--- Log opened Tue Jun 05 00:00:11 2018
--- Day changed Tue Jun 05 2018
00:00 < Hunterkll> the 32 bit EFI thing was an issue in prior versions tho
00:00 < MillerBoss> Oh
00:00 < MillerBoss> Ahh I think that is to disable 32bit apps only command of nvram boot-args="-no32exec"
00:00 < joelazot> I'm just slowly working towards buying a server; gonna learn some networking on my Cisco switch as well
00:01 < joelazot> might look for a online CCENT course or something
00:01 < joelazot> maybe CCNA
00:01 < Hunterkll> MillerBoss, yes, that's like removing WOW32 from server core
00:01 < MillerBoss> What type of server? For a homelab? joelazot
00:01 < MillerBoss> OK that makes more sense Hunterkll
00:01 < Hunterkll> (yes, you can uninstall 32 bit support from windows server :D)
00:01 < Hunterkll> (but only server core)
00:02 < joelazot> MillerBoss: Ideally a HP DL380 G7 although i'll probably buy a DL360 G7 / G6; It's gonna be for my homelab and be used as an ESXi host.
00:02 < Hunterkll> get the 380 if you value your hearing
00:02 < Hunterkll> 1Us are noisy fuckers
00:02 < Hunterkll> 2Us are bearable
00:02 < joelazot> I'll be sleeping next to it too :/
00:02 < Hunterkll> I have had multiple 2Us on 24/7 in my bedroom fine
00:02 < Hunterkll> i wouldn't do it with a 1U
00:02 < MillerBoss> I am just finishing up now my Mac mini here for ESXi
00:02 < Hunterkll> no way
00:03 < MillerBoss> jose
00:03 < Hunterkll> lol
00:03 < Maarten> I wouldn't want any computers in my bedroom..... I just use a tower PC for my ESXi needs.
00:03 < joelazot> Apparently its only like 35dB idle and 38dB under load (dl360 g7)
00:04 < Maarten> But never in the bedroom. Other things take place there. Not computers :P
00:04 < joelazot> and i sleep with my 3560G and that's apparently around 44dB
00:04 < Maarten> Why would you WANT to sleep with computers? Unless.... of course you are young and still living with mommy and daddy.
00:04 < joelazot> I'm 15 :p
00:05 < joelazot> not *sleep* with them; but they're on my desk.
00:05 < Maarten> Yeah. Tell dad you will put a few computers in... the garage :P
00:05 < MillerBoss> First time I seen this but I don't usually see Safari. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/roL7dUOg/Screen%20Shot%202018-06-04%20at%205.04.00%20PM.png
00:05 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 14,516 bytes
00:05 < joelazot> Regardless, I'm off. see you guys in a bit.
00:05 < MillerBoss> OK BYEEE
00:06 < MillerBoss> Very helpful
00:08 < MillerBoss> Hunterkll: Did you ever get approved for Flightaware?
00:09 < MillerBoss> Also subscribing to Verizon Wireless Network Event Notification Program is helpful. I have some network extenders installed. Notified of Verizon downtime.
00:09 < MillerBoss> Affected Service: 4G LTE Network extender
00:09 < MillerBoss> Affected Location: Nationwide
00:14 < joelazot> meme teen is back
00:16 < Hunterkll> MillerBoss, no i got denied
00:16 < Hunterkll> will build my own anyway
00:16 < MillerBoss> Yeah same here.
00:20 < Hunterkll> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
00:20 < Hunterkll> BAHAHAHAHHAHA
00:20 < Hunterkll> OH MAN
00:21 < MillerBoss> OH GIRL
00:21 < MillerBoss> DPH154
00:21 < MillerBoss> https://fail0verflow.com/blog/2012/microcell-fail/
00:21 < Hunterkll> MillerBoss, oh i got an APRS-IS weather station too. solar powered. w4krl.com/iot-kits
00:21 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  fail0verflow :: AT&T Microcell FAIL
00:21 < Hunterkll> picked it up yesterday
00:21 < Hunterkll> BUT
00:21 < Hunterkll> the AHHAHAHAHAHAHA was over my camera
00:21 < Hunterkll> i got this EOS-3 for only $200 instead of the usual like $350-500
00:21 < Hunterkll> becaues it had a few livable faults
00:21 < Hunterkll> i reset all the custom functions back to stock and all the faults disappeared
00:21 < Hunterkll> it was just bad configuraiotn
00:21 < MillerBoss> Good find eh
00:22 < Hunterkll> yea
00:22 < Hunterkll> now i gotta find that one on ebay that doesn't autorewind film
00:22 < Hunterkll> that's also a custom function setting...
00:22 <@ravioli> i found a script that does exactly what i want Hunterkll
00:22 <@ravioli> so now i'm a script kiddie apparently
00:22 < MillerBoss> Whats your handle ravioli ?
00:23 <@ravioli> "cryptic1"
00:23 <@cryptic1> ?
00:23 < MillerBoss> It sounds good. I think it could be catchy
00:23 < Hunterkll> lol
00:24 < Hunterkll> ravioli, i'm just happy this camera isn't actually broken
00:24 <@ravioli> what camera?
00:24 < Hunterkll> EOS-3
00:24 < Hunterkll> well
00:24 < Hunterkll> i bought it knowing it had these faults
00:24 <@ravioli> oh yeah
00:24 < Hunterkll> turns out it was just bad configuration
00:24 < catbeard> Have a seat right over there for me
00:24 < Hunterkll> the faults i was going to live with (AF mode and back dial not working) were just bad config
00:24 < Hunterkll> so i basically got it $200 under normal price
00:24 < Hunterkll> :D
00:24 <@ravioli> i used to shoot mostly film but within the past 3 or 4 years, all the photo development places have stopped doing photo development around here.
00:25 < Hunterkll> I do my own work
00:25 < Hunterkll> i'm actually about to do the B&W test roll i just shot in it
00:25 < Hunterkll> after i eat this pizza
00:25 < Hunterkll> and my water bath for C-41 temperature stability is coming tomorrow
00:25 <@ravioli> rite-aid and walgreens used to do it in an hour but now they ship your negatives off and you never get them back. so fuck that.
00:25 < MillerBoss> hmm should I get DPH-151 or DPH-154
00:25 < Hunterkll> lol
00:25 <@ravioli> have you done color?
00:25 < Hunterkll> yes
00:25 <@ravioli> i looked into it a while back but it seems like such a pain
00:25 < Hunterkll> not without a jobo before, but it's the same just have to hand rotate shit instead
00:25 < Hunterkll> eh
00:25 < catbeard> Ya ravioli that's evidence now
00:25 < Hunterkll> ravioli, extra step compared to B&W/D-76
00:25 <@ravioli> kek
00:25 < Hunterkll> and you need to keep stable temps
00:26 < Hunterkll> but taht's easy with surplus shit on ebay
00:26 <@ravioli> yeah
00:26 <@ravioli> i bought an x100f instead
00:26 <@ravioli> it's pretty dope.
00:26 < Hunterkll> this is what i bought - https://www.ebay.com/itm/292548273669
00:26 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  ⚓  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Precision-Scientific-Stainless-Steel-Thelco-Water-Bath-Model-82-/322517914497?oid=292548273669 → Precision Scientific Stainless Steel Thelco Water Bath Model 82  | eBay
00:26 < Hunterkll> cheap as shit
00:26 < Hunterkll> i don't have access to the college lab anymore so i gotta make do
00:26 < Hunterkll> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2054502.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC2.A0.H0.Xprecision+water+bath.TRS1&_nkw=precision+water+bath&_sacat=0
00:26 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  precision water bath | eBay
00:26 < Hunterkll> tons of better choices, but i was cheap
00:27 < Hunterkll> ravioli, eventually i'm going to get an EOS-1V and an EOS-1D X Mk II
00:27 < Hunterkll> then i'll push the 5D Mk III into service
00:27 < Hunterkll> right now i protect it like the baby jesus and only use it for video work
00:27 < Hunterkll> 1D X Mk II finally beats film in every metric including shooting speed, so i'm gonna get it. might hawk the hololens to pay for half of it
00:28 < Hunterkll> it's also an EOS-1 series, so it'll be built to handle my abuse in environments that i'll be doing still work in
00:29 < Hunterkll> mainly alcohol fueled anime conventions
00:29 <@ravioli> oh there's a deer outside my office
00:29 <@ravioli> big bastard too
00:29 < Hunterkll> My EOS-50e failed in chicago two weeks ago, and my 75-300 took a rum bath
00:29 < Hunterkll> so yea
00:29 < Hunterkll> i need EOS-1 level construction and weather sealing
00:29 < Hunterkll> lol
00:29 < Hunterkll> Eventually I'll have the 1D X Mk II with 5D as backup body, and 1V with 3 as backup body ... backups in hotel room, 1 film and 1 digi on me while out
00:29 < Hunterkll> do both formats
00:30 < Hunterkll> ravioli, well go get the office shotugn and bag it
00:30 < Hunterkll> c'mon man this is easy :P
00:35 < joelazot> I'm wondering if there's any jobs i could do for you guys for some cash?
00:35 < javi404> joelazot: what kind of job?
00:36 < joelazot> Anything online really
00:36 < grumplestiltzkin> joelazot: I need an awning or pergola built to get some shade on my back patio. Want to bid it?   North of Ft. Worth
00:37 < grumplestiltzkin> I just dont have time
00:37 < joelazot> I should've mentioned im not from the US :/
00:38 < L3gacy> I dont know why I discuss politics.  I never win, and all evidence I ring is consider a "conspiracy" even if it's from the NY Times, or Thehill...
00:39 < L3gacy> s/ring/bring
00:39 <+layer-eight> [SED L3gacy] I dont know why I discuss politics.  I never win, and all evidence I bring is consider a "conspiracy" even if it's from the NY Times, or Thehill...
00:41 < L3gacy> xe0n!
00:42 < xe0n> yo
00:42 < abakedapplepie> god damn dog is too cute ugh
00:43 < m4221> NinjaStyle: hey
00:44 < L3gacy> m4221: hai
00:44 <+NinjaStyle> Yo
00:44 < m4221> $bossMan said again "I am just not an open source kind of guy."
00:45 < L3gacy> m4221: find a new $BOSS
00:45 < L3gacy> use a trebuchet to eliminate old one
00:45 < m4221> L3gacy: they did that in Action Point
00:45 < L3gacy> :)
00:45 < L3gacy> katnip: muffins!
00:46 < katnip> bagels!
00:46 < L3gacy> Glazed bacon donuts :)
00:46  * L3gacy noms with gusto and belches in awe
00:46 < katnip> fresh chocalate
00:47 < L3gacy> fresh chocolate, sea salt, and acarmel together is amaze
00:47 < L3gacy> then I get the lantus™ pen out..
00:47 < L3gacy> *caramel
00:47 < rpifan> hi
00:47 < L3gacy> rpifan: hai!
00:47 < L3gacy> rpiwatercooled?
00:48 < rpifan> ive made tie dye
00:48 < rpifan> one of them came out cool
00:48 < rpifan> the others are kinda meh
00:48 < katnip> ooo caramel
00:49 < L3gacy> Friend's granfather gave him a new jeep, paid off.
00:49 < L3gacy> then catastrophe hit, his great grams wound up in a nursing home on mdeicaid.  NJ is seizing assets to cover
00:49 < L3gacy> Taking the hosue.  Grandfather is filing bankruptcy, lawyer already said bank will take the jeep
00:49 < L3gacy> *house
00:50 < L3gacy> I has a sad
00:53 < L3gacy> So.. any good guides for setting up LAMP AND hardening?
00:56 < MillerBoss> Why the fuck are these so expensive https://secure.thetrackr.com/
00:56 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  TrackR | Find lost keys, wallets, phones and more with TrackR pixel
00:56 < agent_white> Yikes... if he paid his grandpa even a buck for that car, he woulda been able to keep it.
00:56 < L3gacy> agent_white: he didnt and no receipt
00:57 < L3gacy> And under the law, he would have had to pay fair market to avoid it being seized
00:59 < MillerBoss> Just have the power of attorney sell you the vehicle
01:00 < MillerBoss> I didn't read all of what you said
01:00 < Maarten> If the DMV pink slip was transferred to a new owner they don't have a leg to stand on.
01:05 < L3gacy> The POA is the grandfather.  The grandfather is filing bankruptcy.
01:07 < MillerBoss> To me anything the POA is POA off should be off limits in bankruptcy.
01:07 < MillerBoss> But what do I know
01:07 < MillerBoss> POE is just an agent
01:08 < MillerBoss> Unless joint debtor or co-signer or name on debts
01:08 < agent_white> Yeah I woulda thought it would be, too. One of my stepdad's buddies sold an old ass truck to him for a buck, got a 'receipt' for it too so he could use it for a tax break.
01:09 < MillerBoss> Oh, he quit. I didn't notice
01:09 < MillerBoss> irccloud kinda hide that
01:09 < MillerBoss> hides*
01:10 < rpifan> sigh
01:10 < rpifan> amazon has screwed me over once again
01:11 < MillerBoss> Another day just another time rpifan gets screwed again.
01:11 < rpifan> sad but true
01:11 < MillerBoss> amirite?
01:11 < rpifan> yes
01:12 < rpifan> almost concered cancelling my trip to roo
01:12 < rpifan> cause apparently the cops are like flys at the moment
01:12 < rpifan> ripping everything apart
01:12 < rpifan> shining lights into pepoples eyes
01:12 < rpifan> id rather eat the 300 dollar lose
01:13 < rpifan> and live another day
01:14 < genr8_> its always like that
01:15 < genr8_> dont let that stop you
01:16 < genr8_> u just avoid the cops, stash your shit properly and dont carry anything else thats not allowed, like Glass bottles or bottles of liquor or anything else on the list
01:16 < genr8_> theres a bunch of random things they like to confiscate too, i forgot by now
01:16 < MillerBoss> Are you talking about flying rpifan?
01:16 < genr8_> like innocuous items. so if you dont have any of those and you dont piss them off and you're polite,  you're good to go
01:17 < MillerBoss> If so its pretty simple, don't be stupid.
01:17 < abakedapplepie> rpifan: lol just buy your drugs when you get there
01:17 < abakedapplepie> you nut
01:17 < abakedapplepie> why would you forfeit a $300 festival weekend
01:18 < abakedapplepie> ohhh youre saying DURING the festival
01:18 < abakedapplepie> shit
01:18 < abakedapplepie> lame if true
01:18 < genr8_> nah theres only mounted horseback police and they dont do crap
01:19 < abakedapplepie> i miss roo
01:19 < abakedapplepie> i dont miss the heat and the dust
01:19 < rpifan> ive heard its bad tho
01:19 < rpifan> constant raids
01:19 < genr8_> raids on what lol
01:20 < abakedapplepie> i go to electric forest every now and then since its not so far but its not the same
01:20 < rpifan> for drugs and at tents
01:20 < abakedapplepie> the cops dont have the manpower to do shit at a giant festival like that
01:20 < genr8_> if you're using your tent as a drug shop? then yea i guess....
01:20 < abakedapplepie> the best they can do is look for people acting completely and totally obvious about illegal shit
01:20 < genr8_> yea
01:20 < abakedapplepie> they dont go out of their way
01:20 < abakedapplepie> ive been to a dozen big festivals its the same everywhere for the most part
01:21 < genr8_> that is enough to keep them busy tbh. a lot of ppl try and flaunt it
01:21 < abakedapplepie> but ive been to roo twice in particular
01:21 < abakedapplepie> just not since 2012
01:21 < genr8_> yea me too
01:21 < rpifan> well
01:21 < rpifan> tbh honest
01:21 < genr8_> theres always like 50 or something people arrested, thats just how it is
01:21 < rpifan> i just wann ahave random public sex , smoke weed and do shrooms nad im scared
01:22 < genr8_> no sex, lots of weed, and plenty of shrooms
01:22 < abakedapplepie> one year electric forest had a MAJOR FUCKING CRACKDOWN but it was the state highway patrol pulling over people by the dozen for the most minor infraction on the way and searching them
01:22 < genr8_> count on that
01:22 < abakedapplepie> nothing at the festival itself
01:22 < rpifan> what do you mean no sex?
01:22 < abakedapplepie> dusty tail light? pulled over
01:22 < abakedapplepie> riding in the right lane for more than 20 seconds? pulled over
01:22 < genr8_> nobodys having sex in public at roo really
01:22 < agent_white> abakedapplepie: Just put the ecstasy in your shoes, that was my strat when I was a little raver boi. :P
01:22 < abakedapplepie> windshield wipers on and its not raining? pulled over
01:22 < rpifan> oh?
01:22 < rpifan> :-(
01:23 < abakedapplepie> most large festivals like that have at least a few dozen arrests, the cops will usually publish everything in full
01:23 < genr8_> its still real life man
01:23 < abakedapplepie> and its not uncommon to have at least one or two deaths
01:23 < rpifan> pretty sure ppl died at okechobee
01:23 < rpifan> but i saw a guy and girl fuck in a truck at oke
01:23 < rpifan> lots of fun to watch
01:24 < abakedapplepie> you gotta realize that with 200k people all crammed into 4 square miles, its going to be a microcosm of everything that is happening in the world
01:24 < abakedapplepie> including drugs, sex trafficking, assault, rape, numerous other things
01:25 < abakedapplepie> you can get away with a LOT in the vip section though :P
01:25 < rpifan> yea thats what ive heard
01:25 < rpifan> i know a guy tho
01:25 < rpifan> at roo he is the same guy i meet at oke
01:25 < rpifan> he helps to run the bars
01:25 < rpifan> maybe if i can find him he can help me
01:25 < genr8_> you can get away with a lot if you're sneaky
01:25 < abakedapplepie> first time at roo in 08, camped next to a pair of older dudes
01:26 < rpifan> i wanna fuck a lot
01:26 < abakedapplepie> 2 hours later hes got 5 lbs of weed sitting on his dashboard
01:26 < genr8_> it would be better to have a veteran to follow around
01:26 < abakedapplepie> curing
01:26 < abakedapplepie> lol
01:26 < rpifan> str8 and gay sex
01:26 <+NinjaStyle> atlanta area is way better than dallas, fite me
01:26 < MillerBoss> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68cbjlLFl4U
01:26 < abakedapplepie> they cut their plants early to make it to bonnaroo, gave me some all weekend
01:26 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  YouTube → Merle Haggard - Okie From Muskogee (Live) → ⚘ 1,102,330 ↑ 4,823 ↓ 202 ✍ 419
01:27 < rpifan> this guy said he would get me into roo for free
01:27 < rpifan> but he disappeared still
01:27 < rpifan> i now how to find him
01:27 < rpifan> and ill hold him to his promise
01:27 < rpifan> with some vip something
01:27 <+NinjaStyle> coderphive: fite me
01:27 < abakedapplepie> i met a guy that made counterfeit tickets in 2011 at lolla
01:27 < genr8_> yeah theres a fair bit of ticket scams
01:28 < abakedapplepie> he made a living traveling the world making fake wristbands
01:28 < genr8_> first thing i thought lol
01:28 < abakedapplepie> but he sold them as fakes
01:28 < abakedapplepie> like he wasnt trying to pass them off
01:28 < genr8_> thats good at least
01:28 < abakedapplepie> gave coaching about how to get in with them etc
01:28 < genr8_> maybe thats what that guy is doing
01:28 < rpifan> the miami moonsoons have started
01:28 < abakedapplepie> didnt take him up on it because we already had tickets but i took down his info lol
01:28 < rpifan> listen i just dont want to get arreste
01:28 < rpifan> di want to move to germany
01:28 < rpifan> thats my goal
01:28 < abakedapplepie> he showed me the fakes he had for the year already
01:28 < abakedapplepie> like 30 different festivals
01:28 < abakedapplepie> big and small
01:29 < abakedapplepie> he used cotton fabric and an inkjet printer.
01:29 < abakedapplepie> nowadays everything is RFID so you cant really get away with it
01:29 < genr8_> kinda sad i didnt go to bonnaroo now
01:29 < rpifan> come to roo
01:29 < rpifan> plz
01:29 < rpifan> show me around
01:29 < rpifan> protect me
01:29 < MillerBoss> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QAEmCuBnck
01:29 < abakedapplepie> that sounds awful
01:29 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  YouTube → Jerry Reed - East Bound And Down → ⚘ 905,304 ↑ 7,528 ↓ 134 ✍ 449
01:29 < MillerBoss> Its time
01:30 < genr8_> its too intense man
01:30 < genr8_> cant do it
01:30 < abakedapplepie> i dont do anything but weed and alcohol these days so festivals are only so appealing to me now
01:30 < abakedapplepie> i end up sitting in camp smoking weed all day and not going to the festival grounds
01:30 < rpifan> im concerned that given how drunk i got a oke there gona pick me up for being drunk
01:31 < abakedapplepie> then dont get that fucked up
01:31 < abakedapplepie> be responsible man
01:31 < abakedapplepie> a festival ticket is not a free ride to being irresponsible
01:31 < rpifan> then why am i paying 300 dollars
01:31 < genr8_> i dont think they will
01:31 < genr8_> theres lots of drunk ppl
01:31 < abakedapplepie> rpifan: literally to go camping and watch music
01:31 < abakedapplepie> thats all youre paying for
01:31 < rpifan> sigh
01:31 < rpifan> fucken america
01:31 < abakedapplepie> get drunk man youre supposed to
01:31 < abakedapplepie> but dont be irresponsible
01:31 < abakedapplepie> dont get so drunk you cant walk or dont know where you are
01:32 < abakedapplepie> dont do molly without taking plenty of water
01:32 < rpifan> i could stumble back to my tent
01:32 <+NinjaStyle> thats true in any country
01:32 < rpifan> thats about as drunk as i plan to get
01:32 < genr8_> half the battle is managing your drugs vs time vs events
01:32 < genr8_> the other half is having fun doing it
01:32 < abakedapplepie> ^
01:32 < abakedapplepie> honestly festivals are 75% work
01:32 < abakedapplepie> literally
01:32 < rpifan> sigh
01:33 < rpifan> okechobee was so much better
01:33 < abakedapplepie> keeping my beer cold at bonnaroo was an absolute nightmare
01:33  * SandyTech may have to RIF 25% of his department
01:33 < rpifan> no problems at all
01:33 < abakedapplepie> walk a mile to spenmd $20 on 5 lbs of ice
01:33 < rpifan> we just smoked out in the open
01:33 < genr8_> the good thing is if it gets too much you can just chill at the tent for however long
01:33 < abakedapplepie> walk a mile back you have 1 lb left
01:33 < abakedapplepie> do it again 8 hours later
01:33 < abakedapplepie> :|
01:33 < rpifan> i just cant really
01:33 < rpifan> w/e
01:33 < genr8_> haha yea
01:33 < rpifan> if i dont show back up on irc
01:34 <+NinjaStyle> SandyTech: im sure that wasnt what you were going for at all, but every time i see yuor name i think sandy hook + virginia tech
01:34 < Hunterkll> weeee
01:34 < rpifan> then yall know what happened to me
01:34 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, watch finally on latest version
01:34 < Hunterkll> lol
01:34 < SandyTech> NinjaStyle: lol
01:34 < genr8_> honestly i'd be more worried about the traffic tickets on the drive down tbh lol
01:34 < rpifan> well im not driving this random women is driving
01:35 < SandyTech> Because of the tariffs on steel and aluminuma whole bunch of departments had their budgets taken away
01:35 < SandyTech> including mine
01:35 < rpifan> i wish theyd take the cops budget away
01:35 < rpifan> they seem to be the onyl ones getting more
01:35 < genr8_> theyre not gonna bother 2 women and a guy
01:35 < abakedapplepie> oh god... last time i came back from bonnaroo, a semi lost a tire tread in some of the heaviest rain ive ever experienced
01:35 < abakedapplepie> almost died
01:35 < abakedapplepie> i forgot about that
01:35 < abakedapplepie> :|
01:35 <+NinjaStyle> SandyTech: i'm sure you arent a school shooter though
01:35 < genr8_> gd
01:35 < genr8_> musta blocked it out
01:35 < abakedapplepie> ended up going over the tire tread, not losing control, and losing both bumper covers
01:36 < SandyTech> NinjaStyle: was tempted a couple of times
01:36 <+NinjaStyle> D:
01:36 < abakedapplepie> in heavy traffic no less
01:36  * NinjaStyle calls the feds
01:36 < SandyTech> wheee!
01:36 <+NinjaStyle> whats the feds phone number again?
01:36 < SandyTech> 1800-dumbassesrus?
01:36 < genr8_>  1-800-273-8255
01:36 <+NinjaStyle> 1800 wedafed
01:38 < SandyTech> Toggle head pizza joint! I said *NO* jalapenos... and the assholes put extra instead
01:38 < abakedapplepie> hah
01:38 < abakedapplepie> didnt you hear, its opposite day
01:39 < SandyTech> must be
01:39 < abakedapplepie> also why would you have to say no jalapenos
01:39 < abakedapplepie> wouldnt you just not ask for jalapenos in the first place
01:39 < abakedapplepie> or are you one of those assholes that orders a specialty pizza and makes changes
01:40 < SandyTech> because their fajitas come with jalapenos
01:40 < SandyTech> I don
01:40 < abakedapplepie> oh
01:40 < abakedapplepie> not a pizza
01:40 < abakedapplepie> got it
01:40 < SandyTech> t want jalapenos on my fajitas
01:40 < SandyTech> their salsa has plenty of spicy in it
01:40 < SandyTech> no need for more
01:40 < rpifan> i gues i just see things in my own autistic kinda way
01:41 < rpifan> i paid 300dollars to be left alone
01:41 < rpifan> i really dont care about the events
01:41 < rpifan> or the music
01:41 < abakedapplepie> lol.
01:41 < abakedapplepie> ok dude.
01:41 < rpifan> yes i know most normal ppl dont get it
01:41 < rpifan> but it makes sense to me
01:41 < abakedapplepie> suuuuuuure
01:42 < SandyTech> I've never quite 'got' going to festivals or concerts
01:42 < rpifan> well im only doing this cause i went to oke
01:43 < rpifan> and i had a great time
01:43 < abakedapplepie> i just love music
01:43 < abakedapplepie> and seeing a ton of things i want to see at the same time is great
01:43 < abakedapplepie> plus stuff i would never go see otherwise
01:43 < abakedapplepie> jack johnson roo 08? one of the best live shows ive ever watched in my life
01:43 < abakedapplepie> paul mccartney 2013? holy fuck
01:43 < abakedapplepie> yes please
01:43 < rpifan> i dont really care
01:43 < abakedapplepie> bob dylan 2008
01:43 < rpifan> i want the vibe
01:43 < rpifan> the drugs
01:43 < rpifan> the wild sex
01:43 < rpifan> etc
01:43 < rpifan> thats what im paying 300 dollars for
01:44 < abakedapplepie> no ones having wild sex
01:44 < SandyTech> but then I have to deal with all the people... and people...
01:44 < rpifan> not just fake lip syncing
01:44 < rpifan> i mean most of these people dont perform anything
01:44 < abakedapplepie> and please for the love of fucking shit gods dont go to a festival and start saying "i paid $300 for sex wheres my fucking sex"
01:44 < abakedapplepie> no one owes you shit
01:44 < abakedapplepie> you paid $300 for a music festival
01:44 < abakedapplepie> full stop
01:44 <+NinjaStyle> abakedapplepie: you owe me sex btw
01:44 < rpifan> abakedapplepie, u owe me sex
01:44 < rpifan> gimme
01:44 < rpifan> 300 dollar is 3 hookers
01:45 < rpifan> and good ones too
01:45 < abakedapplepie> id say a majority of the festival sets ive seen from my favorite bands have been some of their best
01:45 < abakedapplepie> ive never seen anyone come out just to pay lip service and get paid
01:45 < abakedapplepie> except kanye
01:45 < abakedapplepie> and he didnt even show up on time
01:46 < rpifan> meh
01:46 < rpifan> at oke it was clear they were all prestaged
01:46 < abakedapplepie> rolled in at 4am, everyone threw mud / horse shit / shoes at his bus
01:46 < SandyTech> lol
01:46 < abakedapplepie> next morning the fence is covered with "fuck kanye" all 2000 feet of it
01:46 < abakedapplepie> it was fantastic
01:46 < SandyTech> He seems like a grade A twat
01:46 < abakedapplepie> this was 10 years ago
01:46 < abakedapplepie> back when he wasnt
01:46 < abakedapplepie> escept he always has been
01:46 < abakedapplepie> he just didnt have the rep
01:47 < rpifan> some come to roo then
01:47 < rpifan> and show me
01:47 < rpifan> all these wonderful
01:47 < rpifan> no sex non drug things
01:47 < rpifan> that i paid 300 dollars for
01:47 < abakedapplepie> again, let me reiterate
01:47 < abakedapplepie> its a music festival
01:47 < abakedapplepie> you paid to go see music
01:48 < rpifan> thats really depressing
01:48 < abakedapplepie> pretty sure it says it right there
01:48 < abakedapplepie> in bold letters
01:48 < rpifan> thought they call it an arts fest now too
01:48 < SandyTech> It's no a drugs and sex festival though
01:48 < abakedapplepie> oh i forgot it is music and arts
01:48 < SandyTech> you need to go to Amsterdam for one o them
01:49 < abakedapplepie> they have some comedians and they do sculptures and shit
01:49 < abakedapplepie> comedians are actually kinda cool
01:49 < rpifan> why isnt it
01:49 < abakedapplepie> but the venues are small and the lines are long for the good acts
01:49 < rpifan> u know
01:49 < SandyTech> Or your nearest dorm building on a Saturday night
01:49 < abakedapplepie> i saw whats his face tho
01:49 < abakedapplepie> never nude
01:49 < rpifan> i really tried to volunteer
01:49 < abakedapplepie> i blue myself
01:49 < abakedapplepie> tobias funke
01:49 < abakedapplepie> whats his name
01:49 < rpifan> i would rather volunteer then anything else
01:49 < abakedapplepie> david
01:49 < abakedapplepie> something
01:49 < rpifan> i get really bored just wathcing music
01:49 < xe0n> cross
01:49 < abakedapplepie> thank you
01:49 < abakedapplepie> david cross
01:49 < abakedapplepie> jesus
01:50 < rpifan> oke was fun cuase i was bartending
01:50 < abakedapplepie> my brain
01:50 < rpifan> and getting wasted
01:50 < rpifan> and smoking some weed
01:50 < rpifan> and watching the music right next to my face
01:50 < abakedapplepie> what a shrewd man
01:50 < abakedapplepie> i didnt know what to make of him after that
01:50 < abakedapplepie> and interviews now he is even odder
01:50 < rpifan> and i had a guy blow me in one of the showers
01:50 < abakedapplepie> its like he is tobias funke in real life in a way
01:51 < SandyTech> <insert pearl clutching here> there's porn on the internet!
01:51 < SandyTech> and employees can watch it!
01:51 < rpifan> i guess i see this is a collective
01:51 < rpifan> a way to challenge social norms
01:51 < rpifan> and create a better society
01:51 < rpifan> through revolution
01:52 < genr8_> nope
01:52 < abakedapplepie> i dont even know what you are talking about
01:52 < genr8_> its a vacation for 4 days
01:52 < rpifan> not much of a vacation if you got horse watching your ass
01:52 < rpifan> might as well stay in the office
01:52 < genr8_> it feels like it could be a new society but it wont be
01:52 < SandyTech> Would it be bad for me to reply to a ticket about employees watching porn on the clock wiht Avenue Q's The Internet Is For Porn?
01:52 < abakedapplepie> lol
01:52 < genr8_> i wish i didnt have to leave roo ever
01:52 < rpifan> lol
01:52 < abakedapplepie> probably
01:52 < genr8_> the drive home is so surreal every time
01:52 < rpifan> but why is it surreal
01:53 < rpifan> if u did no drugs
01:53 < abakedapplepie> genr8_: imagine driving 14 hours after :|
01:53 < rpifan> and it isnt a new society
01:53 < abakedapplepie> every time
01:53 < abakedapplepie> its awful
01:53 < rpifan> if its just the same thing
01:53 < genr8_> I never that.
01:53 < rpifan> as the outside
01:53 < genr8_> i never said that
01:53 < SandyTech> they're not even watching it on our network. Not like I can do anything about it in the first place
01:53 < abakedapplepie> rpifan: when you leave your whole brain is buzzing, you go from being wayyyy overstimulated 24/7 to suddenly crashing back to normal
01:53 < abakedapplepie> its like coming down off an acid trip
01:54 < abakedapplepie> it feels surreal
01:54 < abakedapplepie> if you can get past being completely exhausted
01:54 < genr8_> i never said dont do drugs
01:54 <+NinjaStyle> do all the drugs
01:54 <+NinjaStyle> at the same time
01:54 < abakedapplepie> SandyTech if its not on your network how do you know
01:54 <+NinjaStyle> as much as you can fit in your mouth
01:55 < rpifan> yes
01:55 < rpifan> agreed
01:55 < rpifan> death before surrender
01:55 < SandyTech> abakedapplepie: someone caught them watching porn on their cell phone & rubbing one out in the lockers. And they're assuming that it was on our network
01:55 < abakedapplepie> hah
01:56 <+NinjaStyle> lol
01:56 < abakedapplepie> hey if it keeps moreale up and doesnt cause productivity issues
01:56 < abakedapplepie> let them jack off
01:57 < SandyTech> that's what I said. Not on the corporate network, not my problem
01:58 < SandyTech> I can't wait for the inevitable men only HR seminar about having a tug at work
01:58 < rpifan> but is he hot
01:58 < rpifan> and why do u have lockers
01:59 < SandyTech> manufacturing shop. Most of the guys spend 10ish hours on the shop floor sweating their nards off. The company provides coveralls for everyone to wear
01:59 < rpifan> i see
01:59 < rpifan> so problaby good looking muscular sweaty guys
01:59 < rpifan> sounds like my dream job
01:59 < SandyTech> if you're into that, sure
02:00 < rpifan> sounds great
02:04 < SandyTech> Oh goody, nobody else is in the office
02:04  * SandyTech cranks speakers up & starts Blasting Unleash the Archers
02:04 < abakedapplepie> SandyTech: better go rub one out
02:05 < abakedapplepie> you should install cumboxes in the locker room
02:05 < SandyTech> nah, playtime is this weekend. Got new ropes & a vibrator to try out on the wife
02:05 < abakedapplepie> lol
02:06 < rpifan> oh so ur a bottom SandyTech
02:06 < SandyTech> um no.
02:08 < SandyTech> I am certainly not the sub in our relationship
02:08 < rpifan> i see
02:08 < rpifan> so ur one of them modern str8 couples
02:12 < MillerBoss> No, I will make you a cake.
02:12 < MillerBoss> s/ll/ll not
02:12 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss] No, I will not make you a cake.
02:12 < SandyTech> and SCOTUS says that's okay
02:13 < SandyTech> not that I'd go to bigotry cake shop any more than I eat at bigotry chicken
02:16 < SandyTech> Has anyone else had problems with Exchange 2013 not letting you edit EAPs in anything but IE?
02:16 < rpifan> i hate them gay cakes
02:19 < BytesAndCoffee> rpifan: s/hate/fucking love/
02:19 < BytesAndCoffee> rpifan: s/hate/fucking love
02:19 < BytesAndCoffee> gfd l8
02:19 < hello_kitty> (newbie, ansible) is my yaml syntax wrong for tasks? https://bpaste.net/show/8d3a32da25f4  error is just the very first task line
02:20 <+layer-eight> * hello_kitty →  show at bpaste
02:20 < hello_kitty> it gives me an error about using get_url (which isnt on that line).. not sure if it is serious or if my general yaml syntax is incorrect
02:21 <+NinjaStyle> this dude in #otherchannel is totally a fed and is upset that i was talking shit
02:21 < MillerBoss> Cool.
02:22 <+NinjaStyle> eat shit MillerBoss
02:22 < MillerBoss> Is he gonna look for you at  192.168.0.1 ?
02:23 < MillerBoss> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nlHpdVk2/Screen%20Shot%202018-06-04%20at%207.23.33%20PM.png
02:23 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 10,925 bytes
02:24 < MillerBoss> Since ^
02:24 <+NinjaStyle> no, he's not a child
02:25 < MillerBoss> Well why did he get up set then?
02:27 < hello_kitty> if ansible has an error with a play.. is it going to cite the line that caused the error in a sane way? my errors are always on "- name: something"  -- does that mean the error is in that name block, or just that im bad at yaml?
02:27 < Hunterkll> it means you need better choices in broadway selections
02:27 < rpifan> i do
02:27 < rpifan> im not into forcing ppl to make gay things
02:28 < genr8_> make sure you go to roo and dont wuss out , its gonna be great, i promise
02:29 < rpifan> are shrooms ok first drugs?
02:31 < rpifan> just an eye droppers worth probably
02:31 < rpifan> the idea isnt to get fucked up on drugs
02:32 < genr8_> yea
02:32 < rpifan> just  a tiny head buzz is what im after
02:32 < genr8_> get the shrooms  early on day 1 cause theyll sell out by the end
02:33 < rpifan> i got a wook i know that has drugs
02:33 < rpifan> he said he brings stuff to flip
02:33 < genr8_> drugs are gonna get harder and harder to find as the weekend goes on. you have to do your best scrambling as soon as you get there or day 1 before nighttime at least
02:33 < genr8_> saturday daytime is ok too but
02:33 < rpifan> but that is concerning if he dirty then wont i be held liable
02:33 < genr8_> friday i mean
02:34 < genr8_> what
02:34 < genr8_> no, you're not him
02:34 < rpifan> if the cops raid us
02:34 < rpifan> and he has drugs
02:34 < rpifan> and im quit him
02:34 < rpifan> both to jail
02:34 < genr8_> dont get caught lacking
02:34 < Hunterkll> i'm an idiot
02:34 < rpifan> what do you mean
02:34 < Hunterkll> i ordered a bottle opener
02:35 < Hunterkll> i need a can opener
02:35 < Hunterkll> easy mistake to make for something i haven't done in 7 years
02:35 < Hunterkll> but still
02:35 < rpifan> i ordered military style can openers
02:35 < rpifan> work great
02:35 < genr8_> dont go walking around with a ton of drugs. you should be ready to have whatever on you confiscated at any point
02:35 < Hunterkll> bottle openers don't work too great for opening rolls of film
02:35 < Hunterkll> lol
02:35 < SandyTech> nah
02:35 < rpifan> i mean i wont have drugs on me
02:35 < rpifan> why would i
02:36 < Hunterkll> because drugs are currency you fuckin idiot
02:36 < rpifan> r they?
02:36 < rpifan> unless drugs are gonna get me sex im not interested in anything more then a few drops of w.e
02:36 < SandyTech> fuck dude, of course they are. In certain communities, fucking tide detergent is!
02:37 < Hunterkll> ....
02:37 < Hunterkll> rpifan, having the right kind of drugs to exchange for sex can be a thing
02:37 < Hunterkll> ... of course, having the right kind of drugs can guarantee sex too...
02:37 < rpifan> hmm
02:37 < genr8_> stick to ones for yourself
02:37 < rpifan> well i dont plan to carry
02:37 < nohusuro> morning o7
02:37 < rpifan> but the wook guy he has all the drugs
02:37 < rpifan> i plan to use him as a pawn
02:38 < genr8_> everyone is a pawn, you just meet random ppl all week, everyone has diff stuff
02:38 < rpifan> hmm
02:38 < rpifan> well he has already decided that is going to sleep in my tent with me
02:38 < rpifan> so he'd better bring me a boy or something
02:38 < genr8_> youll be lucky if you see that wook more than 20% of the time
02:38 < enix> ...
02:38 < enix> wtfs a wook
02:39 < genr8_> male hippie
02:39 < enix> riight
02:39 < enix> and rpifan wants to get mad ripped on varying drugs and sodomize a young boy?
02:39 < genr8_> look in urban dictionary
02:39  * enix is playing catchup
02:39 < rpifan> lol
02:39 < rpifan> ketchup is best
02:39 < genr8_> i feel like he has warped expectations of the sex aspect
02:39 < rpifan> is that so?
02:39 < rpifan> well i was at oke
02:39 < rpifan> and i saw a str8 couple fuck
02:39 < Hunterkll> enix, you pretty much have the right of it
02:39 < rpifan> and that was great
02:40 < enix> Hunterkll: I think I spend too much time in this channel
02:40 < enix> Hunterkll: also; MPT cert with omega renewal
02:40 < genr8_> you dont need to catch up ;p
02:40 < enix> So doing six months for +2 mptc, because ir eally want that
02:40 < Hunterkll> enix, MPT?
02:40 < rpifan> well i guess ive heard things abour other fests
02:40 < rpifan> and ass eating contests and such
02:40 < SandyTech> *blink*
02:41 < rpifan> so what will this wook be doing the other 80 percent of the time
02:42 < enix> multi pilot training cert
02:42 < mal_will> I had to double check the channel I popped into
02:43 < SandyTech> getting screwed, blued and tatooed most likely
02:43 < mal_will> Man, wooks can really make a show weird
02:43 < SandyTech> enix: you trying for an APT?
02:43 < SandyTech> *ATP
02:43 < enix> APT?
02:43  * enix is still relatively green
02:43 < rpifan> sudo apt install shrooms
02:43 < SandyTech> lol
02:43 < rpifan> sudo apt purge theLaw*
02:44 < SandyTech> Airline Transport Pilot
02:44 < enix> oh
02:44 < enix> ]No this is in eve online
02:44 < SandyTech> *blink* ah, nevermind lol
02:44 < SandyTech> never got into that game
02:44 < enix> But a free IPL would be nice
02:44 < rpifan> at least ill always have my poorly done tie dye
02:44 < enix> SandyTech: hook a brother up
02:44 < rpifan> it came out ok but i didnt use enough paint
02:45 < rpifan> its got lots of white left
02:46 < xe0n> i got some wicked weed last night
02:46 < rpifan> lol
02:46 < rpifan> no drugs
02:46 < rpifan> its all about the music and arts man
02:46 < rpifan> ok
02:47 < rpifan> thats what you paid for
02:47 < SandyTech> enix: my wife is a CFII, she could be convinced to get you to at least an instrument pilot's license
02:47 < Hunterkll> fuck taht
02:47 < Hunterkll> get a light sport
02:47 < Hunterkll> ez mode :P
02:47 < SandyTech> too right LOL
02:47 < enix> Where are you located SandyTech
02:48 < SandyTech> southern Florida
02:48 < enix> SandyTech: Can she swing by and pick me up in Sydney? haha
02:49 < SandyTech> Probably, though I don't think any of the bug smashers for rent here abouts quite have the range to make that jaunt
02:50 < enix> I should make it a point to get my recreational license
02:51 < enix> I'll settle on having two eve characters will skills queues for the mean time though
02:51 < SandyTech> There was a Falcon 7 that was being repo'd taking up a massive amount of space over in the far corner of the field though
02:51 < xe0n> yippe ki yay mrrr falcon
02:52 < SandyTech> that thing was in *bad* shape.
02:52 < rpifan> me too
02:52 < rpifan> SandyTech, lets go to roo
02:52 < enix> AnimalFarmPig: how bad :P
02:52 < SandyTech> it was growing moss, all the tires were flat, and I'm pretty sure at least one engine had been stolen
02:52 < enix> wtf
02:52 < enix> s/AnimalFarmPig/Sandytech
02:52 <+layer-eight> [SED enix] Sandytech: how bad :P
02:52 < enix> LOL
02:52 < enix> Thats fucked yeah
02:53 < Hunterkll> whew
02:53 < Hunterkll> I still got it!
02:53 < enix> mct?
02:53 < Hunterkll> enix, and for a light sport all ya need basically is a valid drivers license
02:53 < enix> in your country maybe
02:53 < Hunterkll> enix, no, the ability to crack open a 35mm film canister, crank it onto a spool, and light proof it, blind inside a changing bag
02:53 < Hunterkll> lol
02:53 < Hunterkll> into a developing tank
02:54 < enix> huuh
02:54 < SandyTech> and I'm fairly certain it was legit stolen too lol, one weekend the starboard engine nacelle was just randomly empty, and the weekend before it wasn't
02:54 < Hunterkll> SandyTech, maybe the guy had 2 and was saving on maint and was letting the fukt one get repod
02:54 < Hunterkll> :D
02:54 < Hunterkll> that had to be a shitty repo if it can't even fly
02:54 < Hunterkll> lol
02:54 < SandyTech> true lol
02:55 < SandyTech> the guys at the FBO said eventually they pulled the wings off of it and loaded it on a couple of flatbeds to cart away to be scrapped
02:56 < Hunterkll> ive seen enough history channel to know the repos are supposed to fly it away
02:56 < Hunterkll> duhhh
02:56 < Hunterkll> especially while the owners are running after them and shooting
02:56 < SandyTech> There was a certain amount of suspicion that it was involved in the Square Grouper trade
02:57 < Hunterkll> lol
02:57 < Hunterkll> i'd be involved in that too if i could find some
02:57 < SandyTech> fuck, I grew up about 30 minutes from one of their main runways in the early 90s.
02:58 < SandyTech> Mosquito control would come flying over with their 5 DC-3s in a big flying vee formation at about 100' AGL.
02:58 < SandyTech> trailing fog and smoke and waking the world up.
02:59 < SandyTech> and then 35 minutes later you'd hear the much smaller engines of a v-tailed doctor killer or some other medium ranged prop or turboprop
03:00 < SandyTech> and then about 20 minutes after that,they'd come scud running back along
03:01 < SandyTech> was great fun. One of the crazy rednecks swore the little prop planes were activating the mind control juice dumped by the mosquito control flight
03:12 < Hunterkll> is anyone gonna point out that apple's copying microsoft names now?
03:12 < Hunterkll> OS X Mojave?
03:12 < Hunterkll> What about.... Windows Mojave
03:12 < Hunterkll> aka Vista SP1 :P
03:12 <+TuxedoJack> God fucking dammit
03:12 < SandyTech> lol
03:12 <+TuxedoJack> Why do you bring up bad memories
03:12 < Hunterkll> Vista was fine if you didn't have retarded hardware
03:12 < Hunterkll> 7 didn't really feel like much of an upgrade at all
03:12 < Hunterkll> maybe just a bit more polish
03:13 < Hunterkll> and lessUAC prompts
03:13 < Hunterkll> taht's about it
03:13 < SandyTech> yeah
03:14 < Hunterkll> "I was at one of two local lesbian bars last week for drag bingo. It's got country flair and sometimes line dancing. These two small town looking cowboys walk in and sit at the bar next to me. They seemed confused and I realized they are probably new to town and googled "country bar." They grabbed bingo cards and hung out for a while though...
03:14 < Hunterkll> "
03:14 < Hunterkll> lol
03:16 < SandyTech> *blink*  LOL
03:17 < packeteer> hello_kitty: I think you have a syntax error
03:17 < hello_kitty> packeteer: turns out its get_url: as a section, and then inside of it url, dest
03:18 < packeteer> yup
03:18 < packeteer> it's been a while since I wrote any ansible, so was going through old code
03:19 < packeteer> Hunterkll: used to do that on the reg. worked in a photo shop for 3 years. I got good with my hands in the dark :lol:
03:20 < Hunterkll> haha
03:20 < Hunterkll> packeteer, i haven't done it in like 5-7 years
03:20 < Hunterkll> lol
03:20 < Hunterkll> still got it just fine though
03:20 < Hunterkll> should get started on this
03:20 <+NinjaStyle> I want a tablet with an OLED screen
03:20 < packeteer> Hunterkll: 20 years for me :)
03:20 < Hunterkll> lol
03:20 < hello_kitty> i don't understand ansible roles.. but i kinda thing what im making is going to use them
03:20 < Hunterkll> packeteer, i'm going loaded for bear this coming weekend
03:20 < rpifan> so if your a manchester local u get staff bands for free
03:21 < rpifan> i wonder if i should buy a small plot of land
03:21 <+NinjaStyle> Always
03:21 < packeteer> Hunterkll: nice. gl hf etc
03:22 < packeteer> I was terrible as a "tog". forgot all the rules once I was behind the lense
03:22 < packeteer> but I was good at processing the results :)
03:22 <+NinjaStyle> The iPad isn't OLED right?
03:22 < packeteer> NinjaStyle: correct
03:22 <+NinjaStyle> Fak
03:23 < packeteer> only the iphoneX is oled
03:23 <+NinjaStyle> My tablet has horrible contrast
03:23 < BytesAndCoffee> iOS 12 hype traiiiinnnnn
03:23 < hello_kitty> packeteer: when you break tasks into different files.. do you just start them with name?
03:24 < packeteer> hello_kitty: layout was like: roles/bitbucket/tasks/main.yml
03:24 < packeteer> and then a top level bitbucket.yml that calls that role
03:25 < Hunterkll> packeteer, 3x Ilford HP5 36exp, 8x Kodak Portra 400 36exp, 3x Kodak Portra 800 36exp, 2x Kodak Tri-X 400TX 24exp, 2x CineStill 800Tungsten 36exp, 1x Arista EDU Ultra 100 24exp, 1x Foma Fomapan 400 24exp, 1x Holga 400 24exp, 1x Kodak Ektar 100 36exp
03:25 < Hunterkll> I think I got every situation covered
03:25 < Hunterkll> ;)
03:25 < packeteer> Hunterkll: omg!!
03:25 < Hunterkll> My EOS-50e broke (film door won't close anymore :'( ) in chicago after 7 rolls at that convention two weeks ago
03:25 < Hunterkll> so i got an EOS-3 to replace it
03:25 < Hunterkll> :>
03:26 < packeteer> wow
03:26 < Hunterkll> Want a 1V but they're like $600+ for good ebay ones, and $2000+ for brand new ones
03:26 < Hunterkll> packeteer, the wow was my backup body. a goddamn Rebel G
03:26 < Hunterkll> lolol
03:26 < packeteer> you can prob get the 50 repaired
03:26 < Hunterkll> a good working 50e is $40-60 on ebay
03:26 < Hunterkll> lol
03:26 < Hunterkll> no point
03:26 < hello_kitty> and then do I make things like patch-os.yml, setup-nodejs.yml, setup-nginx.yml, upload-and-restart-app.yml ..?
03:26 < Hunterkll> so i just upgraded to a -3
03:26 < packeteer> heh, so not worth it really
03:26 < Hunterkll> yea, and that has like 3 point AF
03:26 < hello_kitty> and putting all those together is a deployment or something
03:26 < Hunterkll> the -3 has the 45 point system
03:27 < Hunterkll> packeteer, fun fact - the 3 was the first with E-TTL and the 45 point AF, which was not seen again on a non-1 series camera until the ... 5D Mark III
03:27 < packeteer> I used a Nikon FE2 heavily back in the day. loved that body. mostly manual though
03:27 < Hunterkll> I'd like a Canon F-1 as a toy
03:28 < Hunterkll> it's fully automatic
03:28 < Hunterkll> till the battery dies
03:28 < Hunterkll> then you just use the film winder
03:28 < enix> hello_kitty: ansible roles are handy
03:29 < Hunterkll> packeteer, eventually i'm going to get a 1V and use the 3 as a backup body. I got a hell of a deal on the -3 too. $200 intead of the usual $350+ it goes for. the back dial didn't work ...... .... or so the seller said. until i reset all the custom function settings. :P
03:29 < packeteer> Hunterkll: oh wow, fe2's still fetch near $200 on ebay
03:30 < hello_kitty> I'm not sure how to lay things out.. the 2 things i am trying to do are first time server setup, and then publishing new code to a server. I'd also hypothetically want to be able to patch nginx and change its config or something, but I'm not going to premptively write a play for that.
03:30 < Hunterkll> An EOS-3 will run $300+ - normally $350+ for a decent condition kit
03:30 < hello_kitty> Is first time deployment vs update a server done via roles? or are those just two playbooks
03:30 < Hunterkll> EOS-3 can be had as low as $250 for good kit with decent functionality
03:30 < enix> hello_kitty: That's where you get into 'defining' your system i find. So I would have a group of hosts that run redhat, with configs I need to apply, so I would create a 'standard' role for things like configuring ssh access, disabling firewall and configuring snmp, then a 'redhat' role for registering with satelite and whatever other rhel things i need
03:30 < Hunterkll> EOS-1V in good condition - you aren't going below $600 for a good one
03:30 < Hunterkll> and new in box ones that were sold this year are like $2000+
03:30 < enix> hello_kitty: then you would have a 'web server' role where you would deploy and configuring apache/nginx/php/etc
03:30 < Hunterkll> packeteer, canon officially end of sales'd the EOS-1V on the 31st of last month :P
03:31 < Hunterkll> the fact that they were selling it 8 years past the last time they actually manufactured any is hilarious
03:31 < enix> My main playbook is then nice and clean because it's solely a definition of roles per group/machine
03:31 < packeteer> enix | hello_kitty: ansible roles are handy  <--
03:31 < Hunterkll> they stopped manufacturing the 1V in 2010
03:31 < Hunterkll> :D
03:31 < packeteer> Hunterkll: I was never a Canon fanboi in the film days, but they've taken over now
03:31 < enix> hello_kitty: so instead of having an ansible playbook for deploying all your configs etc yo uwould just have a playbook for defining roles, then you would have all your config neatly laid out in your roles
03:31 < Hunterkll> pfff
03:31 < Hunterkll> ive been canon for the 20 years ive been doing this
03:31 < Hunterkll> fuk nikon
03:32 < hello_kitty> what does the smallest unit of config look like?
03:32 < Hunterkll> nikon is for thai ladybois
03:32 < packeteer> heathen!!
03:32 < enix> hello_kitty: give me a tick
03:32 < Hunterkll> and nowadays it's for people who like inferior censors
03:32 < Hunterkll> sensors
03:32 < Hunterkll> I am going to get a Canon 1D X Mark II
03:32 <@killdash9>  getting into a 'my thing is better than your choice of things' battle is for ladybois
03:32 < Hunterkll> it's the first digital that actually spanks film in every metric
03:33 < enix> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-ansible-roles-to-abstract-your-infrastructure-environment
03:33 <+layer-eight> * enix →  How to Use Ansible Roles to Abstract your Infrastructure Environment | DigitalOcean
03:33 < enix> decent guide hello_kitty
03:33 < Hunterkll> then i'll actually be able to do digital instead of guarding my 5D Mk III like it's the baby jesus
03:33 < hello_kitty> thanks
03:33 < Hunterkll> so i'll run with the 1D X Mk II and the 5D as digital backup, and 1V with the 3 backup as film loadout
03:33 < Hunterkll> it'll be nice
03:33 < packeteer> hello_kitty: my top level looks like this: ansible.cfg   bitbucket.yml dev           prod          roles
03:33 < Hunterkll> YAML
03:33 < Hunterkll> because Perl was too readable
03:34 <@killdash9> yaml, because tabs made too much sense.
03:34 < packeteer> hello_kitty: and the dev / prod dirs only hold inventory and vars files
03:34 < Hunterkll> cobol on wheelchair, because even killdash9 should be able to make a website http://adrianzandberg.pl/cobol-on-wheelchair/
03:34 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  COBOL on Wheelchair
03:35 < hello_kitty> so is something like this appropriate for my smallest unit of config>? https://bpaste.net/show/67f0b442d533
03:35  * killdash9 is pretty sure he made websites while many people here were still shitting their diapers. :P
03:35 <+layer-eight> * hello_kitty →  show at bpaste
03:35 < Hunterkll> <3
03:35 < hello_kitty> just a single task
03:35 < Hunterkll> killdash9, maybe on non-http stuff...
03:35 < Hunterkll> lol
03:35 < Hunterkll> pretty sure by 3-4 you mostly stop the self-shitting
03:36 < Hunterkll> and I know you weren't making web sites in '89
03:36 < Hunterkll> since WWW hadn't been invented yet
03:36 < enix> hello_kitty: https://pastebin.com/VHPNzD2S
03:36 <+layer-eight> * enix →  [enix@d ansible]$ ls  ansible.cfg  hosts  playbooks  roles  [enix@d ansible]$ ls - Pastebin.com
03:36 <@killdash9> I said 'many' not all
03:36 < Hunterkll> :P
03:36 < enix> hello_kitty: yeah
03:36 < enix> That code is fine
03:38 < hello_kitty> thanks that helps a lot... now much work to do
03:38 <@killdash9> my very first atttempt at html uncovered a pretty large security bug in NCSA HTTPd at the time. Good times.
03:39 < Hunterkll> lol
03:39 < BytesAndCoffee> killdash9: how do you expose a security bug...via html
03:39 <@JollyRgrs> BytesAndCoffee: back in 1927, it was possible
03:39 <@cryptic1> BytesAndCoffee, html had just been created at that time
03:39 < BytesAndCoffee> aside from writing a page
03:39 < BytesAndCoffee> JollyRgrs: 1927?
03:39  * JollyRgrs facepalms
03:40 <@JollyRgrs> BytesAndCoffee: did you hear that jumbojet?
03:40 <@JollyRgrs> cryptic1:
03:40 <@JollyRgrs> killdash9:
03:40 <@JollyRgrs> c'mon
03:40 <@cryptic1> what
03:40 < BytesAndCoffee> what jumbojet
03:40 <@killdash9> it's been so damn long ago I'm trying to remember exactly. It allowed you to get into the filesystem and read any users files
03:40 <@cryptic1> wooooooooooooooosh
03:40 <@JollyRgrs> play
03:40 <@killdash9> something in the way I named a .html file
03:40 <@cryptic1> I am busy listening to killdash9's story
03:40 < enix> Never seen so many ops comment at once..
03:40 <@JollyRgrs> did you name it ..html?
03:41 <@killdash9> I think I had a '~' or something in a file name?
03:41 < JollyRgrs> that better?
03:41 < enix> JollyRgrs: not complaining :)
03:41 < JollyRgrs> like what comcast used to give me for my 5mb "homepage" ?
03:41 < enix> +o yourself, it's weird now :P
03:41 < JollyRgrs> comcast.net/~username
03:41 < JollyRgrs> lol
03:41 < JollyRgrs> no
03:41 <@killdash9> yeah, but before ISPs let you do that shit. 94ish
03:42 < genr8_> long gone
03:42 < JollyRgrs> so they just turned a bug into a feature
03:42 <@killdash9> but you could read any users' files whether they wanted to share or not
03:42 <+NinjaStyle> Eastern time sucks
03:42 <+NinjaStyle> You nerds
03:43 < packeteer> UTC 4 lyfe
03:44 < packeteer> dammit, where is my script for listing all AWS ip's for our infra
03:44 <+NinjaStyle> packeteer: send it over
03:44 <+NinjaStyle> I need
03:50 < JollyRgrs> ugh
03:51 < JollyRgrs> i dunno if it is my keyboard or USB ports...
03:51 < JollyRgrs> but something is going bad
03:52 < JollyRgrs> and i have to restart to make it work (unplugging/re-plugging doesn't cut it)
03:54 < packeteer> NinjaStyle: aws ec2 describe-network-interfaces | jq ".NetworkInterfaces[].Association.PublicIp" | sed 's/\"//g'
03:56 < packeteer> NinjaStyle: it's not perfect, but mostly works
03:57 <+NinjaStyle> Ah nice. I'm trying to slowly build an aws security assessment methodology
03:57 < packeteer> same same
04:04 < rpifan> hmm
04:04 < rpifan> genr8_,
04:04 < rpifan> whats ur most favoriate drugs
04:05 < Alternity> whats the deal with people asking for recipes on common dishes? https://www.reddit.com/r/food/comments/8ojgvy/homemade_duck_pad_see_ew/
04:05 <+layer-eight> * Alternity →  [Homemade] Duck Pad See Ew : food
04:05 < Alternity> just google it ya fucks
04:06 < packeteer> *rtfm*
04:07 < Hunterkll> mmmm
04:07 < Hunterkll> dat film pre-wash
04:11 < sammm> god damnit, I am *this* close to getting an ELK log server set up, it will provide HUGE insight to all departments, etc
04:11 < sammm> just got told that our programmers "won't be able to see what they're used to seeing"
04:11 < packeteer> NinjaStyle: different version: aws ec2 describe-network-interfaces |grep PublicIp | sort -u | cut -d : -f 2 | tr -d \"
04:11 < sammm> and that now we need to just ship over logs to a NAS
04:11 < sammm> and share that to everyone
04:11 < sammm> :^)
04:11 < sammm> and "that" will be our log server
04:12 < packeteer> gawd
04:12 < rpifan> atm company has no centralized logging service
04:12 < rpifan> what can i annoy them to get
04:12 < rpifan> to centralize it
04:12 < packeteer> ELK or Greylog would be perfect fit
04:12 < rpifan> today there was angry chatter on slack
04:12 < rpifan> caus eapaprently the logs were eating up to much disk space
04:13 < rpifan> and they should no longer log at the level
04:13 < rpifan> they were
04:13 < packeteer> just take a days worth of loks and put into a container of ELK / Greylog. should take only an hour to do
04:13 < packeteer> loks/logs/
04:14 < rpifan> i wanted to get a backup of a db table
04:14 < rpifan> and one of our senior devs
04:14 < rpifan> didnt know how to use mysqldump
04:14 < rpifan> he was like uh how do i use mysqlworkbench
04:14 < rpifan> im like i sent u the command
04:14 < rpifan> he is like but idk how to use the terminal
04:14 < packeteer> lol
04:16 < rpifan> so instead he pulled all the records from the db and sent them to me in a text file and said here build a new table
04:17 < rpifan> it ended up working for my purposes but its kinda ridiculous
04:17 < rpifan> im like if i can dump a mysql db then surely u can too
04:18 < sammm> never assume anything
04:18 < sammm> is what i've learnt
04:18 < sammm> even if they area senior programmer
04:19 < rpifan> yea i kept thinking well maybe his skills are else where
04:19 < rpifan> trying to be nice
04:19 < rpifan> he isnt a sys admin etc
04:20 < packeteer> NinjaStyle: hmm, that last string still has dupes, but they're easy to remove in vim
04:21 < rpifan> yall so what is the difference between an infrastructure manager and the senior sysadmin
04:21 < packeteer> any role with "manager" usually means less technical / more hands off
04:22 < rpifan> believe it or not the tech support lead, my boss, came in asking that same question to me today
04:22 < packeteer> similar with "senior", though that depends on the org
04:22 < rpifan> and i was like huh idk
04:23 < xe0n> im señor
04:23 < rpifan> ur the senior sys admin right?
04:23 < sammm> senor sys admin
04:23 < packeteer> rpifan: lets define "devops". hahahahaha
04:23 < rpifan> i like the ops part not the devs
04:24 < Hunterkll> DevOops?
04:25 < sammm> ^
04:26 < xe0n> correcto
04:26 < rpifan> xe0n, what do you look for in a junior PFY admin
04:26 < xe0n> initiative
04:26 < rpifan> you mena like me fixing all of our dbs
04:26 < rpifan> even low im a tech support guy
04:27 < rpifan> or writing script s to automate our tasks
04:27 < rpifan> or building a script for a different department to process csv files
04:27 < packeteer> initiative and a desire to learn > *
04:27 < packeteer> at any level
04:27 < rpifan> or trying to get twilio acounts to create 2fa where it doesnt exist
04:27 < sammm> > * is great haha
04:27 < rpifan> all in less then a month
04:29 < packeteer> afk, lunch
04:31 < xe0n> yeah im hungry too
04:32 < Hunterkll> aaaand the developer has been poured in
04:32 < Hunterkll> :o
04:32 < sammm> okay, i need to implement this new "log server" idea for the COO, what is the *best* way to sync log files to a centralised file share?
04:32 < sammm> whats important to manglement is that the file structure of hte logs are kept
04:33 < Hunterkll> .....?
04:33 < Hunterkll> #1 - centralized logging is critical to a good security opeartion
04:33 < Hunterkll> #2 - lol file structure
04:33 < sammm> i know i know
04:33 < sammm> can you come to melbourne australia and speak some sense into these people?
04:33 < Hunterkll> shit wheres my funel
04:33 < Hunterkll> ok there it is
04:33 < Hunterkll> i'm on a timer right now
04:33 < Hunterkll> lol
04:33 < Hunterkll> cant lose the funnel
04:33 < xe0n> sammm: where in melb?
04:34 < sammm> and they said that "freeware" isnt very good and we should look at splunk
04:34 < sammm> but splunk is too expensive
04:34 < sammm> so
04:34 < Hunterkll> lol
04:34 < sammm> lets justcopy log files
04:34 < Hunterkll> alienvault
04:34 < Hunterkll> :P
04:34 < sammm> hawthorn
04:34 < Hunterkll> windows only?
04:34 < xe0n> haha
04:34 < Hunterkll> or do you have linux
04:34 < Hunterkll> if you only have winodws, this is super easy to solve
04:34 < Hunterkll> for servers
04:34 < sammm> there are some linux servers, but they arent "important"
04:34 < sammm> its just windows
04:34 < sammm> (nothing is AD bound btw)
04:34 < Hunterkll> sammm, you could just set up event forwarding subscriptions and have a windows server receive all of them
04:34 < Hunterkll> :p
04:35 < sammm> hmm
04:35 < Hunterkll> google "windows event forwarding"
04:35 < sammm> reading an article as we speak
04:36 < sammm> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/jepayne/2015/11/23/monitoring-what-matters-windows-event-forwarding-for-everyone-even-if-you-already-have-a-siem/
04:36 <+layer-eight> * sammm →  Monitoring what matters – Windows Event Forwarding for everyone (even if you already have a SIEM.) – Security Stuff
04:36 < Hunterkll> looks good
04:36 < Hunterkll> should meet your checkboxes
04:36 < sammm> thanks Hunterkll , i'll get reading
04:36 < Hunterkll> they all stay in event viewer
04:37 < Hunterkll> :P
04:37 < Hunterkll> stop bath time
04:40 < Hunterkll> and fixer time
04:47 < sideup66> Windows 10 spring update
04:47 < sideup66> E n t e r p r i s e
04:47 < sideup66> R e a d y
04:47 < sideup66> Update to new version
04:47 < sideup66> Breaks brightness control on a thinkpad
04:47 < sideup66> Gg
04:48 < MillerBoss> gG
04:49 < SleePy> 1803?
04:49 < JollyRgrs> SleePy: i found your problem
04:49 < JollyRgrs> err, sideup66
04:49 < JollyRgrs> sideup66: know what the problem is?
04:49 < sideup66> Wut
04:49 < JollyRgrs> lenovo
04:49 < JollyRgrs> their drivers suuuuuuuuuck so bad
04:49 < sideup66> JollyRgrs: it's a thinkpad thpugh
04:49 < SleePy> Thanks, didn't know i had one!
04:49 < sideup66> Old 410
04:49 < rpifan> bad devs bad
04:50 < RustyFranks> evening all
04:50 < JollyRgrs> sideup66: that's still lenovo
04:50 < sideup66> I love the thing, it's like a friggin Toyota tbh
04:50 < JollyRgrs> i don't understand the loyalty to thinkpads lasting
04:50 < JollyRgrs> dells last just as long
04:50 < JollyRgrs> so have HP and ASUS for me personally
04:50 < JollyRgrs> why? b/c i don't drop mine from 3 stories high onto the parking lot
04:50 <+NinjaStyle> Dell > Lenovo imo
04:50 < JollyRgrs> ^^^^
04:51 < rpifan> hi
04:51 <+NinjaStyle> Hi
04:51 < rpifan> RustyFranks, what do u do
04:51 < rpifan> what kind of computer r u
04:51 < JollyRgrs> emachine
04:52 < SleePy> gateway
04:52 < rpifan> lol
04:52 < sideup66> Nah
04:52 < sideup66> The thing was bought secondhand from ebay
04:52 < sideup66> Stupid cheap
04:52 < sideup66> Reliable af
04:52 < sideup66> Parts cheap
04:52 < sideup66> Easy as fuck to fix
04:53 < sideup66> Fucking toyota
04:53 < MillerBoss> Packard Bell
04:53 < sideup66> Fuuuuck
04:53 < sideup66> It's a driver in the new win10
04:54 < sideup66> This shit isn't ready
04:54 < sideup66> Old 1709 didn't do this...
04:54 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ocE12lWOs
04:54 <+layer-eight> * rpifan →  YouTube → Pet Shop Boys 'Integral' (album version - rare video) → ⚘ 41,305 ↑ 369 ↓ 2 ✍ 41
04:54 < Hunterkll> w00t
04:54 < Hunterkll> sideup66, T410 was way after the lenovo buyout and when lenovo was turning shit
04:54 < sideup66> MillerBoss: what about Packard bell
04:54 < Hunterkll> actually, the 2nd line of thinkpads after the lenovo buyout was when they were already going to shit
04:54 < Hunterkll> T61 is the best thinkpad though
04:54 < Hunterkll> P3 booya
04:54 < Hunterkll> you can hammer a nail with it
04:54 < Hunterkll> :D
04:55 < MillerBoss> Thats the computer RustyFranks is, sideup66
04:55 < RustyFranks> i'm confused now
04:56 < MillerBoss> Join the club RustyFranks
04:57 < sideup66> But in any case Hunterkll this is a windows 10 fail
04:57 < xe0n> i've got a t41 with os/2 in the cupboard at home lol
04:57 < JollyRgrs> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/everyone-complaining-about-microsoft-buying-github-needs-to-offer-a-better-solution/
04:57 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  Everyone complaining about Microsoft buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution | Ars Technica
04:57 < xe0n> runs warp 3 connect like a boss
04:57 < sideup66> Can't control my brightness at all
04:57 < sideup66> Stuck on max.
04:57 < xe0n> fully supported, space ship sounds and all
04:57 < Hunterkll> sideup66, it's one I haven't seen on my T420 or T410
04:57 < Hunterkll> so
04:57 < Hunterkll> that's all you buddy
04:57 < Hunterkll> my 410 and 420 sitting right here both have no issues in that department
04:57 < sideup66> What
04:57 < sideup66> Are they on win 10 1803?
04:57 < Hunterkll> yup
04:57 < sideup66> Fuck
04:57 < Hunterkll> and I have a T430 here somewhere
04:57 < sideup66> Wtf
04:58 < sideup66> Why is this borked lol
04:58 < Hunterkll> but i haven't updated that yet
04:58 < Hunterkll> because ur gay
04:58 < Hunterkll> & you probably fucked with the OS
04:58 < JollyRgrs> btw, the lenovo power mgmt software went ded with 1709 or 1803
04:58 < Hunterkll> i'm gonna laugh if it's because yu fucked with some appx
04:58 < Hunterkll> lol
04:58 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, people use that?
04:58 < JollyRgrs> from what we found... it was not needed at all and could just be not installed
04:58 < Hunterkll> sideup66, oh yea i have no vendor utilities installed at all too
04:58 < sideup66> I just installed from 1709 where I had no issue
04:58 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: don't even get me started, but it was included on our global image for al ong time
04:58 < sideup66> Hmmm it has some Lenovo stuff running
04:59 < JollyRgrs> the only thing i'd ever install is if they needed a driver for the hotkeys to function
04:59 < sideup66> Like the battery tray thing is there
04:59 < JollyRgrs> other than that, just make sure device drivers are good
04:59 < chalkprison> missing part of the issue, which issue are yall seeing with lenovo & win10
04:59 < RustyFranks> speaking of updates... does anyone have any links to industry guidelines for appropriate delays when patching?
05:00 < JollyRgrs> RustyFranks: no set delays... but you should build in testing
05:00 < JollyRgrs> we test like zero minute stuff on some VMs (like it comes in around midnight on our system and IMMEDIATELY pushed to them)
05:00 < RustyFranks> yeah... some at work want to move to 90 day patch cycle and i want to keep it 30, but can't find any hard facts to make a case
05:00 < JollyRgrs> then another group gets it to test things, then we push to a UAT group of around 100, then we push to the rest of the 10k
05:00 < rpifan> 90 day pay cycle
05:01 < JollyRgrs> RustyFranks: 90 days?
05:01 < sideup66> Wtf
05:01 < JollyRgrs> as in no patching for 3 months at a time?
05:01 < RustyFranks> yes
05:01 < sideup66> My brightness has no control on this thing
05:01 < JollyRgrs> NO BUENO! NO BUENO!
05:01 < RustyFranks> i'm not happy about it
05:01 < JollyRgrs> we get UAT pushed the monday after patch tuesday, with prod the following monday
05:01 < sideup66> How the hell did this break 😶
05:01 < JollyRgrs> so 2 weeks late from patch tues to prod
05:01 < RustyFranks> i'm solely responsible for patching and it's taken me a year to get 99% of our managed devices within 30 days
05:01 < JollyRgrs> that's for workstations... but servers could follow similar cadence
05:02 < sideup66> JollyRgrs: only thing here that is on is the tpm in the bios...
05:02 < sideup66> Maybe that screwed something
05:02 < Hunterkll> packeteer, w00t! film came out 100% perfect first try, no need for any work on fixing exposure issues after the fact
05:02 < JollyRgrs> TPM isn't lenovo specific...
05:02 < Hunterkll> 10000000% perfect development
05:02 < JollyRgrs> what would TPM have to do with anything?
05:02 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, when I turn the TPM on with my supermicro server board it can't boot windows :
05:02 < Hunterkll> :D
05:02 < Hunterkll> winload.exe read failure, gives an I/O error
05:02 < Hunterkll> figure that one the fuck out...
05:03 < RustyFranks> i just wish there was something like NIST saying an actual appropriate delay and not say it depends
05:03 < Hunterkll> it does though
05:03 < Hunterkll> it highly depends
05:03 < Hunterkll> for us, 7 business days unless it's super-high-critical
05:04 < RustyFranks> not so much in SMB with a single HV host running a DC and file server though
05:04 < Hunterkll> might be 3 business days for super crit unless we're pulling an 18 hour day to validate that we have a patch installed (wannacry)
05:04 < Hunterkll> etc
05:04 < Hunterkll> but we're also following DoD standards
05:04 < Hunterkll> so
05:04 < rpifan> it seems everyone is moving to switzerland
05:04 < rpifan> maybe ishoul dfind a job there
05:05 < sideup66> Hmmm trying turning off TPM Hunterkll
05:05 < sideup66> Not like it's encrypted...laptop lives in my house
05:05 < RustyFranks> yeah, i just gotta get hard facts to make the case. I was going to bring up patching more regularly later this week and just got an email that higher ups are wanting to move to 90 days
05:05 < Hunterkll> sideup66, dude, that board/combination (it's probably the TPM i'm using honestly) is the only time i've EVER seen a TPM be a fault/issue
05:05 < Hunterkll> and that's over THOUSANDS of devices
05:05 < RustyFranks> from the pictures, switzerland seems magical rpifan
05:05 < Hunterkll> it isn't the TPM
05:05 < Hunterkll> oh, and if you have drive encryption you'll no longer be able to boot if you turn off TPM most likely :P
05:06 < sideup66> Nah it boots fine
05:06 < sideup66> Maybe a botched update?
05:06 < xe0n> oh dont say that, A-KO will bust another nut
05:06 < rpifan> the boy lives there
05:06 < rpifan> lots of heroine apparently
05:06 < Hunterkll> xe0n, fk off
05:06 < xe0n> :P
05:07 < Hunterkll> xe0n, 99% of win10 failures are because people fucked with their shit in ways that go against the documentation
05:07 < Hunterkll> just sayin'
05:07 < xe0n> oh dude
05:07 < xe0n> you are so easy to shit stir lol
05:07 < Hunterkll> 0.5% is because they have shit hardware
05:07 < xe0n> oh dude relaxxx
05:07 < xe0n> lol
05:07 < sideup66> Hunterkll: you sure are shilling hard
05:07 < xe0n> i knew i'd start you up loll
05:07 < sideup66> I didn't modify anything in there
05:07 < Hunterkll> xe0n, i'm tired of idiots blaming microsoft for their problems
05:07 < Hunterkll> :P
05:07 < xe0n> loll
05:07 < Hunterkll> sideup66, well, you do have vendor software
05:07 < xe0n> i knew i'd get you fired up
05:08 < Hunterkll> xe0n, eh, it's more to the point all the dumb people are trying not to look dumb but failing miserably that gets me fired up
05:08 < Hunterkll> :P
05:08 < Hunterkll> then they create a trump-like echo chamber around themselves
05:08 < Hunterkll> :D
05:08  * xe0n eats popcorn
05:08 < xe0n> loll
05:08 < sideup66> Eh?
05:09 < Hunterkll> sideup66, you have a driver issue
05:09 < sideup66> Hunterkll: I'm thinking it's video, seems like the only vendor related thing there is that battery gauge, the other one doesn't even work anymore
05:09 < Hunterkll> intel graphics driver issue
05:09 < sideup66> Yep
05:09 < enix> Hunterkll: what to do in eve
05:09 < sideup66> When I reinstalled that it sorta worked briefly
05:09 < enix> Can't think :(
05:09 < sideup66> So I'm wondering wtf I need or am missing
05:09 < sideup66> Because that driver is from windows update
05:10 < Hunterkll> block the driver
05:10 < Hunterkll> and install the older one
05:10 < Hunterkll> because lenovo did something retarded in their laptop
05:10 < Hunterkll> and before you say it yes- you can block a driver update
05:10 < Hunterkll> using a tool from microsfot
05:10 < Hunterkll> lol
05:10 < sideup66> And when I went back and tried to roll back in the new win10 said I couldnt
05:10 < Hunterkll> sideup66, to be honest i found all of this in 1 lenovo forum thread because i googled "lenovo t410 brightness adjustment windows 10" and it was the first result
05:10 < rpifan> seems spain has a lot of it jobs
05:10 < rpifan> im kinda surprised
05:11 < sideup66> Erm
05:11 < Hunterkll> sideup66, because you're at a clean slate on drivers after the upgrade
05:11 < Hunterkll> https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-10/T410-Screen-Brightness-adjustment-broken-after-Windows-10/td-p/4062127
05:11 < Hunterkll> ^^^^
05:11 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Solved:  T410 Screen Brightness adjustment broken after Windows 10 Version 1803 update - Lenovo Community
05:11 < Hunterkll> it even has a link to the working driver
05:11 < rpifan> English (IT or helpdesk or tech or technical or Sysadmin or Systemadministrator or infrastructure) -german -deutsch
05:11 < Hunterkll> this is lenovo's fault :D
05:11 < sideup66> Don't need to be a dick, I just asked figuring maybe someone else saw it
05:11 < Hunterkll> i wasn't being a dick
05:11 < Hunterkll> lol
05:11 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed1tv_gCOUA
05:11 <+layer-eight> * rpifan →  YouTube → Pet Shop Boys - Left To My Own Devices → ⚘ 2,937,353 ↑ 8,787 ↓ 295 ✍ 574
05:11 < Hunterkll> i was telling you how i found the solution
05:11 < sideup66> Why doesn't msft just use the driver that doesn't cause an issue
05:11 < Hunterkll> because all microsoft sees is the intel integrated shit
05:11 < Hunterkll> they don't see what fuckery lenovo did to the hardware
05:12 < Hunterkll> microsoft goes off of the pci vendor id and device id
05:12 < Hunterkll> on decent vendor's hardware, that's good enough
05:12 < Hunterkll> on lenovo hardware, in this case, it's not
05:12 < Hunterkll> i suspect it may be my driver package that's keeping my 410 sane in this case
05:12 < Hunterkll> since i'm SCCM managing that
05:12 < Hunterkll> the 410 actually got 1803 accidentally
05:12 < Hunterkll> >_X
05:13 < Hunterkll> i was fucking with SCCM client settings and not paying attention
05:13 < Hunterkll> lol
05:13 < Hunterkll> sideup66, er, uh, before you dfuck with the drivers
05:13 < Hunterkll> check under 'monitors' in device manager
05:13 < Hunterkll> see if your monitor is disabled
05:13 < Hunterkll> .... don't ask\
05:14 < Hunterkll> sideup66, oh, and apparently 32 bit windows 10 doesn't have htis problem either
05:14 < Hunterkll> lol
05:14 < Hunterkll> fucking lenovo
05:15 < sideup66> Hmmm wut
05:15 < xe0n> nawt hotdog
05:15 < sideup66> How would the driver be disables
05:15 < Hunterkll> sideup66, for the *monitor*
05:15 < sideup66> Or monitor
05:15 < sideup66> Lol
05:15 < Hunterkll> this is apparently a thing that could happen
05:15 < Hunterkll> the driver for the monitor
05:15 < Hunterkll> lenovo had a fucking KB article about it
05:15 < Hunterkll> like i said
05:15 < Hunterkll> don't ask
05:16 < Hunterkll> i doubt it's your issue but it's one of the things to check in this situation apparently
05:16 < sideup66> Nope
05:16 < sideup66> Not disabled
05:16 < Hunterkll> https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht500157
05:16 < Hunterkll> lol
05:16 < Hunterkll> okay
05:16 < sideup66> Just weird, why would it work perfect in the old build and this build would fuck the video driver
05:16 < Hunterkll> newer video driver possibly
05:16 < Hunterkll> check for the latest driver *from lenovo*
05:16 < Hunterkll> for the T410
05:17 < Hunterkll> not from microsoft
05:17 < Hunterkll> vendors used to do janky shit
05:17 < sideup66> Then I'd expect a driver rollback option after the upgrade
05:17 < Hunterkll> no, you wouldn't get that
05:17 < Hunterkll> because you're clean slate
05:17 < sideup66> No
05:17 < Hunterkll> it's basically an OS reinstall with whatever the OS comes with
05:17 < Hunterkll> there's no history
05:17 < sideup66> I upgraded from an existing install, didn't clean install
05:17 < Hunterkll> no update history, nothing
05:17 < sideup66> Wut
05:17 < sideup66> Gg, msft
05:17 < Hunterkll> this is a good thing because it prevents install rot :p
05:17 < sideup66> Not leave fucking driver history in a in place upgrade
05:17 < sideup66> Gg
05:17 < Hunterkll> it's never left the driver history before in any type of in place upgrade
05:17 < Hunterkll> why would this be any different?
05:18 < Hunterkll> but no, the real fault here is lenovo who did something non-standard
05:18 < packeteer> Hunterkll: gw mate
05:18 < sideup66> Why the fuck wouldn't it, it can delete the old one and only go back one version
05:18 < Hunterkll> windows 10 is forcing hardware manufacturers to stop fucking around and doing stupid non-standard shit
05:18 < sideup66> Why do I "need" a driver
05:18 < Hunterkll> sony's stopped their retarded mux's for optimus and gone with the standard implementaiton now
05:18 < Hunterkll> which means i could actually consider buying a sony laptop these days
05:18 < Hunterkll> lol
05:19 < Hunterkll> back in ... 2011? when i got one ... man, hackintoshing was /literally impossible/ and running newer video drivers on windows was /literally impossible/ unless they were sony modified
05:19 < Hunterkll> fuckers
05:19 < Hunterkll> now sony can't get away with that shit anymore
05:19 < abakedapplepie> hey anyone have a direct link to sql standard iso/exe/whatever
05:20 < abakedapplepie> someone posted a list of links to microsoft's cdn i thought recently
05:20 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, no, but i have an MSDN mirror.... https://the-eye.eu/public/MSDN/
05:20 < Hunterkll> :P
05:20 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  The Eye | File Listing
05:20 < dragonfleas> is there a way to get around the credssp error bullshit?
05:20 < dragonfleas> like a bypass?
05:20 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, yes, it's called apply MARCH'S PATCH
05:20 < dragonfleas> I need to remote into a new server i'm working on getting deployed and i need to patch it
05:20 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i can't patch it because I can't RDP into it
05:20 < abakedapplepie> ew its so old
05:20 < abakedapplepie> gross
05:20 < Hunterkll> why doesn't your provisioning system or template have such a patch or method to patch? :P
05:20 < abakedapplepie> i want to download from microsoft
05:21 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, but no, if you had read MARCH, APRIL, and MAY's patch notes, you'd know there's a registry key
05:21 < Hunterkll> you can use to set mitigation level
05:21 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i'm sole-role, you think I have time to browse through pages of patch notes? nah nigga i don't have time for that shit
05:21 < Hunterkll> pages?
05:21 < Hunterkll> lol
05:21 < JollyRgrs> pages?
05:21 < Hunterkll> it's normally half a page, if that
05:21 < JollyRgrs> you can read it while sitting in line for your burger and fries at teh drive-thru
05:21 < dragonfleas> I'll google the registry key
05:21 < sideup66> I get that but breaking the system for the sake of breaking it because we "improved" is kinda eh
05:22 < sideup66> I didn't know they were apple
05:22 < sideup66> Who just dictate things now
05:22 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, here's the detailed writeup https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2018/05/07/credssp-rdp-and-raven/
05:22 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  CredSSP, RDP and Raven | Ask  Premier Field Engineering (PFE)  Platforms
05:22 < JollyRgrs> sideup66: what was broken?
05:22 < Hunterkll> sideup66, there are bajillions of hardware combinations
05:22 < JollyRgrs> they FIXED... the glitch (exploit)
05:22 < sideup66> The driver, I'm reviewing the thread
05:22 < JollyRgrs> oh
05:22 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, Lenovo T410 has issues with brightness adjustment after 1803 update
05:22 < sideup66> You mean installed spyware JollyRgrs
05:22 < JollyRgrs> well, lenovo is just bad... jsut know that and you'll be fine
05:22 < sideup66> Gotta get that data to track hou
05:22 < Hunterkll> ^
05:23 < sideup66> Old version didn't mine enough
05:23 < Hunterkll> sideup66, oh for fucks sake just go into settings, install the telemetry data viewer, and tell me how the fuck they're tracking you
05:23 < Hunterkll> new version is more granular, allows you to view the telemetry data unencoded, and lets you tweak more shit off
05:23 < sideup66> The one they made to tell you how they track and sell you
05:23 < sideup66> Like google
05:23 < sideup66> THEY made
05:23 <+NinjaStyle> I should sleep
05:23 < dragonfleas> Ok so I just need to set HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System\CredSSP\Parameters to 0?
05:23 <+NinjaStyle> But I'm too busy interneting
05:24 < dragonfleas> sorry AllowEncryptionOracle*
05:24 < Hunterkll> yes
05:24 < dragonfleas> kk
05:24 < dragonfleas> on the client not the host?
05:24 < xe0n> lololl
05:24 < Hunterkll> client
05:24 < Hunterkll> correct
05:24 < Hunterkll> host doesn't know yet
05:24 < dragonfleas> kk
05:24 < Hunterkll> ..... yea, i've been reviewing the data using MITM attacks on the wire and my own little certificate shit
05:24 < Hunterkll> since before Win10 was released
05:24 < abakedapplepie> ORACLE? WHO LET ORACLE INTO MY MICROSOFT
05:24 < Hunterkll> it's made me LOL so hard
05:25 < Hunterkll> especially the 'keylogger' ... that if you turned off internet completion of search results in your search box ... doesn't exist... and only send syour keystrokes in the search box to bing for the ... internet completion function .... oh noes
05:25 < abakedapplepie> wait so youre telling me
05:25 < xe0n> oh jeez
05:25 < xe0n> put your tin foil hat on everyone
05:25 < xe0n> lol
05:25 < abakedapplepie> that windows needs to know what you type in the search box to search for it
05:25 < abakedapplepie> thats pretty serious
05:25 < sideup66> Wait
05:25 < dragonfleas> ummmm
05:26 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, and it even sends your keystrokes to bing like a keylogger if you turned on the function to include internet search results
05:26 < Hunterkll> :o
05:26 < sideup66> Dafuq is this driver from the post
05:26 <+NinjaStyle> Not with Cortana, she can read your thoughts since 1803
05:26 < sideup66> Turbo boost technology driver
05:26 < dragonfleas> the credssp registry setting is missing...
05:26 < sideup66> Wut
05:26 < dragonfleas> wtf
05:26 < abakedapplepie> thats because it doesnt exisat
05:26 < abakedapplepie> just like the spoon
05:26 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you have to create it
05:26 < abakedapplepie> create it and it shall be
05:26 < dragonfleas> oh i have to create it?
05:26 < abakedapplepie> si
05:26 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, by default, after last month's patches, it defaults to the 'mitigated' setting
05:26 < Hunterkll> there's 3 settings
05:26 < Hunterkll> allow everything, mitigated, and fuck off strict
05:26 < abakedapplepie> on, off, ???
05:26 < Hunterkll> now the default is mitigated
05:26 < abakedapplepie> its quantum
05:26 < abakedapplepie> :v
05:26 < Hunterkll> but that's wihtout a registry key set
05:27 < Hunterkll> microsoft gave ya'll 2 months warning on this change
05:27 < Hunterkll> :P
05:27 < dragonfleas> I just need it turned off on my workstation, no other workstations will have it off
05:27 < Hunterkll> ya
05:27 < Hunterkll> just set the reg key
05:27 < Hunterkll> might have to reboot, probably not, since this is just for the RDP client you're worrying about
05:27 < Hunterkll> alright
05:27 < Hunterkll> time to hang up this film
05:27 < abakedapplepie> frankly if any of the things im rdping into are compromised its too late
05:27 < abakedapplepie> lol
05:27 < dragonfleas> So i have to create CredSSP\Parameters\AllowEncryptionOracle
05:28 < rpifan> rdp
05:28 < abakedapplepie> ye
05:28 <+NinjaStyle> R/netsec mods are butts
05:28 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, that's what it says, isn't it?
05:28 < xe0n> i just used the admx to do it lol
05:28 < abakedapplepie> THIS GUY
05:28 < Hunterkll> xe0n, he aint deploy shit and he need to turn off the protection on his workstation
05:28 < abakedapplepie> TAKING SHORTCUTS N SHIT
05:28 < Hunterkll> lol
05:28 < Hunterkll> it's a 1 off machine
05:28 < Hunterkll> that's it
05:28 < Hunterkll> period
05:28 < Hunterkll> forever
05:28 < xe0n> relax
05:28 < Hunterkll> :P
05:29 < xe0n> you and your rants, calm down.
05:29 < xe0n> im just saying random shit
05:29 < abakedapplepie> he needs his pills
05:29 < abakedapplepie> and i need chocolate
05:29 < Hunterkll> xe0n, you're saying random shit that's almost close to accurate
05:29 < Hunterkll> stop it
05:29 < Hunterkll> say luna lovegood style random shit
05:29 < Hunterkll> that'll work better
05:29 < abakedapplepie> im angry, the city is doing construction on nearly all the roads around me
05:29 < xe0n> bird internet.
05:29 < abakedapplepie> its really hard to get around right now
05:29 < abakedapplepie> and i want ice cream
05:29 < abakedapplepie> real bad
05:29 < abakedapplepie> my main drive in is one way ... the wrong way
05:30 <+NinjaStyle> Someone post my thing to r/sysadmin since my thing is apparently"not netsec"
05:30 < abakedapplepie> what thing
05:30 < JollyRgrs> you knoe
05:30 < abakedapplepie> and fuck those guys
05:30 < JollyRgrs> his thing
05:30 < JollyRgrs> that isn't netsec
05:30 <+NinjaStyle> https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/8ob7lv/adventures_in_privesc_sccm_and_viewfinity
05:30 <+layer-eight> * NinjaStyle →  ⚓  https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/8ob7lv/adventures_in_privesc_sccm_and_viewfinity/ → Adventures in Privesc: SCCM and Viewfinity : netsec
05:30 <+NinjaStyle> Someone tried
05:30 <+NinjaStyle> And it got deleted
05:31 < abakedapplepie> eh
05:31 <+NinjaStyle> I already complained
05:31 < abakedapplepie> in beer we generally remove blog posts
05:31 <+NinjaStyle> Why?
05:31 < abakedapplepie> because its all spam usually
05:31 < abakedapplepie> or fluff rather
05:31 <+NinjaStyle> How else do you distribute content?
05:32 < abakedapplepie> but here its different
05:32 < abakedapplepie> we accept plenty of content, and from blogs that have established themselves as members of the community
05:32 < abakedapplepie> and not someone fishing for ad views
05:32 < abakedapplepie> but also mainstream journalism and established beer journalists
05:32 < abakedapplepie> and self posts
05:33 < xe0n> i typically fish for fish.
05:33 < abakedapplepie> if someone is newer, and nice when they inevitably message us, we might let it go and see how the sub likes it
05:33 < Hunterkll> packeteer, https://i.imgur.com/nSzDelO.jpg
05:33 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 831,588 bytes
05:34 < dragonfleas> well
05:34 < dragonfleas> there was just a group policy for it
05:34 < dragonfleas> i just applied it locally lol
05:35 < Hunterkll> only on your local machines
05:35 < dragonfleas> i applied it network wide
05:35 < dragonfleas> who needs security
05:35 < Hunterkll> .....
05:35 < dragonfleas> vulnerability for everyone
05:35 < Hunterkll> i meant as in
05:35 < Hunterkll> it's only showing up in your local group policy editor on the machine
05:35 < Hunterkll> it won't be in your central store until you update your templates
05:35 < Hunterkll> so it won't be easily applyable network wide
05:35 < dragonfleas> MY GIRLFRIEND JUST BROUGHT ME COOKIES
05:35 < dragonfleas> woo
05:35 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, yea but
05:36 < Hunterkll> did you just develop your own film at home?
05:36 < Hunterkll> I THINK NOT
05:36 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/nSzDelO.jpg
05:36 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 831,588 bytes
05:36 < Hunterkll> >:3
05:36 < dragonfleas> how do you develop film at home!??!
05:36 < Hunterkll> it's simple
05:36 < dragonfleas> www.developyourownfilmwithhunterkllathome.net?
05:36 < Hunterkll> firstt you do step 1
05:36 < Hunterkll> then you do step 2
05:36 < Hunterkll> then step 3
05:36 < Hunterkll> then you can do step 4.
05:36 < Hunterkll> Step 5 is optional
05:36 < m4221> Hunterkll: color or bw?
05:37 < Hunterkll> Step 6 is short or long depending on if you did step 5
05:37 < Hunterkll> then step 7 is entirely optional but helps
05:37 < Hunterkll> and step 8 is whatever
05:37 < Hunterkll> m4221, B&W, but heated water bath for C-41 coming tomorrow
05:37 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/nSzDelO.jpg
05:37 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 831,588 bytes
05:37 < Hunterkll> ^^^^
05:37 < Hunterkll> i just did that
05:37 < Hunterkll> i can authoritatively say
05:37 < Hunterkll> that my camera has no light leaks
05:37 < m4221> Hunterkll: do you have an 8mm projector?
05:38 < Hunterkll> so i'm 100% good to go for this weekend
05:38 < Hunterkll> and i'm going loaded for bear >:3
05:38 < Hunterkll> shame my EOS-50e failed, but now i've got one hell of a better camera
05:38 < Hunterkll> so party on
05:38 < Hunterkll> no, i don't
05:38 < Hunterkll> never did 8mm
05:38 < Hunterkll> w00t
05:38 < Hunterkll> this coming weekend ognna roxx0r
05:39 < sideup66> Hunterkll: more frustrating in that post someone comments the win 10 driver for this laptop didn't change between 1703 and 1809
05:39 < sideup66> So something in win 10 did
05:39 < sideup66> Either way installed the driver and it works
05:40 < Hunterkll> don't forget to use the driver update block tool
05:40 < Hunterkll> sideup66, funny thing, i haven't had these types of problems since Windows XP
05:40 < Hunterkll> Windows Update used to kill my ATI All in Wonder TV/gaming/video in/out card
05:40 < Hunterkll> :'(
05:40 < xe0n> i had that card :D
05:40 < Hunterkll> i'd always have to reinstall the ATI drivers after each month's update
05:40 < Hunterkll> it was like a 9600 or 8600 model
05:40 < Hunterkll> had the RF remote and everything
05:40 < xe0n> yeah lol
05:41 < xe0n> virtualdub it loll
05:41 < xe0n> or whatever it was called lol
05:41 < sideup66> Hunterkll: more interestingly I just had win 10 check
05:41 < sideup66> Didn't mess with the driver
05:41  * sideup66 shrugs
05:41 < Hunterkll> hrm
05:41 < xe0n> dont mess with dinner
05:41 < Hunterkll> i'm still erring on the side of the ahrdware
05:41 < sideup66> Maybe because I manually installed it
05:41 < Hunterkll> and maybe bios
05:41 < xe0n> dont mess with the river
05:41 < rpifan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2CC8LoM0qw
05:41 <+layer-eight> * rpifan →  YouTube → Old People at Bonnaroo → ⚘ 92,568 ↑ 560 ↓ 5 ✍ 54
05:41 < sideup66> Maybe like you were saying
05:41 < Hunterkll> because theres' only one other report online at all of this issue
05:42 < Hunterkll> and its been over a month
05:42 < Hunterkll> and there's a lot of T410s out there
05:42 < sideup66> They learned from the past to not mess with a driver if manually added
05:42 < Hunterkll> no
05:42 < Hunterkll> nope
05:42 < Hunterkll> not true
05:42 < Hunterkll> :)
05:42 < Hunterkll> (thank god, because I routinely forget to update my GPU drivers for new games)
05:42 < sideup66> So they still think they know more than the user in that dept
05:42 < Hunterkll> for 99.99% of cases, they do
05:42 < sideup66> In this situation it's not a gaming box
05:42 < sideup66> So I mean it's just stability
05:43 < Hunterkll> nominally, driver updates bring increased stability
05:43 < Hunterkll> sideup66, but losing brightness control has been a long standing lenovo fun thing
05:43 < Hunterkll> I had it happen on my old T430 twice
05:43 < Hunterkll> and that was on winodws 7
05:43 < Hunterkll> >:3
05:43 < sideup66> Oh that's how you knew
05:43 < Hunterkll> fuckers
05:43 < sideup66> This is a typical thinkpad issue
05:43 < Hunterkll> it happend to me twice on my old work issued T430
05:43 < Hunterkll> on WINDOWS 7
05:44 < sideup66> Ouch
05:44 < sideup66> Also
05:44 < Hunterkll> it's a typical LENOVO issue
05:44 < Hunterkll> it's not limited to thinkpads or windows 10
05:44 < Hunterkll> it's across lenovo models
05:44 < sideup66> Windows 10 put it's driver on before I installed over it with the old
05:44 < Hunterkll> it's fucking dumb
05:44 < sideup66> Maybe that's why it's happy
05:44 < Hunterkll> nah
05:44 < sideup66> But if it isn't gonna break video I'm happy
05:44 < Hunterkll> it'll whack it in a scan again soon
05:44 < dragonfleas> fuck
05:44 < dragonfleas> fuck
05:44 < dragonfleas> fuck
05:44 < Hunterkll> *whoosh*
05:44 < Hunterkll> I am the DILDO GENIE
05:44 < Hunterkll> you have 3 wishes
05:45 < Hunterkll> but for each wish, i grow 6 inches while I assfuck you to deliver your wish!
05:45 < Hunterkll> ahahahahahahha
05:45 < dragonfleas> i just accidentally deleted the /etc/hosts folder
05:45 < Hunterkll> ...........
05:45 < Hunterkll> folder?
05:45 < dragonfleas> sorry panicking
05:45 < dragonfleas> file
05:45 < agent_white> 1) Another 6, 2) Another 6, 3) Another wish
05:45 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, windows or li nux?
05:46 < dragonfleas> linux
05:46 < Hunterkll> well that's easy enough to fix
05:46 < Hunterkll> just write a new one
05:46 < Hunterkll> default hosts file only needs 2 lines
05:46 < Hunterkll> localhost and your actual host
05:46 < Hunterkll> 127.0.0.1 localhost
05:46 < Hunterkll> 192.168.1.2 hostname hostname.fqdn.imanidiot.com
05:46 < dragonfleas> does deleting hosts break loopback?
05:46 < Hunterkll> ... no
05:46 < Hunterkll> it just breaks name resolutoin and hostname
05:47 < Hunterkll> just recreate it
05:47 < Hunterkll> using exactly what i just wronte
05:47 < Hunterkll> wrote
05:47 < Hunterkll> of course, with relevant subsittiusoin
05:47 < dragonfleas> 127.0.0.1 felda.io
05:47 < Hunterkll> lel
05:47 < Hunterkll> 127.0.0.1 localhost felda.io
05:47 < Hunterkll> is a better idea
05:47 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, https://static.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/hosts_file_example.jpg
05:47 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 72,666 bytes
05:47 < rpifan> lol
05:47 < Hunterkll> you can have multiple lines
05:47 < dragonfleas> damn cryptic1backto.work is down
05:47 < Hunterkll> so do that
05:47 < rpifan> felda
05:47 < dragonfleas> i wonder what happened
05:47 < sideup66> Lol
05:48 < sideup66> No
05:48 < sideup66> It's not seeing the driver
05:48 < rpifan> fix my site
05:48 < rpifan> aspietech.me
05:48 < Hunterkll> sideup66, it might
05:48 < Hunterkll> i'd whack it anyway
05:48 < sideup66> Either way hopefully a freak Hunterkll
05:48 < sideup66> I am
05:48 < Hunterkll> sideup66, also, forced driver updates are a huge plus in the 'fixes fucking security vulnerabilites' department
05:48 < Hunterkll> lol
05:48 < Hunterkll> there've been some nasty security vulns
05:48 < Hunterkll> like one that allowed escape from chrome into the GPU then pivoted into your system
05:48 < Hunterkll> updating chrome, windows, or nvidia drivers fixed the issue
05:48 < Hunterkll> lol
05:49 < sideup66> Because normally until now Hunterkll I never needed to touch drivers tbh
05:49 < Hunterkll> i'd like to take a moment and just pointout
05:49 < Hunterkll> yea, you should routinely update your drivers
05:49 < Hunterkll> literally security vulnerability potential
05:49 < Hunterkll> of course since you're on 10 it's been taking care of most of it for you anyway
05:49 < sideup66> I just let windows deal with it and my little 410 ran happily
05:49 < Hunterkll> i'm using the heat exhaust from my dual 1080 ti's mining
05:49 < Hunterkll> to dry my film
05:49 < sideup66> Then this happened
05:49 < sideup66> And lol, no updates to hide
05:50 <+NinjaStyle> Why is the internet such assholes
05:50 < sideup66> Interesting hunterkjll, when I had the Intel utility install them it said I had newer drivers do I want to overwrote
05:50 < sideup66> And I said yeah
05:50 < sideup66> Now it doesn't wanna get the driver
05:50 < sideup66> Maybe it's fine
05:50 < sideup66> I'll save the driver file with a note anyways
05:50 < sideup66> In case I need it again I don't need to go digging
05:50 < Hunterkll> THIS
05:50 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/54miCFs.jpg
05:50 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,025,914 bytes
05:51 < Hunterkll> IS HOW YOU DRY FRESH NEGATIVES
05:51 < sideup66> Kek
05:51 < sideup66> Also
05:51 < sideup66> I plan to get a t3500 or similar soonish
05:51 < sideup66> Keep my chinkpad as a cheap laptop
05:51 < sideup66> Put it on debian
05:54 < xe0n> i plan on getting a terminator t-1000, cybernetic organism, it's a learning computer
05:55 < sideup66> is it turingcomplete
05:55 < sideup66> Hunterkll: ^ i havea precision t3500 as a home server
05:55 < sideup66> thing is baller
05:55 < sideup66> and actually
05:55 < Hunterkll> lol
05:55 < sideup66> the cpu still has quite a bit of life left as a desktop
05:55 < sideup66> 18 gigs of rm
05:56 < sideup66> ram
05:56 < sideup66> but yeah
05:56 < sideup66> old business desktop unit like that
05:56 < sideup66> and a 1060/1070, ssd, some ram, and use one of my old home server drives as a data drive
05:56 < sideup66> spinny disk
05:57 < sideup66> keep stuff like steam library and all on spinny
05:57 < sideup66> everything else on ssd
05:57 < sideup66> now that im not going to be college poor soonish
05:57 < sideup66> time to take care of myself
06:00 < MillerBoss> Give it to me, I'm worth it.
06:00 < MillerBoss> Baby I'm worth it
06:00 < MillerBoss> Uh huh I'm worth it
06:01 < sideup66> MillerBoss: are you watching porn again
06:02 < MillerBoss> Are you kidding? All audio from literotica plays on the PA system here 24/7
06:02 < sideup66> kek
06:02 < MillerBoss> :P
06:02 < MillerBoss> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBHQbu5rbdQ
06:02 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  YouTube → Fifth Harmony - Worth It ft. Kid Ink → ⚘ 1,564,923,517 ↑ 6,171,487 ↓ 355,178 ✍ 273,982
06:04 < MillerBoss> OK DHCP is broke as fuck and deciding to move from SonicWALL to Windows Server.
06:04 < MillerBoss> All nighter time
06:06 < MillerBoss> Should I change from /24 to /23? Is it a pain in the ass to get all devices to know whats up on their own if they are not with static addresses locally?
06:07 < sideup66> thanks btw Hunterkll doing all that kinda prompted me to stop being lazy on my own laptop and do some damn updating on different stuff
06:11 < Hunterkll> lol
06:13 < sideup66> bunch of programs i seldom open were old as shit
06:13 < sideup66> still have malware bytes
06:13 < sideup66> neverused it since like 2016
06:13 < sideup66> wanna update
06:13 < sideup66> but dont want the free monitoring trial
06:18 < Hunterkll> hahahahahah
06:18 < Hunterkll> about:blank FTW
06:18 < Hunterkll> who the fuck need sa light box
06:18 < Hunterkll> when you got the google chromes
06:18 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/boZsi3l.jpg
06:18 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,208,705 bytes
06:18 < Hunterkll> sideup66, ^ :D
06:22 < Casteil> https://i.imgur.com/fysBAgH.png just had a fox on my deck heh
06:22 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 168,421 bytes
06:33 < MillerBoss> https://youtu.be/rog8ou-ZepE
06:33 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby → ⚘ 234,903,286 ↑ 926,761 ↓ 66,784 ✍ 70,895 → * Content Restrictions
06:33 < sideup66> oh also
06:33 < sideup66> heh mun
06:33 < sideup66> fixed my scrolling finallylol
06:34 < sideup66> had the stupid reverse scrolling
06:34 < MillerBoss> dum dum
06:34 < sideup66> nah again
06:35 < sideup66> i just lived with it lol
06:35 < sideup66> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/143885280016/when-you-get-accustomed-to-some-bugs
06:35 <+layer-eight> * sideup66 →  When you get accustomed to some bugs - DevOps Reactions
06:35 < sideup66> basically shit was broke
06:35 < sideup66> was being lazy about fixing it
06:35 < MillerBoss> Huh, no Shortcuts app on iOS 12 iPhone 7
06:35 < sideup66> i just reinstalled my6p
06:36 < sideup66> weird bugs happening galore, worst of which was the ringer forgetting to ring
06:36 < sideup66> seems okay so far, other bugs seem dead and ringer seems okay
06:36 < sideup66> and waze finally works with google keyboard in android auto
06:36 < sideup66> again
06:42 < MillerBoss> Wow seeing a real HD version of this it looks fake almost https://youtu.be/q8w1d01Y2vY
06:42 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8w1d01Y2vY&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → Michael Jackson - Smooth Criminal (Single Version) HD → ⚘ 18,179,886 ↑ 159,998 ↓ 4,744 ✍ 6,403
07:04 < MillerBoss> https://www.coindesk.com/sec-just-appointed-first-ever-crypto-czar/
07:39 < packeteer> Hunterkll: nice work bro
07:41 < packeteer> oops, was scrolled up lol
07:42 < packeteer> ps. nice lightbox
07:42 < enix> I dont think I'll ever get accustomed to how indepth eve is
07:42 < enix> far out
07:42 < enix> packeteer: link me
07:42 < packeteer> Hunterkll | https://i.imgur.com/boZsi3l.jpg
07:42 <+layer-eight> * packeteer →  Hunterkll → IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,208,705 bytes
07:43 < enix> mad
07:47 < packeteer> been a few years since I did that... b+w is relatively easy, but colour is mad difficult.
07:47 < packeteer> have to be very precise
07:48 <+NinjaStyle> Can't sleep, chugged beer
07:49 < mal_will> Warm milk, a Xanax, and a bath'll do ya
07:50 < enix> masterbate
07:50 < enix> furiously.
07:51 <+NinjaStyle> I'm traveling, have no normal drugs
07:51 <+NinjaStyle> Jet lagged af
07:56 < nohusuro> enix: I swear I see you spell that wrong so frequently, I wonder whether you do it on purpose or you just don't know it's "masturbate".
07:57 < enix> nohusuro: legit just didn't know
07:57 < enix> But TIL https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/masterbate
07:57 <+layer-eight> * enix →  masterbate - Wiktionary
07:58 < nohusuro> here I was thinking it was going to be something else entirely
07:58 < nohusuro> nope, just redirects
07:58  * nohusuro removes that from his history
08:25 < vader-> So would you guys say that it is a good sign or bad sign when you get deeper into the # of interviews you have with a company for a job?
08:25 < vader-> I have another interview for a company I've been interviewing with... kinda. Nervous
08:26 < vader-> I have had a few times in the past where I got 6-7-8 interviews deep and they were like sorry you aren't what we are looking for...
08:26 < niklasye> wow
08:27 < niklasye> I've never had more than two interview with the same company
08:27 < niklasye> but maybe it's a cultural thing
08:48 < nohusuro> 6-7-8 interviews? o.O jees, were they getting you to do mini project stuff? maybe they were just getting free labour out of you
08:48 < nohusuro> I've never had more than a single interview
08:49 < nohusuro> though I haven't exactly worked for companies that would require multiple rounds
08:55 < xe0n> i didn't realise maccas had that many interviews for someone to cook the fries :P
09:23 < packeteer> lots of big name companies now do multiple rounds. I dont understand it
09:44 < LemWork> just made the first steps toward adopting the stanford password policy at work
09:44  * LemWork crosses fingers.
10:25 < hello_kitty> I have a web game services that would normally work by dynamically creating subdomains for each game server added, e.g.  instance22.example.com/6. Where instance22 is the 22nd vps added to the set, and 6 would be one of the games running on that server. Are there some other ways that I could do this without the subdomain? Like example.com/22/6? My issue is that single server can't handle the traffic
10:26 < hello_kitty> also hypothetically I wouldnt even really want that url, i'd want something like example.com/?key=d32h178  which then maps to whichever specific game instances running on whichever specific box
10:29 < Hatsjoe> Sure you can do this with a load balancer
10:29 <+ihre> ^
10:29 <+ihre> sounds like youre looking for haproxy
10:29 < Hatsjoe> Be it ALB from AWS or Haproxy if you host it yourself
10:30 < Hatsjoe> You can define ACLs and use certain backends whenever a certain ACL matches
10:30 <+ihre> and haproxy is easily manageable over a socket, so you could use 'dynamic' configuration, add or remove servers from backends
10:31 < hello_kitty> if i do something like that, is the connection truly passed to the target server? our current prod setup has dns entries like us-west-3.domain.com, and then us west 3 has nginx reverse proxying from urls /1 /2 /3 /4 to the game servers running on it, usually following a pattern like /1 goes to :8001, etc
10:32 < hello_kitty> and nginx ends up... involved the whole time, albeit just on that server in specific
10:32 < hello_kitty> but it is a notable chunk of the cpu, just proxying between the games that are running
10:33 < hello_kitty> (although maybe i set that up badly)
10:34 < Hatsjoe> hello_kitty: something like this: https://paste.devrobs.nl/jNpAeEQA02.txt
10:34 < Hatsjoe> I havent tested that config btw so it may contain errors
10:35 <+ihre> but yeah, all traffic will pass through the lb, ingress and egress
10:35 < Hatsjoe> haproxy can do a lot of requests with very little cpu used
10:36 < Hatsjoe> but yeah, if you have a lot of hits, it will cost some cpu, but thats just how it is...
10:36 < Hatsjoe> hello_kitty: are you on AWS?
10:36 < hello_kitty> so for example, if one of the game servers runs 2 game instances, nginx proxying from /1 to 8001, /2 to 8002, etc, will come in at abotu 25% when there are ~100 ccu
10:36 < rhqq> mornings
10:36 < hello_kitty> if the haproxy works similarly, i'm not sure it could handle the full load
10:36 < rhqq> ihre: o/
10:36 <+ihre> sup rhqq
10:36 < hello_kitty> this one is on a mixture of vultr and linode
10:36 < rhqq> leaving for california
10:36 < rhqq> :)
10:37 <+ihre> oh nice, holiday?
10:37 < rhqq> nah
10:37 <+ihre> w0rk w0rk
10:37 < rhqq> nah
10:37 < rhqq> well, just another location to be in
10:37 < Hatsjoe> hello_kitty: I have had haproxy setups with 10.000+ CCU and without it breaking a sweat
10:37 < Hatsjoe> haproxy is way more suitable for the job than nginx or apache
10:37 < rhqq> woot
10:37 < rhqq> xD
10:37 < rhqq> why would haproxy be any more suitable
10:38 < rhqq> than nginx
10:38 < Hatsjoe> because haproxy is made for 1 thing and 1 thing only, proxy shit
10:38 < Hatsjoe> its no webserver
10:38 < Hatsjoe> well, it kinda is
10:38 < Hatsjoe> but you get the point
10:38 < rhqq> nginx can do proxy as good as haproxy
10:39 <+ihre> haproxy status -> nginx status
10:39 < rhqq> but seriously, i have no deeper experience in apache, but nginx is bulletproof
10:39 < rhqq> i used it in heavy workloads and it never failed me a bit
10:40 < rhqq> even on underpowered machines
10:40 < hello_kitty> i mean, i'm fine just doing what we did to survive the load again.. which is make a dns entry for every box we turn on, and then connect players to those   us-east-35.game.com/instance-4
10:40 <+ihre> haproxy can be configured w/ socket connection, no restart required, dont think nginx does that
10:40 < rhqq> can
10:40 < rhqq> SIGUSR1 aka reload
10:40 <+ihre> HUPHUPHUP
10:40 < hello_kitty> i was just hoping to get around the chore of doing dns stuff and buying another wildcard cert for this next product
10:40 < rhqq> ihre: stop playing with the phone
10:40 < Hatsjoe> hello_kitty: you can just use haproxy
10:41 < Hatsjoe> See the config example I pasted
10:41 < Hatsjoe> Its a simple matter of copy paste and you're there
10:41 < hello_kitty> yea.. its just if it uses *any* CPU at all i have a hard time imagining it can handle the load
10:41 < hello_kitty> unless its like thousands of times faster than nginx reverse proxying
10:42 < rhqq> hello_kitty: what is your machine and what is your load
10:42 < rhqq> because if you're complaining at nginx performance, then it is most likely layer8 not nginx
10:42 < Hatsjoe> Also, just throwing this in here: http://www.loadbalancer.org/blog/nginx-vs-haproxy/
10:42 <+layer-eight> * Hatsjoe →  NGINX vs HAProxy - a bit like comparing a 2CV with a Tesla?
10:42 < hello_kitty> cause we end up with like 2-10k websocket connections, each sending data at 60-144 fps, and receving data at 20 fps
10:43 < hello_kitty> which horizontally scaled on the $5 vultrs (cheapest server... :D ) puts it at about 40-100 players (out of of the total 10k, or whatever) and 25% cpu is just the nginx
10:43 < hello_kitty> but that can scale forever, we just keep adding more
10:45 < Hatsjoe> "25% cpu is just the nginx" whats wrong with that? you use these machines just for nginx and nothing else right? i.e. single purpose machines?
10:45 < rhqq> yeah
10:45 < rhqq> i guess thats the issue
10:45 < rhqq> ;p
10:45 < rhqq> also only 25%?
10:45 < hello_kitty> they run nginx and 1-4 game instances (which is fine)
10:45 < rhqq> eh
10:46 < hello_kitty> im just imagining tho that the nginx couldnt have done 10k players
10:46 < rhqq> its not nginx
10:46 < rhqq> its layer8
10:46 < rhqq> and putting haproxy wont really help
10:46 < rhqq> until some redesign happens
10:46 < rhqq> two slightly bigger machines on the frontend to do all the LB plus auto-scaling amount of backend game-only servers
10:46 < Hatsjoe> hello_kitty: thats your issue, your infra design is bad. You should use single purpose machines, i.e. 1 machine for the nginx (preferably 2 due to high availability) and then per game server 1 machine
10:47 < rhqq> yup
10:47 < hello_kitty> if there's one game server per machine i can actually cut nginx out of them altogether
10:47 < hello_kitty> and node can answer on the port directly
10:48 < hello_kitty> which is worth a few more CCU per machine, for the games that can do it
10:49 < hello_kitty> but this next product doesnt benefit from having many players per game, it has fewer players per game instance.. i actually have yet to benchmark how many instances can be put on a $5 vultr
10:49 < rhqq> ...
10:49 < rhqq> that's wrong on so many layers
10:49 <+ihre> but money
10:50 < rhqq> still
10:50 < hello_kitty> is it?? tell meee
10:50 < rhqq> i'm quite sure that if you put 2 smalles machines in front as LB
10:50 < rhqq> and then auto-scaled backend game servers per needs
10:50 < hello_kitty> i thought ~100 ccu on a $5 vps playing at first person shooter rates was like, awesome perf
10:50 < rhqq> you'd end up spending more shekles
10:50 < rhqq> s/more/less
10:50 < rhqq> xD
10:51 <+layer-eight> [SED rhqq] you'd end up spending less shekles
10:51 < rhqq> sorry, hot pizza made my brain fart
10:51 < rhqq> long story short. if you are complaining about $10/mo worth of investition for future-proofing your env
10:51 < rhqq> we've nothing to talk about really
10:51 < hello_kitty> i'm trying to understand.... so like.. 2 machines end up infront of the other 50 little game instances type of thing..?
10:52 < rhqq> yes
10:52 < Hatsjoe> hello_kitty: you're trying to cheap out on the infra which is the issue here... a little bit more investment in the infra would make it tons better.
10:53 < Hatsjoe> dont try to put as many services as possible on a single server
10:53 < hello_kitty> and then they take... for example.. traffic aimed at  wss://foo.com/12345  and they know this needs to go to 123.123.123.123:8018..? and they do that job?
10:54 < rhqq> you just do ip_hash session stickiness on nginx (or whatever else corresponding on haproxy)
10:54 < rhqq> so then your proxy knows which backend to push packets to
10:55 < hello_kitty> and then i make those... loadbalances in each data center that has game servers? and the latency will be okay?
10:55 < rhqq> local network is like 1ms
10:55 < rhqq> in most cases
10:56 < hello_kitty> i've never tried nginx on one machine and the games on another
10:56 < hello_kitty> the initial introduction of nginx was just to allow multiple games from one box to listen on port 80/443
10:56 < rhqq> well, nginx, haproxy, whatever really. the issue is the setup you have, not nginx itself
10:57 < rhqq> yeah, and you just move your shit onto other server, setup doesnt really change, just address changes
10:57 < hello_kitty> we used to not even have the nginx in there.. the games would just list themselves on a master server, ip and port.. and then when someone started to play on the website they would jsut connect (websocket connection) directly and all was good
10:57 < hello_kitty> until we started getting complaints that ports other than 80/443 were blocked
10:58 < rhqq> o.o
10:58 < rhqq> yeah, your setup sucks
10:58 < hello_kitty> so between that need.. and eventually adding ssl such that we could no longer use naked ips, everything got complex
10:59 < hello_kitty> so then.. if im understanding correctly.. i would get the benefit of the naked ips back with this load balancer strategy
11:00 < rhqq> you get few benefits
11:00 < rhqq> future-proofing, scalability (on both layers, independently), your app is hidden behind something that's proven to be secure
11:01 < hello_kitty> and not having 50+ installs of nginx :D
11:01 < rhqq> yea
11:02 < hello_kitty> so two things come to mind... i'd need a load balancer per region, right? because i cant load balance the european servers from us west
11:02 < hello_kitty> at least not for a first person shooter
11:02 < rhqq> are you setting up battlefied 5 servers or what?
11:03 < rhqq> because it sounds like that, based on previous experiences
11:03 < hello_kitty> so i probably dont end up with a url as simple as foo.com/?key=219038 <-- key that connects to a server... instead its like  europe.foo.com/?key=whatever  (so we are on the euro load balancer)
11:03 < hello_kitty> these are "io" games, multiplayer browser games.. all just html5, websocket + node
11:04 < rhqq> and yeah, each region has to have LB
11:05 < rhqq> since your backend traffic has to be pushed via local link
11:05 < rhqq> to minimize latency
11:05 < hello_kitty> and then at some point hypothetically... the LB is overloaded, right?
11:05 < hello_kitty> just not as quickly as it is being one of ten things running on a $5 vps
11:05 < rhqq> yeah
11:07 < hello_kitty> so the previous design, didn't have an overload.. but was a serious pain
11:07 < hello_kitty> and in theory would have less total players per $5 vps b/c they were doing nginx stuff too
11:08 < hello_kitty> welp time to turn on a few servers and see how this works :D i'll post back (probably tomorrow)
11:11 < rhqq> btw, how big are these $5 servers?
11:13 < packeteer> rhqq: which vendor?
11:13 < rhqq> im asking hello_kitty
11:13 < packeteer> k
11:13 < rhqq> i mean he had some particular ones in mind
11:14 < rhqq> its not i dont want to talk to you :P
11:14 < packeteer> lol
11:14 < rhqq> just realized that might have sounded rude :D
11:14 < packeteer> fwiw, I use Linode (personal) and AWS (work)
11:14 < rhqq> i use aws for everything
11:14 <+ihre> rhqq: https://www.vultr.com/pricing/ i guess those 5$ ones
11:14 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  High Performance and Cheap Cloud Servers Deployment - Vultr.com
11:15 < packeteer> anyway, back to haproxy tweaking
11:15 < jay-ros> Howdy gents
11:15 < rhqq> jay-ros: hiya
11:15 < jay-ros> jay-ros, checking in at 7pm in the office
11:15 < hello_kitty> $5 vutlr is like... 1 CPU, 1024 mem, 1 TB, hard to say what the CPU is exactly... benchmarks approximately as well as a similarly priced linode, much better than ovh, much much better than aws (at the price)
11:15 < rhqq> hmm, where are you
11:15 < rhqq> jay-ros:
11:15 < jay-ros> Sydney
11:15 < rhqq> ah, pm
11:15 < jay-ros> yeah
11:15 < rhqq> i thought am and was confused
11:15 < rhqq> ;p
11:16 < jay-ros> listening to my boss blow out a telco guy on conference for bad routing config design
11:17 < jay-ros> whilst knocking out a clicker game waiting for him to finish so we can keep going on the configuration fix
11:17 < rhqq> cookie clicker? :P
11:17 < jay-ros> swarmsim... looks like a web based application :P
11:17 < packeteer> Sydney represent!
11:17 < rhqq> jay-ros: if you're in such things try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uken.armory&hl=en
11:17 <+layer-eight> * rhqq →  Armory & Machine - Apps on Google Play
11:17 < jay-ros> what uuuuup
11:18 < packeteer> nommuch
11:18 < packeteer> shit qweather is about all
11:18 < jay-ros> mobile game?
11:18 < rhqq> yea
11:19 < rhqq> but actually good one
11:19 < jay-ros> I've got it on my browser. Looking at my phone in the office would suggest I'm not working :P
11:19 < rhqq> hah
11:19 < rhqq> i stopped playing web based clickers
11:19 < rhqq> since
11:19 < rhqq> while true; xdotool click 1; done
11:20 < rhqq> ;p
11:20 < jay-ros> autoclick?
11:20 < rhqq> forgot do*
11:20 < rhqq> yeah
11:20 < rhqq> which is good, because i know i'd do that on every game
11:20 < rhqq> i lose interest immediately
11:20 < rhqq> so i dont waste time :D
11:23 < jay-ros> yeah fair enough
11:24 < jay-ros> yeah I only jump into it to click around while I'm working on something to focus...
11:24 < jay-ros> sounds counterproductive, but you can only click on it so many times before you've got nothing to do, makes it easy to bounce back into the work again, and enough of a short mental break to regather myself
11:47 < hello_kitty> I'm shopping for a wildcard cert. The prices are $40-$600. What should I buy? The product is not particularly sensitive... its a game, it stores logins and scores.
11:48 < sadbox> hello_kitty: letsencrypt
11:49 < hello_kitty> i'm  not sure how to automate the letsencrypt wilcard cert (i do use letsencrypt for my regular websites tho)
11:49 < hello_kitty> it needs renewed every month, somewhat manually i think.. cause the wildcard as special rules
11:50 < Hatsjoe> You can automate everything if done the right way
11:50 < Hatsjoe> I use a wildcart letsencrypt cert too and works fine for me, the renawal can easily be scripted
11:51 < Hatsjoe> now that I think of it, maybe not.. I was required to do some DNS changes (txt) records for verification, not sure if that verification is cached
11:52 < hello_kitty> i think they want it every month.. and then im kinda a noob with certs..but i'd have to figure out which machine ended up with the updated cert right? and then move it to the others
11:54 < sadbox> hello_kitty: It would almost definitely be easier to not renew it on some random machine
11:55 < sadbox> choose one, automate the DNS update that's necessary
11:55 < sadbox> copy it from there or put it on your load balancer or something
11:58 < Hatsjoe> My wilcard:
11:58 < Hatsjoe> Issued On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 9:15:48 PM
11:58 < Hatsjoe> Expires On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 9:15:48 PM
11:58 < Hatsjoe> So its valid for 2 months it seems
11:59 < Hatsjoe> 3*
12:08 < sadbox> LE is always 3 months
12:14 < hello_kitty> I'll give 'em a try. Isnt that 60 days tho
12:14 < hello_kitty> i think they want a renewal every 30 days, but have a 30 day grace
12:16 < hello_kitty> some vps providers have automated wildcard renewal :x at least for the challenge part... w/ the txt change.. i want that
12:31 < gavit> anyone use supermicro ipmi before? I cn't seem to virtualize the cdrom. it asks for an ip, share name and path to image
12:32 < gavit> I am trying to go to \\127.0.0.1\iso\CentOS-7-x86_64-Minimal-1804.iso
12:32 < sadbox> gavit: I'm going to take a wild guess, but if it's asking for a share name that's probably from the viewpoint of the OOB itself
12:33 < sadbox> so unless it's got that iso on it's on storage that doesn't seem like it will work
12:33 < gavit> sadbox: that makes sense. So since the OOB is on a public IP I need a public share :S
12:33 < sadbox> I would also... if possible, never keep an OOB on a public IP
12:34 < sadbox> they rarely get the love the servers do in regards to patching, etc
12:34 < gavit> sadbox: its a leased dedicated server with IPMI, I dont think they can do it differently
12:34 < sadbox> ahh, yeah
12:34 < gavit> I sadly dont see a way to restrict IPs though
12:35 < gavit> now to go find me a public server or I have to spin one up :S
12:35 < gavit> if this was my first server, this would be VERY annoying.
12:35 < gavit> on dell the ipmi virtualizes it from the point of view of the client though, but it lets you 'upload' it
12:37 < sadbox> maybe it makes it less reliant on the browser or something
12:41 < gavit> well its a good thing cause now I dont have to use a VM with high bandwidth access to provision the server :)
12:55 < gavit> sadbox: you alive?
12:55 < sadbox> sorta
13:35 < gavit> guess it's not because I need a public share
13:35 < gavit> Still cant access it :(
13:45 <+ihre> tfw tmux freezes :|
13:54 < katnip> what is the benefit of tmux
14:01 <+ihre> the 1st and foremost is being able to detach a tmux session and attaching later, so for instance, if you run a tmux session remote, and your connection drops, reconnect, reattach, and youre back on track
14:03 < sadbox> katnip: it is also handy for when you need terminal scrollback and you're in something that doesn't give it to you out of the box
14:03 < sadbox> i.e. mosh
14:03 < sadbox> and some barebones terminal emulators
14:03 <+ihre> other than that, create panes (shells) per window, create multiple windows, sync input over all panes, resizable/rearrangeable panes, 'less like' history, zooming, etc
14:21 < asimon> Good morning my friends
14:27 < Bru-> morn
14:40 <@cryptic1> morning
14:48 < Alternity> morning cryptic1
14:48 < Alternity> i finally bought a dashcam
14:48 <@cryptic1> :)
14:49 < Alternity> drivers around here are special
14:49 < sadbox> Alternity: I should really do that
14:49 < sadbox> I don't trust claifornia drivers
14:49 < asimon> Yeah I think every state needs to update their drivers
14:49 < Alternity> https://www.reddit.com/r/Dashcam/
14:49 < asimon> causes all sorts of fatal issues down the road
14:49 <+layer-eight> * Alternity →  Dashcam
14:49 < Alternity> best value one -> https://www.amazon.com/VIOFO-Compact-A119-Optional-included/dp/B01M28B92C
14:49 < Alternity> what i just got
14:50 < Casteil> Alternity: good choice, I have that one too
14:50 < Alternity> make sure you get a high endurance microsd card, normal ones will fail pretty quick
14:50 < Casteil> nice and subtle
14:50 < Alternity> any gotchas Casteil?
14:50 < Casteil> not really?
14:50 < Alternity> do you have it powerd from battery directly or from outlet?
14:50 < Casteil> I think mine's got about a year on it now
14:50 < Casteil> still works great
14:51 < Casteil> powered from aux (12v)
14:51 < Casteil> turns on with the car, turns off with the car
14:51 < Alternity> ah cool
14:51 < sadbox> I want one that does rear-camera too
14:51 < Casteil> I don't really care for GPS modules
14:51 < Alternity> they have em, just more expensive, look on sidebar in r/dashcam
14:52 < Casteil> they can be incriminating, not that I'm one to really break the law
14:52 < asimon> How is the memory managed on those things?
14:52 < Alternity> incriminating?  more so than gps on your phone?
14:52 < Alternity> asimon: microsd
14:52 < Alternity> maybe stop murdering ppl Casteil
14:52 < asimon> And after the sd fills up do you need to replace it or does it do something similar to a rotating log file?
14:53 < Casteil> Alternity: your phone isn't actively logging your speed
14:53 < Alternity> oic, fair point
14:53 < Alternity> ya i do like to drive fast..... might take it off lol
15:06 < Hunterkll> AHAHAHA
15:06 < Hunterkll> first call of the day and the humor's already happening
15:07 < Hunterkll> "Who's your replacement for this while you're on vacation?" "The warm spot on my chair" "I hear that warm spot doesn't talk too much" "Depends on how much i've eaten on taco tuesday"
15:09 < Casteil> o_o
15:10 <+ihre> http://bash.org/?4281 is that guy rich and famous yet?
15:10 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  QDB: Quote #4281
15:10 <+ihre> i need one of those devices
15:13 < Alternity> anyone else using a standing desk?  i'm liking it
15:14 < sadbox> Alternity: whole office has them
15:14 < sadbox> I've used it like 4 times
15:14 <+ihre> yeah, at the office, not at home unfortunately
15:14 < Alternity> they seem to be in
15:14 < sadbox> in 3 years
15:15 < Alternity> nice change of pace
15:15 < Alternity> i probably sit/stand 50/50
15:15 < Hunterkll> urghhh
15:15 < Hunterkll> I hate it
15:18 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin felas
15:18 < kepler> i got one and used it for like a month
15:19 < kepler> maybe ill raise it today
15:19 < Alternity> is it motorized?
15:19 < Alternity> if mine wasn't motorized i probably wouldn't do it nearly as much
15:20 < kepler> no
15:20 < Alternity> ye crank is  kind of a pita
15:20 < Alternity> i dont want to excercise when i'm trying to healthier dammit
15:20 < kepler> it has handles and just stands, no cranking
15:20 < kepler> big springs to help it
15:20 < Alternity> veradesk?
15:20 < kepler> yeah
15:20 < Alternity> i dont think my triple monitor mount would work on one of those
15:21 < Alternity> heavy as hell
15:21 < kepler> this stand is like 80 lbs if not more
15:21 < kepler> i have dual monitors sitting on it, want to get arms for them. laptop can't support 3x 4k, so dual for now
15:22 < Alternity> eh 4k doesn't seem that great for productivity
15:22 < kepler> whaaat
15:22 < Alternity> i use windoze at work and ui scaling is painful
15:22 < kepler> i run 4k at native
15:22 < kepler> linux here
15:22 < kepler> 1:1 scaling works for me
15:22 < Casteil> windows 4k handling has gotten a lot better
15:22 < Casteil> dpi scaling, more specifically
15:23 < Casteil> 2 years ago I'd have said fuck no to a 4k display
15:23 < kepler> i run linux for everything productive
15:23 < Casteil> now I think the only thing I use regularly that doesn't handle 4K super well is hexchat
15:23 < Casteil> linux... is counterproductive :P
15:23 < kepler> have an egpu that i need to get working, then i can support more monitors
15:24 < Alternity> whats the benefit?  i have 3x 1200p i'm pretty happy with
15:24 < Alternity> running off of thunderbolt 3
15:24 < kepler> i fit more stuff on my screen
15:24 < Alternity> i mean if you are using dpi scaling is there really more space?
15:24 < Alternity> maybe you have better eyesight than me lol
15:24 < kepler> i dont use dpi scaling
15:24 < Alternity> what size monitors?
15:24 < kepler> 27
15:25 < Alternity> i use 1440p 27" at home and i have that at like 125% scalling
15:25 < Alternity> maybe i'm just old and blind :D
15:25 < kepler> i'd screen shot for you but i can't
15:25 <@Code_Man65> Because your print screen key is broken?
15:26 < kepler> no, cause i'd prob get fired
15:26 < Alternity> ceo is in love with ultrawidescreen
15:26 <+ihre> i had one of those super wide screen monitors previously, 21:9 i think, that was pretty nice actually, 4k on 13" is useless, and 27" 4k is really too small to read
15:26 < Alternity> wants to get everyone 34" ultrawide monitors
15:26 < Alternity> i'm like eh, i kinda like my seperate monitors for work
15:26 < kepler> i'd like an ultrawide for gaming, but i like 2 monitors for productivity
15:26 < Alternity> i would like 6 monitors if my company would pay for it
15:27 < Casteil> I'd rock a single 34" ultrawide 3440x1440
15:27 < Alternity> 3 feels limiting occasionally
15:27 < Alternity> Casteil: we have a few developers testing them, they like it
15:27 < Alternity> it's the dell 34" ultrawide
15:27 <@Code_Man65> Alternity:  I have 4 monitors on my workstation and 2 on my laptop
15:27 < Alternity> 2 monitors on your laptop? woah
15:27 < alazare619> anyone in here do meal prepping?
15:27 < Alternity> i've never seen a dual monitor laptop
15:27 < alazare619> like cook 1 day a week
15:27 < Casteil> I just got a fancy XPS 9570 with a hexacore i7-8750H though, if I ask for more shit my boss might expect a little too much from me in return :P
15:27 <@Code_Man65> Docking station Alternity
15:27 < corn266> has anyone convinced their higher ups to migrate from slack to discord?
15:27 < kepler> i have that new intel NUC w/ the amd gpu, waiting for kernel 4.18 to support it, then i'll get more monitors
15:28 < Alternity> actually thats not true, i've seen those USB screens that plug into laptops
15:28 < Alternity> Casteil: ya we just started getting those in
15:28 < Casteil> bossman ended up getting me this XPS with the 4K screen option >.>
15:28 < Alternity> they moved the fingerprint reader to the pwer button :(
15:28 < Alternity> i dont like it
15:28 < Casteil> eh
15:28 < Alternity> Casteil: haha i asked for 1080p
15:28 < Alternity> 4k screen kills the battery
15:28 < kepler> i got fleeced when ordering my stuff. my buddies who worked here said not to go crazy, so i got an xps 13 (now 1.5 yrs old) and 2x 27 inch monitors. other people got $5k imacs with 2x 5k LG screens.
15:28 < Casteil> I don't use the fingerprint reader anyway
15:29 < kepler> err, 5k macbooks
15:29 < Alternity> fuck imacs
15:29 < Alternity> garbage devices
15:29 < Casteil> Alternity: I think they've made some strides. I got 8 hours of battery
15:29 < kepler> agreed, but they were expensive, and i was told to chill
15:29 < Casteil> I lose about 12% per hour or so
15:29 < Hunterkll> .... lol
15:29 < Hunterkll> You earned dividends!
15:29 < Hunterkll> They're like little gifts from your investments to you.
15:30 < Casteil> guy I know got a similarly spec'd 9570 without 4k and got about the same battery
15:30 < vinrock> casteil
15:31 < vinrock> squeaky wheel gets the grease
15:31 < Alternity> Casteil:
15:31 < vinrock> if you dont ask for shit when you finally do it seems more out of the blue
15:31 < Alternity> the nail that sticks up gets hammered down
15:31 < Alternity> :P
15:31 < Hatter> omf'n head
15:31 < Hunterkll> aw yea
15:31 < Hunterkll> processin' that backlog
15:31 < Hunterkll> doin' 4 rolls of B&W that i've had sitting for a year
15:31 < Hunterkll> lol
15:35 <+giant_it_burrit> yay productivity
15:35 < Alternity> i try to avoid it by talking here
15:36 < Hatter> guys I have a bad headache, can we have a no-nonsense and productive day please
15:36 <+giant_it_burrit> nope
15:36 < khelpw> Sure, log off IRC
15:36 <+giant_it_burrit> nice try
15:36 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/everyone-complaining-about-microsoft-buying-github-needs-to-offer-a-better-solution/
15:36 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Everyone complaining about Microsoft buying GitHub needs to offer a better solution | Ars Technica
15:36 < SynMonger> why
15:37 < Alternity> nobody who works in the industry is complaining
15:37 < Alternity> just casuals who still spell microsoft m$
15:40 < abakedapplepie> lol Alternity
15:40 < rpgio> you really think _no one_ in the industry is complaining?
15:40 < abakedapplepie> if people are complaining its because they have their head up their ass
15:41 < alazare619> i need to eat more healthy
15:41 < abakedapplepie> im sure people are complaining, but no one that matters cares because its not a big deal
15:41 < ravioli> Hunterkll: as of right now it's getting through d3*.net domains
15:41 < Alternity> anyone relevant rpgio?
15:41 < alazare619> but asaparagus and celery and all that stuff doesnt look appeasing in my dinner
15:41 < Alternity> i'm open to being wrong, but microsoft's track record last few years regarding open source is pretty stellar
15:41 < ravioli> Alternity: what's your dinner normally now?
15:41 < Alternity> they've come a very long way
15:41 < alazare619> like i want mash tatters w/ cheese, steak, gravy, rolls i like those kind of foods
15:41 < alazare619> not healthy stuff
15:41 < corn266> "I've seen what microsoft has done to x, y, and z. Surely they won't do the same thing to github"
15:41 < Hatter> alazare619: try some lovely grilled asparagus with some salmon
15:41 < Alternity> ravioli: this week it's tandoori chicken in curry with rice
15:42 < rpgio> "nobody in the industry, no one what matters, no one relevant" ... if you say so
15:42 < ravioli> Alternity: mmmmm
15:42 < corn266> Hatter ribeye steak or gtfo
15:42 < Alternity> rpgio: i'm open to being wrong, can you give some examples?
15:42 < Alternity> not accusing just asking
15:42 < rpgio> people who "matter" won't go blabbing before some time as passed
15:42 < abakedapplepie> yeah if someone has a valid case for me being upset that github is owned by microsoft im all ears but i dont even see a scenario where its a bad thing
15:42 < ravioli> Alternity: none of those foods are bad if you learn portion control
15:43 < abakedapplepie> nothing has changed
15:43 < abakedapplepie> no one has any basis to make a comment regarding the sky falling
15:43 < abakedapplepie> if in 6 months they vastly change the platform, sure
15:43 < Nightcinder> MS is very open source friendly
15:43 < abakedapplepie> but i really doubt that would ever happen
15:43 < Nightcinder> now what they should do
15:43 < Nightcinder> is offer github as part of O365
15:43 < Alternity> oh you were talking to alazare619
15:43 < rpgio> yeah Microsoft paid $7.5 billion to change nothing
15:44 < abakedapplepie> im almost positive thats what will happen Nightcinder
15:44 < Nightcinder> abakedapplepie: it's a pretty solid offer
15:44 < alazare619> ravioli:  yea but i'm like a fat kid on chocolate cake
15:44 <@Code_Man65> rpgio:  How about you wait and see what actually happens instead of jumping to conclusions
15:44 < Alternity> that plus combining github with VSTS
15:44 < ravioli> alazare619: i was too
15:44 < alazare619> i aint done eating unless the button on my pants almost kills someone by flying off at mach 10
15:44 < abakedapplepie> gross
15:44 < rpgio> Code_Man65: isn't that what I'm saying?
15:44 < rpgio> that goes both ways though
15:45 < ravioli> alazare619: it helps if you eat throughout the day. there's a bunch of healthy (or mostly) healthy stuff that you can eat a LOT of to fill up your belly.
15:45 < alazare619> so i'm trying to get into meal prepping
15:45 < Alternity> meal prep is the way to go
15:45 < ravioli> alazare619: /r/1200isplenty is an awesome subreddit even if you don't have a target of 1200
15:45 <+giant_it_burrit> good luck bby
15:45 < Alternity> it's helped stop me free eating out a lot
15:45 < Alternity> which is always pretty unhealthy.
15:45 < ravioli> also, have you HEARD about CUCUMBERS??
15:45 < alazare619> just all of these ideas are "meh" not foods i find tasty
15:45 < ravioli> take a cucumber, right? slice it up.
15:46 < alazare619> like why would i want to eat seaweed?
15:46 < ravioli> everyone loves cucumbers. they're great.
15:46 < ravioli> now, fill an entire big bowl with cucumber
15:46 < Nightcinder> As a private company, we don't know exactly what GitHub's bank account looks like, but we can make some reasonable inferences. The company has had two rounds of venture capital funding, one for $100 million, a second for $250 million. Leaked financials from 2016 painted a picture of a company burning cash at a prodigious rate, with salary and benefits alone rivalling revenue. Even a more positive analysis of the
15:46 < Nightcinder> numbers suggests that GitHub was on track to have burned through that $250 million by around the middle of this year.
15:46 < Nightcinder> wew
15:46 < Hatter> no one loves a cucumber
15:46 < ravioli> 8 calories!
15:46 < ravioli> for a massive bowl of cucumbers!
15:46 < ravioli> your belly gets filled up
15:46 <+giant_it_burrit> water 0 calories
15:46 < ebol4> cucumbers suck
15:46 < ravioli> portion control is easier
15:46 < Hatter> the only thing cucumbers are good for is floating around in water at spas or hotels
15:46 < ravioli> why, i never
15:47 < alazare619> Hatter:  and old lonely women at a 50 shades of gray opening night
15:47 < Nightcinder> so basically
15:47 < Nightcinder> github has no funds
15:47 < Hatter> ewww!
15:47 < alazare619> :vomit:
15:47 < abakedapplepie> Nightcinder: so basically, neckbeards should be praising microsoft for saving their beloved github
15:48 < Nightcinder> their options were VC funding, IPO, folding, or selling
15:48 < Nightcinder> selling was the best option
15:49 < onicrom> .wi
15:49 < Alternity> 7.5 billion bucks seems like a pretty good option
15:49 < Nightcinder> well especially if the books are just a sea of red
15:49 < Nightcinder> what VC is gonna fund that
15:49 < abakedapplepie> well i know that one picture with satya and the other two and the cofounder of github
15:49 < abakedapplepie> homeboy had a $7.5bn smile on his face
15:49 < abakedapplepie> lol
15:50 < Nightcinder> As such, Microsoft's ability to give GitHub what it needs—more paying corporate customers—in order to keep the open-source lights on is the best available. Microsoft has the sales channels, it has the vested interest in making Git's (and hence, GitHub's) enterprise support better, and it has the wide developer audience. Critics of this deal shouldn't be upset; they should be glad that GitHub has found the best
15:50 < Nightcinder> possible new home.
15:50 < Nightcinder> but according to rpgio the sky is falling
15:52 <@Code_Man65> Wow Nightcinder, you made him /part
15:52 < Nightcinder> lol
15:52 < Nightcinder> OSS zealots need not apply
15:52 <@Code_Man65> Except github itself isn't OSS, only the git protocol they use is
15:52 < Alternity> ya that part is rather ironic
15:52 < Nightcinder> right, but everyone considers github the bastion of OSS
15:53 < Alternity> people are hopeful microsoft will opensource github source
15:53 < Alternity> seems pretty likely
15:53 < alazare619> but its not
15:53 < Nightcinder> why would they do that
15:53 <@Code_Man65> gitlab on the other hand, is OpenSource
15:53 <+ihre> freemium/premium
15:53 < ravioli> more like open sores, amirite?
15:53 < alazare619> ive used bitbucket for along time
15:53 < Alternity> because they've open sourced the last few products they've acquired, and it's the cool thing for companies to do now
15:53 < Alternity> see redhat
15:53 < alazare619> i like the fact that i can have private repo's on bitbucket for free
15:53 < Nightcinder> "Microsoft's actually been doing a lot of "benevolent charity"-style things for developers lately, mainly because... well, they kind of have to. Windows isn't the dominant platform anymore, so they don't have the weight needed to force developers into their tools and ecosystems."
15:54 < Alternity> alazare619:  just dont ever need more than 1 user, atlassian pricing scales exponentially
15:54 <+ihre> well yeah, they need to have somewhat of a user base
15:54 < Nightcinder> did i miss windows not being dominant anymore?
15:54 < Nightcinder> is it the era of the linux desktop already
15:54 <+ihre> if bitbucket private repo's were paid too, nobody would use it
15:54 < abakedapplepie> Hunterkll: my 6s+ is a shadow of its former self on 11.3.1 :'( I'm really upset. its awful.
15:54 < ravioli> Nightcinder: i think the case can be made that it's the era of unix computing if we count mobile phones
15:54 < Nightcinder> lol people think that it'll be locked behind MSDN
15:55 < abakedapplepie> people are idiots
15:55 < Nightcinder> wonder how long until github's migrated off AWS
15:55 < Nightcinder> to azure
15:56 < abakedapplepie> not long im sure
15:56 < abakedapplepie> i liked that joke yesterday
15:56 < abakedapplepie> 'we looked at our github bill and decided it was cheaper to buy them'
15:58 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, you do a full reset?
15:58 < abakedapplepie> yeah
15:58 < Hunterkll> Nightcinder, honestly, Azure would have been cheaper for github anyway
15:58 < Hunterkll> lol
15:58 < abakedapplepie> i think im gonna do a no backup reset tonight
15:58 < Hunterkll> Azure usually is cheaper at scale than AWS
15:58 < Hunterkll> :P
15:58 < abakedapplepie> see if its something in my backup
15:58 < abakedapplepie> or what
15:58 < Nightcinder> well we know they use(d) AWS
15:58 < Hunterkll> ya i'm gonna say a 6S should be fine
15:58 < Hunterkll> lol
15:59 < abakedapplepie> i wouldnt be surprised if microsoft offered them a deal on azure when they moved their source code to github
15:59 < abakedapplepie> "you scratch my back ill scratch yours" type thing
15:59 < abakedapplepie> and that those talks probably ballooned to the buyout
15:59 < abakedapplepie> github:"we need money" etc
15:59 < Nightcinder> 'we have no money pls buy us'
15:59 < Nightcinder> pls
15:59 < abakedapplepie> right
16:01 < Hunterkll> lol
16:01 < ravioli> how much did they buy it for?
16:01 < abakedapplepie> 7.5b
16:01 < Hunterkll> in stock
16:01 < Hunterkll> not cash
16:01 < Hunterkll> my company got bought out in all cash
16:01 < Hunterkll> for a similar amount
16:01 < Hunterkll> that's a total fuck you :P
16:01 < abakedapplepie> heh
16:02 < SynMonger> sounds like someone didn't get their golden parachute
16:02 < Hunterkll> nah i'm still here
16:02 < Hunterkll> lol
16:03 < SynMonger> so a golden shower instead?
16:03 < Hunterkll> I have been doing government work since 2014....
16:03 < abakedapplepie> thats his fetish
16:03 < Hunterkll> ---
16:03 < Hunterkll> ---
16:03 < Hunterkll> -_-
16:03 < Hunterkll> even
16:05 < alazare619> TIL Hunterkll is a sadist
16:06 < Hunterkll> wat\
16:06 < ravioli> so yeah, Hunterkll, 20% done
16:06 < Hunterkll> how the fuck did you get that?
16:06 < Hunterkll> ravioli, did you parallelize the fuck out of it yet?
16:06 < felda> this is literally alazare619 working in a retirement home  https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8oplv5/ive_made_a_huge_mistake_and_i_dont_know_a_way_to/
16:06 <+layer-eight> * felda →  I've made a huge mistake. And I don't know a way to get out. : sysadmin
16:06 < alazare619> Hunterkll: you work for the goverment
16:06 < ravioli> i found a python script that does what i want and started using it without fully understanding how it works Hunterkll
16:06 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  never met a single person in IT working for the goverment that wasn't a sadist
16:06 < Hunterkll> lol
16:07 < ravioli> you can call me r4v10l1_420_xXx
16:07 < Hunterkll> alazare619, i mean, we are a publicly traded company
16:07 < Hunterkll> lol
16:07 <+TuxedoJack> alazare619: never met a single person in IT who wasn't a sadist (or masochist, depending on if they had to support Macs)
16:08 < Hunterkll> alazare619, We also own a luxury jet manufacturer, commercial and military aircraft servicing facilities, manufacture munitions, etc
16:08 < felda> TuxedoJack I too enjoy forcing my vision of a pfsense only Dystopia upon my users too
16:10 < felda> My entire life's joy comes from making a change and getting approval from management to tell the users to suck an egg.
16:11 < SynMonger> that's truly living the dream
16:11 < AnimalFarmPig> 2019 will be the year of the pfsense desktop
16:12 < corn266> What's the point of telling someone to suck an egg? How does that even make sense?
16:12 < felda> thank you AnimalFarmPig for supporting my glorious vision
16:12 < Hatter> corn266: Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs
16:13 < ebol4> anyone ever get that marilyn manson surgery
16:13 < AnimalFarmPig> "It's a roundabout insult to someone by comparing them to a dog.  In the 19th century, at least in America and possibly in Britain, sucking eggs is what dogs were reputed to do on the sly."
16:13 < AnimalFarmPig> ebol4: I heard Marilyn Manson got that surgery
16:13 < corn266> nice
16:14 < felda> corn266 enjoy https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/185777/what-is-the-origin-of-go-suck-an-egg
16:14 <+layer-eight> * felda →  etymology - What is the origin of "go suck an egg"? - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange
16:15 < felda> though its strict meaning has been lost and the confusion of the idiom to teach your grandma to suck an egg also comes into play
16:15 < felda> In America it generally just has the connotation of telling someone they can absolutely fuck right off, right this instant
16:16 < abakedapplepie> what the fuck did you say about my grandma
16:16 < td34> anyone an excel pro
16:16 < td34> trying to do if this then if this or if this or if this
16:16 < td34> in excel lol
16:16 < abakedapplepie> youre doing what
16:16 < Hatter> abakedapplepie: that she already knows full well how to suck eggs and that you're embarrassing yourself when trying to teach her how to
16:16 < ravioli> td34: yes.
16:17 < ravioli> td34: i find it easiest to separate it out into other columns, but it's possible to do it in one big gross function
16:17 < td34> ok i'll do it the nicer way
16:17 < td34> lol
16:17 < abakedapplepie> just write vb
16:17 < abakedapplepie> i hate doing shit in excel not in vb
16:17 < abakedapplepie> having a mishmash of formulae across 3 sheets annoys me
16:17 < asimon> td34: nested if's are annoying but doable
16:18 < ebol4> i have literally never heard of anyone telling someone else to teach their grandmother to suck eggs
16:18 < abakedapplepie> me either
16:18 < abakedapplepie> ever
16:18 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:18 < ebol4> is that like an alabama thing
16:18 < Hatter> because you're not meant to
16:18 < Hatter> she already knows
16:18 < ravioli> td34: normally i'll have columns next to the data that have IF functions, where it'll print true or false (or 1 or 0). and you can have one column per condition. then you can run conditionals on THOSE columns too.
16:18 < SynMonger> I had a user come back from a conference recently and tell me, "one of the guest speakers told us not to take 'no' from IT anymore. If they say no they're just lazy."
16:18 < Hatter> it's a british thing
16:19 < asimon> =IF(cond1,IF(cond2,1true2true,1true2false),1false)
16:19 < ravioli> td34: like asimon said, you can do it with nested ifs in one, but it's gross
16:19 < ravioli> yeah ugh
16:19 < asimon> The more I work with excel the more I prefer to do things in an actual programming language
16:19 < ravioli> i wish google sheets supported python formulas. or some other language. how cool would that be?
16:19 < asimon> even basic things like graphing
16:20 < AnimalFarmPig> I heard that Excel supports SQL
16:20 < td34> do you know the formula for the nested ifs? i'm looking for if $A == Blue {If $B == 1 then x, if $B == 2 then y}
16:20 < td34> but then id like to do if $A == Red at the end of the statement lol
16:21 < ravioli> sql also has ugly nested CASE WHEN statements :(
16:21 < td34> i can't use V
16:21 < td34> VB
16:21 < td34> i think it's blocked lol
16:21 < ravioli> td34: =IF($A = "Blue",X,IF($B = 2, Y, "somethingelse"))?
16:22 < ravioli> something like that
16:22 < ravioli> it's =IF(conditional, value if true, value if false)
16:22 < ravioli> oh, i swapped those in my example then. sorry.
16:22 < ravioli> td34: https://exceljet.net/formula/nested-if-function-example
16:22 <+layer-eight> * ravioli →  Excel formula: Nested IF function example | Exceljet
16:23 < td34> ravioli that is wathat i was thinking (with your code) but it doesn#t seem tow ork
16:23 < td34> i'll give it another go
16:23 < Sousapro> excel formulas
16:23 < vinrock> oh god excel chat
16:23 < vinrock> triggered
16:23  * Sousapro starts throwing holy water and garlic around the room
16:24 < Sousapro> I "don't know office" for end users at this point
16:24 < Sousapro> I've been pulled into so much stupid over the last ten years that it's in the businesses best interests for me to not "know" office
16:24 < AnimalFarmPig> td34: is each step in your nested-if a binary choice? In that case, you can easily unroll it to a single if
16:24 < vinrock> i just refuse to hold hands for the lazy
16:24 < vinrock> tellem to git gud and stfu
16:25 < vinrock> theyre the ones who actually need to use office
16:25 < Sousapro> vinrock: I like the excel spreadsheet databases
16:25 < vinrock> i use excel to make pretty tables
16:25 < vinrock> thats it
16:25 < Sousapro> vinrock: or business critical access databases
16:25 < vinrock> ugh i lived in that world early in my career
16:25 < Sousapro> vinrock: same, connect it over to a real DB to feed it data
16:25 < AnimalFarmPig> td34: say you have three different `if`'s, you can represent the possible outcomes as 000, 001, 010, 011, etc.
16:27 < td34> AnimalFarmPig: um it's not binary
16:27 < vinrock> .yt if if if if
16:27 < td34> it's if it's 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5
16:27 < td34> oh
16:27 < vinrock> aw
16:27 < td34> ye
16:27 < AnimalFarmPig> ah, too bad. You can do it with non binary, but it gets complicated
16:27 < td34> sure true of false for each if
16:27 < asimon> td34: =IF(A1="Blue",IF(B1=1,"x",IF(B1=2,"y",NA())),NA())
16:29 < AnimalFarmPig> "if" is a the middle word in "life" https://youtu.be/1kqFwVuQ-Hg?t=3m42s
16:29 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kqFwVuQ-Hg&feature=youtu.be&t=3m42s → YouTube → Apocalypse Now -- Arrival → ⚘ 923,146 ↑ 2,303 ↓ 84 ✍ 872 → * Content Restrictions
16:29 < asimon> roughly equal to if A=="Blue{if B==1{return x} elif B==2{return y} else{return NA}} else{return NA}
16:30 < td34> figured it out
16:30 < td34> thanks guys
16:30 < td34> :)
16:30 <+ihre> hmm, business laptop with 16-24g ram, i7 8550/8650, max 14 inch, wat do?
16:30 < AnimalFarmPig> 👍
16:31 < JollyRgrs> ihre: give to me?
16:31 <+ihre> JollyRgrs: sure, post your address here in the channel and i'll send it asap
16:31 < JollyRgrs> 123 Sesame St, NY, NY
16:31 <+ihre> No zip code?
16:31 < syere> can you tell me how to get to sesame st?
16:32 < JollyRgrs> u can figure that out
16:32 < JollyRgrs> i wasn't going to google for it
16:32 < AnimalFarmPig> ihre: Thinkpad 25 would fit the bill, but it's previous generation i7
16:32 <+ihre> JollyRgrs: no laptop for you then, too bad
16:32 < JollyRgrs> ihre: xps 13 doesn't fit the bill?
16:32 <+ihre> i have a xps 13 right now, 9660
16:32 <+ihre> but not really a fan
16:32 <+ihre> current laptop goes to another coworker, and i get a new one \o/
16:33 < AnimalFarmPig> Thinkpad 25 is a i7-7500U
16:33 < AnimalFarmPig> ticks all the other boxes though
16:33 <+ihre> was thinking of a t480s
16:33 < onicrom> i have the xps13 dev version
16:33 < onicrom> pretty happy with it
16:33 < AnimalFarmPig> the 25 is basically a T-series with a better keyboard
16:33 <+ihre> fwiw, i just Hate those 1 piece touchpads :p
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> even though I don't use them. Still a dumb idea.
16:34 < ravioli> what about the IBM® Trackpoint®?
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ why would one use anything else?
16:35 < AnimalFarmPig> I disable the touchpad in BIOS as soon as I get a new laptop.
16:35 <+ihre> ie, if that xps 13 had some kind of notch where the 'middle mouse button' is, that would already be a huge improvement, but its just a line which you cant see when its past 10pm :p
16:36 < ravioli> mac trackpads are fantastic fwiw
16:36 <+ihre> also 1 piece
16:36 < ravioli> but done right
16:36 <+ihre> so broken by design :D
16:42 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: i can't stand mac trackpads
16:42 < vinrock> lies
16:42 < vinrock> you love mac trackpads
16:42 < alazare619> i really wana move to hyper-v on my desktop machine but vmware workstation is so good
16:43 < Alternity> i like virtualbox for desktop vms
16:43 < vinrock> virtualbox is pretty rad
16:43 < vinrock> it seems to chew through about anything that wont run on other hypervisors
16:43 < derpingit> whadap everybody!
16:43 < JollyRgrs> s/rad/sad
16:43 <+layer-eight> [SED JollyRgrs/vinrock] virtualbox is pretty sad
16:44 < vinrock> dont be a rude dude
16:44 < alazare619> our cluster is esxi so vmware workstation works really well in that sense
16:44 < alazare619> but for desktop shit it sucks :(
16:44 < vinrock> ive been meaning to redo my desktop
16:45 < vinrock> gona see what its like living with fedora workstation and windows in mvk with gpu passthru
16:45 < vinrock> er
16:45 < vinrock> kvm
16:45 < vinrock> dafuq i just went dyslexic for a second
16:46 < Nightcinder> Science fiction aside, advanced sex robots are currently heating up the market, with several companies now offering more and more life-like artificial partners, mostly ones mimicking women. Skeptics fear the desirable droids could escalate misogyny and violence against women, ignite deviant urges in pedophiles, or further isolate the sexually frustrated.
16:46 < Nightcinder> i'm sorry what
16:46 <+ihre> it works pretty good, have been using such a setup for about 3 years now vinrock
16:46 < felda> I once heard vinrock describe nano as "succulent and juicy"
16:46 < Nightcinder> i've lived in a happy world where i didn't know sex robots were a thing
16:46 < vinrock> that's how i describe everything
16:47 < vinrock> ihre thats good to hear
16:47 < felda> vinrock are you me?
16:47 < vinrock> brother?
16:47 < Nightcinder> COUSIN
16:47 < Nightcinder> LETS GO BOWLING
16:47 < felda> Nightcinder this kind of sex robot?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvh32fQ8nNI
16:47 <+layer-eight> * felda →  YouTube → WKUK Sex Robot → ⚘ 298,333 ↑ 2,978 ↓ 66 ✍ 215
16:47 <+ihre> vinrock: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10728269 w/ a pretty old gpu by now
16:47 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 video card benchmark result - Intel Core i5-6600K Processor,
16:47 < felda> Did you know that girls don't like being described as succulent and juicy?
16:47 < felda>  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:48 < vinrock> not too shabby
16:48 < Nightcinder> felda: when they have a nice ass you can call it that
16:48 < Nightcinder> then it's ok
16:51 <+ihre> vinrock: one tip, get a usb hub which you can pass through to the vm, instead of individual devices
16:51 < vinrock> ah shit good point
16:51 <+TuxedoJack> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17428534/intel-core-i7-8086k-anniversary-limited-edition-computex-2018
16:51 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  Intel announces limited edition 5GHz Core i7-8086K anniversary CPU - The Verge
16:52 <+TuxedoJack> Shut up and take my money
16:52 <+TuxedoJack> Just for the fuckin' name
16:52 <+TuxedoJack> *Model number
16:52 <+ihre> vinrock: and add http://www.evonide.com/non-root-gpu-passthrough-setup/ to your bookmarks
16:52 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  ⚓  https://www.evonide.com/non-root-gpu-passthrough-setup/ → Non-root GPU passthrough setup | Guides - Evonide
16:52 <+TuxedoJack> Throw that in an ugly-as-shit beige case with a beige keyboard, and possibly mod an LCD to be in a CRT-style beige case to look like a flat-glass Trinitron
16:54 < vinrock> i actually have one of those lexar professional workstation hubs that i can pass thru, i pretty much just need windows for photoshop & lightroom
16:55 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm disappointed in the lack of beige computer equipment in the last ~20 years
16:55 < AnimalFarmPig> I like beige
16:57 < vinrock> jesus christ
16:57 < vinrock> im like hey it aint been that long since i had a beige pc
16:57 < vinrock> then relize aw damn im old
16:57 < vinrock> it has been like 20 years
16:59 < Hatter> beige is the worst
16:59 < Hatter> I know it seemed ok back then but it wasn't
16:59 < alazare619> anyone off hand know of hte hp z240 is full height or half height pci-e cards?
16:59 < alazare619> need to spec out new radiology stations
16:59 < vinrock> depends
16:59 < vinrock> i think the z series comes in three form factors
16:59 < vinrock> the ones i have are full towers
17:02 < alazare619> ffs cant find any z workstations with the specs i want
17:03 < silentfury-s4pro> talk to cdw
17:03 < silentfury-s4pro> dont deal with hp direct
17:03 < silentfury-s4pro> ITS A TRAP
17:04 < scwizard> ahh
17:04 < scwizard> i don't even know if I have anything to do today
17:05 < abakedapplepie> oh wow
17:05 < abakedapplepie> after 4 years our phone vendor finally acknowledged theres a hardware problem with these devices
17:05 < abakedapplepie> after they refused to repair out of warranty phones this whole time
17:05 < abakedapplepie> so we've been forcing customers to replace phones for years
17:05 < asimon> scwizard: I feel that. I'm still expected to bill hours so I feel a lil guilty but all my projects are either stalled or out of my hands at the moment
17:06 < abakedapplepie> good lord i feel vindicated
17:06 < abakedapplepie> but also i feel like they owe us thousands
17:06 < scwizard> asimon: I'm currently at "Your Aurora Database "production-database-cluster" was failed to be created from your source MySQL database. The idb file for the "expecigic" table is corrupted. Please fix the data source and re-attempt the migration. We apologize for the inconvenience."
17:06 < scwizard> as far as I can tell there's no such thing as the "expecigic"
17:06 < asimon> Is that even a word?
17:06 < scwizard> no such table exists or has ever existed, it's just random letters to me
17:07 < scwizard> so I told them such and they said "sorry sorry sorry sorry we'll get back to you"
17:07 < scwizard> and that's where I am now
17:07 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:07 < abakedapplepie> looks like a typo to me
17:07 < scwizard> gotta wait for the indian support ppl to ping the us engineers and then back
17:07 < abakedapplepie> youll get the typo fixed in 2 weeks
17:07 < abakedapplepie> but that fix caused another typo
17:08 < scwizard> last time I attempted this it was stuck for 3 days and they said it was because of network issues in the AZ
17:08 < scwizard> so I attempted it again, takes another 12 hours, and they say it's because of a nonexistent corrupted table
17:10 < scwizard> and they still haven't told me the scale of time this operation is supposed to take, despite my repeated requests
17:11 < AnimalFarmPig> these are AWS support guys?
17:11 < scwizard> yup...
17:11 < scwizard> i have an aws support backchannel
17:11 < abakedapplepie> oh man thats aws?
17:11 < scwizard> there's a USTZ guy from aws who told me I can pm them on reddit if I have to
17:11 < abakedapplepie> rip
17:12 <+SpeakerToMeat> I just, I came up with something terrible.
17:12 <+SpeakerToMeat> No, it's ot where can I say this
17:13 < scwizard> but the thing is I don't want to be the guy that escalates every case via a backchannel
17:13 < abakedapplepie> huh one of the new guys that has been calling in since thursday was just removed from our ticketing system
17:13 < abakedapplepie> weird
17:13 < Bru-> morn
17:13 < Bru-> anyone here manage an airwatch environment?
17:13 < XV8> Idk what I just got myself into but I reported a few domains of scam recruiters to the FBI tips site and notified the companies they claim they are representing. I feel like I did a good service, I think.
17:14 < Nightcinder> Hatter:
17:14 < Nightcinder> were you the one looking for an amp?
17:14 < ebol4> XV8: you're gonna get whacked
17:14 < XV8> RIP
17:14 < Nightcinder> weed whacked?
17:14 < Nightcinder> https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-cth-sdac-dac-amp is back in stock
17:15 < abakedapplepie> in 6 months XV8 is going to trip on a bullet
17:15 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  ⚓  https://www.massdrop.com/?origin=%252Fbuy%252Fmassdrop-cth-sdac-dac-amp → Massdrop: Community-Driven Commerce
17:15 < XV8> Swimming with the fishes
17:15 < scwizard> Bru-: what I've learned from this channel, is just how specalized some ppls domains are
17:15 < scwizard> it's pretty humbling how little i know about what pretty much everyone else here does
17:15 < khelpw> Nightcinder: CTH > NFB?
17:16 < Bru-> scwizard: right?
17:16 < Bru-> its why i hang out here
17:16 < Bru-> learn some stuf
17:16 < Nightcinder> khelpw: it's different
17:16 < Bru-> hang out with cool kats
17:16 < Nightcinder> for hd6xx i'd probably lean CTH
17:16 < hxcsp> Bru-: we are all the cool kids
17:16 < khelpw> well, CTH VS R2R I suppose
17:16 < XV8> Also I hate that GoDaddy uses masking to hide the registrants of those domains so you can't catch them in their shitm
17:16 < Nightcinder> most people don't buy the r2r
17:16 < khelpw> Most people are cucks
17:16 < khelpw> :D
17:16 < XV8> WHOIS Query protection I mean
17:16 < khelpw> (I bought an NFB)
17:17 < Nightcinder> (i have better headphones)
17:17 < khelpw> in my defense, the R2R11 wasn't out when I did tho
17:17 < khelpw> I also don't really have anything that would benefit significantly from it
17:17 < khelpw> Yeah you do.
17:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> I need a room where I can rant about unconnected things
17:19 <+A-KO> for the love of god lol
17:19 <+A-KO> coworkers...
17:21 < asimon> Code_Man65: back to work
17:21 < scwizard> ok! I figured out what to do today
17:21 < scwizard> i can prepare my presentation for a meetup
17:21 < F34RInc> A-KO, how did they make it to work without getting hit by a bus
17:21 < scwizard> can't really bill for that but
17:21 < scwizard> it's something to do with my time that's kinda worky and focused, since i'm at the office ya know
17:22 <+A-KO> Issue only occurs o ncoldboot: Windows 10 won't find the network and won't process GPO. Eventually, it all works. Their solutions to this include: Updating NIC driver, disabling fast boot, delaying GPO processing, "wait for link" configuration in Windows NIC driver settings
17:22 <+A-KO> now
17:22 <+A-KO> keep in mind
17:22 <+A-KO> they've probably been at this for a fucking while
17:22 <+A-KO> weeks
17:22 <+A-KO> trying to figure this out
17:23 < F34RInc> weeks
17:23 <+A-KO> My SINGLE FUCKING QUESTION TO THEM
17:23 <+A-KO> "Is spanning tree portfast enabled on these ports?"
17:23 <+A-KO> ^ likely the problem
17:23 <+A-KO> the problem ONLY occurs on cold boot, which means spanning tree's trying to figure its shit out and the PC is booted before that's completed.
17:24 <+A-KO> very fucking likely that's the issue
17:24 <+A-KO> VERY likely
17:25 < Phixit> Intel Unveils 28-core/56-thread HEDT Processor
17:25 < Phixit> 28c at 5GHz ?
17:25 < Phixit> :D
17:25 < derpingit> holeshet
17:25 < derpingit> only 10k
17:26 <+A-KO> I'm not going to like
17:26 <+A-KO> Intel totally had fucking fun with that name
17:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> lmao
17:26 <+A-KO> i7-8086K
17:26 <+A-KO> they did that shit on purpose
17:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> Just saw a job listing for "IT Specialist"
17:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> THey want.. Software Dev... Databsae ADmin... Network ADmin
17:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> and AS400 admin
17:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> hahahahah wtf
17:26 < F34RInc> McDonaldsWiFi, for 35K
17:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> they better pay 200k... which is all of those salary's combined
17:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> F34RInc: ++
17:26 < technonerd> Jack of all trades we pay shit
17:27 < Phixit> IT God
17:27 <+ihre> ^_^ xbox one on standby turns on/off its nic every 6 hours or so, which triggered a spanning tree recalculation at home
17:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> database admin alone is a niche
17:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> so funny
17:28 < abakedapplepie> McDonaldsWiFi: theres a place by me who is looking for an "it technician"
17:29 < abakedapplepie> said it technician will be a one man shop handling ad, server maintenance, tier 2 and 3 help desk, pbx, software support, and website development/maintenance
17:29 < abakedapplepie> "it technician"
17:29 < abakedapplepie> not even systems administrator
17:29 < abakedapplepie> $45k too obv
17:29 < Nightcinder> i'm a sysadmin in name only
17:29 < Nightcinder> i do all of that for 53 in a 3 man shop
17:29 < darkscrypt> what are you in reality Nightcinder
17:29 < abakedapplepie> the job description was even longer than that
17:29 < Nightcinder> darkscrypt: everything
17:30 < Nightcinder> security, network, systems, helpdesk
17:30 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
17:30 < Nightcinder> does it run on a computer 'HEY FIX IT Nightcinder!"
17:31 < Nightcinder> i do love the users who think their little issues are more important then server issues
17:31 < abakedapplepie> the job as been up for 2 years
17:31 < abakedapplepie> er
17:31 < abakedapplepie> months
17:31 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:31 < abakedapplepie> 2 years would be really bad....
17:31 <+AnonymooseWork> 2 years
17:31 <+AnonymooseWork> what
17:31 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
17:31 < abakedapplepie> ive still considered taking it because it would look good on my resume
17:31 < abakedapplepie> and its managerial
17:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> wow
17:31 < abakedapplepie> but $45k for an it management/sysadmin position
17:31 < Nightcinder> IT Technician doesn't sound managerial
17:31 < abakedapplepie> is absurd
17:32 <+AnonymooseWork> abakedapplepie whut the f
17:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> so i wonder how they are managing without one
17:32 < Nightcinder> it sounds like level 1
17:32 < abakedapplepie> its actually "it technical manager"
17:32 < abakedapplepie> i just looked at it
17:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> sounds like SMB though
17:32 <+AnonymooseWork> yeah its manglement
17:32 <+AnonymooseWork> SMB
17:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> is it SMB? the workload may not be that bad
17:32 < abakedapplepie> its medium business
17:32 <+AnonymooseWork> SMB Manglement
17:32 <+AnonymooseWork> lol McDonaldsWiFi
17:32 <+ihre> possibly still better than being a startup CTO
17:32 < abakedapplepie> they have 3 locations across the country, its an ecommerce store with some physical presense
17:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> dude my workload now is so high I would take it
17:32 < abakedapplepie> they are a commercial sales company tho
17:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm the sole admin of 1100+ people
17:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> ofc I'm tring to escape this hellhole
17:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
17:33 < abakedapplepie> i would imagine its probably like 300 employees across the country
17:33 < abakedapplepie> i should send them my resume
17:33 < abakedapplepie> :|
17:34 < abakedapplepie> it would still  be a raise
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^
17:34 < abakedapplepie> which is sad
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> same here lmfao
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> life sucks
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> 40k to admin 1100 users
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> Tried to get help, turned down
17:34 < abakedapplepie> rip
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> tied for salary and a raise, turned down
17:34 < abakedapplepie> clearly youre doing your job too well
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> so first job i find i'm out
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> right? fuck me for working hard lol
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> and wanting user satisfaction
17:35 < abakedapplepie> you cant even ask to hire an intern at 30k or something lol
17:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> dude i asked for a part time $15 student
17:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> anything
17:35 < abakedapplepie> damn
17:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> ill take a high schooo kid, I can train them to do simple stuff
17:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
17:35 < abakedapplepie> ask if you can hire an unpaid intern
17:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> im over it, i've already checked out
17:35 < abakedapplepie> if youre near a college someone might need work hours
17:35 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh it gets better actually
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> they did hire someone
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> an IT director
17:36 < abakedapplepie> boss's nephew?
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> without any tech skills, she's business side only
17:36 < abakedapplepie> haha, wow
17:36 < abakedapplepie> what does she do
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> she meets with me, realized I run the entire show
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> and then asks me to audit my inventory
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> like wtf, i don't have time for that shit
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> she jsut started
17:37 < abakedapplepie> that seems incredibly oversighted
17:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> i feel like I'm in a dream lol
17:37 < abakedapplepie> why hire a director for a one man operation
17:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> Yeah the company changed management and its been a shit show since
17:37 < abakedapplepie> oh
17:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> honestly, I think they are going to pump me of info and hrie someone at HQ
17:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> so if any of you want to hire a sysadmin for ecommute, I'm ya boy lol
17:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> i've got nough money to last a year unemployed, I thought about just bouncung. But the gap looks bad on applications
17:42 < abakedapplepie> if you can keep the gap down to like 2-3 months its not that bad
17:42 < abakedapplepie> just lie and say you spent time with your family and were looking into relocating or something
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah I'm thinking about it
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> cause i'm seriously going grey lol
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> well not serioulsy
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
17:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> But I'm taking years off my life xD
17:47 < syere> Normally im a huge fan of waiting till you find a new job. But in your case, I think i'd give them a months notice and walk. Take two weeks just to decompress from this job, then start the search up
17:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> that's a good idea
17:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> cept there's like 2 huge projects coming up in a month
17:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> I don't want to be involved lol
17:48 < syere> so dont be
17:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> man I like you
17:49 < vinrock> i think my synology is getting the atom bug
17:49 < syere> I've been in your situation more than once, and you are already a leg ahead of where I was the first time, you have savings
17:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> its still scary tbh
17:49 < vinrock> 3yr2mo rock solid 24/7, all of a sudden its blinkenlights and no talkie any more
17:49 < syere> oh absolutely!
17:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> and my resume isn't thick
17:49 < syere> It doesn't matter
17:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> only 2 years exp with 2 year degree
17:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> hard to find jobs
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> ive been on the active search for 3 months now
17:50 < syere> are you over the drinking age?
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol yeah
17:50 < syere> do you mind telling me a general area where you are? like, closest major city?
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> Western KY
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> closest major... probably Owensboro but its not aht major
17:50 < syere> closer to TN or IL
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> so evansille IN is closer
17:50 < ebol4> what's with otherwise normal people being so weird in the office bathroom
17:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> 45 mins south of the IN tip
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> maybe 1 hour south
17:51 < ebol4> i just saw a man wash his hands, then piss, then wash his hands again
17:51 < syere> gotcha. Are you tied to that area?
17:51 < vinrock> fuck tech you should go build a still in the woods
17:51 < vinrock> become a moonshiner
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> ebol4: lol maybe his hands were dirty and dint' want to make his dick dirty
17:51 < mrghostman> ebol4: probably ate something spicy
17:51 < vinrock> livin' the dream
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> syere: yeah.. trying to convince the wife to move
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> she's very active in her church here and doesn't want to leave it
17:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> just one of those things haha
17:52 <+ihre> play some norwegian death metal, burn some churches, seems fixable
17:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
17:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> ill find something, its not impossible
17:52 <+ihre> or is it black metal ... ?
17:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> tbh if I was free during the day a job search wouldbe easier
17:52 < syere> Well, the only thing I can give you advice on is, when you go home, get a beer or whatever. write out any pros of staying at your job and the area you are in. Write out the cons. Now you have a complete list of the decision you are facing. Let the info sink in, and now it's time to go talk to the Wife. Either way you are miserable where you are right?
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> yup
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've been trying to get her to move to a larger city for a year now
17:53 < syere> ok so
17:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> more IT jobs in the bigger cities
17:53 < syere> Make a plan. Talk to the wife. Say you are putting in a 4 week notice. It saves your sanity, AND it gets you out of the bigger hell of projects you dont want to do
17:53 < syere> Next make a time line
17:54 < syere> If you can't find a job in the first 3 months, then it is time to move to a bigger city for jobs there
17:55 < syere> it's a flat out gamble. You may get the city, she may keep her church. but either way, it's the best move for BOTH of you
17:55 < scwizard> bleh
17:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> :/
17:55 < scwizard> it took me like a year to find a new job
17:55 < scwizard> hopefully you have an easier time than I did
17:55 < McDonaldsWiFi> :(
17:56 < khelpw> Worst case - sling dick and suck crack
17:56 < syere> McDonaldsWiFi: remember that Chattanooga is HUGE with IT
17:56 < khelpw> still beats your current job
17:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah I've heard that area is exploding
17:56 < JFDkthx> yuge
17:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> hell even Clarksville has a shit load of jobs
17:56 < syere> dont go to clarksville
17:56 < syere> I hated living there
17:56 < syere> so so so much
17:56 < McDonaldsWiFi> speaking of, anyone in the Clarksville area.. there's IT jobs open at the ne LG electronics facotry
17:56 < JFDkthx> clarksville would have been nice if the plant finished
17:56 < JFDkthx> but they closed it in what 2015?
17:57 <+AnonymooseWork> brbf ud time
17:57 < syere> nothing made that place or could make that place ok
17:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> what about LG factory?
17:57 < JFDkthx> syere: propped up by apsu and fort campbell
17:57 < syere> JFDkthx: lived there for a year. was hell
17:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> fort campbell has a shit lod of jobs too
17:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> load*
17:58 < JFDkthx> syere: where you at now
17:58 < syere> McDonaldsWiFi: it sounds like you already made up your mind. Do your homework, talk to the wife, and make it happen
17:58 < syere> JFDkthx: Just got to Denver about four months ago. Was in Atlanta before that.
17:58 < JFDkthx> ah
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> how was atl?
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> bad as it sounds?
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> the people are super freaking nice in GA though
17:59 < syere> I believe so, but I am pretty biased against ATL
17:59 < syere> LOL, I think exactly the opposite. People were shit shows in GA
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> xDDD
17:59 < syere> But hey! Some people love it, and that's probably because they really disliked where they were
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> wow anyone i've talked to was so nice
17:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> funny
18:00 < syere> There are some inescapable facts about ATL
18:00 < syere> it will take you NO LESS than one hour to get to work, and to get home. Plan on 90 minutes each way
18:00 < syere> IT in ATL is standard legacy. There are not a lot of startups or booming IT places in ATL. It's all really boring, but it is stable
18:01 < technonerd> It rains a few drops and it's bumper to bumper
18:01 < syere> Chances are, if you ever have to go downtown at night for a work call, there's always a 20% likelihood that you will be shot at. But mostly everyone has terrible aim so you're fine
18:02 < abeNd-org> syere: when I was doing msp there my sales guy sold to places right off the Marta train north/south, he hated driving, which usually made my onsites easier
18:03 < syere> Im not going to lie. Marta scared the crap out of me
18:03 < Nightcinder> ASUS' new ZenBook Pro has launched with one big new standout feature: a touchscreen in place of the traditional laptop trackpad. The ScreenPad uses a Windows Precision Touchpad floating over a 5.5-inch FHD IPS display. These two technologies mean that people can both push their cursor around and interact with their laptops in a whole new way.
18:03 < Nightcinder> i guess it makes sense since the trackpads are glass now..
18:03 < abeNd-org> syere me too, but back then I wore a east german army trench coat & no one bothered me
18:04 < syere> hey that's fair.
18:04 < syere> I knew I was done when I stopped running for cover when I heard gun fire
18:06 < syere> oh!! abeNd-org McDonaldsWiFi : If you can manage it, there is a town in GA called Cumming (yea, jokes are just as old as the name). BUT! It is directly above alpharetta. If you are looking for a solid long term state move, look into those two town. You'll be set for a good long time.
18:06 < gnupluslinux> Is there a linux driver for that then
18:07 < abeNd-org> syere I havent been in GA for ages, but my coworker lived in CummingsGA..no end of jokes about the place
18:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> thanks but i doubt my wife will go that far xD
18:07 < syere> Just spitballing some ideas for ya :)
18:07 < abakedapplepie> sanity check, if i remove replication on hyper-v vm, the replicated vm will not be automatically removed will it
18:08 < abakedapplepie> abeNd-org: we have some good names in MI
18:08 < abakedapplepie> Climax, Hell, i think there is a cumming too
18:09 < khelpw> NJ wins town names. Ho Ho Kus.
18:09 < abeNd-org> abakedapplepie: yep, lived in MI too, tried to forget as much of it as I can. I-69 exit to "Big Beaver Rd" in Troy MI...shesh, & people got paid to name stuff like that
18:09 < khelpw> Nothing further.
18:09 < abakedapplepie> lolol
18:09 < abakedapplepie> ever since i was a little kid i have always wondered why we dont have a little beaver rd
18:10 < vinrock> (12:09:42 PM) khelpw: NJ wins town names. Ho Ho Kus.
18:10 < vinrock> PA has the crown for that
18:10 < vinrock> Intercourse, PA
18:10 < khelpw> No, that's just dumb
18:11 < khelpw> I'm not talking silly potty humor.
18:11 < khelpw> Ho Ho Kus. That's the name of it
18:11 < vinrock> aint no humor like silly potty humor
18:11 < abakedapplepie> oh we also have a town named Podunk
18:11 < syere> I think it's hilarious how we can go from serious talks to making fun of town names like we are 12 in under five seconds.
18:11 < abakedapplepie> and Colon
18:12 < abakedapplepie> oh and flushing
18:12 < abakedapplepie> sheesh
18:12 < syere> While driving to Texas once, I came across a Eutaw Alabama. It took me no less than five minutes to figure out what that word was.
18:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> Utah?
18:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
18:12 < abakedapplepie> and all the ridiculous indian names like kalamazoo, kawkawlin, gogebic, keewadin
18:12 < syere> yes
18:13 < SynMonger> ouachita
18:13 < SynMonger> wa-shi-taw
18:13 < abeNd-org> abakedapplepie: don't forget Depression MI, err, oh wait, that would be the Tri-cities
18:13 < tapoxi> here in good ol ma we have lake chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg
18:13 < syere> I'm just driving down the road like "the fuck? e-u-taw? uutaw? No, no that can't be Utah. what the actual fuckity fuck"
18:15 < SynMonger> there's Toad Suck, Arkansas... oh and Booger Hollow
18:15 < tapoxi> https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5307/5676637554_59ff9b3b38_b.jpg
18:15 <+layer-eight> * tapoxi →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 422,099 bytes
18:18 < syere> McDonaldsWiFi: there is always your other option..... it's a bit more dastardly
18:19 < JFDkthx> this black and blue cheese burger is so good
18:19 < JFDkthx> + tots for 5 dollas
18:19 < SynMonger> did it beat your tastebuds in to submission?
18:20 < JFDkthx> no
18:20 < JFDkthx> it kissed them
18:20 < mrghostman> from where JFDkthx
18:20 < SynMonger> black and blue sounds a little abusive
18:20 < JFDkthx> my work cafe
18:23 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi:  Nashville police say fired worker killed gym owner with a hatchet. He’s still on the run.
18:23 < Hunterkll> yea well
18:23 < Hunterkll> fuk da police
18:24 < mrghostman> need hatchet control laws
18:24 < syere> no one needs a semi-automatic chopping tool
18:24 < Hunterkll> YOU GOT A LOICENSE FOR DAT HATCHET BOI
18:24 < technonerd> Better sell dull knifes now
18:24 < technonerd> Mandate
18:24 <@ravioli> so uhh i have a weird question on screen
18:24 < Hunterkll> ?
18:24 < Hunterkll> ravioli, i have a weird answer
18:24 < Hunterkll> :3
18:25 <@ravioli> i have a script running that i started in a screen session
18:25 <@ravioli> i have another script in another screen session
18:25 <@ravioli> ...but i can only see the second screen session listed when i do screen -ls
18:25 <@ravioli> i can't see the first one
18:26 <@ravioli> and the name i used ("bot") won't attach when i try to reattach because it says it doesn't exist
18:26 <@ravioli> but the script is running
18:26 < Hunterkll> maybe you bg'd the script somehow
18:26 < Hunterkll> and the session is kill
18:26 < Hunterkll> check your bash backgrounds?
18:26 <@ravioli> it's running dongerdong
18:26 <@ravioli> which is online
18:26 < Hunterkll> might not be running in the screen session anymore
18:27 <@ravioli> weird
18:27 < vavkamil> hello
18:27 <@ravioli> hi vavkamil
18:30 < servchan> boooooooooom
18:31 < vinrock> yo
18:31 < vinrock> beef negimaki, ton katsu or chicken teriyaki bento box
18:31 < silentfury-s4pro> chicken teriyaki
18:32 < vinrock> boosh it is decided
18:32 < khelpw> Grade A5 wagyu steak or gtfo
18:32 < vinrock> ugh i had wagyu at hot pot last week
18:32 < vinrock> if i was rich id eat that shit every meal
18:32 < khelpw> So just buy some from costco
18:32 < vinrock> costco sells it?
18:32 < vinrock> whoa
18:32 < khelpw> Yeah. You just have to buy 12 lbs https://www.costco.com/Japanese-Wagyu-Boneless-Ribeye-Roast%2C-12-lbs.product.100311435.html
18:32 <+layer-eight> * khelpw →  Japanese Wagyu Boneless Ribeye Roast, 12 lbs
18:32 < vinrock> oh jesus
18:33 < khelpw> :D
18:33 <+orderchaos> It's my birthday today, what should I do to celebrate after work?
18:34 < khelpw> orderchaos: fight a cop
18:34 <+orderchaos> oh hey, when did layer-eight get resurrected?
18:34 < syere> orderchaos: whatever you want, it's your birthday!
18:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> 29.pocketmon            │11:18:47    +McDonaldsWiFi | so I got a job lead                                                                                                        │
18:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> 29.pocketmon            │11:18:47    +McDonaldsWiFi | so I got a job lead                                                                                                        │
18:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> uhh
18:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> wtf is my weechat doing
18:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> sry guys
18:37 < corn266> congrats McDonaldsWiFi
18:37 < Holo> You have won the ban of shame
18:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> hahah hey thanks
18:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> my weechat decided to copy some random lines in chat
18:37 < Holo> Lol
18:37 < corn266> ""random""
18:38 < corn266> `lucky
18:38  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at corn266, and spins (6 slots remaining)
18:38 <+layer-eight> *click* - Looks like you get to live another day corn266
18:38 < corn266> damn it
18:38 < grumplestiltzkin> that wagyu beef has some crazy marbling
18:38 < syere> `lucky
18:38  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at syere, and spins (6 slots remaining)
18:38 <+layer-eight> *click* - Looks like you get to live another day syere
18:38 < vinrock> dude it melts on your tongue
18:38 < vinrock> its so friggin good
18:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> :o
18:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> 29.pocketmon            │11:18:47    +McDonaldsWiFi | so I got a job lead                                                                                                        │
18:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> 29.pocketmon            │11:18:47    +McDonaldsWiFi | so I got a job lead                                                                                                        │
18:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> 29.pocketmon            │11:18:47    +McDonaldsWiFi | so I got a job lead                                                                                                        │
18:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> omfg
18:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> im rebooting my vm brb lol
18:39 < F34RInc> rekt
18:39 < corn266> `sjw
18:39 <+layer-eight> corn266, you're a narrow-minded, mansplaining, rich, pig!
18:39 < grumplestiltzkin> yeah, i've never had it.  only even learned that wagyu was a thing in the last year-ish.
18:40 < JFDkthx> can someone ban McDonaldsWiFi
18:40 < JFDkthx> for flooding
18:40 < JFDkthx> ravioli:
18:40 < corn266> holy shit that marbling though grumplestiltzkin
18:40 < JFDkthx> /voteban McDonaldsWiFi
18:40 < corn266> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagyu#/media/File:Sliced_Matsusaka_wagyu_beef.jpg
18:40 < grumplestiltzkin> corn266: srs
18:40 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  Wagyu - Wikipedia
18:40 < Casteil> see, that's just too much fat for me
18:41 < Casteil> I just like a straight up sirloin
18:41 < vinrock> fat = flavor
18:41 < corn266> fat gives it flavor
18:41 < grumplestiltzkin> ^
18:41 < JFDkthx> makes it tender
18:42 < Casteil> butter gives stuff flavor too but you don't see people making butter soup
18:42 < grumplestiltzkin> if you make sausage ever, same thing. you *need* X % of fat to carry the flavor and keep it from drying out (unless you are drying it
18:42 < JFDkthx> Casteil: motherfucker i butter baste steaks
18:42 < JFDkthx> everyone uses butter
18:42 < grumplestiltzkin> butter goes great on steak
18:42 < Casteil> my point is moderation
18:43 < grumplestiltzkin> even if its just a little table butter as an afterthought
18:43 < Casteil> 80% fat != moderation
18:43 < grumplestiltzkin> $100/lb steak (the wagyu), and you want to have 'moderation' ?
18:43 < Casteil> or 70% as that appears to be
18:44 < br14> Jesus github was valued at 7.5B? fml.
18:44 < vinrock> they also thought minecraft was worth 2.5B
18:45 < vinrock> lawl
18:45 < ebol4> you are invaluable br14
18:45 < br14> thank you ebo14
18:45 < vinrock> aw
18:45 < sadbox> vinrock: tbh minecraft seems a lot more reasonable price wise
18:45 < vinrock> kate spade killed herself
18:46 < ebol4> is she related to david spade
18:46 < mrghostman> RIP in peace
18:46 < Casteil> LinkedIn <-> Git integration, coming soon!
18:46 < vinrock> famous fashion designer from nyc
18:46 < JFDkthx> ebol4: brother in law
18:47 < Casteil> guarantee they integrate linkedin/github at some point
18:47 < sadbox> vinrock: it's literally the best selling video game ever made
18:47 < br14> LinkedIn <> GitHub <> Skype (teams whatever).  It's a headhunters wet dream.
18:47 < grumplestiltzkin> sadbox: more than tetris?
18:47 < sadbox> grumplestiltzkin: yep, it has surpassed tetris
18:47 < asimon> Man you guys are awful for my productivity. I just minimized kvirc for like an hour and I've been so good about doing work
18:47 < grumplestiltzkin> that's kind of nutty
18:47 < sadbox> early this year it hit >144 million copies sold, tetris IIRC was 140 million
18:48 < vinrock> nah tetris is at 170mil sold
18:48 < vinrock> according to wikipedia at least
18:48 < vinrock> so who knows where the fuck that umber came from
18:48 < vinrock> i aint clicking these shitty links
18:48 < SynMonger> tetris is 170 million
18:48 < vinrock> oh wow
18:48 < vinrock> gta5 is number 3
18:48 < sadbox> systemdave: TIL
18:48 < asimon> Also consider that tetris has a lot of users in arcades (or did) as opposed to minecraft which is entirely consumer based
18:48 < vinrock> no wonder rockstar hasnt made a new one
18:49 <+TuxedoJack> There's something magical about catching a Dell Sales rep violating CAN-SPAM
18:49 < grumplestiltzkin> also, does that number include all the offshoot tetris games?  like tetris world, etc
18:49 < sadbox> SynMonger: wikipedia lied to me
18:49 < sadbox> but, regardless
18:49 <+TuxedoJack> And CCing her manager on it, since it's not the first time you've requested that she remove your fucking helpdesk ticket system from her sales blasts
18:49 < sadbox> the second-most-sold-game-ever is not a bad title to have
18:49 < vinrock> i wish there was a BCC act i could report people on
18:49 < sadbox> especially w/ the amount of fucking merchandise and stuff that's in every store
18:50 < vinrock> fuckin port operators send out these huge email blasts to all the shippers and carriers and its just a goldmine of exposed email addresses
18:50 < sadbox> shit pubg is #6
18:50 < GodOfsea> Hello
18:50 < corn266> Isn't the isolation of security function from nonsecurity functions typically handled by the operating system?
18:50 < vinrock> so she killed herself with a scarf
18:50 < vinrock> what an edgelord
18:51 < JFDkthx> corn266: yeah, or by having separate accounts
18:51 < JFDkthx> corn266: or rather, separate people
18:51 < derpingit> hey all.. anyone use veeam extensibly ?
18:51 < GodOfsea> so we talking about pubg here ?
18:52 < JFDkthx> no one plays that shit game anymore
18:52 < corn266> yea it's posting fornite victories to snapchat or bust
18:52 < JFDkthx> they have lost half of their player base
18:52 < JFDkthx> corn266: went on a 6 game winstreak the other night
18:52 < JFDkthx> you can call me myth jr
18:52 < grumplestiltzkin> that wikipedia article says "Game was shipped with a console during its lifetime"     and is saying it applies to minecraft.   wtf console shipped with minecraft?
18:53 < JFDkthx> grumplestiltzkin: xbone
18:53 < corn266> you mean like tsm myth
18:53 < JFDkthx> prolly
18:53 < JFDkthx> corn266: ye
18:53 < corn266> kek
18:53 < corn266> call me shroudyrowdy
18:53 < GodOfsea> Anyone here made their own email server ?
18:53 < JFDkthx> PepoDance
18:53 < corn266> grumplestiltzkin: yea the xbone did
18:54 < asimon> TuxedoJack: I didn't know that CAN-SPAM was a thing but I'm loving it now that I'm reading about it
18:54 < asimon> "Each separate email in violation of the law is subject to penalties of up to $41,484, and more than one person may be held responsible for violations."
18:54 < asimon> holy shit
18:57 < JFDkthx> aw fuck
18:57 < JFDkthx> i did something i shouldnt have
18:57 < JFDkthx> i had something stuck in my gums in my back molar
18:57 < JFDkthx> and i tried to get it out with a toothpick
18:57 < JFDkthx> i ended up shoving it down in there more
18:57 < JFDkthx> and now it really hurts
18:58 < corn266> I heard if you put a goldfish in your mouth it'll eat out the food then you can swallow the goldfish for a quick snack
18:58 < JFDkthx> nice
18:58 <@ravioli> nice
18:58 < dragonfleas> had a panic attack at work this morning
18:58 < dragonfleas> i don't know where the fuck it came from
18:58 < JFDkthx> goldfish induced?
18:59 < Hunterkll> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-world-s-most-powerful-pocket-sized-pc
18:59 < Hunterkll> i put in for one
18:59 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  The World's Most Powerful Pocket-Sized PC | Indiegogo
18:59 < Hunterkll> thats fuckin crazy
18:59 < Hunterkll> 8GB ram lol
18:59 < corn266> dragonfleas it probably came from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program
18:59 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program - Wikipedia
19:00 < Hunterkll> i'm getting it with the 512GB SSD, gaming controller, and extra battery
19:00 < dragonfleas> I wonder if the z8750 can run dolphin
19:00 < dragonfleas> I would love to have a portable gamecube/wii emulator
19:01 < corn266> Oh JFDkthx have you ever had to deal with assured file transfer?
19:01 < JFDkthx> nope
19:01 < Hunterkll> that was money i probably shouldn't have spent
19:01 < Hunterkll> but oh well
19:01 < JFDkthx> Hunterkll: play crysis on it
19:01 < scwizard> Hunterkll: that's extremely silly
19:01 < JFDkthx> and it will be werf it
19:01 < Hunterkll> lol
19:02 < Hunterkll> scwizard, it has an HDMI port and ethernet
19:02 < scwizard> i stand by what I said
19:02 < Hunterkll> it's kinda neat
19:03 < Hunterkll> scwizard, and right now price is $159 so
19:03 < Hunterkll> honestly it was the 8GB ram that got me
19:03 < corn266> the atom processor didn't throw you off?
19:03 < JFDkthx> this is my new favourite subreddit
19:04 < JFDkthx> https://www.reddit.com/r/KidsAreFuckingStupid/
19:04 <+layer-eight> * JFDkthx →  Look how stupid these kids are
19:04 < scwizard> you get what you pay for
19:04 < scwizard> not all 8GB of RAM is created equal
19:04 < JFDkthx> s/this is my new favourite subreddit/im commander shepard and this is my new favourite subreddit
19:04 <+layer-eight> [SED JFDkthx] im commander shepard and this is my new favourite subreddit
19:05 < Nightcinder> asus
19:05 < Nightcinder> watrudoin
19:05 < Nightcinder> https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Product-shot_3-1440x1610.jpg
19:05 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 85,139 bytes
19:06 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: im buying one
19:06 < JFDkthx> first off
19:06 < Nightcinder> https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/JEDI-WAG13-1440x1440.jpg don't forget the cooling fan JFDkthx
19:06 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 14,541,419 bytes
19:06 < vinrock> https://thumbs.gfycat.com/KaleidoscopicRevolvingFlee-mobile.mp4
19:06 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  VIDEO/MP4 Document, 829,055 bytes
19:06 < asimon> Speaking of Asus
19:06 < vinrock> wtf is that
19:06 < JFDkthx> it will match my rog monitors, my rog strix 1080, my rog zenith extremem mobo
19:06 < vinrock> asus rog phone?
19:06 < JFDkthx> yeah
19:06 < asimon> did any of you have one of their laptops with the second power button that boots you into some weird asus-specific linux distro
19:06 < Nightcinder> https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/0N3A2114-f-1440x960.jpg
19:06 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 127,677 bytes
19:07 < grumplestiltzkin> ROG shoes
19:07 < JFDkthx> debuted at computex
19:07 < vinrock> i didnt know there was a laptop with second power button but that pre-boot linux is common on their higher end mobos
19:07 < vinrock> or, it used to be
19:07 < vinrock> i had a few with it
19:07 < vinrock> the cheaper ones just had a pre boot enviro you could load your own linux distro onto
19:07 < JFDkthx> if it feels decent in the hands, i'll definitely get it
19:07 <+TuxedoJack> asimon: yeah, I've requested three times that they remove our helldesk e-mail address from their marketing blasts
19:07 < asimon> It wasn't a preboot enviro
19:07 <+TuxedoJack> They didn't
19:07 < Nightcinder> JFDkthx: i wouldn't trust asus support
19:07 < asimon> It was a full fledged thing
19:07 < Hunterkll> corn266, nah, it really doesn't, it's a rather decent quad core iwth out of order execution
19:07 <+TuxedoJack> And they'd confirmed in writing three times that it had been done
19:08 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: never failed me with mobos
19:08 < JFDkthx> over the last 15 years
19:08 < Nightcinder> software wise.
19:08 < JFDkthx> oh
19:08 <+TuxedoJack> And now, they fucked up and linked to a local document rather than a functional unsub link
19:08 < JFDkthx> yeah
19:08 < JFDkthx> it's garbage
19:08 <+TuxedoJack> So I intend to nail that sales droid to the fucking wall
19:08 < felda> Neat Facts:  JFDkthx was the leader of his local Tea Party chapter
19:08 <+TuxedoJack> And wreck her career like Diana
19:08 <+TuxedoJack> ... or at least get her a reprimand, take your pick
19:08 < asimon> TuxedoJack: That's frustrating. Is there a cyber police kind of regulatory agency you can report to
19:08 < asimon> ?
19:09 <+TuxedoJack> asimon: civil penalties only
19:09 < Nightcinder> JFDkthx: bro
19:09 < Nightcinder> bro
19:09 < Nightcinder> https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/0N3A2223-f-1440x960.jpg
19:09 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 200,742 bytes
19:09 < Nightcinder> bro
19:09 < JFDkthx> looks good to me
19:09 < JFDkthx> i'll buy it
19:10 < vinrock> man that game hes playing looks super realistic
19:10 <+TuxedoJack> asimon: alternatively, I found her on LinkedIn and Indeed, and I have her direct number and home address
19:10 <+TuxedoJack> Cat Facts, anyone?
19:10 <+AnonymooseWork> lol TuxedoJack
19:10 < JFDkthx> i wish i had a giant desk like that
19:10 < JFDkthx> tho
19:10 < JFDkthx> holy shit
19:11 < JFDkthx> my gf needs to get a job so i can start spending money on myself instead of saving for a baby
19:11 < JFDkthx> who needs babbys
19:11 <+TuxedoJack> asimon: the unsub links - both for Dell and for the general shit - point to C:\Users\v-lecup\Desktop\55772_Dell_NDA_OFT\55772_Dell_NDA_Webinar.html
19:11 <+TuxedoJack> Looks like they have one fucking lazy copy editor
19:21 < Hatter> JFDkthx: gf eh? how did you manage that?
19:21 < Hatter> oh no, is she blind?
19:21 < corn266> yea JFDkthx you that's hereditary
19:21 < JFDkthx> Hatter: even if she was blind when she touches my face should would just have more to read
19:22 < Hatter> Nightcinder: Yes I'm halfway looking for an amp
19:22 < Nightcinder> the CTH is in stock
19:22 < Hatter> url please
19:22 < Nightcinder> https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-cth-sdac-dac-amp
19:23 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  ⚓  https://www.massdrop.com/?origin=%252Fbuy%252Fmassdrop-cth-sdac-dac-amp → Massdrop: Community-Driven Commerce
19:23 < Hatter> oh that's a bit dear
19:23 < Nightcinder> the amp is around $215 itself and the dac is $89ish
19:25 < Gigadoc2> GodOfsea: By "made", do you mean implementing an SMTP daemon or configuring one?
19:25 <@ravioli> i can't see the product without signing up
19:25 < Hatter> Nightcinder: fine I'll buy it
19:25 < Nightcinder> lol
19:25 < Nightcinder> ravioli: add ?mode=guest_open
19:25 < GodOfsea> full fledged mail server using postfix , dovecot and mysql or sqlite or something of that sort
19:25 < Hatter> Nightcinder: thanks for the tip, on this and the headphones
19:25 < Nightcinder> ya
19:26 < Hatter> Nightcinder: of course now you're a bit responsible should anything go wrong
19:26 <@ravioli> Nightcinder: wow i feel like a l33t h4x0r now
19:26 <@ravioli> thx
19:26 < Nightcinder> that works on any massdrop link
19:26 <@ravioli> what's the total price then?
19:26 < Gigadoc2> GodOfsea: I am using a combination of postfix + dovecot + mysql + rspamd for my mails
19:28 < GodOfsea> Gigadoc2 I configured a very similar setup yesterday only difference is spamassasin
19:28 < GodOfsea> The thing is I can receive mails , but not able to send it
19:28 < GodOfsea> idk my
19:29 < GodOfsea> *why
19:29 < GodOfsea> and cannot set it up with thunderbird
19:29 < GodOfsea> I followed this : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-mail-server-using-postfix-dovecot-mysql-and-spamassassin#step-5-configure-spamassassin
19:29 <+layer-eight> * GodOfsea →  How To Configure a Mail Server Using Postfix, Dovecot, MySQL, and SpamAssassin | DigitalOcean
19:34 < ebol4> what do the logs say
19:34 < vinrock> Abort? Retry? Ignore?
19:34 < Nightcinder> ravioli: 319.99
19:35 < JollyRgrs> in MS SQL, can i store a variable name in a variable?
19:35 < corn266> JFDkthx: is veracrypt approved by the NSA ?
19:36 < JollyRgrs> like, i want to store a long url string as a variable... but another var would be set that sets which var to use in a query
19:36 < corn266> like use the value as the name? maybe if you give it a javascript frontend
19:37 < JollyRgrs> corn266: this is a basic .sql type query for SSRS
19:37 <+AnonymooseWork> so you want to have @Var1=www.url.com/test/blah/var/
19:37 <+AnonymooseWork> and @Var2 set the url?
19:37 < JollyRgrs> yeah
19:38 <+AnonymooseWork> what exactly r u trying to do? set SSRS Parameters?
19:38 < JollyRgrs> like @var3 = @var2 or @var3=@var1
19:38 < JollyRgrs> AnonymooseWork: for office365, i have two CDNBaseURLs.. .one for semi-annual channel and one for semi-annual channel (targeted)
19:38 < JollyRgrs> I plan to store both of those CDN URL's in a var... and then have another var call which one of those to use
19:39 <+AnonymooseWork> oh
19:39 < JFDkthx> corn266: why not use bitlocker?
19:39 <+AnonymooseWork> hmm
19:39 <+AnonymooseWork> how will you be setting said VAR?
19:39 <+AnonymooseWork> using an SSRS Parameter?
19:39 < JollyRgrs> yes
19:39 < corn266> JFDkthx because we have a staging drive that needs to be accessible to both rhel and winders
19:39 < JollyRgrs> i guess
19:39 <+AnonymooseWork> or is this CDNBaseURL the base URL that you are querying against right?
19:39 < JollyRgrs> yes
19:40 <+AnonymooseWork> can you pastebin the code/redacted? and send it to me?
19:40 < JFDkthx> corn266: then im not sure.
19:40 < JollyRgrs> currently it is this
19:40 < JollyRgrs> fi.CDNBaseUrl0 = 'http://officecdn.microsoft.com/pr/b8f9b850-328d-4355-9145-c59439a0c4cf'
19:40 < JollyRgrs> but that URL can change depending on the channel
19:40 <+AnonymooseWork> which you select at report runtime
19:40 < JollyRgrs> well... honestly, not even :P i'm just trying to make this easier to read and change later on
19:40 < JollyRgrs> this is for a dashboard
19:40 <+AnonymooseWork> haha
19:41 <+AnonymooseWork> gotcha
19:41 < JollyRgrs> so it'll be pre-set for one or the other
19:41 < JollyRgrs> but good time to learn what i can do
19:41 < corn266> DAAPM is talking about using NSA-approved software which I would assume encompasses cryptsetup and bitlocker, but I can't find any info about veracrypt other than "can the NSA backdoor veracrypt? list number 10 will shock you!"
19:41 <+AnonymooseWork> then yeah? why not use a variable
19:41 <+AnonymooseWork> absolutely
19:41 <+AnonymooseWork> just declare them at the start of your TSQL
19:41 < JollyRgrs> but can i select which var, by setting a var?
19:41 <+AnonymooseWork> declare @Variable1 varchar(50)
19:41 < JollyRgrs> sure, i can declare in the TSQL
19:41 <+AnonymooseWork> set @Variable1 = 'blah'
19:41 < servchan> h8er cryptic1
19:41 < JollyRgrs> but then i want a parameter that I can change to decide which var to use
19:42 <+AnonymooseWork> ok
19:42 <@cryptic1> work
19:42 <@cryptic1> ing
19:42 <+AnonymooseWork> so in theory you'll need 3 variables and a a parameter ok?
19:42 < servchan> hardly
19:42 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: GET BACK TO WORK!
19:42 <@cryptic1> D:
19:42 <+AnonymooseWork> 'CDN1' 'CDN2' and 'CDNUsed'
19:42 < JollyRgrs> AnonymooseWork: correct
19:42 <+AnonymooseWork> at runtime you do something like
19:42 <@cryptic1> AnonymooseWork, is CDNUsed
19:42 <@cryptic1> big time
19:42 <+AnonymooseWork> 'case when @Param = 1 then set @CDNUsed=@CDN1 else @CDNUsed=@CDN2 end'
19:42 < JollyRgrs> cryptic1: your mom is so big, she's th reason CDNs were created
19:43 < JollyRgrs> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
19:43 < JFDkthx> corn266: https://superuser.com/questions/376533/how-to-access-a-bitlocker-encrypted-drive-in-linux
19:43 <+layer-eight> * JFDkthx →  windows - How to access a BitLocker-encrypted drive in Linux? - Super User
19:43 <@cryptic1> damn you
19:43 <+AnonymooseWork> she's so big she has her own CDN
19:43 <@cryptic1> GAWD DAYMN
19:43 <+AnonymooseWork> savage
19:43 <@cryptic1> absolutely
19:43 <@Code_Man65> She also has her own country code
19:43 <@cryptic1> :O
19:44 <@cryptic1> i
19:44 <@cryptic1> hate
19:44 <@cryptic1> all
19:44 <@cryptic1> of
19:44 <@cryptic1> you
19:44 < JollyRgrs> +69 555-222-1234
19:44 <@cryptic1> <3
19:44 <+AnonymooseWork> hahaha
19:44  * Code_Man65 cackles
19:44 <+AnonymooseWork> lol JollyRgrs
19:44 < corn266> mod spam
19:44 <@cryptic1> son of a bitch JollyRgrs
19:45  * JollyRgrs is on a roll
19:45 < JollyRgrs> or is it on your mom? i can't tell the difference
19:45 <@Code_Man65> JollyRgrs:  You'd know if it was his mom if the USGS was reporting an earthquake
19:45 < ebol4> a hawaiian sweet roll beacuse she is nice
19:46 < ebol4> got em
19:46 < JollyRgrs> ebol4: quincy's big fat yeast roll
19:46 < JollyRgrs> i miss quincy's
19:46 <+AnonymooseWork> lol Code_Man65
19:46  * AnonymooseWork chuckles
19:47 < corn266> Thanks JFDkthx I'll give that a consideration if our DSS rep tells me off tomorrow
19:47 <+AnonymooseWork> Code_Man65 - damn siesmology jokes
19:48 < DomLS3> For O365 admins with on prem AD, do you use any 3rd party tools for passwords resets for end users
19:48 <@Code_Man65> DomLS3:  Yes we do because we aren't allowed to sync passwords at the moment
19:49 < JollyRgrs> DomLS3: Thycotic right now
19:49 <+AnonymooseWork> Naw i'm using password writeback in O365
19:50 < DomLS3> I'm looking t Nervepoint but want to explore other options. I need something that can reset passwords instantaneously for the end user and not just reset local AD and then wait for it to sync to O365
19:50 < DomLS3> AnonymooseWork: That's expensive
19:51 <@Code_Man65> If/when we get to start down that path we already are licensed for Azure AD Premium
19:52 < scwizard> ok...
19:52 < scwizard> apparently at Miss America, contestants will no longer be judged on their "outward physical appearances" wat
19:52 < DomLS3> scwizard: the fatties are complaining that they can't win
19:52 < scwizard> i know no politics...
19:53 < JollyRgrs> scwizard: they'll be judged by how pretty their snowflakes have potential to be
19:53 < JollyRgrs> did trump lose control of the pageant?
19:53 < JollyRgrs> he wouldn't stand for this!
19:53 < scwizard> (he had control of miss universe, who's their rival)
19:53 < scwizard> anyways i figured out what to do today
19:53 < scwizard> CI/CD of the vagrant box in google cloud
19:54 < scwizard> i almost forgot about that project, I stalled it because it was so low priority
19:54 < servchan> bada book bada boom
19:55 < Gigadoc2> GodOfsea: That is very vague. Did you check if your server is properly reachable from the internet? You could use https://mxtoolbox.com/ if you don't have access to a box from a different provider.
19:55 <+layer-eight> * Gigadoc2 →  MX Lookup Tool - Check your DNS MX Records online - MxToolbox
19:55 < Gigadoc2> It can also do smtp connection tests, not only looking up MX records.
19:56 < GodOfsea> Gigadoc2 pm ?
19:56 < JollyRgrs> AnonymooseWork: i think i'm just going to use a CASE... there are actually 4 CDN's, though i'll only ever see 2 (hopefully). so i'll just make the param 0-3 and do a case based off of that
19:59 < scwizard> oh i also need to submit my timesheet
19:59 < scwizard> that's important
20:00 < admiralspark> on a tuesday?
20:00 < abeNd-org> scwizard: thats ok, your manager thinks you do nothing all day anyways, no matter what you put on your timesheet "you are lying"
20:00 < scwizard> i've never had a manager tell me i'm lying about my timesheet
20:00 < scwizard> i don't bill for nearly as many hours as I could tbh
20:00 < scwizard> but whatever i don't have a family, don't really need money
20:01 < admiralspark> lol
20:01 < admiralspark> scwizard, if only the world worked like that ;)
20:01 < scwizard> ok i don't need very much money
20:01 < felda> Neat Facts:  JollyRgrs programmed his Tesla to say "I love you" every time the door opens
20:01 < scwizard> relative to how much I could in theory make
20:02 < admiralspark> scwizard: if it's billable hours, it's about setting expectations
20:02 < corn266> JFDkthx: https://www.nsa.gov/resources/everyone/csfc/components-list/#sw-fde      So are there just not any nsa approved software full drive encryption programs or am I looking in the wrong place
20:02 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  Components List
20:02 < scwizard> the feds don't really like full drive encryption
20:02 < admiralspark> Plus, like....I make more than I need as I live below my means (unlike most). I put the extra in savings/investments/etc so that I can potentially retire early. FIRE baby!
20:02 <+AnonymooseWork> JollyRgrs has a tesla?
20:02 < JFDkthx> https://www.nsa.gov/resources/everyone/csfc/components-list/assets/files/selections/sw-fde.pdf
20:03 <+layer-eight> * JFDkthx →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 322,211 bytes
20:03 < corn266> except when their disk sanitization procedure includes a one pass full disk encryption and destruction of the master key scwizard
20:03 < admiralspark> corn266: are you specifically looking for FDE sponsired by the NSA?
20:03 < JFDkthx> so
20:03 < admiralspark> Normally you consult your branch's lists
20:03 < scwizard> yeah i'm sure they have software for it but
20:03 < admiralspark> like, FERC has tools out there for utilities to reference
20:03 < scwizard> they're not gonna recommend it
20:03 < JFDkthx> Mercury SystemsASURRE-Stor Solid State Self-Encrypting Drive corn266 ?
20:04 < corn266> as an internal drive?
20:04 < JFDkthx> yeah
20:04 < scwizard> but yeah the feds especially don't like community maintained full disk encryption software a-la truecrypt
20:05 < admiralspark> vericrypt* ;)
20:05 < admiralspark> veracrypt?
20:05 < admiralspark> whatever
20:05 < corn266> veracrypt
20:05 < scwizard> yeah or its maintained fork VeraCrypt
20:06 < scwizard> so you definitely shouldn't use those softwares, they're very bad and the NSA can't recommend them
20:06 < corn266> scwizard that's fucked up since they (the gubbermint) have some weird FOSS obligation
20:06 < scwizard> full of bugs and uhh probably malware
20:06 < corn266> yea mean malware
20:06 < JFDkthx> its different tho
20:06 < JFDkthx> because that shit is for when we make it
20:06 < JFDkthx> aint it
20:07 < corn266> what shit? the FOSS bs?
20:07 < JFDkthx> yeah
20:07 < JFDkthx> we support foss by releasing products
20:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> but do you floss
20:08 < admiralspark> Make your teech LIBRE™ today kids!
20:08 < admiralspark> teeth
20:08 < admiralspark> holy shit spelling isn't my thing today
20:09 < corn266> Bet the brits have been on that LIBRE(TM) teeth thing this whole time
20:10 < abakedapplepie> man i kinda forgot about the whole truecrypt debacle
20:10 < scwizard> i feel like there's encryption and then there's encryption
20:10 < abakedapplepie> did we ever figure out *what* was wrong about it
20:10 < scwizard> like there's SSH and then there's https
20:10 < abakedapplepie> all i remember is them disbanding halfway thru the audit
20:10 < abakedapplepie> speculation was that something big and bad was found after all
20:11 < Heresiarch> scwizard: ...you mean that both use encryption?
20:11 < corn266> I think there was a flaw when resizing encrypted partitions it left parts completely unencrypted or something
20:11 < ExoUNX> hmm, is there a way to convert a xen vhd to a virtio or sata vhd?
20:11 < scwizard> it's always kinda funny when it's like "according to the FBI Paul Manafort's encrypted text messages said 'hey wanna lie about some things in court for me thx'"
20:11 < scwizard> i'm like "yeah great encryption there, A+"
20:11 < corn266> he was using the A=M, B=N, etc. encryption technique
20:12 < scwizard> lol
20:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> im late but veracryt i44sdope
20:12 < asimon> He was probably using the super advanced identity cipher
20:12 < scwizard> Fbhaqf yvxr cerggl fuvggl rapelcgvba gb zr
20:12 < asimon> impossible to crack
20:13 < corn266> "rape" caught you in the act scwizard
20:13  * scwizard facepalms
20:13 < scwizard> TIL encr + rot13 = rape
20:14 < scwizard> that's awkward
20:14 < abakedapplepie> lol
20:14 < abakedapplepie> really?
20:14 < scwizard> ye
20:14 < corn266> leaked copy of Paul Manafort's encrypted text 'xht em rof truoc ni sgniht emos tuoba eil annaw yeh'
20:14 < Hunterkll> scwizard, there's transit layer encryption and at rest encryption
20:14 < Hunterkll> scwizard, manafort got boned on the at rest bit
20:15 < corn266> you symmetric vs asymmetric
20:15 < Hunterkll> they got his devices
20:15 < Hunterkll> and/or other's devices too
20:15 < Hunterkll> they couldn't have intercepted at the time, most likely, but they damn well could intercept after the fact
20:15 < ExoUNX> scwizard, data -> base64 -> rot13 is overkill
20:15 < Hunterkll> er, read it off the device
20:16 < ExoUNX> but it's super secure
20:16 < scwizard> yeah you got multiple layers of encryption
20:16 < scwizard> oh man reminds me of some php code at my old job :(
20:16 < Hunterkll> I just use my clipper chip enabled devices
20:16 < Hunterkll> works fine
20:16 < scwizard> and how it "encrypted" the password which was then put into the cookie
20:16 < asimon> Or maybe he could have used this cryption scheme: https://protonmail.com/blog/april-2018/
20:16 <+layer-eight> * asimon →  Introducing Delete-Everything Verifiably Null Universally Lossy Logarithm Encryption - ProtonMail Blog
20:17 < ExoUNX> scwizard, $secure_data = str_rot13(base64_encode($data));
20:17 < Hunterkll> lol
20:17 < scwizard> ExoUNX: and best of all it comes with a convenient "decrypt" function, just like said php code I mentioned!
20:18 < ExoUNX> scwizard, so convenient too, no need for the pesky keys, IVs, nonces, etc
20:18 < vader-> any of you guys good with salary negotiations?
20:18 < scwizard> no
20:18 < scwizard> actually maybe
20:18 < asimon> no
20:19 <@Code_Man65> I'm terrible at it
20:19 < Heresiarch> vader-: ish. Why?
20:19 < scwizard> i negotiated high once and it was because I was like "fuck no am I working for that guy again"
20:19 < scwizard> so I guess negotiate like you really don't fucking want the job
20:19 < ExoUNX> I got a 25 cent raise once, a few years ago. I'm pretty rich
20:19 < vader-> been interviewing for a job and they are going to give me an offer
20:19 < vader-> but not sure where they are going to come in at
20:19 < Heresiarch> vader-: do you know what you're after in terms of pay?
20:20  * Casteil just sent an email to accounting for a sneak peak of a bug fix that's been plaguing them for months.. signed email with this: http://geekologie.com/2015/07/13/bryan-cranston-mic-drop.jpg
20:20 < ExoUNX> vader-, better they give you the offer first anyways
20:20 < scwizard> oh man almost 6k in may
20:20 < ExoUNX> vader-, as long as your didn't put previous salary down or expected pay
20:21 < scwizard> too bad i'm only gonna have one or two months like that this year
20:22 < corn266> vader-: just remember, your pay check is the least costly part of your employment to a company
20:23 < scwizard> i wish it was like that for me :(
20:23 < scwizard> i want health insurance
20:23 < Hatter> wtf kate spade killed herself
20:23 < scwizard> ya
20:23 < khelpw> When they ask for previous salary I always just double whatever I made
20:23 < khelpw> wtf are they gonna do, fact check it
20:23 < Hatter> I've bought a lot of kate spade stuff over the years
20:23 < Hatter> as gifts for ladies of course
20:23 < scwizard> she's dead
20:23 < scwizard> fashion is rough idk
20:24 < Hatter> sister of david spade right
20:24 < MillerBoss> That runway
20:24 < scwizard> lets be honest
20:24 < Hatter> go on
20:24 < MillerBoss> Honesty is the best policy
20:25 < MillerBoss> BTC at $2,019 WOWOW
20:25 < scwizard> living in NYC as a 55 woman that's neck deep or worse in the fashion world
20:25 < MillerBoss> CRASHHHH
20:25 < ebol4> wait really MillerBoss ?
20:25 < ebol4> jesus
20:25 < scwizard> it's not a very happy life
20:26 < corn266> oh man you got me MillerBoss
20:26 < MillerBoss> #FAKENEWS
20:26 < ebol4> you have deceived me once again
20:26 < MillerBoss> Making sure you are all awake :)
20:26 < MillerBoss> Once again? I am sorry ebol4.
20:26 < ebol4> my blood is flowin now
20:26 < Nightcinder> MillerBoss: wot
20:26 < MillerBoss> Good, I am glad you are all awake now
20:26 < scwizard> ebol4: guessing you're awake now? happy monday
20:26 < corn266> BTC $7629.95 ;; ETH 610.55 ;; LTC 121.88 DOGE 0.00366331
20:26 < AnimalFarmPig> MillerBoss: wait, srs?
20:26 < scwizard> no
20:26 < corn266> AnimalFarmPig see above
20:26 < AnimalFarmPig> dammit
20:27 < scwizard> bamboozled
20:27 < DomLS3> .value btc
20:27 < DomLS3> Current BTC (Bitcoin) value: 7633.05 (USD)
20:27 < MillerBoss> That'll teach ya
20:27 < DomLS3> MillerBoss: tf you talking about
20:27 < DomLS3> bad trolls are bad
20:27 < MillerBoss> Loves you fam
20:27 < AnimalFarmPig> one day, I hope it comes true
20:28 < MillerBoss> These boots are made for walking
20:28 < MillerBoss> ・゜゜・。。・ ​ ゜゜\_​O< FLAP​ FLAP!
20:28 < admiralspark> .bang
20:29 < DomLS3> doesn't work in here lol
20:29 < admiralspark> damn
20:29 <+TuxedoJack> You know, I think I'm going to force-uninstall the Photos app on every laptop at one of my clients
20:29 <+TuxedoJack> I don't need them to index patient pictures at an OB/GYN
20:29 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
20:29 < corn266> TuxedoJack lmao
20:29 <+TuxedoJack> Unexpected blue waffle
20:29 <+AnonymooseWork> why are they taking patient photos
20:29 < admiralspark> TuxedoJack: what will you use instead?
20:29 < JFDkthx> `bang
20:29 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: For scientific research purposes they do
20:29 <+AnonymooseWork> isn't that a hipaa violation
20:30 <+TuxedoJack> Nope, the pictures go into their EHR
20:30 < corn266> Can't you set what gets indexed?
20:30 <+TuxedoJack> Nope, per-user
20:30 < scwizard> geez kate spade had a 13 year old boy
20:30 <+TuxedoJack> Problem is the fucking software picks it up, drops it into the library when it imports from the camera
20:30 <+TuxedoJack> And the live tile in the start menu picks THAT up
20:31 <+TuxedoJack> So we either set a start menu GPO for them to remove live tiles, or disable the app entirely
20:31 < tapoxi> scwizard: i feel so sorry for that kid, he has to have david as an uncle
20:31 < scwizard> geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
20:31 < MillerBoss> JFDkthx: WTF?! Who are you, Kim Jong Un firing missiles? You missed. You can try again in 7 seconds.
20:32 < MillerBoss> Remember thought one year ago BTC was around $2000
20:33 < MillerBoss> Its still doing well at this point. Some people believe it got near $20,000 because of the hype and all leading up to futures trading.
20:33 < tapoxi> bitcoin is a waste of time and fake money
20:33 < MillerBoss> s/thought/though
20:33 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss] Remember though one year ago BTC was around $2000
20:34 < MillerBoss> tapoxi: says boy bitty debit card that gives me real money
20:34 < MillerBoss> fucking auto c o r r e c t
20:34 < MillerBoss> s/boy bitty/BitPay
20:34 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss] tapoxi: says BitPay debit card that gives me real money
20:34 < MillerBoss> and my
20:34 < MillerBoss> :P
20:34 < DomLS3> s/$/test\
20:34 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/MillerBoss] Its still doing well at this point. Some people believe it got near test\20,000 because of the hype and all leading up to futures trading.
20:34 < tapoxi> how long do transactions take at this point
20:35 < MillerBoss> Normal
20:35 < DomLS3> wat
20:35 < MillerBoss> Within a few blocks
20:35 < tapoxi> my issue with bitcoin is the pretty obvious market manipulation
20:35 < tapoxi> and the fact that a 51% attack is like, $130k
20:36 < MillerBoss> Just breathe. You only live ones tapoxi :)
20:36 < MillerBoss> Just little creatures on this Earth in the Milky Way
20:36 < tapoxi> this is why im mining dogecoin
20:36 < tapoxi> itll be the currency of tomorrow
20:36 < corn266> tapoxi I think you might be off by a few 0's  $130,348,762,093 USD
20:36 < MillerBoss> I mine with NiceHash.
20:37 < JFDkthx> still?
20:37 < MillerBoss> Yeah
20:37 < JFDkthx> are you maing profit at all
20:37 < JFDkthx> making*
20:37 < MillerBoss> Yes
20:37 < JFDkthx> asic minig?
20:37 < JFDkthx> fucking dropped keys
20:37 < MillerBoss> I was even when it was $2000
20:37 < JFDkthx> piece of shit sun keyboard.
20:38 < MillerBoss> CPU, JFDkthx
20:38 < tapoxi> goddamn why does it take 5 minutes to pull a container from google to google
20:38 < tapoxi> its only 500mb
20:38 < JFDkthx> MillerBoss: i was making around 10-12 dolalrs a day, then it dropped to about 4
20:39 < MillerBoss> Yeah when it was around $20000 I was making near double of what I am now but still profit. :D
20:40 < MillerBoss> NiceHash on CPU is using CryptoNight7 now
20:40 < MillerBoss> Usually XMR
20:40 < JFDkthx> my favourite thing to do right now is to bounce my leg in a way that my shoe squeaks against my desk.
20:40 < JFDkthx> so my coworkers can be as annoyed as i am
20:40 < MillerBoss> Take a video and share so we can enjoy that too
20:40 < JFDkthx> cant do that
20:42 < scwizard> tapoxi: where in google to where in google?
20:42 < scwizard> i'm guessing someone to k8s
20:42 < scwizard> *somewhere to k8s
20:43 < scwizard> google cloud still has "regions" and "zones" are you crossing one or both?
20:43 < StrongBad> yo---what "cloud" services are y'all using for server backup? We were using crashplan enterprise here but they recently killed server OS support so now I need more options. I've got about 5TB I need to backup.
20:43 < F34RInc> felda, do you know what a time zone is
20:44 < MillerBoss> StrongBad: I am using CrashPlan Pro. They kill that too?
20:44 < MillerBoss> Also check out Cloudberry backup. I use bare metal backup option to S3 but they can do to all "clouds"
20:44 < StrongBad> not sure---supposedly business might still support it? But I figure I need to find a new service.
20:45 < MillerBoss> I use CrashPlan Pro for versioning fast/recovery and CloudBerry for the whole VM
20:46 < MillerBoss> Cloudberry has no subscription fee.
20:46 < StrongBad> I had 5TB on crashplan for $100/yr
20:46 < StrongBad> can't beat it
20:46 < scwizard> so my coworker finally back from 6 week paternity leave
20:47 < MillerBoss> Google Drive G Suite? If you want to chance that SLA
20:47 < scwizard> he said it went by really fast, he was thinking "man by the end of those 6 weeks i'm gonna be pro right" but then he realized "nope"
20:47 < MillerBoss> Unlimited
20:47 < scwizard> 6 weeks later it's still hard
20:47 < StrongBad> scwizard: better to stretch it out for the year. 3 day workweeks own
20:47 < StrongBad> plus employer doesn't have to exist without you for 6wks
20:48 < syere> you can do that?
20:48 < alazare619> so docker on windows anyone using it?
20:48 < StrongBad> yeah you have 1yr to use it syere
20:48 < syere> did not know that!
20:48 < rootsudo> planning an intranet
20:48 < rootsudo> it sucks
20:48 < scwizard> alazare619: i have docker in a vagrant box to avoid having it on windows tbh
20:48 < scwizard> docker on windows works in the same way anyway so yeah
20:49 < scwizard> i just installs it on a linux hyper V VM
20:49 < tapoxi> https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-eks-now-generally-available/ awwww shiiiiiit
20:49 <+layer-eight> * tapoxi →  Amazon EKS – Now Generally Available | AWS News Blog
20:49 < tapoxi> scwizard: container registry in one project to another, both in the same region. its stupid
20:49 < scwizard> that's really dumb :(
20:50 < MillerBoss> StrongBad: Did you get some notice about CrashPlan and Windows Servers recently?
20:51 < Hunterkll> fuck
20:51 < Hunterkll> my Ektar is delayed
20:51 < Hunterkll> overnight from B&H it isi i guess
20:51 < Hunterkll> fuckin amazon
20:51 < StrongBad> MillerBoss: iirc crashplan 5.3.0 dropped support for server OSes https://support.code42.com/Terms_and_conditions/Platform_support_policy/Platform_end_of_support_for_Code42_CrashPlan_apps_on_Windows_Server
20:51 <+layer-eight> * StrongBad →  Platform end of support for Code42 CrashPlan apps on Windows Server - Code42 Support
20:51 < StrongBad> my org is updating end of year
20:51 < tapoxi> Hunterkll: i know how you feel my cowsay is delayed
20:53 < MillerBoss> You mentioned CrashPlan Enterprise above StrongBad. I am using CrashPlan Pro.
20:53 < MillerBoss> And 6.7.2.5609 on Windows Server
20:53 < SynMonger> so... they don't do servers and they don't do home...
20:53 < StrongBad> MillerBoss: yeah and it doesn't seem to differentiate with the pro/business/enterprise
20:53 < StrongBad> just version 5.4 supposedly drops server OS
20:54 < StrongBad> can't blame them for home users. they have a lot of data.
20:54 < MillerBoss> And my account is at https://web-lbm-msp.crashplanpro.com/console/#/account
20:54 < silentfury-s4pro> didnt they say they were getting rid of CrashPlan entirely?
20:54 < Hunterkll> tapoxi, cowsay?
20:54 < StrongBad> moo
20:54 < tapoxi> hoehoehohoeh
20:54 < tapoxi> StrongBad: gets it
20:55 < MillerBoss> I have not taken time to get to learn their new setup. CrashPlan to parent name Code42 domain login and all of that like I should.
20:55 < MillerBoss> silentfury-s4pro:  Just "free" home use
20:56 < MillerBoss> StrongBad: If you are curious I am using 1 x Unlimited Per PC 1MO PRO Subscription $9.99 a month.
20:56 < StrongBad> I don't have those options MillerBoss
20:56 < alazare619> scwizard:  i was thinking about just installing alpine linux in a VM and installing docker on it
20:56 < StrongBad> has to be mostly legit
20:56 < MillerBoss> What do you mean legit?
20:56 < MillerBoss> What not legit?
20:56 < MillerBoss> whats*
20:56 < abakedapplepie> i miss cowsay
20:56 < StrongBad> it's for my employer so I can't use 'home' or whatever
20:57 < abakedapplepie> | cowsay
20:57 < abakedapplepie> all the things
20:57 < MillerBoss> This is not home version
20:57 < MillerBoss> :)
20:57 < StrongBad> has to be enterprise is all I'm saying
20:57 < MillerBoss> Its "Pro" aka Small Business per their website
20:57 < MillerBoss> OK
20:58 < StrongBad> which we aren't
20:58 < MillerBoss> So pro is blue. I take it then Enterprise is the black version right?
21:00 < MillerBoss> Looks like they really changed up their model https://www.code42.com/pricing/
21:00 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Pricing | Find the Right Plan and Get a Price Quote | Code42
21:01 < silentfury-s4pro> in any case, code42's support is horrible.
21:01 < MillerBoss> CrashPlan for Small Business 1-199 Employees Code42 Enterprise 200+ Employees
21:01 < MillerBoss> Yeah that is different
21:02 < MillerBoss> Yes silentfury-s4pro I called them some years back and they were very unprofessional on the phone
21:02 < silentfury-s4pro> we had a production issue and we just happened to call on a polish holiday
21:04 < StrongBad> MillerBoss: backblaze b2 seems to be popular. $5/tb/mo
21:04 < MillerBoss> Yeah
21:04 < MillerBoss> Cloudberry backs up to them as far as I remember
21:05 < MillerBoss> But is that "enterprise"?
21:05 < StrongBad> seems to just be block storage
21:14 < vinrock> xtensive
21:15 < vinrock> your name sounds like a condom brand
21:16 <+AnonymooseWork> lol
21:19 < Spr1ng> o/
21:27 < servchan> poop
21:28 < Spr1ng> err kay
21:28 < servchan> jah mahn
21:28 < servchan> what goes it brother
21:30 < ebol4> fucking dell. why does the naviseccli binary on linux use \r\n for line breaks
21:30 < ebol4> nice
21:30 < servchan> ate a large turkey sammich from whichwhich feeling full
21:30 < servchan> `seen cryptic1
21:30 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for servchan
21:30 < servchan> `seen cryptic1 cryptic1
21:30 <+layer-eight> Seen →  cryptic1 Saying son of a bitch JollyRgrs via Log on #reddit-sysadmin 2 hours ago
21:31 < servchan> that sob
21:31 < servchan> `help
21:31 <+layer-eight> servchan I have messaged you my instructions. Be gentle.
21:32 < servchan> `lucky
21:32  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at servchan, and spins (6 slots remaining)
21:32 <+layer-eight> *click* - Looks like you get to live another day servchan
21:32 < servchan> `popularity
21:32 <+layer-eight> There is no popularity data for servchan
21:32 < servchan> broken
21:33 < servchan> `apocalypse
21:33 <+layer-eight> Apocalypse Clock is currently set to 11:58 PM
21:33 <@cryptic1> working
21:33 < servchan> still?
21:33 < servchan> doing what
21:33 < ebol4> 11:58pm tonight
21:33 < servchan> who works these days in IT
21:33 < ebol4> last 8 hours alive boys
21:33 < servchan> set it and forget it
21:34 < scwizard> wow gitlab is snappy today
21:34 < scwizard> they must have really dumped a lot into infra
21:34 < scwizard> wait spoke too soon
21:34 < scwizard> def better than yesterday obv
21:35 < admiralspark> scwizard: maybe the monday panic moves are complete?
21:36 < scwizard> they've also scaled up their infra I'd imagine
21:42 < corn266> "Hey I'm trying to find our security PoC" "Oh he quit 5 months ago"
21:43 < Hunterkll> i read that as "security person of color" and thought "ya'll fired the black guy?"
21:43 < corn266> we didn't have enough white people
21:44 < Hunterkll> this
21:44 < Hunterkll> changes
21:44 < Hunterkll> everything
21:44 < Hunterkll> LIQUID EMULSION
21:45 < Hunterkll> negatives on any surface
21:45 < Hunterkll> i could turn a brick into a piece of .... photographic film brick
21:45 < Hunterkll> Works on Metal, Plastic, Glass, Fabric
21:45 < scwizard> article?
21:47 < Hunterkll> scwizard, article? it's a product listing on B&H
21:47 < Hunterkll> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/849876-REG/Rollei_AGFA_66152_Maco_Black_Magic_Liquid.html
21:47 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Rollei Black Magic Variable Contrast Liquid Emulsion, 66152 B&H
21:49 < scwizard> omg AWS responded in USTZ
21:49 < Hunterkll> lol
21:53 < scwizard> apparently i've been double escalated
21:54 < corn266> L1: "This is an L2 problem" // L2: "This is an L3 problem" // L3: "This is an L1 problem"
21:55 < scwizard> haha fortunately i'm not getting that runaround right now
21:55 < insecurity> too many levels
21:56 < scwizard> corn266: i'm gona put that on the quotes thingy
21:57 < corn266> awww yiss
22:03 < abeNd-org> corn266: your company allows de-escalation of a ticket? must be nice
22:05 < corn266> Nah I work for a small software company so i get to tell the devs to fix it themselves
22:05 < corn266> Also I am a dev
22:09 < scwizard> abeNd-org: just because the L3s think it's an L1 problem doesn't mean they don't have to deal with that shit
22:11 < corn266> I heard once the CTO escalates it it's no longer anyone's problem
22:11 < abakedapplepie> hey uhhhh
22:11 < abakedapplepie> anyone know if i can get the software license key from an already installed MSSQL server instance
22:12 < abakedapplepie> our MSAP access changed to 2017 and i need the key for this 2016 install to reinstall it :|
22:21 < genr8__> https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/why-you-should-bet-on-azure-for-your-infrastructure-needs-today-and-in-the-future/
22:21 <+layer-eight> * genr8__ →  Why you should bet on Azure for your infrastructure needs, today and in the future | Blog | Microsoft Azure
22:22 < alazare619> so started a meal prepping list
22:22 < alazare619> got alot to fill out still going to probably toss it up on google drive
22:23 < Hatter> I want to be a meal prepper
22:23 < Hatter> but I need to find a lady first
22:25 < alazare619> dude i just started to make a simple list based on ingredients finding "cheap meals"
22:25 < FenJai> Has anyone here updated an esxi 5.5 server ? Im trying to do it myself but the only files I can see are ISO images and my server is already hosted on a live disk
22:25 < alazare619> kind of a store has xyz on sale i look at this list point move finger over boom heres some ideas for foods
22:25 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/d16Fb0xN/image.png
22:25 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 34,027 bytes
22:25 < alazare619> no where near complete yet
22:26 < alazare619> but i'm going off memory of meals ive made/eaten in the last week or two
22:26 < scwizard> genr8__: I'll bet on azure once they lower their prices, like a lot
22:27 < scwizard> microsoft has been doing good lately but azure is still freaking expensive
22:27 < genr8__> tru
22:27 < JollyRgrs> AnonymooseWork: totally... i was able to afford my tesla that felda pointed out by using the channel dues we've collected over the years
22:27 < scwizard> aws is already expensive as fuck, and the only reason I'm not using google cloud is for my sanity
22:28 < alazare619> i want a tesla but i'm afraid the roads i live on would shake the damn thing apart
22:28 < alazare619> country living is awesome and shitty at the same time
22:28 < felda> alazare619 I see you live in every state in the united states
22:28 < alazare619> fuck dirt/sand roads
22:28 < DomLS3> s/meal prepper/dick beater
22:28 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/Hatter] I want to be a dick beater
22:28 < JollyRgrs> sand roads are nicer than dirt roads
22:28 < felda> why does it feel like everyone says their roads are trash?
22:28 < JollyRgrs> smoother ride
22:28 < syere> i'd take one of the tesla 3's or whatever the cheaper one they made is. It was only like 30k wasn't it?
22:28 < alazare619> yea your dads dick DomLS3
22:29 < Hatter> !report Domls3 bot abuse and defamation of character
22:29 < DomLS3> alazare619: LS > Modular
22:29 < genr8__> our roads are trasher than your roads and my dad can beat up your dad
22:29 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  until they get washboarded
22:29 < JollyRgrs> syere: $35k was the target, iirc
22:29 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  then they get FAR FAR worse
22:29 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: well, don't let them get washboarded
22:29 < felda> alazare619 roads are so bad in my town I have to get a hybrid mountain/road bike to ride to work lol
22:29 < JollyRgrs> duh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh
22:29 < syere> 35k for a electric vehicle with what, 400miles on a charge? That's not bad at all
22:29 < DomLS3> syere: but it's electric
22:29 < alazare619> felda:  dude i've been thinking about that
22:29 < alazare619> i found an electric bike that does like 45mph
22:29 < syere> DomLS3: exactly
22:30 < felda> alazare619 noice
22:30 < felda> how much tho?
22:30 < felda> I'm gonna pick up a nice Schwinn 700c
22:30 < felda> only $250
22:30 < vinrock> man i cant wait to buy an electric dirtbike
22:30 < felda> comes with disc brakes and front shocks
22:30 < vinrock> and go riding everywhere im not suposed to
22:31 < JollyRgrs> vinrock: they now have a street legal dirt bike
22:31 < alazare619> felda:  its like 6k
22:31 < JollyRgrs> i forget who/what/where
22:31 < SynMonger> the highways where I live were redone about 6 years ago and are quite nice
22:31 < vinrock> there'a a few actually
22:31 < vinrock> even KTM has one now
22:31 < SynMonger> the road to my house is gravel and can die
22:31 < vinrock> performance seems to be on par with a 125cc 2stroke
22:31 < alazare619> i've been keeping an eye out for an enduro
22:31 < vinrock> yeah thats what id be waiting for
22:32 < vinrock> i went to the yamaha stealership over the weekend to check out the MT-10 and they fuckin sold it
22:32 < alazare619> theres a CR500AF for sale near me
22:32 < vinrock> whoa
22:32 < vinrock> new?
22:32 < alazare619> i'm not sure if its a true honda racing CR500AF tho
22:32 < vinrock> iirc they're all built by Service Honda
22:33 < alazare619> yea
22:33 < alazare619> but i'm wondering if someone didnt "homebrew" it
22:33 < vinrock> oh....ewwww
22:33 < alazare619> i'm not sure how to tell tho
22:33 < vinrock> should have a build plate and serial
22:33 < alazare619> price seems to low for a true CR500AF but its definetly a 2 stroke honda 500
22:33 < vinrock> i think the hot shit was shoehorning the 500 into the CRF250 frame
22:34 < Church-> Heya folks
22:34 < vinrock> sup money
22:34 < asimon> cya nerds
22:34 < Church-> Writing an assembler. Was bored.
22:34 < vinrock> assemble deez nuts
22:34 < alazare619> yea i'm debating going and taking a look i mean its only 2500 bucks if it happens to be a true CR500AF its worth far more then that
22:34 <+TuxedoJack> Goddammit, you lying twat, Yelp didn't fucking call and get routed outside the organization to an ex-employee's cell. Do NOT make me pull your fucking CDRs.'
22:34 < vinrock> whoa
22:35 < vinrock> good price if its the real deal
22:35 < vinrock> im gona take a huge loss on my quad
22:35 < Church-> TuxedoJack: Heh. 1st line?
22:35 < vinrock> rebuilt the fox floats and droped in an intake cam and only got like, 1hr on it since :|
22:35 < vinrock> oh and valve adjustment
22:42 <+TuxedoJack> Church-: still better than the unexpected blue waffle via start menu live tile this morning
22:42 <+TuxedoJack> Fucking Christ, that was not good
22:43 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: lmao
22:43 < DomLS3> on whose computer?
22:45 <+TuxedoJack> DomLS3: a nurse at an OB/GYN's. They use Windows Explorer to import pictures from their cameras, and the fucking things indexed the pictures into the library
22:45 <+TuxedoJack> WHich is then shown on live tiles
22:46 < DomLS3> oh you mean a real life blue waffle
22:46 <+TuxedoJack> Yes.
22:46 < DomLS3> hahahaha
22:46 < DomLS3> God bless Windows 10
22:46 < alazare619> i'm ded
22:47 <+TuxedoJack> Seriously, I don't know how the fuck they didn't bundle that woman off to RBJ / Dell Medical Center right then and there
22:47 < SynMonger> haha
22:47 <+TuxedoJack> But no, apparently taking pictures was more important
22:48 < technonerd> Memes come first
22:48 < SynMonger> no hipaa violations there, carry on
22:54 < DomLS3> TuxedoJack: Technically I think you're breaking hippa rules by talking about it on IRC
22:54 < scwizard> whoop whoop whoop the police are here
22:54 < scwizard> tuxedojack ur under arrest
22:54 < technonerd> Hands up don't shoot
22:55  * DomLS3 shoots anyway
22:55 < scwizard> this is america
22:55 < DomLS3> because that's what cops do these days
22:55 < DomLS3> "You put your hands in the air and moved them funny. I was afraid for my life, so I decided to shoot"
22:56 < SynMonger> like the motto on San Andreas police cars says, "OBEY AND SURVIVE"
22:56 < DomLS3> What I can't stand is cops who have raided the WRONG house and killed a homeowner who was tryign to defend himself because he thought he was being robbed
22:56 < scwizard> look on the bright side, the courts ruled in favor of someone who shot a cop during a no knock
22:57 < corn266> SynMonger: This is a subtle not to the founding father's "liberty or death"
22:57 < scwizard> so the solution is just more guns clearly
22:57 < syere> DomLS3: that becomes a "guns are a problem" talking point every time, not bad cops talk
22:57 < alazare619> sounds like the kid about an hr from me that got "swatted" by mistake
22:57 < corn266> s/subtle not/subtle nod
22:57 <+layer-eight> [SED corn266] SynMonger: This is a subtle nod to the founding father's "liberty or death"
22:57 < alazare619> https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/us/kansas-police-shooting-swatting-lawsuit/index.html
22:57 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  'Swatting' death: Family of man killed sues city of Wichita and police - CNN
22:57 < alazare619> some dude from nevada called the police to swat the wrong house
22:57 < alazare619> like wtf and dude died
22:58 < DomLS3> yep
22:58 < DomLS3> shit's fucked up
22:58 < DomLS3> and in some states you can't sue for it and could be charged with murder if you killed a cop who broke into your house if it was the wrong one
22:58 < DomLS3> thinking it was a robber
22:59 < syere> that's why you just keep firing
22:59 < alazare619> right
22:59 < DomLS3> keep firing?
22:59 < DomLS3> lol
22:59 < alazare619> real shit tho my bil killed a guy who was beating him up in his house
22:59 < DomLS3> and hope you take down 15 cops at once?
22:59 < syere> yep. your word against theirs at that point
22:59 < alazare619> he shot him and ended up in prison even tho the state has a stand your ground law
22:59 < alazare619> had to fight for almost a year to be released
23:00 < DomLS3> alazare619: yep. shit sickens me
23:00 < alazare619> and a shit ton of money later was something like 50k in lawyer fees when he was in his right
23:00 < Sousapro> alazare619: that's shit boils my blood
23:00 < Church-> Lovely.
23:00 < Church-> TuxedoJack: ^
23:00 < Sousapro> alazare619: "you're right but you're financially ruined. congratulations on your freedom"
23:00 < Church-> Gotta love blue waffle. >_>
23:00 < AnimalFarmPig> you're reminding me that I've been meaning to buy legal situation after shooting people insurance
23:01 < Sousapro> has anyone here used MDT to capture a WIM for like SHI or CDW before?
23:01 < AnimalFarmPig> for like $9/mo you get a card and subscription to legal service, and if you shoot someone you can call them and they handle everything
23:01 < alazare619> Sousapro: yea he ended up sueing the family of the guy for "restitution" along with the sate but thats been in limbo for awhile (years)
23:01 < SynMonger> I believe that's spelled "lawyer's retainer"
23:01 < Sousapro> apparently it's my day to pretend I'm a desktop tech again
23:01 < Sousapro> alazare619: of course it is
23:01 < Sousapro> alazare619: peons have to know their place
23:01 < SynMonger> Sousapro: that's every day here... we wear all the hats
23:02 < alazare619> Sousapro:  i do that from time to time lol
23:02 < alazare619> Sousapro:  dont use mdts capture sequence shits broke for one reason or another
23:02 < Sousapro> ugh
23:02 < Sousapro> of course it is
23:02 < Sousapro> how do you capture?
23:02 < Sousapro> clonezilla?
23:02 < Sousapro> win pe image with gimagex?
23:02 < alazare619> you can just use sysprep and gimagex
23:02 < Sousapro> yeah, do it old school
23:02 < alazare619> and import the wim into mdt then
23:03 < Sousapro> was hoping I could be lazy lmao
23:03 < alazare619> i use the gandalph pe disk it has gimagex baked in
23:03 < Sousapro> I guess I can be overpaid desktop guy for a day
23:03 < alazare619> http://windowsmatters.com/2018/05/08/gandalfs-windows-10pe-x64-redstone-3-build-16299-version-05-08-2018/
23:03 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Gandalf's Windows 10PE x64 Redstone 3 build 16299 version 05-08-2018 | Musings of an IT Pro
23:04 < Sousapro> I remember when I made a Win PE enviroment with a menu and gimagex from scratch back in 2009 for win7
23:04 < Sousapro> I thought I was amazing
23:04 < Sousapro> LMAO
23:04 < Sousapro> my world was so narrow in IT
23:04 < Sousapro> alazare619: thanks man :)
23:06 < scwizard> alazare619: I'm confuse. The docs say: "To prevent its use as a production operating system, Windows PE automatically stops running the shell and restarts after 72 hours of continuous use. This period is not configurable."
23:06 < scwizard> so why are people installing VLC or whatever on windows PE?
23:07 < alazare619> its meant for a utility disk
23:07 < alazare619> so say theres videos on a non bootable system
23:07 < scwizard> ic
23:07 < alazare619> also you can copy the pe enviroment onto the HDD
23:07 < alazare619> and make it dual boot
23:07 < alazare619> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lul-Y8vSr0I
23:07 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  YouTube → William Shatner "Sings" 'Rocket Man' (1978) - BEST QUALITY! → ⚘ 3,804,918 ↑ 23,393 ↓ 1,131 ✍ 3,467
23:08 <@ravioli> s/video/donger
23:08 <+layer-eight> [SED ravioli/alazare619] so say theres dongers on a non bootable system
23:10 < alazare619> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CthW1MgWYuE
23:10 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  YouTube → William Shatner - Bohemian Rhapsody → ⚘ 225,790 ↑ 1,716 ↓ 93 ✍ 356
23:12 < Sousapro> s/Rocket Man/Donger Man
23:13 < felda> Anyone used Malwarebytes Business line of software?
23:13 < alazare619> its not to bad felda
23:13 < felda> I'm thinking of switching from their weird goofy consumer line to their managed endpoint software
23:13 < alazare619> he demo'd it for a bit before settling on cisco amp
23:13 < alazare619> he/we
23:13 < felda> doesn't seem like it is much more expensive and has a real management interface
23:14 < genr8__> well its certainly better than MWB consumer
23:15 < genr8__> consumer is good for consumer but is their Business line good for enterprise ?
23:16 < jaelae> Grinds my gears when people mark something shipped on eBay
23:16 < jaelae> And don’t ship it
23:17 < corn266> Grinds my gears when TV shows allude to a romance between to characters
23:17 < corn266> and don't ship it
23:19 < joelazot> Hello.
23:19 < joelazot> meme teen is currently doing a science mock exam.
23:20 < alazare619> genr8__: from my experience their business line seems markketed like a MSP
23:21 < alazare619> corn266:  like misty and ash ketchum
23:23 < corn266> or brock and every nurse joy
23:26 < felda> alazare619 did you see the Business Endpoint having a lot more features than Home Premium?
23:26 < alazare619> i wouldnt say "features"
23:26 < alazare619> but more expanded upon
23:27 < felda> more fleshed out
23:27 < alazare619> ^
23:27 < felda> How was the manglement interface?
23:27 < alazare619> s/fleshed/flesh light
23:27 <+layer-eight> [SED alazare619/felda] more flesh light out
23:27 < alazare619> wasnt the best wasnt the worst
23:27 < corn266> how many admins does it take to change a flesh light
23:27 < alazare619> id put it not as good as sophos, but as bad as kasperskys
23:27 < felda> you like Sophos a lot?
23:27 < alazare619> i do
23:28 < felda> I think I tried their Endpoints at one time but price was a concern
23:28 < alazare619> my order is nod32 > sophos> cisco amp > most other stuff > kaspersky
23:28 < felda> I still have 1 PC I was never able to get their Endpoint off of LMAO
23:28 < SynMonger> have you tried gasoline and a match?
23:29 < felda> SynMonger only after I was with your mum
23:29 < SynMonger> oooo burn
23:29 < felda> that was quite rude I'm sure your mother is lovely
23:30 < joelazot> I'm getting anxious about this fuckin test rn fuckk
23:30 < felda> alazare619 what puts Sophos and Nod32 at the top of your list?
23:30 < alazare619> ease of use
23:30 < felda> I don't really do much with AV except make sure it's running
23:30 < alazare619> lakc of false positives
23:30 < felda> do any of those go fuckin ham on HDDs?
23:31 < felda> I've had issues in the way back past of a few AV software just tearing up HDDs trying to scan them
23:31 < Sousapro> Sophos is pretty great
23:31 < felda> or locking critical files like QB because they are dumb
23:31 < Sousapro> I'm stuck with SEP14 but at least it isn't SEP12
23:31 < Sousapro> SEP12 is pants on head at this point
23:31 < felda> Sousapro that's what we had before I dumped it for Malwarebytes Home Premium
23:31 < Sousapro> I wonder what SEP12 versus defender looks like at this point
23:32 < felda> got lifetime licenses way back when
23:32 < felda> but now Malwarebytes is telling me to stuff it when installing it on new PCs
23:32 < Sousapro> for MBAM?
23:32 < Sousapro> I'm not surprised
23:32 < alazare619> felda:  viper...kaspersky and a few others rekt hdd with IO
23:32 < Sousapro> forever is one business cycle to software vendors
23:32 < Sousapro> lol
23:32 < Sousapro> UNLIMITED USERS UNLIMITED COMPUTERS FOREVER*
23:33 < Sousapro> *Forever means 5 minutes from now
23:33 < felda> turns out those lifetime licenses only apply to one PC even if you just re-install Windows
23:33 < felda> found that out the hard way
23:33 < Sousapro> wow
23:33 < felda> yup
23:33 < Sousapro> now you have to start saving registry hives
23:33 < felda> ooof that sucks
23:33 < Sousapro> I'll just do SEP
23:34 < felda> yeah I'm really really really tempted to try out Sophos Endpoint
23:34 < Sousapro> Sophos is good
23:34 < joelazot> How is everyone?
23:34 < Sousapro> as far as enterprise AV goes anyway
23:34 < Sousapro> I use Sophos Cloud for my house
23:34 < Sousapro> has been pretty good
23:34 < corn266> joelazot: go take your damn test
23:34 < Sousapro> wow
23:34 < Sousapro> harsh.gif
23:35 < joelazot> corn266: i'm doing it right now dickhead
23:35 < corn266> then quit being anxious about it
23:35 < joelazot> not that easy
23:35 < genr8__> Sophos, Kaspersky or Symantec
23:36 < genr8__> what else is there
23:36 < joelazot> Bitdefender?
23:36 < joelazot> They do enterprise av stuff IIRC
23:36 < genr8__> endpoint security not AV oh
23:37 < corn266> pfft how hard is 3CO2 + 6H2O --> C6H12O6 + 6O2
23:37 < joelazot> I'm shit at science
23:38 < joelazot> Here's a question i gotta do as an example
23:38 < joelazot>  Using th same chemical substances, Calcium Carbonate and hydrochloric acid discuss a different way to make the balloon infltae faster. In your answer you should refer to rates of reaction and particle collisions.
23:38 < joelazot> (im 15)
23:38 < felda> how long do you guys think a Dell PowerEdge R220 will last?  We bought it and got it running in 2015.  Think it will last until 2022?
23:38 < felda> It's about time to renew warranty / support contract
23:39 < genr8__> maybe
23:39 < joelazot> corn266: i'm retarded, y'know
23:39 < corn266> That's a question of concentrations and collisions refers to the how often diffuse particles meet, probably
23:39 < corn266> also heat, but I'm just some random person on the internet
23:39 < genr8__> i wish i knew
23:40 < joelazot> i thought heat yeah
23:40 < alazare619> bitdefender had a product out
23:40 < alazare619> its marketed at MSP/Enterprised havent got to test it yet
23:40 < alazare619> i used bitdefender for years at home
23:40 < joelazot> same here
23:42 < Stoob> felda: judging by the poweredge 2950 that's still in "production" here, probably
23:42 < joelazot> >2950
23:42 < joelazot> production
23:42 < joelazot> im sorry
23:43 < Stoob> I'm fighting it joelazot, we'll see if I can't get a replacement for it in in a month or two
23:46 < alazare619> debating getting an echo dot
23:46 < alazare619> i just dont know...the thought that alexa is always listening is concerning
23:46 < joelazot> corn266: CaCO3 + HCl is CO2 right
23:46 < alazare619> also i dont like that i have to say alexa turn on the cam corder when i wana make a vid in the bedroom again without a female knowing lol
23:47 < joelazot> hah
23:47 < corn266> wut
23:47 < Stoob> alazare619: dont do it
23:48 < Stoob> nsa spyin on u
23:49 < corn266> Probably CaCl2 + CO2 + H2O or something
23:49 < joelazot> ty
23:49 < corn266> Remember your acid + base combo will have a salt precipitate
23:50 < joelazot> yup
23:54 < alazare619> so going to put my meal list thing on google drive
23:54 < xe0n> morn
23:54 < alazare619> you pick 2 ingredeints and move your finger to where they meet and it gives you a meal idea
23:54 < alazare619> best for "store sales etc"
23:54 < alazare619> then has another table where they show all the ingredients so you can interlink them with other meals
23:54 < grumplestiltzkin> front page of amazon, one of teh banner ads is for an alexa speaker thing.   it has rainbow stripes and the phrase "alexa, tell me a pride fact"       ...   is the word 'pride' hwen used without any modifier, exclusively talking about gays now?
23:55 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cfUQuQyn/image.png
23:55 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 20,417 bytes
23:55 < alazare619> thats the interlink table
23:55 < Sousapro> stoob: jesus, 2950?
23:55 < corn266> wow grumplestiltzkin that's sounds like you're against gays
23:56 < Sousapro> Stoob: I can rummage around in the couch cushions for a used 3 year old supermicro server
23:57  * Sousapro gets a sticky note that says 2950 elimination fund and sticks it on a tip jar
23:57 < khelpw> grumplestiltzkin: it'd be funny if it spouted some white supremacist propaganda at that request
23:57 < khelpw> "Oh, you didn't mean _white_ pride. You should be more specific"
23:58 < grumplestiltzkin> Well.. I mean, it obviously means 'gay pride' but doesnt say that.     Just as - is, it should say .. like "pride is one of the 7 deadly sins" etc etc
23:59 < Stoob> Sousapro: lol right? It's ridiculous
23:59 < Stoob> "well it works"
23:59 < Stoob> FOR NOW, I GUESS
23:59 < grumplestiltzkin> also lions
23:59 < Sousapro> Stoob: just laugh when it fails
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