:23 < medard> A-KO: But some VMs on the host machines never freeze. We struggle to find any similarities. This started happening like a month ago or less.
09:25 <+A-KO> it's hardware or 3rd party software
09:25 <+A-KO> one or the other
09:25 <+A-KO> I'm *guaranteeing* this
09:25 <+A-KO> Windows doens't just freeze
09:25 <+A-KO> I mean, it *can*
09:25 <+A-KO> but not THAT consistently
09:25 <+A-KO> I have run hundreds of thousands of hours of Windows VMs in production stacks over the years.
09:26 <+A-KO> I would look at either two things
09:26 < medard> its not hardware because then other machines would freeze too, is it possible that some windows update is doing this?
09:26 <+A-KO> hardware configuration problems (check your NUMA settings, etc.)
09:26 <+A-KO> no
09:26 <+A-KO> it's not possible
09:26 <+A-KO> I run a variety of Windows boxes from 2008, to 2008R2, to 2012, to 2012R2, to 2016 in production.
09:26 <+A-KO> I assure you, it's not a windows update
09:26 <+A-KO> ESPECIALLY virtualized
09:26 <+A-KO> So you have one of two things happening
09:26 <+A-KO> it IS a hardware problem, OR you have security software loaded that isn't playing nicely
09:27 <+A-KO> The former is likely the issue, the latter is becoming more common
09:27 < medard> then how do you explain other machines not freezing if its the hardware?
09:27 <+A-KO> Many environments require more security software to be packaged on Windows than on Linux platforms. Particularly software like FireEye or Carbonblack
09:28 <+A-KO> There's any number of reasons for that to be the case, which could include host configuration, decisions on which vnics/vswitches/etc to use, all of that. I don't know your environment.
09:28 <+A-KO> I once encountered an issue (and it took an embarrassingly long time before I found it), where a single host in our VM cluster was using the management NIC for its ISCSI traffic to the SAN. And VMs I loaded on it would slow down for some unknown reason.
09:28 < medard> this literally started happening overnight and we didn't change anything, only thing possible would be some windows update. We don't even update security software automaticlly.
09:28 <+A-KO> it's not a windows update
09:29 < medard> we had a problem with windows update before
09:29 <+A-KO> I'm running the latest cumulative updates on my environment
09:29 <+A-KO> it isn't crashing like this
09:29 <+A-KO> otherwise I wouldn't have weekends
09:29 < medard> some security update started restarting network interfaces in gues machines
09:29 <+A-KO> that's not a security update problem
09:29 <+A-KO> that's a virtual environment problem
09:30 < medard> well you're a big help :D
09:30 <+A-KO> I assure you, 100%, the problem you're having is either hardware or security software
09:30 <+A-KO> guaranteed
09:30 <+A-KO> If you're using just straight Windows Defender, then it's not the security software
09:30 <+A-KO> if you have ANYTHING ELSE loaded
09:30 <+A-KO> it could be the situation
09:30 < medard> and I assure you, 100%, it's not hardware issue.
09:30 < medard> eh, whatever
09:30 <+A-KO> Microsoft has support cases
09:30 <+A-KO> if you think it's a Windows issue
09:31 <+A-KO> call them
09:31 <+A-KO> contact your fucking TAM and don't ask for help on IRC if you don't want the answer
09:31 <+A-KO> Microsoft will figure it out, and when they do, you're going to get charged for it, because it's not a windows update issue
09:31 <+A-KO> if it's a Widnows Update issue, the costs are free
09:31 <+A-KO> so
09:31 <+A-KO> if you THINK TRULY IN YOUR HEART THAT IT'S A WINDOWS ISSUE, call them
09:31 <+A-KO> they'll figure it out, you'll get a patch, and the charge is $0
09:32 <+A-KO> If you DON'T THINK THIS
09:32 <+A-KO> then I dunno what else to tell you
09:32 <+A-KO> Microsoft's Azure platform is built ENTIRELY on Windows
09:32 <+A-KO> they run the 2nd largest cloud provider in the world *on Windows*
09:32 <+A-KO> it's not Windows
09:36 <+A-KO> fucking love you people who think you know more than the company that writes the software itself.
09:36 <+A-KO> and runs billions of dollars worth of environments on the platform
09:37 <+A-KO> The linux community is so freaking useless these days. I would imagine the # of people that even bother to roll their own kernels these days is few and far in between (opting for the cloud-provided kernel) ; and the number of people who even know how to do that shit is diminishing
09:37 < xe0n> lolll
09:44 < CoJaBo> so, rsync just corrupted a file. this is kinda scary
10:00 < ceofreak> Goooodeee
10:41 < Atro> Anyone ever desired to have a common calendar for work/personal?
10:42 < Atro> I cant seem to import an Outlook calendar into google maps and sync, but i can do the reverse
10:54 < scwizard> ummmmmmmmmmm..............
10:54 < scwizard> by trying to create a database I may have broken us-east-1c >_>
10:55 < scwizard> i hope none of you are all in on one availability zone
10:56 < scwizard> "4:12 PM PDT Beginning at 2:52 PM PDT, we experienced connectivity issues affecting some database instances in a single Availability Zone in the US-EAST-1 Region. Multi-AZ database instances functioned correctly and remain available. A small number of Single-AZ database instances remain unavailable and we are working to resolve the issue."
10:57 < scwizard> 3:52 on thursday was pretty much exactly when I tried to create this database, and the creation process got stuck
10:57 < scwizard> erm wait PDT is hmm
10:58 < scwizard> i created it before then
10:59 < scwizard> anyways glitchiness happened for me and then a couple hours later the AZ is broke for RDS
10:59 < scwizard> just got support to delete the db (it was stuck deleting from my end) and then tried recreating and same glitchiness
10:59 < scwizard> so the AZ might break again
11:05 < catbeard> It was youuuu
11:09 < plop> sup ceofreak! long time no see
11:09 < ceofreak> sup plop
11:09 < ceofreak> yes, I was utterly demotivated before my holiday and then went on the holiday
11:09 < plop> where to?
11:09 < plop> beach?
11:09 < ceofreak> Yessir, Croatia
11:10 < plop> nice.
11:10 < ceofreak> Was super nice
11:10 < ceofreak> slightly less demotivated now
11:10 < ceofreak> :D
11:10 < plop> but still hah
11:10 < catbeard> Isn't that where they found that Sagger missile UXO
11:10 < plop> in a DC?
11:11 < catbeard> Ya
11:11 < catbeard> Well DC might be a stretch.  IT server closet
11:13 < plop> right right
11:16 < catbeard> Wild.  Anyhow hi ceofreak
11:17 < ceofreak> Supppp catbeard
11:18 < catbeard> Laying down and catching up on emails
11:18 < catbeard> About bedtime for bonzo
11:20 < plop> emails? what is that
11:20 < ceofreak> I came back from holiday
11:20 < ceofreak> ctrl + A + del
11:20 < ceofreak> every single time
11:21 < catbeard> Mine are filter ruled colored and categorized like a Christmas tree
11:21 < ceofreak> From biggest to smallest asshole?
11:21 < catbeard> Something like that
11:21 < ceofreak> Solid
11:21 < plop> `bofh
11:21 <+layer-eight> BOFH Due to federal budget problems we have been forced to cut back on the number of users able to access the system at one time. (namely none allowed....)
11:22 < plop> `first-seen MillerBoss
11:22 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for plop
11:22 < plop> hmmmm
11:22 < catbeard> Bug?
11:23 < plop> yeah. MillerBoss is on it.
11:23 < plop> `last-seen catbeard
11:23 < catbeard> Maybe it only works when I'm opped
11:23 < catbeard> :)
11:23 < plop> `seen catbeard
11:23 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for plop
11:23 < plop> meh
11:24 < plop> `shower-thought
11:24 <+layer-eight> Shower Thought → Snakes kill in two ways: with hugs and with kisses
11:39 < L3gacy> Taco taco nacho burrito, peeps
11:40 < L3gacy> Anyone awake?
11:41 < ceofreak> barely
11:41 < plop> yup
11:41 < L3gacy> We need bacon tacos
11:41 < L3gacy> I'm applying for SSI today
11:41 < L3gacy> I need to "do me" and recuperate
11:42 < L3gacy> Hopefully, I'll get back into the workforce soon
11:43 < L3gacy> Can anyone recommend a good 3 router, three switch setup, with USB console cables, for cisco, that has gigabit?
11:45 <+ihre> https://i.imgur.com/fYyzdFw.png
11:45 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 247,523 bytes
11:46 < L3gacy> ihre: looking to get my CCENT and CCNA
11:50 <+ihre> https://supportforums.cisco.com/t5/lan-switching-and-routing/ccna-home-lab-for-all-categories-2018/td-p/3307531
11:50 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Solved:  CCNA HOME LAB FOR ALL CATEGORIES 2018 - Cisco Support Community
11:53 < plop> i'm installing eclipse/che and it is so crazy
12:20 <+CheckYourSix> So. Tired.
12:20 < plop> netsplit \o/
12:41 < nojeffrey> Just switched over to business grade 50/50 fiber with Exetel, and getting around 42mbit down(at ~8:40pm), the corporate support guy said its not possible to acheieve the agreed upon speed the higher the speed you go, this sounds like bs to me
13:08 < FenJai> Afternoon all
13:08 < FenJai> Does anyone know how you can stop a joe jobs style attack ?
13:08 < FenJai> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job
13:08 <+layer-eight> * FenJai →  Joe job - Wikipedia
13:15 < nojeffrey> FenJai spf?
13:18 < FenJai> Doesnt spf have to be widely implemented for it to work nojeffrey ? Basically asking everyone else to verify an email address
13:19 < nojeffrey> ohh they forge the reply-to address?
13:19 < nojeffrey> it is widely implemented
13:20 < nojeffrey> SPF just proves an email came from a certain email server
13:21 < nojeffrey> if they are setting something different in the reply-to, I don;t think SPF would stop this
13:24 < FenJai> So in our case, one of our users was getting a lot of email from mail servers claiming the address they were trying to get to was unreachable
13:25 < FenJai> They were getting responses from thousands of mail servers but the user's address was spoofed
13:25 < FenJai> SO they sent nothing but were getting a ton of error messages
13:27 < nojeffrey> So someone is trying to spoof your email/domain, and the errors are coming back to your actual users?
13:28 < FenJai> Yeah
13:28 < nojeffrey> SPF should just drop the emails when it fails
13:28 < nojeffrey> run: "dig TXT yourdomain.com" anything SPF related?
13:29 < FenJai> Yeah, we've got a record up
13:30 < FenJai> metlase.com.            10799   IN      TXT     "v=spf1 mx a ip4:31.28.64.80/28 ip6:2a01:8000:1ffd:1::/64 ip6:2a01:8000:1ffd::/64 ~all"
13:31 < nojeffrey> Hmm
13:32 < nojeffrey> These mail servers should see the emails are spoofed with SPF and just drop them, as aposed to replying
13:32 < nojeffrey> Whats an example of an error in one of the emails?
13:37 < nojeffrey> At any rate I think these spammers have a list of mail servers that don't implement SPF and are abusing them
13:40 < FenJai> The common error is
13:40 < FenJai> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<garantiasyserviciosdecolima@prodigy.net.mx>:
13:40 < FenJai>     550 5.1.1 <garantiasyserviciosdecolima@prodigy.net.mx> is not a valid mailbox
13:43 < FenJai> Looks like the mail servers which are delivering the smtp erros dont have spf set up
13:44 < nojeffrey> Yep, would a decent spam filter/service know which mail servers dont have SPF, and block most of these? We use Mailguard, highly recommend them
13:45 < nojeffrey> Gotta go
13:45 < FenJai> Cheers nojeffrey
13:52 < asimon> Good morning my friends
13:53 < plop> morning asimon
13:56 < ekaj> set up low disk space alerts, 1400 over the weekend. I think it needs some tuning
13:56 < asimon> Either that or you need more disk space!
13:56 < ekaj> right now I have it set to alert on each individual partition on rhel boxes.. i'll start by consolidating all of those into one alert lol
14:10 <@cryptic1> morning
14:11 < ekaj> gooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning vietnam
14:12 < arlion> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodddd morning
14:18 < asimon> Morning all
14:20 < MadCamel> bahahahaha. microsoft buying github :D
14:20 < katnip> morning sunshine
14:20 < katnip> boo microsoft
14:20 < katnip> goodbye github
14:20 < arlion> MadCamel: I was ready to jump on the , MOVE EVERYTHING TO GITLAB. But then I only do minor stuff on github. All my code is in codecommit.
14:21 < arlion>  /me puts pitchfork down..
14:21 < katnip> sourceforge! :)
14:22 < arlion> was sourceforge ever a code repository in the modern sense? I know devs would upload there completed files and that would be available, but it wasn't a code repository as we know it now.
14:22 < arlion> also, sourceforge is svn based.
14:22 < MadCamel> heh. it's honestly fine for minor stuff. I just feel sort of vindicated, constantly taking heat for insisting we keep our company's repositories local and only pokeable via a VPN. Hearing every day "Why are we not using github private repos?" .. This is why.
14:24 < arlion> gitlab is OOS, you can download it and put it on a server.
14:24 < arlion> We use it our internal code repository.. We like it.
14:25 < MadCamel> yup. though tbh their omnibus package leaves the system in a woefully insecure state.
14:25 < plop> hey
14:25 < MadCamel> good stuff regardless though
14:31 < arlion> Today's ongoing discussion, time to move off github.
14:33 < asimon> Could someone please explain to the uninformed: Why is ms buying github automatically a bad thing?
14:33 < arlion> 1) they could decide to stop maintaining it./
14:33 < arlion> 2) they could close down the site
14:34 < asimon> Why would they buy it then kill it
14:34 < MadCamel> because that's what they do
14:34 < asimon> Skype? Minecraft?
14:34 < arlion> 3) microsoft is generally remembered for.. what's the saying
14:34 < arlion> consume.. ?
14:34 < MadCamel> embrace, extend, extinguish
14:34 < arlion> skype is going away
14:34 < arlion> there it is
14:35 < arlion> For the enterprise side, they are replacing it with microsoft teams, but what about the personal side of skype?
14:35 < asimon> skype for business is
14:35 < arlion> prob going away.
14:35 <@Code_Man65> asimon:  It's pretty much the typical anti anything MS circlejerk
14:36 < MadCamel> next up: azure integration. Then it will slowly become more difficult to integrate github in non-azure environments as they focus on adding new azure-only features
14:37 < kepler> w/ ms liking linux so much now, you'd think they'd have a linux skype4b client
14:37 < arlion> they "do"
14:37 < kepler> teams all web based?
14:37 <@Code_Man65> There is a teams web client
14:37 < ekaj> isn't github open source?
14:37 < arlion> teams have native client too, but not one for linux.
14:38 < arlion> ekaj: gitlab is.
14:38 <@Code_Man65> git is opensource, github is not
14:38 < kepler> web is fine, as long as i can do video
14:40 <@cryptic1> remember githubs outage
14:41 <@cryptic1> O_o
14:41 < plop> cryptic1, get back to work
14:41 <@cryptic1> D:
14:42 <@cryptic1> oh no that was gitlab
14:42 <@cryptic1> not github
14:42 < arlion> honestly, I had to look up the websites for each at several points during this weekend b/c I was confusing the too,
14:42 < arlion> And I use both.
14:42 < L3gacy> Memhub? Memlab?
14:43 < L3gacy> *memehub *memelab
14:43 < L3gacy> I cant type after just waking up
14:44 <@cryptic1> L3gacymemer
14:45 < katnip> https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-github-acquisition-its-all-about-developer-relationships-influence/
14:45 <+layer-eight> * katnip →  Microsoft's Github acquisition: It's all about developer relationships, influence | ZDNet
14:45 < arlion> .yt developer developer developer
14:45 < MadCamel> lots of cocaine was consumed for that one.
14:46 < plop> `yt developer developer developer
14:46 < arlion[bot]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs
14:46 <+layer-eight> * arlion[bot] →  YouTube → Steve Ballmer: Developers → ⚘ 1,058,381 ↑ 3,617 ↓ 162 ✍ 533
14:46 < L3gacy> i need covfefe
14:46 < plop> `bing covfefe
14:47 < kepler> lol bing
14:47 < Nightcinder> pew pew
14:47 < L3gacy> I use bing a LOT
14:47 <@cryptic1> bing is best bing
14:47 < L3gacy> just for the free starbucks
14:47 < Nightcinder> bing is for porn
14:47 < Nightcinder> wait free starbucks wot
14:47 < asimon> s/bing/chandler bing
14:47 < L3gacy> Cryptic1 is best cryptic1 when working
14:47 <+layer-eight> [SED asimon/Nightcinder] chandler bing is for porn
14:47 < L3gacy> I use the MS points I get for free starbucks
14:47 < arlion[bot]> [SED asimon/Nightcinder] chandler bing is for porn
14:47 < kepler> why not just have a bot use bing to get you the points
14:47 < Nightcinder> cryptic1 doesn't work tho
14:48 < plop> `hello
14:48 <+layer-eight> Alas welcome plop
14:48 <@Code_Man65> Yes he does Nightcinder, ask him about splunk dashboards
14:48 < MadCamel> duckduck is good enuogh where they don't have to pay me to use it
14:48 < kepler> ^
14:49 < arlion> MadCamel: duckduckgo is mine as well, and when they don't have the super deep technical answer to my questions, ill go to google at that point.
14:49 < arlion> which isn't that often.
14:50 < corn266> mornin all
14:51 < arlion> Good Morning corn266, are you ready to move everything off github?
14:54 < VPope> And thus the exodus of the devs from github had begun
14:55 < VPope> they would corss the deasert of scalable version controll providers, and part the sea of overpriced per GB cloud storage providers
14:55 < kepler> those noobs. i use my own versioning system.  file.py, file_v2.py, file_v3.py, etc...
14:55 < VPope> before arriving at the promised land of self hosted gitlab servers
14:58 <@cryptic1> stop the github circle jerk
14:58 <@cryptic1> its pretty pathetic
14:58 < plop> file_v2_ok_good_final_OK_OKOK_OKOKOK_done.pdf
14:59 < kepler> funny you put that
14:59 < kepler> we have an in-house vm deployment/automation tool. while building base images i look in seeds folder and seel ike "centos7.vmdk" and "centos7.final.vmdk" and "centos7.good.final.vmdk"
15:00 < corn266> arlion: frick I need to set up something then
15:00 < MadCamel> I just use RCS. It works great.
15:00  * cryptic1 rolls his eyes
15:01 < corn266> centos7.superseriousthistime.good.final.vmdk
15:02 <@JollyRgrs> corn266: our versioning system is slightly different, but not too far off :P
15:04 < MadCamel> git doesn't work so well with huge binaries so that's actually understandable
15:04 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, git seemed to stop working as good, suddenly, just this morning /s
15:05 <@JollyRgrs> srsly, has anyone noticed how MSFT lately hasn't been so evil... some might even say less evil than amazon/google
15:05 < vavkamil> is it good to use git for just one developer?
15:05 < MadCamel> rcs and rdist I'm tellin ya.
15:06 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: version control is always a good thing?
15:06 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, nope too many here busy circlejerking
15:06 <@JollyRgrs> and you never know if you eventually might open it up to more than 1 developer
15:06 < Casteil> dear lord I have never heard so much drama about printer issues
15:06 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: don't hang out with desktop techs anymore i see?
15:07 < Casteil> not really lol
15:07 < Casteil> I'm just hearing accounting freaking out over the printer having some issues
15:07 <@JollyRgrs> huh... new song by mighty mighty bosstones?
15:07 < vavkamil> JollyRgrs, I'm using rsync for my project right now
15:08 < vavkamil> don't even have versions right now
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> vavkamil: i've had on my list for a long time to start using git even for my powershell scripts
15:08 <@JollyRgrs> so scarjo has a 5 song album with pete yorn? (i dunno whoTF pete is)
15:09 <@JollyRgrs> her....voice... is actually a kinda nice singing voice
15:10 < vavkamil> JollyRgrs, I tried to install gitlab on raspberry pi like month ago and it was not that easy
15:11 <@JollyRgrs> unless you have a need for self hosted, why not just github?
15:12 <@JollyRgrs> HIT IT!
15:12 < Markdown1_> "Confirmed Now" https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/4/17422788/microsoft-github-acquisition-official-deal
15:12 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  Microsoft confirms it has acquired GitHub for $7.5 billion - The Verge
15:12 <@JollyRgrs> naaaaa na na na naaaaa na na na naaa na na naaaa na na naaaaa
15:12 < vavkamil> that is a lot of money
15:13 < asimon> that is quite a lot of money...
15:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
15:13 < plop> morning McDonaldsWiFi
15:14 < Markdown1_> https://thenextweb.com/dd/2018/06/04/devs-are-flooding-to-gitlab-amidst-github-microsoft-acquisition-rumors/
15:14 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  Devs are flooding to GitLab amidst Github Microsoft acquisition rumors
15:14  * cryptic1 rolls eyes
15:14  * plop thinks cryptic1 has a macro for the roll of the eyes
15:14 < hxcsp> also macro for back to work
15:14 < plop> yep
15:14 < hxcsp> inc
15:15 <@JollyRgrs> so srsly, has no one used VS Code?
15:15 <@cryptic1> hxcsp, back to work
15:15 <@JollyRgrs> it's a darned good product
15:15 < asimon> I'm on vscode
15:15 < Markdown1_> https://about.gitlab.com/
15:15 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  The only single product for the complete DevOps lifecycle - GitLab | GitLab
15:15 <@cryptic1> vs studio code is great
15:15 <@JollyRgrs> why do ppl think that MSFT is out to kill any project/company it buys?
15:15 <@JollyRgrs> pretty sure for 7.5 BILLION the last thing they wanna do is tank that new company they own
15:15 < Markdown1_> looks like you don't remember 90s.
15:16 < Markdown1_> we don't trust Micro$ost.
15:16 <@JollyRgrs> oh, i do
15:16 <@JollyRgrs> i also know that balmer isn't there anymore
15:16 < Markdown1_> sure
15:16 < vavkamil> maybe next windows will be open source project
15:16 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: i'm no spring chicken
15:16 < VPope> their intent has little to do with it , everything they touch  eventualy tirns to shit
15:16 < Markdown1_> vavkamil LOL good luck
15:16 <@Code_Man65> Anytime some calls them Micro$oft I immediately think they are just behing childish
15:16 <@JollyRgrs> but there's been a drastic change in their company directive
15:16 <@Code_Man65> being*
15:17 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: are you a windows or linux admin?
15:17 < Markdown1_> JollyRgrs Linux
15:17 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
15:17 <@JollyRgrs> thought so
15:17 <@Code_Man65> VPope:  Exchange, SQL Server, PowerShell, and several other products would disagree VPope
15:18 <@JollyRgrs> btw... new Shakira album... all but 3 songs are in spanish (her songs in spanish are much better). who else is excited?
15:18 <@cryptic1> the 90s
15:18  * JollyRgrs starts dancing in his chair
15:18 <@Code_Man65> Maybe, as professionals, we should look at things objectively.  Novel concept, isn't it?
15:18 <@cryptic1> jesus christ
15:18 <@cryptic1> let it go already
15:18 < VPope> Dont get me wrong thir product offering is solid , but their history of acquisitions is god awful
15:18 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: what do you even have against MSFT being that you are a linux admin?
15:18 < Markdown1_> Danger, Wunderlist, Yammer, Nokia Mobile, Windows Phone, Codeplex and a several products would disagree :P
15:19 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: nokia was already drowning
15:19 <@JollyRgrs> windows phone... who did they buy that from?
15:19 <@Code_Man65> Yep, and they couldn't get mindshare
15:19 < VPope> Their core enterprise products have always been the thing they did best
15:19 < VPope> they need to stick to that :)
15:19 <@Code_Man65> And without mindshare for the app store users won't have a reason to try the platform
15:20 <@cryptic1> you know they use github for windows now right
15:20 <@Code_Man65> Yep
15:20 <@Code_Man65> They moved Windows to git last year
15:20 < Markdown1_> its a bit more complicated than that, a lot of us are not comfortable with such big corporation having that much influence over Open source community and big open source projejects.
15:20 <@cryptic1> they are not about to fuck up their own OS version control
15:20 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: "a lot of us"
15:20 < Markdown1_> s/projejects/projects
15:20 <+layer-eight> [SED Markdown1_] its a bit more complicated than that, a lot of us are not comfortable with such big corporation having that much influence over Open source community and big open source projects.
15:20 <@JollyRgrs> who do you speak for?
15:20 <@Code_Man65> Umm Markdown1_, have you HEARD of RedHat?
15:20 <@JollyRgrs> lol
15:20 <@cryptic1> lol
15:20 <@cryptic1> rekt
15:20 <@JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: shhh... we are supposed to be one-sided and not open minded
15:20 < Markdown1_> LOL you guys like Micro$oft, we don't, case closed.
15:21 <@cryptic1> I use any platform that suits the business need
15:21 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: no... most of us arguing this feel like "best tool for the job" is best
15:21 <@JollyRgrs> my only MSFT at home are workstations because gaming and ease of use for family
15:21 <@JollyRgrs> all my servers at home are linux
15:21 <@JollyRgrs> yet i'm an SCCM admin at work
15:21 <@Code_Man65> No, we are telling you to be a fucking professional and objectively assess your options and use the right solution for the problem you are trying to solve, vendor be damned.
15:21 < MadCamel> https://imgur.com/a/vzaR5XQ buy him out boys
15:21 < niklasye> as long as microsofts boost their stocks
15:21 <+layer-eight> * MadCamel →  IMGUR Album → a few seconds ago → 1 Image → ⚘ 0
15:21 < vinrock> word is bond yo
15:21 < niklasye> I'm quite happy
15:22 < vavkamil> what distro are u using?
15:22 < Markdown1_> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17223116
15:22 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  GitLab sees huge spike in project imports | Hacker News
15:23 < vavkamil> I don't really like new ubuntu
15:23 < Markdown1_> I like Debian
15:23 < vinrock> newbuntu
15:23 < vinrock> they finally got rid of that horrible unity bs tho
15:23 < hxcsp> Biebian is the #1 choice
15:23 < vinrock> props for that
15:23 < VPope> They wont torpedo the system but over time they waill start to make small changes to try and intergrate it into the "microsoft enviroment" I grantee you will need a microsoft account to access github within 3 years. NExt it will be intergration with office 365. The core functionality will remain but it will get mired behind layers of extra crap that will attempt to force users into the microsoft ecosystem.
15:23 < Markdown1_> Code_Man65 Red Hat is just a small part of Open Source community.
15:23 <@cryptic1> if you are just here to circlejerk go away
15:24 < Markdown1_> I thought this place was for circlejerking :P
15:24 < Markdown1_> JK
15:24 <@Code_Man65> No they aren't Markdown1_, they are a pretty huge part.  They are the single biggest non-individual contributor to the linux Kernel
15:24 <@JollyRgrs> i've got debian as my base VM, but it runs on a centos KVM server and i have ubuntu running for plex b/c easier
15:24 < Markdown1_> Code_Man65 yep, so is Google.
15:25 <@JollyRgrs> google, a company just as bad as MSFT :P
15:25 <@JollyRgrs> oh wait, am i allowed to say that?
15:25 < Markdown1_> I get it Ops here love, MSFT, anyways I am out for now :P
15:25 <@JollyRgrs> disclaimer... i love google products
15:25 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: no, you don't get it
15:25 < plop> JollyRgrs, too late
15:26 < Markdown1_> LOL I prefer Google over MSFT.
15:26 <@Code_Man65> You aren't following what we are saying at all Markdown1_
15:26 <@JollyRgrs> we love tech/systems and look at things as "what is best for this function"
15:26 < vavkamil> You can work at red hat and basically all you do is contributing to open source projects
15:26 < Hatter> Rude behavior already at this early hour?
15:26 < Markdown1_> I actually worked for for Google in the past.
15:27 < vinrock> this is an odd convo
15:27 < vinrock> i like what makes me money
15:27 < Markdown1_> anyways, sorry about starting this conversation.
15:27 < vinrock> aint got enough nerd blood to take sides
15:27 < Markdown1_> I need some more sleep
15:27 < Hatter> Markdown1_: What do you have against microsoft? What do you play your video games on?
15:28 < vavkamil> steam for linux
15:28 < Markdown1_> Hatter Nintendo Switch
15:28 < Hatter> aren't those for kids
15:28 < Markdown1_> yes
15:28 < niklasye> Hatter psp and openpandora :)
15:28 < vinrock> tiger handheld LCD games
15:28 < hxcsp> the switch is pretty cool
15:28 < vinrock> i heard it feels mad janky
15:28 < hxcsp> idk. my coworker brings it to work and plays during lunch
15:29 < hxcsp> it would beat staring at my phone for an hour
15:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm currently trying to rid myself of google
15:29 < Markdown1_> you don't need MSFT to play games TBH.
15:29 < vinrock> ive never played a game on my phone, i need to give it a shot
15:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> its hard to do
15:29 < Hatter> Markdown1_: just the best ones
15:29 < Markdown1_> my ISP is google too.
15:29 < Markdown1_> I use Cloud Platform daily.
15:29 < Markdown1_> Google Analytics.
15:29 < Markdown1_> Adsense, Adwords.
15:30 < Markdown1_> LOL
15:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> Markdown1_: you're compromised lol
15:30 <+ihre> confluence is soooo fuuuucking slow
15:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> you're one of their favorite people lol
15:30 < vavkamil> I migrated my blog from wordpress to blogger last month
15:30 < Markdown1_> I may actually work for them again.
15:31 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: thanks, but i prefer games slightly better than tux racer
15:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> google is in bed with the state though
15:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's the major reason I'm not a fan
15:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> same for other big tech really
15:31 < Markdown1_> JollyRgrs Tux Racer in PS4?
15:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm going back to FreeDOS
15:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
15:31 <@JollyRgrs> let me know when i can play battlefield $x on linux w/ no performance degredation
15:31 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: PS4? who said anything about console gaming
15:32 <@JollyRgrs> #PCMASTERRACE! /hurdyhurrr
15:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: gamign is literally the only reason I have a windows
15:32 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: pretty much same for me
15:32 < vavkamil> I only play defcon
15:32 <@JollyRgrs> i had moved to strictly linux desktop for myself for a few years
15:32 <@JollyRgrs> then got back into gaming
15:32 < rhqq> mount and blade!
15:32 < Hunterkll> haha
15:32 < Hunterkll> i mean, i moved off of windows for technical reasons
15:32 < Markdown1_> Apple Desktop is better :P
15:32 <@JollyRgrs> eww
15:33 < Hunterkll> but Win8 was good enough under the hood that i could move back to it as a full time desktop OS
15:33 < rhqq> eww
15:33 < kepler> im waiting for kernel 4.18 to come out install it on that new hades canyon NUC. 6x 4k monitors, just need those drivers
15:33 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, they even took away the apple puzzle
15:33 < Hunterkll> but 2004 to 2011 I was pretty much linux only
15:33 <@JollyRgrs> so can you play ANY games on mac now?
15:33 < Markdown1_> I used Linux Desktop for 5 years
15:33 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, with crossover.... ;)
15:33 < rhqq> JollyRgrs: i seen few titles working well on mac and without linux port :<
15:33 <@JollyRgrs> haha
15:33 <@JollyRgrs> rhqq: i think rocket league actually has mac support now
15:33 < Hunterkll> https://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-mac
15:33 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Run Windows Software on Mac with CrossOver | CodeWeavers
15:33 < Hunterkll> :)
15:33 < Hunterkll> commercial spin of WINE
15:33 <@JollyRgrs> i know a few titles support. but FEW for sure
15:33 < rhqq> JollyRgrs: but it has linux support
15:33 < Hunterkll> hey anyone wanna work for the FDIC?
15:34 < Hunterkll> I get a $5k bonus if you get hired
15:34 < Hunterkll> >_>
15:34 < Hunterkll> <_<
15:34 < rhqq> i was taling about games that do work on mac and not on linux
15:34 < DomLS3> s/FDIC/dick
15:34 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/Hunterkll] hey anyone wanna work for the dick?
15:34 < Markdown1_> Desktop Gaming is great you have a lot money to waste.
15:34 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, more native mac titles than linux, that's for sure
15:34 < Hunterkll> Markdown1_, bah, you don't have to waste a lot of money to play modern games fine
15:34 < Hunterkll> that's just a myth
15:35 <@JollyRgrs> i'm playing on an old desktop from my last job (few years ago)
15:35 < Markdown1_> I am ok with Nintendo Switch :P
15:35 <@JollyRgrs> pop in a 750ti... it does "good enough"
15:35 < Hunterkll> it's okay for airplanes and shit
15:35 < Hunterkll> but taht's about it
15:35 < Hunterkll> yea
15:35 < rhqq> Hunterkll: actually that's depatable
15:35 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: so you're saying you aren't a gamer :P
15:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> Markdown1_: you're just a debbie dower lol
15:35 < rhqq> i mean more mac than linux
15:35 < Hunterkll> a 970 or something would set you just fine
15:35 < rhqq> debatable*
15:35 < Hunterkll> nah
15:35 < Hunterkll> not debatable at all
15:35 < Hunterkll> for commercial titles
15:35 < rhqq> where can we pull numbers from
15:35 < rhqq> steam?
15:35 < rhqq> im curious actually
15:36 < Hunterkll> i wonder if there's a way to do that
15:36 <@JollyRgrs> i think steam would have more for linux... but you gotta remove the indie titles
15:36 < Hunterkll> but i've been playing commercial mac games since before steam was out
15:36 < Hunterkll> and i'm not talking like just MYST
15:36 <@JollyRgrs> i'd specifically want only AAA title for the true compare
15:36 <@JollyRgrs> <3 MYST
15:36 < rhqq> hmm, trying to find something
15:36 < ebol4> myst sucks
15:36 < Hunterkll> I was playing native Mac games - Medal of Honor: Allied Assault - for example - on PowerPC macs before the intel switch
15:36 < Hunterkll> you try and find a what we'd now call  AAA title game on linux on launch day
15:36 < Hunterkll> :p
15:36 < Hunterkll> back then especially
15:36 < hxcsp> i played Oregon Trail on iMacs
15:37 < hxcsp> good times
15:37 < Markdown1_> definitely I am not a gamer
15:37 <@JollyRgrs> i played oregon trail on apple IIs
15:37 < DomLS3> I played unreal tournament on a pentium
15:37 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: you're just old
15:37 < Markdown1_> I am bsdgames
15:37 < alazare619> anyone know how to force windows to check for updated SSL root publisher and intermediate auth updates
15:37 < DomLS3> 3*
15:37 < Markdown1_> s/am/play
15:37 <+layer-eight> [SED Markdown1_] I play bsdgames
15:37 < Hunterkll> rhqq, apparently on March 7th, 2017 - there were 4,547 mac titles on steam. March 23rd, 2017 there were 2,335 linux titles
15:37 < alazare619> i have a machine here for whatever reason every SSL site is showing invalid (cant seem to parse the full ssl cert path)
15:38 < rhqq> Hunterkll: source?
15:38 < Hunterkll> rhqq, right now, there are 3,057 linux titles on steam
15:38 < MadCamel> check it's clock
15:38 < Hunterkll> https://steamdb.info/linux/<-- current linux titles
15:38 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: can you filter by non-indie games?
15:38 < Hunterkll> rhqq, here's the Mar 7 article - https://www.macgamerhq.com/news/steam-mac-games/
15:38 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  There are over 4,500 Steam games for Mac | Mac Gamer HQ
15:38 < Markdown1_> not many AAA titles anyways
15:39 < Hunterkll> rhqq, if you look at steam itself, it now lists 7,004 mac titles
15:39 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: you do know that "pacman" doesn't count as a game on BSD, right?
15:39 < Hunterkll> rhqq, so mac has 4000 more titles than linux on steam :P
15:39 < Markdown1_> JollyRgrs sure
15:39 < Markdown1_> Mac users spend money
15:39 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
15:40 < vavkamil> there is not that much games for linux
15:40 < Hunterkll> Markdown1_, Mac also has a larger desktop marketshare for consumers
15:40 <@JollyRgrs> they'll buy anything with apple/mac/"i" on it
15:40 < Hunterkll> just saying
15:40 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, we're talking about games on steam not hardware :P
15:40 < Markdown1_> JollyRgrs just like you guy anything with Microsoft in it
15:40 <@JollyRgrs> iPogoGames
15:40 <@JollyRgrs> Markdown1_: nope
15:40 < Markdown1_> s/guy/buy
15:40 <+layer-eight> [SED Markdown1_] JollyRgrs just like you buy anything with Microsoft in it
15:40 <@JollyRgrs> in fact, i have win10 b/c it was free :P
15:40 <@JollyRgrs> that's why i run linux VMs at home
15:41 < Hunterkll> rhqq, many blizzard games are available on mac, as well as squenix titles
15:41 < Hunterkll> and EVE
15:41 < Hunterkll> etc
15:41 < Markdown1_> I am not paying Microsoft a single cent
15:41 <@JollyRgrs> ok?
15:41 <@JollyRgrs> thanks for sharing
15:41 < Hunterkll> It's your loss for being a platform zealot and not just using the best tool for the job in every case
15:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
15:41 < Hunterkll> *shrug*
15:41 < Markdown1_> they are always getting money for their royalties from me anyways
15:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> i love a try hard first thing on MOnday
15:41 < Hunterkll> There's a reason i'm diversified in so many platforms :)
15:41 <@JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: are you a tryhard?
15:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: more like try never
15:41 <@JollyRgrs> you're making the rest of us look bad
15:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> thanks dad
15:42 < Hunterkll> lol
15:42  * Hunterkll jacks off to a new solaris SPARC install done recently
15:42 < Hunterkll> :3
15:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh god
15:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> uhhhhh
15:42 < Hunterkll> new shiny new hardware
15:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> this is a good time to afk I think
15:42 < Hunterkll> LOL
15:42 < Hunterkll> yea i just did a greenfield solaris/SPARC install recently
15:42 < Hunterkll> because it was the best solution to the problem
15:42 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: is that balls on your chin (:3 )
15:42 < Hunterkll> lol
15:42 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, no it's supposed to be a cat-like smile
15:42 < Hunterkll> i think
15:43 <@JollyRgrs> cat-like? i think someone duped you
15:43 <@JollyRgrs> that's totes balls on your chin
15:43 <@JollyRgrs> or lip
15:43 <@JollyRgrs> take your pick
15:43 < Hunterkll> lol
15:43 < Hunterkll> guys
15:43 < Hunterkll> guys
15:43 < Hunterkll> it's okay
15:43 < Hunterkll> MAC is obviously the best gaming platform
15:43 < Hunterkll> it has FOOTBALL MANAGER 2018
15:43 < Hunterkll> linux does not
15:43 <@JollyRgrs> hahaha
15:44 <@JollyRgrs> wait...
15:44 <@JollyRgrs> that's futbol manager, yes?
15:44 <@JollyRgrs> i don't think they have a pigskin mgr (i could be wrong)
15:44 < rhqq> Hunterkll: thx, my google foo sucks today
15:44 < hxcsp> the only way ill switch to mac is if i can still play goat simulator
15:44 <@JollyRgrs> but does either have shark dating simulator?
15:44 < rhqq> or maybe its because i just got up
15:44 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: i have shower with dad simulator
15:44 < Hunterkll> rhqq, dude i just used two searches, replacing OS in each one - "how many linux games on steam" and "how many mac games on steam"
15:44 < rhqq> also blizzard is known to suck
15:44 < Hunterkll> lol
15:44 < rhqq> (linux-wide)
15:45 < hxcsp> actually... im pretty sure somebody here actually gifted me shower with dad simulator
15:45 < Hunterkll> also
15:45 < Hunterkll> mac has borderlands
15:45 < rhqq> however wow works via wine
15:45 < Hunterkll> hxcsp, i'm pretty sure shower with your dad simulator is why steam introduced a feature allowing you to reject gifts
15:45 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: iirc, you are correct
15:45 < hxcsp> probably
15:45 < rhqq> Hunterkll: borderland2 is linux too
15:45 < Hunterkll> yea but
15:46 < Hunterkll> does mac have
15:46 < Jekotia> FML. Kill my dualboot to change partition sizes before changing distro, Windows won't let me move the god damn recovery partition it put after C: <_<
15:46 < Hunterkll> serious sam 3?
15:46 <@JollyRgrs> Serious Sam 1 was best Serious Sam
15:46 < rhqq> all im playing atm is either cities skylines or mount and blade or rocket league
15:46 < Hunterkll> er
15:46 < Hunterkll> mac has serious sam 3
15:46 < Hunterkll> i meant but does linux have
15:46 <@JollyRgrs> RL FTW
15:46 < rhqq> or super hexagon! :D
15:46 < abakedapplepie> why is everyone so upset that microsoft bought github
15:46 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: so i went back and bought the serious sam stuff
15:46 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: actually, i thought they did have linux versions of SS3
15:46 < Nightcinder> did they actually buy already?
15:46 < Jekotia> abakedapplepie: Is that confirmed?
15:46 < hxcsp> its not as fun anymore
15:46 < Nightcinder> i thought they just wanted to
15:46 < abakedapplepie> yeah
15:47 <@JollyRgrs> hxcsp: it was fun as co-op
15:47 < abakedapplepie> announced this morning
15:47 < Nightcinder> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/4/17422788/microsoft-github-acquisition-official-deal
15:47 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Markdown1_ → Microsoft confirms it has acquired GitHub for $7.5 billion - The Verge
15:47 < hxcsp> JollyRgrs: so buy it then
15:47 < abakedapplepie> https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-developers/
15:47 <@JollyRgrs> hxcsp: i think i've got it
15:47 < rhqq> 7.5
15:47 < rhqq> wow
15:47 < abakedapplepie> from the horses mouth ^
15:47 <@JollyRgrs> the 1/2/3 package
15:47 < hxcsp> yeah i think thats the one i have
15:47 <@JollyRgrs> maybe? i can't remember
15:47 < hxcsp> i might have to install it
15:47 < Jekotia> https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/CXBW9QWaFRmPjpGs7xKTXZ5qCno=/0x0:1017x1200/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:1017x1200):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11473425/IMG_0329_Edit.jpg I want that statue
15:47 < abakedapplepie> but yeah i just dont understand the hatred
15:47 <+layer-eight> * Jekotia →  IMAGE/WEBP Document, 174,980 bytes
15:47 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, welcome to like, hours ago
15:47 < Hunterkll> you're late to the party
15:47 <@JollyRgrs> i have hard copy of the first
15:47 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: im not
15:47 < hxcsp> lol
15:47 < abakedapplepie> im having a discussion
15:47 < abakedapplepie> not announcing it
15:47 < abakedapplepie> lol
15:47 < Hunterkll> discussion already ahppened
15:48 <@JollyRgrs> butts were hurt
15:48 < Hunterkll> i can only derail this shitshow so many times
15:48 < Markdown1_> hxcsp https://store.steampowered.com/app/654880/Dream_Daddy_A_Dad_Dating_Simulator/
15:48 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  Dream Daddy: A Dad Dating Simulator on Steam
15:48 < rhqq> so 190 games out of 420 i have are working natively on linux
15:48 <@cryptic1> abakedapplepie, you are too late
15:48 < Hunterkll> lol
15:48 < Hunterkll> rhqq, where'd you figure that out?
15:48 <@cryptic1> it was already discussed
15:48 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
15:48 < DomLS3> cryptic1: as if topics don't get rediscussed in here ever
15:48 < rhqq> Hunterkll: just looked at my steam
15:48 < hxcsp> Markdown1_: :/
15:48 < Hunterkll> rhqq, where's it show that?
15:48 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: it is against #r-s law to ever bring up a discussion after it happened /s
15:49 <@cryptic1> DomLS3, nope its just one giant circle jerk
15:49 < rhqq> library -> steamos&linux (number)   and library -> games (othernumber)
15:49 < rhqq> in my steam client
15:49 < Markdown1_> Ops here love Micro$oft, nuff said
15:49 < Hunterkll> so
15:49 < Hunterkll> you have 420 games rhqq
15:50 < rhqq> mhm
15:50 < Hunterkll> you can never buy another game again
15:50 < Hunterkll> you know this right?
15:50 < DomLS3> Winodws > Linux
15:50 < rhqq> no, i can always have 1337 games
15:50 <@cryptic1> Markdown1_, stfu
15:50 < Hunterkll> i had a $1,337 credit card balance for ones
15:50 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
15:50 < Markdown1_> cryptic1 see
15:50 <@cryptic1> Markdown1_, platform independent
15:50 < Hunterkll> Markdown1_, I don't love any vendor. I just use whatever works the best :)
15:50 < Hatter> Markdown1_: You really don't see many of the old bearded anti-microsoft zealots these days, you're like a blast from the past
15:50 < Hunterkll> Sometimes that's microsoft. Sometimes it's Oracle
15:50 <@cryptic1> Markdown1_, you just showed up to stir up shit
15:50 <@cryptic1> Markdown1_, never seen you talking here before today
15:50 <@cryptic1> go away
15:50 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, he was here yesterday
15:50 < khelpw> Honestly, I wish game support for linux were better. I'm about ready to switch for my desktop OS
15:51 < rhqq> i switched already, but thats because of what i actually play
15:51 < Hunterkll> khelpw, do you have integrated graphics & discreet GPU?
15:51 < Hunterkll> khelpw, you could run windows in Xen or something with GPU passthru
15:51 < Hunterkll> and use integrated for your linux display when not windowsing
15:51 < rhqq> yeah, but you need to have virtio shit
15:51 < khelpw> Could I? Absolutely. Will I? Definitely not
15:51 < rhqq> not every motherboard supports that
15:51 < Hunterkll> rhqq, that's not really new
15:51 < Hunterkll> my 2011 shit has VT-d
15:52 < rhqq> processor, sure
15:52 < khelpw> My PC is from ~2008
15:52 < rhqq> motherboards are the shit
15:52 < Hunterkll> rhqq, no, enabled in BIOS
15:52 < khelpw> GPU is newish (970 I think)
15:52 < Hunterkll> khelpw, oh. well. then you shouldn't be playing games aynway
15:52 < Hunterkll> :P
15:52 < Hunterkll> lol
15:52 < alazare619> https://certs.godaddy.com/repository
15:52 < rhqq> yes, but again, not evey mb has this wired properly
15:52 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Repository
15:52 < Hunterkll> rhqq, i can't find those numbers
15:52 < rhqq> it's known to be problematic
15:52 < Hunterkll> i just have games
15:52 < Hunterkll> that's about it
15:52 < Hunterkll> rhqq, there's nothing to be wired. it's purely a matter of BIOS support.
15:52 < khelpw> Most of the games I play are small, indie things and there just isn't much support for a lot of them on nix
15:52 < Hunterkll> it's all CPU logic, there's no BIOS anything to worry about
15:52 < Hunterkll> er
15:52 < Hunterkll> motherboard
15:52 < Hunterkll> it's just BIOS
15:52 < rhqq> i remember there were some control signals, but i may be wrong here
15:53 < rhqq> never used that really
15:53 < rhqq> Hunterkll: are you looking at web steam or actual client?
15:53 < Hunterkll> actual client
15:53 < khelpw> and honestly, I upgraded the CPU to a 3770k, it's got 16GB of RAM and I've got a decent SSD for the OS
15:53 < rhqq> upper left big "library" dropdown menu?
15:53 < Hunterkll> just games / software / etc
15:53 < khelpw> I don't really feel the need to upgrade. I just played Far Cry 5 on it, totally without issue
15:53 < rhqq> i guess it is system dependent
15:53 < Hunterkll> I have VR
15:53 < Hunterkll> rhqq, i'm also on windows
15:53 < rhqq> yeah
15:54 < rhqq> most likely thats why
15:54 < Hunterkll> WSL removed my need for linux VMs now
15:54 < Hunterkll> so lol
15:54 < rhqq> serious sam fusion vr is native
15:54 < rhqq> :D
15:54 < Hunterkll> I just run xrdp inside WSL and RDP to my linux desktop :P
15:54 < Hunterkll> 'linux'
15:54 < Hunterkll> well, it's more really NT/GNU
15:55 < Hunterkll> since it's equally native as win32 is
15:55 < Hunterkll> it's not running in emulation
15:55 < Hunterkll> lol
15:55 <@JollyRgrs> i'm pretty sure stallman is still stuck in a logic loop trying to figure out what to call windows
15:56 < DomLS3> pfsense
15:57 < felda> cryptic1 like Taylor Swift over Beyonce
15:57 < DomLS3> ravioli likes t swift
15:57 < DomLS3> she's fugly
15:57 < DomLS3> and flat as a board
15:57 < DomLS3> Beyonce ugly too tho so
15:57 < felda> DomLS3 don't spread lies about ravioli that's really rude
15:57 < DomLS3> felda: actually that's not a lie.
15:57 < ebol4> what about ri ri
15:58 <@Code_Man65> Stallman is probably frothing at the mouth
15:58 < DomLS3> ri aight
15:58 < Hunterkll> rhqq, how many digits is your steam ID? :P
15:58 < rhqq> where do i find it
15:58 < ebol4> type status in console binch
15:58 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3, felda... stop ripping on those singers... shakira has a new album... go dance :P
15:58 < Hunterkll> rhqq, use steamdb.info/calculator
15:58 < Markdown1_> RMS is busy renaming things GNU/*
15:58 < Hunterkll> LOLOLOL
15:59 < Hunterkll> rhqq, out of 314 products, 101 are linux compatible for me
15:59 < Hatter> Hunterkll: that's less than 1/3
15:59 < Hunterkll> 134 products are mac compatible
15:59 < felda> JollyRgrs I only listen to Waka Flocka and Weird Al
15:59 < Hunterkll> here's my steam account -> https://steamdb.info/calculator/76561197962252054/
16:00 < Hunterkll> damn
16:00 < Hunterkll> creeping up on 15 years now
16:00 < DomLS3> felda: you know anything about being a little bitty boy living in a box down the street from Jerry's bait shop?
16:00 < felda> no I only know my company uses Doritos as their computer chips
16:00 < Hunterkll> lol....
16:01 < rhqq> Hunterkll: my steamid is 17 chars
16:01 < rhqq> well digits
16:01 < khelpw> 6 dig here
16:01 < khelpw> have friends with 5/4 digit steamIDs
16:01 < Hunterkll> rhqq, ?
16:01 < Hunterkll> STEAM_1:0:993163
16:01 < khelpw> main account is 7 I think
16:01 < Hunterkll> 993163 is my steam ID
16:01 < rhqq> ah,
16:01 < Hunterkll> 6 digit
16:01 < rhqq> there are 3 steam ids
16:01 < Hunterkll> i'm ancient bro
16:02 < Hunterkll> ANCIENT
16:02 < khelpw> awwyeah Hunterkll
16:02 < Hunterkll> 2003 represent
16:02 <@JollyRgrs> i held out on steam for a while
16:02 < rhqq> 76561198097496434 is yours
16:02 < rhqq> :P
16:02 <@JollyRgrs> but i think i'm on 13 yrs or so
16:02 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, if you had any standalone HL mod and popped in the key it gave you HL and some other mods off the bat
16:02 < Hunterkll> like store bought CS
16:02 < Hunterkll> you could still use your WON copy too
16:02 < Hunterkll> rhqq, that's a newer ID
16:03 < rhqq> Hunterkll: my steam2 id is 8digits
16:03 < Hunterkll> steam ID 2 is the original
16:03 < ebol4> there were also a bajillion HL keys floating around the internet by the time steam came around
16:03 < Hunterkll> I signed up shortly after steam came out
16:03 < khelpw> My main is from 2005 after one of my friends got my original VAC'd cheating at CS 1.5 lol
16:03 < Hunterkll> the promise of "you don't have to find your CD again anymore!"
16:03 < rhqq> i signed like
16:03 < Hunterkll> was great
16:03 < rhqq> um
16:03 < Hunterkll> I was able to stop using craxx0red up half-life
16:03 < Hunterkll> I remember playing CS before valve bought out the mod teak
16:03 < Hunterkll> team
16:03 < Hunterkll> when it was a beta mod for HL
16:03 < Hunterkll> lol
16:04 < khelpw> Yeah. 1.5 was still the best though
16:04 < Hunterkll> christ
16:04 < Hunterkll> nope
16:04 < Hunterkll> 1.3 and 1.1
16:04 < Markdown1_> too much bad news today, I am just waiting for WWDC today /s
16:04 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: oh man, i remember buying a legit game, (after first trying it cracked)... and then still using the stupid no-cd cracks
16:04 <@JollyRgrs> esp for MOH:AA/SH
16:04 < Hunterkll> lol
16:04 < khelpw> 1.3 and 1.1 were both more broken for sure, but 1.5 was more _entertainingly_ broken
16:04 < Hunterkll> MOH:AA
16:04 < khelpw> deagle glitch and running bomb plants were the shit
16:04 < Hunterkll> I don't remember if the mac version of that had CD in requirement
16:04 < Hunterkll> i don't think so
16:04 < Hunterkll> but back then i carried a CD biunder around with me anyway
16:04 < ebol4> E3 starts friday
16:04 < Hunterkll> so wahtever
16:05 < rhqq> where do i find when did i create my account
16:05 < rhqq> i seen that
16:05 < Hunterkll> uhh
16:05 < Hunterkll> it's not on calculator?
16:05 < Hunterkll> i also like how absolutely no one commented on my display name
16:05 < Hunterkll> :p
16:05 < rhqq> because nobody gives a shit
16:05 < rhqq> ;p
16:05 < Hunterkll> it's usually taylor swift tho
16:05 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: i already know yours
16:06 < Hunterkll> but i had something going on
16:06 <@JollyRgrs> wait, it changed?
16:06 <@JollyRgrs> lol
16:06 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, it's Japanese Highschool Bukkake Club right now
16:06 <@JollyRgrs> ah
16:06 < Hunterkll> which is the absolute length limit of steam names
16:06 < Hunterkll> :D
16:06 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, and because of the clan tag setting, it shows up as Brazzers Co. Japanese Highschool Bukkake Club
16:06 < Hunterkll> :D
16:06 < Hunterkll> tehe
16:06 < asimon> s/Jap.*ke/Doki Dok
16:08 < asimon> Man is there no regex on that anymore
16:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> rekt
16:08 < Hunterkll> man
16:08 < Hunterkll> i used to know where it showed the day you made your steam account
16:08 < Hunterkll> can't find it anymore
16:08 < felda> in other news cryptic1 announces he can pardon himself and will be this channels glorious leader for at least 69 more years
16:08 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: it isn't just on your profile?
16:08 < ebol4> Hunterkll: hover over your badge on your steam profile
16:08 < ebol4> shows the date
16:08 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
16:08 <@JollyRgrs> sounds right
16:09 < rhqq> ah
16:09 < rhqq> found it
16:09 < rhqq> july 11 2013
16:09 <@JollyRgrs> n00b
16:09 < Hunterkll> https://steamcommunity.com/id/hunterkll/badges/1
16:09 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Steam Community :: Steam Badges :: Years of Service
16:09 < Hunterkll> Member since October 23, 2003.
16:10 < rhqq> i never needed steam
16:10 < rhqq> since i was pirating everything =]
16:10 < Hunterkll> lol
16:10 < Hunterkll> wow
16:10 < Hunterkll> just over a month after steam came out
16:10 < Hunterkll> Steam launched September 12, 2003
16:10 < Hunterkll> Day of Defeat was included when i popped my key in
16:10 < Hunterkll> that was legit\
16:10 < Hunterkll> made shit with my clan much easier
16:11 < Hunterkll> now if the login name wans't used as a FUCKING PRIMARY KEY IN A DATABASE we'd be able to change it
16:11 < Hunterkll> lol
16:11 < Hunterkll> that's why you can't change your steam login name
16:11 < Hunterkll> it's the last standing primary key in a series of decisions back in 2003
16:11 <+TuxedoJack> October 18 2003 myself
16:11 <+TuxedoJack> Damn
16:11 < Hunterkll> yep
16:11 < Hunterkll> made hosting lan party servers so much easier
16:11 <+TuxedoJack> Good times
16:11 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: b/c steam ID wasn't good enough?
16:11 < Hunterkll> i had like 8 HL mod servers running on my big black cock
16:11 < Hunterkll> (the IBM server)
16:12 < Hunterkll> it was a dual Pentium II with liek 2 or 4 GB ram and 5 36GB SCSI drives
16:12 <+TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: I still have the Half-Life Platinum Pack downstairs with the box
16:12 < Hunterkll> lol
16:12 < Hunterkll> i have my old starcraft disk and key somewhere
16:12 < Hunterkll> 1.03 with Mac OS 9 support
16:12 <@JollyRgrs> i still have a HL2 t-shirt somewhere
16:13 <+TuxedoJack> Hunterkll: mine's memorized. My dad and I used to play Pitbull BGH at his office on SO MANY weekends
16:13 <+TuxedoJack> 2818-79526-xxxx
16:13 <+TuxedoJack> Manual installs every weekend
16:13 < Hunterkll> TuxedoJack, you don't have to redact starcraft keys anymore
16:13 < Hunterkll> :p
16:13 <+TuxedoJack> Don't care, it's habit
16:13 < Hatter> I hope you guys don't think less of me, but I never did beat HL2
16:14 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: i don't think i ever finished it either... just got side tracked
16:14 <@JollyRgrs> it kinda got boring at some part and i lost interest
16:14 < Hatter> I think I stopped right after the boat scene
16:14 <@Code_Man65> I beat HL2, Episode 1 and Episode 2
16:14 < Hatter> braggart
16:14 < ebol4> i re-play all the HL games every once in a while
16:14 < ebol4> very nostalgic
16:14 < Hunterkll> huh
16:14 < Hunterkll> it's amazing
16:14 < Hunterkll> you can tell oldfag steam players because their account names are all email addresses
16:15 <@Code_Man65> I'm working on the last Valk in Dad of War, got my ass kicked hard so I'm upgrading my gear
16:15 < Hunterkll> since that's all you could do back then
16:15 < Hunterkll> just like in EVE
16:15 < Hunterkll> EVE you can't have single word character names anymore
16:15 <@JollyRgrs> but do you go back and play the OG TMNT game?
16:15 < Hunterkll> you have to have a first and last nmae
16:15 <@Code_Man65> JollyRgrs:  Oh god
16:15 < Hunterkll> only old players have one word character names, like Hunterkll
16:15 <@JollyRgrs> i wonder if the underwater bomb level is harder or easier now
16:15 <@Code_Man65> Still just as annoying JollyRgrs
16:15 <@JollyRgrs> haha
16:15  * JollyRgrs shocks Code_Man65 while he tries to diffuse a bomb
16:16 <@cryptic1> its brutal
16:16 < Hunterkll> ya'll come back when you can beat silver surfer in one shot
16:16 <@Code_Man65> I need to play Deus Ex again
16:16 <@cryptic1> silver surfer no way
16:16 < asimon> Silver surfer aint got nothing on rocket racer
16:16 < asimon> That guy legit cheated
16:16 < Hatter> whatever you guys pry used game genie
16:17 <@JollyRgrs> for the fun items, i finally got a gameshark for the N64... otherwise i only got a game genie for the NES when i rented it from blockbuster
16:18 < Hunterkll> i had one of those for gameboy
16:18 < ebol4> oh baby depeche mode plays here on wednesday
16:18 < Hatter> I had a SuperWildCard DX, it had a built in game genie thing
16:18 < Hatter> Was anyone else part of the elite console scene?
16:18 < Hunterkll> I dumped $700 in parts into my original xbox
16:18 < Hunterkll> sold it for like $200 3 years ago
16:18 < Hunterkll> lol
16:19 < Hunterkll> Xecutor 3, XIR, faceplate with 2 real USB ports, etc
16:19 < Hunterkll> clear case, 500GB HDD
16:19 < Hunterkll> man that thing was fuckin legit
16:19 < Markdown1_> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17413390/gdpr-legislation-asleep-in-seconds-listening-meditation-app-peter-jefferson
16:19 <+layer-eight> * Markdown1_ →  Fall asleep in seconds by listening to a soothing voice read the EU’s new GDPR legislation - The Verge
16:19 < Hunterkll> nearly got in trouble with a gf in like, 2009 when Avalaunch opened up with some skimpy santa-bikin thing anime girl showed up on the background instead of my normal shit
16:19 < Hunterkll> hahahaha
16:20 < Hunterkll> fuckin xmas special
16:20 < Hunterkll> :p
16:22 < Hunterkll> 'twas something like this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4iT2g8ogvY4/maxresdefault.jpg
16:22 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 88,352 bytes
16:22 < Hunterkll> but different
16:22 < Hunterkll> same girl/clothing style though (the anime one, not the presenter)
16:22 < Hatter> phew I nearly clicked that
16:22 < Hunterkll> i mean
16:23 < Hunterkll> it's not NSFW really
16:23 < Alternity> can anyone decide this?  https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8ogw1q/adamj_cleanwsus_now_as_a_paid_subscription/
16:23 <+layer-eight> * Alternity →  Adamj Clean-WSUS now as a paid subscription. : sysadmin
16:23 < Hunterkll> it's as NSFW as some overwatch characters *in the actual game*
16:23 < Hunterkll> lol
16:23 < Alternity> we've been running the adamj wsus cleanup script for a year or so now
16:23 < Hunterkll> i assume it'll still keep working
16:23 < Alternity> can he really back charge for a powershell script that was already freely given out?
16:23 < Hunterkll> oh
16:23 < Hunterkll> no
16:23 < Hunterkll> he's not back charging
16:23 < Hunterkll> he's only forward charging
16:24 < Alternity> i understand not being able to get the new improved version but he literally removed the script entirely from spiceworks
16:24 < Hunterkll> Alternity, the script probably has licensing headers in it allowing this
16:24 < Hunterkll> and a EULA apparently
16:24 < Hunterkll> :)
16:24 < Alternity> i guess i'll have to go look
16:24 < Hunterkll> i mean
16:24 < Hunterkll> though
16:24 < Hunterkll> wtf do you need a script for anyway
16:24 < Hunterkll> i run a WSUS for like, 6000 machines and don't need that BS
16:25 < Alternity> ?
16:25 < Hunterkll> half the stuff the script says it does can be done with built in facilities
16:25 < Hunterkll> and the other half juust isn't needed
16:26 < Hunterkll> and most common WSUS issues are resolved by unfucking the default IIS configuration
16:26 < Hunterkll> though doing some DB tweaking can appear to solve those issues
16:26 < Alternity> oh really, whats wrong with the IIS config?
16:26 < khelpw> and by using SQL rather than WID
16:26 < Hunterkll> it's ram capped by default
16:26 < Hunterkll> lmao
16:26 < vinrock> i use the adamj script but its not like i need it
16:26 < Hunterkll> khelpw, WID is just embedded SQL express basically ... it's the same engine
16:26 < khelpw> making that one change, and yeah, opening up the pool in IIS will solve 99.9% of WSUS issues
16:26 < Hunterkll> you can even connect via SSMS to adjust settings in it
16:27 < khelpw> Yeah, but I've noticed a huge difference in things like ram consumption and WMI timeouts by using a separate SQL Express install
16:27 < Hunterkll> Alternity, https://www.404techsupport.com/2016/03/21/iis-wsus-private-memory/
16:27 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Increase IIS Private Memory Limit to improve WSUS availability - 404 Tech Support
16:27 < Hunterkll> khelpw, well true, you're using a much newer version of SQL i suppose
16:27 < Hunterkll> i think WID is 2012
16:27 < Hunterkll> or maybe even 2008
16:27 < Alternity> wid is trash
16:27 < Hunterkll> WID is just MSSQL
16:27 < Hunterkll> just embedded
16:27 < Hunterkll> default WID config is trash
16:27 < Hunterkll> but you can fix that too
16:27 < Hunterkll> anyway
16:27 < khelpw> Yeah, that would make sense. You are definitely right about that^^
16:27 < Hunterkll> read taht link
16:28 < khelpw> I just find that it's quicker and easier to simply switch to SQL Express
16:28 < Hunterkll> Alternity, Default IIS config for WSUS is constrained and doesn't scale well
16:28 < Hunterkll> lol
16:28 < khelpw> ^^
16:28 < Hunterkll> looks like it's default limited to 1.8GB
16:28 < Alternity> cool, fixed
16:28 < Alternity> doubt it was an issue in our environment, but no reason to leave that there
16:28 < Hunterkll> don't forget to recycle the app pool for immediate improvement
16:28 < Hunterkll> lol
16:29 < Hunterkll> Alternity, if your IIS workger process was using over 1.2 gb ram, you've probably hit the limit before
16:29 < Hunterkll> lol
16:29 < Hunterkll> if you have more than 2GB ram in your WSUS box, might as well use it ,right?
16:29 < Alternity> yup
16:29 < Hunterkll> yea, i've never needed any 3rd party tools to manage WSUS
16:29 < Hunterkll> except to whack it once or twice and those aren't really third party if they're given by MS support, now are they?
16:30 < Hunterkll> and that was when it was a WSUS engine integrated into SCCM, not one directly serving clients
16:30 < khelpw> Only third party tool I've used is an (edited) cleanup script
16:37 < JFDkthx> cryptic1 has pardoned himself for the crimes he commited forcing everyone to mine cryptocurrency with DNS
16:37 <@cryptic1> always
16:41 < Sousapro> khelpw: https://community.spiceworks.com/scripts/show/2998-wsus-automated-maintenance ?
16:41 <+layer-eight> * Sousapro →  WSUS Automated Maintenance - Script Center - Spiceworks
16:41 < plop> hey. can i disable "all application packages" group in print security in w2016? what is that for?
16:43 < Hunterkll> plop, any UWP applicatoins won't be able to print
16:43 < Hunterkll> this may include things like browsers, UI interfaces, etc
16:43 < Hunterkll> it's for local applications on the system
16:44 < plop> hmmmm ok. so if i have this printer shared, won't have any problem with the remote users to print if i disable it
16:44 < Hunterkll> don't think so
16:44 < Hunterkll> since it'll come from the user context
16:44 < plop> alright. thanks ;)
16:45 < felda> cryptic1 any words on why you are buying GitHub?
16:46 <@cryptic1> felda, to trigger the entire linux community
16:46 < felda> YOU MONSTER D:<
16:46 < felda> but what about the GNU community?
16:47 < voidstar> the collective knee jerk will reverse the rotation of the earth
16:47 < DomLS3> s/knee/circle
16:47 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/voidstar] the collective circle jerk will reverse the rotation of the earth
16:48 < voidstar> a game of glaze the donut?
16:49 < felda> I bet Bill Gates wants to buy GitHub so they can shutdown pfsense and destroy the internet's only defense
16:50 < F34RInc> ^
16:50 < Hunterkll> ....
16:50 < Sousapro> naah, they just use so much Git they wanted an easier way to get git knowledge internal
16:51 < Sousapro> easiest way is to buy up someone like that
16:51 < Sousapro> or we could go illuminati 360 no scope blaze it 420 *airhorn noises*
16:51 < Sousapro> either way
16:51 < Sousapro> :P
16:52 < asimon> What if they really just wanted to git good
16:53 < Sousapro> well played
16:55 < felda> Worst Downloads folder you've seen?  Mine was one that hasn't ever been emptied and has been carried through each upgrade from WinXP in 2005.  Even has legit malware installers and toolbar installers lmao
16:56 < ebol4> it belongs in a museum
16:56 < asimon> I have a coworker who uses the downloads folder as an actual document storage space
16:57 < felda> I hate that :(
16:57 < asimon> He wanted me to back up his Downloads folder and it took a while for me to find out why
16:58 < vavkamil> lol it's like "there was some important file in my trash and now it's gone" :D\
16:59 < sysDADmin> felda,
16:59 < snarkadmin> felda my brother are you there
17:00 < felda> nah
17:00 < felda> but yeah
17:00 < snarkadmin> it is time
17:00 < snarkadmin> ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
17:01 < felda> It's actually break time
17:01 < felda> but once I'm back from my daily walk I will raise my dongers no doubt
17:01 <@cryptic1> felda no one actually cares about the GNU community
17:01 < Hunterkll> jesus christ
17:01 <@cryptic1> not worth triggering
17:01 < rhqq>   cryptic1 back to work
17:01 <@cryptic1> D:
17:01 < officerrando> sup fellas
17:01 < Hunterkll> i just heard someone say our servers are in "helen keller mode" due to a firewall situation
17:02 < Hunterkll> >_<
17:02 < snarkadmin> ACKTUALLY I'D LIKE TO INTERJECT FOR A MOMENT
17:02 < plop> i sense a lack of kicking
17:02 < snarkadmin> GNU/LINUX OR AS I'VE TAKEN TO CALLING IT: RICHARD STALLMAN IS A PEDOPHILE
17:02 < plop> cryptic1 gone soft. too much work.
17:04 < Hunterkll> so
17:04 < Hunterkll> who's ready for GitHub for SharePoint
17:05 < asimon> Damn it
17:05 < asimon> Why doesn't dell have cab driver packs for the 5530
17:05 <+TuxedoJack> lolwut
17:05 < Hunterkll> cuz its ancient
17:05 <+TuxedoJack> They do, asimon, pretty sure
17:05 < Hatter> boy am I famished today
17:06 <+TuxedoJack> http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/enterprise-client/w/wiki/11506.latitude-e5530-windows-10-driver-pack
17:06 < asimon> Nah their new Precision 5530
17:06 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  Latitude E5530 Windows 10 Driver Pack - Enterprise Client - Wiki - Client and Mobile Solutions - Dell Community
17:06 < asimon> not the latitude
17:06 <+TuxedoJack> Oh well lah-de-fuckin'-dah, then
17:06 < asimon> I just placed an order for some and wanted a jumpstart on the deployment
17:06 <+TuxedoJack> Look at you, having clients who will spend money on things
17:13 <+A-KO> aaaaaahhhhh haha
17:13 <+A-KO> totally true
17:13 <+A-KO> gg
17:13 <+A-KO> MS owns Github for a whole bucket of money
17:14 < vinrock> man
17:14 < vinrock> i cant wait to eat lunch
17:14  * cryptic1 eats vinrock's lunch while he is not looking
17:14 < vinrock> stopit
17:14 <+A-KO> cryptic1
17:14 <+A-KO> I bought a disney annual pass
17:14 <+A-KO> like
17:14 <+A-KO> this super expensive mega $1200 pass
17:14 < vinrock> wut
17:14 < vinrock> damn son
17:14 <@cryptic1> why?
17:14 < vinrock> you must love you some magical kingdom
17:15 <+A-KO> because of a girl
17:15 <+A-KO> lol
17:15 <@cryptic1> a girl that works there?
17:15 < vinrock> tryin' to kick it to tinkerbell?
17:15 <@cryptic1> or gone full furry for mini mouse?
17:15 < vinrock> no kink shaming
17:15 <+TuxedoJack> Minnie?
17:15 <+TuxedoJack> Pfft
17:15 <@cryptic1> yeah that
17:16 <+TuxedoJack> Minerva Mink was the one who launched a generation of furries
17:16 < vinrock> i thought it was the girl chipmunk from that one cartoon
17:16 <+TuxedoJack> Gadget Hackwrench?
17:16 <+TuxedoJack> Golly
17:16 < vinrock> damn
17:16 < vinrock> you knew that shit mad fast
17:16 <+TuxedoJack> You grow up with the Disney Afternoon, of course you know that shit
17:16 <+A-KO> it's basically $1,149/year, with monthly payments. But on this pass, I get free parking, can go to either park in California any time of the year with no blackout dates. I get discounts on purchases and food.
17:16 <@Code_Man65> A-KO: a friend of mine moved to California for a year specifically for Disney Land
17:16 <+TuxedoJack> And Chip & Dale on NES
17:16 <+TuxedoJack> Fuck yes
17:16 < vinrock> ah yeah that was the name
17:16 <+A-KO> LOL Code_Man65, damn.
17:17 <+A-KO> Code_Man65: personally I'm more of a Six Flags fan, but it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay on the other side of town (2 hours).
17:17 <@Code_Man65> His wife is also super into disney
17:17 <+A-KO> Disney is about 30 minutes drive from me
17:17 < vinrock> we have a six flags nearby, i like to go in the summer and remind myself im getting old
17:17 < vinrock> cuz i wanna puke after the rides now
17:17 <@Code_Man65> Getting to go to Universal for the Ignite closing party last year was pretty cool
17:17 <+A-KO> I still have yet to go to Universal
17:18 < JFDkthx> its ok
17:18 <@cryptic1> TuxedoJack, chip and dale on nes was great
17:19 < cantibot> man papercut server is being dumb
17:19 < cantibot> THIS CHAPS MY TAINT!
17:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> cantibot: would you say it... papercuts your taint?
17:21 < cantibot> XD
17:22 < cantibot> Very much so
17:22 < cantibot> "death by 1000 taint papercuts"
17:22 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: go play at the dam
17:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> :(
17:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> ill play at the levy
17:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> BUT THE LEVY WAS DRY
17:23 < FenJai> What do people use to handle spam on self hosted mail servers ?
17:24 <+ihre> amavisd
17:24 < felda> Okay I'm back from break
17:24 < Holo> Microsoft Acquires GitHub For $7.5B
17:24 < rhqq> Holo: slowpoke
17:24 < felda> How can I set the Windows loading to play this song?  https://youtu.be/cjYrski71II
17:24 <+layer-eight> * felda →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjYrski71II&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → Friends Of Distinction  -  Grazing In The Grass → ⚘ 412,151 ↑ 4,294 ↓ 90 ✍ 331
17:24 < Holo> Lol
17:25 < Holo> I’m only 2 hrs slow
17:25 < ebol4> FenJai: spamassassin
17:27 <@JollyRgrs> A-KO: wait, they have 2 parks for disney in anaheim?
17:27 <@JollyRgrs> what's the other one?
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1: i have chip and dale's rescue rangers on NES
17:28 < ebol4> might be thinking of california adventure
17:28 <@JollyRgrs> very fun, esp picking up player 2 and tossing them
17:28 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, yeah its great
17:28 < ebol4> JollyRgrs is a big fan of chippendales
17:29 < JFDkthx> ebol4: neat fact, chippendales got it's name from chip and dale the squirrels.
17:33 < dragonfleas> ok boys
17:33 < dragonfleas> i need help
17:33 < dragonfleas> previous admin gave me a bad password to the firewall at our small site
17:33 < dragonfleas> but I gotta do some reconfig
17:33 < dragonfleas> should i boot from rommon and just recopy the config after resetting the firewall?
17:33 < dragonfleas> or is there an easier way
17:34 < dragonfleas> because this config looks outdated
17:34 < dragonfleas> am i fucked?
17:34 <+AnonymooseWork> are you on site?
17:34 < dragonfleas> AnonymooseWork, yes
17:34 <+AnonymooseWork> what kind of firewall is it?
17:34 <+AnonymooseWork> you have a backup of the config?
17:34 < dragonfleas> ASA 5510
17:34 < dragonfleas> yeah I do have a backup but I am not sure if it's current
17:34 < dragonfleas> He made backup text files of the configs
17:35 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, the saved config looks outdated?
17:36 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, if the saved on-flash config is current you can just reset the password
17:36 < JFDkthx> agh
17:36 <+AnonymooseWork> http://ezinearticles.com/?Password-Recovery-on-the-Cisco-ASA-Security-Appliance&id=664795
17:36 < Hunterkll> https://supportforums.cisco.com/t5/security-documents/asa-password-recovery/ta-p/3126046
17:36 <+layer-eight> * AnonymooseWork →  Password Recovery on the Cisco ASA Security Appliance
17:36 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  ASA password recovery - Cisco Support Community
17:36 < JFDkthx> why are we still using lotus notes
17:36 < Hunterkll> my link is better
17:36 < Hunterkll> because it's from cisco
17:36 < Hunterkll> lol
17:36 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, when you're in the reset mode, you load the saved config on the device, then edit the password and re-save it
17:36 < Hunterkll> so you don't lose what's saved on the FW device
17:37 < Hunterkll> you don't have to rely on the backup copies you have
17:37 < Hunterkll> you can also show running-config after the 'copy startup-config running-config' to compare notes
17:37 < dragonfleas> oh fuck yes
17:37 < felda> Is there a Kids Bop series for IT mistakes?
17:37 < JFDkthx> felda: see McDonaldsWiFi
17:37 < dragonfleas> thanks guys
17:38 < dragonfleas> i'll follow that guide that AnonymooseWork gave
17:38 < felda> "Now That's What I Call Internet History 2" That time you forgot you had Browser History synced with your home browser too
17:38 < JFDkthx> oof
17:38 < JFDkthx> even worse is when you have it to sync opened tabs
17:38 < dragonfleas> felda, my work phone has xnxx come up on recommended websites because of my google account lmao
17:38 < felda> JFDkthx I never ever leave tabs open
17:39 < JFDkthx> incase you die on the way home
17:39 < JFDkthx> and your parents have to look at your the_pack memes
17:39 < hxcsp> dragonfleas: in cog nito
17:40 < JFDkthx> hxcsp: cmon man, he just locked himself out of his firewall. you think he knows about ctrl+shift+p
17:40 < hxcsp> pretty sure its ctrl+shift+n
17:40 < JFDkthx> isnt it that on firefox?
17:40 < JFDkthx> or do i have it warsback
17:40 < felda> CTRL SHIFT N is chrome
17:40 < hxcsp> its n on chrome
17:40 < felda> CTRL SHIFT P is Foxy FIre
17:41 < JFDkthx> i was close enough.
17:41 < felda> walk into radio station
17:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> fiery fox
17:41 < JFDkthx> it's all muscle memory anyway
17:41 < felda> first computer I see has Torch browser installed
17:41 < felda> KILL ME NOW
17:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> mozilla jinchuriki
17:41 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: die
17:41 < felda> listen here you gay weeb
17:41 < JFDkthx> ffs
17:41 < JFDkthx> s/y/e
17:41 <+layer-eight> [SED JFDkthx/felda] listen here eou gay weeb
17:41 < JFDkthx> fuck it
17:42 < hxcsp> no you're a towel
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> i read Boruto
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> I admit it outloud
17:42 < felda> It's Mozzarella Hot Fiya 100% Web Surfer software
17:42 < felda> >_> I watch Boruto for a bit
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> "But I'm not a brower"
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> browser*
17:42 < felda> Asked me for my URL
17:42 < felda> said google.com
17:42 < felda> SIKE THATS THE WRONG URL
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: manga apparently just starting getting dope the last 1-2 issues
17:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> im way behind
17:43 < JFDkthx> why dont you read a real story
17:43 < JFDkthx> like
17:43 < JFDkthx> i shal seal the heavens
17:43 < JFDkthx> shall*
17:43 < scwizard> i literally can not create this database
17:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> or how about cucks mcducks 101
17:43 < alazare619> incognito/private browser window?
17:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's your favorite read I hear
17:43 < alazare619> you mean FAP MODE
17:43 < JFDkthx> yeah did you hear that while i was banging ur wife
17:43 < JFDkthx> and u were reading manga
17:43 <@cryptic1> O_o
17:43 < scwizard> "I can see here that the migration process of the RDS Cluster production-database-cluster, is not having any progress for a long time.  Aurora Team was investigating the issue and the outcome of the investigation points to the following: The process is stuck and the automation in place was not able to move on the creation of underlying infrastructure. As this process was started within the time that we were facing some net
17:43 <@cryptic1> wtf have I returned to?
17:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> also hearing Hitchcock call someone a cuck on nine-nine was hilarious
17:44 < alazare619> cryptic1:  please ban this fool constant personal attacks
17:44 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: banter
17:44 < JFDkthx> i havent watched it since season 2
17:44 < scwizard> "this is most likely the root cause and it led to unexpected behaviour during restore from S3.   This is not a normal behavior, usually this operation does not take much time to complete, however it can vary according to the instance size."
17:44 < alazare619> and he wonders why everyone thinks the world would be better if he killed himself
17:44 < scwizard> so......... started over again
17:44 < scwizard> and same issue!
17:44 < scwizard> oy
17:44 < scwizard> ot
17:45 < scwizard> it's been "creating" for 9 hours now
17:45 <@cryptic1> personal attacks?
17:45 < dragonfleas> in fap nito
17:45 < ekaj> REEEE
17:46 <+A-KO> oh boy
17:46 <+A-KO> now I get to go into work
17:46 <+A-KO> and hear the bitching from all the OSS junkies
17:47 < TB396540> Hello guys, I know Exchange 2007 is dead, but I have to face it. It decided to get emails stuck in queue (since volume increased), it's sending like 5 per minute only. Any clue where to check?
17:47 <+A-KO> TB396540: restart the transport services and hope and pray?
17:47 <+A-KO> check the queue?
17:47 <+A-KO> the queue tells you why mails are stuck
17:47 < TB396540> Error 451 4.4.0 Primary target IP address responded with: 421 4.4.2 Connection dropped.
17:47 < Hunterkll> A-KO, i'm hoping for a home user on premise version now
17:47 < Hunterkll> like gitlab has
17:47 < Hunterkll> lol
17:47 < Hunterkll> that or github for sharepoint
17:47 < Hunterkll> i'll take that too
17:48 < hxcsp> check the queue. check the smarthost/mta
17:48 <+A-KO> TB396540: so some relay you're using is failing
17:48 <+A-KO> ^
17:48 <+A-KO> what hxcsp said
17:48 < Hunterkll> c'mon github for sharepoint
17:48 < Hunterkll> :D
17:48 <+A-KO> you're probably using a smarthost with a mail filter platform
17:48 < TB396540> Yep, we use FortiMail and I suspect this one is dropping the connections. But no shit in logs. Nothing. 5 mails per minute pass through.
17:48 <+A-KO> TB396540: it's fortimail
17:48 <+A-KO> so check that sytem
17:48 < Hunterkll> whitelist your IP
17:48 <+A-KO> system
17:48 < Hunterkll> :)
17:48 < Hunterkll> use the fortimail whitelist
17:49 < Hunterkll> make that shit bypass all the filters
17:49 < hxcsp> filters are useless anyways right
17:49 <+A-KO> Hunterkll: I want to see sharepoint support the docs.microsoft.com model
17:49 <+A-KO> anyways I should get to work--I've got some Bawls to put in the fridge
17:49 < Hunterkll> lol
17:49 < felda> anyone ever had a Zyxel router stop doing DHCP and DNS?  Pinging IPs will worked after setting a manual IP on a client.  Was really weird those two services died and wouldn't work until after a reboot.
17:49 < Hunterkll> A-KO, huh, i could implement that
17:50 < hxcsp> felda: obviously it should be replaced with pfsense
17:50 < TB396540> We rather wanted to see where to find some logs. But there are only entries of emails that sent.
17:50 < hxcsp> dont know why you even bother asking
17:50 < TB396540> There's no error on FortiMail side.
17:50 < Hunterkll> A-KO, actually you could do 80% of what that site does now just using the wiki module :D
17:50 <+TuxedoJack> felda: for once, hxcsp is correct
17:50 < TB396540> I'd white-list it, but.. where? :)
17:50 <+TuxedoJack> And you should be ashamed for not already having a pfSense in place
17:50 <+A-KO> TB396540: that queue log is *telling you* the issue. That's your log.
17:50 <+TuxedoJack> shamenun.com
17:50 <+A-KO> if Fortimail doesn't give you logs
17:50 <+A-KO> that's on them
17:50 < felda> TuxedoJack it's a radio station
17:50 <+A-KO> use a different platform
17:50 < felda> they don't want anything high powered like pfsense in there that might interfere with the signal
17:51 < Hunterkll> hey does anyone have juniper firmwre download access?
17:51 < Hunterkll> I need an update
17:51 < hxcsp> felda: oh yeah, radio stations are solely banned from pfsense
17:51 < Hunterkll> >:3
17:51 <+A-KO> TB396540: the queue viewer tells you the problem, and that's your starting point IMO. If Fortimail doesn't give any logs, drop the stupid ass platform and use EOP + ATP
17:51 < Hunterkll> fuck that get a barracuda
17:51 < Hunterkll> :P
17:51 < hxcsp> TB396540: for real though, you probably have logging turned off in the fortimail or something
17:51 < hxcsp> i use fortinet appliances (not fortimail) and you can turn off logging
17:51 < hxcsp> set levels, etc
17:51 < TB396540> Well, yes, but we have some SPF only assigned to this FortiMail for the moment. I considered sending through EOP but that would only result in our EPO being blacklisted, even if it works.
17:52 < TB396540> Any idea how to make sure Exchange health is OK?
17:52 < Hunterkll> TB396540, you can whitelist stuff in EOP
17:52 < Hunterkll> :)
17:52 <+A-KO> your Exchange Health is okay TB396540
17:52 <+TuxedoJack> Seeing "kind regards" or "please advise" makes me want to fucking murder the user who sends it in
17:52 <+A-KO> I'm beiong serious, that error you're receiving is a Fortimail problem
17:52 < abakedapplepie> agreed
17:52 <+TuxedoJack> Just send your problems and requests in, and we'll fucking fix it. No one gives a shit about your fucking signature
17:52 < abakedapplepie> well actually
17:52 <+A-KO> if it was an Exchange problem, that same log would tell you it's an Exchange problem.
17:52 < abakedapplepie> i say "please advise" when im working with vendors and need their fucking advice
17:53 < ekaj> please advise upon the needful
17:53 < abakedapplepie> sounds formal in a  "fucking make it work" way
17:53 < TB396540> When we tried to purge emails from exchange queue with no NDR, it took 10 minutes.
17:53 < TB396540> That was weird.
17:53 < TB396540> Also, ok.. COnstructive question - can you explain Submission queue? If I'm right, this is inbound queue, correct?
17:53 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  you excided for MS to buy github
17:53 < abakedapplepie> outbound
17:53 < alazare619> going to be a super positive move imo
17:53 < Hunterkll> alazare619, i'm 100% indifferent
17:53 < abakedapplepie> mail submitted for a delivery, TB396540
17:54 < Hunterkll> alazare619, though a home version that's not behind a paywall would be nice, like gitlab has
17:54 < Hunterkll> but that's about it
17:54 < alazare619> hopeing for better integration of github into vscode and the likes
17:54 < Hunterkll> oh, and github for sharepoint would be nice
17:54 < abakedapplepie> oh god
17:54 < hxcsp> submission would be mail submitted going out
17:54 < abakedapplepie> that sounds disgusting
17:54 < Hunterkll> alazare619, dude, visual studio already uses public github source to improve intellisense/intellicode
17:54 < Hunterkll> Visual studio already ganks github like a dirty whore
17:55 < TB396540> Since Exchange server restart this queue started to grow also, now at 300, before it was like 10, and the smarthost queue was 600. Now the smarthost queue is "just" 450
17:55 < alazare619> yea but VSCode (the notepad++ like product) still lacks alot of github integration
17:55 < Hunterkll> alazare619, https://www.visualstudio.com/services/intellicode/
17:55 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Visual Studio IntelliCode | Visual Studio
17:55 < abakedapplepie> TB396540: sounds like you are having mail delivery problems
17:55 < alazare619> it does allow for pushing but not viewing diffs and stuff unfortunately
17:55 < ekaj> .bofh
17:55 < ekaj> `bofh
17:55 <+layer-eight> BOFH ..disk or the processor is on fire.
17:55 < ekaj> :(
17:55 < ekaj> ay
17:55 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:55 < abakedapplepie> theres actually an error code for that
17:55 < Hunterkll> for printers
17:55 < Hunterkll> not for disk or processor
17:56 < abakedapplepie> oh shit youre right
17:56 < abakedapplepie> it is printers
17:56 < Hunterkll> and the origin of lp0 on fire error actually came from when the printer would jam
17:56 < abakedapplepie> i thought it was processor
17:56 < Hunterkll> and the risk of the printer being on fire because of htat
17:56 < Hunterkll> was actually real
17:56 < Hunterkll> that error message used to be serious
17:56 < TB396540> So far I was unable to say if the issue is on FortiMail or Exchange.
17:56 < abakedapplepie> does your outbound mail go through fortimail
17:56 < Hunterkll> daisy wheel printers and the like would generate a lot of paper dust
17:56 < abakedapplepie> if not, its not fortimail
17:56 < Hunterkll> and jam up and have electrical failures
17:56 < Hunterkll> causing fires
17:57 < Hunterkll> that error message used to not be funny >:3
17:57 < abakedapplepie> do a telnet test over port 25 to one of the smtp servers youre attempting to deliver to
17:57 < TB396540> Like I said. on average, 11 messages per minute go through.
17:57 < abakedapplepie> if some is going but not most
17:57 < alazare619> thats slow AF
17:57 < abakedapplepie> i would guess IP reputation
17:57 < abakedapplepie> the 11 or so per minute are servers not checking your rep
17:57 < hxcsp> could be that
17:57 < hxcsp> logs on the smarthost would show
17:57 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, i think he's having issues with an internal service not being able to relay
17:58 < hxcsp> ;)
17:58 < abakedapplepie> if some is going out tho
17:58 < scwizard> ok
17:58 < scwizard> microsoft brought github
17:58 < scwizard> wow
17:58 < abakedapplepie> time to find your logs, regardless
17:58 < Hunterkll> jesus christ
17:58 < Hunterkll> we know
17:58 < Hunterkll> scwizard, i for one am excited for github for sharepoint
17:58 < Hunterkll> mkay
17:58 < abakedapplepie> sadist
17:59 < TB396540> Well, IP rep makes sense, but we have SPF for all sent emails, and also i would expect some errors in FortiMail.
17:59 < TB396540> Queue on FortiMail is empty.
17:59 < abakedapplepie> also, Hunterkll: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/p5.c?id=v3.18#n31
17:59 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  p5.c\mcheck\cpu\kernel\x86\arch - kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
17:59 < alazare619> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SYLP5C0/ref=s9_acsd_topr_hd_bw_b1G5l_c_x_7_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-8&pf_rd_r=ZC0A8V0EK78XMYEESSAZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=4c357192-4c56-5d5a-95dd-b379d5b2b3a7&pf_rd_i=300189
17:59 < abakedapplepie> :)
17:59 < alazare619> #urlgore
18:00 < abakedapplepie> TB396540: your outgoing mail does go through your fortimail system?
18:00 <+AnonymooseWork> Github teams?
18:00 <+AnonymooseWork> :D
18:01 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, ?
18:01 <@ravioli> future merges can only be done via cortana
18:01 < hxcsp> oh god
18:01 < genr8_> everyone dont panic
18:01 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: CPU on fire code in kernel source
18:01 <+AnonymooseWork> ... 12 months from now "MS announces the sunsetting of GitHub, migrating to visual studio online"
18:01 <@ravioli> readme file markup is now done with .docx format
18:01 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, oh, yea, that one's actually a joke
18:01 <+AnonymooseWork> Feature parity expected sometime in 2021
18:01 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, the lpr0 on fire wasn't a joke
18:01 < abakedapplepie> i know :)
18:01 <@Code_Man65> AnonymooseReddtr:  Yeah right.  They just migrated Windows itself to git for source control last year
18:02 < corn266> secret TOS addition where all your source belongs to M$
18:02 < abakedapplepie> but that was what i was thinking of earlier. i knew someone had expanded on the printer on fire somewhere
18:02 < TB396540> Yes, it goes through Fortimail
18:02 <@Code_Man65> This is yet more proof that the writing is most likely on the wall for TFS
18:02 < TB396540> Well, mails sent from internal systems like Zabbix
18:02 < abakedapplepie> TFS?
18:02 <@Code_Man65> Team Foundation Server
18:02 < abakedapplepie> oh
18:02 <+AnonymooseWork> Code_Man65 yeah you are probably right
18:02 < MillerBoss> In before gitlab gets hacked
18:02 < MillerBoss> https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=1&from=now-2d&to=now
18:02 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Grafana
18:03 < abakedapplepie> why would they get hacked
18:03 < abakedapplepie> also i hope their infrastructure teams went into overdrive over the weekend lol
18:03 < abakedapplepie> theyre gonna need it
18:03 < MillerBoss> Bigger target since yesterday
18:04 < genr8_> Git already runs on Azure so
18:04 < MillerBoss> ore people poking at their infrastructure I am sure.
18:04 < genr8_> Gitlab*
18:04 <@ravioli> what's with the spike in imports?
18:04 < genr8_> so you cant get away from microsoft
18:04 < genr8_> people moving from github to gitlab obviously
18:04 <+AnonymooseWork> funny enough - visual studio online supports git commands
18:04 <@ravioli> ah.
18:04 < genr8_> dont be a dolt
18:04 < abakedapplepie> neckbeards terrified of microsoft ravioli
18:04 <@ravioli> idk what a gitlab is.
18:04 < genr8_> its overreaction and panic
18:04 < MillerBoss> I find it funny. I will still poke fun
18:04 < abakedapplepie> "BILL GATES IS GONNA STEAL MY CODE!!!1"
18:04 < MillerBoss> 111!!!!
18:05 < MillerBoss> `bofh
18:05 <+layer-eight> BOFH Unoptimized hard drive
18:06 < abakedapplepie> it would be nice if MS made github private repos free for personal use
18:07 < abakedapplepie> i have just enough crap on there to make moving things not worth saving $5 a month
18:07 < abakedapplepie> :|
18:07 < abakedapplepie> or whatever it is per month
18:07 <+ktechmidas> God damn DNS.... 1 full second to resolve
18:07 <+ktechmidas> wtf
18:07 < rhqq> lawl
18:07 < rhqq> avian carriers dns
18:08 < abakedapplepie> iridium-backed DNS
18:08 < abakedapplepie> with a relay off Luna
18:08 <+ktechmidas> I've got an odd setup with DNS going over VPN... but it's 1ms to 1.1.1.1 from the host
18:08 <+ktechmidas> and 13ms from the host to me
18:08 <@ravioli> is there a list somewhere of live dns records? like, could i print a phone book of the internet?
18:08 < abakedapplepie> ravioli: yes
18:09 <+ktechmidas> perhaps it would be faster
18:09 < abakedapplepie> get access to these guy's data: http://dnstrails.com
18:09 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  ⚓  https://securitytrails.com/dns-trails → DNS Trails - The World's Largest Repository of historical DNS data
18:09 < Hunterkll> ravioli, yea, i have access to like 95% of TLD's zone files
18:09 <+ktechmidas> to use a phone book
18:09 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, why not just go straight to ICANN ?
18:09 <+ktechmidas> Hunterkll... is that normal?
18:09 <+ktechmidas> to have access to TLD's zone files? o.o
18:09 < abakedapplepie> it sort of is
18:09 < abakedapplepie> you can get that data as a researcher
18:09 < Hunterkll> i mean
18:09 < Hunterkll> com isn't in czds yet
18:09 < Hunterkll> nor is net
18:09 < Hunterkll> yea
18:09 < Hunterkll> i justified it as a research project
18:09 < Hunterkll> :p
18:10 < abakedapplepie> you just have to ask
18:10 <@ravioli> i want that data
18:10 <+ktechmidas> huh
18:10 < abakedapplepie> preferably while making the blowie signal
18:10 < abakedapplepie> and then actually blow them
18:10 < Hunterkll> ravioli, any specific tlds you want right now?
18:10 <@cryptic1> guy it worked!!! https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-stop-microsoft-from-buying-github
18:10 <@ravioli> Hunterkll: com and net
18:10  * cryptic1 falls over laughing
18:10 <@ravioli> ;)
18:10 < Hunterkll> hahahaha
18:10 < Hunterkll> those aren't in CZDS yet
18:10 < Hunterkll> they will be eventually
18:11 <+ktechmidas> .xxx ?
18:11 <+ktechmidas> :D
18:11 < Hunterkll> ravioli, I have access to .comcast though
18:11 < Hunterkll> and .commbank
18:11 < Hunterkll> o.O
18:11 < abakedapplepie> man
18:11 < Hunterkll> ktechmidas, yes, i have .xxx
18:11 < abakedapplepie> i have to... *shudder*... sign up for comcast
18:11 < abakedapplepie> :/
18:12 < Hunterkll> ktechmidas, https://www.dropbox.com/s/exhvpcsfqwzbz5w/20180604-xxx-zone-data.txt.gz?dl=0
18:12 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Dropbox - 20180604-xxx-zone-data.txt.gz
18:12 < Hunterkll> .xxx tld zone file
18:12 < Hunterkll> as of this morning anyway
18:12 < Hunterkll> it's about 9-10MB uncompressed
18:13 < Hunterkll> ravioli, actually, I do have access to .net
18:13 < Hunterkll> it's just .com that isn't in the system yet
18:13 < Hunterkll> ravioli, but fair warning, .net is 262MB compressed .... ;)
18:13 < Hunterkll> and .xxx is 10MB that compresses down to 1MB
18:14 < corn266> wtf why can't I uninstall skype anymore
18:14 < Hunterkll> wtf are you talking about
18:14 < Hunterkll> right click -u ninstall
18:14 < corn266> no option to uninstall
18:14 < Hunterkll> i have it
18:14 <+ktechmidas> huh
18:14 < Hunterkll> you are obviously broken
18:14 <+ktechmidas> ty
18:14 < corn266> oh no i must have jerked it too much and went blind
18:14 < Hunterkll> lol
18:14 < Hunterkll> VRSN TLDs
18:15 < Hunterkll> i have access to all 14
18:15 < Hunterkll> verisign
18:15 < Hunterkll> LOL
18:15 < Hunterkll> Verisign approved me to access to all their TLDs
18:15 <+ktechmidas> that surprises me that .net is only 200MB
18:15 < Hunterkll> ktechmidas, it's 262MB /compressed/
18:15 <+ktechmidas> *262mb
18:15 <+ktechmidas> Ah...
18:15 < Hunterkll> ktechmidas, remember - it's all pure text. which compresses *VERY* well
18:15 < Hunterkll> .XXX is 10MB zone file, which compressed to 0.97MB
18:16 < Hunterkll> so expect at least a 10x inflation
18:16 <+ktechmidas> so when people decide to hide things as subdomains.... which was a common thing I saw
18:16 <+ktechmidas> I can now find their subdomain
18:16 <+ktechmidas> and say "Uh... not hidden, I can prove it"
18:16 <+ktechmidas> right?
18:16 < Hunterkll> no
18:16 < Hunterkll> zone files just point you to the authoritative nameserver for that domain
18:16 < Hunterkll> that's it
18:17 < Hunterkll> if you can get an axfer of the zone file from that authortiative nameserver
18:17 < Hunterkll> then you'd have that info
18:17 <+ktechmidas> Ah... not the actual file
18:17 < Hunterkll> the tld zone files are just like
18:17 <+ktechmidas> I see
18:17 < Hunterkll> NAKEDKTECHMIDAS.XXX -> NS1.BLAH.SEXYHOST.COM
18:17 < Hunterkll> you can easily search for taken/untaken domains
18:17 <+ktechmidas> Hah
18:18 <@ravioli> i want .net
18:18 < corn266> Hunterkll: If you need it in the future https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1408834-removing-windows-10-apps-gpo
18:18 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  [SOLVED] Removing Windows 10 Apps / GPO - Spiceworks
18:18 < Hunterkll> corn266, you mean if i need something i've been doing properly since before windows 10 was even released?
18:18 < Hunterkll> ravioli, downloading it now
18:18 < Hunterkll> i'll up it to dropbox for ya
18:19 <@ravioli> :*
18:19 < Hunterkll> corn266, WITHOUT using a shitty appx script?
18:19 < Hunterkll> that can fuck up windows updates, servicing updates, etc?
18:19 < Hunterkll> configured to DoD standards? :)
18:19 < corn266> yes
18:19 < Hunterkll> people who do appx removal and other shit are shooting themselves in the foot
18:19 < Hunterkll> and will eventually fuck up
18:19 < Hunterkll> even the start menu is an appx package
18:19 < Hunterkll> shit, UAC prompts are UWP based now
18:20 < corn266> which sucks cause if there's no way around this that's not overkill i'd rather shoot myself in the head
18:20 <+giant_it_burrit> i just use dns
18:20 < corn266> giant_it_burrit ++
18:20 < Hunterkll> corn266, simply setting the right GPOs and properly managing your start menu is a great start
18:20 < Hunterkll> i'll note that a lot of the 'pre-provisioned ' apps are also 16KB stubs
18:20 < Hunterkll> but yes
18:20 < Hunterkll> if you do that on machines you're deploying you *will* run into problems
18:21 < Hunterkll> like idiots who do more modification to the base WIM than just including office
18:21 < corn266> I have a custom configuration for the start menu already set up and the GPOs were set a long time ago to prevent these things from happening
18:21 < dragonfleas> what's a good way for me to be able to pxe boot at our sister sites so i can upgrade these existing computers to Windows 10?
18:21 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, put an SCCM MP/DP there?
18:21 < dragonfleas> they're on different subnets and WDS doesn't broadcast to PXE outside of it's subnet
18:21 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, there's no server here
18:21 < Hunterkll> WDS does
18:21 < Hunterkll> if you use proper IP helper statemnts and/or DHCP options
18:21 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, are you sure about that?
18:22 < dragonfleas> I was tolder IP helpers don't work with pxe broadcasts
18:22 < Hunterkll> no, i just implement multi-subnet imaging at offices with magic pixie dust
18:22 < dragonfleas> because of the handshake
18:22 < Hunterkll> DHCP options
18:22 < Hunterkll> option 66 and 67 i think
18:22 < Hunterkll> or 65 and 66
18:22 < dragonfleas> ah, true, i could use DHCP options, but DHCP is configured through the ASA here
18:22 < Hunterkll> PXE server name & boot file name
18:22 < dragonfleas> and i don't have the login for the ASA lmao
18:22 < Hunterkll> but if it's a remote site without a server
18:22 < Hunterkll> make some damn USB media
18:22 <+giant_it_burrit> 66 and 67
18:22 < Hunterkll> you're using MDT right?
18:22 < dragonfleas> yeah i'll just make some USB media
18:22 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, yes
18:23 < dragonfleas> I have MDT on my laptop
18:23 < Hunterkll> then just make usb media and throw it at them
18:23 < Hunterkll> lol
18:23 < dragonfleas> good idea
18:23 <+giant_it_burrit> throw aol cds at themm
18:23 < Hunterkll> that's what we're doign for sites without an SCCM DP
18:23 < dragonfleas> i like pxe because it's EZ but sure usb works
18:23 < Hunterkll> ktechmidas, this is what a zone file entry looks like
18:23 < Hunterkll> internationalyachtcollection.xxx.	86400	in	ns	nsb1.icmregistry.net.
18:23 < Hunterkll> internationalyachtcollection.xxx.	86400	in	ns	nsb2.icmregistry.net.
18:23 < Hunterkll> (yes, that is a SFW site, it's just a parker from the registrar)
18:23 < Hunterkll> though i suggest not visiting anything .xxx if work is filtering your internets
18:23 < Hunterkll> :p
18:24 < genr8_> i'm all about removing packages from windows and totally fucking it up
18:24 < asimon> Hunterkll: What's wrong with the appx removal (aside from windows reinstalling the shit in updates)
18:24 < Hunterkll> asimon, it's been known to tank updates and upgrades before
18:24 < Hunterkll> and it's entirely unneeded
18:25 < Hunterkll> and feature upgrades won't reinstall removed appx anymore
18:25 <@cryptic1> OMG this showed up in the mod queue
18:25 <@cryptic1> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8od3c7/intrinsic_probability_and_contingency/
18:25 <+layer-eight> * cryptic1 →  Intrinsic probability and contingency : sysadmin
18:25 < Hunterkll> but still, you want to be damn selective with what you DO remove
18:25 <@cryptic1> try reading that
18:25 <@cryptic1> I am going to remove it shortly
18:25 < genr8_> you can actually go into the WindowsApps and SystemApps folders and delete the program exe's to make you feel better (not 16k stubs)
18:25 < Hunterkll> genr8_, remove-appx if you remove the deployed and provisioned ones does that too
18:26 < Hunterkll> and yes, a fair amount of the software, but not all, is 16kb stubs
18:26 < Hunterkll> like, uh, candy crush
18:26 < genr8_> you mean like
18:26 < genr8_> yea
18:26 < genr8_> k
18:26 < Hunterkll> actually, candy crush won't even show on an offline install of enterprise
18:26 < Hunterkll> with a local account
18:26 < Hunterkll> but anyway
18:26 <@killdash9> cryptic1: someone found a thesaurus
18:26 <@cryptic1> killdash9, hehe
18:26 <@Code_Man65> Good fucking god, talk about buzzword bingo
18:26 <@cryptic1> yeap
18:26 <@cryptic1> its horrible
18:26 < Hunterkll> AAAAAAND I'M DONE BROWSING RANDOM .XXX'S I FIND IN THE ZONE FILE
18:26 < genr8_> i made a VM with all 6 builds of win10 and im gonna start comparing them on my spare time. I already diffed the services with a script
18:27 < pupp3r> i lol'd at the top comment
18:27 < asimon> So if that's not the right way to remove the bloatware, what GPO's are the "correct" way to do it?
18:27 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, check that link
18:27 < Hunterkll> i did
18:27 < Hunterkll> i have it open for later reading
18:27 < Hunterkll> but looks like a crazy is afoot
18:27 < asimon> I wasn't able to find them when I looked a couple months ago
18:27 <@cryptic1> its going to be removed shortly
18:27 < Hunterkll> yes it is open in my browser
18:27 <@cryptic1> maybe i should leave it
18:27 < Hunterkll> ravioli, .net is uploading now
18:27 < pcspkr> Hunterkll: what did you find
18:27 < Hunterkll> pcspkr, there are things better left to the imagination
18:27 < Hunterkll> and/or better left unknown
18:27 < pcspkr> Hunterkll: start reading the hsts preload lists
18:28 < genr8_> `System administration is a fertile field for exploring all of this because we deal with all sorts of crazy situations nobody ever thought of and then we think about how to code for those edge cases in the future.`
18:29 <@killdash9> cryptic1: please make it go away.
18:29 < genr8_> is a SysAdmin the opposite of AI ?
18:29 <@cryptic1> hahaha
18:29 < katnip> http://www.governmentattic.org/28docs/NSAsecurityPosters_1950s-60s.pdf
18:29 <+layer-eight> * katnip →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 76,885,971 bytes
18:29 < Hunterkll> ravioli, https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9gw4wn6x85a4ej/20180604-net-zone-data.txt.gz?dl=0
18:29 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Dropbox - 20180604-net-zone-data.txt.gz
18:29 < Hunterkll> NinjaStyle, ^ .net TLD zone file
18:29 <@killdash9> I generally don't 'code for edge cases' because they are, surprise, edge cases you can't fucking predict.
18:30 < katnip> you MS fans better read that
18:30 < Hunterkll> lol
18:30 < genr8_> you are supposed to look for obvious edge cases at least
18:30 < Hunterkll> if it's obvious, it's not an edge case
18:30 <@killdash9> ^^^
18:30 < genr8_> heh
18:31 <@killdash9> you try predicting the stupid thing a dev is going to do next. I dare you. Try it. First you'll need a lobotomy though. Comes with the territory.
18:31 < katnip> that link i posted gives MS freedom to the NSA, better read that before cheering on github
18:32 < Hunterkll> .....?
18:32 < Hunterkll> what the fuck are you talking about
18:32 < katnip> are you stupid? read the link
18:32 < Hunterkll> you linked a bunch of motivational posted about operational security
18:32 <@killdash9> katnip: just how much katnip have you smoked today?
18:33 < katnip> ok
18:33 < katnip> just remember
18:33 < Hunterkll> you basically linked a bunch of posters reminding people how to handle classified data
18:33 < Hunterkll> your point?
18:33 < Hunterkll> this says nothing about microsoft
18:33 <@ravioli> thank you Hunterkll!
18:33 < genr8_> if you connect the dots it does.... IN YOUR MIND
18:33 < Hunterkll> ravioli, use it only for evil
18:33 <@killdash9> Hunterkll: no, see. Micro$haft planted that info 20 years before they even formed as a company. It's the long con
18:33 < Hunterkll> literally half of those posters are about securing filing cabnets and safes
18:33 < Hunterkll> lol
18:34 < abakedapplepie> PEPE SILVA PEPE SILVA WHO IS PEPE SILVA
18:34 < Hunterkll> I get an annual refresher on this bullshit
18:34 < Hunterkll> l;ol
18:34 <@killdash9> Microsoft=communism. Remember that always
18:34 < katnip> A-KO wanted me to join this channel, this channel is horseshit
18:34 <@killdash9> no, wait. That's Linux, right?
18:35 < genr8_> aw
18:35 < genr8_> that was pretty bad tho
18:35 < TB396540> Ok, it seems that our Exchange vs Fortimail issue is on Exchange.
18:35 < abakedapplepie> Y U TAKE OUR PLAYTHING DAD
18:36 < abakedapplepie> I WANT THE KATNIP BACK
18:36 < abakedapplepie> D:
18:36 < genr8_> Hunterkll: just warning theres gonna be ppl tomorrow talking about this, and even later, and even more stupid
18:36  * killdash9 doesn't have time for quite that much stupid this week. 
18:36 < abakedapplepie> github is a meme now
18:36 < Hunterkll> killdash9, apparently a-ko asked him to join a year ago
18:36 < asimon> That seemed a little harsh
18:36 < Hunterkll> lol
18:36 < genr8_> totally
18:36 < Hunterkll> "He's a paranoid OSS junky i've known for a number of years on IRC..." he said
18:37 <@Code_Man65> heh
18:37 < TB396540> EdgeTransport.exe consumes all CPU
18:37 < TB396540> For no reason..
18:37 <@killdash9> and he thought he'd fit in? Good plan
18:37 < TB396540> This happened on Friday evening for few hours, solved by itself.
18:37 <@JollyRgrs> TB396540: that's MSFT using your computer as storage for github
18:37 <@Code_Man65> He should go hang out with Stallman then
18:37 <@cryptic1> OMG THE NSAs MS GITLAB!!!!
18:37 < Hunterkll> killdash9, i'm beginning to think it may have been some kind of prank....
18:37 < gnupluslinux> Anyone ever done a working holiday in nz?
18:37 <@JollyRgrs> gnupluslinux: never been to nz
18:38 < abakedapplepie> i kind of want to get some of these posters printed
18:38 <@ravioli> Hunterkll: sorry for the dumb question but what's the number in the second column mean? and also the letters "in" in the third column?
18:38 < dragonfleas> I wish I had the resources to set up SCCM
18:38 <@cryptic1> abakedapplepie, exploited
18:38 < Hunterkll> ravioli, first how big is the extracted file
18:38 < Hunterkll> lol
18:38 <@cryptic1> abakedapplepie, katnip is reading your browser history right now!
18:39 < gnupluslinux> JollyRgrs neither have i but been meaning to. Working holiday seems like a cool option.
18:39 <@ravioli> Hunterkll: 1.86GB
18:39 < abakedapplepie> oh shit
18:39 < Hunterkll> damn
18:39 < Hunterkll> not bad
18:39 < Hunterkll> ravioli, the number is the TTL for the record
18:39 <@ravioli> ah.
18:39 <@cryptic1> abakedapplepie, he is going to post it to gitlab because well you know MS bought github ZOMG!
18:39 < gnupluslinux> Just wondering if its limited to farm work or not and how logistics is
18:39 <@JollyRgrs> no clue
18:40 < gnupluslinux> M$ft
18:40 < gnupluslinux> Big bad
18:40 < gnupluslinux> Everyone get off github and go to fossil with rkeene
18:40 < Hunterkll> ravioli, anyway -
18:40 <@cryptic1> rkeene actually has made a replacement for github serveral years ago its done in tcl
18:41 < Hunterkll> ravioli, you'll see 2-4 records, maybe more, per domain
18:41 <@cryptic1> has/had
18:41 < abakedapplepie> man theres a lot of god and faith and shit in these posters
18:41 < abakedapplepie> kinda odd
18:41 <@killdash9> abakedapplepie: are you a Commie? You sound like a Commie
18:41 < Hunterkll> ravioli, blah.net 86400 IN NS ns1.blah.net | and so it can resolve the nameserver - ns1.blah.net 86400 IN A 127.0.0.1
18:41 < Hunterkll> if a shitload of domains use the same name server setup, you'll only see one A record for that nameserver
18:41 < Hunterkll> not 320958230598230
18:42 < Hunterkll> that's how the root dns servers know what ns1.blah.net means and know how to point you there
18:42 < Hunterkll> IN == internet
18:42 < Hunterkll> NS == nameserver
18:42 < Hunterkll> A == host record
18:42 < Hunterkll> that IN is the 'class' of dns record
18:42 <@ravioli> gotcha
18:43 < Hunterkll> ravioli, there's apparently only two other classes that I can find - Chaos, some 1975 MIT thing CH, and Hesiod HS some 83-91 project
18:43 < Hunterkll> so you'll only ever see 'in' normally i guess
18:43 < Hunterkll> HS was used for some database stuff
18:43 < Hunterkll> which ...
18:44 < Hunterkll> why the fuck would you store /etc/passwd as DNS records?!?!?!
18:44 < Hunterkll> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesiod_(name_service)\
18:44 < Hunterkll> foo.passwd.ns.example.net  HS  TXT  "foo:x:100:10:Foo Bar:/home/foo:/bin/sh"
18:44 < gnupluslinux> Hhehehehe
18:44 < pcspkr> I would if I could
18:45 < gnupluslinux> I would just to piss off Hunterkll
18:45 < Hunterkll> any other TLDs people want?
18:45 < Hunterkll> like .youtube? :P
18:46 < Hunterkll> LOL WTF
18:46 < Hunterkll> I was denied for .nba but approved for .navy
18:46 < Hunterkll> lmao
18:46 < rhqq> =]
18:46 < rhqq> try getting .cn
18:46 < Hunterkll> ah
18:46 <@killdash9> if it's not inthe.navy I'll be disappoint
18:46 < Hunterkll> denied on NBA due to an error in my submission
18:47 < Hunterkll> killdash9, that's available for $128.70
18:47 < genr8_> Additionally, Hesiod does not in itself provide  any mechanism for securing information stored in  Hesiod tables. Not only are Hesiod tables stored in  plain text on Hesiod servers, but Hesiod information is  also transported over the network in plain text. Fur-  ther, Hesiod servers do not necessarily enforce any  limits on what client machines can gain access to Hes-  iod information, although recent versions of the BIND  name server can
18:47 < genr8_> be used to address that problem.
18:47 < genr8_> it must be so old
18:48 < Hunterkll> rhqq, .cn isn't in the system. i'd have to go directly to the chinese for that
18:48 < Hunterkll> genr8_, late 80s to 90s
18:48 < Hunterkll> era
18:48 < rhqq> yup
18:48 < rhqq> :P
18:48 < rhqq> i have .cn
18:49 < genr8_> some crap still relies on this ancient shit
18:49 < genr8_> and worse.
18:50 <+NinjaStyle> Maybe GA isn't bad
18:50 < Hunterkll> ?
18:50 <+NinjaStyle> It's pretty comfortable out
18:50 < Hunterkll> oh the state
18:50 < Hunterkll> lol
18:51 < mrghostman> NinjaStyle: wont last
18:51 <+NinjaStyle> I thought it'd be shit like Texas
18:51 < mrghostman> by the weekend it will be humid AF again
18:52 < rhqq> right now it's 50% at my place and its getting worse and worse
18:52 < gnupluslinux> Can confirm. GA humid as shit
18:52 <+NinjaStyle> Not right now
18:52 < gnupluslinux> Was only in the airport and it still sucked
18:52 <+NinjaStyle> 36% here
18:53 < rhqq> mrghostman: hby
18:53 < Hunterkll> MICROSOFT
18:53 < Hunterkll> WE NEED TO TALK
18:53 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/uzOEmkR.png
18:53 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 137,341 bytes
18:53 < Hatter> hehe
18:54 < Hunterkll> that system has been false positiving RSATs for like a year
18:54 < Hunterkll> and only that system
18:54 < DomLS3> positiving?
18:54 < DomLS3> is that even a word?
18:54 < Hunterkll> fuck you
18:54 <+NinjaStyle> What are words but a thing to convey an idea
18:55 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: you on your period again I see
18:55 < Hatter> NinjaStyle: Humpty Dumpty said much the same thing
18:55 <+NinjaStyle> That bitch got his ass beat for it too
18:56 < DomLS3> Jack and Jill went up a hill so jack could kiss Jill's candy. But Jack got a shock and a mouth full of cock cause Jill's real name is Randy.
18:57 <+NinjaStyle> Jack knew
18:57 <@cryptic1> yeah thats enough for now
18:57 <@cryptic1> bbl
19:00 < DomLS3> cryptic1: I see you're not a fan of poetry.
19:00 < rhqq> cryptic1: yeah, go away
19:00 < Hunterkll> lol
19:00 <@cryptic1> I can set it again if you want
19:00  * cryptic1 shrugs
19:00 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, who's gonna rage quit the channel today
19:00 < Hatter> DomLS3: good job getting us all in trouble again, you're like the private pyle of the channel
19:00 < DomLS3> set deez nuts
19:00 < Hatter> thank you
19:00 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, no idea
19:01 < DomLS3> Hatter is cancer to this channel
19:01 < Hunterkll> DomLS3, yea but you're super toxic
19:01 < Hunterkll> >:3
19:01 < DomLS3> He gives no advice, has 0 actual sysadmin knowledge, and is a complete snowflake who gets his feelers hurt on the daily
19:01 < Hatter> how dare you
19:01 < DomLS3> see ^
19:01 < DomLS3> hurt feelers
19:01 < corn266> Oh Hunterkll btw it's not that I didn't set up group policy to prevent those apps, it's that M$ doesn't respect those GPO settings if you're not on enterprise or education
19:01  * pupp3r grabs popcorn
19:02 < pupp3r> anyone want some?
19:02 <+NinjaStyle> You both are smelly nerds
19:02 < DomLS3> I bring life and entertainment to this otherwise boring channel
19:02 < Hatter> I've got some advise for you DomLS3: Check the 'tude, or you're cruisin for a bruisin
19:02 < Hatter> alright?
19:02 < Hunterkll> corn266, there's ways to deal with it there too without fucking around the base OS configuration
19:02 < Hatter> advice I mean
19:02 < Hunterkll> but meh
19:02 < Hunterkll> i can't read the documentation for everyone
19:02 < DomLS3> Hatter: I don't bruise easily. So...
19:02 < Hunterkll> i prefer to point and laugh after it blows up:)
19:02 < felda> cryptic1 is such a dork he rides one of those laying-back bicycles to work
19:03 < corn266> Hopefully I'm fucking long gone before it blows up though
19:03 < pupp3r> the squidward bike? those are awesome though
19:03 <+NinjaStyle> cryptic1: rides a scooter to the skate park
19:03 < Hunterkll> corn266, you leavin' in 6-8 months? :)
19:03 <@cryptic1> I do
19:03 < Hunterkll> corn266, though it has the potential to jack regular updates anyway
19:03 < Hunterkll> so oh well
19:03 <@cryptic1> oone of the wheels is broken NinjaStyle
19:03 <@cryptic1> so lots of stopping and dragging
19:03 < DomLS3> cryptic1: how many lootcrates would it cost to +q Hatter for 1 hour?
19:04 < Hunterkll> lol
19:04 < Hunterkll> rekt
19:04 <@cryptic1> on the house hatter
19:04 < Hatter> cheers man
19:04 < pupp3r> lmao
19:04 < Hunterkll> there's a reason DomLS3 is on https://www.hugebuttholes.com and hatter isn't
19:04 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Home of #reddit-sysadmin
19:04 < Hatter> I wish I could click that
19:04 < Hunterkll> I should put RIP on the people who ragequit
19:04 < Hunterkll> Hatter, it's pure HTML with only one image file (the under construction banner)
19:05 < Hunterkll> :)
19:05 < gnupluslinux> cryptic1 is tha suxx0rz
19:05 < Hunterkll> hand coded with love
19:05 < pupp3r> Hunterkll that site is really maturing nicely
19:05 <+NinjaStyle> You know how I know I'm in the south? A dude just blew past me in the parking lot to park in front of a hot wings store with a clay bird thrower is his truck bed
19:05 < Hunterkll> pupp3r, yea, the buttholes colors and table worked out well
19:05 < Hunterkll> lol
19:06 < pupp3r> my browsing history is looking pretty weird now though
19:06 < pupp3r> worth it
19:07 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: where's the guestbook?
19:07 <@JollyRgrs> pls to be adding guestbook
19:07 < Hatter> I forgot about guestbooks
19:07 < gnupluslinux> Not enough parallax scrolling Hunterkll
19:07 < cryptic_abuse> JollyRgrs: it's on www.gapingbuttholes.com
19:07 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, i don't have the upgraded book
19:07 < pupp3r> hmmm
19:07 < Hunterkll> the year 2000 edition
19:07 < Hunterkll> with CGI programming in perl
19:08 < gnupluslinux> You forgot the pageview counter
19:08 < Hunterkll> I only have HTML4, DHTML, XML, and JAva 1.2
19:08 < Hunterkll> :P
19:08 < gnupluslinux> I see the modabuse is out in full force today
19:08 < Hatter> guestbooks were invented when we didn't know how bad mannered people on the internet tend to be
19:08 <@JollyRgrs> haha
19:08 < cryptic_abuse> gnupluslinux: ++
19:08 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: also needs to be joined to a webring
19:09 <+NinjaStyle> Your website is shit, die cunt -your mom
19:09 < Hunterkll> lol
19:09 < asimon> What happened to work
19:09 < Hunterkll> this is work
19:09 < asimon> It's only 13:00 on a monday
19:09 <+NinjaStyle> What's work
19:09 <@JollyRgrs> i'm on a runbook meeting for something i don't care about
19:09 <@JollyRgrs> 1 hr of phone time to do nothing
19:10 <+NinjaStyle> I'm at lunch actually
19:10 < alazare619> i see the toxicity is getting thin
19:10 < modabuse> Im checking out working holiday options at work
19:10 <@JollyRgrs> toxicology report is in progress
19:11 < alazare619> we should put a bot in
19:11 < alazare619> .report <reasoncode>
19:12 < alazare619> i.e. .report JFDKthnx  toxic
19:12 < mal_will> What is a working holiday?
19:12 < mal_will> Do places do that?
19:12 <+NinjaStyle> I realized as I was pulling away from Hertz that this car was a bad idea, I'm gonna need to get gas like twice this week
19:12 < alazare619> see who is really considered the most toxic and if you are rank 1 you get a special prize called a k-line
19:12 <@JollyRgrs> alazare619: b/c that feature wouldn't be abused
19:13 < alazare619> did you get a hurst 302 mustang?
19:13 < pupp3r> a bold move. let's see if it works out for him
19:13 <+NinjaStyle> Nah just the low end charger
19:13 <@JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: why did you get a v4 charger? :P
19:14 <+NinjaStyle> It's v6
19:14 <@JollyRgrs> i'm just teasing
19:14 <+NinjaStyle> I should have got a hybrid
19:14 <+NinjaStyle> I just wanted to be loud and obnoxious
19:14 < Hunterkll> okay
19:15 < Hunterkll> i've added alazare619 to https://www.hugebuttholes.com/ and i've put -RIP next to the people who've ragequit
19:15 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Home of #reddit-sysadmin
19:15 < modabuse> mal_will holiday visa with right to worm
19:15 < modabuse> Work
19:15 < mal_will> I recently moved my solarwinds monitor to the other side of my cubicle and now people can't see if I'm at my desk until they walk past the monitor. My life has been so good. No one feels like walking an extra 5 steps, so they just don't. They just bother the tier one instead.
19:15 < modabuse> Cant accept a permanent occupation while in country. Main purpose should be to holiday. Limited by age range and duration
19:15 < mal_will> modabuse: so your current place will let you work remotely?
19:16 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: you need to use a bad quality image as a tiling wallpaper for the website
19:16 < modabuse> Nah i'd have to leave and get work there
19:16 < mal_will> o
19:17 < ebol4> that sounds like a pain
19:18 < admiralspark> morning
19:20 < alazare619> Hunterkll: <3 Hunterkll i knew you loved me
19:20 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: any easy TSQL to use in SSRS to determine the current Office 365 version being deployed via an ADR?
19:20 < MillerBoss> Shit forgot WWDC today https://twit.tv/live
19:20 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Live
19:20 < alazare619> Hunterkll: you coming through the midwest anytime soon
19:21 < MillerBoss> >AR
19:21 <@JollyRgrs> i have a query that pulls the latest ADR for windows updates which includes the title (which gives me date)... but i want to pull the version being offered
19:21 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  giant_it_burrit  has had lunch with ya and i havent...side note my cousin in this town is like a yugioh grand champ of the region or some shit
19:21 < Hunterkll> lol
19:22 < MillerBoss> https://twit.tv/live-popout/65196
19:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  TWiT Live Stream
19:22 < Sousapro> something something trap card
19:24 < int0x1C8> ADR?
19:24 < Hunterkll> automatic deployment rule
19:24 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, and not offhand, not much exp using O365 deployment
19:24 < MillerBoss> Apple and USDZ https://graphics.pixar.com/usd/files/USDZFileFormatSpecification.pdf
19:24 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 17,245 bytes
19:25 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: just PITA, i think i'll have to get the deployment and then populate the items in the deployment and grab the numerics from the string :(
19:25 <@JollyRgrs> i was just hoping someone already did the fun work
19:25 < StrongBad> yo, I used to manually set page file size on my standard build images but lately I'm wondering if system managed size is fine---esp now that every computer I buy has SSDs. Any opinions on this? I used to set it to 2048 - 4096
19:26 <@JollyRgrs> SSD is still slower than RAM
19:26 <@JollyRgrs> hwo mcuh RAM in the computers?
19:27 < abakedapplepie> system managed is usually ideal
19:27 <@JollyRgrs> windows will barf on you if you don't have SOMETHING set for pagefile
19:27 <@JollyRgrs> but yeah, system managed should be just fine
19:27 < admiralspark> StrongBad: system managed all the way
19:27 < Sousapro> ++
19:28 < StrongBad> 8gb JollyRgrs
19:28 < StrongBad> system managed it is!
19:28 < abakedapplepie> honestly you shouldnt ave been setting it manually unless you had a reason to
19:28 < int0x1C8> JollyRgrs what about m.2 SSDs
19:28 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, don't be a strongsad
19:28 <@JollyRgrs> int0x1C8: still slower than RAM
19:28 < abakedapplepie> still slower int0x1C8
19:28 <@JollyRgrs> maybe faster than PC100... lol
19:28 <@JollyRgrs> so i guess it depends
19:28 < int0x1C8> yeah, suppose it would be
19:28 < admiralspark> lol
19:29 < genr8_> what about Optane
19:29 < abakedapplepie> find me a motherboard that supports pc100 and m.2
19:29 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:29 < StrongBad> on physical disks I used to set it manually to 2gb to 4gb because 1) page files could change size wildly and caused a lot of fragmentation, and 2) lack of storage space on some PCs abakedapplepie
19:29 <@JollyRgrs> ok guys... PC66 or m.2 SSD for my RAM? lol
19:29 < abakedapplepie> #2 i understand
19:29 < abakedapplepie> but #1 should never happen
19:29 < admiralspark> StrongBad: but fragmentation hasn;'t been a problem in like, a decade. Or two
19:29 < StrongBad> IDK just something I read back in the day
19:30 < admiralspark> yeah, in 2002 it was probably a good idea
19:30 < StrongBad> it still is on physical disks unless I'm just retarded?
19:30 < StrongBad> which are still around
19:30 < admiralspark> W7 and up have background cleanup jobs and better file-level management
19:30 < abakedapplepie> the page file size usually doesnt change
19:30 < MillerBoss> Was USDZ made out of thin air today? Even at version 1.2 almost no info on it except https://graphics.pixar.com/usd/files/USDZFileFormatSpecification.pdf
19:30 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 17,245 bytes
19:30 < StrongBad> I've seen dynamic page files go from 2gb to 20gb
19:30 < abakedapplepie> itll increase up to the limit and typically stay there unless you change something
19:30 < khelpw> Now if only they'd roll winSXS cleanup into that cleanup job admiralspark  i'd consider it almost useful
19:30 < abakedapplepie> that sounds like a bad application more than an issue with the page file
19:31 < khelpw> I've seen dynamic page file break and shoot up to 100s of GB on a machine with like 32GB of RAM
19:31 < admiralspark> khelpw: right? I wonder if the sxs jobs caused issues in a lab or something
19:31 < khelpw> and yeah, it was a bad application
19:31 < admiralspark> but lets be real, that can't be it, Microsoft doesn't have labs or test invironments
19:31 < admiralspark> s/invironments/enviro's
19:31 <+layer-eight> [SED admiralspark] but lets be real, that can't be it, Microsoft doesn't have labs or test enviro's
19:31 < khelpw> admiralspark: I'd be more willing to believe that if the established best practice for dealing with it weren't to just run the disc cleanup tool.
19:32 < admiralspark> yeah, I suspect they have an ulterior motive for it
19:32 < mal_will> I have all SSDs. It's nice
19:32 < mal_will> I accidentally tried to defrag recently out of old habit and my computer was like "You dumb, or what?"
19:32 < abakedapplepie> my SSDs have SSDs
19:33 < hxcsp> abakedapplepie: that sounds technically dirty
19:33 < mal_will> my $lastadmin like, went on a crusade to get these ssd's in all endpoints
19:33 < admiralspark> it's ssd's all the way down
19:33 < khelpw> mal_will: I have endpoints running P4s with 2GB of RAM :D
19:33 < khelpw> people still act surprised when their HDDs fail
19:33 < mal_will> our 2014 models have like 120GB, it's so silly. but it's fasssst
19:33 < admiralspark> khelpw: oh, I see you work in healthcare
19:33 < khelpw> admiralspark: nope. Software :D
19:33 < admiralspark> what???
19:34 < khelpw> those are for our support people
19:34 < admiralspark> you build software on p4 machines??
19:34 < mal_will> I work in healthcare
19:34 < mal_will> your world is upside down!
19:34 < admiralspark> mal_will: wow, I'm surprised.
19:34 < abakedapplepie> mal_will: our first client builds when we switched to ssd used 64gb
19:34 < khelpw> lol might as well. A lot of our overseas devs are logging into w10 VMs hosted on boxes full of spinning rust with 4/8GB vRAM and 4vCPUs
19:34 < abakedapplepie> terrible decision making on the count of my superiors
19:34 < mal_will> lol khelpw your place is weird af
19:34 < abakedapplepie> we ended up replacing all of them with 120s
19:34 < khelpw> No, it's entirely consistent
19:34 < admiralspark> khelpw: rough...
19:34 < khelpw> It's just consistently retarded
19:34 < abakedapplepie> you literally cant use a computer with 64gb of ram in this day and age
19:34 < mal_will> 64gb would suck so hard
19:35 < abakedapplepie> er
19:35 < mal_will> my phone has 128
19:35 < abakedapplepie> ssd
19:35 < admiralspark> abakedapplepie: you mean hdd right
19:35 < khelpw> admiralspark: best part  of that - "Overseas" = people in India using RDP to connect over a site-to-site VPN with a ~200-300ms latency
19:35 < admiralspark> because 64gb ram
19:35 < admiralspark> would be nice
19:35 < hxcsp> 64Gb of ram is useless
19:35 < abakedapplepie> yes
19:35 < hxcsp> thats like two chrome tabs
19:35 < abakedapplepie> i corrected myself :P
19:35 < gnupluslinux> My desktop at home has 64. Only ever use 4 nowadays for da internets
19:35 < khelpw> they keep trying to figure out why the user experience for those devs is such garbage
19:35 < admiralspark> khelpw: oh god, nevermind, you work for someone supporting Oracle software then? :P
19:36 < admiralspark> too bad there's not technology to help with that
19:36 < khelpw> I've had to break out the grace hopper videos to explain the length of a nanosecond to these guys
19:36 < mal_will> Oh, RAM
19:36 < khelpw> a number of times
19:36 < mal_will> my bad
19:36 < admiralspark> or even a field with a catchy name. Like, DevOps
19:36 < mal_will> I've got 20gb of RAM in my T470s and I dig it. It's a nice little toaster
19:36 < admiralspark> gnupluslinux: I wish. 16gb at work, I run vm's on this box too, it's rough :(
19:37 < gnupluslinux> admiralspark oof
19:37 < abakedapplepie> never heard of the grace hopper nanosecond
19:37 < abakedapplepie> thats kinda neat
19:37 < abakedapplepie> reminds me of that dailywtf about email that would not deliver if it was more than 60 miles away
19:37 < gnupluslinux> With string right?
19:37 < gnupluslinux> Grace hopper's a cool dude
19:37 < mal_will> lol hxcsp
19:37 < abakedapplepie> dudette*
19:38 < gnupluslinux> We're all dudes
19:38 < abakedapplepie> oh that wasnt even a dailywtf
19:38 < abakedapplepie> that was an old copy paste
19:38 < gnupluslinux> Shes like a vice admiral too isnt she
19:38 < mal_will> dude is genderless
19:38 < abakedapplepie> https://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html
19:38 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  The case of the 500-mile email
19:38 <@JollyRgrs> FONR!
19:38 < felda> who dare FONR?!
19:38 < gnupluslinux> RNOF
19:38 <@cryptic1> FONR
19:38 < DomLS3> <3
19:39 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: i remember that story. lol
19:41 < MillerBoss> Here is the source from last night https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/1003626301977026561
19:41 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Miguel de Icaza on Twitter: "Satya looked at Microsoft’s bill from all the code we host on GitHub and figured it would be cheaper to buy the company."
19:41 < MillerBoss> Makes sense to me
19:42 < Alternity> I like how microsoft wants us all to use modern auth for o365 but it's still buggy as shit https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4025962/can-t-sign-in-after-update-to-office-2016-build-16-0-7967-on-windows-1
19:43 < Alternity> been an outstanding issue for months....
19:43 < mal_will> It's the cycle though
19:43 < mal_will> can't get funding without users
19:43 < mal_will> can't hire talent without funding
19:43 < mal_will> can't fix bugs without talent
19:45 < Alternity> lol https://twitter.com/PKs_Flowers/status/1003630806848458752
19:45 <+layer-eight> * Alternity →  Karen Flores on Twitter: "… "
19:45 < Alternity> i miss old simpsons
19:46 < MillerBoss> Sounds about right Alternity (Bill)
19:46 < mal_will> That whole thread is silly af
19:46 < Alternity> 7.5 billion is pretty wild
19:46 < mal_will> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/lhSUyG4w/image.png
19:46 <+layer-eight> * mal_will →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 45,615 bytes
19:46 < Alternity> i would never have priced github as worth that much
19:47 < Alternity> then again didn't facebook buy whatsapp for like 20 billion
19:47 < asimon> And linkid for $75m iirc
19:47 < mal_will> whatsapp is big internationally, even though it seems to be dying in the US
19:47 < asimon> s/75m/75b
19:47 <+layer-eight> [SED asimon] And linkid for $75b iirc
19:48 < mal_will> also, it was $4b in case and $12 b in facebook shares for whatsapp
19:48 < mal_will> I wouldn't be too pumped on those shares
19:51 < JFDkthx> man fucking storebought beef jerky is whore shit
19:51 < Alternity> yup
19:51 < Alternity> there are a few nice organic, grass fed brands
19:51 < Alternity> but they are pricey
19:51 < JFDkthx> savage jerky is the only good commercial jerky
19:51 < khelpw> So get a couple box fans from Target, some paper towels, and make your own
19:51 < MillerBoss> Wow these comments. https://twitter.com/microsoft/status/1003622903298998272
19:51 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Microsoft on Twitter: "Microsoft to acquire @GitHub, the world’s leading software development platform. https://t.co/hAEN6bJcsg… "
19:51 < khelpw> I make a lot of jerky over the summer. Great trail food
19:51 <@JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: https://www.wildbillsfoods.com/product/productslist/3/Jerky%20from%20the%20Jar closest to the best i've had outside of TX/OK/AZ general store stuff
19:52 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  Jerky from the Jar
19:52 < Alternity> microsoft has a lot of ill will to get through
19:52 < Alternity> those of us in tech know microsoft has actually been doing pretty well last few years
19:52 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: let me look at it
19:52 < Alternity> but most people dont even know github hosts 1k+ microsoft repositories
19:52 < Alternity> and would give you a blank look if you mentioned .net core
19:52 <@JollyRgrs> lol, exactly Alternity
19:52 < mal_will> why not a food dehydrator khelpw
19:53 <+SpeakerToMeat> It always bodes to be a troublesome day when I have the urge to listen to Run The Jewels
19:53 < khelpw> Food dehydrator works, but you'll end up with greasy jerky. Those are better for dried fruits etc imo. Good Eats actually did an episode on it that made me try Alton Brown's method and it works
19:53 < JFDkthx> SpeakerToMeat: only you and hatter liek that
19:54 < Hatter> WHAT
19:54 < khelpw> https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/beef-jerky-recipe-2103581
19:54 <+layer-eight> * khelpw →  Beef Jerky Recipe | Alton Brown | Food Network
19:54 < MillerBoss> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
19:54 < MillerBoss> Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers
19:54 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  YouTube → Developers → ⚘ 5,418,611 ↑ 64,078 ↓ 5,776 ✍ 25,556
19:54 < Hatter> JFDkthx: I've told you before, I don't go in for ethnic music
19:54 < MillerBoss> Say it with me
19:55 < Hunterkll> GUYS
19:55 < Hunterkll> GUYS
19:55 < Hunterkll> THIS JUST IN FROM WWDC2018
19:55 < Hunterkll> ANIMOJI BEING TAKEN TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL
19:56 < pupp3r> lmao
19:56 < pupp3r> apple has their priorities ion the right place
19:56 < genr8_> JollyRgrs: What are the good wild bills flavors
19:57 < MillerBoss> >GitHub: We have updated out privacy policy.
19:57 <@JollyRgrs> genr8_: i dunno, i've only had original
19:57 <@JollyRgrs> i don't like much variation in my beef jerky though
19:57 < Hunterkll> pupp3r, they're also adding granular notification controls and and do not disturb modes
19:57 < Hunterkll> to iOS 12
19:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> Oh shit I'm havign to turn the volume up, it IS a bad day
19:57 <@JollyRgrs> maybe like hickory or something like that at the most
19:57 < Hunterkll> which is welcome, but i won't be upgrading till a jailbreak is out
19:57 < Hunterkll> lol
19:58 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: did you upgrade to 11.3.1
19:58 < abakedapplepie> my body is ready
19:58 < abakedapplepie> ditched 10.2
19:59 < Hunterkll> ?
19:59 < Hunterkll> fuck no
19:59 < Hunterkll> 11.1.2
19:59 < abakedapplepie> release for 11.3.1 imminent
19:59 < MillerBoss> 11.4.1 here
19:59 < abakedapplepie> possibly today
19:59 < abakedapplepie> signing window for 11.3.1 is closing soon
19:59 < abakedapplepie> possibly today
19:59 < Hunterkll> 11.3.1 not jailbroken
19:59 < abakedapplepie> its confirmed and about to be released
19:59 < abakedapplepie> possibly today
19:59 < Hunterkll> oh?
20:00 < abakedapplepie> yes
20:00 < genr8_> JollyRgrs: you dont happen to have a promo code or referral code do you ? im gonna get some
20:00 < abakedapplepie> but 11.3.1 signing window is expected to be closed after wwdc
20:00 < abakedapplepie> or possibly during
20:00 < Hunterkll> is that the latest?
20:00 < Hunterkll> as of right now?
20:00 <+SpeakerToMeat> But don't you need to have an iphone to run iOS?
20:00 < abakedapplepie> 11.4 just came out
20:00 < abakedapplepie> 11.3.1 is still signed
20:00 < Hunterkll> shit
20:00 < Hunterkll> okay
20:00 < Hunterkll> on it
20:01 < Hunterkll> that means i can update my apple watch firmware now
20:01 < Hunterkll> lol
20:01 < abakedapplepie> https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/8nojiq/discussionmegathread_ios_1131s_possible_jailbreak/
20:01 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  [Discussion][Megathread] iOS 11.3.1's Possible Jailbreak - FAQ and Support Thread : jailbreak
20:01 < Hunterkll> yea
20:01 < abakedapplepie> yeah thats what a lot of people are happy about
20:01 < MillerBoss> Group FaceTime. Better late than never. Up to 32 people
20:01 < abakedapplepie> wow
20:02 < Hunterkll> shit which iphone X do i have now
20:02 < abakedapplepie> thats like 3 years too late
20:02 < Hunterkll> do i have to unjailbreak to update
20:02 < Hunterkll> htf do i do this
20:02 < Hunterkll> i should save my blobs
20:02 < Hunterkll> so i can downgrade
20:02 < abakedapplepie> do a full PC backup
20:02 < abakedapplepie> download the 11.3.1 IPSW
20:02 < abakedapplepie> then do a restore
20:02 < abakedapplepie> then reapply your backup
20:02 < Hunterkll> even with electra & cydia installed?
20:03 < abakedapplepie> yeah it should only backup legit apps and settings
20:03 < Hunterkll> i've had it restore JB stuff before
20:03 < Hunterkll> :p
20:03 < abakedapplepie> i know
20:03 < abakedapplepie> but for the most part those are just APKs
20:03 < Hunterkll> backup in progress
20:03 < Hunterkll> yea
20:03 < abakedapplepie> some people reported CC settings getting wonky
20:03 < abakedapplepie> the fix is to just disable all CC options, open cc, close cc, reenable options you want
20:04 < Hunterkll> 11.4 nonce is compatible with 11.3.1,
20:04 < abakedapplepie> yeah
20:04 < Hunterkll> so i might not have to update ?
20:04 < Hunterkll> just yet
20:04 < abakedapplepie> well
20:04 < abakedapplepie> with 11.4.1 coming after wwdc or during or maybe its already out
20:04 < abakedapplepie> 11.4 ded
20:04 < Hunterkll> how do i save my blobs its been a fucking long time
20:04 < abakedapplepie> then 11.3.1 ded
20:04 < abakedapplepie> idk
20:04 < abakedapplepie> never done it
20:04 < MillerBoss> Whats the point of jailbreaking nowadays?
20:04 < Hunterkll> If you save your current SHSH2 blobs, you'll always be able to roll back your firmware to the iOS version your phone is currently running
20:04 < abakedapplepie> i wouldnt even know where to begin MillerBoss
20:04 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, that's why it's important
20:04 < abakedapplepie> lots of things
20:05 < Hunterkll> if i do this i can always roll back to 11.1.2
20:05 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: i just plan on not bricking my shit
20:05 < abakedapplepie> you can always restore to your current firmware if you dont break things
20:05 < alazare619> anyone in here have a steam controller?
20:05 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, unless they don't sign it anymore
20:05 < Hunterkll> you can't do a DFU restore if it's not signed
20:05 < abakedapplepie> right thats what i mean
20:05 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: no one likes blobs, small gang only
20:05 < abakedapplepie> you dont need to DFU if you just want to reset shit
20:05 < abakedapplepie> DFU is for when you fuck up
20:06 < asimon> alazare619: Yes, what's up?
20:06 < alazare619> do you have to launch the game via steam?
20:06 < alazare619> i.e. if i wana use the controller on a non steam game
20:06 <@Code_Man65> SQL Server question to validate my thinking.  In a query if you use update instead of insert it will update the record if it doesn't exist or update it if it does, right?
20:06 < asimon> I don't believe so
20:06 < Hunterkll> ipsw downloaded
20:07 < abakedapplepie> MillerBoss some of the stuff i use jailbreak for: full ios night mode, "free" tethering, Activator, weather on my lockscreen
20:07 < asimon> Though I've had a bunch of issues with my steam controller either not connecting or having weird button mappings or not talking to my steam link
20:07 < alazare619> ipswitch mail server Hunterkll ?
20:07 < Hunterkll> .... no
20:07 < Hunterkll> ipod software
20:07 < Hunterkll> :P
20:07 < asimon> So you might just have to play around and turn everything off and on again a whole bunch of times
20:07 < alazare619> was going to say
20:07 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: update changes a value. insert creates a new value
20:07 < alazare619> thats a name i havent heard in like 15 years lmao
20:08 < abakedapplepie> i also like having a text notification icon in the status bar
20:08 < abakedapplepie> something apple never implemented
20:08 < abakedapplepie> fucking retarded
20:08 < abakedapplepie> oh and callbar/volume bar
20:08 < abakedapplepie> what a life saver
20:08 < Hunterkll> damnit
20:09 < Hunterkll> alazare619, i only have the shsh2 blobs for 11.3.1 and 11.4
20:09 < Hunterkll> which means i can always install those firmware versions
20:09 < Hunterkll> but i can't get them for 11.1.2
20:09 < Hunterkll> :(
20:09 < MillerBoss> abakedapplepie: I see. Are you concerned about security at all on the device since then applications now have larger access to the device?
20:09 < Hunterkll> alazare619, wait, now that i have 11.3.1 and 11.4 shsh2 blobs i don't have to emergency upgrade right now
20:09 < Hunterkll> :)
20:09 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  i just choose not to use istuff
20:09 < Hunterkll> er
20:09 < Hunterkll> i meant that for abakedapplepie
20:09 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, now that i have my blobs i can install 11.3.1 and 11.4 whenever i want
20:09 < abakedapplepie> not terribly, no. but i also dont really use a whole lot of apps and frankly facebook already knows everything about me so what else are they going to steal
20:10 < Hunterkll> using futurerestore/prometheus
20:10 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: just remember that futurerestore has issues with faceid/touchid
20:10 < Hunterkll> good thing I detest both features
20:10 < abakedapplepie> should be an absolute last resort
20:10 < Hunterkll> biometrics police can use to unlock yours hit without consent
20:10 < Hunterkll> shit
20:10 < abakedapplepie> well good thing thats against the law
20:11 < asimon> Do you guys feel that biometrics are better or worse for privacy as a whole?
20:11 < abakedapplepie> i actually used my knuckle for my fingerprint ID
20:11 < abakedapplepie> so if a cop tried that
20:11 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, hah, yea right
20:11 < abakedapplepie> he would have a hard time
20:11 < abakedapplepie> you dont *have* to use the tip of your index finger
20:11 < genr8_> probably better but not that great
20:11 < abakedapplepie> you can use your nose
20:11 < asimon> I personally don't like them - you can reset a password but not your fingerprint or your face if that gets compromised
20:11 < genr8_> thats my worry too
20:11 < abakedapplepie> or your penis
20:11 <@Code_Man65> Ok, turns out I should just use MERGE
20:11 < Hatter> how about I compromise your face with my fist
20:12 < alazare619> wait Hunterkll  you dont like biometrics?
20:12 < genr8_> sooner or later, everyones faces and fingerprints will have been leaked online and effectively can be sondiered insecure/burned
20:12 < abakedapplepie> i wouldnt reccomend unlocking your phone in public with your penis though
20:12 < Hatter> I'm sorry, that wasn't a genuine threat
20:12 < Hunterkll> alazare619, biometrics COMBINED with a PIN would be great
20:12 < genr8_> Considered*
20:12 < abakedapplepie> ^
20:12 < Hunterkll> I can't be compelled to testify against myself, but i CAN be compelled to give them my fingerprints
20:12 < abakedapplepie> or a gesture of some sort
20:12 < Hunterkll> and that pin would be testimony
20:12 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  biometrics w/ a pin is how my nexus 6p works
20:12 < Hunterkll> yea, but the 6p and 5x are shit phones
20:12 < Hunterkll> which is why i never upgraded from my nexus 6
20:12 < Hunterkll> :)
20:13 < alazare619> the 6p is a great phone
20:13 < alazare619> just with shit oem batteries i found out
20:13 < Hunterkll> and cut features and a shit manufactuerr
20:13 < Hunterkll> Huawei got shut out of the US market, didn't they? :)
20:13 < alazare619> its the best nexus phone ive had yet
20:13 < alazare619> i had a nexus 5, a nexus 5x, a nexus 6 and a nexus 6p and so far its my favorite
20:14 < Hunterkll> yes, but i've seen/held/diddled it
20:14 < alazare619> id like to get one of the moto 6's
20:14 < Hunterkll> construction quality less, shittier baseband, etc
20:14 < Hunterkll> I do have a samsung S8+ though
20:14 < Hunterkll> but i never use it
20:14 < MillerBoss> Walkie Talkie in Apple Watch - nice!
20:15 < alazare619> i think the LG G7 thin will be badass
20:15 < alazare619> it will be Lg's first google fi capable phone
20:20 < felda> in his spare time alazare619 likes to go to the park and run around role playing as a Panzer III tank crushing kids under his tracks
20:20 < coderphive> bc his mixtape is fire
20:20 < MillerBoss> What does felda do in his spare time?
20:20 < coderphive> not work on felda.io
20:20 < felda> ^
20:21 < felda> I was going to spin up a new instance of felda.io, but there was a picture on the tutorial website that had a woman in it so I spent the next 3 hours as me time in my bedroom
20:21 < MillerBoss> I am trying to troll you and Hunterkll with https://trollme.xyz I am not doing a good job.
20:21 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Trolololololol's Я Us!
20:21 < coderphive> jesus
20:21 < alazare619> felda in his free time goes around doing the good lords work and spreading word of the one true lord and savior PfSense
20:22 < coderphive> honestly i'm running a pfsense vm rn
20:22 < felda> noice
20:22 < abakedapplepie> what is with this odd new trend of making callout lists on the internet for people in #r-s
20:23 < coderphive> abakedapplepie, link?
20:23 < abakedapplepie> https://trollme.xyz
20:23 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  MillerBoss → Trolololololol's Я Us!
20:23 < abakedapplepie> also cocaine.club or whatever
20:23 < abakedapplepie> and felda.io
20:23 < coderphive> pfsense™
20:23 < abakedapplepie> and im sure more have come up
20:23 < MillerBoss> lol
20:23 < rhqq> coderphive: hi o/
20:23 < rhqq> hows your health
20:23 < coderphive> still sick
20:23 < coderphive> I stayed home
20:23 < alazare619> MillerBoss:  i made the list!
20:24 < alazare619> i'm on every list felda.io hugebuttholes and trollme
20:24 < alazare619> #trifecta
20:24 < MillerBoss> I just picked at random. The list is random at refresh too
20:24 < felda> I'm just glad I'm not on any of those websites
20:25 < coderphive> liar
20:25 < alazare619> you need the airhorn rick astley song to play in the background
20:25 < MillerBoss> I need to figure out my CloudFront fu as the cache'n is something I do not understand when I update the site.
20:25 < coderphive> you can purge cache
20:25 < MillerBoss> I did but the browser on my end still uses the local cache
20:26 < coderphive> o
20:26 < coderphive> You can set cache limits in headers bae
20:26 < MillerBoss> Well its hit and miss I saw.
20:26 < alazare619> what day did marty go back to in back to the future
20:26 < alazare619> you got 5 seconds
20:26 < Hatter> thursday!
20:26 < hxcsp> 10/21/2015
20:27 < alazare619> it was a saturday
20:27 < Hatter> yeah nice google cheating
20:27 < DomLS3> I'm on all 3 as well lol
20:27 < Hatter> DomLS3: 4, you're on my list too
20:27 < coderphive> there's a third?
20:27 < DomLS3> Hatter: Your list is trash though
20:27 < coderphive> what's the third
20:28 < Hatter> DomLS3: it certainly is
20:28 < DomLS3> coderphive: felda.io, hugebuttholes.com, trollme.xyz
20:28 <@cryptic1> this is antirage quit monday
20:28 < coderphive> felda.io is parked
20:28 < alazare619> actually only reason i know was remember remember the 5th of novemeber
20:28 < DomLS3> oh
20:28 < MillerBoss> Who is quoting, cryptic1 ?
20:28 < alazare619> and marty went back to the 5th of november
20:28 < felda>  yeah sorry felda.io is in a holding patter right now
20:28 < Hatter> alazare619: you googled that too
20:28 <@cryptic1> felda wtf
20:28 <@cryptic1> BANT!
20:28 < alazare619> no actually i didnt :P
20:28 < alazare619> i watched bttf last night :P
20:28 < alazare619> was on hbo
20:29 < MillerBoss> s/quoting/quiting
20:29 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss] Who is quiting, cryptic1 ?
20:29 < coderphive> i'm mad it says "guests of honor"
20:29 < coderphive> like this is some geocities site
20:29 <@cryptic1> MillerBoss, everyone lately
20:29 < MillerBoss> >Everyone
20:29 < JFDkthx> good riddance imo
20:29 < MillerBoss> More room for the discord users here
20:29 < coderphive> honestly i'm going to release my own cancerous website today
20:29 < MillerBoss> Do it coderphive
20:30 < JFDkthx> coderphive: no balls
20:30 < coderphive> fine. I'm sick, I have time.
20:30 < alazare619> i think its time to permanetly leave this channel
20:30 < alazare619> farewell everyone
20:30 < DomLS3> alazare619: peace out
20:30 < MillerBoss> lol
20:30 < asimon> cya nerd
20:30 < coderphive> bye
20:30  * MillerBoss waves
20:30 < coderphive> "the parting 2018"
20:30 < alazare619> good bye everyone i will miss you all
20:30 < alazare619> except you JFDKthx DIAF
20:30 < DomLS3> we won't miss you
20:30 < MillerBoss> discord has openings
20:30 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, shit, i should ave them for my work phone too shouldn't i
20:30 < Hunterkll> lol
20:31 < Hunterkll> it's an iphone 7
20:31 < coderphive> alazare619 aka the departed
20:31 < ThatOneRoadie> Query
20:31 < ThatOneRoadie> anyone ever seen an A-Key compatible SSD anywhere?
20:31 < ThatOneRoadie> or an adapter
20:31 < asimon> Has anyone used Dell's SupportAssist lately? Mine is telling me there was some hardware issue found on a test computer but it won't tell me what it found
20:31 < felda> DomLS3 self describes his work environment as "on fleek"
20:31 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: if you use your work phone for 2fa shit maybe not
20:31 < Hatter> alazare619: Would you stay if we got rid of DomLS3 and other undesirables?
20:31 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, SMS only
20:31 < Hatter> shucks too late
20:31 < abakedapplepie> some of those basterds detect JB
20:31 < Hunterkll> and it's all tied to my personal too
20:31 < Hunterkll> nah
20:31 < abakedapplepie> o ok
20:31 < Hunterkll> no work shit installed
20:31 < L3gacy> felda: pfSense!
20:31 < Hunterkll> personal icloud account etc
20:31 < Hunterkll> :p
20:31 < abakedapplepie> Duo detects JB
20:31 < MillerBoss> Shots fired!
20:31 < coderphive> felda, I describe my dev environment as "lit fam"
20:31 < DomLS3> felda: I've never used the word "fleek" in my life
20:31 < abakedapplepie> but you can allow JB on your Duo environment
20:31 < abakedapplepie> so at least thats fine
20:32 < JFDkthx> felda: on freec
20:32 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, so does Ingress & Pokemon Go but there's app level request firewalling you can do
20:32 < Hunterkll> to kill the JB detection
20:32 < Hunterkll> :)
20:32 < abakedapplepie> right
20:32 < Hunterkll> i was a mad hacker at pokemon go when it came out and never got bant
20:32 < Hunterkll> :P
20:32 < abakedapplepie> me too
20:32 < Hunterkll> A-KO can testify to this
20:32 < Hunterkll> lol
20:32 < abakedapplepie> i actually found all my old map scripts lol
20:32 < abakedapplepie> cleaning out my old server
20:32 < abakedapplepie> before decomm
20:32 < Hunterkll> where's the itunes backups saved
20:32 < abakedapplepie> hardcoded
20:33 < abakedapplepie> user profile/appdata/apple/backup i think
20:33 < Hunterkll> ok
20:33 < gnupluslinux> Sell out with me oh yeah
20:33 < abakedapplepie> but yeah some people are great at JB detection
20:33 < gnupluslinux> Sell out with me tonight
20:34 < abakedapplepie> adidas's lottery signup app is really hard to get around and is constantly patched
20:34 < abakedapplepie> i managed to get it to run and it still wouldnt work
20:34 < abakedapplepie> it knew my location was fake somehow
20:34 < Hunterkll> lol
20:34 < Hunterkll> \Users\(username)\AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\MobileSync\Backup\
20:34 < abakedapplepie> yeah
20:35 < abakedapplepie> there yuo go
20:35 < narziss> ah. glad this channel exists.
20:35 < abakedapplepie> oh and apparently r/jailbreak has #jailbreak on snoonet, had no idea
20:35 < abakedapplepie> im terrified to go in there though
20:35 < Hunterkll> https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht204215#findiTunes
20:35 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch  - Apple Support
20:35 < abakedapplepie> probably toxic as all fuck and full of 12 year olds
20:36 <@cryptic1> so like here abakedapplepie ?
20:36 < abakedapplepie> basically
20:36 < abakedapplepie> but at least i know these fucks
20:36 < abakedapplepie> i dont want to get to know new fucks
20:36 < abakedapplepie> also lets be real we can all agree we are at least on a functional level of a 14 year old in here
20:37 < flakawaka> no
20:37 < abakedapplepie> obsessed with our penis, etc
20:37 < flakawaka> not even closed
20:37 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: im 2k3 functional level
20:37 < flakawaka> maybe a 13 yr old
20:37 < abakedapplepie> JFDkthx: a true millenial
20:37 < abakedapplepie> twice over, even!
20:38 < narziss> Anyone here using Scalyr?
20:39 < Hunterkll> okay
20:39 < flakawaka> flat earth is real
20:39 < Hunterkll> i've got blobs for my 7
20:39 < MillerBoss> macOS new features starting now https://twit.tv/live-popout/65196
20:39 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  TWiT Live Stream
20:39 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, my 7 is still on 10.3.3 lol
20:39 < Hunterkll> so yea
20:39 < Hunterkll> JB detection aint an issue for me
20:39 < Hunterkll> lol
20:39 < Hatter> MillerBoss: who gives a turkey
20:39 < Hatter> sorry that was rude
20:40 < MillerBoss> Be rude. I welcome it Hatter
20:40 < flakawaka> well we know who the sadist is of the channel now
20:40 < flakawaka> do you like your balls stepped on to MillerBoss ?
20:41 < MillerBoss> Mojave
20:41 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, thx for the heads up, got my blobs and backups now
20:41 < Hunterkll> woulda been boned otherwise
20:41 < JFDkthx> been listening to scambaiting all day
20:41 < abakedapplepie> yessir
20:41 < JFDkthx> makes me feel better about sitting in a chatroom with hatter
20:42 < abakedapplepie> regarding backups
20:42 < abakedapplepie> its best to take your backup immediately before you do your restore
20:42 < abakedapplepie> otherwise you might lose shit
20:42 < abakedapplepie> texts etc
20:42 < Hatter> JFDkthx: you only embarrass yourself with that AOLspeak
20:42 < abakedapplepie> not sure if it will sync missing stuff with icloud or not
20:42 < coderphive> http://theworldsucks.com/
20:42 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  the world sucks
20:42 < Hunterkll> it will
20:42 < coderphive> and so it begins
20:42 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, texts sync between devices too
20:42 < Hunterkll> i have two iOS devices on icloud
20:42 < Hunterkll> on same account
20:42 < JFDkthx> Hatter: dont act like you werent on aol chatrooms
20:42 < abakedapplepie> yeah
20:43 < Hatter> coderphive: yours?
20:43 < Hunterkll> nevermind
20:43 < Hunterkll> i lied
20:43 < Hunterkll> they don't
20:43 < Hunterkll> i was thinking windows phones
20:43 < abakedapplepie> also now tha i fully understand how icloud circle of trust works
20:43 < flakawaka> yahoo chatrooms were better then AOL
20:43 < Hatter> JFDkthx: I never spent one single trial hour on AOL
20:43 < Hunterkll> apple isn't up to that level yet
20:43 < abakedapplepie> im terrified of that shit
20:43 < Hatter> JFDkthx: I was VERY elite back in the day
20:43 < MillerBoss> iCloud Messages Hunterkll
20:43 < abakedapplepie> i realized that if i ever lost my macbook and my phone id be fucked
20:43 < abakedapplepie> and lose everythig
20:43 < coderphive> Hatter, yes
20:43 < JFDkthx> Hatter: so what you paid for aol?
20:43 < flakawaka> got alot of 135KB boob pics back in the day from "chicks" on yahoo chatrooms
20:43 < MillerBoss> Or "Messages in iCloud".
20:44 < abakedapplepie> like its enough to make me want to get an apple mini or something and put it in cold storage lol
20:44 < Hatter> I didn't know we were having an awful webpage contest
20:44 < JFDkthx> flakawaka: i was a kid in an m4m channel and i didnt know what m4m was
20:44 < abakedapplepie> JFDkthx: explains a lot
20:44 < JFDkthx> turned out okay
20:44 < JFDkthx> i think i'vve told that story before in here.
20:44 < flakawaka> JFDkthx:  some how I doubt you didnt know what M4M was...
20:44 < JFDkthx> bruh
20:44 < coderphive> mail4mail
20:44 < abakedapplepie> i bet you were quite popular
20:44 < coderphive> it's where you trade mail with people
20:45 < coderphive> it's a 90's thing, you wouldn't get it
20:45 < flakawaka> "You've got mail genetalia"
20:45 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: of course man, with my im 21 in florida i bench 300 story
20:45 < JFDkthx> i was really popular.
20:45 < abakedapplepie> lol
20:45 < Hatter> JFDkthx: 300 seems high
20:45 < JFDkthx> when in actuality i might have been 10 or 11
20:45 < flakawaka> Where was chris hansen when you needed him JFDkthx
20:45 < abakedapplepie> you probably would have been more popular with the real story
20:46 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: different oodles for different noodles i guess
20:46 < abakedapplepie> hey little jimmy what did you wear to school today
20:46 < ChrisHansen> Have a seat.
20:46 < ChrisHansen> What were you planning on doing with this box of condoms and case of Zima?
20:46 < kronis> What happened to our beloved felda.io?
20:46 < abakedapplepie> zima.. lol
20:46 < JFDkthx> anal beer drinking
20:46 < felda> kronis:  Code_Man65 hacked my website
20:46 < kronis> Rekt
20:47 < flakawaka> being a pubecent teen in the dial up ages was hard
20:47 < abakedapplepie> what a chode
20:47 < kronis> Gotta have it on autorenew
20:47 < flakawaka> like you had to plan your fap time
20:47 < abakedapplepie> indeed
20:47 < flakawaka> have that mpeg downloaded days in advance
20:47 < JFDkthx> flakawaka: you just needed to learn how to download images
20:47 < JFDkthx> yeah
20:47 < flakawaka> just for 30 seconds of vid play
20:47 < abakedapplepie> my ex step brothers used to watch porn together
20:47 < abakedapplepie> super, super odd
20:47 < JFDkthx> spin up kazaa/limewire and download everything you could
20:47 < abakedapplepie> invited me in once and i was just like ..... ..... .... wat
20:47 < kronis> Limewire, then frostwire.
20:47 < MillerBoss> What has cryptic1 come back to?
20:48 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: then you agreed to it
20:48 < JFDkthx> ofc
20:48 < abakedapplepie> i dont know if they jacked it together too
20:48 < Hatter> JFDkthx: I never spent one single trial hour on limewire, my elite status entitled me to 0-day ftp sitez
20:48 < abakedapplepie> rather not know
20:48 < Hunterkll> i'm just gonna update the work phone from 10.3.3 to 11.3.1 because it's not jailbroken yet
20:48 < JFDkthx> Hatter: we were all on newsgroups
20:48 < Hunterkll> lol
20:48 < kronis> Nah, youd rather know
20:48 <@cryptic1> whats up?
20:48 < kronis> Don't lie
20:48 < Hunterkll> actually no i won't
20:48 < flakawaka> abakedapplepie:  you've never watched porn with another man?
20:48 < abakedapplepie> no.
20:48 < Hatter> oh, well I've always downloaded from newsgroups
20:48 <@cryptic1> wtf have I returned to?
20:48 < MillerBoss> ^
20:48 < Hunterkll> because right now it's jailbreakable and upgradable to 11.3.1 and 11.4
20:48 < Hunterkll> so
20:48 < abakedapplepie> at least, not unironically
20:48 < Hunterkll> yea
20:48 < flakawaka> like i use to drink with an old trucker across the street he would tell me stories of lot lizards and stuff
20:48 < JFDkthx> cryptic1: 18:48:31         flakawaka | abakedapplepie:  you've never watched porn with another man?
20:48 < kronis> Cryptic1 pfsense
20:49 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, stop using garbage iphones
20:49 < Hunterkll> what
20:49 < flakawaka> figure up a vid be like pretty sure i seen this broad in tulsa rest stop
20:49 < namol> what, no one used DCC like was the trend in the 90s?
20:49 < Hunterkll> how is an iphone X and iphone 7 garbage iphones
20:49 < Hunterkll> it's not an SElol
20:49 < abakedapplepie> of course we used dcc
20:49 < kronis> ur an iphone
20:49 < Hunterkll> I still run a few fservs on efnet
20:49 < Hunterkll> lol
20:49 < abakedapplepie> you would
20:49 < Hatter> namol: I ran HattaDCC for a while in the popular emulation channels to distribute snes roms to TheBrain and community
20:49 < flakawaka> "look at the cellulite on this one"
20:49 < abakedapplepie> insufferable neckbeard
20:50 < flakawaka> "more like celluheavy" etc dude was like 60 something funny as all hell tho
20:50 < MillerBoss> https://www.meteorshowers.org/
20:50 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Meteor showers from space
20:50 < namol> back in my day we had to dial into BBSes and like it damn it
20:50 < flakawaka> "people use to ask me why i had an 18" black dildo in my truck had to tell them thtas my tire thumper and my grain thumper
20:50 < Hatter> MillerBoss: this might make a cool new dashboard for my rotation
20:51 < MillerBoss> You betchya
20:51 < gnupluslinux> Gurl the way your movin
20:51 < gnupluslinux> Got me in a trance
20:51 < MillerBoss> You can thank me later.
20:51 < flakawaka> lmao
20:51 < flakawaka> "no.no.cox.net"
20:51 < flakawaka> "no, no cox"
20:52 < kronis> Anyone have ATT gigabit at home?
20:52 < DomLS3> felda loves cox
20:53 < DomLS3> take that whatever way you want it
20:53 <@Code_Man65> kronis:  I have AT&T gigabit fiber
20:53 < kronis> Do you like it?
20:53 < flakawaka> DomLS3:  theres only 1 way to take it
20:53 < kronis> Wife and I just put an offer to a house here in DFW and the first thing I checked was internet providers, lol.
20:53 < DomLS3> flakawaka: and that's the way I mean it
20:53 <@Code_Man65> It's great, I download ISO's from MSDN at 60+ megabytes a second
20:53 < kronis> God damn son
20:54 < flakawaka> Code_Man65: i have another gigabit provider and i get clear as day 60-70MB/s
20:54 < kronis> Does the internet come into the garage?
20:54 < flakawaka> consistent not AT&T
20:54 < kronis> I mean, is their demarc installed in the garage.
20:54 <@Code_Man65> No Kronis, it comes into the closet where my rack and wiring are
20:55 < kronis> Okay, that was what I was wanting to do too
20:55 <@Code_Man65> But it depends on where the pedastal is
20:55 < MillerBoss> S T A T E  O F  T H E  A R T
20:55 < kronis> I wanted to do a Ubiquiti setup. Maybe not a full rack but ya know.
20:55 <@Code_Man65> I have a full Ubiquiti setup
20:55 <@Code_Man65> It's nice
20:55 < kronis> Pics?
20:56 < kronis> Or can you PM me details
20:56 < kronis> I'm really hoping they accept our offer, tbh.
20:56 < MillerBoss> Out with Windows 10 in with macOS Mojave for all users guyz
20:56 < flakawaka> https://the-eye.eu/public/MSDN/ for anyone needing a MSDN mirror ;)
20:56 <+layer-eight> * flakawaka →  The Eye | File Listing
20:56 < kronis> The dude has some stuff on github, I'm such a stalker.
20:56 <@Code_Man65> I've got the 24 port POE switch, the cloud key, 2 AC-Pro's, and the USG
20:57 < MillerBoss> Also https://www.google.com/search?q=archive.org+msdn
20:57 < abakedapplepie> i wish ubnt would come out with a full IP phone solution
20:57 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  archive.org msdn - Google Search
20:57 < abakedapplepie> including PBX
20:57 < abakedapplepie> theyve revolutionized just about everything else
20:58 < abakedapplepie> put in some ubnt dome cameras last week
20:58 < kronis> Also this fucking dude in the stall next to me is snoring
20:58 < kronis> What the actual fuck
20:58 <@ravioli> Hunterkll: after much data wrangling, i've got all the "a" records in a 2-column document of about 3500 pages. in the format "<domain>\n\t<address1>\n\t<address2>". with subdomains consolidated into just domains.
20:58 < coderphive> http://theworldsucks.com/
20:58 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  the world sucks
20:59 < Hunterkll> ravioli, that's cool but relatively useless?
20:59 < Hunterkll> the A records are just the IPs of the nameservers each domain is hosted on
20:59 < Hunterkll> the subdomains are kinda irrelevent
21:00 <@ravioli> ...oh.
21:00 < Hunterkll> they're just the authortiative nameservers
21:00 < Hunterkll> and you need those host records to resolve the NS records
21:00 < Hunterkll> but that's about it
21:00 < MillerBoss> So pretty coderphive
21:00 < MillerBoss> So new Mac App Store app. Bout time.
21:01 < flakawaka> newegg business sent me a 50 dollar hello fresh gift card
21:01 < flakawaka> noice
21:01 < abakedapplepie> p sure those are shitty ads
21:01 < abakedapplepie> like you get $50 credit after spending $100
21:01 < abakedapplepie> i get shit like that all the time from newegg
21:01 < flakawaka> mine says 50 dollar gift card thats it
21:01 < abakedapplepie> huh.
21:01 < flakawaka> no required spending minimum
21:01 <@ravioli> Hunterkll: so if i wanted to print a phone book, what's the relationship i'm looking for?
21:02 < flakawaka> offer expires in 30 days tho
21:02 < abakedapplepie> i would venture a guess that you cant get shit for $50 from hello fresh then
21:02 < Hunterkll> uhm
21:02 < Hunterkll> ravioli, you know how dns recursion works, right?
21:02 < abakedapplepie> whats recursion
21:02 < Hunterkll> you have the master phone book already
21:03 < Hunterkll> I tell my DNS server "hey, where is fuckyou.blah.com"  - my DNS server then asks up the chain "where is fuckyou.blah.com" - and then that DNS server goes "hey, root, where is blah.com"
21:03 < Hunterkll> root says
21:03 < abakedapplepie> just write a tcl script that generates every alphanumeric string for x length and then  pipe it to ping
21:03 < abakedapplepie> :v
21:03 < Hunterkll> "DNS server below me, blah.com is hosted on the nameserver ns1.blah.com which is IP 127.0.0.1"
21:03 < Hunterkll> that nameserver below root then asks ns1.blah.com where fuckyou.blah.com is
21:03 < Hunterkll> which is then returned down the chain
21:04 < Hunterkll> ravioli, so, in reality, if you just want a list of registered domains, filter out everything but NS records
21:04 <@JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: figured out how to get the version number...
21:04 <@JollyRgrs> mess of a code
21:04 < Hunterkll> the nameservers listed there are authoritative for the domains
21:04 <@ravioli> so use A records?
21:04 < Hunterkll> no...
21:04 < Hunterkll> the A records are literally /just/ the nameservers
21:04 <@JollyRgrs> now i gotta figure out how to use it... lol
21:04 <@ravioli> dns is a magical black box that confuses and infuriates me
21:04 < Hunterkll> 500000 domains could share the same nameserver
21:04 <@JollyRgrs> also... split_string is a function in sql 2016... which we have... but we have to run on functional level 2012 :(
21:05 < Hunterkll> lol
21:05 < Hunterkll> ravioli, basically, the root DNS zone does NOT know anything other than what nameservers host which blah.net
21:05 <@ravioli> to be clear - i'm looking for something like "example.com: 127.0.0.1"
21:05 <@ravioli> ah.
21:05 < Hunterkll> so blah.net is NOT known by the root zone
21:05 <@ravioli> aaaaah
21:05 <@ravioli> it just knows where to look
21:05 < Hunterkll> it just knows which DNS servers are authoritative for blah.net
21:05 <@ravioli> which are those other nameservers
21:06 <@ravioli> ok
21:06 < Hunterkll> so then you go to those nameservers and say "what is blah.net"
21:06 < Hunterkll> and that's how you get the result
21:06 <@ravioli> damn
21:06 < pcspkr> bro do you even dns
21:06 < abakedapplepie> it also helps to understand how a full domain name works
21:06 <@ravioli> no i have my workstations use host files exclusively
21:07 < abakedapplepie> com. is a domain
21:07 <@ravioli> on the recommendation of felda
21:07 < Hunterkll> ravioli, if you wanted, just filter out all A records
21:07 < Hunterkll> so you only have the NS records
21:07 < abakedapplepie> test.com is a subdomain of com
21:07 < abakedapplepie> etc
21:07 < Hunterkll> then resolve each record against the nameservers listed
21:07 < abakedapplepie> even . is a domain
21:07 < abakedapplepie> sort of
21:07 < Hunterkll> not really
21:07 < Hunterkll> anyway
21:07 < abakedapplepie> . just means its up to the root dns servers
21:08 <@ravioli> i have a feeling nslookup for the entire .net would take a while
21:08 < flakawaka> uhh
21:08 < flakawaka> this hello fresh is like 50 bucks a week if you only have 2 people
21:08 < flakawaka> thtas 200 a month for food
21:08 < abakedapplepie> yep
21:08 < abakedapplepie> like i said, theres a reason they sent you that
21:08 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:08 < flakawaka> thats cheap
21:08 < Hatter> flakawaka: url
21:09 < abakedapplepie> oh a week
21:09 < abakedapplepie> i thought you said a day
21:09 < flakawaka> https://www.hellofresh.com/plans?redirectedFromAccountArea=true
21:09 <+layer-eight> * flakawaka →  HelloFresh
21:09 < Hatter> flakawaka: no advertising
21:09 < flakawaka> unfortunately theres 5 in my family
21:09 < flakawaka> so doesnt work for me
21:10 < abakedapplepie> ive considered trying it
21:10 < abakedapplepie> maybe i should
21:10 < mal_will> hello fresh is only one meal though, no?
21:10 < abakedapplepie> we just eat out constantly
21:10 < abakedapplepie> mal_will: $10/meal for 2
21:10 < flakawaka> its cheaper then eating out
21:10 < flakawaka> and healthier
21:10 < abakedapplepie> exactly
21:10 < mal_will> Maybe for lunch or dinner
21:11 < Hunterkll> hm
21:11 < mal_will> but wereal and breakfast foods are mega cheap
21:11 < Hunterkll> if coolstar is updating i suppose i should
21:11 < mal_will> cereal*
21:11 < flakawaka> abakedapplepie:  the worst part about a healthy proper dinner is figuring out what you are going to eat
21:11 < abakedapplepie> coolstar is the guy that will be releasing the jailbreak once ian releases the kernel exploit
21:11 < flakawaka> with this you dont even have to think
21:11 < SpookyCrisp> flakawaka, Just eat your lawn.
21:11 < abakedapplepie> coolstar already announced he would have it ready
21:11 < flakawaka> its deliverd to you and you just cook it
21:11 < flakawaka> SpookyCrisp: i prefer eating carpet
21:11 < abakedapplepie> he/she since apparently its a thing to speculate on coolstar's gender now
21:12 < mal_will> I mean, eating out, you're paying for convenience. But cooking in, you can make your food way way cheaper than hello fresh
21:12 < Alternity> thats like blue apron right
21:12 < abakedapplepie> mal_will: only to an extent
21:12 < Alternity> i looked at them, seem like a decent idea, but price is still high
21:12 < Alternity> i do meal prep sundays
21:12 < komugi> Are people exiting GitHub just because MS bought it?
21:12 < komugi> that's pretty funny
21:12 < Alternity> make week worth of food at once, usually <$2 per meal
21:12 < abakedapplepie> $10 for 2 people to eat a meal is about what i spend on groceries when i cook
21:12 < mal_will> Nah, I can make way cheaper food if I make it myself and don't pay more to support shipping, and staff
21:12 < vavkamil> I wish MS bought reddit as well :D
21:13 < Alternity> abakedapplepie: look at moneybags over here
21:13 < mal_will> I can easily get below 5 bucks for 2 people, and probably have leftovers
21:13 < abakedapplepie> like tacos
21:13 < komugi> I tried Blue Apron
21:13 < Alternity> eating lobster at every meal
21:13 < komugi> it's actually pretty nice
21:13 < kronis> I was leaving the bathroom stall and the cleaning lady opened the door and yelled "housekeeping"
21:13 < komugi> because they give you a lot of exotic ingredients/sauces that you normally wouldn't eat if it's not already part of your diet
21:13 < flakawaka> abakedapplepie:  my biggest issue is planning out what to eat
21:13 < abakedapplepie> 1 lb beef - $5, head opf lettuce $2, olives $2, sour cream $3, tortillas $2, other toppings as needed - $2-$5
21:13 < abakedapplepie> $25 for tacos
21:13 < kronis> You could clearly tell the dude asleep on the john woke up.
21:13 < Alternity> https://www.reddit.com/r/MealPrepSunday/
21:13 <+layer-eight> * Alternity →  Meal Prep Sunday
21:13 < Alternity> plenty of suggestions
21:14 < mal_will> https://www.shape.com/healthy-eating/diet-tips/i-survived-5-groceries-day-nyc%E2%80%94and-didnt-starve
21:14 <+layer-eight> * mal_will →  Eating Healthy on a Budget: Surviving on $5 of Groceries a Day | Shape Magazine
21:14 < abakedapplepie> and i know you get leftovers, but its typically not much and half the time leftovers go to waste anyway
21:14 < Alternity> i used to eat out for lunch at work, but i don't think i have now for about a month or so
21:14 < abakedapplepie> i eat out for lunch every day :
21:14 < Alternity> saves a lot of money.  cook on sunday and have lunches for all week
21:14 < abakedapplepie> cant help it
21:14 < abakedapplepie> so much good food
21:14 < Alternity> i mean you could help it xD
21:14 < Alternity> but ya its nice for sure
21:15 < kronis> I eat at our cafe
21:15 < abakedapplepie> like i can bring food to eat, but its cumbersome and not that tasty usually
21:15 < kronis> But with getting a house, that's gonna need to change.
21:15 < abakedapplepie> sandwiches are boring
21:15 < mal_will> I eat out only because I don't want to cook
21:15 < abakedapplepie> youre making me hungry
21:15 < flakawaka> mal_will: i call bullshit
21:15 < abakedapplepie> what should i eat
21:15 < kronis> I just hate cleaning dishes
21:15 < mal_will> I pay for the luxurious convenience, most of the time is worse than my own cooking
21:15 < Alternity> i mean, isn't that why most people eat out mal_will
21:15 < flakawaka> you cant  go cheaper then 01 bucks for 2 people
21:15 < mal_will> Yeah Alternity
21:15 < flakawaka> 10*
21:15 < Alternity> flakawaka: uh ofc you can
21:15 < abakedapplepie> flakawaka: sure you can
21:15 < mal_will> so like, why would I want to cook this box food
21:16 < flakawaka> no way
21:16 < Alternity> you can eat <$1 per person
21:16 < abakedapplepie> buy 10 lbs of rice for $2
21:16 < Alternity> easily...
21:16 < abakedapplepie> youll eat for months
21:16 < kronis> Lmfao
21:16 < mal_will> flakawaka: https://www.shape.com/healthy-eating/diet-tips/i-survived-5-groceries-day-nyc%E2%80%94and-didnt-starve
21:16 <+layer-eight> * mal_will →  Eating Healthy on a Budget: Surviving on $5 of Groceries a Day | Shape Magazine
21:16 < mal_will> srs the person who wrote this has good food
21:16 < kronis> Weight loss program
21:16 < flakawaka> no like for instance lets just throw this out here i'm going to say hamburger helper
21:16 < flakawaka> no way you are doing hamburger helper for cheaper then 10 bucks
21:16 < flakawaka> for 2 people
21:16 < flakawaka> there will be TONS of left overs but a lb of hamburger on the cheap is 3 dollars
21:17 < flakawaka> the pasta you are looking at 2 dollars
21:17 < ebol4> $5/day is easy mode for one person
21:17 < mal_will> ebol4: knows his shit here
21:17 < abakedapplepie> i spend like $20 a day on food
21:17 < flakawaka> the cheese you are looking at like 4-5 dollars
21:17 < abakedapplepie> its terrible
21:17 < flakawaka> right there you are at 10 bucks
21:17 < abakedapplepie> terribly delicious and fattening
21:17 < mal_will> with leftovers
21:17 < Alternity> just eat ramn for every meal
21:17 < Alternity> thats like 20 cents a meal :D
21:17 < mal_will> flakawaka: if there's leftovers, you fed more than 2 people
21:17 < abakedapplepie> just eat rice, like i said
21:17 < abakedapplepie> $0.0001 per meal
21:17 < flakawaka> yes but the fact remains
21:18 < abakedapplepie> :P
21:18 < Alternity> half the planet lives on rice and beans
21:18 < flakawaka> you cant do less then 10 dollars a meal
21:18 < mal_will> That you fed two people for under 10 bucks
21:18 < flakawaka> you cant buy less then a 1lb of hamburger meat
21:18 < mal_will> That's 4 meals
21:18 < mal_will> minimum
21:18 < Hunterkll> fukit
21:18 < Hunterkll> taking a chance
21:18 < gnupluslinux> Do yall not know how to eat well on the cheap? I can make a pretty decent diner for 5 on like 10 bucks
21:18 < abakedapplepie> gnupluslinux: we are millenials, so no we cant do anything right
21:18 < gnupluslinux> Literally 2 bucks a person for one meal with splurging and meat and shit
21:18 < flakawaka> i'm stating if you have 0 groceries EVER
21:18 < abakedapplepie> cant even buy tgi fridays right
21:18 < DomLS3> freerice.com
21:19 < rpgio> speak for yo' self
21:19 < flakawaka> you have to always spend no less then 10 dollars for a meal
21:19 < Alternity> i love my instant pot.  throw some meat, veggies, spices, potatoes in there.  let it cook half an hour, you got stew for days baby
21:19 < khelpw> gnupluslinux: does that factor in the cost of your time, though?
21:19 < ebol4> what the heck is tgi fridays anway
21:19 < gnupluslinux> Yeah but who wantsto buy tgi
21:19 < abakedapplepie> an awful restaurant
21:19 < flakawaka> so lets figure out the cost of a stove cooking water refridgerator etc
21:19 < abakedapplepie> you cant get meat for 2 people for $2
21:19 < abakedapplepie> let alone meat + everything else
21:19 < gnupluslinux> khelpw i dont factor that when cooking for myself/family/friends
21:19 < flakawaka> if you removed the refridgerator out of the equation would hello fresh be reasonable?
21:19 < khelpw> Well yeah, if you don't factor the chefs hourly wages in, eating out is cheap too
21:20 < abakedapplepie> unless you enjoy tasteless grey ground beef or plain chicken breast
21:20 < ebol4> buy a spice
21:20 < khelpw> If it takes you 3 hours of work, and your time is worth $30/hr, that's $90 added to the cost of that meal
21:20 < mal_will> lol
21:20 < abakedapplepie> not to mention lost opportunities
21:20 < gnupluslinux> abakedapplepie a pound of round is like what? 3? 4? Rest is vege, broth, and  carbs
21:20 < abakedapplepie> if you wanted to fix the garage during that time, or design a website, or mow the lawn
21:20 < abakedapplepie> youd have to hire someone else
21:20 < abakedapplepie> so you could cook
21:20 < gnupluslinux> Not like everyone gets a lot but its there
21:21 < abakedapplepie> big $$$
21:21 < ebol4> just sleep less
21:21 < khelpw> I'm not trying to suggest eating well for not much money can't be done
21:21 < vavkamil> crowdsourced cooking
21:21 < abakedapplepie> we should employ community cooks and eat on a rotating schedule
21:21 < ebol4> yeah let's start a commune
21:21 < abakedapplepie> street A gets dinner between 5-6pm
21:21 < abakedapplepie> street b 6-7pm
21:21 < abakedapplepie> etc
21:21 < khelpw> but there are other costs involved besides monetary ones and a big reason why I might opt to just eat out a couple nights a week vs cooking dinner for the week is simply the available number of hours in a day, especially weekends seems to be consistently 4 or 5 fewer than necessary
21:22 < abakedapplepie> did you guys see the egypt ramadan community feast picture that cropped up this week
21:22 < abakedapplepie> i would love to experience that
21:22 < flakawaka> eating cheap healthy and fast is not something that can be done...its like that saying fuck one marry one kill one
21:22 < abakedapplepie> looked so cool
21:22 < abakedapplepie> blah blah good/cheap/fast pick 2
21:23 < misinformed> cheap, health and fast ... avocado toast??
21:23 < ebol4> you are misinformed
21:23 < abakedapplepie> avo isnt cheap
21:23 < misinformed> depends where you live
21:23 < flakawaka> i dont understand ramadan
21:23 < flakawaka> like they go an entire month without eating/drinking?
21:23 < abakedapplepie> also you cant make avocado toast with wonder bread you clearly have to get artisan stoneground partially shucked whole grain focaccia imported from tanzania
21:23 < ebol4> flakawaka: while the sun is up
21:24 < abakedapplepie> ^
21:24 < flakawaka> so they can eat/drink at night?
21:24 < abakedapplepie> yes
21:24 < flakawaka> and have impure thoughts then
21:24 < ebol4> that is my understanding
21:24 < abakedapplepie> and every night is a party
21:24 < flakawaka> i.e. fap
21:24 <@killdash9> move to South Pole during Ramadan. Sun never rises, eat anytime you want. Brilliant!
21:24 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:24 < ebol4> you thinking about converting now flakawaka
21:24 < flakawaka> theres your daily lifehack brought to you by killdash9
21:25 < ebol4> which religion is ramadan
21:25 < abakedapplepie> https://i.redd.it/hcb6yd67lh111.jpg found the picture
21:25 <+layer-eight> * abakedapplepie →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 179,323 bytes
21:25 < abakedapplepie> islam
21:26 < ebol4> figured
21:26 < abakedapplepie> like, that just looks like fun
21:26 < abakedapplepie> i want to experience that
21:26 < abakedapplepie> but no alcohol is a deal breaker
21:26 < Alternity> local grocery has $2/lb chicken sales occasionally, when they do I buy 10lb and freeze most of it
21:26 < Hunterkll> lol damn
21:26 < AlaAkhbar> I like goats
21:26 < Hunterkll> can amazon sellers even do this kind of bribery?
21:27 < abakedapplepie> amazon sellers do all kinds of shady shit
21:27 < Hunterkll> "And for every 5 star rating left on our amazon.com page store we will automatically send you out a free table top tripod, screen protector, and lens cleaning kit, within 48 hours after the feedback has been posted."
21:27 < Hunterkll> i mean
21:27 < Hunterkll> everything was perfect sure
21:27 < Hunterkll> but i never levae amazon feedback
21:27 < Hunterkll> this time i iwll
21:27 < Hunterkll> lol
21:27 <@killdash9> and once it arrives go edit your review. 1-Star: Not enough free swag
21:28 < AlaAkhbar> anyone got a vacuum sealer?
21:31 < asimon> Is there ever a reason NOT to encrypt data, either at rest or in transit
21:31 < asimon> aside from resources required to do so
21:32 < abakedapplepie> if your endpoints dont have the processing power to do so
21:32 < abakedapplepie> which, lets be real, its 2018
21:32 < abakedapplepie> thats not a valid excuse
21:32 < ebol4> if you are unable to access the data you need because it's encrypted
21:33 < Hunterkll> asimon, compatibility/simplicity
21:34 < genr8_> do any of the DOD or compliance standards specify that you are NOT to encrypt things, and only use plaintext ?
21:34 < Cronus> encrypt all the things
21:34 < Hunterkll> genr8_, actually, there's a few gaps in there which is hilarious
21:35 < Hunterkll> asimon, oh, internal-only network traffic (taht's validated other ways)
21:35 < Hunterkll> such as SCCM client traffic to your internal MP/DPs
21:35 < gnupluslinux> Dont encrypt your ssn if its to your doctor on the 4th of august between 0800 and 0801
21:35 < genr8_> i encrypted my most important stuff once and lost the key
21:35 <@Code_Man65> We actually moved SCCM to https only comms
21:36 < asimon> genr8_: Well that's not a reason to willingly be unsecured
21:36 < Hunterkll> Code_Man65, I have domains without a CA
21:36 <@Code_Man65> Ugh
21:36 < Hunterkll> Code_Man65, and, acquiring company *wink wink* ran non-https internally too
21:36 < gnupluslinux> I run everything unencrypted
21:36 < Hunterkll> opportunistic actually
21:36 < Hunterkll> if it has a cert on the machine it'll PKI
21:37 < genr8_> ill think about it
21:37  * asimon uses rot-13 for his encryption
21:38  * gnupluslinux uses quadranery bits
21:39 < Hatter> asimon: yby nfvzba lbh fhpxf
21:40 < asimon> Hatter: you what
21:40 < asimon> Monday is a sacred day there will be no insults today
21:41 < Hunterkll> lol
21:41 < technickel> wot in tarnation
21:41 < Hunterkll> OHHH
21:41 < DomLS3> Code_Man65: do you even code?
21:41 < Hunterkll> THIS SO EXCITIN
21:41 < Hunterkll> time to test my camera
21:41 < Hunterkll> and my developijn'
21:41 < Hunterkll> developin'
21:41 < technickel> developers developers developers developers
21:42 < Hunterkll> wrong kind of developin'
21:42 < Hunterkll> more like i gots to mix some Kodak D-76 developer and kodak fixer & hypowash
21:42 < Hunterkll> and stop bath
21:42 < vavkamil> was that the ballmers dance?
21:43 < gnupluslinux> I gotta find a present for a camera hobby guy
21:44  * gnupluslinux goes off to buy film
21:46 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, make sure he has a film camera first
21:46 < Hunterkll> gnupluslinux, then buy him some weird film
21:46 < Hunterkll> i have some reccomendations like old soviet or czech stuff that's fun to play with
21:46 < gnupluslinux> Hunterkll i kid
21:46 < Hunterkll> wow
21:46 < gnupluslinux> I do need to get him something though
21:46 < Hunterkll> iphone got priorities
21:46 < Hunterkll> apps being restored
21:46 < Hunterkll> Tinder and Uber were the first ones finished
21:47 < Hunterkll> and my bank app
21:47 < coderphive> Tinder
21:47 < coderphive> lmao
21:47 < coderphive> Where do you live Hunterkll?
21:47 < Hunterkll> so it wants me to hook up, get me there, and know how much money i have
21:48 < Hunterkll> east coast
21:48 < Hunterkll> lol
21:48 < Hunterkll> I need rail access to washington DC for work
21:48 < Hunterkll> so
21:48 < dragonfleas> Anybody in here wanna do some contract cisco networking work for me?
21:48 < coderphive> o
21:48 < Hunterkll> i've had to go there on a moments notice for shit
21:48 < coderphive> so you hit tinder up for that?
21:48 < Hunterkll> it's called boredom
21:48 < Hunterkll> :D
21:48 < coderphive> "hey bae, wanna drive me to work today"
21:48 < dragonfleas> My boss told me to find someone to do some network work for us
21:48 < coderphive> "i got memez"
21:48 < Hunterkll> nah
21:48 < Hunterkll> rail station's only like 6-7 miles away
21:48 < Hunterkll> uber works fine
21:49 < coderphive> You should get an electric unicycle
21:49 < coderphive> like $600
21:52 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: https://www.urb-e.com/
21:52 <+layer-eight> * Sousapro →  URB-E Foldable Electric Vehicle
21:52 < Sousapro> I really like those
21:52 < Hunterkll> okay?
21:52 <@ravioli> Hunterkll: 14054728
21:52 <@ravioli> domains
21:52 <@ravioli> lol
21:52 < Sousapro> good compromise between speed, weight, and form factor when you're lugging it around
21:53 < Sousapro> just figure price of ubers would easily add up to more than that over a year or two
21:53 < Sousapro> s/just/I just
21:53 <+layer-eight> [SED Sousapro] I just figure price of ubers would easily add up to more than that over a year or two
21:53 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, yea, but see, my usual uber route is home -> rail and rail -> back maybe once every 3 months
21:53 < Hunterkll> and/or home->rail->airport
21:53 < Hunterkll> then airport->home
21:53 < Sousapro> ah
21:53 < Sousapro> nvm
21:54 < Hunterkll> and i dobt those are flying friendly
21:54 < Sousapro> misunderstood :)
21:54 < Sousapro> lmao, I doubt it
21:54 < Hunterkll> last month i flew out 3 times
21:54 < Hunterkll> lol
21:54 < Sousapro> I feel like a AA battery is barely flight friendly
21:54 < Hunterkll> Los Angeles, Lake Tahoe, and Chicago
21:55 < Hunterkll> this month i'm only doing two trips
21:55 < Hunterkll> Atantic City by rail next weekend, and Laughlin Nevada by air
21:55 < khelpw> Last time I flew, I must have had easy, 20,000mAh of batteries with me lol
21:55 < Hunterkll> casino's flying me out on their charter airline for that
21:55 < Hunterkll> lol
21:55 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: acid and shrroms?
21:55 < Hunterkll> July I actually only have one trip scheduled right now
21:55 < Hunterkll> i might go to reno if there's any seats left on this air offer i have though
21:55 < Hunterkll> but that's also to LA
21:55 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: lmao about the casinos
21:55 < Sousapro> Hunterkll: do they actually make any money off of you?
21:55 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, Lake Tahoe and Laughlin are both all paid trips
21:55 < Hunterkll> fuck no
21:56 < Sousapro> that's what I thought lol
21:56 < Hunterkll> last year my P&L from caeasrs says i won like $16k
21:56 < Hunterkll> between december and january i built an $8k gaming rig
21:56 < Hunterkll> lmao
21:56 < Sousapro> that sounded like a killer trip
21:56 < Hunterkll> eh
21:56 < Hunterkll> I only won $1170 in lake tahoe
21:56 < DomLS3> Hunterkll: 16k playing what?
21:56 < Sousapro> you ended up in mexico randomly
21:56 < Hunterkll> roulette
21:56 < Hunterkll> Sousapro, oh yea that was only about $8-9k in winnings, but i had about $11k in cash total
21:56 < Hunterkll> and we intentionally went to mexico with $1500 to bang some mexican hookers
21:57 < Sousapro> how'd that go?
21:57 < Sousapro> LOL
21:57 < Hunterkll> A-KO got a girlfriend now so i don't think that'll happen again :'(*
21:57 < Sousapro> woah
21:57 < DomLS3> Sousapro: he came back with more than he went with
21:57 < Sousapro> that's not allowed
21:57 < Hunterkll> IKR
21:57 < Hunterkll> we'll see what happens by defcon this year
21:57 < Hunterkll> again
21:57 < Hunterkll> lol
21:58 < Hunterkll> I am trying to drag his ass to iceland for new years though
21:58 < Hatter> Hunterkll: you've just implicated A-KO for soliciting prostitution
21:58 < Hunterkll> Hatter, it was legal there
21:58 < Hunterkll> so
21:58 < Hatter> yeah but does he want you telling everyone that
21:58 < Hunterkll> he's been here when i've todl the story beofre
21:58 < Hunterkll> lol
21:58 < Hatter> how where they
21:58 < Hunterkll> he went back for seconds, actually
21:59 < Hunterkll> Hatter, it was mexico, what the hell do you think
21:59 < Hunterkll> awsome
21:59 < Hunterkll> lol
21:59 < DomLS3> were they real deal hookers or just some street rats?
21:59 < Hunterkll> hell of a club he knew about
21:59 < vavkamil> Hunterkll, are you going to defcon?
21:59 < Hatter> a-ko? he seems so mild mannered
21:59 < Hunterkll> i liked the ones sliding around on that mirror table with poles on it
21:59 < DomLS3> Hatter: Hunterkll bangs his cousin
21:59 < Hunterkll> covered in shaving cream
22:00 < Hatter> yeah those are nice so long as they aren't leaving a trail of slug juice
22:00 < DomLS3> in case you didn't know
22:00 < Hunterkll> you could stick a dollar on them then fuck 'em with a dildo
22:00 < Hunterkll> while they're sliding around and shit
22:00 < DomLS3> his FIRST cousin
22:00 < Hunterkll> ^ its true
22:00 < Hunterkll> it happened
22:00 < Hatter> that's pretty popular in muslim culture
22:00 < Hatter> very high levels of incest
22:00 < DomLS3> you guys are going to get +m again
22:00 < Hunterkll> lol
22:01 < DomLS3> and I'm going to get nixed again. Lets change this topic lol
22:01 < Hunterkll> :D
22:01 < Hunterkll> your fault
22:01 < Hunterkll> you escalated it
22:01 <@ravioli> what in the fuck
22:01 < Hunterkll> lol
22:01 < DomLS3> no I mentioned your shitty banging habits
22:01 < DomLS3> Hatter escalated it
22:01 <@ravioli> ok
22:02 < Hunterkll> lol
22:02 < ebol4> yes please do not undo it this time
22:03 < ebol4> ebol new king of quiet town
22:03 < vinrock> scrollback time!
22:03 < vinrock> oh
22:03 < vinrock> that again
22:04 < DomLS3> oof
22:04 < ebol4> cast back into the street like a lowly laborer
22:05 < Hatter> I can't believe the injustice
22:05 < Hatter> ravioli seems a bit touchy on the subject, I would have guessed he were italian
22:05 <@Code_Man65> Hatter:  Do you need to see the violence inherent in the system?
22:08 < felda> thanks ravioli
22:08 < felda> oh wait
22:08 < felda> why are you going back on it
22:08 < Hunterkll> cock
22:08 < felda> !g how to unthank someone
22:08 < Hunterkll> LOL
22:08 < Hunterkll> !g how to felda someone
22:09 <@Code_Man65> That's simple Hunterkll, you felda felda by saying pfsense
22:09 < Hunterkll> anyway goddamnit ravioli parallelize your shit
22:09 < MillerBoss> `
22:09 <+layer-eight> MillerBoss, Quoi de neuf?
22:10 < DomLS3> pfsense
22:10 < DomLS3> pfsense
22:10 < Hunterkll> ravioli, even better, cut the list into 8 parts and run the resolver script against each 8 parts in parallel
22:10 < Hunterkll> that's the shitty cheap way to do it
22:10 < Hunterkll> :D
22:11 < Hatter> please don't abuse me when I'm not paying attention
22:12 <@Code_Man65> You did not respond, that indicated yes
22:12 < Hatter> oh I assumed that was rhetorical
22:12 < Hatter> I wasn't about to play out the rest of the Python bit with you
22:12 < Heresiarch> Hatter: when else should we abuse you?
22:13 <@Code_Man65> That's fine, my plan was to kick you 5 times in a row if you said yes :P
22:13 < Hatter> perhaps we can schedule a time
22:13 < Hatter> I'm booked for the rest of the dayu
22:16 < Hatter> what's the best way to get a list of permissions for a folder and every subfolder?
22:16 < Hatter> probably some powershell line I expect
22:20 <@Code_Man65> Hatter:  Install the NTFSSecurity module
22:21 <@Code_Man65> Gives you commands that make that a lot easier
22:21 < Hatter> I'll try
22:21 <@Code_Man65> Get-NTFSAccess being what you will need
22:22 <@Code_Man65> Get-Childitem <path> | get-ntfsaccess
22:25 < vavkamil> powershell is cool
22:25 < vavkamil> can you write plugins for outlook with it?
22:31 < asimon> vavkamil: I don't think so - it's not really that kind of language.
22:35 < asimon> Til tomorrow friends
22:44 < ebol4> detroit become human is so dumb
22:44 < ebol4> just don't give the labor machines emotions
22:44 < ebol4> why would you give a tractor the ability to feel
22:44 <@Code_Man65> Dad of War was freaking awesome, I have one valk left to fight
22:46 < abakedapplepie> the whole premise is that the AIs feeling emotion and some sort of human experience is a bug/not supposed to be happening
22:47 < abakedapplepie> i like detroit become human but mostly because it looks amazing
22:47 < abakedapplepie> gameplay itself is just okay but it does kind of have its own unique take
22:52 < MillerBoss> https://natfriedman.github.io/hello/
22:52 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  👋 Hello, GitHub | @natfriedman
22:52 < Hatter> what a sellout
22:53 < abakedapplepie> uhhhhh what the hell
22:53 < abakedapplepie> i just joined a server to my domain
22:53 < abakedapplepie> it did not ask me for domain admin
22:53 < abakedapplepie> ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
22:53 < abakedapplepie> it just joined
22:53 < abakedapplepie> wtf
22:53 < abakedapplepie> this makes no sense and also seems broken
22:54 < abakedapplepie> oh nevermind im an idiot
22:54 < abakedapplepie> i just joined the domain.local workgroup
22:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> later haters
22:54 < MillerBoss> Yup ^
22:54 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:54 < abakedapplepie> god damit
22:54 < MillerBoss> oh nevermind im an idiot
22:54 < abakedapplepie> is it friday
22:54 < MillerBoss> THEY SKY IS FALLLLLING
22:54 < MillerBoss> :P
22:54 < abakedapplepie> workgroups shouldnt support decimals
22:55 < genr8_> no
22:55 < abakedapplepie> or at least give me an idiot check. have clippy pop up, "looks like youre trying to join a domain!"
22:55 < MillerBoss> https://developer.apple.com/macos/whats-new/
22:55 < genr8_> rip opencl
22:56 < dragonfleas> Is the 5506-x firewall decent?
22:56 < genr8_> Deprecation of OpenGL and OpenCL :nl:
22:56 < dragonfleas> abakedapplepie, lmao you joined a workgroup WITHOUT WORKGROUP ADMIN?
22:56 < abakedapplepie> another new network framework
22:56 < abakedapplepie> does that mean we have another new way to flush dns
22:56 < abakedapplepie> :|
22:57 < dragonfleas> yeah
22:57 < dragonfleas> ipconfig /flushdns
22:57 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: nah, no checks on that weeds out the fakers from teh real sysadmins :P
22:57 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: the 5506-x is good for what it does. What's your use-case?
22:57 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:58 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdXI5lR4qvM
22:58 < abakedapplepie> thats honestly a first for me
22:58 <+layer-eight> * Hatter →  YouTube → Pet Shop Boys - It's a Sin (LP vinyl) → ⚘ 431,969 ↑ 2,517 ↓ 70 ✍ 167
22:58 < dragonfleas> admiralspark, need a firewall that does firewall stuff, and can set up a site-to-site vpn tunnel and won't ever crash and i won't ever have to touch for 10 years
22:58 < abakedapplepie> #justfirewallthings
22:58 <@cryptic1> pet shop boys wow theres a name i have not heard i a long time
22:58 < MillerBoss> genr8_: >When a deprecation occurs, it’s not an immediate end of life for the specified API. Instead, it is the beginning of a grace period for transitioning from that API and to newer and more modern replacements.
22:58 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: you had me until 10 years, christ man schedule some equipment rotation :P
22:58 < abakedapplepie> cryptic1: getting the band back together?
22:58 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: whats your bandwidth requirements in-tunnel and out?
22:58 < Hatter> cryptic1: it's a good tune
22:58 <@cryptic1> abakedapplepie, lol
22:59 < dragonfleas> admiralspark, 100
22:59 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: 100m in-tunnel?
22:59 < dragonfleas> and out
22:59 < abakedapplepie> "100"
22:59 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:59 < admiralspark> oh, yeah, psh
22:59 < abakedapplepie> 100 bits?
22:59 < dragonfleas> 100m you fucker
22:59 < abakedapplepie> here sir, your 100 bps tunnel is provisioned
23:00 < abakedapplepie> kindly verify and return comment
23:00 < admiralspark> 5506-x with ipsec ikev2 tunnel using aes128 will do that just fine dragonfleas. If you need ngfw stuff though don't use an ASA
23:00 < admiralspark> but if it's routing/acl's/vpn that'll do
23:00 < dragonfleas> what is ngfw
23:00 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: just hire roger from IT crowd
23:01 <@JollyRgrs> you won't have to touch him, much less see him. he'll just do his work in the backgruond
23:01 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: next-gen firewall. IDS/IPS, Antimalware, Web Scanning and filtering, DPI, etc
23:01 < dragonfleas> oh yeah, i do want web filtering, i'm going to block one of our departments from going to youtube
23:01 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: then that's completely different :P
23:02 < dragonfleas> our current ASA has web filtering?
23:02 < admiralspark> via IP?
23:02 < dragonfleas> yep
23:02 < admiralspark> right. You can't do that with yt
23:02 < dragonfleas> should i get a 5516-x instead
23:02 < admiralspark> no, you want something that does FQDN filtering right
23:02 < dragonfleas> shit
23:02 < admiralspark> like *.youtube.com
23:02 < dragonfleas> yeah it does to FQDN, but our last network guy set it up
23:03 < admiralspark> maybe you should talk to a VAR man :P
23:03 < dragonfleas> i'll get it off techsoup
23:03 < dragonfleas> no var
23:03 < admiralspark> oh, you're techsoup
23:03 < admiralspark> look
23:04 < admiralspark> get a Fortinet 30E
23:04 < admiralspark> set
23:04 < admiralspark> forget
23:04 < admiralspark> never touch it again
23:04 < abakedapplepie> or buy a sophos xg
23:04 < abakedapplepie> aka join the sophos NGFW beta test
23:04 < abakedapplepie> :|
23:04 < admiralspark> I think he doesn't want licensing hassle though?
23:04 < admiralspark> lol
23:04 < MillerBoss> pfSense
23:04 < abakedapplepie> those fucking fucks
23:04 < dragonfleas> yep no licensing hassle for me
23:04 < dragonfleas> that's why i don't want sonicwall
23:04 < abakedapplepie> frankly, next gen shit youre not getting without paying a license
23:04 < admiralspark> I can't believe I'm gonna say this but a pfsense appliance, like a Netgate SG3100 would work dragonfleas
23:05 < abakedapplepie> youre not getting ips/ids/antivirus/webfiltering/antispam for free
23:05 < abakedapplepie> youre just not
23:05 < admiralspark> and then just set up the ngfw stuff on your own
23:05 < dragonfleas> admiralspark, you deserve a ban for thta
23:05 < admiralspark> abakedapplepie: you have to do the work, but pfsense can do all of it
23:05 < admiralspark> we determined technician time was valuable enough that buying something else with it already working was worth it but
23:05 < MillerBoss> I am moving from SonicWALLs to Forigate, dragonfleas
23:05 < abakedapplepie> i cant imagine that is anything but a complete and total pita to set up
23:06 <@JollyRgrs> just know the more you ask of pfsense the more power it needs (and/or the more your throughput will drop)
23:06 < dragonfleas> is it possible to have a 3 way vpn tunnel
23:06 < abakedapplepie> and maintain
23:06 < dragonfleas> like
23:06 < abakedapplepie> no
23:06 < abakedapplepie> but you can set up 3 tunnels
23:06 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: come at me. It's a good OS even with an asshole at the head of development
23:06 < abakedapplepie> lol
23:06 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: it won't be gay as long as it is in a 3-way
23:06 < MillerBoss> dragonfleas: sure with yourmom
23:06 < admiralspark> MillerBoss: there's enough of that to go around for everybody to have their own tunnel
23:06 < dragonfleas> no, like node1-node2 node2-node3 node1-node3
23:06 < abakedapplepie> a<->b, b<->c, a<->c
23:06 < dragonfleas> yeah
23:06 < abakedapplepie> should work fine
23:06 < abakedapplepie> its three separate tunnels
23:06 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: it's called a vpn mesh ;)
23:07 < dragonfleas> VPN MESH
23:07 < dragonfleas> that's what i was trying to think of
23:07 < MillerBoss> 1echo
23:07 < MillerBoss> `echo
23:07 <@JollyRgrs> 2bravo
23:07 < admiralspark> 3charlie
23:07 < abakedapplepie> 4dora
23:07 < dragonfleas> lol
23:07 < admiralspark> abakedapplepie: ayyo
23:07 <@JollyRgrs> 5head
23:07 < dragonfleas> 6nipple
23:07 < dragonfleas> wait what?
23:07 <@JollyRgrs> no
23:08 < abakedapplepie> this is no longer phonetic.
23:08 < abakedapplepie> you guys suck.
23:08 <@JollyRgrs> dragonfleas: got your mom on the brain?
23:08 < dragonfleas> JollyRgrs, yeah we fucked a couple hours ago
23:08 < abakedapplepie> o.o
23:08 < Sousapro> mom-wife
23:08 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: b/c four dora is totally phonetic
23:08 < Sousapro> that's what I'm talking about\
23:08 < dragonfleas> where my incest bros at?
23:08 < Sousapro> hyphenated family titles
23:08 < abakedapplepie> lol i didnt even see echo
23:08 < abakedapplepie> i saw bravo charlie
23:08 < abakedapplepie> went with d
23:08 < dragonfleas> my mom-uncle-nephew
23:08 < abakedapplepie> rip
23:09 < Sousapro> Blue Falcon
23:09 < dragonfleas> Red Leader
23:09 < abakedapplepie> blue waffle
23:09 < dragonfleas> Porkins
23:09 < Sousapro> lmao
23:09 < Sousapro> 300lb dude named porkins
23:09 < abakedapplepie> jolly rancher
23:09 < dragonfleas> LOL
23:09 < Sousapro> apparently he wouldn't stop eating at the buffet line during filming
23:10 < abakedapplepie> they should have had him with a sandwich in the cockpit
23:10 < abakedapplepie> let porkins go out doing what he loved
23:10 < abakedapplepie> eating cold cuts
23:10 <@JollyRgrs> wait, what? this is real? https://www.target.com/p/shaq-fu-a-legend-reborn-xbox-one/-/A-53434477?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google_pla_df&CPNG=PLA_Video+Games+Shopping&adgroup=SC_Video+Games&LID=700000001170770pgs&network=g&device=c&location=9011566&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpZ3C0_W62wIVkIJpCh0aWAgIEAYYASABEgLoAPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
23:10 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn - Xbox One : Target
23:10 <@ravioli> you guys are about to witness something very rare
23:10 < dragonfleas> ravioli, what is that
23:10 < DomLS3> ravioli: do tell
23:10 < abakedapplepie> a user that is correct?
23:10 < dragonfleas> +v to DomLS3?
23:10 < DomLS3> that's not rare
23:10 < Heresiarch> ravioli: competent management?
23:10 < DomLS3> I get +v all the time
23:11 < dragonfleas> Sure DomLS3 keep telling yourself that buddy
23:11 < abakedapplepie> ravioli: sex?
23:11 < dragonfleas> ravioli, a nazi at a communist rally?
23:11 < DomLS3> 04:11p | [MODE] > ravioli sets mode -o dongerdong
23:11 <@ravioli> IT'S HAPPENING
23:11 < DomLS3> RIP donger
23:11 < dragonfleas> LOL
23:11 < MillerBoss> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihorvo2tEuA
23:11 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  YouTube → Project Mojave - Windows Vista Perception → ⚘ 16,990 ↑ 58 ↓ 29 ✍ 26
23:12 < abakedapplepie> wait why
23:12 < abakedapplepie> whats wrong with donger
23:12 < dragonfleas> oh ravioli disconnected
23:12 < dragonfleas> i get it
23:12 < MillerBoss> RAGQUIT
23:12 < MillerBoss> Add him to the list Hunterkll
23:12 < DomLS3> ragquit?
23:12 < abakedapplepie> oh
23:12 < abakedapplepie> znc restart probs
23:12 < DomLS3> MillerBoss: is ragquit like when a girl gets off her period?
23:12 < Hunterkll> lol
23:12 < dragonfleas> someone's getting opped i think
23:12 < MillerBoss> Good question.
23:12 < dragonfleas> hopefully it's DomLS3
23:13 < dragonfleas> so i get banned every day
23:13 < abakedapplepie> if DomLS3 gets op cryptic1 will eat a dick on camera
23:13 < MillerBoss> I doubt that
23:13 < dragonfleas> I doubt that as well
23:13 < abakedapplepie> he said it not me
23:13 < dragonfleas> when did cryptic1 say that
23:14 < abakedapplepie> last week
23:14 < dragonfleas> lmao
23:14 < dragonfleas> sometimes i wonder why the hell i come in this irc every day
23:14 < abakedapplepie> me too
23:14 < abakedapplepie> nobody likes you
23:14 < dragonfleas> i realized i've been in here for months
23:14 < MillerBoss> Feel free to not join dragonfleas
23:14 < abakedapplepie> KICK ROCKS KID
23:14 < dragonfleas> damn ya'll savage as fuck
23:14 < abakedapplepie> i mean
23:14 < abakedapplepie> sorry
23:14 < abakedapplepie> welcome to costco
23:15 < abakedapplepie> i love you
23:15 < MillerBoss> Well don't sit or shit on us.
23:15 < abakedapplepie> except McDonaldsWiFi
23:15 < abakedapplepie> he likes that kind of thing
23:15 < MillerBoss> Thank you drive thru
23:15 < abakedapplepie> dont ask
23:15 < dragonfleas> fuck you abakedapplepie, fuck you MillerBoss, cryptic1 you're cool, fuck you, fuck you
23:15 < MillerBoss> Is this linuxd00d?
23:15 < abakedapplepie> no
23:15 < MillerBoss> Sure sounds like it
23:16 < abakedapplepie> he came back for a day a few weeks ago
23:16 < MillerBoss> Oh yeah we saw that
23:16 < abakedapplepie> sounds like an awful pie
23:16 < atoastedapplepie> I MEME XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
23:16 < abakedapplepie> :P
23:16 < MillerBoss> Who is meme?
23:16 < joelazot> ok
23:16 < dragonfleas> lol
23:16 < joelazot> how is everyone
23:16 < dragonfleas> sup
23:16 < corn266> I mentioned like 2 ideas to increase security at a meeting this morning and this has been my day so far https://imgur.com/9e5kaju
23:16 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 1000x500 → ⚘ 2
23:16 < abakedapplepie> joelazot: dead
23:17 < joelazot> abakedapplepie: sounds god
23:17 < dragonfleas> i'm good, just planning a migration of our firewalls along with building a new domain controller
23:17 < joelazot> good*
23:17 < joelazot> dragonfleas: nice
23:17 < abakedapplepie> im installing dynamics 365 on prem for the third time
23:17 < corn266> oh no my boss is trying to get us into blockchain shit
23:17 < joelazot> corn266: oh god
23:17 < abakedapplepie> third time is a charm right boys
23:18 < joelazot> you've got joel's retard luck
23:18 < joelazot> since im here now
23:18 < MillerBoss> for what reason corn266 ?
23:18 < joelazot> it must work
23:18 < MillerBoss> I mean what was his reasoning?
23:18 < corn266> https://dock.io/
23:18 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  Dock: Own & Control Your Personal Data
23:18 < corn266> however he wanted us to add blockchain tech to a hospital's inventory system
23:19 <@JollyRgrs> so who's excited about Shaq-Fu?
23:19 < MillerBoss> >GitHub now built on blockchain technology brought to you baby Microsoft.
23:19 < dragonfleas> abakedapplepie, why are you installing dynamics 365 on-prem?
23:19 < MillerBoss> fucking autocorrect
23:19 < MillerBoss> s/baby/by
23:19 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss] >GitHub now built on blockchain technology brought to you by Microsoft.
23:19 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dfj9x9uBik
23:19 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Shaq-Fu: A Legend Reborn – Launch Trailer | PS4 → ⚘ 377,419 ↑ 6,557 ↓ 788 ✍ 1,274
23:19 < MillerBoss> Thanks layer-eight for saving me a lick
23:20 <@JollyRgrs> releasing like... tomorrow
23:20 < MillerBoss> I lick only the links
23:20 <@JollyRgrs> a new shaq-fu game!
23:20 <@JollyRgrs> c'mon! who's not excited! lol
23:20 < corn266> `echo you're welcome
23:20 <+layer-eight> You are not a member of the group Administrator. Access denied
23:20 < MillerBoss> DENIED
23:20 < corn266> `echo You are not a member of the group Administrator. Access denied
23:20 <+layer-eight> You are not a member of the group Administrator. Access denied
23:20 < MillerBoss> Wow you hax'd it
23:21 < ravioli> lol
23:22 <@JollyRgrs> OMG... MillerBoss... these chiense dudes called shaq "burnt rice"
23:22 < Hatter> chinese people are pretty racist
23:22 <@JollyRgrs> https://youtu.be/D2Od0VUjGYo?t=166
23:22 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Od0VUjGYo&feature=youtu.be&t=166 → YouTube → 8 Min of Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn at PAX East 2018 (Switch) → ⚘ 24,435 ↑ 322 ↓ 22 ✍ 163
23:22 < MillerBoss> We need a new Punch Out
23:23 < Hatter> Punch Out really was brilliant
23:23 <@JollyRgrs> i want a legit road rash remake
23:23 < Hatter> I guess you didn't care for that latest one on steam
23:23 < MillerBoss> Burnt rice. Like I call the cars with the shitty tail pipe rice burners.
23:25 < MillerBoss> Well I'll be damed https://www.google.com/search?q=rice+burner
23:25 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  rice burner - Google Search
23:26 < joelazot> Bit of an off topic question guys, but do you guys know of any good free resources for CCENT (ICND1)?
23:26 < hxcsp> cisco academy packet tracer
23:26 < hxcsp> joelazot:
23:27 < hxcsp> not sure if thats free though...
23:27 < joelazot> I think its free
23:28 < joelazot> I've got a cisco 3560G tho
23:28 < joelazot> anyway
23:28 < joelazot> im off for a bit
23:30 < int0x1C8> s/[aeiu]/o
23:31 < int0x1C8> who broke layer 8
23:31 < corn266> whoever wrote the regex replace
23:31 < corn266> s/8/10
23:31 <+layer-eight> [SED corn266/int0x1C8] who broke layer 10
23:31 < MillerBoss> `echo  I am not broke
23:31 <+layer-eight> I am not broke
23:31 < int0x1C8> `echo I am garbage
23:31 <+layer-eight> You are not a member of the group Administrator. Access denied
23:31 < int0x1C8> pff
23:32 < corn266> #rekt
23:32 < MillerBoss> Downloading new macOS and iOS.
23:32 < corn266> congrats
23:34 < MillerBoss> Sounds about right. 2010 iMac >This version of macOS 10.14 cannot be installed on this computer
23:36 < corn266> oh god an 8 year old iMac?
23:37 < MillerBoss> Yeah it runs incredibly fast
23:37 < Hunterkll> corn266, 8-10 years ago computers got 'fast enough'
23:37 < Hunterkll> but sounds like you have a 32 bit UEFI
23:37 < Hunterkll> i think that's the cutoff
23:37 < MillerBoss> Yup
23:37 < Hunterkll> someone made a bootloader to bypass that i think
23:38 < MillerBoss> System Information: Model: iMac (27-inch, Mid 2010) • CPU: Intel Core i7 870 (8 Threads, 4 Cores) @ 2.93 GHz • Memory: 32.00 GB • Uptime: 1 day • Disk Space: 499.90 GB • Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5750 • Display Resolution: 2560 x 1440 • OS: macOS High Sierra (Version 10.13.4, Build 17E202)
23:38 < MillerBoss> This is just a side machine.
23:43 < MadCamel> just my side chick, yeah.
23:45 < rhqq> it's like newest mercedes amg black series, but barbie pink color
23:45 < rhqq> yeah, its a nice machine, but fuck no
23:46 < rhqq> well, just noticed 2010
23:46 < rhqq> well. 2010 mercedes amg
23:46 < rhqq> :E
23:46 < hxcsp> so a corolla
23:46 < hxcsp> a pink corolla
23:47 < MillerBoss> You are my side chic MadCamel
23:48 < MillerBoss> Definitely not installing this beta macOS on my main machine though. I just set up macOS from scratch over the weekend.
23:48 < AlaAkhbar> you know how AMG got its name right
23:48 < MillerBoss> Learn us
23:49 < MillerBoss> Do you run macOS Hunterkll?
23:49 < Hunterkll> occasionally
23:49 < MillerBoss> On what?
23:50 < MillerBoss> An ol macbook?
23:50 < DomLS3> Windows > MAc
23:51 < AlaAkhbar> MillerBoss:  AMG got its name from the 2 original guys and the town it started in
23:51 < AlaAkhbar> A as in Aufrecht, M as in Melcher and G as in Großaspach
23:52 < rhqq> im not sure whether i can count to 2
23:52 < rhqq> but i can see 3 names
23:52 < joelazot> everyone's least favourite retard is back
23:52 < AlaAkhbar> aufrech and melcher are the 2 guys GroBaspach is the town
23:53 < MillerBoss> But you are my favorite
23:53 < rhqq> iunno, everything in german sounds like an order to kill
23:53 < MillerBoss> Yeah pretty much
23:54 < AlaAkhbar> Hans Werner Aufrecht and Erhard Melcher in Burgstall an der Murr, near Stuttgart. The letters "AMG" stand for Aufrecht, Melcher and Großaspach (Aufrecht's birth town
23:54 < hxcsp> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_xUIDRxdmc
23:54 <+layer-eight> * hxcsp →  YouTube → How German Sounds Compared To Other Languages || CopyCatChannel → ⚘ 15,365,440 ↑ 198,619 ↓ 15,618 ✍ 25,287
23:54 < AlaAkhbar> hans werner aufrecht definetly sounds like a groin injury
23:54 < joelazot> MillerBoss: yey
23:55 < AlaAkhbar> whenever i speak german i feel like i'm trying to get phelm out of my throat
23:55 < genr8_> it is kinda gross sounding
23:55 < MillerBoss> Hunterkll: Couldn't you just do nvram boot-args=""
23:58 < MillerBoss> So whats up joelazot ?
23:58 < joelazot> Not much, how are ya?
23:59 < MillerBoss> Attempting to get motivated over here to do some work stuff.
23:59 < Hunterkll> MillerBoss, no, it can't boot the kernel
23:59 < Hunterkll> lol
23:59 < MillerBoss> Thats from https://download.developer.apple.com/Documentation/Beta_Release_Notes_Jun_4_2018/macOS_10.14_beta_Release_Notes.pdf Hunterkll
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