--- Log opened Fri Jun 08 00:00:49 2018
00:24 < abakedapplepie> has anyone ever started paying attention to your breathing and then forgotten to breath for a sec before
00:25 < abakedapplepie> like you basically take over conscious control of breathing and then do a bad job so your brain is like ok play times over
00:25 < abakedapplepie> it happens to me a lot when im trying to sleep and my mind is wandering
00:26 < abakedapplepie> am i crazy
00:26 < abakedapplepie> "A lot" meaning thats when it happens, but it doesnt happen that often
00:33 < bomb> all i wanna say is that they don't really care about sysadmins
00:35 <+NinjaStyle> abakedapplepie: yes
00:35 < cryptic1> bomb, get back to work
00:36 < bomb> cryptic1: i'm looking for one hehehe
00:36 < cryptic1> :P
00:37 < sideup66> Ahhh corporate IT
00:37 < sideup66> The land of "it's not MY job"
00:37 < bomb> heh
00:38 < bomb> knowing only English, i can only find jobs at startups in Europe
00:38 <+NinjaStyle> Wanna get away gets fucked in southwest early boarding
00:38 < bomb> and they all seem to use dockers on aws
00:39 <+NinjaStyle> I've been top of b no early boarding before
00:39 < bomb> so, no chocolate for me
00:39 <+NinjaStyle> Early boarding I have been a46 and a47
00:40 <+NinjaStyle> Like what the fuck $30 for 15 positions up
00:43 < m4221> Boo
00:44 <+NinjaStyle> Bies
00:44 <+TuxedoJack> Hmm. Synnex won't stop bothering my helldesk by cold-calling to speak to purchasing
00:44 <+TuxedoJack> Whatever should I do
00:44 <+NinjaStyle> Block their number
00:44 <+TuxedoJack> I was thinking a custom route for their number
00:44 < m4221> NinjaStyle: no, tell them to fuck off
00:45 < bomb> are developers paid more than sysadmins generally?
00:45 <+TuxedoJack> If the CID data reads as theirs, then redirect to the Sales Call Abyss or Extension 1 (Rickroll, then immediate disconnect once it's over)
00:45 <+NinjaStyle> Whynotboth.jpg
00:45 <+NinjaStyle> bomb: yes
00:45 <+TuxedoJack>  NinjaStyle: https://soundcloud.com/user-237714155/sales-call-abyss
00:45 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  Sales call Abyss by User 237714155 | Free Listening on SoundCloud
00:45 < bomb> :\
00:47 < bomb> i need to learn how to configure hundreds of software
00:48 < abakedapplepie> thats a bit vague
00:48 < bomb> server-side linux sysadmin i'm talking about
00:49 < abakedapplepie> ok
00:49 < abakedapplepie> so like chef etc
00:49 < abakedapplepie> do those things
00:50 < bomb> chef is the most establish one, right?
00:50 < abakedapplepie> OO idk
00:51 < varesa> I think puppet, chef and ansible seem to be the biggest ones
00:51 < abakedapplepie> definiitely
00:51 < abakedapplepie> i dont know whats the biggest
00:52 < abakedapplepie> oh and salt
00:52 < abakedapplepie> which is like the new hip kid on the scene
00:52 < abakedapplepie> but apparently people like
00:52 < varesa> I thought ansible was the new kid in town
00:52 < abakedapplepie> someone was talking about terriform too
00:53 < abakedapplepie> yah i guess my frame of reference is probably dated
00:53 < bomb> fabric is used by anyone?
00:53 < abakedapplepie> s/i/a
00:53 <+layer-eight> [SED abakedapplepie/bomb] fabrac is used by anyone?
00:53 < abakedapplepie> lol
00:53 < varesa> terraform doesn't really fit the same role though (I guess technically it can do the same stuff but you shouldn't use it that way)
00:54 < varesa> you'd use tf to provision infrastructure and hook up the instances to something like puppet/chef/salt/ansible for configuration
00:54 < abakedapplepie> theres also zookeeper? but i dont know anything about it
00:54 < abakedapplepie> other than reddit v2 uses it
00:56 < varesa> zookeeper the distributed KV store?
00:57 < varesa> that's even further away from the role :)
00:57 < varesa> it is closer to a database tbh
01:00 < abakedapplepie> i just knew it did config stuff
01:00 < abakedapplepie> lol
01:00 < abakedapplepie> thats it
01:00 < bomb> okay, learning Ansible should be enough for a junior role
01:01 < scwizard> if i was hiring for a junior role
01:01 < scwizard> i wouldn't give a damn about what they knew, I'd only really care about their ability to learn
01:02 < bomb> i'll starve to death then
01:04 <+NinjaStyle> I think terraforn is for spinning up infrastructure but not doing full cm
01:06 < varesa> NinjaStyle: yup
01:06 < varesa> even if there usually is someone who argues that you technically can do CM with it as well
01:06 <+NinjaStyle> Oh u said that
01:06 <+NinjaStyle> I should read guder
01:06 < varesa> reading is overrated
01:07 <+NinjaStyle> If 90s tv taght me anything it's that reading is for nerds
01:07 < DoctorDick> HA LITERACY
01:07  * varesa waits for an hour for an ansible playbook to complete, just for it to error out at the end
01:07 < abakedapplepie> i just love the name
01:07 < abakedapplepie> terraform
01:07 <+NinjaStyle> Why is Android letting me misspell things
01:08 < abakedapplepie> theres a lot of weight behind that word
01:08 <+NinjaStyle> It's the your mom of IT
01:08 < varesa> yeah the name is cool
01:10 <+NinjaStyle> abakedapplepie: how is msp land
01:13 < jaelae> i only have one issue with purestorage
01:14 < jaelae> when they swap hardware they go onsite since we have a remote data center with no employees
01:14 < jaelae> but leave the hardware on the floor to be returned
01:14 <+CheckYourSix> That's retarded...
01:14 < jaelae> so im like uh now i have to pay the data center techs for our colo to find a box that fits the hardware
01:14 < jaelae> and ship it back
01:15 < jaelae> $150 they charged to ship it :| just for labor
01:15 < abakedapplepie> terrible
01:15 < abakedapplepie> @NinjaStyle
01:16 <+NinjaStyle> :(
01:16 < jaelae> i worked for an MSP and it was ok
01:16 < jaelae> my worst job was before the MSP as a sole administrator / IT guy for an entire company
01:16 < abakedapplepie> my boss took me off working on client stuff to do internal stuff
01:16 < jaelae> that was the absolute worse
01:16 < abakedapplepie> and then he changes what he wants on a weekly basis
01:16 < abakedapplepie> so im just constantly in a state of limbo
01:16 < jaelae> improve your monitoring system?
01:16 < jaelae> shit like that
01:17 < abakedapplepie> i made a dashboard
01:17 < abakedapplepie> then he wanted confluence
01:17 < abakedapplepie> so we did that
01:17 < abakedapplepie> then he wanted the dashboard in confluence
01:17 < abakedapplepie> that was fun
01:17 < abakedapplepie> just a mishmash of macros and user macros and javascript but i got it working
01:18 < abakedapplepie> before that i stood up a crm server
01:18 < abakedapplepie> because he wants a bulk mailing system
01:18 < abakedapplepie> i tried to tell him that its not really supposed to be for that
01:18 < cryptic1> hey Hunterkll did you see this train wreck? https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8penss/helplooking_for_information_on_how_to_cleanup/
01:18 <+layer-eight> * cryptic1 →  [Help]Looking for information on how to cleanup windows 10 for enterprise : sysadmin
01:18 < abakedapplepie> then after it sat for 3 months, for some reason nothing would work anymore, and i wasnt the last person to work on it
01:18 < abakedapplepie> so now im standing another one up because fuck it
01:18 < StrongBad> anyone know of some good GPOs for w10 besides the obvious ones?
01:19 < MikeSpears> https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/gdpr-eu-commission-not-compliant/ LMFAO
01:19 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  European Commission behind new GDPR law not 'GDPR compliant'
01:19 < abakedapplepie> StrongBad: i think theres some good threads on the subreddit
01:19 < StrongBad> abakedapplepie: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/54n4pi/what_are_your_musthave_gpos_for_windows_10_in_the/
01:19 < scwizard> cryptic1: holy fucking cringe
01:19 < abakedapplepie> MikeSpears i saw that this morning, its so tasty
01:19 <+layer-eight> * StrongBad →  What are your must-have GPOs for Windows 10 in the domain? : sysadmin
01:19 < StrongBad> yeah I already looked at a few like this
01:19 < cryptic1> scwizard, yeah its bad its real bad
01:19 < MikeSpears> abakedapplepie: lol
01:20 < StrongBad> isn't that guy looking for something like O&O Shutup10
01:20 <+CheckYourSix> MikeSpears: That's great
01:20 < MikeSpears> ikr
01:20 < scwizard> cryptic1: like tbh if you want that level of control over your desktop but you don't wanna pay for windows enterprise, switch to linux???
01:21 < cryptic1> no do the think i want it to do for free
01:21 < scwizard> " we just spent 15k on upgrading our previous servers" oh my god 15k ???
01:21 < cryptic1> s/think/thing
01:21 <+layer-eight> [SED cryptic1] no do the thing i want it to do for free
01:21 < scwizard> that's so expensive! They have no budget left /s
01:21 < cryptic1> hah 15k for upgraded server
01:21 < cryptic1> that might buy 1 server with no os
01:22 < cryptic1> scwizard, its so cringe
01:23 < StrongBad> depends how big you are. Most of the servers I get are $2-3k
01:23 < scwizard> StrongBad: so at 3k a pop that's 5 upgrades servers lol
01:23 < scwizard> that's like 1/4th a rack?
01:23 < abakedapplepie> they dont need enterprise, just some GPOs
01:23 < abakedapplepie> enterprise has candy crush anyway
01:23 < cryptic1> abakedapplepie, gpos are hard to find
01:24 < rhqq> cryptic1: back to work
01:24 < cryptic1> D:
01:24 < rhqq> :*
01:24 < cryptic1> oops forgot my /s
01:24 < rhqq> mhm
01:26 < abakedapplepie> lol
01:27 <+CheckYourSix> "Enable Virtualization Based Security with Secure Boot and DMA Protection only Credential Guard enabled with UEFI lock (NOTE: This will install the Hyper-V Hypervisor, with will cause VMware Workstation to stop working)" - Does this basically mean the desktop runs Hyper-V and the OS the user is using is actually a VM on it? Or am I totally off the mark here?
01:29 < cryptic1> fucking idiots keep reporting crankys reply
01:29 < cryptic1> i just hit ignore reports for it
01:29 < rhqq> ?
01:30 < cryptic1> rhqq,  https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8penss/helplooking_for_information_on_how_to_cleanup/
01:30 <+layer-eight> * cryptic1 →  [Help]Looking for information on how to cleanup windows 10 for enterprise : sysadmin
01:30 < joelazot> Hello
01:30 < cryptic1> hi
01:31 < rhqq> cryptic1: is win 10 enterprise not reporting back to m$ ?
01:31 < joelazot> How are you cryptic1?
01:32 < cryptic1> rhqq, no people are reporting the comments as spam or offensive
01:32 < cryptic1> I have to keep reapproving them so they are not removed
01:33 < rhqq> well, technically incorrect, but still compliant to the rules of subreddit
01:33 < rhqq> so shouldnt be reported
01:33 < agent_white> That dude sure has a hardon for getting Candy Crush off the computers.
01:34 < rhqq> but my question stands regardless, i have no experience with windows above 7
01:34 < cryptic1> i don't know what you are asking
01:34 < cryptic1> reporting back to ms?
01:35 < rhqq> win10 is like reporting shitload of "statistics" back to ms
01:35 < cryptic1> meh
01:35 < rhqq> well, yeah, still
01:35 < cryptic1> who has time to worry about their bug reporting
01:35 < rhqq> not everyone is happy about that
01:35 < cryptic1> then use linux
01:36 < joelazot> kek
01:36 < rhqq> yeah /s
01:36 < cryptic1> and no1 has really proved how much is sent back
01:36 < cryptic1> all this OMG OMG OMG THEY ARE SPYING
01:36 < rhqq> which is weird
01:36 < rhqq> true
01:36 < cryptic1> where is the fucking proof
01:36 < cryptic1> its been years now
01:36 < rhqq> but still. anything is worse than nothing
01:36 < cryptic1> modern os's are going to send crash reports
01:36 < cryptic1> and stats
01:37 < rhqq> and there should be a way to disable that
01:37 < cryptic1> look at how much is monitored on your phones
01:37 < rhqq> or set up accordingly to users requirements
01:37 < cryptic1> but everyone is ok with that
01:37 < rhqq> im not :P
01:37 < scwizard> cryptic1: cause google are the good guys and microsoft is evil rawr
01:37 < cryptic1> pretty much
01:38 < rhqq> well, google is no more "dont be evil" thing
01:38 < cryptic1> i love linux but come on man
01:38 < technonerd> clicking a red x does what?
01:38 < cryptic1> like ms buying github lol
01:38 < technonerd> install windows 100
01:38 < technonerd> 10
01:38 < cryptic1> what a shitstorm about nothing
01:39 < technonerd> the ama seemed like they dont want to mess it up too much
01:40 < agent_white> I'm still not happy about it, but meh. Maybe the last 15+ years of them shitting over open-source really has ended.
01:40 < cryptic1> they don't they use it for windows os
01:40 < cryptic1> they have to embrace open source community or be left behind
01:41 < cryptic1> its all about the developers
01:41 < DLSteve> Not going to lie, it was kinda weird reading VSTS documentation in a Microsoft repo on GitHub today, they have been invested in the platform for a while.
01:43 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: You saw the sourceforge mail?
01:43 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: I think SF is trying to find someone else to buy them
01:44 < agent_white> It was weird seeing that Nat Friedman was going to be CEO... I used to listen to Hacker Medley awhile back, had no idea he was 'high up' in the exec chain.
01:44 < DLSteve> MS just needs to buy StackOverflow to complete their collection.
01:46 < cryptic1> SpeakerToMeat, i did not see it
01:46 <+SpeakerToMeat> hmm
01:46 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: "The team at SourceForge would like to extend a big congratulations to everyone at GitHub."
01:46 < cryptic1> SpeakerToMeat, I am not surprised that platform is probably pretty difficult to make money on
01:47 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: It almost went under some years ago, was bought by some other people IDK how they make money.
01:47 < cryptic1> SpeakerToMeat, yeah it was pure cancer before that new group bought it
01:48 < cryptic1> horrible deceiving download buttons that redirected to ads or other software
01:48 < cryptic1> packaging other content with the installers
01:48 < joelazot> What do Linux based environments use for authentication?
01:48 <+SpeakerToMeat> I think that was the last days of desperation, they were owned originally by some guys who made hardware for linux if I remember well... valinux?
01:48 < agent_white> Wonder if they'll maybe tack in 'job postings' kinda like StackExchange has?
01:49 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: Many things, but if you want something centralized, I'm gonna suggest you use ldap
01:49 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: Or Kerberos
01:49 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: depending on what you want to achieve
01:49 < joelazot> Why not something like samba?
01:49 <+SpeakerToMeat> Because samba is used for coexisting on windows environments.
01:50 < joelazot> ah ok
01:50 <+SpeakerToMeat> If you have a hybrid environment with a windows based master sure. otherwise, go with native solutions
01:51 < joelazot> ah ok
01:51 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: We had a valinux machine at the isp for a short while
01:56 < joelazot> I'm thinking maybe i should look for a 'mentor' so to speak
01:56 < cryptic1> joelazot, they can use openldap or shockingly Windows AD
01:57 < joelazot> why would they want to use Windows AD? Hybrid environments?
01:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: No, do not suggest AD for someone without a hybrid enviro :D please
01:57 < enix> There is no difference between a "data only" sim card and a normal sim card hey
01:57 <+SpeakerToMeat> cryptic1: Fighting winbind based shit leads to insanity
01:58 < enix> Like, let's say you had a "data only" sim card but you wanted to make calls, you could 100% contact your ISP and be allowed to do that right
01:58 < joelazot> Bear in mind i'm still learning linux :p i'm still in highschool remember.
01:58 <+SpeakerToMeat> enix: Not your isp but the cell network owner, or the isp if they have an arragement
01:59 <+NinjaStyle> joelazot: go graduate nerd
01:59 < enix> sorry, meant to say s/ISP/arrer
01:59 < enix> carrier*
01:59 < joelazot> NinjaStyle: Cant right now; I'm only 15 lol
01:59 <+NinjaStyle> Get older nerd
01:59 < joelazot> kek
02:00 < joelazot> NinjaStyle: I do think i'm doing well so far; I've already got a job doing random shit at a VERY small MSP.
02:00 <+NinjaStyle> You can GED next year
02:00 < joelazot> GED?
02:00 <+NinjaStyle> Graduate equivalency degree
02:00 <+NinjaStyle> It's like a Test out of HS
02:00 < joelazot> Not in New Zealand AFAIK
02:00 <+NinjaStyle> Oh
02:01 < joelazot> ye
02:01 < joelazot> I'm gonna see if at the end of next year I can get into University
02:02 <+SpeakerToMeat> enix: That will depend on your carrier most probably
02:02 < enix> mmk interesting
02:02 <+SpeakerToMeat> enix: The data only sim will have most probably an identifying code they'll ident as data only at the towers/network, wether they can/will allow calls, is the question
02:02 < enix> someone at work just said that they can't do on call because their carrier "gave them a data only sim instead of a regular sim"
02:03 < enix> However I have the exact same plan as him and I can do SMS from my service, and on my previous services with this carrier I've been able to make phone calls
02:03 < enix> So we're a bit like "well... you're full of shit"
02:03 < technonerd> i can make data only sims in the verizon portal when i activate lines for ipads
02:03 < joelazot> What are some KEY linux skills I should learn?
02:04 < Trapdoor> So...
02:04 < enix> joelazot: gentoo
02:04 < voice> not deleting glibc
02:05 < joelazot> enix: looks like someone browses /g/ kek
02:05 < Trapdoor> oh thank fucking god it's just the vss that failed
02:05 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: Start with being able to repair config errors in cli, in my view you should be able to configure stuff via cli before using gui apps for that
02:05 < joelazot> I don't like using GUI stuff
02:05 < joelazot> feels weird
02:05 < voice> process management, cli file editing, fs management
02:06 < joelazot> vim? or can i be a pleb and use nano
02:06 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: Start with nano, then test drive vim and emacs a little, to see which feels right for you
02:06 < voice> well, I look at it this way, so far I haven't come across a RHEL/CentOS install with nano out of the box
02:06 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: Learn to read logs, and google :D
02:06 < joelazot> yup!
02:07 <+SpeakerToMeat> voice: They should have at least pico
02:08 < voice> I forgot pico is a thing
02:08 < joelazot> Would you guys reccomend any free courses?
02:08 < voice> joelazot, I learned by just running a small website on a VPS
02:08 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: The best free course is serverfault
02:09 < joelazot> hah i get what you mean
02:09 < joelazot> I'm just worried that i'll waste my time learning useless stuff, SpeakerToMeat
02:09 < voice> doesn't hurt that being a cheapass in college made Linux my daily driver os
02:10 < DLSteve> does RHEL even ship with vim? I always end up having to use vi.
02:11 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: Don't study cobol. then you might not learn useless stuff. there's few if any useless stuff to learn really
02:11 < rhqq> ubuntu does not :P
02:11 < Trapdoor> joelazot, you won't need vi
02:11 < Trapdoor> nano is available on 99.99% of linux systems by default
02:11 < Trapdoor> fuck vi, vi is bloat
02:11 < joelazot> Should i use KVM or Qemu?
02:12 < Trapdoor> vmware
02:12 < voice> KVM uses Qemu
02:12 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: kvm with qemu fs elements
02:12 <+SpeakerToMeat> that is, kvm
02:12 < joelazot> fs?
02:12 < voice> depends on what you're looking for
02:12 < Trapdoor> also python, learn python
02:12 < joelazot> how much python?
02:12 <+CheckYourSix> Trapdoor: vi master race!
02:13 <+SpeakerToMeat> kvm uses qemu elements for filesystem/image management
02:13 < joelazot> I already know a decent bit of python
02:13 < Trapdoor> enough to automate backups of confoigurations etc
02:13 < agent_white> However much it takes?
02:13 < Trapdoor> configurations*
02:13 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: Do you want to work with this?
02:13 < agent_white> You can't prepare ahead of time for everything, just jump in and learn as you go.
02:13 < Trapdoor> basically enough to automate tasks that you should be doing
02:13 < Trapdoor> repeatedly*
02:13 < Trapdoor> routinely*
02:13 < joelazot> SpeakerToMeat: work with.... Linux? or Python?
02:13 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: Do you want to work your ass off, be expendable but have a slighter chance of making some money?
02:13 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: linux
02:14 < joelazot> Yes.
02:14 < joelazot> I really want to work with linux
02:14 < Trapdoor> but why?
02:14 < joelazot> Do i need to justify why, Trapdoor?
02:15 < Trapdoor> No, I'm just curious
02:15 < DLSteve> I really want t work with Windows Server 2016 Datacenter Edition!
02:15 < joelazot> I really enjoy CLI based stuff, and After of using Linux for a few months then going to windows since i started to work in a windows MSP I realised how much I missed Linux
02:15 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: Then, start with a few basic installs, set up a vm and install and set up a few virtuals for different services, apache first, then postgres or mysql/maria and then nginx, once you feel you have the hang of the basics of installing and doing shit, go with the intensive and spend time on docker and containers. You migth pick up configuration frameworks, mainly chef, maybe puppet too.
02:15 < DLSteve> joelazot, Powershell exists if you like CLI.
02:16 < joelazot> SpeakerToMeat: Is docker used far more than LXC containers?
02:16 < Trapdoor> never heard of a lxc container so I assume yes
02:16 < agent_white> They are different. Have different use cases.
02:16 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: I'm not in large enterprise enough to tell you which is "used more" but I can tell you at least for the close future you will find docker work
02:16 < agent_white> Though both lxc and Docker use the same fundamentals (cgroups and namespaces) under the hood.
02:16 < voice> docker seems to be more in use than lxc
02:17 < DLSteve> Docker is also much more than just a container format, it also does networking, versioning, etc...
02:17 <+SpeakerToMeat> nod
02:17 < voice> its a thing, thats all I know
02:17 < joelazot> DLSteve: Yeah; I Do plan on learning windows server as well, as then I can work in Hybrid environments so to speak.
02:17 < agent_white> And if you're going to pickup Docker, look into Kubernetes.
02:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> joelazot: It's not bad to know a little of everything, I'm that kind of person, but for being a sysadmin or devops, you will need to go deeper into one of the enviroments, "doing some windows" is not something you can use at a large environment in enterprise. it's usefull for communicating with peers and solving some issues either your side or theirs, but to work in a good place you'll need to go
02:18 <+SpeakerToMeat> deep on one side most probably
02:19 <+SpeakerToMeat> not that there isn't really smart people who can go deep in both, but it'll take time, and lots of sweat
02:19 < joelazot> Yeah, I phrased my sentence wrong. I meant to say that I'd like to be very knowlegeable in both windows and linux.
02:19 <+SpeakerToMeat> Ok I'm out, gonna lie in bed, coddle the cats, and try to see if I can upgrade my phone without too much suffering
02:19 < joelazot> Cya
02:20 < joelazot> i'M OUT.
02:20 < joelazot> cya guys.
02:20 < MillerBoss> BYEEEE
02:21 <+CheckYourSix> I should set my old laptop up as a physical DC. It's just collecting dust
02:21 < sideup66> Hey folks
02:21 < sideup66> Is it beer thirty yet
02:23 < voice> when isn't it?
02:26 < nohusuro> mornin o7
02:31 < enix> cant tell if phone is disconnected or if the guy at work just got another coworker to pretend like his phones broken
02:33 < enix> Nope it's disconnected
02:44 < MillerBoss> `bofh
02:44 <+layer-eight> BOFH Proprietary information.
02:48 < catbeard> they hung up on u
02:56 < MillerBoss> What are all of the lurkers up to?
03:01 < agent_white> Trying to think of a project idea.
03:01 <+CheckYourSix> Hmmm. To put a head unit in the beater car or not...
03:02 < MillerBoss> To start on agent_white ?
03:02 <+CheckYourSix> agent_white: What type of project
03:02 < MillerBoss> Aren't head units now a days just CD players? CheckYourSix?
03:03 <+CheckYourSix> MillerBoss: No? Lots of new ones are just digital receivers, no CD slots
03:03 < MillerBoss> Ahh. I just use Bluetooth to FM
03:03 < MillerBoss> And iPhone
03:04 < MillerBoss> I don't spend enough time in my car, maybe you do though
03:04 <+CheckYourSix> My beater car (daily driver) has the factory radio in it. Only has FM radio pretty much. Debating whether I should swap the head unit or just get one of those bluetooth to FM things... but meh.
03:04 <+CheckYourSix> Meh, 12-15k miles per year
03:04 < MillerBoss> 15 minutes to work
03:04 < MillerBoss> You?
03:04 <+CheckYourSix> 10 minutes for me, but I drive a lot on the weekends
03:04 < agent_white> Mmm I'm not sure... I kinda want to work on C programming so I was thinking about writing a shell, also thinking I need to finish up my inital run at learning BGP/OSPF (was about to setup a handful of lxc containers w/ openvswitch for testing).
03:04 < MillerBoss> Ahh
03:04 < agent_white> s/inital/initial/
03:04 <+layer-eight> [SED agent_white] Mmm I'm not sure... I kinda want to work on C programming so I was thinking about writing a shell, also thinking I need to finish up my initial run at learning BGP/OSPF (was about to setup a handful of lxc containers w/ openvswitch for testing).
03:05 <+CheckYourSix> It's not worth anything crazy. If it was a nice car, I'd go for a double DIN touch screen with Android Auto. I'm just looking for something cheap with HD Radio and Bluetooth
03:05 < MillerBoss> Wow that sucks. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/06/07/apple-watch-displays-class-action-lawsuit/ I bet a small amount of people. Shit happens
03:05 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Class Action Lawsuit: Apple Watches Have Defective Displays That Can Spontaneously Detach - Mac Rumors
03:07 < technonerd> I only get the local indie station on my radio
03:07 < technonerd> Jdm life sucks
03:08 < MillerBoss> Thats an app for that
03:08 < MillerBoss> s/Thats/There's
03:08 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss] There's an app for that
03:11 < technonerd> So stream on my phone while driving my car?
03:12 < MillerBoss> tunein app
03:12 < MillerBoss> Yes
03:13 < MillerBoss> When I listen to talk radio in the car sometimes the brewers game is on instead. Thats when I use tunein. Also Alexa uses tunein to. Say play WKRP and Alexa will
03:14 < MillerBoss> rootsudo: Whats the good word? No more ragequit OK?
03:14 < technonerd> Japanese FM only goes to 90mhz
03:14 < rootsudo> lol MillerBoss
03:14 < rootsudo> i took the day off
03:14 < MillerBoss> Oh you are in Japan, technonerd ?
03:14 < technonerd> Hence I only get one statuon
03:14 < technonerd> I own a jdm car in America
03:15 < MillerBoss> So get a new radio?
03:15 < MillerBoss> How did that go rootsudo ?
03:20 <+CheckYourSix> Sweet, $250 bonus on top of the overtime for helping the marketing people with a project Mon-Weds
03:26 < MillerBoss> Great job, eh
03:29 <+CheckYourSix> Better than just overtime alone. I'll take an extra $250
03:29 <+CheckYourSix> Especially for a simple 3 day event where I just had to make sure people didn't do anything stupid
03:31 < MillerBoss> Apparently someone contacted OSHA today and someone overheard that person talking about it and brought it to the attention of a manager which then wanted access to the email account to check emails. I thoughts come on, really?
03:32 < MillerBoss> Thought*
03:32 < MillerBoss> I doubt he used his own work account but going after that guy is illegal isn't it CheckYourSix?
03:32 <+CheckYourSix> MillerBoss: Yes
03:32 <+CheckYourSix> Very
03:33 < MillerBoss> In my mind what ever it takes to be safe.
03:33 <+CheckYourSix> Maybe not viewing the email itself, but any retaliation or anything is absolutely illegal and they can get hit 100x harder for doing that. CYA for sure and document it all. Tell them everything related to it must go in writing and needs approval from someone much higher up.
03:35 <+CheckYourSix> Cause that's gonna turn into a mess
03:35 < MillerBoss> Who gets the fine the manager or the company if someone was done to the employee about filing a complaint?
03:35 <+CheckYourSix> Company, but if they're smart they'll fire that manager on the spot
03:35 < MillerBoss> s/someone/something
03:35 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBoss] Who gets the fine the manager or the company if something was done to the employee about filing a complaint?
03:35 <+CheckYourSix> For even making the request
03:35 < MillerBoss> Its the main people that run the joint :\
03:36 < MillerBoss> So they are not going anywhere
03:36 <+CheckYourSix> Did they tell you this was in reference to an OSHA complaint or did you just hear it through the grape vine?
03:38 <+CheckYourSix> MillerBoss: https://www.osha.gov/workers/index.html
03:38 <+layer-eight> * CheckYourSix →  OSHA Worker Rights and Protections | Occupational Safety and Health Administration
03:38 < m4221> Hello failures
03:38 < MillerBoss> The manager that asked fort access to the email account did not state it in chat but the person that overheard the person that filed the complaint brought it to the manager's attention and that was why he wanted access. And that information was learned by the other IT dude. I was busy putting out fires on the phone and all
03:39 < MillerBoss> Thanks for the link
03:39 < m4221> Damn gubmint tellin me what I cant make my mployees do?!?!
03:39 <+CheckYourSix> MillerBoss: Also, read the information on this page - https://www.osha.gov/whistleblower/WBComplaint.html
03:40 <+layer-eight> * CheckYourSix →  Notice of Whistleblower Complaint | Occupational Safety and Health Administration
03:40 <+CheckYourSix> Notice how many times the first link says without fear of retaliation and even bolds it? They don't play.
03:41 < MillerBoss> Good.
03:41 < MillerBoss> I am sure this will be interesting.
03:41 < m4221> MillerBoss: you're fired ;)
03:42 < MillerBoss> Done. I will move in with you now since I have no income, m4221
03:42 < MillerBoss> Be there shortly.
03:42 < MillerBoss> Are complaints and or "strikes" against a business public at all CheckYourSix ?
03:43 < catbeard> what if they wanna suck it
03:43 < catbeard> js
03:43 <+CheckYourSix> OSHA has a giant cock. If they can prove an employer retaliated, they will ram it so far up the company's ass they won't know what hit them
03:43 <+CheckYourSix> Example case - https://blog.dol.gov/2015/04/15/blowing-the-whistle-on-the-postal-service/
03:43 <+layer-eight> * CheckYourSix →  Blowing the Whistle on the Postal Service | U.S. Department of Labor Blog
03:44 <+CheckYourSix> MillerBoss: Complaints are confidential. If they find it's a valid complaint and issue a citation, that is public
03:45 <+CheckYourSix> See here - https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/establishment.html
03:45 <+layer-eight> * CheckYourSix →  Establishment Search Page | Occupational Safety and Health Administration
03:45 <+CheckYourSix> Err sorry
03:45 < MillerBoss> Thanks for the link. So I wonder if hunting for an "email" is bad already. I mean its a bad sign for sure.
03:45 <+CheckYourSix> Who made the complaint is confidential
03:46 < MillerBoss> Well they guy maybe should have kept it to himself though
03:46 <+CheckYourSix> The data that there was a complaint is public
03:46 <+CheckYourSix> Yeah, he should have
03:47 < MillerBoss> And then the nark that told a manager.
03:48 <+CheckYourSix> He was probably just trying to be a brown noser
03:48 < MillerBoss> It was a girl even. :P
03:48 < MillerBoss> And yes most likely
03:48 <+CheckYourSix> If those 4 links don't wake management up, I don't know what to tell you
03:49 < MillerBoss> I'll share with the manager tomorrow. He is a good guy but old fashioned a bit
03:49 < MillerBoss> And open minded usually.
03:49 < MillerBoss> But thank you for sharing your expertise.
03:51 <+CheckYourSix> No problem
03:52 <+CheckYourSix> For fun, look up any major company on that last link. You can see the complaints and inspections and see what (if any) violations were issued
03:57 < MillerBoss> Yeah interesting.
04:02 < MillerBoss> https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/8pc8mf/im_nat_friedman_future_ceo_of_github_ama/
04:02 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  I’m Nat Friedman, future CEO of GitHub. AMA. : AMA
04:03 < MillerBoss> Developers Developers Developers
04:03 < MillerBoss> Developers Developers Developers
04:03 <@Nostalg14c> Mornin.
04:03 < MillerBoss> Hello Nostalg14c
04:07 < MillerBoss> This is interesting
04:07 < MillerBoss> >One of the cool things about GitHub is that GitHub runs on GitHub; their sales, marketing, and legal functions actually use issues and pull requests to collaborate across the company. This means that all of the various teams work in the open, and this contributes to a very collaborative culture (it also means that new lawyers at GitHub learn how to merge a PR and which emojis to use when they join!)
04:07 < MillerBoss> https://old.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/8pc8mf/im_nat_friedman_future_ceo_of_github_ama/e0a31ce/
04:07 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  kumpera comments on I’m Nat Friedman, future CEO of GitHub. AMA.
04:08 < MillerBoss> >we use Atom and Teletype to collaborate with remote colleagues.
04:09 < MillerBoss> I didn't know this was a thing. https://teletype.atom.io/
04:09 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Teletype for Atom
04:10 < MillerBoss> Its like Google Docs for coding.
04:12 < catbeard> codeanywhere is pretty deent
04:12 < catbeard> decent
04:12 <@Nostalg14c> What is old.reddit
04:12 < catbeard> old reddit
04:12 < catbeard> :)
04:13 < MillerBoss> Sure the hell not shittty reddit
04:13 < catbeard> i mean still shitty
04:13 < catbeard> just old
04:13 < MillerBoss> But still better than new
04:13 <@Nostalg14c> It looks identical to my current one.
04:13 < MillerBoss> :P
04:13 <@Nostalg14c> Is the new UI like.. geo dependnat or something.
04:13 <@Nostalg14c> Or opt-out.
04:13 < MillerBoss> No idea there sir
04:13 < catbeard> -shrug-
04:13 <@Nostalg14c> I see complaints but nothing aobut my reddit experience has changed lol.
04:14 < MillerBoss> old is reddit how it used to be www. is new
04:14 < catbeard> does RES work on old
04:14 <@Nostalg14c> ye i'm on www
04:14 <@Nostalg14c> without res
04:14 < MillerBoss> Yup
04:14 <@Nostalg14c> nothing diff.
04:14 < MillerBoss> Beats me
04:14 < catbeard> #metoo
04:14 < MillerBoss> #meetoo
04:15 <+NinjaStyle> The new one sucks
04:16 < MillerBoss> >GitHub was obviously an early adopter of Rails and the team has done an incredible job of scaling their stack to being one of the largest sites on the internet (#34 in the US on Alexa). There are no plans to replatform GitHub.
04:20 < MillerBoss> OK, I'll bite https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=_wGLS2rSQPQ
04:20 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  YouTube → The Microsoft cyber attack | DW Documentary → ⚘ 35,684 ↑ 763 ↓ 44 ✍ 231
04:22 < MillerBoss> I wonder if Microsoft would ever release an open source version of Windows
04:24 <@Nostalg14c> nope
04:24 < catbeard> that's like Proxy Paige having a public FB chat
04:25 <@Nostalg14c> There's nothing for them to gain by doing that.
04:25 <+NinjaStyle> They should replace not kernel with Linux kernel
04:25 <+NinjaStyle> NT*
04:25 <@Nostalg14c> yuck.
04:25 < catbeard> y not Gentoo
04:25 <+NinjaStyle> Windows loves linux
04:25 <@Nostalg14c> I think you vastly underestimate the NT kernel.
04:25 < catbeard> with RAP
04:26 < catbeard> and RBAC
04:26 <+NinjaStyle> Windows loves open sauce
04:26 < catbeard> yas but they still charge for the open sauce
04:26 < catbeard> gotta buy Windows 10
04:26 < catbeard> i mean you can pirate it
04:27 < catbeard> son of a bumbling fuck
04:27 < catbeard> i broke my cig
04:28 <+NinjaStyle> Glue
04:29 <+NinjaStyle> Then u can smoke glue and tobacco
04:30 < catbeard> rite
04:30 < catbeard> only the finest glue
04:30 < catbeard> speaking of, i got some Biscotti strain today
04:31 < catbeard> https://www.leafly.com/products/details/connected-cannabis-co-biscotti
04:31 <+layer-eight> * catbeard →  Biscotti by Connected Cannabis Co. : Information & Reviews - Leafly
04:31 < catbeard> i like how it says $60
04:44 <@Nostalg14c> Friday here.
04:44 <@Nostalg14c> Good times.
04:52 < togenshi> i slept in this morning, too cold
04:53 < togenshi> in weekend mode already though
04:55 <+NinjaStyle> Nostalg14c: brag more
04:55 <+NinjaStyle> You nerd
04:55 <+NinjaStyle> <3
05:00 < nohusuro> not only is it Friday, it's almost lunch time! :D
05:00 < nohusuro> also, this week was a 4 day week
05:00 < nohusuro> at least, for western australia
05:05 < JollyRgrs> what's all this nonsense talk about it being friday and being cold!
05:05 < JollyRgrs> pls send this way
05:05 <+NinjaStyle> Man my client has a super convoluted process for me to access their web app
05:11 <@Nostalg14c> togenshi: i forgot to ride today
05:11 <@Nostalg14c> since the weather has been so shit last couple days
05:12 <+NinjaStyle> Want my weather?
05:13 <+NinjaStyle> 77 degrees F
05:13 <+NinjaStyle> 71% relative humidity
05:13 <@Nostalg14c> .wa 77f in actual useful humane temperature
05:13 <@Nostalg14c> 25c
05:14 <@Nostalg14c> Thats pretty damn perfect.
05:15 < nohusuro> that humidity though
05:15 < nohusuro> give me a dry heat any day
05:17 <+CheckYourSix> Celcius is so weird
05:17 <@Nostalg14c> 0 is freezing. 100 is boiling.
05:17 <@Nostalg14c> I meean, it's not that weird.
05:18 <@Nostalg14c> wtf is the freezing/boiling points for water in F?
05:18 <+CheckYourSix> That's about the only thing that makes sense with it
05:18 <+CheckYourSix> 32 freezing, 212 boiling
05:18 <@Nostalg14c> ye, good one
05:18 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah Georgia gets humid I guess
05:18 <+NinjaStyle> Feels less oppressive than tx some how
05:19 <+NinjaStyle> I like farenheight because it's more precision
05:20 <+CheckYourSix> ^
05:20 < togenshi> Nostalg14c: its fairly slippery on the roads atm. got the mt-09 now and need to tiptoe everywhere. with klx, it was a case of you can't lose grip if you had no grip
05:20 <+NinjaStyle> Plus 0-100 is basically all normal earth temps
05:21 <@Nostalg14c> https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/2xki9e/is_fahrenheit_considered_more_precise_than_celsius/
05:21 <+layer-eight> * Nostalg14c →  Is Fahrenheit considered more "precise" than Celsius? : askscience
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> Like 0 is hella cold
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> 100 is hot af
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> But they both happen
05:21 <@Nostalg14c> 100 does not happen.
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> In f it does
05:21 <+NinjaStyle> That's what I'm saying
05:22 < togenshi> i think you can get 60C on the ground in the outback
05:22 <@Nostalg14c> All i'm saying is, you retards use Imperial. So your point is invalid.
05:22 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
05:22 <+NinjaStyle> I agree that metric is better
05:23 <+NinjaStyle> But we got temp better
05:23 <@Nostalg14c> Nah.
05:23 <@Nostalg14c> 32 and 212 makes no sense.
05:23 <+NinjaStyle> So
05:23 <+NinjaStyle> Who cares
05:23 <+NinjaStyle> Pi makes no sense
05:23 <+NinjaStyle> We do t change the base of our numbering for more sensical pi
05:23 <@Nostalg14c> One million mathematicians just rolled over in their graves.
05:24 <+NinjaStyle> We only use base because fingers
05:24 <+NinjaStyle> 10*
05:25 <@Nostalg14c> I don't know if that argument is true.
05:25 < togenshi> Nostalg14c: much planned for the weekend?
05:25 <+NinjaStyle> Why not?
05:25 <@Nostalg14c> togenshi: tattoo getting final pass/touch up tomorrow, then a friends birthday out in the hills.
05:25 <@Nostalg14c> wbu?
05:25 <+NinjaStyle> If we had 8 fingers we would be base 8
05:25 <@Nostalg14c> NinjaStyle: Because it's a dumb argument.
05:26 <+NinjaStyle> Base 10 is pretty tarded imo
05:27 <@Nostalg14c> Why?
05:27 <+NinjaStyle> It's not very divisible
05:28 <+NinjaStyle> Like we 60 for clocks because it's hella divisible
05:29 < togenshi> rflan stuff and working on vehicles. Broke till the 15th :(
05:29 < nohusuro> how is fahrenheit more precise? you can have partial celcius? like 60.5
05:29 < nohusuro> but who ever gets that specific?
05:29 <@Nostalg14c> (It's not)
05:29 <+NinjaStyle> The point is 100 never really happens
05:29 <+NinjaStyle> Weather wise
05:29 < togenshi> does it matter?
05:30 <+NinjaStyle> And often does the boiling point of water matter
05:30 <+NinjaStyle> How often*
05:30 < nohusuro> NinjaStyle: well if your talking about those cases, it doesn't make much difference, but melting metal is hot as fuck :P
05:30 < nohusuro> all fires get over 100 degrees pretty much
05:30 <+CheckYourSix> nohusuro: Cause who wants to deal with decimals on temperature
05:31 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah but 0-100f is Normal weather
05:31 <@killdash9> base 12 is superior. fite me
05:31 <+NinjaStyle> I vote base 8
05:31 <+NinjaStyle> Or base 16
05:31 < nojeffrey> 100c for boiling water at sea level is a good reference so others can calibrate/refrenece , where as a kg is hard to define
05:32 <@Nostalg14c> 1L of water is 1Kg
05:33 < nojeffrey> Fahrenheit
05:33 < nojeffrey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSJXC6_qQ8&list=LLJLTrbPfXEOK0nN80zjfveg&index=194
05:33 <+layer-eight> * nojeffrey →  YouTube → Playlist: Liked videos → 2293 videos → The American Kilogram → ⚘ 1,570,768 ↑ 42,022 ↓ 877 ✍ 4,114
05:33 <@Nostalg14c> and 1L is 10cmx10cmx10cm
05:33 <@Nostalg14c> I mean, it all makes fucking sense.
05:33 <+CheckYourSix> I agree with the metric system except for Celcius cause it's just weird
05:35 < JollyRgrs> nojeffrey: and what kind of sea water is it and at what elevation?
05:35 < JollyRgrs> not all sea water is the same salinity
05:36 < JollyRgrs> Freedom units is the correct temperature measurement for humans... and Kelvin for all things science
05:36 < JollyRgrs> done!
05:39 < catbeard> <s>fap</s> i mean NCIS time
05:40 < catbeard> WEAAAAAWAWWWWW DO DO DOO DOOOOOOO DO DO DO DO DO DO DO DO DO DOO DO
05:42 < nojeffrey> JollyRgrs I just know 0c and 100c are easier to define/measure than a KG
05:43 < nojeffrey> speed of light is also the same, easy to define/repeat
05:49 < MillerBoss> hashtag
05:51 < togenshi> universal constants are what most things are measured against now days
05:55 < nojeffrey> Yeah, thats the words i was looking for. except for the KG, which is based on ball of some metal stored in lab which loses weight every year
05:56 < togenshi> well, its a set of weights
05:56 < togenshi> atm scientists are trying to find the planck length for distance
05:57 < togenshi> forgot what they are doing for weight
05:58 < nojeffrey> so does 100.00c convert to exactly 212F ? or is it something like 212.254125?
05:59 < JollyRgrs> C to F is like 32 + 5/8(C) or something?
05:59 <@Nostalg14c> what
06:00 <@Nostalg14c> double it add 12
06:00 < JollyRgrs> nope
06:00 < JollyRgrs> that's just a "quick and dirty"
06:00 < JollyRgrs> To convert temperatures in degrees Fahrenheit to Celsius, subtract 32 and multiply by .5556 (or 5/9)
06:00 < JollyRgrs> i was close
06:00 <@Nostalg14c> T(°F) = T(°C) × 1.8 + 32
06:01 < JollyRgrs> yeah, not quite double
06:02 < abakedapplepie> 1/2 is close enough
06:02 < abakedapplepie> and doable in your head
06:02 < abakedapplepie> or 2
06:02 < abakedapplepie> vice versa
06:03 < JollyRgrs> tell that to my kid's math teacher this year
06:03 <@Nostalg14c> lol
06:03 < abakedapplepie> lol
06:03 < abakedapplepie> school assignments are another thing
06:12 < Church-> What was our quotes website again?
06:12 < JollyRgrs> /topic
06:13 < Church-> Fuck, I somehow missed it.
06:19 < MillerBoss> Just seeing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLlMTn_Jzok
06:19 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  YouTube → Wet Hot American Summer: First Day of Camp | Official Trailer [HD] | Netflix → ⚘ 4,498,312 ↑ 9,657 ↓ 1,749 ✍ 1,190
06:20 < xe0n> great movie
06:20 < xe0n> been around for years, 2001 i think lol
06:20 < MillerBoss> Thats a TV show there ^
06:20 < xe0n> the netflix seasons after it are good too
06:20 < MillerBoss> Oh, yeah
06:20 < MillerBoss> I haven't seen either
06:20 < xe0n> yeah, so movie came out 2001, then the netflix seasons
06:20 < xe0n> cult classic
06:21 < MillerBoss> Yeah it looks like it
06:22 < xe0n> good for a laugh
06:22 < MillerBoss> This looks good too https://youtu.be/sdmYXoXL3Wc
06:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdmYXoXL3Wc&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → GOTTI Trailer NEW (2018) - John Travolta Mafia Drama → ⚘ 727,930 ↑ 4,116 ↓ 317 ✍ 857
06:22 < xe0n> travolta
06:23 < MillerBoss> Did/does Aussie land ever have their version of USA mafia?
06:24 < nojeffrey> Biker gangs and some underworld figures
06:24 < xe0n> ^
06:24 < nojeffrey> but there are taskforces that monitor/break most of them up
06:25 < xe0n> biker bud sucks balls
06:25 < nojeffrey> even put in laws saying they cant ride in more than groups of 2 or something similar
06:25 < xe0n> yep, here in qld
06:25 < xe0n> melb still allows them i think...
06:25 < nojeffrey> so not even old retired guys who like harleys cant ride in groups of 3?
06:26 < xe0n> they're not allowed to wear colours\patches
06:26 < nojeffrey> ah
06:27 < MillerBoss> If its biker gangs then I think y'all are safe then. :P
06:31 < xe0n> hells angels are up here
06:33 < nojeffrey> they're anoying af, trying to enjoy a nice lunch and coffee on chapel st, rabble rabble rabble
06:35 < MillerBoss> I need help
06:35 < MillerBoss> Wanting to download everything under the sun
06:38 < Maarten> what's keeping ya
06:38 < MillerBoss> Oh I am doing it, trust me
06:38 < MillerBoss> But the seedbed has only so much space
06:39 < Maarten> You need a Download Anonymous support group?
06:39 < MillerBoss> seedbox
06:39 < MillerBoss> Then I need to seed
06:39 < MillerBoss> etc etc
06:39 < MillerBoss> Then I add a shit load of files and fill up the seedbox so it says fuck you
06:40 < Maarten> I am my own seedbox. Why hire outsourced VM's when I have a Gigabit fiber line to my home and all the hard drives I can afford to buy :P
06:40 < MillerBoss> Yes, got a recommendation Maarten ?
06:40 < MillerBoss> OK, then set me up partner.
06:40 < Maarten> Get yer own gigabit line! :P
06:40  * MillerBoss rolls eyes
06:40 < MillerBoss> :P
06:41 < MillerBoss> I keep looking for the download all button too
06:41 < Maarten> scripts... :P
06:42 < MillerBoss> Yeah but there are so many variations of a release if its TV or Movie
06:42 < Maarten> or tampermonkey in browsers
06:42 < MillerBoss> Oh no I got that part covered
06:42 < MillerBoss> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/remote-torrent-adder/oabphaconndgibllomdcjbfdghcmenci is handy
06:42 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Remote Torrent Adder - Chrome Web Store
06:43 < MillerBoss> Also https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/linkclump/lfpjkncokllnfokkgpkobnkbkmelfefj
06:43 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Linkclump - Chrome Web Store
06:43 < Maarten> I'm long long past the "i need everything" stage.... that was like 10 years ago. I don't have time to watch it all.
06:44 < MillerBoss> I am not going to watch em all either but I share my stuff out and I want to have this shit years int eh future. :)
06:44 < Maarten> I'll get the 8k or 16k remaster in the future :P
06:46 < nojeffrey> whats your google drive size now?
06:46 < MillerBoss> 29.7TB
06:46 < nojeffrey> heh
06:46 < MillerBoss> x265 releases are small too
06:46 < nojeffrey> you think google do some kind of dedup on backend, so if 500 ppl store the same movie, they only store it once?
06:46 < MillerBoss> Dropbox does that and has for some time I know that
06:47 < Maarten> wouldn't surprise me
06:48 < MillerBoss> And it is interesting I can rclone a movie to Google Drive in NL and be able to watch it nice and fast in US right away. Its as of they move that shit around on their backend network lickity split.
06:49 < MillerBoss> My amount is nothing compared to others in r/datahoarders
06:56 < xe0n> UHD rips are <3
06:56 < xe0n> even look good on my 1080 tv loll
06:57 < MillerBoss> Yeah you are right there.
06:58 < xe0n> a good one to show it is man of steel
06:58 < xe0n> doesn't have the grainy look the bluray does, and the movie has it as well
06:58 < xe0n> but 4k they got rid of that filter, looks nice and smooth
07:04 < jay-ros> Howdy ho mother truckers
07:04 < MillerBoss> yo
07:04 < jay-ros> I'm in trouble guys...
07:04 < jay-ros> I've got time to cover my ass, but I'm still probably fucked
07:05 < MillerBoss> Uh ohhhhhh
07:05 < jay-ros> I've got one month until my girlfriend's birthday, we've been together 6 months... and I'm awful with gifts
07:05 < MillerBoss> This is the trouble?
07:05 < jay-ros> I've outsourced shopping ideas to the office EA
07:05 < MillerBoss> Come on
07:05 < jay-ros> yeah, this is the trouble :P
07:05 < MillerBoss> This is easy
07:05 < jay-ros> I've fixed all the computerey stuff
07:05 < jay-ros> that's humming along
07:05 < MillerBoss> Ask her?
07:05 < MillerBoss> What can she use?
07:06 < MillerBoss> Or maybe you know?
07:28 < nojeffrey> I have a .doc file(.odt also work), that acts as a sort of jinja template, that when used does some lookup in a db, and fills in the data: https://i.imgur.com/YbH2yOb.png, What is this called? I cant find the full lookup it's trying to do, and cant google for what this is even called
07:28 <+layer-eight> * nojeffrey →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 3,633 bytes
07:30 < xe0n> a macro?
07:34 <@Nostalg14c> Lord the dhcp windows logs are useless.
07:37 < nojeffrey> xe0n nah, but all good, can open in txt editor and see the raw lookup it's trying
07:38 < xe0n> sweet
07:49 < xe0n> fml crayon
07:49 < xe0n> woops
07:49 < xe0n> lol
07:50 < MillerBoss> `fml
07:50 <+layer-eight> FML Today, I sent an email to my boss saying I'd fixed a glitch in our mail servers. He called me later, angrily shouting that I'd done a piss-poor job of fixing it,...
07:50 < MillerBoss> I just learned iTerm has instant replay. Mind = Blown
07:51 < MillerBoss> https://youtu.be/-V_STLVYm1c
07:51 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V_STLVYm1c&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → iTerm instant replay / time travel → ⚘ 818 ↑ 15 ↓ 0 ✍ 1
07:51 < xe0n> i was working on a thin client, forgot to turn off the write buffer :|
07:51 < xe0n> LOL
07:56 < togen> argh my boss wants to buy a physical server just for git
07:56 < togen> for fucking git
07:57 < xe0n> sweet, not your money
07:57 < xe0n> spend away :D
07:57 < togen> its another physical server that I have to manage
07:59 < xe0n> more fun for you
08:00 < togen> you say that but when you have 35 servers for a 80 person company, its fucking rediculous
08:01 < togen> i think there is only 3 server that use more than a core of cpu
08:04 < xe0n> cool
08:05 < voidstar> earn your keep, virtualize, and take home some hardware
08:05 < voidstar> make some cash on ebay
08:05 < togen> backups become a pita
08:06 < nohusuro> you have 35 physical servers... ?
08:06 < togen> yeah
08:06 < nohusuro> what are you, a data center ? :P
08:06 < nohusuro> at least you have redundant hardware :P
08:06 < togen> cause my boss doesn't like virtualization
08:06 < nohusuro> for what possible reason?
08:06 < togen> no we don't have redundant hardware
08:06 < nohusuro> well if something died, another machine can pick up the slack
08:06 < togen> cause of "performance"
08:06 < nohusuro> seriously?
08:07 < togen> yeah
08:07 < nohusuro> why would every single major company in the world use virtualization if performance was a problem?
08:07 < togen> I have a vsphere cluster but boss won't let me get essentials plus for vmotion
08:07 < nohusuro> maybe I could understand if all he ever did was plug in a single gigabit ethernet cable
08:07 < MillerBoss> How about I slip you a key?
08:07 < nohusuro> and he was hosting file servers and sql servers
08:08 < togen> MillerBoss: i already have pastebin as my goto but legalities
08:08 < MillerBoss> OK. :)
08:08 < togen> nohusuro: he wants to get a physical server for a software repo solution (perforce) which barely uses a core atm
08:09 < voidstar> I'll sell you an old celeron box for $5000
08:10 < togen> I would be buying a $20k dell R630 for this
08:10 < togen> or R640 if its out
08:10 < voidstar> then my offer is a deal at twice the price
08:10 < togen> but fucking shits me off I have like 30 servers doing 0.01 load
08:11 < voidstar> mine monero?
08:12 < plop> morning nerds and nerdettes
08:12 < xe0n> nearly beer o clock
08:13 < nohusuro> togen: you should figure out how much money they're wasting on power bills
08:13 < nohusuro> versus a virtualised solution that can more efficiently utilise the available resources
08:14 < togen> $50 a day to run our server room
08:14 < togen> he won't listen
08:14 < nohusuro> well then suck it up
08:14 < nohusuro> what's one more server
08:14 < nohusuro> it can't be that hard to manage
08:15 < xe0n> loll
08:15 < nohusuro> just think of all the servers you can put in your homelab when they become end of life
08:15 < plop> so. i have this night manager who tries to watch porn every night at work haha
08:15 < nohusuro> plop: tries?
08:15 < plop> well, firewall denies it.
08:15 < togen> his ethos is "you only upgrade the OS when you replace the server:
08:16 < togen> i have ubuntu 8.04, 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 around the network
08:16 < nohusuro> requisition another server for https://landscape.canonical.com/
08:16 < nohusuro> ;)
08:16 <+layer-eight> * nohusuro →  TEXT/PLAIN Document, 0 bytes
08:19 < MillerBoss> https://panic.com/blog/stolen-source-code/
08:19 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  Panic Blog  » The Case of the Stolen Source Code
08:19 < plop> moring MillerBoss
08:19 < MillerBoss> Hola
08:19 < plop> still up?
08:20 < MillerBoss> Yeah. Been waking up later this week
08:21 < nohusuro> on the bright side togen, with that many physical servers, you could run your own cloud using MAAS (metal as a service)
08:21 < plop> MillerBoss, no new games? tried FTL yet?
08:21 < MillerBoss> Staying away from games for a while
08:22 < plop> MillerBoss, heh
08:22 < togen> nohusuro: what I wouldn't mind is a test env
08:23 < nohusuro> secretly virtualize 5-6 of your servers
08:23 < nohusuro> and use the spares :D
08:23 < togen> it has crossed my mind
08:24 < nojeffrey> Then when he says Look how fast git is running on physical, say HA its virtualised
08:24 < plop> so, what is the best practice to selhost something like a wetransfer? so, we need to send files too big for email or have some available for our clients or providers. is FTP still a thing? users should be able to upload files there and send a link or something to the recipient
08:25 < nohusuro> plop: how good is your internet?
08:25 < plop> nohusuro, good enough 1/1gbps guaranteed.
08:25 < nojeffrey> box.net or onedrive and share the link
08:25 < nohusuro> https://www.projectsend.org/
08:26 < plop> thing is owners don't want to use cloud services
08:26 < plop> checking the link nohusuro
08:26 < plop> oh looks nice
08:29 < nohusuro> https://www.softaculous.com/demos/ProjectSend
08:29 <+layer-eight> * nohusuro →  Softaculous - ProjectSend Demo
08:31 < plop> looks good. i'll install it and see if people can work with it
08:32 < MillerBoss> May I ask the reasoning behind  owners don't want to use cloud services plop ?
08:33 < plop> MillerBoss, well, he doesn't want guests info outside our building. even encrypted,vpn connections..etc
08:34 < MillerBoss> I see
08:41 < Atro> how would you get more than 2 external monitors without a dock or a workstation?
08:41 < Atro> laptop-wise
08:45 < togen> displayport chaining
08:46 < plop> nohusuro, https://xkcd.com/949/
08:46 <+layer-eight> * plop →  xkcd: File Transfer
08:46 < Tzunamii> Morning
08:46 < plop> mornin Tzunamii
08:47 < nohusuro> yeah, that's what it's like sometimes plop  :D
08:47 < plop> hehe
08:47 < nohusuro> I ust sent my sister an 11GB file through our website
08:48 < nohusuro> just*
08:48 < plop> nohusuro, hahah nice
09:03 < zerocool> hi guys
09:03 < MillerBoss> HI
09:21 <+ihre> ugh, i hate reading licenses :p
10:45 < MillerBoss> `bofh
10:45 <+layer-eight> BOFH Popper unable to process jumbo kernel
10:45 < MillerBoss> `bofh
10:45 <+layer-eight> BOFH Evil dogs hypnotised the night shift
10:45 < MillerBoss> `bofh
10:45 <+ihre> meh
10:45 <+layer-eight> BOFH Cellular telephone interference
10:45 <+ihre> 3 times lame
10:45 < plop> `first-seen MillerBoss
10:45 <+layer-eight> I need someone to look for plop
10:45 < plop> it needs someone to look for
10:45 < MillerBoss> Uh oh there he goes
10:46 < plop> `bofh
10:46 <+layer-eight> BOFH Operation failed because: there is no message for this error (#1014)
10:46 <+ihre> i need to sign a license agreement and it asks for a title, i have to sign it as an individual, not as an employee of the company i work for, i have no idea what to fill in though :p
10:46 < MillerBoss> plop: https://github.com/funsocietyirc/MrNodeBot/issues/33
10:46 <+layer-eight> * MillerBoss →  GitHub → funsocietyirc → MrNodeBot → Your Friendly NodeJs IRC Bot Framework → @ ~ 10 hours ago → JavaScript → ✡ 14 → Forks: 4 → ☹ 5
10:47 < MillerBoss> Maybe I should up date it. 10 hours old
10:47 < MillerBoss> Make up shit ihre?
10:47 < MillerBoss> You only live once
10:47 < Trapdoor> I just had to go to #css for help
10:47 < Trapdoor> ugh
10:47 <+ihre> lol
10:48 <+ihre> MillerBoss: senior nuclear physicist sounds pretty cool
10:48 <+ihre> or just goat herder
10:48 < MillerBoss> Yup
10:49 <+ihre> principal belt bomb designer
10:49 <+ihre> Father of Dragons, Breaker of Chains
10:49 < Hatsjoe> ihre: you're now on the list
10:49 <+ihre> THE LIST?!
10:50 <+ihre> for the partyvan?
10:50 < Hatsjoe> "principal belt bomb designer" - ihre
10:50 < Hatsjoe> the partyvan to gitmo :D
10:50 <+ihre> i demand a first class ticket though
10:53 < Trapdoor> Apparently an absolutely position div is relatively posititioned to a relatively positioned parent div
10:55 < Hatsjoe> And that ladies and gentlemen, that is the reason I do not do any frontend work.
10:55 < catbeard> bootstrap
10:55 < catbeard> basically just adminlte and go
10:56 < Trapdoor> Hatsjoe, amazingly enough I got it exactly how I wanted it
10:57 < togen> i hat frontend work, holy shit it drives me nuts
10:58 < plop> `help
10:59 < plop> wb layer-eight
11:09 < FenJai> Morning peeps
11:09 < plop> sup FenJai
11:11 < Hatsjoe> Trapdoor: thats awesome, good for you buddy
11:37 < Trapdoor> look Hatsjoe so pretty: https://i.imgur.com/auB1Enw.png
11:56 < FenJai> What is that Trapdoor ?
12:12 <+ktechmidas> guys, quick question...what's the software called that you can run locally and it'll spin VM's up and configure them and shit?
12:12 <+ktechmidas> the name has completely escaped me
12:17 <+ihre> ktechmidas: vagrant?
12:17 <+ktechmidas> thank you ihre
12:17 <+ihre> havent used it for a while though, mostly been using cloud-init with lxc lately
12:18 <+ktechmidas> That's mostly what I use, I just need to set a few VM's up locally
12:19 <+ktechmidas> and remember it being easier to deal with than libvirt directly
12:19 <+ktechmidas> Although it actually supports lxc https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Vagrant#vagrant-lxc
12:20 <+ihre> with lxc/lxd its just `lxc launch ubuntu-daily:xenial jenkins` followed by `lxc exec jenkins bash`
12:20 <+ihre> yeah, when i used vagrant, i set it up with libvirt
12:20 <+ihre> a lot faster than virtualbox
12:26 <+ktechmidas> yeah, libvirt is still like black magic to me though
12:27 <+ktechmidas> which is why I prefer to use something around it
13:16 < Blinky_> afternoon all, anyone here got any experience with Zend Opcache?
13:17 <+CheckYourSix> I've used it... if you're asking about performance tuning it, I can't answer. What's up?
13:18 < Blinky_> I have it installed onto our live webserver and yesterday before a reboot it was showing 96%+ hit rate.  Today after testing around the site I am only getting 3%.  Same settings as yesterday.
13:18 < Blinky_> I have 116 misses and 4 hits
13:20 <+CheckYourSix> Strange. What kind of site
13:21 < Blinky_> Company office system
13:26 < Alternity> oh man Zend
13:26 < Alternity> fuckin' PHP man
13:27 <+CheckYourSix> Blinky_: How much space is it showing Opcache using? And is there anything in the logs?
13:29 < Blinky_> Showing 20% used (38.6Mb) - Where do I find the logs on a centos 7 cpanel server?
13:29 <+CheckYourSix> Cpanel. Not sure off hand.
13:32 < Blinky_> There are no errors in the error_log for apache2
13:33 < genr8___> i cant wait for all the shoddy RGB computer gear to start to die in a couple years... with like 1 or 2 burned out LED's to make it look super wonky.
13:35 <+CheckYourSix> Blinky_: 3% is really low. Shouldn't be anywhere near that. How long has it been back online?
13:37 < Blinky_> Overnight but there are only 2 of us testing on it at the moment, even so I would have thought it would be a little higher than it is.  There are only 120 scripts cached and 116 of them are missed by opcache
13:40 <+CheckYourSix> Is it a full website or just individual pieces of things available?
13:41 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: why you up so early
13:41 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: I should've been at work like 40 minutes ago
13:41 <+CheckYourSix> I'm being lazy
13:41 < Blinky_> Massive site, a lot of files and scripts linking all over the place.
13:41 <+NinjaStyle> Eeee
13:41 <+CheckYourSix> Blinky_: I'm not sure what's going on. That doesn't sound right
13:41 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: Why are you up so early?
13:42 < Blinky_> ok, cheers anyhow, it will be going live soon so I will keep an eye on it when the users start using it and the load goes up.
13:43 < plop> remember. RO FRIDAY guys
14:04 < Alternity> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44414747 goddamit :(
14:04 < Alternity> watched a ton of no reservations and read some of his books, amazing and insightful guy
14:06 < JFDkthx> morning nerds
14:07 < katnip> mornin geeks
14:13 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: eastern tz
14:14 <+CheckYourSix> NinjaStyle: You're traveling?
14:18 < JFDkthx> nothing like a sausage egg and cheese sandwhich with a shitton of siracha to start the day
14:19 < Nightcinder> Under the terms of the settlement, ZTE is paying an immediate $1B fine, on top of the existing $892M in fines they’ve already paid related to their misconduct in this case. Furthermore the company will have to completely clean house on its executive team and board of directors, replacing all of the members in both of those groups. Meanwhile to ensure ongoing compliance, ZTE is being required to put a further $400M
14:19 < Nightcinder> in escrow, which would be forfeit if they violated US export regulations again. And the company will be required to host and pay for a US-selected compliance team that will oversee the company’s compliance over the term of the agreement.
14:19 < Nightcinder> waow
14:19 < silentfury-s4pro> JFDkthx: a decent helping of gochujang vs sriracha would be tastier.
14:19 < corn266> "In our last email I provided you with a spreadsheet of what we need to buy" "buy all of it"
14:19 < JFDkthx> silentfury-s4pro: used to put that on my chicken
14:20 < silentfury-s4pro> i could eat that stuff for days
14:20 < genr8___> mmmmmmm chicken
14:20 < JFDkthx> i havent had it since i stopped having a korean roommate
14:21 < Nightcinder> i'm surprised the US allowed ZTE back in
14:21 < corn266> what, JFDkthx, you only eat cat or dog now?
14:21 < JFDkthx> corn266: eating dog is like eating a roast.
14:22 < JFDkthx> no much difference.
14:22 < katnip> Nightcinder: i am too
14:22 < Nightcinder> what kind of roast
14:22 < Church-> Damn, Bourdain died.
14:22 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: beef
14:22 < Nightcinder> suicide, yeah
14:22 < katnip> he was 61
14:22 < Church-> So it seems. Haven't seen anything official yet
14:23 < JFDkthx> ugh
14:23 < katnip> why would ZTE come back?
14:23 < JFDkthx> i dont want to start working
14:23 < JFDkthx> corn266: i have my reinvestigation this afternoon.
14:23 < katnip> is that a trump thing:
14:24 < corn266> JFDkthx: fucking good luck dude, I hope your books are in order
14:24 < Nightcinder> Church-: ??
14:24 < asimon> Good morning friends
14:24 < Nightcinder> https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1005047895358365696
14:24 < Nightcinder> that's pretty official
14:24 < Church-> Kay. Didn't see that
14:25 < JFDkthx> corn266: they are. only difference now between the last one is i have a swedish gf.
14:25 < Nightcinder> "I knew a few who committed suicide as well. None believed in God. none. They ran out of hope. THEN they turned to drugs and or booze to fill the void."
14:25 < Nightcinder> ah twitter
14:25 < JFDkthx> but she hasnt overthrown any governments lately.
14:26 < Nightcinder> are you sure?
14:26 < katnip> i dont, but im not gonna do suicide
14:27 < JFDkthx> YOU WOULDNT DOWNLOAD A SUICIDE
14:27 < katnip> im older that he was
14:27 <+ihre> YOU WOULD IF YOU COULD
14:27 < Alternity> he talks about his struggle with depression in his books
14:28 < Alternity> sad to see him go, seems like the greatest job ever but we all struggle with our own demons
14:28 < katnip> cancerj twice
14:28 < katnip> the sadest one was robin williams
14:29 < FenJai> Is MS office baked into windows 10 ? As in cant be removed ?
14:29 < silentfury-s4pro> katnip: disagree, chester bennington from linkin park
14:29 < Alternity> it's almost liek we all have our own opinions
14:30 <+ihre> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c
14:30 < silentfury-s4pro> Robin Williams was diagnosed with Parkinsons, iirc.
14:30 < katnip> silentfury-s4pro: i dont even know what that was
14:30 < Alternity> there are plenty of theories that the drugs robin williams was on made it worse
14:31 <+ihre> Alternity: some opinions are just wrong
14:31 < Alternity> ihre: that's like, just your opinion man
14:31 < asimon> FenJai: No, you can remove it. Most installations come with a 30 day trial afaik but you can uninstall them like any other program
14:31 <+ihre> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wrong%20opinion :p
14:33 < FenJai> Is there some trick to it then asimon ? Im not seeing word, outlook, etc come up in my programs list, or in revo uninstallers.  Yet I can start outlook from the start menu
14:34 < asimon> FenJai: In "Apps & features" look for Microsoft Office instead of each individual program
14:34 < asimon> they're bundled together somehow
14:35 < asimon> But you can remove them all at once with that
14:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
14:38 < asimon> If you absolutely need to do it manually you can read this, but it looks like much more work than its worth
14:38 < asimon> https://support.office.com/en-ie/article/manually-uninstall-office-4e2904ea-25c8-4544-99ee-17696bb3027b?ui=en-US&rs=en-IE&ad=IE
14:38 < FenJai> Yeah definitely not coming up asimon. No mention of office or word, outlook, etc
14:39 < plop> how do you deal with outlook signatures? how do you deploy them?
14:39 < JFDkthx> ayy McDonaldsWiFi
14:39 < JFDkthx> plop: the user makes them
14:39 < plop> JFDkthx, and how is that working for you?
14:39 < JFDkthx> perfectly fine.
14:39 < asimon> FenJai: You don't see the bundled microsoft office program (like this https://imgur.com/a/9r2Whjf)?
14:39 <+NinjaStyle> CheckYourSix: yeah traveling
14:39 < plop> i have a template in a shared folder and users change name and position and paste to outlook. but...
14:39 <+NinjaStyle> I'm in GA
14:40 <+NinjaStyle> I go home today though
14:40 < asimon> plop: Coworker made a python script that pulls info from AD to automatically populate the signature and apply it to outlook
14:40 < plop> asimon, hmm sounds nice
14:40 < plop> there is some commercial software to do it also.
14:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx: hi
14:41 < FenJai> Nope. Nothing like that. The closest Ive got is microsoft edge, microsoft solitaire, mincraft...
14:41 < FenJai> I really hate windows 10
14:41 < asimon> plop: Its kind of nice, except not all of the information is filled in and outlook does some strange scaling magic that fucks up images if you have those in your sigs
14:41 < plop> i don't understand why there is no gpo to it or some other easy way to deploy them
14:41 < JFDkthx> plop i havent worked for any place that created signatures for you. if your users are having problems saving a sig in outlook i think you're going to have worse issues later on.
14:41 < plop> JFDkthx, that is true.
14:42 < silentfury-s4pro> plop: Exclaimer
14:42 < silentfury-s4pro> period.
14:42 < plop> silentfury-s4pro, checking
14:43 < asimon> plop: https://github.com/platypython/pySignature
14:44 < plop> asimon, great! i'll have a look
14:44 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: my neck is so jacked i cant tilit my head back
14:44 < JFDkthx> im like a pupper
14:44 < silentfury-s4pro> plop: Exclaimer is by far the best signature software on the market.
14:44 < plop> silentfury-s4pro, not that expensive. i expected more expensive
14:45 < silentfury-s4pro> yeah it all depends on how many users you have
14:45 < plop> yeah
14:45 < JFDkthx> /kick Code_Man65
14:45 < JFDkthx> get out
14:45 <@Code_Man65> You may commence rejoicing for the arrival of Friday
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> JFDkthx: lol cause of all the stress?
14:46 < plop> ro-friday
14:46 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: nah probably because of my pillow
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> the worst feeling on Friday is when your wife already has some stupid plans for you right after work
14:46 <+NinjaStyle> Is it Friday?
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> I home my VM stack dies today so I can stay at work lol
14:46 < asimon> http://isitfridayyet.net/
14:46 <+NinjaStyle> McDonaldsWiFi: I'll pray for you
14:47 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: i have to make a dish for my girlfriends potluck
14:47 < JFDkthx> THAT I DONT EVEN GET TO GO TO
14:47 < asimon> JFDkthx: You should host a potluck and make her cook for you
14:47 < asimon> and then be the only person there
14:47 < JFDkthx> asimon: bro. she burns rice
14:47 < JFDkthx> and has ruined 2 pots doing it
14:47  * darkscrypt prays for NinjaStyle 
14:47 < asimon> what
14:47 < asimon> get a rice cooker
14:47 < Nightcinder> swedish girl can't cook?
14:48 < JFDkthx> i love her to deth.
14:48 < Nightcinder> dump her
14:48 <+NinjaStyle> darkscrypt: thanks
14:48 < asimon> hit the lawyer and delete teh gym
14:48 < JFDkthx> Nightcinder: she too pretty to dump.
14:48 < JFDkthx> and im too ugly
14:48 <+NinjaStyle> I can confirm
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> NinjaStyle: ironically neough I have to sent though the end ceremony on bible school
14:48 < Nightcinder> well clearly she has other deficits to make it more even eh
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> i get to see how well the endoctrination worked this week
14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> asimon: ++
14:49 < JFDkthx> s/en/in
14:49 < JFDkthx> LAYER EIGHT
14:49 < JFDkthx> WHAT THE FUCK
14:49 < JFDkthx> do ur jerb
14:49 < plop> he has no voice
14:49 < JFDkthx> Code_Man65: pls2dn
14:49 <+NinjaStyle> layer-eight is a punk ass bitch
14:50 < JFDkthx> to you
14:50 < Nightcinder> rekt
14:50 < JFDkthx> rood
14:50 < JFDkthx> you think im just some normie irc user that you can just kick around
14:50 < JFDkthx> WELL NOT TODAY
14:51 < JFDkthx> I WONT STAND FOR IT
14:51 < JFDkthx> you guys are pretty cool. dont go to irc tomorrow
14:51 < plop> lol
14:51 < code_butt69> neener
14:51 < code_butt69> neener
14:51 < code_butt69> ur a weener
14:51 <+NinjaStyle> Code_Man65: be nice or I'll call the feds on you
14:52 <+NinjaStyle> Tell them about your homelab
14:52 < JFDkthx> a/me/mo
14:52 < JFDkthx> s/
14:52 < JFDkthx> same same
14:52 < Nightcinder> #youtried
14:52 <@Code_Man65> And failed
14:53 <+NinjaStyle> #tryharder
14:53 <+NinjaStyle> ®
14:54 < JFDkthx> when you try your best but you dont succeeeeeeeed
14:54 <+NinjaStyle> I should go inside and not creep in the parking lot
14:54 <+NinjaStyle> Have a good day, don't forget to read only
14:55 <+NinjaStyle> If I catch anyone working I'll flip the fuck out
14:55 < asimon> back to work
14:55 < asimon> It's friday not saturday
14:55 <+NinjaStyle> Back to getting paid to look at Reddit
14:55 <+NinjaStyle> You mean
14:56 < JFDkthx> ﴾ TAKE MY WAR GLAIVES ﴿
14:56 < JFDkthx> AW
14:56 < JFDkthx> those dont look like war glaives in here.
14:56 < JFDkthx> just fat spiders
14:56 < JFDkthx> :/
14:58 < Atro> they sorta look tbh
14:58 < Atro> at leaast in ircchat
14:58 < Atro> *irccloud
15:17 < ravioli> with sed how do i remove the dot before the tab in "something.net.\t12354321" ?
15:18 < ravioli> where the \t is a tab char
15:22 < alazare619> decided this morning going to actually do some maintenance on my work pc
15:23 < alazare619> its been neglected
15:23 < alazare619> empty downloads remove stuff i dont need anymore you know how it goes
15:23 < alazare619> maybe defrag it
15:23 < alazare619> <lmao>
15:24 < ravioli> Hunterkll: final count: 11,881,172
15:25 < ravioli> resolved
15:26 < JFDkthx> just walked through the office where all of the developers sit. it smells like wet socks old people and spum
15:27 < JFDkthx> i could have shortened that sentence to just say it smells like Code_Man65
15:27 < Doorcellar> Would settings up LAPS resolve an issue with trust relation and forgetting the local admin account details?
15:27 < Doorcellar> Trying to work out why most people set it up and the reason for it.
15:28 <@Code_Man65> Doorcellar:  Yes, as the last password would be recorded in AD
15:28 < abakedapplepie> you can always just reset local admin..
15:28 <@Code_Man65> And the reason people set it up is having the same LA password across multiple systems is a terribly stupid thing to do
15:29 < Doorcellar> One of my helpdesk guys got to the last stand where he could not use somthing like hirens to reset. So it got me thinking maybe I should look into LAPS
15:29 < alazare619> much registry cleaning
15:29 < alazare619> such issues
15:29 < alazare619> wow
15:30 < Doorcellar> Time to fire up the test lab then seen as its a Friday too :)
15:30 < JollyRgrs> Doorcellar: i wanted to move my last company to use LAPS
15:31 < JollyRgrs> the only drawback is if you ever are having to log in physically to the machine vs being able to RDP
15:31 < darkscrypt> I wanted to do the same thing..
15:31 < JollyRgrs> with RDP easy copy/paste, but for physical login, PITA
15:31 < abakedapplepie> what does laps do
15:31 < JollyRgrs> but that's a small price to pay and mostly RDP should work fine
15:31 < darkscrypt> laps looks cool
15:31 <+TuxedoJack> Doorcellar: how would that work, not being able to use Hiren's?
15:31 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: unique PW for local admin on devices, stored in AD
15:31 < darkscrypt> I wish RDP had a public key auth thing like ssh
15:32 < darkscrypt> to be honest.
15:32 < JollyRgrs> and it changes
15:32 <+TuxedoJack> TuxPE and NTPWEdit can unlock and reset ANY local account
15:32 < abakedapplepie> oh huh
15:32 < abakedapplepie> and you have to retrieve it every time you want to log in
15:32 < JollyRgrs> yup
15:32 < JollyRgrs> but how often do you need local admin?
15:32 < abakedapplepie> oh, not often
15:32 < JollyRgrs> only when the machine lost domain trust, right?
15:32 < Doorcellar> Could not boot from hirens CD or USB either using legacy or UEFI. I was looking over his shoulder so didnt spend much time on it myself but he ended up reimaging.
15:33 < abakedapplepie> pretty much just when standing up a server lol
15:33 < abakedapplepie> or when something breaks
15:33 < abakedapplepie> or at least in the case i had yesterday
15:33 < JollyRgrs> in enterprise, when it is really jacked up like that, there's no sense trying to make it "work again"... most likely, it'll still be broke, and we don't want half-ass computers out there with more issues later on
15:33 < abakedapplepie> i had to boot up an old server and didnt want to put it on the network
15:33 < JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: when standing up a server, it won't have a LAPS password yet
15:34 < abakedapplepie> right
15:34 <+TuxedoJack> Doorcellar: try TuxPE. I've seen Hiren's have issues with Secure Boot previously
15:34 <+TuxedoJack> I know, self-plug
15:34 < JollyRgrs> and once you domain join it, you can log in as yourself
15:34 < abakedapplepie> whats it stand for
15:34 < abakedapplepie> local admin password system? lol
15:34 <+TuxedoJack> RIght in one
15:34 < abakedapplepie> oh solution
15:34 < abakedapplepie> neat
15:35 <+TuxedoJack> AWWWW YISS. This is now the on-hold music
15:35 <+TuxedoJack> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tsf1LSiYPs
15:36 < abakedapplepie> my hold music: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4gla0x/extension_666_hell_we_are_sick_of_cold_sales/
15:38 < JFDkthx> TuxedoJack: cisco opus whatever?
15:38 <+TuxedoJack> JFDkthx: the Joy of Painting theme, 2 hour loop
15:38 < JollyRgrs> lol
15:38 < JollyRgrs> just in case someone expects to stay on that long for hold
15:38 <+TuxedoJack> Mind you, this doesn't apply to special calls like sales calls and vendors and telemarketers
15:38 <+TuxedoJack> They get OTHER things
15:38 <+TuxedoJack> This is just general
15:39 < JollyRgrs> my one pet peve about hold music
15:39 < JollyRgrs> STOP PEAKING THE LIMITS OF THE CODEC BEING USED!
15:39 <+TuxedoJack> A fuckin' men
15:39 < JollyRgrs> i don't mind your jazzy stuff or whatever music you want, just make it NOT DISTORTED!
15:40 < JFDkthx> isnt that more of an issue with copper
15:40 < JollyRgrs> TuxedoJack: i once found the hold music for my best buy store
15:40 < JFDkthx> tho
15:40 < JollyRgrs> it was a CASSETTE TAPE in a small closet in the front of the store
15:40 < ravioli> there's a steve jobs story about that
15:40 < abakedapplepie> no its usually a poorly encoded/compressed file coupled with a poor preamp and too high of a gain
15:41 < ravioli> er...sorry. tim cook. not steve jobs. JollyRgrs: http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/07/14/email-to-tim-cook-prompted-change-of-apples-on-hold-music-quality
15:41 < ravioli> lo and behold, they're the only company where the music doesn't clip.
15:41 < ravioli> but then again, they play coldplay a lot, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:42 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: nice
15:42 < JollyRgrs> haha
15:42 < JollyRgrs> coldplay...
15:42 < JollyRgrs> maybe they'll switch it out with some nickelback
15:42 < ravioli> i was hoping for savage garden tbh
15:43 < JollyRgrs> or the verve
15:43 < abakedapplepie> edwin mccain
15:43 < abakedapplepie> IIIIIIILL BEE
15:43 < JollyRgrs> it's a bittterrrr sweeeeeet
15:43 < abakedapplepie> YOUR CRYING SHOOOO OOOOLDERRRR
15:43 < JollyRgrs> syymmmphoooonnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
15:43 < abakedapplepie> i miss late 90s early 00s soft rock
15:44 < abakedapplepie> i dont even know what that genre is
15:44 < abakedapplepie> not quite soft rock
15:47 <+TuxedoJack> Steely fuckin' Dan
15:48 < int0x1C8> LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH
15:49 < plop> sup ravioli
15:49 < int0x1C8> if I could use infant annihilator as our hold music, I would in a heartbeat
15:50 < int0x1C8> or cattle decapitation
15:50 < int0x1C8> no, both
15:50 < darkscrypt> int0x1C8: haha. that's actually a song i like
15:51 < int0x1C8> wat
15:51 < darkscrypt> photograph
15:51 < int0x1C8> get yourself to the nearest lab, we have to study you
15:51 < darkscrypt> i like that song.
15:51 < ravioli> hi plop.
15:52 < int0x1C8> if you like that song, you'll like this
15:52 < int0x1C8> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGH-t7gPps
15:53 < int0x1C8> the lyrics go surprisingly well with After the Burial
15:53 < darkscrypt> never heard after the burial
15:54 < darkscrypt> but yeah, lyrics go over a lot of things. most songs these days are a repetition of the same chord progression
15:54 < int0x1C8> ATB is "djent" metal
15:54 < darkscrypt> int0x1C8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ   <--- take this for example
15:55 < int0x1C8> yep
15:55 < darkscrypt> this song gave me hope for learning to play guitar lol
15:55 < int0x1C8> been a drummer for 15 years, just starting to learn guitar
15:56 < darkscrypt> I can play a lot of things on acoustic... you know, just chord progressions.
15:57 < alazare619> well today i archived 4 years worth of emails
15:58 < alazare619> first time my inbox has been empty in years
15:59 < int0x1C8> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4E50EJkaS4
15:59 < int0x1C8> for lols
16:01 < McDonaldsWiFi> its r--r--r-- friday!
16:01 < Casteil> what have I done
16:01 < int0x1C8> sudo chmod 777 $TODAY
16:01 < Casteil> pitched the idea to my boss that we could benefit from bringing on a new frontend developer
16:02 < Casteil> "who do you have in mind?"
16:02 < int0x1C8> "a cat"
16:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> "Your mom, sir."
16:02 < JollyRgrs> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
16:02 < JollyRgrs> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
16:02 < JollyRgrs> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
16:02 < int0x1C8> que falling black guy meme
16:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> supuh hot fiyah
16:03 < int0x1C8> queue
16:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> but im not a rapper
16:03 < JollyRgrs> and i'm not a.... um...... a.... a woman
16:04 < plop> isn't asciiflow.com the cutest thing?
16:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> plop: i'd argue felda.io is cuter
16:05 < plop> lol
16:05 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: you would?
16:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> I guess?
16:06 < JollyRgrs> when is the last time you visited it?
16:06 < int0x1C8> felda forgot to renew the domain?
16:06 < JollyRgrs> site has gotten mighty ugly
16:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> like.. 1 yr ago tbh
16:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: umm er... thats the joke
16:06 < JollyRgrs> nah
16:06 < abakedapplepie> he let his hosting lapse
16:06 < JollyRgrs> not that long ago
16:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> is this a ploy
16:06 < felda> int0x1C8 nah it was cryptic1 who took down my website
16:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> to get me to go there
16:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> and get cancer?
16:06 < int0x1C8> 2018 Copyright. All Rights Reserved.
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16:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: have you told sideup66
16:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> he will be devastated
16:07 < int0x1C8> cryptic1 doxxed you?
16:07 < plop> get back to work
16:08 < plop> get back to work™
16:08 < int0x1C8> NO U
16:08 < felda> int0x1C8 no he use the evils of DNS to shutdown my website
16:09 < int0x1C8> aw sheit, the DNS wizard strikes again
16:09 < JollyRgrs> felda: but DNS can't shut you down if you share with us the IP. i thought you were a no-DNS believer... how can you run no DNS if you feel like cryptic1 can hold you down simply by poisoning you with DNS issues?
16:10 < JollyRgrs> felda: you are a fake, a fraud. i bet you use 8.8.8.8!
16:10 < felda> lmao 8.8.8.8 is for plebs
16:10 < felda> I run my own root server
16:10 < int0x1C8> I use 127.0.0.1 for my DNS
16:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> i dont use DNS
16:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> i memorize IPs
16:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> even IPv6
16:11 < abakedapplepie> i want one of those ipv6 numpads
16:11 < abakedapplepie> :P
16:12 < genr8___> https://www.ipv6buddy.com/
16:13 < ravioli> !dong
16:17 < voidstar> shipping is nearly half the price to the US
16:17 < ibttis> hello has the 0day exploit in syetemd-resolved been fixed?
16:19 <@killdash9> systemd _is_ the 0-day exploit
16:19 < int0x1C8> the d stands for dicks
16:19 < ibttis> meh
16:19 < ibttis> what else can I use for dns on a debian system?
16:19 < alazare619> trying to empty out all of my gmail
16:19 < alazare619> and google drive and everything
16:19 < alazare619> "clean start"
16:19 <+TuxedoJack> BIND.
16:20 < alazare619> shit takes FOREVER
16:20  * killdash9 sobs quietly in the corner
16:20 <+TuxedoJack> https://www.isc.org/downloads/bind/
16:20 < alazare619> like google i have 049762876207460298736902875436-0276-27628602984376902874369032848764ihedglsndfljyb;slkdn;lskfny emails
16:20 < alazare619> give me a 1 click
16:20 < alazare619> FFS
16:21 < ravioli> 1 click to do what
16:21 < ravioli> delete all your emails?
16:21 <+TuxedoJack> https://twitter.com/systemdsucks
16:21 < alazare619> delete everything google has of me
16:21 < ravioli> cause you can just select all and archive or delete.
16:21 < genr8___> i thought they did have that in the manage the data on me section
16:21 < ravioli> ah. good luck with that.
16:21 < alazare619> select all only selects the 100 on the page
16:21 < alazare619> even if you click the optional drop down that says all conversations
16:21 < alazare619> it doesnt truly function
16:22 < genr8___> like where you set it to save your browsing history you can probably delete all of your email
16:22 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: trying to get rid of the evidence that you and felda were having an afair before your wife finds out?
16:23 < genr8___> hm nope
16:23 < alazare619> JollyRgrs:  no just my email and google drive shit has 'sprawled'
16:23 < alazare619> further then i care to admit
16:23 < genr8___> https://puu.sh/ABoLE/69aca6c1cd.png
16:23 < genr8___> i thought that woulda had it, but nope
16:24 < alazare619> id like to just start over so i can take better control of the spam i receive and reset my gdrive
16:24 < alazare619> i got folders with just alpha numerics
16:24 < JollyRgrs> http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/software/1401626/how-to-delete-all-emails-from-gmail-the-smart-way
16:24 < JollyRgrs> took like 3 seconds to google that one... does that yellow bar still show up?
16:24 < alazare619> it does
16:24 < alazare619> but it doesnt function
16:24 < JollyRgrs> how so?
16:24 < alazare619> i even let it wait 10-15 minutes
16:24 < alazare619> refreshed page
16:25 < alazare619> all emails are still there
16:25 < ravioli> have you tried contacting your it person
16:25 < alazare619> i did but he said something about submitting a ticket
16:25 < alazare619> but idk what event he wants a ticket to?
16:25 < F34RInc> It means ask him when hes eating
16:25 < ravioli> i think he was asking you to the movies
16:25 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: how many emails do you have?
16:25 < genr8___> I figured it out fam
16:25 < alazare619> 46k
16:26 < alazare619> err
16:26 < alazare619> 460k
16:26 < ibttis> lol
16:26 < JollyRgrs> might take more than 10 min?
16:26 < genr8___> https://puu.sh/ABoPG/0b049b2f5f.png
16:26 < alazare619> idk
16:26 < genr8___> https://myaccount.google.com/preferences?utm_source=my-activity&utm_medium=home&utm_campaign=#deleteservices
16:26 < onenerdyguy> mornin
16:26 < alazare619> ive been deleting them 100 at a time and the number drops
16:26 < genr8___> Go there, go to "Delete products"
16:28 < ibttis> TuxedoJack: is unbound good?
16:28 < ibttis> for a single user not a network
16:29 < alazare619> that might work going to give that a shot
16:29 < alazare619> right now i mouse recorded the action to check 100 click delete wait 5 seconds repeat
16:30 < felda> I
16:30 < felda> am
16:30 < felda> rock
16:30 < felda> hard
16:30 < felda> right now
16:30 < felda> https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/8pfih6/just_cause_4_leaked_on_steam/e0azt5i/
16:30 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: btw... if you have that many emails... i suspect your email address is just tainted and you should really just get a new one
16:32 < alazare619> oh most def
16:32 < dragonfleas> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8pfhhs/a_project_has_become_my_job_and_im_not_getting/
16:32 < dragonfleas> does this guy not realize he's devops now?
16:32 < alazare619> like i've been pwnd more times then i care to admit
16:32 < alazare619> my email address is on no less then 10 haveibeenpwnd lists
16:33 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/L68WRWAQ/image.png
16:33 < alazare619> as of today 14 apparently
16:34 < felda> all bagels are required to have half an inch of cream cheese spread evenly on top
16:34 < ibttis> killdash9: is Unbound a good alternative?
16:34 < deww> most of the vendors here just put in a slab of creamcheese
16:36 < Hatter> guys, how can I make this day pass as quicky as possible
16:37 < Hatter> are there any amazing tools I don't know about that I can try
16:37 < corn266> Hey <person> we absolutely need you to order this part this morning first fucking thing. If you'd like to talk about logistics, I'm trying to call you. I've been trying to call you all morning. FFS pick up the fucking phone.
16:38 < corn266> I wish everyone had been aborted
16:38 < JollyRgrs> Hatter: there's a tool called youtube.com
16:38 < JollyRgrs> also imgur.com is another tool
16:38 < asimon> Hatter: Write a lorem ipsum generator
16:39 < corn266> Hatter: get an hardcore iron man runescape acc
16:39 < Hatter> come on guys I'm serious
16:39 < corn266> I don't think any of us were kidding
16:39 < JollyRgrs> Hatter: SO ARE WE
16:39 < asimon> Hatter: OWASP Zap is fun to play around with on a site you own
16:39 < Hatter> fine I'll go on youtube
16:40 < corn266> go on pornhub ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
16:40 < SOLxCrono> if i'm using ublock, there's no reason to use malwarebytes premium right?
16:40 < SOLxCrono> never really used this extension before. always used something like malwarebytes or spybot
16:41 < corn266> "If i'm determining whether or not to open mail, there's not reason why I could catch a cold, right?"
16:41 < Hatter> asimon: yeah that looks a little bit interesting, thanks
16:41 < asimon> Hatter: You're a little bit welcome
16:41 < corn266> SOLxCrono: use common sense
16:41 < SOLxCrono> my common sense tells me i don't need 2 active scanners, especially if one is free
16:42 < JollyRgrs> common sense says not to use spybot
16:42 < SOLxCrono> it's like ingrained in my brain though
16:42 < alazare619> anyone in here using bitlocker on windows 10?
16:42 < SOLxCrono> "spyware? spybot!"
16:42 < corn266> ublock isn't a scaner it's a blocker
16:42 < alazare619> do you prefer it to say diskcryptor or other solutions
16:43 <@Code_Man65> Why the fuck would you use anything else?
16:43 < corn266> I like my encrypted disks to say BALKSDFALSDNKAFSDFJBASDFKJASDIYOI145IO7Y98YANB7ATYW5
16:43 <@Code_Man65> Bitlocker and be done with it
16:43 < corn266> cryptsetup and be done with it
16:44 < SOLxCrono> corn266 doesn't the blocker replace the need for malwarebytes and spybot's active scanner though?
16:44 < SOLxCrono> what i mean is not an actual scan but the detection of malware as it comes in
16:44 <+A-KO> bitlocker ftw
16:45 <+A-KO> You would need to seriously justify to me why you would use anything other than bitlocker--and to me, that justification is basically 0.
16:45 < corn266> SOLxCrono: if you go to risky websites and enable risky things then yea you should have anti-etc, but if you're not doing those things you don't need any anti-etc at all
16:45 < corn266> A-KO: I want to delete my master key after saving it to a USB for later use
16:46 <+A-KO> and?
16:46 <+NinjaStyle> A-KO: my work uses something where you SSO to the drive encryption software and it logs you in to windows
16:46 < corn266> bitlocker doesn't allow that afaik
16:46 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle; McAfee does that. I'm not a huge fan
16:46 <+NinjaStyle> A-KO: so that is neat i guess
16:46 < corn266> ~~~ McAfee
16:46 <+NinjaStyle> yeah thats what it is
16:47 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: McAfee's FDE used to have serious issues, though I think they've fixed a lot of them lately. But 6.x was atrocious, 7.x had a lot of problems early on. Sometimes unrecoverable.
16:47 <@Code_Man65> Assuming Win10 just do Bitlocker (with or without MBAM) and Virtual SmartCards.
16:47 < alazare619> Code_Man65: YOU CANT DECRYPT BITLOCKER in windows
16:47 < alazare619> thats why...
16:47 < alazare619> its not a open standard
16:47 <@Code_Man65> I don't give a flying fuck about that
16:48 <+TuxedoJack> Symantec Enterprise Encryption isn't bad, honestly
16:48 <@Code_Man65> Seriously
16:48 < corn266> FOSS OR GTFO
16:48 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: i hate McAfee FDE, that's what we ar emoving off of
16:48 < alazare619> FOSS OR GTFO!
16:48 <@Code_Man65> I couldn't give a shit less, I care about how much impact it has on the system, how seamless it is, management burden, and ease of use for the end user.
16:48 <+NinjaStyle> ive never managed the mcafee fde stuff
16:48 <+NinjaStyle> but it works for me
16:49 <+NinjaStyle> like it doesnt inconvenience me as an end user
16:49 < alazare619> just looking for a one off for my work machine
16:49 < alazare619> i really need to make it FDE
16:49 < JollyRgrs> i've seen nothing besides bitlocker that can make it easy for anyone on the domain to log into a laptop that is encrypted
16:49 <@Code_Man65> So fscking do bitlocker
16:49 < JollyRgrs> with symantec and mcafee, if you don't add them in the console, etc, you can't just hand the laptop to someone else to use
16:49 < alazare619> well i cant find it :P
16:49 <@Code_Man65> Go to control panel and type bit
16:50 <+NinjaStyle> JollyRgrs: i know personally i dont want others to easily be able to log in to my FDE laptop
16:50 <+NinjaStyle> thats the point of FDE
16:50 < JollyRgrs> NinjaStyle: uh... well, it's to keep ppl outside of your org from logging in
16:50 <+NinjaStyle> like if just anyone can decrypt it, then whats the point
16:50 <@Code_Man65> To keep bad actors from getting in
16:50 < JollyRgrs> non-admins still can't see your profile
16:50 <+NinjaStyle> yeah but then your FDE is only as strong as your companies worst creds
16:51 < JollyRgrs> not really
16:51 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: yeah, I worked hard to make it not inconvenience folks when I managed it. But it just had weird compatibility issues with certain configurations that made it tough. And when it bombed, it bombed hard. A big issue was header placement. It would store the boot data in a specific spot on the disk and nowhere else, and corruption there would corrupt McAfee.
16:51 < JollyRgrs> if someone stole it, it would be only using cached creds
16:51 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: file systems learned to solve that issue years ago :P
16:51 < JollyRgrs> so it would be just you or whoever else had logged in previously
16:51 <+NinjaStyle> JollyRgrs: whats to stop me from going to your office and sitting outside
16:51 <@Code_Man65> And if you have your elevated account in the protected users group (like you should) your elevated account won't even be cached
16:51 <+A-KO> It does have a leg up over bitlocker in that bitlocker requires the user to enter a separate PIN/password on boot. But you can make it easy by just giving users 6-8 digit PINs rather than making them remember some 20 hcaracter bitlocker password.
16:52 < JollyRgrs> A-KO: wanna hear a funny story? our offshore team.... someone did a drop table on the ePO database
16:52 <+A-KO> LOL
16:52 <+A-KO> rekt
16:52 < JollyRgrs> guess what happened to all those 1000 or so laptops affected?
16:52 <@Code_Man65> Ouch
16:52 <@Code_Man65> Reimage town, population 1000
16:52 < alazare619> Code_Man65: thats not what i meant..phrased that wrong
16:52 < alazare619> this machine has tpm etc
16:52 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: funny you mention that. I had a coworker upgrade the FDE components in ePO out of order once, and when it installed the EEPC component first without first updating the EEAgent, it fucked the entire company's machines
16:52 <+A-KO> that was a fun day
16:52 < alazare619> but its not prompting me for a password with bitlocker encrypted
16:52 < JollyRgrs> lol
16:53 < alazare619> it just boots straight into windows i dont want that i want a damn pin/password
16:53 < alazare619> to decrypt it
16:53 < JollyRgrs> A-KO: had backups of the db i hope?
16:53 < JollyRgrs> alazare619: then set one
16:53 < JollyRgrs> you can do that
16:53 < alazare619> where the fuck do i set it
16:53 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: surprisingly, the only thing we needed ot do was rescue boot and install the EEAgent, and it fixed itself--but we had t ohand touch every machine.
16:53 < JollyRgrs> L2Admin
16:53 < asimon> alazare619: You can enable a password
16:53 < JollyRgrs> google.com
16:53 < alazare619> fuck google im at 400k emails atm
16:53 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: I'm one of the few people I know who is massively skilled at encryption recovery LOL....
16:54 <+A-KO> I break my work laptop all of the time because I'm dumb
16:54 < JollyRgrs> massively skilled, eh?
16:54 <+A-KO> "oh fuck I forgot to suspend bitlocker on this bios update"
16:54 <+A-KO> "welp, looks like my PC won't boot"
16:54 <+A-KO> "fuck, I enabled Kernel Mode Code Integrity and one of the security tools installed doesn't like it. woops"
16:55 < JollyRgrs> heh
16:55 <+A-KO> JollyRgrs: I solved a lot of McAfee recovery issues at my old job for all sorts of esoteric issues around it.
16:55 <+A-KO> they got better over the years, but things like "BIOS is in RAID mode and not AHCI mode" caused all sorts of random issues
16:55 < corn266> "I even got my friend's cat to call you and you still didn't answer" "what?" "answer your fucking phone"
16:57 <+NinjaStyle> anyone here still use mcafee, or is it dying off?
16:57 < silentfury-s4pro> ew mcafee.
16:57  * silentfury-s4pro throws holy water
16:58 < aName> Looking to buy a couple hundred older desktops. Something with an 'i' in the CPU name, 8GB+ RAM and an SSD. Looking at the optiplex 7010 - any horror stories?
16:58 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: I think bitlocker is slowly taking over the industry for FDE, but really most of the products will do much the same thing. I just like bitlocker's integration and freeness.
16:58 < genr8___> those small form factor systems are hell to service
16:59 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: I also feel like MS does the most development around algorithms and hardening of the boot/startup process. And it's not just about the algorithm but also potential pathways to abuse.
16:59 < genr8___> you might as well write the whole machine off if anything besides like the hard drive dies
16:59 <+NinjaStyle> well with defender getting to be good too
17:00 < silentfury-s4pro> aName: what's your use case?
17:00 < scwizard> man last night. I got out super late because of the database thing and I'm like "ok since I"m already downtown might as well have one beer"
17:01 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: I've always looked at it at a cost-benefit analysis. I've never looked for perfection, there's no such thing. It's like "If it costs me $20/user for the extra 1% protectoin, is that worth it over just using the built-in tools and dealing with a little bit of pain?" that's always my analysis. I pretty much start with things like Bitlocker and Defender as a baseline, and
17:01 <+A-KO> justify costs beyond that.
17:01 < scwizard> and then got into a long talk with this girl from Alaska
17:01 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: Way too many people put way too much stock in "pretty UI" still, which is sad.
17:01 < scwizard> and then after that I was like "well it's thursday night and proper late let me poke my head into this one other bar"
17:01 < scwizard> annnnnnnnnnnnnd i'm drunk
17:01 < scwizard> so now I get to work hungover whee
17:01 < scwizard> my head doesn't hurt so much but my tummy hates me
17:02 <+NinjaStyle> A-KO: like sophos
17:02 <+NinjaStyle> which is complete poop
17:03 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: I also feel like not enough security vendors really have their processes down. For example, tools like Carbon Black have near constant bugs in their logs. And you gotta wonder with the code quality how many security holes actually exist? If every release is "fixes bluescreen related to X", makes you wonder about the rest of the code quality, etc.
17:04 <+A-KO> MS is basically buying some of the best developers in the world, more or less.
17:04 <+NinjaStyle> CB is excellent though
17:04 < scwizard> this is about like desktop security right?
17:04 <+NinjaStyle> like one of the best security products
17:04 <+A-KO> meh, I think it's a garbage product :P but hey.
17:04 <+NinjaStyle> it detects me usually
17:05 < scwizard> desktop security is awkward because like, you're really trying to defend against stupid
17:05 <+A-KO> Sure, but it also likes to randomly bluescreen servers and chews up a ton of resources in the process
17:05 < scwizard> oh this is about sever security?
17:05 < genr8_> yea none of them are really good
17:05 <+A-KO> I have to spec servers well over their actual delivery because of CB
17:05 <+NinjaStyle> both
17:05 < scwizard> well like, if all your code and infra is perfect you don't need expensive security tools
17:05 <+NinjaStyle> scwizard: lol
17:05 <+A-KO> if I can get away with 4GB ram for a service, CB is like "nope you're gonna need 8, oh and add another core, too."
17:05 <+NinjaStyle> funny guy
17:05 <+NinjaStyle> A-KO: really?
17:06 <+A-KO> yep
17:06 < scwizard> am i wrong about that lol? i actually don't know tbh
17:06 <+A-KO> In my environment, 99% of my crashes and performance issues are related to either CB or Splunk. Some of that's config (on the splunk side)
17:06 < scwizard> (I do know that perfect code/infra doesn't exist)
17:06 <+NinjaStyle> therein lies the problem
17:07 <+A-KO> if I didn't have either of those tools loaded on those systems and used code integrity policies instead?
17:07 <+A-KO> shit would hum along swimmingly
17:07 <+A-KO> event forwarding + code integrity > CB+Splunk Agents
17:07 < scwizard> oh yeah that's getting into what i was saying about "if your infra was perfect"
17:08 <+A-KO> granted, CI has its own issues (the UI sucks to fix issues and get shit working, you have to maintain reference systems to inventory software hashes in a CI Policy or hope everything's digitally signed properly)
17:08 <+NinjaStyle> A-KO: if you build it, i will test
17:09 < genr8_> thats just software bloat.  and they want security to be a dark art, so the fancy UI hides away not only the technical stuff but even basic explanation of what its doing and why, and they want you to keep it ALL ON or all off. theres rarely itemized features
17:10 <+A-KO> that's not to say splunk itself isn't a bad tool (it isn't bad at all), but a lot of the tooling infrastructure especially for security is really bad
17:10 <+A-KO> for example, almost all vulnerability scanners STILL require NTLM
17:10 <+A-KO> I've never once had someone ask me for a keytab file for their security scanner
17:11 < genr8_> meaning
17:11 <+A-KO> Nessus, Nexpose, and Tripwire IP360 are all tools I've worked with in the industry
17:11 < Alternity> you defend against stupidity by locking down the desktops completely
17:11 < Alternity> only whitelisted applications are allowed to run, patching and reboots are all automatic
17:12 < genr8_> they probably check for NTLM cause thats the most easily exploited
17:12 < scwizard> why do i keep drinking alcohol
17:12 < scwizard> i'm gonn have so much trouble focusing today
17:12 <+A-KO> no genr8_, they *require* NTLM on to do their jobs
17:12 < Alternity> adbock on chrome by gpo
17:12 <+A-KO> not that they check for NTLM
17:12 <+A-KO> they literally cannot scan without it
17:12 <+NinjaStyle> for credentialed scanning genr8_
17:12 <+A-KO> ^
17:12 < genr8_> and its not v2 ?
17:12 <+NinjaStyle> it doesnt matter
17:12 <+A-KO> it is v2, or it can be
17:12 <+A-KO> but yeah
17:13 <+NinjaStyle> ntlm is shit regardless of what version
17:13  * NinjaStyle pulls out the whiteboard to explain
17:13 < genr8_> you can set it up to be signed and encrypted
17:13 <+NinjaStyle> ntlm?
17:13 <+NinjaStyle> or are you talknig about SMB?
17:14 < corn266> so which one of you fucks killed anthony bourdain
17:14 <+NinjaStyle> corn266:  cryptic1
17:14 <+A-KO> A big reason why they don't do credentialed scanning over Kerberos is because most scanners are IP-based, not hostname-based. Couple of ways to solve this. Agents, which is a great method (but with shit coding, who the fuck knows)--or kerberos, but that would require the scanners to keep tabs on systems based on DNS names. Server 2016 or maybe it's SAC can support Kerberos over IP now,
17:14 <+A-KO> but I haven't checked out how to set that all up yet.
17:14 < corn266> with dns in the server room
17:14 <+A-KO> I think you can register the IP in the SPN
17:14 <+A-KO> so HOST/name, and HOST/ip
17:15 <+A-KO> often times IT doesn't have a full inventory of what exists out there--so security teams just scan entire IP blocks looking for shit
17:15 < genr8_> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/security-policy-settings/network-security-lan-manager-authentication-level
17:15 <+NinjaStyle> having proper inventory is literally step one of security
17:15 <+A-KO> and that's why NTLM is basically required on those tools, unless you have a good CMDB process or a good process to transmit new box DNS names to security
17:16 <+NinjaStyle> genr8_: why
17:16 < genr8_> that whole table of contents on the left is good
17:16 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: that's really hard these days in the days of cloud, self-service, etc.
17:16 <+NinjaStyle> genr8_: i know about ntlm
17:16 <+A-KO> NinjaStyle: as in almost impossible to be 100% accurate by giving so many teams access to spin shit up when they want
17:17 <+NinjaStyle> well it should be added to the process
17:17 <+NinjaStyle> when stuff gets spun up and down it should be in inventory
17:17 <+A-KO> sometimes it can't be :P is what I'm saying. Some stuff is ephemeral. Look at containers, etc.
17:18 <+A-KO> hell, serverless is a thing I'm looking at these days
17:18 <+NinjaStyle> im just sayin
17:18 <+NinjaStyle> not saying it is easy
17:19 < genr8_> this was a good overview also https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/overview-of-threat-mitigations-in-windows-10
17:19 <+NinjaStyle> genr8_: are you making a point?
17:20 <+NinjaStyle> because i know about ntlm
17:20 < genr8_> no
17:20 < genr8_> not to you
17:20 <+NinjaStyle> oh
17:23 < genr8_> to you: "NTLMv2 can make use of SMB Signing."
17:23 <+NinjaStyle> thats smb
17:23 <+NinjaStyle> not ntlm
17:23 < genr8_> its the auth too
17:23 < misspwn> lasik surgery went well, i can see
17:23 <+NinjaStyle> it doent fix the fact that ntlm is broken
17:23 < misspwn> sore, but i can see
17:23 <@Code_Man65> NTLMv2 - Still as broken as NTLMv1
17:24 <+NinjaStyle> genr8_: all smb signing does is provides integrity to smb packets
17:24 <+NinjaStyle> it doesnt fix the way ntlm auth works
17:24 <+coderphive> Gonna need you guys to chill out
17:24  * NinjaStyle pulls out whiteboard
17:24 <+coderphive> you won't
17:24 < corn266> again with the whiteboard NinjaStyle
17:25 <+NinjaStyle> lol
17:25 < genr8_> it prevents man in the middle attacks
17:25 <+NinjaStyle> genr8_: i know what it fucking does
17:25 <+NinjaStyle> i do this for a living
17:25 < corn266> apparently not if you're pulling out the whiteboard to explain shit
17:25 <+coderphive> i'm tired af. Just drove three hours to Austin and drank like four redbulls starting at 430 am.
17:25 < genr8_> v2 helps for something and signing helps for something
17:25 < syere> Can someone here tell me the keyword I need to google if I want to test out a GPO plan on just a single server?
17:26 <+coderphive> syere isolation?
17:26 <+coderphive> idk
17:26 < JFDkthx> fack
17:26 < syere> im a linux guy in a all windows environment. Struggling here :-/
17:26 < JFDkthx> syere: why not just create a new ou just for that server
17:26 < JFDkthx> or just for gpo testing
17:26 <+NinjaStyle> genr8_: when you do ntlm auth, it does a handshake where the server sends a challenge, and the client sends their ntlm hash salted with the challenge
17:26 < fr0ddy> same here syere
17:26 <+NinjaStyle> this happens over the wire unencrypted
17:27 < syere> JFDkthx: is that a copy and paste a gpo thing, modify it, then assign it to one server kinda thing?
17:27 <+NinjaStyle> a mitm attacker can capture the challenge, and the NetNTLMv2 hash
17:28 <+NinjaStyle> yes smb message signing prevents things like ntlm relay, but it doesnt stop the hash from being sent
17:28 < syere> fr0ddy: out of curiosity, do you find the biggest challenge to be that none of your co-workers are as good with windows as you are with linux?
17:28 < genr8_> ok
17:28 < fr0ddy> none of the co-workers are as good as I am with Windows -_-
17:29 < syere> ouch
17:29 < fr0ddy> hahaha
17:30 < genr8_> can you then just pass that same hash and do the equivalent of a replay attack or some such ?
17:30 <+NinjaStyle> no because the challenge is random
17:30 < JFDkthx> syere: that would be create a new test ou, throw the server in that ou and apply the policy to that ou.
17:30 <+NinjaStyle> it can be cracked though
17:30 < fr0ddy> Biggest difficulty is to use a virtualized linux kernel from hyper v to run docker, then not being able to run linux vms on virtualbox
17:31 <+NinjaStyle> genr8_: with no smb signing, you can do a relay which is effectively that
17:31 < JFDkthx> syere: thats how i would do it, and im a certified unicks badmin
17:31 < syere> appreciate the advice!
17:32 < corn266> NinjaStyle: https://imgur.com/cGfxkAw
17:32 < JFDkthx> no problem. just dont blame me when it breaks
17:32 < syere> I think i'm going to toss it over the fence to the windows guys. if I can give a recommendation I think im going to make it their problem
17:32 <+giant_it_burrit> im enjoying havving a whiteboard
17:32 < JFDkthx> :thumbsup:
17:32 < JFDkthx> giant_it_burrit: you like displaying all the dicks you draw to your coworkers
17:33 < JFDkthx> thats a fireable offense you know
17:33 < corn266> giant_it_burrit: the above link also applies to you then
17:33 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: i wish i could
17:33 <+giant_it_burrit> thats my drag name, dixie normous
17:33 <+NinjaStyle> its easier to draw how this works
17:33 < JFDkthx> its funny, you dress in drag because it's something you're not. and you named yourself dixie normus becuase it's something you dont have
17:34 < dragonfleas> does coffee ever make you guys a little light headed
17:34 < JFDkthx> #rekt
17:34 < corn266> JFDkthx: is that your morning mirror moto?
17:34 < dragonfleas> it's been making me light headed when i drink it on an empty stomach
17:34 < corn266> triple M if you will
17:34 <+giant_it_burrit> truth
17:34 < JFDkthx> dragonfleas: only if i havent ate in like 15 hours.
17:34 < dragonfleas> I haven't eaten since yesterday at like 6 pm
17:34 < JFDkthx> corn266: i dont even have a mirror outside of my bafroom
17:34 < dragonfleas> so i guess that would be about 15 hours or close to that
17:35 < JFDkthx> god knows i never go in there.
17:37 < dragonfleas> ahhh
17:37 < dragonfleas> it's because i'm overdosing on caffeine
17:37 < dragonfleas> i normally get a grande coffee with 3 shots of espresso
17:37 < dragonfleas> which is too much
17:37 < dragonfleas> starbucks be killing me
17:39 < abakedapplepie> thats a lot of caffeine
17:40 < aName> Get some ephedra in there
17:40 < aName> ffs
17:41 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: Call center agents
17:41 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: Truthfully, their desktops now are fine - but they're aging out - it costs more to replace them than to get something nicer
17:41 < silentfury-s4pro> what about vdi?
17:41 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: Not an option because of our monitoring integration
17:41 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: Sadly.
17:41 < silentfury-s4pro> even with zero clients and host cards?
17:42 < dragonfleas> I logged into a non freenode IRC channel and instantly got doxed
17:42 < dragonfleas> damn it DNS
17:42 < dragonfleas> i wish masking was for everyone
17:42 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: We mux the call audio and desktop video and our phone system is ANCIENT
17:42 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: It informs a lot of our options
17:42 < silentfury-s4pro> lol lemme guess you dont have a voip system
17:42 < silentfury-s4pro> some ancient nortel or avaya pbx
17:43 < aName> NEC
17:43 < silentfury-s4pro> lol
17:43 < aName> Yeah
17:43  * aName shrugs
17:43 < aName> It was going to be the better part of a million bucks to get to something modern
17:43 < aName> So it'll probably happen when this one dies lol
17:44 < silentfury-s4pro> how many agents?
17:44 < aName> Running on a shoestring is ... interesting.
17:44 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: We need 300 seats
17:44 < silentfury-s4pro> ew.
17:45 < silentfury-s4pro> running on a shoestring would have me running away very fast.
17:45 < corn266> anyone here work for lockheed martin? I need to contact y'all
17:45 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: Eh, the job pays alright and they treat me well
17:45 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: I just have to come up with... creative solutions sometimes.
17:48 < corn266> oh ffs "thank you for calling lockheed martin. our phones are down for maintenance. thanks."
17:50 < aName> lol
17:50 < aName> They got nuked.
17:50 < silentfury-s4pro> tweet them?
17:51 < corn266> wouldn't be surprised, none of our PoC are answering either
17:51 < corn266> "Hey @lockmart can you schedule me an appointment with your security office for a badge on @nextFriday"
17:52 < silentfury-s4pro> hey, dont have to be that specific, but you never know
17:52 < silentfury-s4pro> social media gets attention pretty quickly.
17:55 < corn266> also I'd need to create a twitter acc and that's just a pain
17:56 < syere> corn266: like a month ago they had core switches fail and brought down their entire phone system
17:56 < syere> wouldnt be surprised if it happened again
17:59 <+A-KO> bbl
18:00 < estranger> TGIF
18:01 < abakedapplepie> oof
18:01 < abakedapplepie> that sucks
18:01 < abakedapplepie> how does someone like lockheed let that happen
18:02 < syere> they don't invest in their IT like you think they do
18:02 < abakedapplepie> thats unfortunate
18:02 < genr8_> someone dropped the ball
18:02 < syere> a lot of legacy places don't
18:02 < abakedapplepie> also unfortunate that they are one of our largest defense contractors
18:02 < syere> they still fall under the thought process that IT is simply and only a cost department
18:02 < abakedapplepie> and owns a lot of sensitive information
18:02 < abakedapplepie> but they cant keep spare switchees around
18:03 < syere> I didn't get a lot of details. but it sounds like it was a comedy of errors. Like a switch died but the failover fucked itself and just brought everything down.
18:04 < syere> soooo, todays maintenance I would guess is their new phone system being installed. the entire US locations use one place for a pbx
18:04 < abakedapplepie> o.0
18:04 < abakedapplepie> wow
18:04 < syere> and that concludes my knowledge of the inner workings of IT in LH
18:09 < CoJaBo> Still no progress on the zfs bug, btw. so much for that being well-supported <_<
18:09 < genr8_> what went wrong with zfs
18:12 < alazare619> welp settled on veracrypt
18:12 < alazare619> its the only one i can truly trust
18:12 < alazare619> hopefully htey finally fixed the iwndows 10 update mechanic
18:15 <+TuxedoJack> sc config wuauserv start=disabled
18:15 <+TuxedoJack> There's how you fucking fix WU
18:22 < scwizard> this is really wierd
18:22 < scwizard> i could swear last week I could ctrl+c out of a docker run
18:22 < scwizard> but I can't anymore O_O
18:32 < abakedapplepie> really, microsoft? search for IIS on my IIS server
18:32 < abakedapplepie> no results
18:32 < abakedapplepie> fuck you
18:34 < JPT> So ... no IIS server then?
18:34 < DomLS3> why search for "iis" and not just type inetmgr
18:35 < corn266> yea but don't ya know it's easier to find microsoft edge(TM) now(TM)(R)(C)
18:37 < gnupluslinux> abakedapplepie i sat here recently wondering why i couldnt import ad. Turns out there was a specific version of rsat for 1803
18:37 < gnupluslinux> Obv in hindsight but was frsutrating
18:37 < abakedapplepie> yeah
18:37 < abakedapplepie> that shit was annoying
18:37 < dragonfleas> abakedapplepie, server 2016? because the new indexing is so fucked
18:37 < gnupluslinux> Also fuck users
18:38 < abakedapplepie> theres a specific version of rsat for every edition of windows
18:38 < gnupluslinux> Yep
18:38 < abakedapplepie> its retarded
18:38 < gnupluslinux> Just slipped my mind
18:38 < abakedapplepie> makes 0 sense
18:38 < dragonfleas> abakedapplepie, yeah and you can use newer versions of rsat for older versions of windows
18:38 < dragonfleas> so you always should use the newest version
18:38 < abakedapplepie> at the time, you HAD to use the right version
18:38 < abakedapplepie> not the newest version
18:38 < dragonfleas> hmmmm
18:38 < abakedapplepie> when i ran into that issue
18:38 < dragonfleas> interesting
18:38 < abakedapplepie> but that was windows 8.1
18:40 < dragonfleas> i hope these fallout 76 leaks aren't real
18:40 < dragonfleas> or else this game is going to be garbage
18:40 <+coderphive> It is garbage, my son
18:40 < Hatter> dragonfleas: url
18:41 < gnupluslinux> coderphive it is known
18:41 < dragonfleas> http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/418949035
18:41 < dragonfleas> NSFW so view over proxy
18:41 < dragonfleas> i mean pretty much all of 4chan is nsfw
18:41 <+coderphive> give me SFW version
18:41 < Hatter> wtf man better url
18:41 < gnupluslinux> All games are garbage until proven otherwise
18:41 < dragonfleas> ummm
18:41 < gnupluslinux> Sometimes not even then
18:41 < dragonfleas> there is no SFW version
18:41 <+coderphive> need u 2 not b bad
18:42 < dragonfleas> I don't see anything on this particular thread thats NSFW
18:42 < dragonfleas> just be cautious because it's 4chan
18:42 <+coderphive> I swear
18:42 <+coderphive> I'm in the middle of a conference
18:42 <+coderphive> I'm not risking this
18:42 <+coderphive> All I need is furry to flash across my screen
18:42 < dragonfleas> it's not furry lmao it's /v/ which is a "SFW" board
18:43 < dragonfleas> why are you trying to look at 76 leaks during a conference anyways?
18:43 < dragonfleas> back to work
18:43 < khelpw> gnupluslinux: play FTL
18:43 < dragonfleas> cryptic1 isn't online :(
18:43 < gnupluslinux> Anyone in aus hiring
18:43 < gnupluslinux> I want out
18:44 < dragonfleas> khelpw, that game is one of the most fun games i've ever played
18:44 < dragonfleas> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
18:44 < gnupluslinux> khelpw i dont play much nowadays tbh and its not looking to change
18:44 < corn266> >First quest is "Virginia is for Lovers"...
18:44 < corn266> >Second is "Scratch that"
18:44 < corn266> no but really this place fucking sucks
18:45 < khelpw> That's fine. I don't honestly play much vidja anymore either, and when I do it's usually just little indie shit
18:45 < khelpw> Give it a look though. I have 55 hours played on it. like 10 times more than anything else
18:45 < corn266> khelpw: you been playing that wizard of legend ?
18:45 < khelpw> Nope. Hollow Knight currently.
18:46 < Hatter> FTL is great
18:46 < khelpw> Prior to that, Far Cry 5 with my girlfriend, and before that the Kirby game for Switch with a bunch of friends (we made it a debilitating drinking game)
18:46 < corn266> what whoever sucked the most got to choose who drank it?
18:46 < gnupluslinux> Wizard is fun
18:46 < khelpw> Next is gonna be Into the Breach
18:47 < corn266> gnupluslinux: I gave up Wizard for PoE, and woooow
18:47 < gnupluslinux> corn266 those really only two i have installed currently
18:47 < gnupluslinux> Poe is... a lot to take in at first
18:47 < khelpw> dragonfleas: srsly tho - Spotify decided to randomly throw the main title theme at me in one of my weekly mixes having not played the game for like 6 months
18:48 < khelpw> now it's all I've been doing on lunch every day
18:48 < dragonfleas> khelpw, you ready for west virginia brother?
18:48 < khelpw> kinda dgaf
18:48 < dragonfleas> :'(
18:48 < khelpw> the world building aspects of FO4 were my least favorite part of my least favorite game in the series
18:48 < dragonfleas> Yeah I think the co-op will add a nice twist to FO76
18:49 < dragonfleas> I just don't understand why they skipped 71 games
18:49 < syere> it's bunker 76
18:50 < syere> one of the first bunkers to open
18:50 < dragonfleas> Yep
18:50 < dragonfleas> One of the control vaults
18:50 < syere> which I think is pretty cool of them
18:50 < dragonfleas> Where they didn't actually do any experimentation on subjects
18:50 < syere> so numbers do not matter in sequence
18:52 < dragonfleas> Yeah I know it was a joke, i bet you're fun at parties
18:53 < ravioli> rekt
18:54 < dragonfleas> none of that ravioli, you have no say in this
18:54 < echelon> hi, anyone here familiar with openlitespeed?
18:55 < dragonfleas> echelon, hi echelon
18:55 < dragonfleas> please repeat the same
18:57 < echelon> i'm basically trying to configure the equivalent of these directives on openlitespeed.. https://paste.ee/r/L01iU
18:58 < echelon> openlitespeed however requires an address for the socket, but i imagine that's only for an fcgi wrapper?
19:03 < JollyRgrs> my goodness
19:03 < JollyRgrs> i've not checked in a while...
19:03 < JollyRgrs> but the "3d" mode in google maps satellite view is still unbeleiveable
19:03 < JollyRgrs> with the bushiness of the trees, etc
19:03 < JollyRgrs> crazy
19:04 < corn266> sorry gnupluslinux I had to shit, but good god is PoE fun/brainless
19:07  * gnupluslinux looks at poe massive passive tree
19:08  * corn266 get's a rager
19:08 < gnupluslinux> Theres a lot of room for min maxing if youre into that stuff
19:08 < ravioli> JollyRgrs: https://earth.google.com/web/
19:08 < corn266> nah i just brainlessly hold mouse buttons and/or 'q'
19:08 < gnupluslinux> I run a totem marauder for shits and giggles if i wanna ne really brainless lol
19:08 < gnupluslinux> So easy
19:09 < corn266> i fucked up and went one handed maruader when 2h swords were the better option
19:09 < gnupluslinux> corn266 try running a build that does the three heralds or righteous rifht
19:09 < gnupluslinux> Literally activate then walk around lol
19:09 < gnupluslinux> Righteous fire
19:09 < corn266> you see that spin2win build?
19:09 < gnupluslinux> Ah yeah 6 link is op and expensive
19:10 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: but that means i have to use chrome instead of FF :P
19:10 < gnupluslinux> corn266 theres a few
19:10 < corn266> just w/e comes up on youtube when you search marauder build 3.2
19:11 < gnupluslinux> Look up righteous fire or a flicker strike build
19:11 < gnupluslinux> Most brainless/uninteractive builds you can do imo
19:11 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: i think google earth should keep the earth rotating even once you zoom in... it'd be very fun as you can't keep up with the rotational speed... lol
19:11 < gnupluslinux> Fun as hell tho
19:12 < gnupluslinux> Have you checked out the forums? Pretty decently maintained build lists
19:12 < corn266> do you care about deaths gnupluslinux ? I can't seem to see the downlside
19:12 < corn266> I'd have to go home to check what build I have bookmarked
19:13 < gnupluslinux> How do you mean? Deaths matter if youre doing hardcore/lab runs
19:14 < corn266> oh I'm doing normal shit, still in act 4 or so
19:14 < Hatter> PoE is not brainless
19:14 < Hatter> the skill tree is disgusting
19:14 < corn266> not really though
19:14 < gnupluslinux> Ah cool enjoy it and min max your next run
19:15 < corn266> I'll have to look up some guides, but will do
19:15 < gnupluslinux> I remember 3 acts and now there's 10
19:15 < corn266> damn
19:15 < corn266> I can't imagine forgetting Piety's first appearance
19:15 < corn266> that dungeon full of blood was something else
19:16 < gnupluslinux> Haha youre in for a treat then
19:16 < corn266> oh no
19:16 < gnupluslinux> Which one is act 4 again? Dominus?
19:17 < corn266> not sure, the last dungeon I ran was inside of some beast and now I'm climbing a mountain
19:17 < corn266> wait no i made it through the slave's den
19:18 < gnupluslinux> So act 5?
19:18 < corn266> I guess? It was around 6-7AM this morning
19:20 < corn266> I'll let you know when I start a new play through if you wanna duo / party
19:21 < gnupluslinux> Probably act 5 if you finished the mountain and den. Just dont make my mistake and hoard shit on you first char haha theres not much
19:21 < gnupluslinux> End game is pretty grindy so i tend to abandon them after a bit
19:22 < corn266> yea I haven't been hoarding much besides low level currency
19:22 < gnupluslinux> Sure i dont play much anymore tbh but i wouldnt close that door
19:22 < corn266> well if you're in to dumping late term things lemme intro you to my mom
19:22 < corn266> s/my mom/civ 6
19:22 < gnupluslinux> Currency is fine. I started off hoarding just shitloads of rares but ended up vending most of em lol
19:23 < gnupluslinux> Rimshot.webm
19:23 < corn266> oh ffs y'all dumbasses already got layer-eight banned again?
19:23 < gnupluslinux> I cant play civ. Too dangerous
19:23 < corn266> RIP non-ghandi players
19:24 < gnupluslinux> Only series where ive genuinely was unaware i was up the entire night after seeing the sunrisw outside my window but thinking i just had dinner
19:24 < vinrock> the menu/sign above the counter at this chinese takeout place says "general toe's chicken"
19:25 < vinrock> instead of fixing it they put like a piece of masking tape over you can read right thru
19:25 < corn266> The newer version comes with a clock in the top right area so you know it's morning before the sun breaks through the window
19:25 < gnupluslinux> Its not legit if the person taking your order isnt also doing their homework vinrock
19:25 < vinrock> i think they're triads at this place
19:25 < vinrock> very angry seeming and all tatted up
19:25 < gnupluslinux> corn266 yyyyeeeaaahhhh i totally ignofed that on my last run lol
19:26 < gnupluslinux> I walk into asian places with the assumption is all a front for gang money
19:29 < ThatOneRoadie> Friday sucks
19:29 < ThatOneRoadie> entertain me
19:29 < ThatOneRoadie> gnupluslinux, there's a little family italian food place near one of my facilities that I swear to God is a mob front
19:30 < ThatOneRoadie> It's cash or personal check only, no cards, no ATM inside, and there's always a couple of big guys somewhere in there near the kitchen door with untouched food in front of them
19:31 < gnupluslinux> Dont cause no trouble, order your food, pay your meal, get in, get out
19:32 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
19:32 < ThatOneRoadie> bonus points and good looks from the big guys if you compliment the kitchen on your way in/out
19:38 < corn266>  bring em some fancy cigars
19:40 < vinrock> i always assume cash only dining is a money washing front
19:40 < vinrock> this chinese place does take cards but unlike any other place in jersey, they dont have a $10 min charge
19:40 < vinrock> so i guess uh
19:40 < vinrock> theyre disposing bodies i guess
19:40 < vinrock> *chicken on a stick
19:41 < corn266> omg these potato chips smells like burnt rubber
19:44 < corn266> so any reason why `gwmi -class win32_diskdrive | select SerialNumber` gives me numbers different from what's printed on the drive?
19:49 <@Code_Man65> Because wmi is actually querying the drive itself
19:50 < corn266> then what's the point of having the S/N on the exterior of the drive
19:50 < komugi> physical inventory?
19:50 < corn266> just use wmi?
19:50 < Heresiarch> corn266: what if you can't query the drive?
19:50 <@Code_Man65> Could have been a printing foul up
19:50 <@Code_Man65> It happens
19:51 < corn266> it's all 3 of the drives, but I get Heresiarch's point
19:51 < komugi> people in warehouse may not want to hook it up to query?
19:52 < ThatOneRoadie> FP2 for the Canadian Grand Prix starts in 10 mins
19:52 < ThatOneRoadie> for those who care
19:52 < Heresiarch> relying solely on disk-hosted info to get serial information would be almost as bad as having a webservice for configuring one's webserver.
19:52 < genr8_> they have that. its called cpanel
19:52 < Heresiarch> ...
19:53 < corn266> you don't use a web service that creates your TLS private key for you?
19:53 < ThatOneRoadie> yup
19:53 < ThatOneRoadie> that's totally a thing
19:53 < ThatOneRoadie> and in fairly wide prod use
19:53 < ThatOneRoadie> wasn't it an old cpanel with a security hole in use in like, Austria or something, that was the entry point for the equifax breach?
19:53 < corn266> ThatOneRoadie: is the grand prix on youtube?
19:54 < ThatOneRoadie> There are ace streams (questionably legal) and if you're in the US and get ESPNU it's free
19:54 < corn266> neh, at work
19:55 < ThatOneRoadie> yeah, I just have a pc on the guest wifi watching it :P
19:56 < corn266> oh ffs the one hdmi2displayport adapter I try is broken and won't release
19:58 < komugi> so q for people in here
19:58 < komugi> actually, nevermind
19:58 < komugi> lol
19:58 < Heresiarch> komugi: 42
20:00 < corn266> :thinking:    https://imgur.com/OMrD0vU
20:02 < technonerd> Unknown hard error
20:02 < technonerd> Uh thanks windows?
20:04 < corn266> "Windows encountered an error displaying this error"
20:04 < int0x1C8> Would you like to submit an error report?
20:05 < corn266> "View error report" "???????????"
20:05 < technonerd> It's stuck on preparing windows 1703 to 1803 upgrade went well
20:05 < int0x1C8> Error report: "HOW DID THIS GET HERE I AM NOT GOOD WITH COMPUTER"
20:05 < corn266> IT JUST SAYS ID10T ERROR
20:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehuehue
20:07 < m4221> Hello failures
20:07 < m4221> Hi Team:  I need two monitors for all 20 of my staff
20:08 < m4221> by cob today
20:08 < technonerd> English is hard
20:08 < technonerd> Send 2 close ticket
20:08 < m4221> We actually have a suggestion box at work
20:08 < gnupluslinux> Corn on the cob?
20:09 < corn266> howdy
20:09 < m4221> Someone put having a 2nd monitor as a suggestion
20:09 < corn266> oh okay bye
20:09 < gnupluslinux> My users get a 2nd monitor and arms
20:10 < corn266> I'm gonna suggest we give our users as many monitors as they have arms
20:10 < gnupluslinux> I hate it cause we'll get shit like my monitors arent right!
20:10 < poquito> nothing like a change causing a outage to make fridays interesting
20:11 < gnupluslinux> Someone doesnt belive in read only fridays etc etc
20:11 < poquito> technically a thurs afternoon change but not detected until today
20:12 < poquito> sweet
20:12 < corn266> nice
20:16 < komugi> I actually quite like VS Code
20:16 < komugi> I'm such a MS whore
20:17 < scwizard> fuck my concentration is shot
20:17 < scwizard> why did i drink
20:17 < scwizard> i sometimes think i should just quit alcohol and maybe porn and just be full straight edge lol
20:17 < Heresiarch> scwizard: how'd your migration go?
20:18 < aName> komugi: Intellisense is good stuff.
20:18 < komugi> it totally is
20:18 < scwizard> Heresiarch: unexpectedly well. It turns out you can just change the VPC of an RDS instance and it's only down for a little bit
20:18 < komugi> I was on sublime text for a while
20:18 < scwizard> i thoughti t would be down for 2 hours but it turns out it didn't copy data just changed networking
20:18 < corn266> scwizard: I'm in the same boat
20:18 < komugi> couldn't deal
20:18 < Heresiarch> scwizard: interesting. TIL.
20:18 < aName> scwizard: So long as you're not one of those obnoxious straightedge kids.
20:18 < scwizard> Heresiarch: and I was expecting things to not fully come back up ya know
20:19 < aName> scwizard: Fucking hated them even before I started using
20:19 < scwizard> but everything came back up smooth as butter
20:19 < corn266> aName: let's not do drugs and worship the lord(TM)
20:19 < Heresiarch> scwizard: if all they were changing was networking, that makes sense. The DB itself has relatively little to do with the underlying OS (as far as networking goes).
20:19 < scwizard> hey nothing's wrong with not doing drugs and going to church
20:20 < scwizard> Heresiarch: well it's so hard to tell how AWS implements a thing basically
20:20 < corn266> but you don't gotta make a point about it
20:20 < scwizard> so i was really just guessing
20:20 < scwizard> so yeah now we have a multi AZ rds instance in a VPC
20:20 < scwizard> and i just was able to get a thingy running on fargate that connects to it
20:20 < scwizard> so good day
20:21 < alazare619> How can I enable smb1 on Windows 10
20:21 < alazare619> Need it and grabbed newest win10 iso apparently it's not on it by default
20:22 < scwizard> alazare619: i'm assuming you know how to into google and you've already read this? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4034314/smbv1-is-not-installed-by-default-in-windows
20:22 < corn266> Probably in the windows feature
20:22 < scwizard> if not then shame shame shame
20:23 < scwizard> alazare619: basically my impression is that you might actually be SOL because it's been depreciated forever
20:24 < scwizard> nm it totally says how to enable it
20:24 < scwizard> you just can't google lel
20:24 < komugi> alazare619 - it is lin network share settings
20:24 < corn266> guys how can i default to ssl1.0
20:26 <+coderphive> gnupluslinux aus as in Austin?
20:27 <+coderphive> or australia
20:27 < gnupluslinux> As in straya
20:28 <+coderphive> dumb
20:28 <+coderphive> Go work for Gremlin
20:28 <+coderphive> they've got some Ausy's
20:30 < corn266> coderphive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS1XZlEEplY
20:34 < JFDkthx> later
20:34 < JFDkthx> turds
20:34 < JFDkthx> i mean, nerds
20:34  * aName farts in your general direction
20:35 < JFDkthx> rood
20:35 < gnupluslinux> It lives
20:35 < corn266> your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elder berries
20:36 < corn266> Remember y'all, it's okay to fail https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/8pks1u/suicide_prevention_megathread/
20:36 < aName> Which is supposed to say like 'Your dad is a drunk, and a cheap one at that!'  because I guess elderberry wine was super cheap
20:37 < aName> But uh
20:37 < aName> Have you had elderberry wine? It's delicious.
20:37 < corn266> wait really? I though it was about old man balls
20:38 < corn266> what about the mother part?
20:38 <+coderphive> MOTHER
20:40 < corn266> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/2czavv/eli5_what_does_the_insult_your_mother_was_a/cjkj56m/?st=ji6bfgvo&sh=87bc54b7
20:41 <+coderphive> what an obtuse insult
20:41 <+coderphive> at least insult me in English
20:41 < Heresiarch> coderphive: true, but people thought Danzig was pretty cool at the time.
20:41 < corn266> ur bad and shud fel bad
20:42 <+coderphive> true
20:42 <+coderphive> also, unpopular opinion, people also used to like k0rn
20:42 <+coderphive> so there
20:43 < gnupluslinux> Fucking windows
20:43 < aName> coderphive: Bunch of freaks on leashes, if you ask me.
20:43 < gnupluslinux> Using ` as the escape
20:43 <+coderphive> aName i c wat u did therr
20:44 < aName> gnupluslinux: No?
20:44 < gnupluslinux> What do you even call that char
20:44 <+coderphive> tick
20:44 < aName> backtick
20:44 < gnupluslinux> I thought ' was tick
20:44 <+coderphive> yeah, that
20:44 < gnupluslinux> So " is ticktick
20:45 < corn266> gnupluslinux: I'm still trying to figure out how to `cut -d'\n' -f1` because -d only takes 1 char
20:45 < DomLS3> what does everyone use for sharing large files with external users
20:45 < gnupluslinux> Wat?
20:45 < corn266> scp
20:45 < vinrock> dropbox
20:45 < gnupluslinux> Onedrive
20:46 < DomLS3> Anything that can replicate from a file server to the cloud automatically without having to manually copy it?
20:46 < corn266> how are you gnupluslinux but you don't know how to escape a newline in the cut command
20:46 < corn266> install dropbox and set the directory to sync as '/'
20:47 < gnupluslinux> I just use sed and awk for evertthinf
20:47 < vinrock> man i totally regret getting that swtt n sour chicken
20:49 < pupp3r> LPT: put antacids in all your bags. easy stomach pain relief on the go.
20:50 < vinrock> ive been meaning to get one of those gigantic bottles of tums i just keep forgetting
20:51 < alazare619> 6 months later and the creator of downthemall still hasnt released a beta
20:52 < varesa> what is wrong with users? ;__;
20:52 < varesa> From: helpdesk@company.com - Subject: Your password will expire in 6 days - Body: [...] If you are unable to change your password, please contact helpdesk@company.com
20:53 < varesa> What does this user do? Sends an email to jira-admin@company.com which is an alias to a completely different unit
20:53 < komugi> varesa - we're professional password changers.
20:54 < varesa> and no, nowhere in the email is the jira-admin list mentioned
20:55 < varesa> search jira for this user's name - found out that this user requested a new password 3 months ago (it was expiring, asking to contact helpdesk)
20:56 < varesa> back then the user Fwd'd the email to yet again some other party, which forwarded it to helpdesk
20:58 < aName> Figures. Get some refurb laptops in to issue to new employees
20:58 < aName> Me and my coworker are setting them up
20:58 < aName> His locks up hard
20:59 < aName> 'Well that's annoying - I guess this one will be for the higher priority user'
20:59 < aName> ... mine locks up too
20:59 < aName> well, fark
20:59 < aName> At least it's inside the 'no questions asked' return period
21:02 < varesa> were they preinstalled or did you image them yourselves?
21:03 < aName> Preinstalled
21:03 < aName> Preinstalled
21:03 < varesa> can't blame you have the wrong drivers either :)
21:03 < aName> It's disappointing but the timeline these people had requested was unrealistic to begin with.
21:04 < aName> I don't know why people think we can do next day turnaround on laptops when they won't give us the budget for hotspares.
21:04 < corn266> Woo 4 matches on tinder with this as my profile pic https://pics.me.me/you-have-been-visited-by-whatever-the-heck-this-is-22332091.png
21:10 < aName> lol
21:11 < aName> Tinder is such garbage
21:11 < komugi> why are you using tinder
21:11 < aName> I don't. I did, but then I realized it was garbage
21:11 < aName> But at the time, I was trying to get laid.
21:12 < corn266> so how do you go about getting laid now? actually meeting peopel?
21:13 < khelpw> I learned everything I need to know about Tinder at a party where a girl asked me for my Tinder profile and I pointed at my GF and said "That's my girlfriend over there" and the girl replied "Yeah, and my boyfriends in the kitchen, you got a profile?"
21:13 < aName> That's one strategy. OKCupid has a 'looking for: hookups' option that has done me well
21:13 < aName> Downside - a lot of people create their profiles and check ALL the 'looking for' boxes and get real offended when you act like their profile says they want hookups
21:14 < aName> khelpw: lol I remember this chick I used to hook up with - I approach her at the bus stop, ask her out "Oh, I have a boyfriend." "Ah, ok. Well, have a nice day then" "I didn't say we couldn't have sex"
21:14 < corn266> dayum
21:14 < alazare619> so work pc borked itself during bitlocker encrypting
21:14 < alazare619> GG
21:14 < aName> Hey, I wasn't looking for a wife, and I'm not the one who's cheating lol
21:14 < alazare619> rebooted and went into boot loop
21:14 < alazare619> back to veracrypt for me
21:14 < aName> Guy was a loser anyway, I don't feel bad about it
21:15 < corn266> sounds like you forgot to disable bitlocker when installing bitlocker
21:15 < aName> alazare619: f
21:15 < komugi> people are sketchy af
21:15 < vinrock> one of my favorite news clips is this blonde reporter walking over to some random cali dudes during some live report
21:15 < vinrock> before she can even finish introducing herself the guy is like "Hey wow you're super pretty want to go out sometime?"
21:15 < alazare619> "damn shawty
21:15 < alazare619> "yawa fuck"
21:16 < alazare619> "lem'e stick muh dick in ya"
21:16 < aName> komugi: lol yeah - I hit on this girl on OKCupid the other night.... "We actually already hooked up once before. You were cold and I left before you woke up.... but it was the best dick I've ever had so I'd do it again if you want."
21:16 < vinrock> hah
21:16 < aName> And now I'm like 'Uhhhh am I going to get bobbit'd?'
21:16 < corn266> wtf aName are you a corpse?
21:16 < komugi> cold?
21:16 < vinrock> if this shit existed when i was younger i'd straight up have aids by now
21:17 < aName> komugi: Like, aloof?
21:17 < komugi> ah
21:17 < komugi> I've had a couple of hook ups
21:17 < alazare619> vinrock: facebook gave me the clap once
21:17 < komugi> not really my thing
21:17 < vinrock> dont doubt it
21:17 < komugi> though a girl actually thanked me a few times
21:17 < komugi> it was.. uhh
21:17 < komugi> weird
21:17 < aName> komugi: Truth be told - I was aloof because I'd found her pictures misleading and I wasn't all that attracted to her - but she drove an hour to get laid so I was going to perform lol
21:18 < alazare619> side note when the dr says dont clench your but when they give you a shot in the cheek...dont
21:18 < alazare619> holly fuck
21:18 < komugi> ah, lmao
21:18 < gnupluslinux> What's in the booooooooox
21:18 < vinrock> wait until doc hits you with the UFIA
21:18 < alazare619> ufia?
21:18 < vinrock> unsolicited finger in the anus
21:18 < alazare619> ehh i'm not worried about that
21:18 < alazare619> i've had some real big logs
21:18 < vinrock> it scarred me for life yo
21:19 < alazare619> that turd cutter is probably lose even compared to gay guys
21:19 < vinrock> hah
21:19 < gnupluslinux> What
21:19 < aName> vinrock: I had difficulty voiding my bladder a couple years back. Go to the doc. Doc is like 'Well, we have to do a prostate exam...'
21:19 < aName> He looked SO uncomfortable about it.
21:19 < aName> "Now this isn't my favorite exam...."
21:19 < vinrock> dude i didnt get no warning you're lucky
21:20 < vinrock> i got a uti from a stripper when i was like 23
21:20 < komugi> I feel like my dating life has been weird
21:20 < aName> But I hadn't pissed right in two weeks, I was like 'Whatever, you want to fuck me too? Cool."
21:20 < vinrock> i had no idea what i was getting into at the urologist office
21:20 < Jekotia> Any chance Dell would honor warranty on a laptop that some idiot decided to try and fix by supergluing a piece of plastic inside? I'm hesitant to contact them because of the notes that would likely end up being added to my account...
21:20 < komugi> I used to never date anyone younger or my age
21:20 < komugi> I generally always dated older
21:20 < komugi> now that I hit 30
21:20 < aName> Jekotia: Eh, just don't mention it
21:20 < vinrock> komgui same here
21:20 < komugi> most of the girls I meet now are like 20s
21:20 < gnupluslinux> Jekotia work or personal
21:20 < aName> Jekotia: "Oh that's weird, maybe someone at one of the service centers?"
21:20 < komugi> and some are 16-18
21:20 < vinrock> my gf was 22 when i was 18
21:20 < komugi> which is like.. wtf
21:20 < Jekotia> gnupluslinux: Work
21:20 < gnupluslinux> Mfw komugi is 60
21:21 < komugi> lol
21:21 < gnupluslinux> Mfw komugi is in steel panther
21:21 < Heresiarch> Jekotia: might as well try. If they fail it, bring up a purchase of another one and the reasoning why.
21:21 < aName> komugi: I mean... so long as they're legal and don't talk, who cares how young they are?
21:21 < aName> komugi: I mean, post-puberty, obv
21:21 < komugi> i'd take that
21:21 < vinrock> i dont mind younger girls i just dont like when they too early 20s and like, overact in bed
21:21 < ny0x> I enable a MFA group in AWS and add all users to it. I get a call from devs "PRODUCTION IS DOWN FIX IT". Turns out they're using access keys tied to a console user for production.
21:21 < vinrock> all loud and obnoxious n shit
21:21 < komugi> aName - my cut off is around 21
21:21 < vinrock> im like look man this isnt an audition
21:21 < komugi> because if you can't drink
21:21 < komugi> what is there to do
21:21 < gnupluslinux> Jekotia id call it in anyway
21:21 < aName> komugi: Umm
21:21 < aName> komugi: Imma let you in on something
21:21 < komugi> well, I mean dating
21:22 < komugi> not hook ups
21:22 < aName> komugi: Underage women drink too
21:22 < komugi> yeah, no shit
21:22 < komugi> I mean at bars/restaurants/etc
21:22 < aName> komugi: Yeah I dunno - they never get carded with me
21:22 < komugi> lol I get carded
21:22 < aName> But I Haven't been carded for booze since I was like 22.
21:23 < gnupluslinux> Am asian. Ill get carded into my 50s probanly
21:23 < vinrock> hi5 asian supremacy
21:23 < komugi> ^
21:23 < aName> Actually, no - one place does - but only because their POS won't let them scan the bottle otherwise
21:23 < komugi> I've gotten my age range from anywhere from 16-30
21:23 < aName> gnupluslinux: Yeah but you turn 80 on your 50th birthday
21:23 < aName> gnupluslinux: So
21:23 < gnupluslinux> vinrock komugi yall in socal?
21:23 < vinrock> nah jersey
21:23 < komugi> nah, I'm in Cambridge
21:23 < komugi> ma
21:24 < gnupluslinux> aName if family lineage is anything to go by its gomma be a quick dowmhill around 70 or so haha
21:24 < komugi> though, that's probably why all the girls I meet are 20s
21:24 < komugi> lmao
21:24 < gnupluslinux> Mit?
21:24 < komugi> Cambridge is college town
21:24 < komugi> tufts, mit
21:24 < komugi> etc
21:24 < gnupluslinux> Sounded familiar
21:24 < komugi> Harvard
21:24 < aName> gnupluslinux: Yeah - the only family member to die in my lifetime died of complications of COPD
21:24 < vinrock> man my dream is to pick up a hot nerd girl that isnt all dunning kruger sjw
21:24 < vinrock> pretty much accepted itll never happen
21:25 < gnupluslinux> aName i meant lookswise lol
21:25 < aName> gnupluslinux: Which doesn't help me from a genetic standpoint other than 'don't chain smoke for sixty years'
21:25 < khelpw> Eh, they're out there. I've got a hot nerd gf. They're the best.
21:25 < khelpw> She's into video games, heavy metal, cars, and reptiles.
21:25 < gnupluslinux> vinrock step 1, dont look in college town
21:25 < komugi> yeah
21:25 < aName> khelpw: I'm looking for the unicorn - the hot nerd girlfriend who's into vivaria and BDSM (in the dominant role)
21:25 < vinrock> khelpw you might as well never play the lotto
21:25 < aName> khelpw: They don't exist, but hey
21:25 < khelpw> They do
21:25 < komugi> college towns are fun though
21:25 < aName> khelpw: Any one of those things would make her a rarity
21:26 < aName> khelpw: The combination is just unrealistic.
21:26 < khelpw> If you mean vivaria as a plural of vivariums, she's built 2, one for her hognose and one for the Rhacodactylus Auriculatus
21:26 < komugi> someone girl asked me to do belly button shots
21:26 < komugi> like like.. uhh
21:26 < komugi> no
21:26 < aName> khelpw: Yes. But is she also a femdom? =p
21:26 < aName> komugi: Offer to do pussy shots =p
21:26 < khelpw> Yeah, but only towards other girls for the most part
21:26 < vinrock> ok hunterkll
21:26 < khelpw> Also, she's Bi.
21:26 < vinrock> giggity
21:27 < khelpw> Just gotta look for em. Hard.
21:27 < aName> komugi: You gonna go smoke one for me?
21:27 < khelpw> few and far between, for sure. But they're out there.
21:27 < komugi> smoke?
21:27 < vinrock> trees
21:27 < komugi> I cannay
21:27 < corn266> vinrock: go hike in CO, there were loads of hot nerdy girls on the trail last weekend
21:27 < khelpw> ^^
21:27 < komugi> drug screen
21:27  * ThatOneRoadie runs SCCM Query for all CF-C2 or CF-SX Toughbooks in SCCM
21:27 < vinrock> dude id be so mad if i found one half way across the coutry
21:27 < ThatOneRoadie> >228 devices
21:27 < ThatOneRoadie> fuck
21:27 < silentfury-s4pro> aName: Femdom's are pretty rare.
21:28 < komugi> should I go find a job in CO then?
21:28 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: Yeah, I noticed. =/
21:28 < corn266> komugi: if you find one lemme know cause I'm lookin too
21:28 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: Can't help but to like what I like, though
21:28 < ThatOneRoadie> komugi, CO is terrible
21:28 < ThatOneRoadie> don't come here
21:28 < komugi> y?
21:28 < agent_white> Afternoon folks
21:28 < corn266> HE'S TRYING TO KEEP US OUT KOMUGI
21:29 < ThatOneRoadie> we have legal pot, low taxes, and great green areas, including awesome hiking and fantastic bbq
21:29 < silentfury-s4pro> aName: For sure, I share your frustration. Best to convert a vanilla
21:29 < aName> ThatOneRoadie: I just want to move to a state where I have the freedom to grow plants. lol
21:29 < ThatOneRoadie> it's terrible
21:29 < ThatOneRoadie> pls leave
21:29 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: Oh, I've tried.
21:29 < ThatOneRoadie> Oh btw
21:29 < komugi> yeah, but CO needs more diversity
21:29 < vinrock> i think we're about to get legal pot
21:29 < ThatOneRoadie> fun fact I just got from Toshiba
21:29 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: Got one coming over tonight. No experience, but hey
21:29 < vinrock> but ofc, wont be legal to grow it
21:29 < vinrock> THE MAN has to keep making money
21:29 < aName> vinrock: Eh... if it's sold in shops I'd just grow my own
21:29 < khelpw> What are the best hikes to do around Denver/Boulder? I'm visiting in September
21:29 < ThatOneRoadie> CF-C2 and CF-SX toughbooks have a minor issue with the charging behavior in the BIOS
21:29 < silentfury-s4pro> aName: best of luck my friend.
21:29 < aName> vinrock: No one is going to rat you out
21:29 < corn266> vinrock: call your governer and voice your concern
21:29 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: lol thanks
21:29 < khelpw> I know RMNP is a given, but any particular trails on it?
21:30 < ThatOneRoadie> that may kind of cause the battery to spontaneously and rapidly disassemble
21:30 <+TuxedoJack> Fan-fucking-tastic
21:30 < silentfury-s4pro> ThatOneRoadie: HAHAHA REALLY?
21:30 <+TuxedoJack> The hardware tech wiped a machine with Veriato on it and never reinstalled
21:30 < ThatOneRoadie> khelpw, go up to Nederland and hike the reservoir
21:30 < ThatOneRoadie> silentfury-s4pro, yep
21:30 <+TuxedoJack> And the person being keylogged got shitcanned and they're suing
21:30 < ThatOneRoadie> they just pushed a bios update that limits the battery to 80%
21:30 < khelpw> Link?
21:30 <+TuxedoJack> And now there are no fucking logs for the past 6 months
21:30 < ThatOneRoadie> https://na.panasonic.com/us/support/mandatory-safety-bulletin-cf-c2-cf-sx
21:30 < vinrock> womp womp
21:30 < komugi> though seriously though
21:30 < komugi> how is the market in CO?
21:30 < khelpw> Barker Meadow?
21:31 < silentfury-s4pro> ThatOneRoadie: i foresee a lawsuit
21:31 < corn266> dogs bark not meadows
21:31 < ThatOneRoadie> The housing market? sucks cocks
21:31 < agent_white> ThatOneRoadie: Oh yeah you're from CO too eh? Lovely fuckin' tropical heatwave going on... god I hate the heat.
21:31 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: A buddy keeps trying to get me to come to a munch... I'd rather go to a slosh lol
21:31 < ThatOneRoadie> because of amazon and other bay area companies moving in
21:31 < corn266> komugi: the housing prices skyrocketted after legalization
21:31 < aName> Well... yeah
21:31 < aName> "we have freedom here"
21:31 < ThatOneRoadie> I'm paying 365 for 2700 sq ft and getting it for a steal
21:31 < komugi> I mean job market though
21:31 < komugi> lol
21:31 < aName> "it's not free"
21:31 < vinrock> what
21:31 < ThatOneRoadie> Unemployment is record low here atm iirc
21:31 < JollyRgrs> aName: wah wah wah... how much humidity?
21:31 < ThatOneRoadie> the problem is finding a goddamn place to live
21:31 < aName> JollyRgrs: ?
21:32 < corn266> 85%
21:32 < komugi> mmm
21:32 < aName> JollyRgrs: I don't understand
21:32 < vinrock> you're paying $365/mo for a 2700sqft apartment?
21:32 < JollyRgrs> ugh. agent_white, not you aName
21:32 < ThatOneRoadie> no
21:32 < khelpw> Eh, looks like that Res is just basically a lake. Kinda meh
21:32 < JollyRgrs> sorry
21:32 < ThatOneRoadie> I'm paying 365k for a house
21:32 < ThatOneRoadie> lmao
21:32 < komugi> I guess I should put it in my short list then
21:32  * gnupluslinux sees complaints about housing and checks socal zillow
21:32 < komugi> thanks
21:32 < vinrock> hah
21:32 < vinrock> i was bout to say
21:32 < vinrock> hot diggity dayum
21:32 < corn266> ThatOneRoadie: did it at least come with office
21:32 < gnupluslinux> OPPRESSION OLYMPICS
21:32 < aName> My dad is buying a house in Jamaica
21:32 < ThatOneRoadie> "we recently identified a quality condition potentially affecting Panasonic Toughbook CFC2
21:32 < vinrock> what part
21:32 < ThatOneRoadie> series and CF-SX series involving laptop battery packs"
21:32 < ThatOneRoadie> boom
21:32 < aName> For an office for his pot farm lol
21:32 < ThatOneRoadie> Kingston!
21:32 < vinrock> boyee
21:32 < aName> ThatOneRoadie: Uh, Orange Hill, I think?
21:32 < khelpw> Any especially affordable areas around Denver/Boulder for housing that aren't horrible?
21:33 < ThatOneRoadie> also RIP the best joke in hockey historyh
21:33 < ThatOneRoadie> history*
21:33 < gnupluslinux> fucking houses start at 600k for a shitter which then gets bought in cash for 660k
21:33 < agent_white> JollyRgrs: Ok fair enough hahah. Dude, I can't stand high humidity areas... I lived in Iowa for a few years, fuck those summers.
21:33 < khelpw> Relatively*
21:33 < vinrock> khelpw: aurora/centennial
21:33 < ThatOneRoadie> "What do you get when you order an Alex Ovechkin in D.C.? Just a regular white russian with no cup"
21:33 < corn266> khelpw: I was talking to a lyft driver and he just bought a 285k house about 15 minutes outside of boulder
21:33 < ThatOneRoadie> khelpw, buying, aurora
21:33 < khelpw> Well I'm renting
21:33 < ThatOneRoadie> renting, depends on whether you have body armor
21:33 < vinrock> pff
21:33 < agent_white> Centennial/further south is good. Just follow the RTD lines south and as you go further housing gets a bit cheaper.
21:33 < vinrock> the "hood" in that area is nice af
21:34 <+TuxedoJack> khelpw: go live on east Colfax, you'll be fine
21:34 < ThatOneRoadie> Saudi aurora (north aurora) is pretty cheap, but you may be patching drywall twice a year
21:34 < ThatOneRoadie> because
21:34 < ThatOneRoadie> you know
21:34 < ThatOneRoadie> bullet holes.
21:34 < vinrock> i had some random dude with jheri curls driving a big purple cadillac on gold daytons just stop next to me and smoke me up
21:34 < khelpw> I'm not looking to catch bullets or to to jail for putting someone away
21:34 < ThatOneRoadie> Littleton is somewhat reasonable for rent at the moment
21:34 < khelpw> and it's not like I'm gonna be _broke_ but GF and I are just starting out
21:35 < corn266> open carry an AR-15 and problem solved
21:35 < agent_white> ThatOneRoadie: Hahah the old mayor of aurora (recently passed away) was on some 'flashback' NPR the other day... first thing he said was "Aurora is not as ghetto as most people say". If you have to say that explicitly... :P
21:35 < ThatOneRoadie> No open carry allowed in denver btw
21:35 < Hatter> hey guys, how can I output PRTG alerts to a police siren?
21:35 < ThatOneRoadie> just in case you move here
21:35 < vinrock> ofc you can
21:35 < corn266> denver specifically or all CO
21:35 < ThatOneRoadie> Denver specifically
21:35 < khelpw> Is CC available?
21:35 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
21:36 < khelpw> so fuck it then, idc
21:36 < ThatOneRoadie> only way to legally carry
21:36 < corn266> what about claymors // 2H swords
21:36 < ThatOneRoadie> 90 day wait on CC
21:36 < khelpw> I live not far from a moderately bad ghetto and you can't get CC here
21:36 < ThatOneRoadie> 90 day wait and a surprisingly comprehensive background investigation
21:36 < komugi> Denver airport is creepy af
21:36 < khelpw> hell, you basically have to be LE or prove you walk around with 400K in cash on the regular just to get a pistol permit
21:36 < vinrock> im surrounded by ghettos and no chance in hell to get a cc in this state
21:36 < ThatOneRoadie> komugi, it's just the illuminati, you get used to them
21:36 < ThatOneRoadie> they actually are surprisingly involved in the community
21:37 < ThatOneRoadie> get to know them, they might even expand your basement to connect to the bunke-rail system
21:37 < komugi> I wouldn't mind that
21:37 < Casteil> mmm
21:37 < vinrock> i love how they got a statue of a gargoyle coming out of a suitcase in the airport
21:38 < vinrock> thats very confidence inspiring
21:38 < ThatOneRoadie> Yeah, CC in CO is basically pay $250 every 5 years and submit to a fairly in depth background investigation
21:38 < Casteil> I can't lie, I'm pretty proud of this "Modernization" plan I've cooked up for our in-house webapp over the space of a couple hours
21:38 < ThatOneRoadie> on the bright side, CC holders have a lower criminal rate than cops
21:38 < ThatOneRoadie> soooooooooo
21:38 < ThatOneRoadie> and it's basically unlimited in terms of where you can CC once you get the permit
21:38 < khelpw> Hows the castle doctrine there?
21:38 < ThatOneRoadie> no courthouses, no fed property, and nowhere with permanent metal detectors installed
21:39 < ThatOneRoadie> otherwise cc all you want
21:39 < khelpw> Fed property is only a little annoying because of national parks
21:39 < ThatOneRoadie> Civil immunity when justifiable homicide/self defense is granted by a judge
21:39 < vinrock> can you open carry in the federal parkland?
21:39 < vinrock> i wouldnt wana go too dee in colorado without a gat
21:39 < ThatOneRoadie> http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/colorado.pdf
21:39 < vinrock> too many scurry critters
21:39 < corn266> who's gonna stop you, smokey the bear?
21:40 < ThatOneRoadie> funny enough, aurora's trying to override state law
21:40 < ThatOneRoadie> aurora's trying to enforce no gun signs
21:40 < khelpw> Meh, get some bear spray. You'll be better off with that than a gun, and it's less to carry
21:40 < ThatOneRoadie> that's going to get shot down hard in court
21:40 < agent_white> Why is CC so necessary?
21:40 < khelpw> This is America.
21:40 < corn266> asks the agent
21:40 < ThatOneRoadie> It's not really necessary
21:40 < ThatOneRoadie> but an armed society is a polite society
21:40 < khelpw> Guns in my area.
21:40 < agent_white> Hey I'm not Agent_Orange, he's the one to worry about.
21:41 < F34RInc> rather have it when needed than not have it and really need it
21:41 < aName> khelpw: I like the people who think they're quick draw mcgraw
21:41 < vinrock> +++
21:41 < khelpw> aName: I prefer the ones that actually are.
21:41 < agent_white> I 'needed' guns when I worked ranching out in Kiowa. Just to protect livestock... not much livestock to protect around the city.
21:42 < khelpw> Different kind of animal to deal with.
21:42 < ThatOneRoadie> what's the old saying, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6
21:42 < aName> khelpw: I got robbed at gunpoint and someone was like 'oh, you should have had your own gun'. like I was going to be able to draw on the guy who already had the drop on me
21:42 < Hatter> woah khelpw, that sounded a bit racist
21:42 < khelpw> Wat? I just meant 2 legged vs 4
21:42 < corn266> aName: that's why you gotta constantly have a suicide vest on, so you actually get the jump on them
21:42 < khelpw> if it sounded racist, that's on you m8
21:42 < aName> corn266: lol
21:43 < khelpw> aName: nah, fuck that. You've got a gun pointed at you - you've already lost
21:43 < aName> khelpw: right
21:43 < khelpw> give him your money and when he turns around, screw your piece into his ear and take your shit back as well as your new gun
21:43 < alazare619> anyone know of an opensource alternative to sandboxie?
21:43 < Hatter> khelpw: I'd be fine, I've watched disarming videos on youtube
21:43 < ThatOneRoadie> I also used to live downtown and work swing
21:43 < corn266> You must be a pro then Hatter
21:44 < ThatOneRoadie> so walking 4 blocks from parking to loft/condo at 2 AM Was a bit sketch
21:44 < corn266> Can civs buy active hand grenades?
21:44 < JollyRgrs> Hatter: pfft, i've seen all the jason bourne movies, i'm good to go!
21:44 < ThatOneRoadie> I think you can with a $200 tax stamp per grenade corn266
21:45 < aName> khelpw: lol wasn't my money
21:45 < silentfury-s4pro> aName: pm?
21:45 < corn266> hmmmmmm https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/02/politics/fbi-arrest-detroit-man/index.html
21:45 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, there's definitely a way to do it legally
21:46 < ThatOneRoadie> and a number of ways to not
21:46 < ThatOneRoadie> "Gregerson allegedly struck a deal with the undercover FBI employee for five M67 fragmentation grenades in exchange for his Beretta M9 handgun as payment."
21:46 < ThatOneRoadie> yeah, that's one of the "not" ways
21:47 < khelpw> tbh, I'm not super worried, but I do hear a lot of stories about the homeless/drug situation around Denver
21:47 < ThatOneRoadie> It's definitely getting worse and more widespread
21:47 < ThatOneRoadie> but they're at least working on it, not letting it go unchecked like seattle did
21:47 < corn266> khelpw: if you go around DC (but not in DC) it's pretty bad as well
21:47 < khelpw> DC/baltimore have always been bad though
21:47 < vinrock> oh god dc is a fuckin shithole
21:47 < Hatter> sure is an awful lot of implied racism in the last hour
21:48 < corn266> DC actually put homeless on busses and dropped them off in surrounding towns
21:48 < vinrock> baltimore is so bad you run the red lights
21:48 < Hatter> it's not just me, is it?
21:48 < corn266> wut
21:48 < corn266> it's just you Hatter
21:48 < khelpw> I'm talking people who are used to queens/brooklyn and then move out to Denver and complain that they feel unsafe
21:48 < vinrock> those people never left their buildings if theyre comp[laining about the denver area
21:48 < vinrock> i was a hood rat and spent a lot of time in the ghetto
21:48 < khelpw> They did, they just lived in gentrified areas of queens/bk
21:48 < Heresiarch> Hatter: ...as with many, many other situations, yes...it's just you.
21:48 < vinrock> nowhere compares to the northeast
21:48 < Hatter> oh dear
21:48 < ThatOneRoadie> bbiab
21:49 < ThatOneRoadie> I'ma grab lunch
21:49 < ThatOneRoadie> (at 2 pm, fuck me)
21:49 < vinrock> khelpw if they ever saw the inside of queensbridge projects they'd move the fuck out the same night
21:49 < corn266> Here Hatter have some diversity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fvAAb0R0Rs
21:50 < Hatter> corn266: I don't much go in for ethnic music
21:50 < khelpw> Entirely possible, but one of them did live in Elmont
21:50 < corn266> wow, racist
21:50 < pcspkr> lol "clickops"
21:52 < Hatter> corn266: actually this is a pretty groovy ethnic song, much better then your rubbish, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENvESYRv3lg
21:52 < Hatter> *than
21:53 < alazare619> Started a little
21:53 < alazare619> Sharted
21:53 < alazare619> Never trust a fart
21:53 < Hatter> gross
21:53 < vinrock> words of wisdom to live by
21:53 < vinrock> it isn't a gamble worth taking
21:54 < pcspkr> the wet fart is the worst
21:54 < alazare619> By the point I realized it wasn't a fart I was past the point of no return
21:56 < corn266> what is it? over 30 don't trust your farts
21:58 < Hatter> corn266: did you even click my mf'n link
21:58 < vinrock> that seems like sound logic
21:58 < corn266> yes and it was garbage
21:58 < Hatter> guys I share quality links in here from time to time and I feel they go largely ignored
21:58 < Hatter> I'm getting sick of it
21:58 < corn266> your link was /actually/ ethnic music
21:59 < Hatter> yes a rare treat
21:59 < corn266> but comparing that to the link I posted is comparing apples to oranges
21:59 <+NinjaStyle> I don't click YouTube links
21:59 <+NinjaStyle> Videos bother me
21:59 < bmurt> you bother me
21:59 <+NinjaStyle> Good
21:59 <+NinjaStyle> You lick butt pubes
22:00 < corn266> NinjaStyle: type this into your cmd `telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl`
22:00 <+NinjaStyle> I'm on my phone but I think I've seen it
22:00 < vinrock> hasnt telnet been gone since like, forever
22:01 < corn266> I've re-enabled it by default so my users can watch ASCII star wars
22:01 < vinrock> aw thats nice of you
22:01 <+NinjaStyle> It's not installed on windows by default anymore iirc
22:01 < vinrock> not for a long time
22:01 <@killdash9> or you have stupid dbas who need it for 'reasons'
22:02 <@Code_Man65> Why the fuck are you using telnet on windows to test ports
22:02 < vinrock> i...
22:02 < vinrock> know some old devs that still use it on remote systems
22:02 <@Code_Man65> test-netconnection -port <port> -computername <ip/systemname>
22:02 < vinrock> y u no ssh????
22:02 < vinrock> I LIKE TELNET
22:02 < vinrock> ???? ????
22:02 <+NinjaStyle> Encryption is illegal
22:02 < Hatter> Code_Man65: how can I rename test-netconnection to 'telnet', I'm just used to it
22:02 <@Code_Man65> Create an alias
22:03 < Hatter> I was jk man
22:03 <@Code_Man65> Sorry, I have to tell people more often than I should that telnet isn't needed anymore
22:03 <@Code_Man65> Just like I have to tell them you don't have to install wireshark to do packet captures anymore
22:04 < corn266> wait you don't?
22:04 < corn266> (wireshark)
22:04 < Hatter> oh no Code_Man65 I think you've just embarrassed yourself
22:04 <@Code_Man65> Not since Windows 7/08 R2
22:04 <+NinjaStyle> The windows pcap stuff is shit tho
22:05 <@Code_Man65> It's a raw capture of all traffic
22:05 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah
22:05 < Heresiarch> nah, just use ethereal. *ducks*
22:05 <@Code_Man65> You can even convert it to a pcap if you want to evaluate in wireshark
22:05 <+NinjaStyle> Sometimes you just want a gui filter
22:05 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah but that's just slavery with extra steps
22:05 <@Code_Man65> So install Microsoft Message Analyzer on the system, doesn't require a reboot
22:05 <@Code_Man65> Uses the native capture driver already included
22:05 <+NinjaStyle> Message analyzer sucks compared
22:06 <@Code_Man65> No, you are just used to wireshark
22:06 <+NinjaStyle> Yes
22:06 <+NinjaStyle> I've tried it and it gave me trouble so I said fuck it and installed Wireshark
22:06 <@Code_Man65> tcp.port == 80 if you want to filter (for example) port 80 in a running (or loaded) capture
22:07 < aName> I really hate when computers for sale don't have which version of windows listed.
22:07 <+NinjaStyle> Thought it might do better at breaking down smb packets
22:07 < aName> Like 'Win 10' doesn't tell me enough, dammit - I need pro
22:08 < corn266> "Well it looks like windows"
22:08 <@Code_Man65> Assume home aName
22:09 <+NinjaStyle> Home is where the features isnt
22:09 < corn266> have a good weekend y'all
22:09 <+NinjaStyle> Glad that nerd left
22:10 <+NinjaStyle> I'm listening to old people complain at the airport bar
22:12 < Heresiarch> 4pm. Friday. Code freeze in effect. Nothing's broken. Fuckit, have a good weekend folks.
22:12 <+NinjaStyle> Glad that nerd left
22:13 <+NinjaStyle> This old lady is talking about back in her day
22:14 <+NinjaStyle> "Cooper thinks he is being cool"
22:14 < aName> Code_Man65: Yeah - that's the annoying bit
22:15 <+NinjaStyle> "I told him the other day, I said you should learn how to cook"
22:15 <+NinjaStyle> "scrambled eggs to him is the whole egg... Including the shell..."
22:16 < gnupluslinux> Put the you know what
22:16 < gnupluslinux> In the you know where
22:16 <+NinjaStyle> Why do old people complain non stop
22:17 < gnupluslinux> NinjaStyle when ya flying out to socal dammit
22:17 <+NinjaStyle> Idk
22:17 <+NinjaStyle> I'd rather be in socal
22:17 < gnupluslinux> Cause they got mothing else interesting
22:17 < mal_will> So, I'm trying to set up some routers to send netflow data over a vpn tunnel to a server managed in rackspace. I am starting to thing this is impossible
22:17 < alazare619> is it weird i use alpine linux as a host for docker
22:17 < mal_will> I should make a leprechaun next. out of lucky charms
22:17 < alazare619> its so lightweight and boots up near instant
22:18 <+NinjaStyle> Luse what you're good at imo
22:18 <+NinjaStyle> Use*
22:18 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RQcQsitw/image.png
22:18 < alazare619> like it uses 0 resources
22:18 < alazare619> and right there it has docker installed and ready to fire up some ocntainers
22:19 < alazare619> the entire installation of alpine linux is only 33MB
22:19 <+NinjaStyle> Wat
22:19 <+NinjaStyle> That's dope
22:19 < alazare619> it has a full package manager too ;)
22:19 < gnupluslinux> Put your hands down my pants and ill bet youll feel nuts
22:19 < alazare619> so setting up a docker host on alpine is as easy as this
22:19 < corn266> man I love living 3 minutes from work
22:20 <+NinjaStyle> Shit the nerd is back
22:20 < gnupluslinux> Yes im siskel yes im ebert and youre gettinf two thumbs up
22:20 <+NinjaStyle> I mean hi corn266
22:20 < corn266> nuuuu
22:20 < misspwn> suh
22:20 < alazare619> plop in the 33mb iso run setup-alpine follow the installer for about 3 minutes reboot then use vim to edit the repo list and remove a # from /etc/apk/repositories the community one then apk up and apk add docker
22:20 <+NinjaStyle> I had enough of 2 hand touch you want it rough you're out bounds
22:20 < alazare619> after that run rc-update docker boot and you are done
22:21 < corn266> speaking of docker alazare619 are there any security risks by running docker on a machien?
22:21 < alazare619> i found rancher and all those other docker "specific" hosts convoluted
22:21 < alazare619> corn266: not that i'm aware of off hand
22:22 < alazare619> im not a fan of docker for windows so i have a VM on my windows machine running alpine just to have docker available
22:22 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah docker windows sucks
22:22 <+NinjaStyle> Uses hyper v
22:22 <+NinjaStyle> So like, you can't have VB installed
22:22 < corn266> I just found that out when trying to run docker on my home machine
22:22 < mal_will> I really want to know what Rackspace is like. On the inside. It seems like a prison
22:23 < corn266> YoU NeEd wInDOwS PrO
22:23 <+NinjaStyle> I met a dude at discord who works there
22:23 < mal_will> Can he confirm?
22:23 < mal_will> is it a prison?
22:23 <+NinjaStyle> He seemed to like it
22:24 < mal_will> the three people I'm talking to seem bleak af
22:24 <+NinjaStyle> My knee is fucked up
22:24 < mal_will> Maybe it's a netset team thang
22:25 < corn266> NinjaStyle might as well amputate
22:25 <+NinjaStyle> Maybe
22:25 <+NinjaStyle> Are you a Dr?
22:25 < alazare619> mal_will: just get ahold of teck923
22:25 < alazare619> he comes around some times
22:26 < alazare619> NinjaStyle:  was that someone teck923
22:26 < corn266> depends NinjaStyle does this smell like chloroform?
22:26 < aName> lol the funny thing about that is that it takes several minutes of holding it there
22:26 <+NinjaStyle> I don't think so
22:26 < aName> And then they don't just 'go to sleep' - like, they might die
22:26 <+NinjaStyle> Whoever does kitbogas infra
22:27 < mal_will> ahhh forgot about kitboga
22:28 <+NinjaStyle> There's like 1000 waffle houses in Georgia
22:28 <+NinjaStyle> I'm convinced more than Starbucks
22:28 < vinrock> dude
22:28 < vinrock> ive been on the highway and could see like two waffle houses in my view and a huddle house
22:29 < mal_will> O man. I have comm-works and rackspace on one call and they are beefin
22:30 < vinrock> awesome
22:30 < alazare619> NinjaStyle:  black people like their chicken and waffles
22:30 < aName> NinjaStyle: FEMA uses waffle houses as a metric of how bad a storm is
22:30 < vinrock> try slipping in a quick "fuckyou" and see if they take the bait
22:30 < aName> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Index
22:30 <+NinjaStyle> aName: wat
22:30 < aName> alazare619: Have you ever had chicken and waffles? it's delicious!
22:30 <+NinjaStyle> Lmao
22:31 <+NinjaStyle> Chicken and waffles us excellent
22:31 <+NinjaStyle> Is*
22:31 < mal_will> Hard to mess up that savory/sweet combo
22:31 < alazare619> aName: no i'm not black
22:31 < aName> alazare619: Neither am I.
22:32 < aName> alazare619: But if you DON'T like chicken and waffles - there's something wrong with you
22:32 < alazare619> but i do like waffles and fried chicken
22:32 < aName> Good.
22:32 < alazare619> but much like pineapple and pizza
22:32 < alazare619> you dont put one on the other
22:32 < mal_will> Man, this comm-works guy is being a real dick
22:32 < aName> alazare619: It's OK, you can be wrong, we won't judge you too harshly.
22:32 < vinrock> ok if you wont slip in a quick "fuckyou" then do a "what did you say about his mother?"
22:32 < mal_will> Everyone needs some chicken and waffles
22:33 < mal_will> like, try to have a bad day when there's chicken and waffles lurking
22:33 <+NinjaStyle> I got stabbed by a chicken and waffles and I wasn't even mad
22:33 < mal_will> breading was too tough?
22:34 < abakedapplepie> so
22:34 < aName> Guessing a small bone or something
22:34 < abakedapplepie> if a natural disaster hits detroit im fucked
22:34 < abakedapplepie> we dont have waffle house
22:34 < abakedapplepie> :'(
22:34 <+NinjaStyle> abakedapplepie: fuck
22:34 < vinrock> waffle houses dont show up til you hit maryland
22:34 < alazare619> abakedapplepie: maybe thats why your city is so already fucked
22:34 < alazare619> the signal never went off
22:34 < abakedapplepie> maybe
22:34 <+NinjaStyle> We ha EA a waffle House in Denver
22:34 < abakedapplepie> we have ihop tho
22:35 < vinrock> whoa
22:35 < vinrock> yeah we got ihop everywhere
22:35 < alazare619> we have an ihop
22:35 < aName> abakedapplepie: Just go down to Toledo.
22:35 < alazare619> theres cockroaches that fall from the ceiling in it
22:35 < alazare619> its really fucking gross
22:35 < vinrock> ihops in general are gross
22:35 < abakedapplepie> we dont have cockroaches
22:35 < abakedapplepie> thank god
22:35 <+NinjaStyle> Ihop > Denny's tho
22:35 < aName> vinrock: Yeah but where else am I going to get french fries and pancakes at 2AM?
22:36 < DomLS3> NinjaStyle: ihob*
22:36 < vinrock> but then again, ive only had my order taken by a 300lb pregnant woman smoking a cigarette at a waffle house
22:36 <+NinjaStyle> B for butt
22:36 < vinrock> im lucky in jersey we have diners out the wazoo that are open 24/7
22:36 < DomLS3> buttseckz
22:36 < aName> vinrock: Is it wrong that I want to punch the women I see doing that in the stomach?
22:36 < vinrock> aname i had to resist the urge as well
22:36 < alazare619> i just love me some truck stop food
22:36 < alazare619> nothing better then good ol truck stop food
22:36 < vinrock> mmm
22:36 < vinrock> jackass meat sandwich
22:36 < DomLS3> cockmeat sammich
22:36 < aName> vinrock: Those kids never stand a chance.
22:37 < alazare619> like we had this one truck stop restaurant for 10 bucks you got a 4lb burger
22:37 < alazare619> 4 FUCKING lbs
22:37 < aName> umm
22:37 < aName> that's not a burger
22:37 < aName> That's a loaf of bread and some beef.
22:37 < corn266> it's a tiny cow
22:37 < alazare619> more like a ton of meat and about 2 inch of bun lol
22:37 < vinrock> some truck stops have awesome food
22:37 <+NinjaStyle> aName: https://youtu.be/W6AzgEWwzeA
22:37 < vinrock> that is a rarity tho
22:38 < Maarten> and one wonders why America has a obesity problem.... ;)
22:38 < misspwn> the meat to bun ratio is not good
22:38 < corn266> because we subsidize corn
22:38 < alazare619> the burger was massive
22:38 < vinrock> i hate a poor meat-t-o-bun ratio
22:38 < corn266> vinrock in it for the twinks
22:39 < alazare619> i mean it wasnt just meat and bun
22:39 < vinrock> ofc
22:39 <+NinjaStyle> Got two beers, over $20 before tip
22:39 < misspwn> or when the bun just starts dissolving and then you have to act like a savage trying to eat the burger
22:39 <+NinjaStyle> Wtf
22:39 < alazare619> there was all kinds of stuff on it but it was easily 1 lb of meat alone
22:39 < vinrock> there's a diner near me that sells a 50lb burger
22:39 < alazare619> if not 2
22:39 < misspwn> holyshit where are you NinjaStyle
22:39 < corn266> Move to a college town NinjaStyle
22:39 < vinrock> misspwn thats nasty and why im not a huge burger fan
22:39 < vinrock> BUT
22:39 < vinrock> 5 guys burgers are always perfect
22:39 < vinrock> you can eat that shit to the last bite and its not greasy or gross
22:39 < misspwn> i mean 4-8bucks for a tall beer seems to be the price range
22:39 <+NinjaStyle> misspwn: airport in ATL
22:39 < vinrock> just perfection the whole time
22:40 < misspwn> so if you are tipping i suppose that could be close to 20
22:40 < alazare619> there is this other truck stop place near me here
22:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> just set up a corp account with a company
22:40 < corn266> vinrock you get em with the mushrooms? that shit lit
22:40 < alazare619> they have probably the best chicken fried steak and tatter dinner ever
22:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> set the secret question as "What is your favorite movie?"
22:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> Answer, Brokeback Mountain
22:40 < McDonaldsWiFi>  /r/madlads
22:40 < vinrock> i get the double cheeseburger with the works + jalapenos
22:40 < misspwn> haha
22:40 < alazare619> the chicken fried steak is no joke a 8 inch radius from center
22:40 < vinrock> also, the veggies are super fresh
22:40 < misspwn> hey why is it called chicken fried steak?
22:40 < alazare619> it hung over the edges of the plate
22:41 < vinrock> oh god i love me some chicken fried steak
22:41 < vinrock> with that white sauce
22:41 < vinrock> *not jism
22:41 < corn266> "white sauce" lol
22:41 < alazare619> you had a seperate plate for the tatters and gravy
22:41 < misspwn> food separation is important
22:41 < corn266> misspwn it's steak fried like fried chicken
22:41 < misspwn> ohh i've never actually had it because it almost always looks overcooked and dry
22:41 < vinrock> dude its so good
22:42 < alazare619> thats just not american
22:42 < corn266> get that shit from yo grandma and lather it in gravy
22:42 < misspwn> hmmmmm
22:42 < alazare619> "never had chicken fried steak"
22:42 < alazare619> WTF
22:42 < alazare619> chicken friend chicken is really good too
22:42 < misspwn> up until a few months ago i never had chicken parm because it always looked so gross
22:42 < vinrock> the frozen chicken fried steak marie callendar dinner is actually pretty scrumpy
22:42 < misspwn> then i went to a nice restaurant and they did it up right
22:42 < vinrock> yeah if it isnt done right its a bit much
22:42 < vinrock> nice italian restaurants that do it right tho
22:42 < vinrock> awwww yea
22:43 < vinrock> or veal parm if you prefer eating children
22:43 < corn266> i think you just have a problem with food coated in breadcrumbs
22:43 < misspwn> the one i went to actually did it like a roulade so the chicken was rolled up with the stuff and then breaded and cooked with some brown butter and a little sauce on top
22:43 < misspwn> so it wasn' soggy
22:44 < misspwn> vinrock, you're right though, i have issues with food big time
22:44 <+NinjaStyle> ATL is like a shittier DEN
22:44 < vinrock> that wasnt me saying that it was corn266
22:44 < vinrock> man i used to love atl
22:44 < vinrock> partying in buckhead
22:44 < vinrock> i heard its a shithole now
22:45 < vinrock> aw man
22:45 <+NinjaStyle> Like airport wise
22:45 < vinrock> and driving 85 through town
22:45 < vinrock> 8 LANES OF FURY
22:45 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
22:45 <+NinjaStyle> People here drive ok tbh
22:45 <+NinjaStyle> Better than tx
22:46 < vinrock> dude idk how i pulled it off but i hammered down 85 from where it's just 2 lanes in NC all the way to ATL over 100mph the whole time
22:46 < misspwn> ATL airport is garbage, to save 600 bucks i had a 9hr layover before flying to jersey for another layover to london haha
22:46 < misspwn> granted this was years ago and was able to get a round trip flight from minneapolis to london for less than 700bucks
22:46 < vinrock> i kinda like atl airport
22:46 < vinrock> the continental girls were really nice
22:46 < vinrock> and i'd convinced them in the past to put me on certain flights without a ticket
22:47 < misspwn> be sure to prepare for snacks or things to have with you as the food places and stands close early-ish
22:47 <+NinjaStyle> ATL airport is alot like DIA
22:47 <+NinjaStyle> Just less nice
22:47 < vinrock> minus the illuminati
22:47 < aName> misspwn: The problem I've had is finding long-enough layovers in ATL
22:47 <+NinjaStyle> But design is very similar
22:47 < aName> misspwn: I want to visit their aquarium on the way  to/from my actual destination
22:47 < vinrock> i grew up with the worst airports so pretty much any other one i like
22:47 < aName> But eight hours is not long enough
22:47 < vinrock> newark is always crowded
22:47 < vinrock> leguardia and jfk are too far and shitty
22:47 < misspwn> aName, yeah this was early 2000s. also you can bring those small gas station booze things in a ziplock back and avoid paying for insane drinks inside
22:47 < vinrock> philly is just a fuckin nightmare
22:48 < aName> vinrock: My ex lives in Newark - she's been trying to convince me to fly to her for sex. >.<
22:48 < vinrock> where do you live
22:48 < aName> misspwn: lol gas station booze. Sounds like you live somewhere free.
22:48 < aName> vinrock: Buffalo
22:48 <+NinjaStyle> DEN is the best airport in the country I think
22:48 < vinrock> you can get cheap flights to trenton-mercer or atlantic city
22:48 < misspwn> free? i'm not a hobo hahahah
22:48 < vinrock> not sure if you can from denver but possibly
22:48 <+NinjaStyle> I've been to a few
22:48 < aName> misspwn: I have done that - I felt so sketchy mixing my jack and coke in the waiting lobby though
22:48 < vinrock> and trenton-mercer airport is small and very nice
22:49 < vinrock> its more princeton area than anywhere near trenton
22:49 < aName> misspwn: To be fair, it was like... six AM
22:49 < aName> misspwn: I RrrrrrrRRRRReeaaaaaaaaally didn't want to go
22:49 < misspwn> but if you wana have a couple mixed drinks while waiting around it makes you look less like an alcoholic if it aint six am lolol
22:49 < vinrock> er duh
22:49 < vinrock> not denver, buffalo
22:49 < vinrock> oh dude
22:49 < vinrock> you live in buffalo
22:50 < vinrock> why you bothering with a girl in jersey
22:50 < aName> Yes.
22:50 <+NinjaStyle> Weird how southwest flies to hobby in Houston
22:50 < vinrock> buffalo has a strangely high concentration of hot women
22:50 < aName> vinrock: ... the fuck you say
22:50 < vinrock> bro ive been everywhere
22:50 < aName> vinrock: Maybe by the university
22:50 < vinrock> buffalo every time im like wtf is going on here
22:50 < vinrock> whats in the water
22:51 <+NinjaStyle> Something in the water
22:51 < aName> vinrock: Anyhow - bothering because she's hot and so is the sex.
22:51 < misspwn> make her pay for your flight and then go bang her and then leave
22:51 < aName> misspwn: That's her plan
22:51 < misspwn> get some chick fil a after
22:51 < misspwn> not sure why she is your ex and that you had to move that far away from her but if she's gona pay for it and it won't be awkward, go nuts
22:51 < aName> misspwn: The bigotry makes it taste better.
22:52 < aName> She moved after she graduated college.
22:52 < abakedapplepie> your ex is flying you out for sex?
22:52 < abakedapplepie> that sounds awful
22:52 < aName> abakedapplepie: Yeah
22:52 < aName> abakedapplepie: lol
22:52 <+NinjaStyle> To Buffalo too
22:52 < abakedapplepie> that sounds like a terrible idea
22:52 < misspwn> i wouldn't with any of mine, because they were controlling douchebags
22:52 < aName> abakedapplepie: I dunno why she can't just get some other person though lol
22:52 < aName> abakedapplepie: It's not like dick is in short supply.
22:52 <+NinjaStyle> Rex Ryan is catfishing  you
22:52 < abakedapplepie> like if she wants some dick pretty sure you can go get that anywhere
22:52 < abakedapplepie> she wants you, man
22:52 < abakedapplepie> and thats not good
22:52 < aName> lol
22:53 < misspwn> she's gona lure him in and not let him leave
22:53 < abakedapplepie> why is she your ex
22:53 < abakedapplepie> i guess is the big question
22:53 < aName> abakedapplepie: She moved.
22:53 < misspwn> and then she'll say she got pregnant
22:53 < abakedapplepie> oh
22:53 < abakedapplepie> so not anything insane?
22:53 < aName> abakedapplepie: Naw.
22:53 < abakedapplepie> i guess thats a little better
22:53 < abakedapplepie> but still
22:53 < abakedapplepie> idk
22:53 < abakedapplepie> sounds fucky
22:53 < abakedapplepie> well
22:53 < abakedapplepie> by definition it is fucky i guess
22:53 < abakedapplepie> haha
22:54 < misspwn> breaking up because of relocation seems reasonable
22:54 <+NinjaStyle> Jaja
22:54 <+NinjaStyle> Huehue
22:54 < aName> Yeah, no ill will
22:54 < aName> Just physically separated.
22:54 <+NinjaStyle> No mal_will
22:54 < aName> And I've done the LDR thing before
22:54 < aName> "Meh."
22:55 < misspwn> aName, and you didn't chase after her like in a movie?
22:55 < aName> misspwn: No lol
22:55 < aName> misspwn: I knew when we started dating she had to move in about a year
22:55 < aName> misspwn: And I didn't love her
22:55 < aName> misspwn: I mean, I liked her and enjoyed her company
22:55 < aName> But I didn't love her
22:55 < aName> so it's not like I was heartbroken
22:56 <+NinjaStyle> Sad
22:56 <+NinjaStyle> Poor girl
22:56 < misspwn> that is sad
22:56 < aName> lol why?
22:56 < corn266> wait aName I just read a thread about someone having sex with their cousin cause she's dying of cancer
22:56 < aName> It'd be sad if I lied to her about that
22:56 < corn266> is that you?
22:56 < aName> corn266: lol no
22:56 < mal_will> Lol Ill will
22:56 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
22:56 < aName> corn266: My cousins are all ugly.
22:56 < misspwn> aName, naw you did the right thing man
22:56 < corn266> sucks to be you
22:56 < misspwn> that's pretty respectable actually
22:57 <+NinjaStyle> Sometimes the right thing is sad
22:57 <+NinjaStyle> Like shooting an injured aminal
22:57 < misspwn> aName, you can fly here but i won't do it
22:57 < misspwn> i'll just make you food
22:57 < mal_will> That tame Impala song eventually is sad
22:57 < mal_will> Always gets me
22:57 < misspwn> we call that the real houswife experience
22:57 < misspwn> food only
22:57 <+NinjaStyle> Make me food
22:57 < aName> misspwn: A tempting offer, but I dunno - does it involve whips and chains?
22:58 < misspwn> nah, i'm pretty vanilla and a nevernude meaning i almost always have socks on unless i'm in the shower
22:58 < misspwn> fucking hate being barefoot
22:58 < corn266> mal_will that song where the music video is a bunch of heads while you're tripping on acid is TRIPPY
22:58 <+NinjaStyle> Lol
22:58 < aName> misspwn: go with the knee socks and we're golden
22:58 <+NinjaStyle> :0
22:58 < mal_will> By tame Impala corn266 ?
22:58 < misspwn> k deal
22:58 <+NinjaStyle> I'm a matchmaker guys
22:58 < misspwn> NinjaStyle, i am going crazy my brain is fucking with me. had the lasik at 7am
22:59 < misspwn> i can see everything
22:59 < corn266> E V E R Y T H I N G
22:59 <+NinjaStyle> misspwn: lasik seems intense
22:59 < misspwn> it gets blurry soemtimes  but the eye drops help with that
22:59 < corn266> bet it's like putting on a new pair of contacts
23:00 < alazare619> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/04/edward-snowden-people-still-powerless-but-aware
23:00 < misspwn> the procedure itself was uhh less than five minutes 15 seconds per eye for the first laser and the same for the 2nd
23:00 <+NinjaStyle> Snowden is a bitch tho
23:00 < corn266> alazare619 my DSS rep came in on wednesday and kept citing snowden as the cause of all our problems
23:00 < mal_will> I want to get lasik for my pet
23:00 < mal_will> idk how animals handle lasik
23:01 <+NinjaStyle> corn266: for PC?
23:01 < misspwn> can animals get lasik? suppose they could
23:01 <+NinjaStyle> PCI*
23:01 < alazare619> NinjaStyle:  why is he a bitch?
23:01 < alazare619> he did what was right
23:01 < corn266> NIST SP 800-53 NinjaStyle
23:01 <+NinjaStyle> According to him alazare619
23:01 <+NinjaStyle> He risked a lot of lives
23:01 < misspwn> ima nope out of that snodentalk
23:02 < alazare619> how so
23:02 <+NinjaStyle> I know some shit that isn't even classified I won't share
23:02 < alazare619> becuase they were stealing info without our consent
23:02 < alazare619> fuck em
23:02 < alazare619> they can die
23:02 < corn266> NinjaStyle if you share classified shit i will report you to... someone...
23:02 <+NinjaStyle> Because a- it's illegal and he knew it. B - everyone already knew about nsa surveyance
23:03 <+NinjaStyle> C - he fled like a bitch
23:03 < corn266> A) he went through proper channels and was ignored; B) Not everyone even knew the NSA was a thing (myself included); C) Wouldn't you?
23:03 <+NinjaStyle> No
23:03 <+NinjaStyle> No and no
23:03 < corn266> yuh
23:03 < corn266> yea and yea
23:04 < corn266> well maybe not C
23:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> have a good weekend guys
23:04 < corn266> see ya McDonaldsWiFi
23:04 <+NinjaStyle> There is way more disturbing shit happening than what he leaked
23:05 < corn266> like general populace psycho-analysis?
23:05 <+NinjaStyle> He was just a bitch ass contractor
23:05 <+NinjaStyle> He wanted fame and got it
23:05 <+NinjaStyle> All while committing treason
23:06 < corn266> fair enough
23:06 < agent_white> I think he fucked himself over; nothing changed with those leaks.
23:06 < corn266> agent_white ++
23:06 <+NinjaStyle> Yeah who are we kidding
23:06 <+NinjaStyle> All you fuckers still use Facebook
23:06 < corn266> nope
23:06 < corn266> fuck that shit
23:06 < alazare619> "Other shifts in the technology sector show Snowden’s influence has in many ways been limited. The rise of the “smart speaker”, exemplified by Amazon’s Echo, has left many privacy activists baffled. Why, just a few years after a global scandal involving government surveillance, would people willingly install always-on microphones in their homes?"
23:06 <+NinjaStyle> Cambridge analytica was way more fucked
23:07 < alazare619> exactly why i dont have an echo...
23:07 < corn266> alazare619 most of the reasoning is "it's always listening, but the network gate doesn't open until some magic words are spoken
23:07 < alazare619> corn266:  and it has an sdcard
23:07 <+NinjaStyle> Which can be proven
23:08 < alazare619> has anyone actually seen whats transmitted after the gate is opened?
23:08 <+NinjaStyle> I'm pretty sure yeah
23:08 <+NinjaStyle> Some has to have rooted one
23:08 < corn266> speaking of amazon, anyone else notice the first place firefox pings after being opened is an amazon server?
23:09 < alazare619> corn266:  alot of their update mechanism and stuff is on amazon
23:10 < corn266> don't they have auto-update mechanisms that run in the background?
23:10 < agent_white> I listened to an interesting TED talk from Jaron Lanier. One of the points he made about all these companies harvesting data was: "it's never a bad thing to pay for software, if people were more open to it, sites wouldn't have to have lean to advertising or data harvesting to make money"
23:10 < alazare619> i have no less then 15 paid apps on my android phone
23:10 < alazare619> and 6 or 7 on my desktop
23:11 < corn266> agent_white not to use a /whataboutism/ arguement, but wouldn't there still be sites that mine monero just because?
23:11 < agent_white> Interesting dude, definitely some hybrid "digitial jazz hippie".
23:11 < alazare619> some of hte best paid apps i have on my android is friendly for facebook replacement, puffin browser it saves data and compresses, a text messaging app with an archive and export function and where i can save teh nudes i get sent but requires a pin ynab which is SAAS
23:12 < corn266> don't forget  your office365 along with oneDrive
23:12 < alazare619> i dont use office365
23:12 < alazare619> i have office 2013 license i paid for
23:12 < alazare619> right when they announced 365
23:12 < alazare619> i was like nope nope nope nope nope
23:13 < agent_white> corn266: Oh of course! The ideas in his talk are far out and talking about "what it could be", the dude really is a digital-hippie in a sense.
23:13 < corn266> but just for $11 a month all the latest, greatest, and most secure office tools could be yours for a more productive and enjoyable experience
23:13 < agent_white> But alas the real world exists, companies aren't purely altruistic, etc.
23:14 < corn266> digital jazz hippie is some title
23:14 < corn266> i kinda would like it...
23:14 < agent_white> Dude he literally is the embodiment of it.
23:14 < agent_white> VERY great speaker, too.
23:15 < corn266> you got a link ready or can I just google "ted talk tech hippie state of data harvesting"
23:15 < agent_white> The TED talk is called "How we need to remake the internet". Highly suggest it (no need to watch, only listen, since he doesn't use slides or anything)
23:15 < agent_white> https://www.ted.com/talks/jaron_lanier_how_we_need_to_remake_the_internet
23:15 < agent_white> Hahah
23:16 < corn266> youtube link as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ-PUXPVlos
23:16 < corn266> WOAH
23:16 < corn266> is this richard stallman's brother?
23:16 < agent_white> I had no idea that he was a Microsoft Researcher until I looked him up after. (also known as the 'godfather of vr' etc)
23:16 < agent_white> Hahahah
23:17 < corn266> fuck it sounds like he's getting tired from just talking
23:17 < agent_white> Yeah, those deep deep breaths... yikes.
23:18 < corn266> I wonder if he has that fat guy strength
23:21 < mal_will> My office has had a happy hour every day for the last 6 business days
23:21 < mal_will> now 3:00 comes and if there's not beer in hands, people get antsy
23:21 < corn266> "My office has a drinking problem"
23:21 < mal_will> we get the collective shakes
23:21 < mal_will> the whole floor is vibrating subtly
23:22 < corn266> speaking of, ima go do a liquor run, y'all want any?
23:22 < mal_will> I will take some everclear
23:22 < corn266> kk be back in 20
23:22 < agent_white> \o Whiskey and bitters for some ol fashions, pelase.
23:22 < agent_white> please even* :P
23:22 < agent_white> But Jaron I think would butt heads with Stallman.
23:42 < corn266> shit 20 minutes exact fuck yea
23:46 <+NinjaStyle> My plane boards in 20
23:46 <+NinjaStyle> Wee
23:49 < misspwn> godbless2u
23:49 < corn266> have fun and don't catch a "cold"
23:56 <+NinjaStyle> More ild people talking
23:56 <+NinjaStyle> Old*
23:59 < hello_kitty> when i typed host mysubdomain.mydomain.com from bash, i see the ip of my server... when i paste that into a browser i get mysubdomain.mydomain.com's server IP address could not be found. howtofix?
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