--- Log opened Mon Jun 11 00:00:29 2018
--- Day changed Mon Jun 11 2018
00:00 < genr8_> that last one shows some jumpers on there
00:00 < MillerBOSS> Any idea on the setting here https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MKuvmoW0AZQ/maxresdefault.jpg ? This is the other IT guy's Fluke.
00:00 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 74,572 bytes
00:00 < genr8_> that one
00:01 < MillerBOSS> I have the jumpers on there as an example
00:01 < genr8_> Ω
00:01 < MillerBOSS> OK
00:01 < MillerBOSS> How about the black and red cables. There are 4 ports
00:02 < genr8_> red in the omega and black into common
00:02 < MillerBOSS> OK. So you said each of the 12 pins to the chip next to it. Which chip?
00:03 < genr8_> PD557
00:03 < MillerBOSS> Gotcha PD557
00:03 < MillerBOSS> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/pca9557.pdf
00:03 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 0 bytes
00:04 < genr8_> that didnt help all that much besides maybe give a guess to the pinout. they drew the shape of the package wrong so im not like super excited about that
00:04 < MillerBOSS> Oh I missed that. You got a good eye. 8 traces on the bottom and 4 traces on the top to the the PD557
00:04 < genr8_> bottom of page 1. the things named " P0 through P7"
00:05 < genr8_> those pins would be the corresponding pins i think
00:07 <+NinjaStyle> Is someone doing hardware stuff?
00:07 < MillerBOSS> Trying to
00:07 < genr8_> Page 29 has the correct chip shape diagram. so it is the right chip.
00:09 < genr8_> pin 1 always starts by the dot
00:12 < MillerBOSS> https://millerboss.com/x/note-5zEXTya8zj-c.html new images at bottom again. Cleaner top of board
00:13 < genr8_> on page 1 the datasheet talks about "On power on, the I/Os are configured as inputs" (likely meaning to read in the jumpers). It also being possible to use those 8 datalines as Output, but Im guessing that functionality is not being used
00:14 < genr8_> the missing header ports nearby.... may be the hidden "Output" portion of that chip
00:14 < genr8_> thats likely a debug header
00:15 < genr8_> or maybe the jumpers ARE the debug header. and they cap them off after factory testing.
00:16 <+NinjaStyle> What device is that?
00:16 < MillerBOSS> Thanks for the information genr8_ . Using the meter and pin 1 on the chip to every single pin on the 12 pin thing show a reading. Row 2 shows 5.5 ohms and row 1 all show 7.5 ohms for example. What am I looking for?
00:17 < genr8_> wow thats going to be a very precise measurement then
00:17 < MillerBOSS> NinjaStyle 👉  https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/service-provider/mobile-internet/att_microcell.html
00:17 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Mobile Internet - AT&T Microcell: A Cisco Small Cell Solution - Cisco
00:17 < MillerBOSS> 4G model is black. 3G model is white
00:17 < MillerBOSS> I have the black
00:18 <+NinjaStyle> What is the goal here?
00:18 < genr8_> i dont think we're gonna be able to tell anything from probing that chip
00:19 < genr8_> other than, yes its connected
00:19 <+NinjaStyle> Trying to shell the device?
00:19 < MillerBOSS> https://hackaday.com/2012/04/12/poking-at-the-femtocell-hardware-in-an-att-microcell/ is the 3G model as well.
00:19 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Poking at the femtocell hardware in an AT&T Microcell | Hackaday
00:19 < genr8_> the fact its so low at 5-7 ohms, means its near directly connected
00:19 < MillerBOSS> NinjaStyle 👉 when you open the device the jumpers come off the board
00:20 < genr8_> he already shucked the device but the jumpers came out
00:20 < MillerBOSS> As a anti tamper mechanism. I want to get the jumpers back on properly. 3 are real jumpers 3 are fake. See pictures here https://millerboss.com/x/note-BECPFss39K-5.html
00:20 <+NinjaStyle> Oh
00:22 < MillerBOSS> NinjaStyle 👉 I attempted to look in the device to see what was up with no GPS connector on the outside of it
00:22 < MillerBOSS> So at this point I just want to get the jumpers back on just to not brick it when powered on
00:23 <+NinjaStyle> Gonna be tough
00:23 < MillerBOSS> And like I said when google'n the numbers on the sticker shows zero results. I di into Google tips like genr8_ has done
00:24 < MillerBOSS> Yeah probably. There is much written on the 3G white device though and where the jumpers go. I am just suprised there isn't anything on this one.
00:24 < genr8_> if this were me, i'd give up, consider myself beaten, and put it on a shelf and post on a cellphone forum asking for someone to respond with the correct jumper settings
00:25 < genr8_> then you at least will know that their device ran with those settings and hopefully yours will too
00:25 < MillerBOSS> Yeah that is one way to do it. :)
00:26 < MillerBOSS> Have you seen https://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts/datasheet/477/PD557.php ?
00:26 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  PD557 datasheet - Remote 8-bit I2C AND Smbus Low-power I/O Expander WITH
00:26 < genr8_> its only like 1 in 12 chance to guess ?
00:27 < MillerBOSS> Yeah pretty much
00:27 < genr8_> still not good.
00:28 < genr8_> from what i could tell. that chip stores nothing when its off
00:29 < genr8_> yep
00:29 < genr8_> "On power up or reset, all registers return to default values."
00:30 < MillerBOSS> Shouldn't this board be on FCC's site or something?
00:31 < genr8_> you think the FCC is doing their job? lol nope
00:31 < MillerBOSS> Alrighty then :P
00:37 < MillerBOSS> I see looking further at the bottom of the board the 8 traces appear to go to that chip as well
00:38 <+NinjaStyle> I do t think fcc cares about anything except the wireless comms
00:39 < genr8_> Net Neutrality goes away tomorrow btw
00:39 < genr8_> officially
00:39 <+NinjaStyle> Wat
00:39 < genr8_> they voted back in december but its tomorrow (for real)
00:39 < genr8_> http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/10/technology/net-neutrality/index.html
00:39 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  The end of net neutrality is here
00:42 < genr8_> the FCC will no longer regulate the internet and broadband monopolies.
00:49 < MillerBOSS> The only other thing I can think of is a decent magnifier glass to look for the scratches.
00:58 < Casteil> damn
00:58 < Casteil> nothing like a random text from the company owner to send your mind reeling
00:59 < Casteil> this weekend was kind of a crazy ride so this could be about any number of things
00:59 < misspwn> well what did the text say?
00:59 < Casteil> (I've never gotten a text from him, and the text he sent was just "Hey Caleo, this is Joe"
01:00 < Casteil> so much stuff happened this weekend it could be about just about anything
01:01 < Casteil> we had a network gateway failure for our hub network, IT guy was out of town for a family thing, boss started handling it but got a call from his wife about her water having broke
01:02 < Casteil> so I jumped in to get things restored somewhat until someone more specific can get on it
01:03 < JollyRgrs> https://i.imgur.com/jxaoFOc.jpg
01:03 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 79,626 bytes
01:09 < Casteil> ahh good, boss/wife/baby are good :) have a feeling I'm about to get asked to fill in for my boss for a while
01:11 < misspwn> oh his wife just had a baby?
01:13 < MillerBOSS> Interesting subject https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley
01:13 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Uncanny valley - Wikipedia
01:15 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180610/p4#a180610p4
01:15 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Techmeme: Leaked photos of Google Pixel 3 XL show glass back and display notch, dual front-facing camera sensors, single rear camera, 4GB of RAM, Snapdragon 845 SoC (Mishaal Rahman/XDA Developers)
01:16 < MillerBOSS> Holy shit https://www.techmeme.com/180610/p7#a180610p7
01:16 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Techmeme: Newark opens high-quality feeds from city's surveillance cameras to the public, asks to report suspicious activity; some fear it may help stalkers and burglars (Rick Rojas/New York Times)
01:21 < MillerBOSS> https://cvp.newarkpublicsafety.org/login?redirect=%2F
01:21 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Citizen Virtual Patrol
01:21 < gavit> JollyRgrs:the ip was null routed
01:23 < MillerBOSS> Holy shit anyone in the world can view these cameras.
01:25 < MillerBOSS> https://cvp.newarkpublicsafety.org/camera/00000001-0000-babe-0000-bcc3422c2590/player
01:25 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Citizen Virtual Patrol
01:40 < MillerBOSS> https://imgur.com/gallery/5IwATOH
01:40 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMGUR Gallery → drunkwhenididthis → What a difference a second makes → 6 hours ago → No Topic → 2 Images → ⚘ 120,637 → ☺ 3,105 → ☹ 239 → ✡ 2926 → ✍ 454
01:40 < MillerBOSS> >Not looking to argue politics here. Just pointing out the difference between the picture that is released and one taken after/before.
02:05 < Casteil> damn I love the battery on this phone
02:05 < Casteil> >2.5 days on this charge and still have 35% left
02:18 < MadCamel> Good. Public safety cameras *should* be public.
02:19 < MadCamel> So should ANPR data. If the gov't and repo-men know where your car is.. you should know where their cars are.
02:31 < aName> Who makes a short server cabinet I can put under my desk. All the short ones I see are so shallow
02:31 < aName> I could go with an open frame if I had to, but I'd prefer a cabinet
02:31 < aName> Difficulty - not stupid money it's just so I can organize a bit
02:33 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY
02:33 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → HASTILY MADE CLEVELAND TOURISM VIDEO → ⚘ 9,685,288 ↑ 55,786 ↓ 1,202 ✍ 4,727
02:34 < MillerBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM
02:34 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Hastily Made Cleveland Tourism Video: 2nd Attempt → ⚘ 11,012,776 ↑ 102,866 ↓ 1,463 ✍ 10,099 → * Non-embeddable
02:37 < Casteil> ack, I don't really like communicating directly with my company owner
02:37 < Casteil> not because I don't like the guy, in fact, he's brilliant and I respect the hell out of him, but I feel like I'm always walking on egg shells
03:07 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: Just be confident about what you're talking about and present it in the right way. Nothing to worry about.
03:09 < Casteil> CheckYourSix: Yeah, I know... I really don't need to worry as much as I do but ultimately he's the top dog
03:12 <+CheckYourSix> I wouldn't worry at all
03:26 < togen> morning
03:41 < MadCamel> aName: check craigslist .. I found a 21.5" deep 12u cab on wheels, soundproofed, for like $400
03:47 <+NinjaStyle> my back is fucked
03:48 < lasagna> why
03:52 <+NinjaStyle> idk
03:52 <+NinjaStyle> my lower back keeps spasming
03:53 <+NinjaStyle> i got my sapphire reserve card
03:53 <+NinjaStyle> looks basically the same as the sapphire preferred
03:55 < estranger> Y'all like fish sticks?
03:57 <+NinjaStyle> nah
04:08 < lasagna> All that is gold does not glitter,
04:08 < lasagna> Not all those who donger are lost;
04:08 < lasagna> The old that do dong do not wither,
04:08 < lasagna> Deep dongs are not reached by the frost.
04:08 < lasagna> From the ashes the donger shall be woken,
04:08 < lasagna> A light from the shadows shall spring;
04:08 < lasagna> Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
04:08 < lasagna> The donger again shall be king
04:08 < lasagna> -J.R.R. Tolkien
04:16 < joelazot> Hi
04:17 <+NinjaStyle> go to school
04:17 < estranger> Eat your vegetables
04:18 < estranger> Don't do drugs. It increases demand and raises prices for me
04:19 < joelazot> NinjaStyle: I am at school lol
04:19 <+NinjaStyle> get to work
04:19 < xe0n> joelazot: that's no excuse to not do drugs.
04:22 < joelazot> NinjaStyle: i'm tryin my dude
04:23 <+NinjaStyle> do math
04:23 <+NinjaStyle> not meth
04:24 < joelazot> sounds good
04:25 < L3gacy> Anyone see Wendel Tron's Linux course on UDEMY?
04:25 < L3gacy> It's 9.99 atm :)
04:32 < joelazot> Nice
04:33 <+NinjaStyle> if the glove doesnt fit, i gotta take a shit
04:37 < xe0n> glove slap
04:38 < lasagna> do you mean gnu+Linux?
04:38 <+NinjaStyle> i use leenix
04:39 < L3gacy> It's LIE nux
04:39  * L3gacy hides behind the ficus
04:40 < joelazot> im out
04:49 <+NinjaStyle> whats everyone doing tonight?
04:50 < Church-> NinjaStyle: Rewatching Altered Carbon and working on my assembler.
04:50 < Church-> Gonna go write some utilities then.
04:50 <+NinjaStyle> nice,
04:51 <+NinjaStyle> i need to code
04:52 <+CheckYourSix> Going to sleep soon. Gonna be stupidly busy the new few weeks.
04:53 <+NinjaStyle> :(
05:13 < Jekotia> CheckYourSix: That sounds morbid when you phrase it like that
05:13 <+CheckYourSix> Why
05:14 < Jekotia> NVM. I'm too tired. Inferring things where there's nothing to infer
05:24 < togen> me last night -> I should go to sleep around 10:30pm tonight. @2am fffuuucccckkkk
05:25 < Casteil> togen: haha
05:25 < Casteil> I know how you feel
05:25 < Casteil> I always say I'm going to get to bed early... end up staying up til 1-4am
05:27 < togen> its monday atm and I am suffering as a result.
05:38 < Casteil> still before midnight sunday here, I still have a chance (at going to bed at a decent ish hour)
05:39 < ebol4> todd howard is Godd Howard
05:47 <+NinjaStyle> whodat
05:47 <+NinjaStyle> new phone whodat
07:34 <+NinjaStyle> Damn Westworld was cray
07:51 < Trapdoor> https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-OLED65C8PUA-65-Inch-Ultra/dp/B079V3J3Y9
07:51 < Trapdoor> nice tv, better description
08:24 < plop> morning nerds
08:38 < xe0n> sup
08:48 < plop> hey xe0n
09:03 < xe0n> eh not much, you?
09:41 < plop> not much either
10:25 <+ihre> https://i.imgur.com/rCrqx0j.jpg awww yisss new battlestation
10:25 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 52,034 bytes
10:57 < Hatsjoe> ihre: looking good!
11:00 < binaryhermit> heh https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/16/amd_ceo_f1/
11:22 < katnip> she should have said 'no, but i'm willing to learn'
11:23 < Wannabejrsysadm> Hello Gents, anyone experience with decomissioning a WSUS server in a domain ?
11:23 < Wannabejrsysadm> how do i remove the wsus client settings that were previously pushed from GPO
11:23 < Wannabejrsysadm> can i just disable that policy in the wsus gpo ?
11:24 < Wannabejrsysadm> or can i just delete following regkey: HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
11:33 < togen> both
11:34 < togen> usually I use a CNAME DNS record so I don't care about that
11:34 < togen> wsus.domain.tld to point to <servername>
11:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> well ye
11:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> We will just stop using Wsus
11:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> as we are starting to use monitoring software n-able
11:35 < Wannabejrsysadm> it works with a probe that works as wsus kinda
11:46 < FenJai> Has anyone set up ID cards or biometrics for signing documents ? Management wants to move away from employees sign safety compliance documents with pen and paper
11:55 < niklasye> just make everyone setup gpg and sign the documents with that :)
12:07 < plop> FenJai, i saw a demo of some guys who where using the new ipads with pressure sensibility and they mesure the speed and pressure of the signature on the ipad so it is legally valid (at least in spain) can't remember the name...
12:13 < FenJai> Im thinking more when they arent on their PC niklasye. Down in a workshop, swipe an ID card or fingerprint to certify they have read the risk assessment for a machine before using it, kind of thing
13:07 < Trapdoor> RS232 will never die
13:19 < xe0n> haha
13:46 < Apooti_> mornin'
13:46 < Apooti_> any JIRA admins here?
13:47 < plop> not here
13:48 < Apooti_> phew... good riddance
13:48 < Apooti_> how about admins who have to hold the hand of a JIRA admin?
13:50 < Apooti_> tl;dr i've been tasked with setting up a JIRA instance and all that jazz - done, now i need to setup backups for the MySQL DB so that when morons delete an issue from JIRA it will be possible to recover that specific issue without rolling back the entire DB
13:50 < Nightcinder> https://www.techspot.com/amp/news/75010-nine-year-old-placed-rehab-fortnite-addiction.html
13:50 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Nine-year-old girl placed into rehab for her Fortnite addiction - TechSpot
13:51 < Apooti_> any reasonable way of doing that without setting up a 2nd instance of JIRA which can be used to import the backup DB each time?
13:51 < Nightcinder> The family also started noticing regular payments of £50 ($67) per month on their credit card, which the daughter said could be from some extras she’d paid for on Fortnite. When they confiscated the console, the girl reportedly hit her father in the face.
13:52 < Apooti_> nice
14:04 < jaelae> Move a server they say. Easy move
14:05 < jaelae> The OS is crashing on boot now
14:07 <@dbcc> lads
14:07 <@dbcc> i need your assistance
14:08 <@cryptic1> morning
14:08 < SynMonger> jaelae: whenever someone says it'll be easy I double my estimate for how long it'll take
14:08 <@dbcc> should i get a macbook retina from work or an e5580
14:08 < plop> hey
14:08 < jaelae> I mean the issue is that there’s nothing I can do
14:08 < jaelae> It’s a vendor appliance
14:14 <+giant_it_burrit> dbcc:  whose money you spending?
14:14 <+giant_it_burrit> and are you getting support
14:15 <+giant_it_burrit> id prefer the dell because i like dell and prosupport is wonderful
14:15 < Nightcinder> dbcc: are those your only options?
14:15 <+giant_it_burrit> macbooks you re stuck going to the apple store
14:15 <+giant_it_burrit> and hoping
14:15 < Nightcinder> cause the e5580 is last years model
14:15 < Nightcinder> i have a 5590 in front of me that i'm setting up for a user though, i like it, though i like the 7490 more
14:16 < Nightcinder> guessing 5580 for the full power quad
14:17 <+giant_it_burrit> i like the ability to fix a thing if i get it
14:17 <+giant_it_burrit> dell i fix
14:17 <+giant_it_burrit> mac less entusiastic to do so
14:17 <@dbcc> giant_it_burrit: im spending works money
14:17 < Nightcinder> i have an xps 15, and i give my users options of 7490 or 5590
14:17 <@dbcc> and they will support it
14:18 <@dbcc> they = the helpdesk
14:18 < Nightcinder> dbcc: you're spending works money but only have two options?
14:18 <@dbcc> yes we have a set inventory
14:18 < Nightcinder> too bad
14:18 < Nightcinder> imo the 7490 is a really really nice ultrabook
14:18 <@dbcc> 13" macbook pro, 15" macbook retina, dell e7490 and dell e5580
14:18 <@dbcc> i need performance
14:18 <@dbcc> not portability
14:18 < Nightcinder> for what
14:19 < Nightcinder> the ULV quads are pretty strong
14:19 < Nightcinder> what cpu is in the 5580?
14:19 < Nightcinder> we have a couple quad 5580's that are virtually the same as the 7490
14:19 <@dbcc> quad i7, the spec sheet for the 7490 says dual i5
14:19 < Nightcinder> give me a sec i'll tell you what i have here
14:19 <@dbcc> the spec sheet we get is not robust or informative at all
14:20 <@dbcc> i need performance since im usually going to be running an additional VM on top of my regular box
14:20 < Nightcinder> i5-7440HQ in the 5580's we have
14:20 < Nightcinder> the 7490 has an i5-8250U
14:20 < Nightcinder> which is a quad
14:20 < Casteil> <3 my fancy new i7-8750H
14:20 <@dbcc> our 5580 has an i7
14:20 < Nightcinder> the 8250u and the 7440hq are actually almost the same in performance
14:20 < Casteil> this thing is a god damn beast.. beefier than my personal desktop PC lol
14:21 < Nightcinder> not sure about the higher end
14:21 < Casteil> Nightcinder: what XPS do you have?
14:21 <@dbcc> god im so torn over this lol
14:22 < Nightcinder> Casteil: we've done this already lol
14:22 < Casteil> o.O
14:22 < Nightcinder> i have last gen i7/8/500/4k
14:22 < Casteil> ah
14:22 < Nightcinder> oops
14:22 < Nightcinder> 16
14:22 < Nightcinder> 7700hq
14:23 < Nightcinder> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QsCsNZf3/image.png
14:23 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 123,581 bytes
14:23 < Nightcinder> this is our 7490 dbcc
14:23 <@dbcc> giant_it_burrit: we arent allowed to fix our own stuff either, we give it to the HD and they do it all. they purchase all software too so not worried about buying licenses for stuff that i use on winders
14:24 < Casteil> dbcc: the macbook 15" is probably the way to go
14:24 < Casteil> assuming you're OK with osx anyway
14:24 <@dbcc> Nightcinder: i dont get access to those kind of spec sheets
14:24 < Nightcinder> i've heard sketchy things about bootcamp with the macbooks
14:24 <@dbcc> im not gonna bootcamp
14:24 <+giant_it_burrit> what do you do with your day?
14:24 < Nightcinder> dbcc: you can't ask for more info?
14:24 <@dbcc> im gonna run virtualbox or parallels
14:24 < Nightcinder> ..ok i'm confused
14:24 <@dbcc> Nightcinder: i tried and they were like "here's this link that you already have with no info"
14:25 < Nightcinder> so either machine you're not using the hose OS?
14:25 < Nightcinder> host*
14:25 <@dbcc> im going to use the host OS
14:25 <@dbcc> but im also going to be running a VM in parallel
14:25 < Nightcinder> so..which do you prefer
14:25 <@dbcc> because to connect to a certain environment i have to be connected to a VPN all day
14:25 < Nightcinder> OSX or windows?
14:25 <@dbcc> and theres no split tunnelling on it
14:25 < Nightcinder> no split tunnel?
14:25 < Nightcinder> rip
14:25 <@dbcc> not my choice
14:25 <@dbcc> not my VPN
14:25 < Nightcinder> i found a fun fact out when we set up our fortigates
14:25 < Nightcinder> our split tunnel means i can't connect to the network from home
14:26 < Nightcinder> because whoever originally set up our infrastructure at work used 192.168.1.x
14:26 <@dbcc> i'd prefer to use OSX
14:26 < Nightcinder> like an asshat
14:26 < Nightcinder> they actually forcibly changed from 10.x to 192.168
14:27 <@dbcc> but using osx does make my day to day a bit more complex in how i connect to machines through our rds gateway
14:27 < Nightcinder> too bad they won't tell you what cpu is in the 7490
14:27 <@dbcc> all i know is that its an i5
14:27 <@dbcc> and the 5580 is a i7
14:27 <@dbcc> also, i will rarely be taking the device home, it'll be locked up here at work
14:28 <@dbcc> so i dont care about portability once again
14:28 < Nightcinder> o
14:28 < Nightcinder> then get the 5580
14:28 <+giant_it_burrit> if it makes your job harder get the easier one
14:28 < Nightcinder> wait why give you a laptop then
14:28 <@dbcc> because we all need the capability to work from home
14:28 <+giant_it_burrit> there are enough things out there making it a pain
14:28 <@dbcc> but i just use a VM on my gaming desktop
14:28 < Nightcinder> dumb
14:28 <@dbcc> i turned off bitlocker and imaged it and loaded it into a VM
14:28 <@dbcc> then turned bitlocker back on kek
14:29 < Nightcinder> new macbook keyboards have a propensity to break too
14:29 <@dbcc> well im pretty sure its a 2015 macbook too which is why im kinda like ehhhh on it
14:29 < Nightcinder> wtf
14:29 <@dbcc> bc it says its still using a magsafe
14:29 <@dbcc> and not usb-c
14:29 < Nightcinder> your works spec sheets are retarded
14:29 < Nightcinder> can't even buy the 7490 with a dual core lol
14:29 <@dbcc> well i know we have a fuck ton of accessories for the older macbooks
14:30 <@dbcc> so im sure we're giving those out until they run out
14:30 < Nightcinder> lol
14:30 <@dbcc> Nightcinder: if i was a dev i could get some baller ass top of the line shit
14:30 <@dbcc> but they only give that to devs
14:30 < Nightcinder> how big's your company?
14:30 < Nightcinder> seems very..oddly run
14:30 <@dbcc> Nightcinder: very very big
14:30 < Nightcinder> ah
14:30 < Nightcinder> that would explain it
14:31 <@dbcc> yep
14:31 <@dbcc> but i have to put in for it today
14:31 < Nightcinder> dat bureaucracy
14:31 <@dbcc> i think its just a matter of its easier to manage a fleet when you homogenize it, i get why they do it that way
14:31 < asimon> Morning friends
14:31 <@dbcc> you arent fucking around with a ton of one offs and customization
14:32 < Nightcinder> right, we offer two models now and we're a pretty small company
14:32 < Nightcinder> but i keep it updated, at least.
14:32 < Nightcinder> and c levels get their own status symbol thinkpads because..reasons?
14:32 <@dbcc> Nightcinder: sounds about right
14:33 < Nightcinder> the dell runs better, battery life is better, screens way better, it's about the same weight
14:33 < Nightcinder> but damnit that x1 carbon is s l e e k
14:33 < Nightcinder> and about as useful as a paperweight
14:33 <@dbcc> well when you are a c-level its about lookz
14:34 <@dbcc> does anyone know if the latest version of windows that actually has an ssh client built in supports a /.ssh/config file/
14:34 < Nightcinder> the only c level that actually does work
14:34 < Nightcinder> has a beefy 5580
14:34 < Nightcinder> and he's only pretend c level
14:34 <@Code_Man65> dbcc:  If you have the subsystem for linux, it does AFAIK
14:34 < Nightcinder> he's the corporate controller because he won't take the CFO title
14:34 <@dbcc> cuz mobaxterm sucks at tunnelling properly
14:34 <@Code_Man65> Tunnels are blocked here
14:35 <@dbcc> we specificially have to tunnel for certain things
14:35 <@Code_Man65> Hell you can't even ssh to outside systems
14:35 <@dbcc> Code_Man65: we cant either without proxying through a gateway
14:35 <@dbcc> everything but 80 and 443 are blocked
14:35 < Nightcinder> tfw can't trust anyone
14:35 < Nightcinder> not even yourself
14:35 <@dbcc> im sure someone fucked something up
14:36 <@dbcc> and there was no auditing in place
14:36 < Nightcinder> it's like when i went to apply a small update to exchange
14:36 < Nightcinder> that then crashed
14:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
14:36 < Nightcinder> and had to roll back a day
14:36 < Nightcinder> whooooops
14:36 < Nightcinder> we don't touch exchange anymore
14:36 < Nightcinder> just leave it off in its little corner
14:37 <@Code_Man65> Nightcinder:  That's a stupid thing to do
14:37 < Nightcinder> exchange is a stupid software
14:37 <@Code_Man65> No it isn't
14:37 < Nightcinder> i don't wanna touch it anymore
14:37 < Nightcinder> someone else can touch it
14:37 <@dbcc> fuck it
14:37 <@dbcc> i think im gonna get the 5580
14:37 <@dbcc> at least theres a chance i get a new one
14:38 <@dbcc> instead of some 2015
14:38 < Nightcinder> well
14:38 < Nightcinder> with the dell model numbers
14:38 < Nightcinder> you know what you're getting
14:38 < Nightcinder> the 5580 is last years model but it's not exactly old
14:38 <@dbcc> does 5580 have discreet graphics
14:38 <@dbcc> or only integrated
14:38 < Nightcinder> uhh
14:38 <@dbcc> im pushing 4 monitors here boi
14:38 < Nightcinder> igp i believe
14:39 <@dbcc> bois
14:39 < Nightcinder> and the WD15 dock only has two monitor outputs
14:39 <@dbcc> the dock we use now is the same
14:39 <@Code_Man65> What graphics card does it have?
14:39 < Nightcinder> you'd have to have 'fun with displayport' to do it
14:39 <+giant_it_burrit> FUDGE EXCHANGE
14:39 <@dbcc> i have a usb adapter
14:39 <+giant_it_burrit> ALL CLOUD
14:39 <@dbcc> for my others
14:39 < Nightcinder> my xps will only do 3 at once
14:40 < Nightcinder> if i try to do 4 it shuts one off
14:40 <@dbcc> 3 + attached?
14:40 < Nightcinder> nope
14:40 < Nightcinder> 3 total
14:40 <@dbcc> ew
14:40 <@Code_Man65> If it's an intel graphics chip, it's integrated.
14:40 <@dbcc> i have no idea Code_Man65
14:40 < Apooti_> 3 seems to be the limit on embedded graphics
14:40 < Nightcinder> Graphics
14:40 < Nightcinder>     NVIDIA® GeForce 940MX 1020MHz 64 Bit for i5-7440HV Thunderbolt Processor
14:40 < Nightcinder> is what our 5580's come with
14:40 < Nightcinder> the beefier ones
14:40 <@dbcc> oh thats discreet
14:40 <@Code_Man65> Yes, that is
14:40 < Nightcinder> i had to look it up
14:40 < Nightcinder> it has an IGP version
14:41 < Nightcinder> and a 'discrete' version
14:41 < Nightcinder> so, ymmv
14:41 < asimon> I have a user who got a bounced email with the message "#5.1.0 Address rejected" - before I tell him its probably an incorrect email address, is there anything else on our mail config end that oculd generate that?
14:41 < Nightcinder> if it has tunnerbol i believe it's got discrete
14:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> asimon: I usually make them forward me the entire bounce
14:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> so then I can test the email too
14:41 <@Code_Man65> I just look at the server that threw the bounce error
14:42 <@Code_Man65> If it's not one of my exchange boxes, not my problem
14:42 <@dbcc> i feel like im making a worse decision picking the dell
14:42 <@dbcc> but i think its influencing me because i see the price
14:42 <@dbcc> so im like 'why would i buy a cheaper box'
14:42 < asimon> Yeah its the recipient server that threw the error
14:42 < Nightcinder> remember, tim cook is evil
14:42 <@Code_Man65> Then not your problem asimon
14:42 < asimon> Kk thanks for the sanity check
14:43 <@dbcc> fuck it
14:43 <@dbcc> getting the dell
14:44 < jaelae> Instead of a MacBook Pro?
14:44 <@dbcc> yea
14:44 < jaelae> I’d get an apple every time for a laptop
14:44 <@dbcc> jaelae: i do a lot of windows as well and most of our windows tools are created for....windows
14:45 <@dbcc> its kinda janky to do it via a macbook
14:45 < jaelae> Same here I totally get it. Though my
14:45 < jaelae> Mac I just RDP into windows machines
14:45 < jaelae> I guess it depends on job duties
14:45 < Nightcinder> idk, new macbooks since the touchbad are pretty shitty
14:45 < Nightcinder> pre-touch bar they were pretty nice
14:46 <@dbcc> jaelae: i rdp too but since we have to go through a gateway and we pull a lot of information from our internal systems to RDP, its a huge pain in the ass on mac since the tools to do that are made for windows
14:46 < jaelae> I use a Lenovo t470 for work for example but they killed our vpn
14:46 <@dbcc> our macbook images are made for devs and linux dudes
14:46 < jaelae> So I have to RDP with a web browser and I’m better off using my MacBook Pro
14:46 <@dbcc> so theres no tooling for proper RDP other than manual input
14:46 < jaelae> Can’t install Microsoft’s Remote Desktop? It’s on the App Store
14:47 < jaelae> If that stuffs locked down well,..
14:47 <@dbcc> jaelae: everything is locked down
14:47 <@dbcc> and like i said we pull a lot of info through internal tooling
14:47 < Nightcinder> someone did something stupid, now everyone is locked down as much as possible
14:47 <@dbcc> IPs, login/pass, etc.
14:47 <@dbcc> gateway settings
14:47 < Apooti_> so... any miserable souls here who have to manage JIRA?
14:47 < jaelae> Ah that’ll limit you then :/ that Dell isn’t sounding so bad
14:48 <@dbcc> yea and ill just install linux subsystem on winders
14:48 <@dbcc> and then have a linux vm for my linux'y things
14:48 < jaelae> I work on it but we consulted a company for Jira once it grew too large
14:48 < jaelae> :)
14:48 < Apooti_> jaelae, sounds good enough
14:48 < jaelae> I just RDP to work servers for everything I have nothing local it’s nice
14:48 <@dbcc> plus the macbook is a definitely a 2015 model
14:48 <@dbcc> magsafe + an hdmi port
14:49 <@dbcc> i dont want a 3 year old laptop already
14:49 < ravioli> that's the one i have
14:49 < ravioli> it's dank
14:49 < Apooti_> jaelae, did you ever have to setup database backups with the ability to recover specific tickets from the backups, without importing the entire DB ?
14:49 < jaelae> This Lenovo I have never worked with the tocuhpoint buttons so I tried opening a ticket with Lenovo and they closed th chat and said they would ship me a box
14:49 < jaelae> Lol
14:50 < jaelae> Apooti_: no if we have to restore it’s all or nothing
14:50 < Apooti_> fuck...
14:50 < jaelae> So we have a point in time where all other tickets / changes would be part of it
14:50 < jaelae> I mean that’s just how it is so we have no problems with it
14:50 < Apooti_> my boss insists on having incremental backups of the DB WITH the ability to recover specific tickets
14:51 < Apooti_> without restoring everything
14:51 < snarkadmin> (=<`#9]~6ZY32Vx/4Rs+0No-&Jk)"Fh}|Bcy?`=*z]Kw%oG4UUS0/@-ejc(:'8dc
14:51 < snarkadmin> Good morning
14:51 < Apooti_> the premise here is: "but what if someone deletes a ticket, or even worse - a project, by mistake?"
14:52 < Apooti_> and so far i was unable to explain that whoever does that needs to be an admin, so its not THAT likely, plus worst case if that ever happens we can import the backup DB into the test instance of JIRA and recover the ticket from there
15:04 <@dbcc> i went with the dell
15:04 <@dbcc> its done
15:04 < darkscrypt> elder scrolls 6!
15:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> elder scrolls 5s
15:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> elder scrolls 5 se
15:08 < Casteil> dbcc: you'll like it. the 7490s are nice
15:08 <@dbcc> i got the 5580
15:09 < Casteil> :\ the 5000 series latitudes are chunky/bulky
15:09 <@dbcc> its going to stay at work locked up
15:09 <@dbcc> dont really care
15:09 < asimon> +1 on 7490's
15:09 <@dbcc> not lugging it around
15:09 < Casteil> 7490 is also gen8 so they're all quad core
15:09 <@dbcc> pretty sure they arent the new ones
15:09 <@dbcc> because it says theres a 2 day delivery time to my desk
15:10 < Casteil> er, scratch that, apparently there are some gen7 7490s
15:10 <@dbcc> so im positive they are pulling from inventory, imaging and then giving it to me
15:10 < Casteil> doesn't mean they didn't get an initial shipment of gen8s
15:10  * Casteil shrugs
15:10 <@dbcc> Casteil: i know for a fact they aren't gen8
15:10 <@dbcc> since when they refresh they refresh the whole fleet
15:11 <@dbcc> and that hasnt happened yet
15:11 <@dbcc> since a bunch of people save up their refresh until the new shipment and that hasnt happened yet
15:11 < Casteil> I think I had a Latitude 5570 when I started here, eventually gave that up for an accounting staffer who needed/wanted the tenkey on it, I got a 7470 instead
15:11 < Casteil> then later I ended up hopping into a fancier 7470 with a touchscreen
15:12 < Casteil> and now I have an XPS 9570 w/ a hexacore i7 because I'm in software dev now ._.
15:12 <@dbcc> im pretty sure this is what im getting
15:12 <@dbcc> http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/latitude-5580/spd/latitude-15-5580-laptop/s007l558015us
15:12 <+layer-eight> * dbcc →  Latitude 15" 5580 Business Laptop | Dell United States
15:13 <@dbcc> the ports and specs seem to line up
15:13 < ravioli> McDonaldsWiFi: that's real btw
15:13 < ravioli> kinda.
15:17 < McDonaldsWiFi> ravioli: wut
15:30 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: The Gibson is real too
15:30 < DomLS3> HACK THE PLANET
15:31 < Hatter> oh good morning
15:31 < DomLS3> Hatter: kys
15:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> uhhh
15:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> wat
15:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> WOT
15:34 < DomLS3> u fuckin w0t m8
15:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> DomLS3: hi
15:38 < Hatter> alright you two, get it out of your system now, we're going to have a nice normal day
15:38 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: hai
15:38 < Hatter> no monkey business
15:38 < DomLS3> Hatter: A nice normal day of realizing what a fucktard you are
15:38 < DomLS3> yes you are correct
15:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> Hatters gonna hate
15:39 < DomLS3> Haters gonna hat
15:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> well boys
15:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> I've got an interview tomorrow in the mines lol
15:39 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: gl broham
15:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> I think i got the black lung pop
15:39 < asimon> s/boys/persons
15:39 <+layer-eight> [SED asimon/McDonaldsWiFi] well persons
15:40 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: did you just assume everyone's gender
15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> asimon how PC of you
15:40 < DomLS3> tf is wrong with you
15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> im gonna take it, but im gonna hate it
15:40 < asimon> You could have said bois and that would have been fine
15:40 < DomLS3> McDonaldsWiFi: Assuming they offer it
15:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> its mine for sure
15:40 < DomLS3> PFSENSE
15:41 < McDonaldsWiFi> nepotism is a hellva drug
15:44 < JFDkthx> did freenode die?
15:44 < JFDkthx> F
15:48 < alazare619> can anyone explain how to do host to vm in hyper-v with a dhcp
15:49 <@dbcc> wat
15:50 <@dbcc> host to vm what
15:50 < DomLS3> alazare619: wtf does that mean'
15:50 < syere> good luck on the interview McDonaldsWiFi !
15:51 < alazare619> switch
15:51 < alazare619> i.e. VM can only communicate with the host and nothing else
15:51 <@dbcc> i need you to rephrase the question better
15:51 <@dbcc> oh
15:51 < alazare619> virtualbox calls it a nat
15:51 < alazare619> vmwareworkstation calls it VM2Host
15:51 <@dbcc> set it to internal switch
15:51 < alazare619> others call it other things
15:51 <@dbcc> and put it on its own vlan
15:52 < alazare619> k then the host?
15:52 <@dbcc> what?
15:52 <@dbcc> create a vswitch and set it to internal
15:52 <@dbcc> assign vswitch to vm
15:52 <@dbcc> set vlan
15:52 <@dbcc> then vm can talk to host
15:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> hey thanks boss!
15:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> syere:
15:55 <@dbcc> internal and private switches dont get bound to a physical network interface since theres no need for one
15:55 < alazare619> so basically just set internal set vlan, bind ip to guest and then the host should be able to ping the guest but nothing else should be able to right
15:56 <@dbcc> correct there will be no exnet access with an internal vswitch
15:56 <@dbcc> only other things on that vlan and the host
15:57 <@dbcc> other things = other vms on the host
15:57 <@dbcc> why do you need the host to ping it tho?
15:58 < alazare619> theres a few nix services ill be running in docker on it
15:58 <@dbcc> its not gonna be able to communicte with anything
15:58 < alazare619> so the host will need access to  them but nothing else
15:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> i need to learn more about vswitches in hyper-v
15:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> it wasn't as nice as KVM/qemu
15:58 < alazare619> there use to exist what was called NAT
15:58 <@dbcc> are you using the docker stuff from the host?
15:58 < alazare619> and a way for 2 way communication only between the host and the VM
15:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> private vlan should do that for you
15:59 < alazare619> dbcc: yes
15:59 <@dbcc> ah ok
15:59 <@dbcc> then yea internal is the way to go
15:59 < alazare619> ok i'll give that a go
15:59 <@dbcc> well
15:59 <@dbcc> actually
16:00 <@dbcc> yea nvm internal is easier way to go
16:00 < alazare619> only issue i see is hte lack of dhcp will cause long boot with the linux guest
16:01 < alazare619> maybe ill toss up a dhcp docker
16:02 < McDonaldsWiFi> you having one of your vms act as DHCP for the internal network?
16:02 < alazare619> only have 1 vm
16:02 < alazare619> its just for some docker things for QOL on windows 10
16:04 < pcspkr> you can do nat networks with hyper-v now
16:04 < pcspkr> they added that shit for docker
16:04 < pcspkr> I believe it works as dhcp too
16:04 <@dbcc> pcspkr: its still just an internal switch
16:05 < pcspkr> sure
16:05 <@dbcc> you just assign it an ip scheme and internal address prefix
16:05 <@dbcc> and then run new-netnat
16:06 <@dbcc> but for a single VM it's just extra steps
16:06 <@dbcc> there's no dhcp functionality in either a plain internal switch or a netnat
16:07 < pcspkr> hyper-v can't do anything that would allow you to share the host's vpn with the guest
16:07 <@dbcc> hes not doing that
16:07 < pcspkr> I know
16:07 < pcspkr> just saying
16:07 < pcspkr> hyper-v is kinda shit on workstations
16:08 < pcspkr> but then again 99% of the virtualization market is servers
16:08 < alazare619> i just installed docker for windows
16:08 < alazare619> screw it :P
16:08 <@dbcc> thats a better way to do it
16:08 <@dbcc> docker for windows uses hyper-v
16:08 < alazare619> let that shit configure all the services i need
16:09 < alazare619> i previously always used vmware workstation
16:09 < alazare619> but got tired of vmware workstation acting up and after the crash that lost me my golden workstation image i used for MDT i'm moving to hyper-v
16:09 < nickster> whose familiar with zfs?
16:10 < genr8_> everyone
16:10 < nickster> could I make a mirrored vdev and later expand it by striping it with another mirror?
16:10 < nickster> like can i get just 2x8tb drives for now
16:10 < genr8_> yes
16:10 < nickster> get 2 more later on
16:10 < nickster> then stripe it for a total of 16?
16:10 < genr8_> its best working with mirrors that way any
16:10 < genr8_> anyway*
16:11 < genr8_> The RaidZ's cant be extended and you for SURE do not wanna add single v-devs
16:11 < Apooti_> nickster, if you're gonna go for any RaidZ don't expect great performance compared to hardware raid
16:11 < genr8_> mirroring it and striping another mirror you would essentially be doing a RAID 10 i believe
16:12 < Apooti_> genr8_, depends how you build it, but essentially you're correct
16:12 < genr8_> I was told not to go above 8 vdevs either
16:12 < nickster> ok but that can happen though yes?
16:13 < nickster> 2x8tb in a mirror
16:13 < nickster> then when i get another 2 drives i setup the other 2x8tb mirror
16:13 < nickster> then stripe the two mirrors
16:13 < nickster> and all my data still there
16:13 < genr8_> give me a minute to drink this coffee before i commit to saying yes to that
16:13 < nickster> kk
16:14 < nickster> cause i feel ill eventually want 16tb
16:14 < nickster> but also because it'd improve r/w speeds
16:16 < pcspkr> that's a lot of porn
16:16 < pcspkr> then again you can expand to 4k these days
16:18 < genr8_> striped mirrors are faster
16:19 < genr8_> Mirroring loses half the array to redundancy tho
16:19 < pcspkr> raid10 yolo
16:19 < DomLS3> raid10 spensive
16:19 < genr8_> So yes I commit to saying yes
16:19 < genr8_> it would be the "RAID10" situation and thats a known good config
16:20 < pcspkr> I got 8x ssd's for my hyper-v hosts that use SAN anyway
16:20 < pcspkr> shit's cash
16:21 < pcspkr> raid10 because I couldn't think of anything better
16:21 <+A-KO> god I just played overwatch with like a 5 year old kid
16:21 <+A-KO> lol
16:22 < nickster> But ye I'm wanting to build a nas box and use it for central storage for some VMs
16:22 < genr8_> I'm running 3x 2TBs in RAIDz1 and 2x 4TBs in Mirror. have another 2 4tb's that are alone and full of movies,tv,porn
16:23 < nickster> i plan to have it used primarily for the VMs
16:23 < genr8_> it was getting a bit much to have redundant porn and redundant media i could just re-stream from TV
16:23 < nickster> also does duplicity support zfs dataset backups
16:23 < nickster> and does backblaze also support it
16:24 < genr8_> probably not?
16:24 < nickster> it'd be so much easier to just backup the dataset than to worry about backing up specific things
16:24 < genr8_> I think people send it to S3
16:25 < genr8_>  with ZFS send/receive
16:25 < genr8_> https://github.com/presslabs/z3
16:25 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  GitHub → presslabs → z3 → Backup your ZFS snapshots to S3. → @ ~ 3 months ago → Python → ✡ 67 → Forks: 21 → ☹ 9
16:25 < JollyRgrs> i love me some zfs send/receive
16:25 < nickster> ye but S3 though
16:26 < nickster> damn 8tb is 184$ a month'
16:26 <@dbcc> thats not too bad
16:27 < nickster> but compared to backblaze b2
16:27 < genr8_> anyway ZFS is cool , i just can't wait for more utilities to support it and really maximize all its features
16:29 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: don't hold your breath
16:29 < genr8_> like some microsoft ZFS stuff
16:30 < JollyRgrs> i almost considered doing Glacier... I just don't know if I want to pay all that money at one time if i ever do need my files back (or wait that long as it'd need to be shipped)
16:30 < genr8_> shit i had a doctors appt at 10
16:30 < JollyRgrs> MSFT ZFS? yeah... maybe in 20 yrs
16:31 < genr8_> do they have any datacenters in the Antarctic ?
16:31 < abakedapplepie> surely
16:31 < genr8_> that would cause some "heat" surely.
16:31 < JollyRgrs> MSFT just sunk one off the coast of scotland
16:31 < genr8_> yea i heard of that. #2
16:32 < genr8_> I wanna see the inside of the first pod, see how bio-gunked up it got
16:34 < JollyRgrs> so.... replacing memory on those things must be a bear
16:34 < JollyRgrs> or a whale... or kraken or something
16:34 < genr8_> im pretty sure its all written off as soon as it goes under
16:35 < genr8_> they're lucky it wasnt a complete fail
16:35 < abakedapplepie> what failed
16:36 < felda> what I did all weekend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jSJ9BF3rlY
16:36 <+layer-eight> * felda →  YouTube → Meow Meow I'm a Kitty Cat → ⚘ 492,604 ↑ 8,636 ↓ 227 ✍ 1,293
16:37 < JollyRgrs> felda: i don't remember that one
16:38 < felda> it was from 2007 or something like that lol
16:38 < JollyRgrs> yeah
16:38 < JollyRgrs> i shoulda known it
16:38 < JollyRgrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtN1YnoL46Q
16:38 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → The Duck Song → ⚘ 342,081,781 ↑ 1,363,435 ↓ 173,363 ✍ 228,409
16:38 < abakedapplepie> i never ever saw that video, but i had a friend in college that used to refer to it constantly
16:38 < JollyRgrs> heeeyy... got any grapes?
16:38 < abakedapplepie> i think i saw it for the first time like a year ago
16:38 < Hatter> oh are we doing old memes
16:38 < Hatter> that's fun
16:38 < abakedapplepie> ugh, same with that video JollyRgrs
16:38 < JollyRgrs> hahaha
16:38 < abakedapplepie> except its my wife that knows it
16:38 < abakedapplepie> id never seen it
16:39 < abakedapplepie> shes constantly saying that too
16:39 < abakedapplepie> heeyyyy... got any grapes?
16:39 < JollyRgrs> i had a personal fav. noodles on my back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOWii6MttSA
16:39 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  YouTube → Noodles On My Back [HD] → ⚘ 27,484 ↑ 190 ↓ 3 ✍ 6
16:39 < JollyRgrs> you won't EVER forget this song
16:39 < JollyRgrs> stupid catchy, too
16:40 < abakedapplepie> oh and she says waddle waddle
16:40 < JollyRgrs> oodles and oodles of noodles, oodles and oodles of noodles
16:40 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:41 < ny0x> lol
16:43 < ravioli> too many cooks
16:44 < abakedapplepie> bastard
16:46 < Hatter> I don't know what you guys are talking about
16:48 < Atro> Do you guys combine work and personal calendars? if yes, how?
16:48 < felda> would anyone like to join my semi-pro Rocket League team?
16:49 < Atro> fuck off pfsense boi
16:49 < felda> Atro so A N G E R Y
16:50 < Atro> pls i have a love hate relationship with all firewalls
16:50 < Atro> true, it's 98% hate 2% love
16:50 < Atro> but still
16:50 < ny0x> 100% love for pfsense
16:50 < ny0x> rite
16:50 < felda> that's just because you're bad at networking
16:50 < felda> yes ny0x
16:51 < Atro> pls
16:56 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:56 < abakedapplepie> are you going pro felda
16:56 < abakedapplepie> gonna throw a pigskin clear over them mountains
16:56 < felda> abakedapplepie here's how good I am
16:57 < abakedapplepie> my buddy is actually pretty good, hes semi pro i guess
16:57 < felda> I only hit the ball into my own goal 3 times
16:57 < abakedapplepie> oh, god
16:57 < felda> JollyRgrs can attest to how good I am
16:57 < abakedapplepie> ok
16:57 < abakedapplepie> jokes, i see
16:57 < felda> maybe
16:58 < abakedapplepie> ive played rocket league like twice
16:58 < abakedapplepie> i still managed to not score on myself
16:58 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:58 < DomLS3> s/score/jizz
16:58 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/abakedapplepie] i still managed to not jizz on myself
16:59 < abakedapplepie> hey that too
16:59 < Hatter> classy as ever, DomLS3
17:00 < DomLS3> Hatter: I try not to disappoint.
17:03 < felda> Did you all see that Office 365 is getting a "new" admin panel
17:03 < felda> and by new I mean they basically changed the URL lol
17:03 < felda> instead of portal.office365.com it is now admin.microsoft.com
17:04 < abakedapplepie> its about time
17:04 < abakedapplepie> their cloud product naming is atrocious
17:04 < abakedapplepie> also found out recently that theres a portal.microsoft.com and a portals.microsoft.com
17:04 < abakedapplepie> two entirely different systems
17:05 < abakedapplepie> o.o
17:05 < felda> basically they intend to force this on everyone by the end of July
17:05 < abakedapplepie> fine by me
17:05 < felda> oh okay
17:05 < felda> and now they are rebranding things again
17:05 < felda> instead of Office 365
17:05 < earnThis> how often does everyone replace their firewall?
17:05 < felda> it is now Microsoft 365 to encapsulate all of their service
17:06 < F34RInc> earnThis, my company doesnt understand what your asking
17:06 < felda> earnThis usually you would check needs and hardware health
17:06 < khelpw> earnThis: when it stops turning on
17:06 < felda> if it is all good then you just keep chugging
17:06 < Virtual-Potato> Wait, you actually use the firewall? Mine's still in the box
17:07 < abakedapplepie> felda: the office 365 moniker has annoyed me from the second they offered anything other than office subscriptions under that name
17:07 < felda> yeah
17:07 < earnThis> felda: F34RInc ah right, so in an ideal world how often would/should you replace it?
17:07 < felda> it really confused the fuck out of my users
17:07 < felda> I would consider my firewall like a server so every 5 -7 years for my small business
17:07 < abakedapplepie> and it doesnt help that they had office 365 and outlook 365 branding
17:07 < abakedapplepie> log into o365 - which one?
17:08 < F34RInc> earnThis, legit answer - once the device is off warranty \ support  OR 3 years depending on the lifecycle of the device
17:08 < abakedapplepie> ^ thats what we do
17:08 < abakedapplepie> but our support is 3 years
17:08 < earnThis> F34RInc: hmm.. ok
17:08 < abakedapplepie> and our licensing is 3 years
17:08 < abakedapplepie> for the next gen shit
17:09 < felda> really grinds my gears because we started with Dynamics CRM and then migrated to O365 email a year later so all of my users go used to their Microsoft account as "CRM Account" and apparently just can't make the connect that their email login is the exact same :-/
17:09 < abakedapplepie> felda: they renamed dynamics to dynamics 365 too
17:09 < felda> yes they did
17:09 < felda> we are still adjusting to that rebranding lmao
17:09 < abakedapplepie> including the on premise version
17:09 < abakedapplepie> fucking retarded
17:09 < abakedapplepie> absolutely insane
17:09 < pcspkr> I run dynamics 365 on my xbox 360
17:09 < F34RInc> earnThis, have a second device ready to go or setup High Availibity if your going to run them longer than 3 years.
17:09 < felda> pcspkr at 1 FPS?
17:10 < pcspkr> yes
17:10 < abakedapplepie> i just installed dynamics 2016/365 on premise
17:10 < abakedapplepie> at lkeast they finally support sql 2016 on dynamics 2016 now
17:10 < felda> abakedapplepie have you enjoyed it?
17:10 < abakedapplepie> felda: not at all
17:10 < felda> HEUHEUHEUHEUEHUE
17:10 < pcspkr> app-v doesn't support sql > 2014
17:10 < abakedapplepie> but thats more my use case
17:10 < abakedapplepie> its not a good one
17:10 < abakedapplepie> im embarrassed to even say what im doing
17:10 < felda> enjoy your manglement shoe-horning the CRM into a monster
17:11 < abakedapplepie> we wont be using it as a crm
17:11 < felda> I've been customizing my CRM for the last 4 years
17:11 < felda> and it is now a mess
17:11 < abakedapplepie> my boss is just tired of paying for a mass mailer subscription
17:11 < abakedapplepie> and hes convinced that 365 is his mass mailing solution
17:11 < felda> LMAO
17:11 < abakedapplepie> (hint: its not)
17:11 < felda> are you joking?
17:11 < abakedapplepie> no.
17:11 < abakedapplepie> i wish i was.
17:11 < felda> what mass emailer was he using before?
17:11 < abakedapplepie> i dont know
17:12 < abakedapplepie> i really forget
17:12 < felda> Constant Contact is literally like $15 a month
17:12 < abakedapplepie> something like $60 a month tho?
17:12 < felda> A D365 license is like $90 a month now XD
17:12 < abakedapplepie> yeah so he had me stand up crm before, then pulled me off to do other stuff, then put me back on it, then off it
17:12 < abakedapplepie> its been going on for a year
17:12 < felda> I do like the creating contacts in CRM way more than managing Constant Contact lists
17:12 < F34RInc> felda, but why would I pay for a mailing service when we ALREADY pay for O365?  Same thing /S
17:12 < abakedapplepie> at one point the server just stopped working, no idea why, i wasnt the last one to use it
17:12 < abakedapplepie> all services failed, the database corrupted
17:12 < abakedapplepie> etc
17:13 < abakedapplepie> so i started over
17:13 < felda> F34RInc my money bones are hurting right now
17:13 < abakedapplepie> ive probably sunk 100 hours into installing, configuring, reinstalling, reconfiguring, and testing crm for mass mailing
17:13 < F34RInc> felda, what CRM do you use
17:13 < felda> Dynamics 365 for Sales
17:13 < felda> been using it for 5 years
17:13 < felda> back when it was CRM 4.0
17:13 < abakedapplepie> are you on prem
17:13 < abakedapplepie> or cloud
17:13 < felda> no we are on cloud
17:13 < abakedapplepie> what does your mail
17:13 < felda> so I don't get to touch the SQL server  (ಥ﹏ಥ)
17:13 < abakedapplepie> are you on 365
17:13 < dragonfleas> How'd you guys like E3?
17:14 < felda> abakedapplepie right now we use Dynamics CRM Email Router for Windows
17:14 < abakedapplepie> oh
17:14 < abakedapplepie> lawd
17:14 < ebol4> Godd Howard is my lord
17:14 < felda> but that is being depreciated in about a month
17:14 < abakedapplepie> its already deprecated
17:14 < felda> but it gets better
17:14 < abakedapplepie> its getting shut off soon
17:14 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:14 < felda> we use that to forward to hMail running on the same server
17:14 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:14 < felda> which then forwards to SendGrid
17:14 < felda> so you know
17:14 < abakedapplepie> LOL
17:14 < felda> it's complicated
17:14 < abakedapplepie> oh man
17:14 < abakedapplepie> thats liek one of my financial clients
17:15 < felda> I'm gonna be so glad once we actually switch to Exchange Sync
17:15 < felda> My boss "BUT WHAT IF WE GET OUR EMAILS BLACKLISTED?!"
17:15 < abakedapplepie> their email gets compliance archived by one service, anti spam by another service, and i think they even have one more service mail flows through
17:15 < abakedapplepie> its fucking asinine
17:15 < felda> dawg don't send out retarded emails and we won't get blacklisted
17:15 < felda> the one big thing is the unsubscribe feature
17:15 < abakedapplepie> felda: thats my fear
17:15 < abakedapplepie> my boss is going to get our IPs blacklisted
17:15 < felda> sendgrid does that automatically for us
17:15 < abakedapplepie> we have hosted exchange
17:15 < dragonfleas> TES6 is going to be great
17:16 < abakedapplepie> so its not just our internal email
17:16 < abakedapplepie> that would suffer
17:16 < felda> but now we have to get that working
17:16 < felda> abakedapplepie ooooh ouch all self hosted
17:16 < abakedapplepie> yes
17:16 < abakedapplepie> cant afford those subscription fees man
17:16 < abakedapplepie> >.>
17:16 < F34RInc> abakedapplepie, about to afford no email flow
17:16 < abakedapplepie> F34RInc i am at the point in my career
17:17 < felda> we could go back to the days where we had server 2003 SBS with exchanged forced on so they use @company.local to email internally and then godaddy POP3 to do external emails
17:17 < Nightcinder> https://electrek.co/2018/06/10/tesla-roadster-elon-musk-thruster-backseat/
17:17 < abakedapplepie> where i do what i am told and watch the world burn
17:17 < felda> was a real treat
17:17 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  Elon Musk is serious about adding thrusters to the new Tesla Roadster, the option will replace the back seats | Electrek
17:17 < Nightcinder> ummm
17:17 < DomLS3> oh look whose here.. that pfsense garbage truck driver felda
17:17 < F34RInc> abakedapplepie, wanna quit and start a BBQ food truck together
17:17 < abakedapplepie> hah
17:17 < felda> dragonfleas they showed literally no hint of gameplay please simmer down
17:17 < abakedapplepie> fuck that
17:17 < abakedapplepie> being hot and sweaty all day
17:17 < dragonfleas> felda, but it's an elder scrolls game so you know it will be good
17:17 < abakedapplepie> my buddy runs a bbq truck
17:17 < felda> you mean being JUICY all day
17:18 < dragonfleas> felda, there has not been a bad elder scrolls game yet (exclude everything that doesn't have a number attached to it)
17:18 < felda> turns out people don't like being described as JUICY
17:18 < abakedapplepie> i wonder why
17:18 < felda> I personally love that adjective
17:18 < abakedapplepie> i like moist
17:18 < felda> ^
17:18 < abakedapplepie> and plump
17:18 < felda> and succulent
17:18 < abakedapplepie> and succulent
17:18 < felda> scrumptious
17:18 < khelpw> What I took away from TES presentation was basically "We're working on it. STFU already"
17:18 < felda> abakedapplepie if you have questions about Dynamics 365 let me know
17:19 < felda> I'm kind of an expert
17:19 < felda> except for the SQL part :(
17:19 < felda> MS is a super jerk and won't let me touch our online SQL server
17:19 < felda> also online storage is MAD expensive yo
17:19 < felda> $10 a month for 1GB of storage
17:20 < abakedapplepie> i would rather sql be a black box
17:20 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:20 < abakedapplepie> id rather crm be a black box too, but, such is life
17:20 < felda> you wouldn't when Microsoft tech support is literally a garbage bag full of squirrels
17:20 < felda> Have you ever heard 2 indian tech supports argue on the phone about System Jobs and Processes?
17:20 < dragonfleas> Has anyone had SFC /scannow actually fix anything? lmao
17:21 < Nightcinder> yes
17:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> like once lol
17:22 < DomLS3> felda: don't need microsoft tech support if you're not a pleb
17:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> can i do sfc /scannow on my life
17:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> "found 10389 problems, kys"
17:23 < felda> DomLS3 lmao you do when Microsoft creates a glichy product and then won't let you touch the back end to fix server freezes and oversized databases
17:23 < DomLS3> felda: shouldn't have went cloud brah
17:23 < DomLS3> on prem ftw
17:23 < felda> "Hey our SQL server is frozen so now our CRM just times out and won't save records"  Yeah sure we'll look into that in 4 hours
17:24 < felda> on prem costs too many dollars my dude
17:24 < DomLS3> on prem does not cost more than cloud lol
17:24 < DomLS3> if it doesm you're doing it wrong
17:24 < DomLS3> s/sm/
17:24 < DomLS3> wtf
17:24 < DomLS3> stupid fuckin layer-eight
17:25 < F34RInc> abakedapplepie, I agree with you on the let it burn method
17:25 < felda> abakedapplepie how much did you shell out just for the on-prem license for Dynamics 365?
17:25 < abakedapplepie> well
17:25 < abakedapplepie> its a technet key
17:25 < abakedapplepie> so $0
17:25 < felda> LMAO
17:25 < abakedapplepie> :)
17:26 < abakedapplepie> this is my life felda
17:26 < abakedapplepie> i broke my promise to my self this weekend
17:26 < abakedapplepie> i promised i would get my resume out into the ether
17:27 < DomLS3> felda: I have on prem Dynamics 2010
17:27 < felda> but why tho
17:27 < abakedapplepie> update that shit
17:27 < DomLS3> abakedapplepie: we are.. soon
17:27 < DomLS3> felda: because we own it.... no monthly cost, no added licensing fees, and it just fuckin works?
17:27 < felda> we have literally 1 server here and I don't really like the prospect of running D365 on my DC
17:28 < abakedapplepie> we run all of our 30-40 VMs on a single hypervisor D:
17:28 < pcspkr> run it on your pfsense?
17:28 < abakedapplepie> and its got like slightly-above-baseline xeons on it
17:29 < abakedapplepie> the thing crawls
17:29 < DomLS3> abakedapplepie: that's cancer
17:29 < abakedapplepie> DomLS3 my job is cancer
17:29 < abakedapplepie> i could write a book about all the awful things here
17:29 < abakedapplepie> i just smile and pretend they dont exist
17:29 < voidstar> you and that guy who has a server for every application should talk
17:29 < abakedapplepie> i mean, we pretty much have single servers for everything
17:30 < abakedapplepie> thats microservices right? :D
17:30 < JFDkthx> holy sheeeeeet
17:30 < JFDkthx> is it friday
17:30 < abakedapplepie> i wish
17:30 < voidstar> don't give hope till wednesday
17:30 < voidstar> you know the rule
17:30 < scwizard> what's the difference between a aws_autoscaling_policy and a aws_appautoscaling_policy
17:30 <+giant_it_burrit> i broke reddit
17:30 < scwizard> https://www.terraform.io/docs/providers/aws/r/autoscaling_policy.html https://www.terraform.io/docs/providers/aws/r/appautoscaling_policy.html
17:30 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  AWS: aws_appautoscaling_policy - Terraform by HashiCorp
17:30 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  AWS: aws_autoscaling_policy - Terraform by HashiCorp
17:30 < abakedapplepie> giant_it_burrit why would you do that
17:32 <+giant_it_burrit> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ShQ7LsXY/Screenshot%20from%202018-06-11%2011-30-23.png
17:32 <+layer-eight> * giant_it_burrit →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 37,422 bytes
17:32 < Heresiarch> scwizard: looks like the latter interfaces with redis/aurora/ECS for autoscaling, while the former just scales instances.
17:32 < scwizard> thanks Heresiarch
17:32 < scwizard> man my brain really not working
17:38 <+giant_it_burrit> did it ever really work tho?
17:38 < servchan> `seen mofo cryptic1
17:38 <+layer-eight> Seen →  cryptic1 Saying morning via Log on #reddit-sysadmin 4 hours ago
17:39 <@cryptic1> morning
17:39 < servchan> Moaning
17:39 < DomLS3> cryptic1: back to work
17:39 < servchan> put the work on your back
17:40 < DomLS3> put your back into work
17:40 < servchan> hah
17:40 < JFDkthx> oh man is anyone excited for elder scrolls 6 in 3 years
17:40 < DomLS3> JFDkthx: No. We are adults not children who play games
17:40 < servchan> Arena of Valor on da phone yo
17:40 < JFDkthx> DomLS3: lies
17:40 < JFDkthx> ur barely passable for a vegetable.
17:40 < JFDkthx> much less an adult
17:42 < grumplestiltzkin> JFDkthx: I was excited about Elder scrolls 6 like you, until I took an arrow to the knee
17:42 <@Code_Man65> I should kick you for that grumplestiltzkin
17:42 < JFDkthx> dont kick him in the knee
17:42 < servchan> gaming too much is a disability did you know that?
17:43 < JFDkthx> servchan: isnt it specifically gaming addiction
17:43 < grumplestiltzkin> <3
17:43 < servchan> no they converted it into a disability JFDkthx
17:44 < br14> I got a piece of paper thanking me for being dumb enough to work here for 15years. I spent the weekend updating my resume.
17:45 < servchan> that's a long time br14 it seems stable?
17:45 < servchan> 1 year is my tops
17:45 < servchan> lol
17:45 < SynMonger> I just passed 10 years at my job
17:45 < mrghostman> be 14 year for me on 7/1
17:46 < mrghostman> years*
17:46 < Casteil> damn
17:46 < Casteil> hope they treat you well
17:46 < Casteil> usually in IT you have to job hop to be making a damn
17:46 < servchan> ^1
17:46 < DomLS3> pfsense
17:46 < DomLS3> Code_Man65 do your fkn job
17:46 < mrghostman> it is in higher ed, so i could make more in corp, but it is laid back here
17:47 < servchan> get that dolla every raise
17:47 < grumplestiltzkin> 10 years for me too
17:47 < SynMonger> same here
17:47 < Casteil> I've been at this company for a bit over 2 years now
17:47 < SynMonger> the pay isn't great, but the insurance is paid for, lots of vacation and looooow stress
17:48 < mrghostman> the retirement here is also killer
17:48 < SynMonger> we've only got 403B
17:49 < JFDkthx> esnesfp Code_Man65
17:49 < Casteil> paid insurance is nice.
17:49 < scwizard> SynMonger: it's so hard to put a $ value on having a job where people don't yell at you all the time or argue constantly
17:49 < Casteil> that's one big caveat of my current company
17:50 < scwizard> (disagreeing is different from arguing)
17:50 < Casteil> the insurance sucks ass to the point where it's cheaper to just get a plan on the healthcare market
17:50 < Casteil> so I pay $220/month for catastrophic plan that doesn't really do shit for me until I'm basically dying
17:50 < Casteil> $6000 deductible or something ridiculous
17:50 < scwizard> i'm just going without insurance right now tbh
17:51 < Casteil> so even with insurance if something serious happened I'd be in financial trouble
17:51 < scwizard> for a bit i was thinking i should get a shoulder MRI
17:51 < Casteil> that's what shelling out >$2500/yr gets me!
17:51 < scwizard> and I was looking "hmm how much are MRIs in mexico?"
17:52 < SynMonger> there's only 150 employees here, so you know everyone after awhile. It's hard to yell at someone unless you're the scorched earth type
17:55 < sideup66> Rump
17:55 < sideup66> Make murica roast again
17:55 < sideup66> :)
17:59 < estranger> damnit my google AND okta expired on the same day... re-authing is a PITA
18:02 < bmurt> don't use mfa and no issues estranger
18:02 < bmurt> so much easier
18:02 < estranger> great idea!
18:02 < br14> aye yes I work in higher-ed.  pay sucks but vacation and culture are win.
18:03 < grumplestiltzkin> Without going into the content - predictit.com has a bunch of bets for Korea - like if there will be a Trump/Kim whitehouse meeting in 2018  (yes is trading at 32, no at 68 right now) for example
18:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> can we bet on how long it takes for felda to reach full meme
18:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> where his DNA is digitized into an old pfsense box
18:07 < ThatOneRoadie> I'll volunteer him to have all neurons scanned and input into a big pfsense cpu
18:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> but not a legit pfsense unit
18:08 < McDonaldsWiFi> like a shit dual core duo from your closet
18:09 < abakedapplepie> my first pfsense box was a 650mhz pentium 3
18:09 < estranger> i can supply the distributed db needed to store all the neuron info at real time
18:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> my pfsense box has an i5... it never goes over 1% lol
18:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> yes, let's make this happen
18:09 < ravioli> lol
18:09 < ravioli> you people
18:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> he needs a friend thoguh, can't have him lonely in pfsense world
18:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> we should digitize sideup66 too
18:10 < ravioli> so naieve
18:10 < grumplestiltzkin> hm.  predictit is mostly wagering on politics.   If felda can politics meme, they might add it
18:10 < ravioli> do you think you are the first to have this idea?
18:10 < ravioli> and why do you think it hasn't already been done?
18:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> plot twist
18:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> we are in a pfsense simulation
18:11 < ravioli> now you begin to see
18:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> how do i escape
18:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> sensai
18:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> sensei*
18:11 <+giant_it_burrit> use dns
18:11 < ravioli> felda is one of the nicknames that pfsense uses to populate irc channels
18:12 < sideup66> Wut
18:12 < ravioli> ravioli is another. cryptic1 is another. as is CheckYourSix and giant_it_burrit.
18:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> i am
18:12 < sideup66> felda is eternal
18:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> pfsense
18:12 < ravioli> in fact, McDonaldsWiFi
18:12 < sideup66> felda McDonaldsWiFi stole the ne
18:12 < ravioli> we are all pfsense except you
18:12 < sideup66> Meme
18:12 < sideup66> Felda.io
18:12 <@cryptic1> what about Code_Man65
18:12 <@cryptic1> he is pfsensi
18:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> sideup66: been to felda.io in a while?
18:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> sideup66: if not, then don't. for your heart will be crushed
18:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> on the first day, felda created pfsense
18:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> and it was meh
18:13 < DomLS3> felda.io got nixed
18:13 < Heresiarch> looks better than it used to...
18:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> Heresiarch: pwn
18:14 < sideup66> Is it still dead McDonaldsWiFi
18:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> deader than your sex life
18:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> huehuehuehue
18:14 < sideup66> Sadly very true
18:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> just get married
18:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> same shit
18:15 < servchan> or cityvibe it
18:15 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:15 < servchan> ehheh
18:16 < servchan> that .com will make you .cim
18:19 < DomLS3> https://www.hugebuttholes.com/ looking nicer
18:19 <+layer-eight> * DomLS3 →  Home of #reddit-sysadmin
18:23 < sideup66> Lol
18:23 < jaelae> Starting a diet today
18:24 < jaelae> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WTDGW4Py/IMG_3266.JPG
18:24 <+layer-eight> * jaelae →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 93,553 bytes
18:24 < jaelae> Smart choices see
18:24 < felda> I'm back with lunch
18:24 < ravioli> i wanna try white castle
18:25 < felda> got me some Bourgeois King
18:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: seize the means of consumption
18:26 < felda> 2 original chicken sandwiches and 2 small fry for $4.99
18:26 < jaelae> It’s good
18:27 < ravioli> i've never even seen a white castle building
18:27 <+giant_it_burrit> so many new good games coming
18:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> overrated
18:27 <+giant_it_burrit> i cant wait
18:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> unless you like a shit load of onion cooked into your beef
18:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> yuck
18:27 < jaelae> It looks like a castle
18:27 < jaelae> Ignore McDonaldWiFi he is bias
18:27 < jaelae> You can say no onion
18:28 < ravioli> i'm doing this great diet where i don't eat anything and starve myself.
18:28 < jaelae> Hobo diet
18:29 < felda> ah
18:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> jaelae: they have frozen ones without onion?
18:29 < felda> I see ravioli is on the PROLETARIAT DIET
18:29 < DomLS3> ravioli: do a little meth and that diet will be perfect
18:29 < grumplestiltzkin> ravioli: no pasta?
18:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> this changes everythin
18:29 <@cryptic1> ravioli, subbing booze for food does not count as a diet
18:29 < lukexj> What Phones do you guys use? and with Stock android or custom roms? im fixin to get a new phone and wanted to use a custom rom on it
18:29 < felda> ravioli you want to be pro Rocket Leaguer with me?
18:29 < ravioli> grumplestiltzkin: i still fit pasta in sometimes.
18:30 < ravioli> cryptic1: yeah there were a number of months where most days most of my caloric intake was beer.
18:30 <@Code_Man65> I think you mean you stuff it in sometimes ravioli
18:30 < ravioli> god i want pasta right now
18:30 < DomLS3> pfsense
18:30 < ravioli> felda: i would if my internets didn't suck
18:30 < DomLS3> about god damn time
18:31 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: what is your internet?
18:31 < tapoxi> rip net neutrality
18:31 < ravioli> cell phone hotspot
18:32 < ravioli> bandwidth is fine. latency isn't.
18:32 < tapoxi> it officially dies today
18:32 < JollyRgrs> ravioli: EGADS!
18:32 < Apep> Hello mateys, Anyone aware of any issues connecting to Reddit from UK? Or is it just the wet piece of string BT call my fibre access...
18:32 < DomLS3> tapoxi: as long as I still get porn without having to pay for it, idgaf
18:32 < felda> ravioli what happened?
18:32 < JollyRgrs> Apep: if you have moisture in your fiber... then i'd def. say that
18:32 < felda> i thought you were 420 pro internet dawg
18:33 < JollyRgrs> felda: you gonna start playing RL more now?
18:33 < felda> yeah I'll try
18:33 < abakedapplepie> i want pasta
18:33 < grumplestiltzkin> Ajit has wares, if you have coin
18:33 < abakedapplepie> i promised my pasta guy id bring him a copy of microsoft publisher the next time i came in
18:33 < abakedapplepie> but i cant find any licenses
18:33 < abakedapplepie> i can never get pasta again
18:33 < felda> JollyRgrs couldn't even handle me.  I scored on his goal twice... While he was on my team XD
18:34 < pupp3r> i want to have a pasta guy
18:34 < JollyRgrs> hahaha
18:34 < abakedapplepie> unless someone else has a publisher key sitting around
18:34 < tapoxi> Apep: what did you say I dont speak england
18:34 < abakedapplepie> pls restore my pasta guy
18:34 < jaelae> Well I forgot that I’m not a huge White Castle fan
18:34 < Apep> I'll dig out the hair dryer again then, less static than putting it in the dryer with my undercrackers
18:34 < pupp3r> does he publish articles about pasta?
18:34 < jaelae> But the construction guys behind me are whistling to the Taylor Swift song
18:34 < tapoxi> Apep: reddit is down 4 me
18:34 < technonerd> Whistle while you twerk
18:34 < abakedapplepie> pupp3r: wouldnt surprise me
18:34 < abakedapplepie> idk
18:35 < abakedapplepie> hes a FOB italian
18:35 < pupp3r> probably mafia tbh
18:35 < pupp3r> you better get that key fast
18:35 < abakedapplepie> makes bulk pasta for all the big italian restaurants here and operates a small to go counter
18:35 < abakedapplepie> onestly, wouldnt surprise me
18:35 < abakedapplepie> dude came here fresh off the boat and opened a legit pasta making enterprise
18:35 < abakedapplepie> all the equipment is high end
18:35 < tapoxi> whats the SW mean
18:35 < pupp3r> smells like mafia to me
18:36 < ravioli> that man is my hero
18:36 < abakedapplepie> me too
18:36 < tapoxi> abakedapplepie: 'legit'
18:36 < abakedapplepie> hes also incredibly nice
18:36 < pupp3r> i bet ravioli has a pasta guy too
18:36 < abakedapplepie> ive forgotten my card in the past
18:36 < ravioli> i am a pasta, guy.
18:36 < abakedapplepie> he just gives me the food
18:36 < pupp3r> why eat the pasta when you can become the pasta i guess
18:36 < tapoxi> what are the top 3 best pastas
18:36 < vinrock> yo
18:37 < vinrock> if you havent seen it yet
18:37 < abakedapplepie> pasta is pasta
18:37 < vinrock> the dog eats butterfly video is pretty funny
18:37 < abakedapplepie> its about the saus
18:37 < pupp3r> fettucini w/ alfredo my dude
18:37 < abakedapplepie> carbonara > alfredo
18:37 < tapoxi> wrong spaghettios is #1 pasta
18:37 < pupp3r> chef boyardee*
18:37 < vinrock> luv those deer shit meatballs
18:37 < tapoxi> its not real pasta unless you can taste the can
18:38 < genr8_> FUCK. my comcast speed tests are down to 94MBps  (was 230-240ish) and i pay for the 200 plan
18:38 < pupp3r> tfw you live in canada and 94 sounds pretty nice :/
18:38 < vinrock> i started getting phone calls from comcast trying to sell me faster speeds
18:38 < vinrock> and then ofc now my speeds are shit
18:38 < Heresiarch> genr8_: eastern time?
18:39 < grumplestiltzkin> the funny thing about that - my wife went to Italy for a month in college. She went to these little mom&pop restaurants all over, a lot in florence.  She said the 'home cookin' sauce tasted amazingly like chef boyardee
18:39 < tapoxi> I get gigabit for $70/mo
18:39 < tapoxi> RCN is the shit
18:39 < genr8_> yes
18:39 < vinrock> yeah grumps i hear that the sauce (er... gravy...?) is kinda whack
18:39 < abakedapplepie> grumplestiltzkin sounds like your wife has an awful pallate :P
18:39 < Heresiarch> genr8_: give it an hour or two. Lots of eastern time is on lunch break.
18:39 < abakedapplepie> s/ll/l
18:39 <+layer-eight> [SED abakedapplepie] grumplestiltzkin sounds like your wife has an awful palate :P
18:39 < vinrock> buddy of mine just got back from milan
18:39 < vinrock> and the pizzas are different
18:39 < vinrock> like
18:39 < vinrock> poofy
18:39 < ThatOneRoadie> <3 Dell CoPilot support
18:39 < genr8_> interesting theory. hope its that.
18:39 < ravioli> i had ravioli in milan
18:39 < tapoxi> greek pizza > italian pizza
18:40 < ravioli> you shut your mouth
18:40 < DomLS3> get on my level peasants: https://i.imgur.com/ryV7jxg.png
18:40 <+layer-eight> * DomLS3 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 172,056 bytes
18:40 < vinrock> i wana try the brick oven poofy pizza
18:40 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: well, debatable - but I mean, who hasn't gone to a 'legit' italian restaurant here?    like - compare that
18:40 < Apep> what...
18:40 < JollyRgrs> DomLS3: that ping though?
18:40 < JollyRgrs> 8ms? kinda high don't you think?
18:40 < grumplestiltzkin> tapoxi: srs.  little known secret
18:40 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:40 < DomLS3> JollyRgrs: not really
18:40 < JollyRgrs> if i get more than 2-3ms to my speedtest, i'm upset
18:40 < vinrock> where the fuck you find a speedtest.net server than can do gigabit
18:40 < ThatOneRoadie> DomLS3, scrub! http://www.speedtest.net/result/7382946573.png
18:40 <+layer-eight> * ThatOneRoadie →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 21,564 bytes
18:40 < vinrock> every one i try maxes at like 550
18:40 < JollyRgrs> att gigabit here
18:40 < DomLS3> ThatOneRoadie: ouch
18:40 < JollyRgrs> vinrock: and yeah, ditto
18:41 < ibttis> hello got a problem, hibernate and swap are not working on xfce distros that I've been using I have a swap partition that's double the size of my ram
18:41 <@Code_Man65> I've also got AT&T gigabit, it rocks
18:41 < ibttis> and for some reason it still doesnt work
18:41 < abakedapplepie> my ping is 25 rip
18:41 < JollyRgrs> i can only really test cap of my network on the ATT's own speedtest
18:41 < grumplestiltzkin> And greek pizzas are usually better after you let them cool down just a tad, vs 'eat right away' italian style
18:41 < Heresiarch> vinrock: if your ISP doesn't cheap out and puts an ookla box on their net, it can max out gig.
18:41 < vinrock> fios gigabit here
18:41 < vinrock> it rocks
18:41 < ThatOneRoadie> DomLS3, I get more upload than download with xfinity
18:41 < ThatOneRoadie> that's unheard of!
18:41 < ThatOneRoadie> :o
18:41 < abakedapplepie> my 100/100 is testing at 98/45
18:41 < abakedapplepie> D:
18:41 < DomLS3> ThatOneRoadie: I usually get more upload than download on my gigabit as well
18:41 < vinrock> fast.net can pull the full gig, the verizon one is kinda shitty, tyhe google one can do it
18:41 < vinrock> but speedtest.net havent found one that can go over 550
18:42 < DomLS3> vinrock: nashville server did it for me
18:42 < abakedapplepie> fast.com*
18:42 < vinrock> cool leme see if i can hit it
18:42 < ThatOneRoadie> I mean, my record is a 0ms ping https://i.imgur.com/x4vRKlt.png
18:42 <+layer-eight> * ThatOneRoadie →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 22,797 bytes
18:42 < grumplestiltzkin> gottagofast
18:42 < ThatOneRoadie> older test tho
18:42 < genr8_> i only have 1 viable speedtest.net and the fast.com works great for me. usually was able to pull 240+ reliably on my 200 connection. now both sites confirm 92-94Mbps
18:42 < abakedapplepie> wat
18:42 < abakedapplepie> 0?!
18:42 < ThatOneRoadie> 0!
18:42 < abakedapplepie> were you colo'd at your ISP? lol
18:42 < ThatOneRoadie> yep
18:42 < ThatOneRoadie> hahahaha
18:43 < genr8_> hahah
18:43 < abakedapplepie> thats cheating lol
18:43 < grumplestiltzkin> fast.com "powered by netflix"
18:43 < ThatOneRoadie> the speedtest server was literally two rooms over
18:43 < ThatOneRoadie> so it went out to the savvis router in the mdf
18:43 < ThatOneRoadie> then back in to the other DC
18:43 < ThatOneRoadie> lol
18:43 < ThatOneRoadie> I think the actual rtt was something like 0.244ms
18:43 < genr8_> oh fuck savvis they are the worst
18:43 < vinrock> well, nashville was the fastest one i hit so far on speedtest @ 608
18:43 < vinrock> not bad i guess coming from jersey
18:44 < abakedapplepie> my favorite screenshot is from when i maxed the oc48 in university in the dorms
18:44 < abakedapplepie> they had NO QOS/filtering
18:44 < abakedapplepie> haha
18:44 < genr8_> Comcast @ Plainfield is my fastest
18:44 < genr8_> NJ
18:44 < vinrock> how the hell did you max an oc
18:44 < ThatOneRoadie> abakedapplepie, We used to give every room at my uni 100/100 on a pile of OC lines
18:44 < ThatOneRoadie> also every room got a public IP
18:44 < ThatOneRoadie> because we had a class B and why the fuck not
18:44 < ThatOneRoadie> we literally dhcp'd class B addresses on the wifi
18:44 < ThatOneRoadie> it was awesome
18:44 < abakedapplepie> my uni had one oc for the whole campus
18:45 < abakedapplepie> they did the same thing tho
18:45 < abakedapplepie> every dorm had a public
18:45 < ThatOneRoadie> then we ran out when the cell wifi exploded
18:45 < abakedapplepie> im SURE things have changed by now
18:45 < ThatOneRoadie> oh yeah
18:45 < JollyRgrs> i loved it when i found a DirectConnect share from someone at those schools :)
18:45 < abakedapplepie> this is a remote university so the oc48 was a big deal
18:45 < vinrock> 530 to comcast @ plainfield nj
18:45 < grumplestiltzkin> ThatOneRoadie: all on 1 VLAN?   hory shit, the broadcast
18:45 < vinrock> and that server is like
18:45 < vinrock> 1 mile from me
18:45 < ThatOneRoadie> we had it vlan separated grumplestiltzkin
18:45 < vinrock> v0v
18:45 < ThatOneRoadie> it was subnetted out
18:46 < ThatOneRoadie> but still pretty awesome to hand out a public IP on dhcp
18:46 < ibttis> hello is there a reason why hibernation doesnt work on any xfce distro that I've tried so far?
18:46 < ThatOneRoadie> right up until the first time we had >15,000 at a football game
18:46 < abakedapplepie> and as a result of every student having a public address, filesharing was brutally and effortlessly prosecuted
18:46 < genr8_> our UNI did that also
18:46 < abakedapplepie> my dorm roommate downloaded solidworks on my computer over break
18:46 < abakedapplepie> that was not fun
18:46 < ThatOneRoadie> the first game after we stood up a new cisco wifi system at the stadium it crashed
18:46 < ThatOneRoadie> because we ran out of dhcp addresses
18:46 < ThatOneRoadie> lol
18:47 < ThatOneRoadie> And that was when we got new NAT installed
18:48 < genr8_> how come most shit is still using IPV4
18:48 < asimon> genr8_: Same reason python 2 is still around
18:49 < genr8_> ugh
18:49 < genr8_> i really hope nobody makes new python2 projects though
18:49 < genr8_> people are making new IPV4 lan's all the time tho
18:50 < grumplestiltzkin> until IPv4 starts being an option that you enable specifically, and IPv6 is the default,  it probably will continue that way
18:51 < grumplestiltzkin> for home gear anyway
18:51 < ravioli> i just wish ipv6 wasn't so ugly.
18:52 < abakedapplepie> plenty of people still develop on python 2
18:52 < sideup66> felda: why did felda.io die
18:52 < abakedapplepie> its probably not going to change
18:52 < felda> because cryptic1 killed it
18:52 < Casteil> got I feel exhausted today
18:53 < vinrock> radio station has callers telling stories abou their dogs that would eat weird stuff
18:53 < vinrock> this guy now found out his dog was an alchoholic
18:53 < vinrock> heh
18:53 <+NinjaStyle> my friend just told me about his dog eating birds
18:54 <+NinjaStyle> eats a bird, and everyone is like nah he cant catch a bird, then like 5 mins later he pulls a second bird out of a bush
18:54 <+NinjaStyle> theyre like wut
18:54 < genr8_> his dog is a cat ?
18:54 <+NinjaStyle> dog
18:54 < scwizard> i was about to say that too
18:54 < vinrock> we had a badass outdoor dog when i was akid and outdoor dogs were still a thing
18:55 < vinrock> lotta dead birds in his leashe range
18:55 < genr8_> damn wow
18:55 < genr8_> he just snap em outta the air ?
18:55 < vinrock> he must have, i remember always finding them
18:55 < Casteil> speaking of critters
18:55 < genr8_> gd i wanna see that
18:55 < Casteil> I've got a chipmunk problem @ my house
18:55 < Casteil> not in my house
18:55 < genr8_> you go plinking yet?
18:55 < Casteil> but by god the little fuckers dig and destroy my landscaping
18:55 < ravioli> which one of you broke reddit
18:56 < Casteil> genr8_: Nah, pellet gun comes tomorrow
18:56 < Casteil> I had a pellet rifle at one point but my grandpa ended up asking for it to take care of some pests
18:56 < Heresiarch> ravioli: I blame the new layout.
18:56 < Casteil> haven't gotten it back again yet
18:56 < Casteil> so I just ordered my own :P
18:57 < vinrock> did you get a fancy pellet gun
18:57 < Casteil> not super fancy, but one of the most tried & true
18:58 < vinrock> wat kind
18:58 < Casteil> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TEACB4U (apparently they've been making pretty much the same gun for nearly 50 years)
18:58 < vinrock> ah the classic
18:58 < catbeard> *sigh* xorddos mirai neutralized
18:58 < vinrock> you can get those modded to be pretty badass
18:58 < Casteil> vinrock: yeah
18:58 < Casteil> I think the only thing I might do is get a shoulder stock for it
18:59 < Casteil> I don't need a scope and a ridiculous barrel or $200 in upgrades to take out chipmunks from <30ft
18:59 < Casteil> stock will help stabilize aim though :P
18:59 < vinrock> http://mountainaircustomairguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/1320-1.jpg
18:59 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 80,993 bytes
18:59 < genr8__> oh wow. rebooting the PFsense box got me back up to 240mbps. thats the first time that happened....
19:00 < Casteil> nice, totally unnecessary barrel "porting" though lol
19:00 < grumplestiltzkin> if a stock is an option, a stock is probably the answer
19:00 < vinrock> heh yeah
19:00 < felda> what did you do genr8__ ??
19:00 < genr8__> had slow speeds. rebooted pfsense. got faster speedtests.
19:00 < vinrock> i have an rws model 52 in .22 im lookin to upgrayyed from
19:00 < genr8__> it had 22 days uptime
19:01 < genr8__> upgrayyyyyde
19:01 < Casteil> mine will probably just end up like this.. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gkRDkT18lYs/maxresdefault.jpg no frills, and still fairly compact with the stock
19:01 < felda> you must have done goofed something
19:01 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 103,373 bytes
19:01 < abakedapplepie> disregard pellets
19:01 < abakedapplepie> acquire gunz
19:01 < Casteil> abakedapplepie: guns aren't stealth
19:02 < Casteil> I don't think my neighbors would be too happy if I used my 45-70 on chipmunks
19:02 < vinrock> here casteil for ideas
19:02 < vinrock> https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2010/06/the-amazing-customizable-crosman-1377.html
19:02 < grumplestiltzkin> whatever is behind the chipmunk either
19:02 < syere> Casteil, ever consider some of the new hunting grade airsoft stuff?
19:02 < vinrock> airguns of arizona is a legit ass airgun shop
19:02 < Casteil> syere: lol, like I said I don't need fancy crap
19:02 < Casteil> this was a $55 solution to the problem at hand
19:02 < vinrock> hunting grade airsoft wat
19:02 < Casteil> the 1377s are tack drivers
19:03 < grumplestiltzkin> why in the world would you use airsoft to hunt?
19:03 < vinrock> yeah
19:03 < abakedapplepie> i hunt squirrels with my model 1851
19:03 < syere> vinrock: they make airsoft that you can go deer hunting with now
19:03 < abakedapplepie> neighbors love me
19:03 < vinrock> wat
19:03 < grumplestiltzkin> syere: lolno
19:03 < genr8__> deer? thats gotta be a joke lol
19:03 < Casteil> golf balls are an easy hit within 20 yards assuming you're a good enough shooter
19:03 < syere> 100% serious
19:03 < grumplestiltzkin> 100% not
19:03 < genr8__> what do you gotta get em in the eye ?
19:03 < grumplestiltzkin> also 100% not legal
19:03 < vinrock> right in the brown starfish from point blank
19:04 < syere> yea... it is...
19:04 < grumplestiltzkin> most states have minimum calibers
19:04 < Casteil> abakedapplepie: discharging a firearm within like X00 feet of a neighbor's house is a good way to get arrested
19:04 < abakedapplepie> i could see it with a special pellet from like 10 feet
19:04 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:04 < abakedapplepie> Casteil: define firearm
19:04 < vinrock> problem with airsoft pellets is round ball is inherintly unstable
19:04 < abakedapplepie> 1851 is a powder gun
19:04 < vinrock> thats why pellet guns shoot diabolos
19:04 < abakedapplepie> :)
19:04 < JFDkthx> vinrock: tell that to golf
19:04 < grumplestiltzkin> syere: link?
19:04 < Casteil> abakedapplepie: that would be considered a firearm
19:04 < syere> grumplestiltzkin: acquiring now. the ammo isn't the little bb sized stuff you are used to
19:05 < vinrock> i dont think that'd really be considered airsoft at that point
19:05 < grumplestiltzkin> if it isn't using a soft plastic BB, it isn't airsoft
19:05 < abakedapplepie> airsoft != bb
19:05 < abakedapplepie> or pellet
19:05 < Casteil> well, technically maybe not, but you'll still get treated as if you were discharging a firearm
19:05 < felda> I probably shouldn't be telling you this but JFDkthx sells pop-rocks under the table to supplement his weak helpdesk job
19:05 < abakedapplepie> Casteil: there are very, very few restrictions on powder guns
19:06 < abakedapplepie> i love that thing though
19:06 < abakedapplepie> its messy as all hell to fire
19:06 < abakedapplepie> takes foreever to load
19:06 < abakedapplepie> but its fun as shit
19:06 < Casteil> and you will still get arrested for discharging one within X00 feet of a neighbor's house
19:06 < JFDkthx> felda: first off. theres nothing wrong with selling pop rocks. secondly i have a STRONG helpdesk job who dont need no man
19:06 < syere> grumplestiltzkin: you are correct, they are not called airsoft. they are called PCP Air Rifles.
19:06 < grumplestiltzkin> s/have/am
19:06 <+layer-eight> [SED grumplestiltzkin/JFDkthx] felda: first off. theres nothing wrong with selling pop rocks. secondly i am a STRONG helpdesk job who dont need no man
19:06 < vinrock> whatchu mean powder gun
19:06 < Casteil> You cannot discharge a firearm within 500 feet, crossbow within 250 feet or longbow within 150 feet of any school, playground, occupied factory or church, dwelling, farm building, or structure unless you own it, lease it, are an immediate member of the family, an employee, or have the owner's consent.
19:06 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: think muzzleloader
19:06 < vinrock> oh
19:06 < felda> That candy your youngsters have been getting from "somewhere"??? It was actually JFDkthx selling candy out of his VAN!
19:07 < abakedapplepie> you pack powder and a projectile
19:07 < abakedapplepie> the 1851 is a 5 shot revolver with a packing mechanism built in
19:07 < vinrock> yeah i thought he was talkin bout some fancy airsoft
19:07 < abakedapplepie> so you keep your powder horn
19:07 < abakedapplepie> etc
19:07 < vinrock> neato
19:07 < abakedapplepie> its messy because you seal the barrel with butter
19:07 < JFDkthx> felda: it's a comfort civic, not a van
19:07 < abakedapplepie> to keep water out
19:07 < asimon> Man I look away for like 10 minutes to restart my computer and already nobody is working
19:07 < Casteil> ...butter?
19:07 < vinrock> thompson center makes muzzleloaders you can now load the charge from the breech
19:07 < abakedapplepie> yes
19:07 < Casteil> why not wax
19:07 < vinrock> sdo you just ram the bullet
19:07 < abakedapplepie> there are purpose built things sure
19:07 < abakedapplepie> but they cost money
19:07 < abakedapplepie> butter is super cheap
19:07 < abakedapplepie> and does the same thing
19:07 < Casteil> one would think butter may degrade the performance of the powder
19:08 < abakedapplepie> the butter never touches the powder
19:08 < abakedapplepie> butter goes outside the ball
19:08 < abakedapplepie> to keep moisture out
19:08 < JFDkthx> abakedapplepie: one might think that
19:08 < Casteil> butter when liquified can flow just about anywhere
19:08 < Casteil> as with most oils
19:08 < vinrock> you can uh
19:08 < felda> OH FUCK ME
19:08 < JFDkthx> except water
19:08 < abakedapplepie> i suppose, yes, its jut how i was taught
19:08 < Casteil> aaaaaaaaaaaanyway I've got a meeting soon... bbl
19:08 < JFDkthx> oil cant go into water
19:08 < felda> an ice cream and yogurt shop is opening right next door to my office
19:08 < felda> please save me
19:08 < JFDkthx> which is a UNIVERSAL SOLVENT
19:08 < vinrock> jam paraffin wax in the skirt of a diabolo and if you have like a spring piston rifle it'll diesel and ignite
19:08 < scwizard> i just can't figure out where a cloudwatch metric is associated with a app autoscaling policy ahh
19:08 < JFDkthx> unlike oil
19:09 < Casteil> abakedapplepie: just how it's a good idea to store firearms oiled, but not have your ammunition exposed to oil
19:09 < vinrock> super sketchy but kinda rad
19:09 < syere> grumplestiltzkin: https://www.airgundepot.com/large-pest-hunting-air-rifles.html
19:09 <+layer-eight> * syere →  Large Game Hunting |  Airgun Depot
19:09 < JFDkthx> felda: just member the mountain dews
19:09 < Casteil> oil can ruin primers and powder
19:09 < abakedapplepie> every time ive shot the thing
19:09 < abakedapplepie> has been within 15 minutes of loading
19:09 < abakedapplepie> so its never been an issue
19:09 < vinrock> syere i want an airforce texan in .32
19:09 < abakedapplepie> i suppose if you wanted to carry a powder pistol
19:09 < abakedapplepie> maybe forgo the butter for wax
19:09 < JFDkthx> good thing if you're not in the revolutionary army then
19:09 < abakedapplepie> right
19:09  * Casteil is still waiting on his Sig P365 :(
19:09 < Casteil> anyway gotta run, adios
19:09 < felda> JFDkthx I haven't had a soda since April 1st, 2017
19:09 < felda> FITE ME DIABEETUS
19:10  * Casteil watches felda die of cancer instead
19:10 < JFDkthx> it will bite your leg
19:10 < JFDkthx> and you'll never feel it
19:10 < genr8__> i think i gave myself teh diabeets from too much mountain dew
19:10 < felda> lmao
19:10 < JFDkthx> rip ernest borgnien
19:10 < felda> not lmao at your beetus
19:10 < felda> but genr8__ get your A1C tested
19:10 < felda> for realsies
19:10 < scwizard> ok cloudwatch triggers them
19:10 < felda> it can silently consume you
19:11 < JFDkthx> felda: what was the first sign, did your dick get huge
19:11 < JFDkthx> cuz i have that problem right now
19:11 < JFDkthx> and i want to make sure it isnt the beetus
19:11 < felda> being tired
19:11 < felda> being hot all the time
19:11 < felda> weird taste in your mouth
19:11 < felda> peeing often
19:11 < felda> pee smelling weird
19:12 < felda> eyesight going out
19:12 < JFDkthx> 5/6 isnt bad
19:12 < JFDkthx> im still good
19:12 < grumplestiltzkin> syere: looks like big-bore air rifles - but seriously, for deer - unless it's an exotic, like Axis deer, theres usually an archery season, then regular hunting season.  IIRC blackpowder can go during archery, but not sure.    Air rifles - man, *really* check local laws before using one to take a deer.   Varmints though, hell yeah.  much quieter
19:12 < felda> losing feeling in your outer limbs specifically fingers and toes
19:12 < felda> the problem is the signs are VERY easy to ignore
19:13 < felda> if you drink more than 1 soda a day you probably have diabetes
19:13 < syere> grumplestiltzkin: I didn't say they were the best thing to go hunting with, simply that you *could* :)
19:13 < mrghostman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNu1I9r_1A
19:14 <+layer-eight> * mrghostman →  YouTube → Wilford Brimley Diabeetus Remix → ⚘ 968,173 ↑ 3,978 ↓ 219 ✍ 663
19:15 < grumplestiltzkin> .357 air rifle is probably also a bit overkill for chipmunks.    man.. I whot a whitetail with a 9mm once, I had defense ammo in there,  I shot through th eback, and it blew the front right quarter off.   The rest tasted fine though.
19:15 < grumplestiltzkin> not whitetail, cottontail
19:15 < grumplestiltzkin> bunny
19:15 < syere> kinda surprised there was any left
19:15 < abakedapplepie> wow
19:16 < abakedapplepie> ave really went off the deep end with his latest video
19:16 < abakedapplepie> fuckin lol
19:16 < JFDkthx> whichin
19:16 < JFDkthx> the one where he doesnt talk?
19:17 < vinrock> yeah i put that on and was like
19:17 < abakedapplepie> yeah
19:17 < vinrock> i waited for this?
19:17 < JFDkthx> i thought it was good.
19:17 < abakedapplepie> oh im laughing my ass off
19:17 < vinrock> hes been slacking on vidyas lately
19:17 < vinrock> i want more boltr's
19:17 < JFDkthx> just a different type of comedy
19:18 < abakedapplepie> hes definitely poking fun at people that do no-talk "how to" videos that just point at things with their hands
19:18 < abakedapplepie> but karate chopping brass stock and raiding the wifes panty drawer
19:18 < abakedapplepie> fuckin lol
19:24 < Alternity> cryptic1: it would be nice if there was a link to https://www.reddit.com/r/SysAdminBlogs/ on the sidebar like there is for it career questions
19:24 <+layer-eight> * Alternity →  Blogs, News and Info on Technologies Related to the art of Systems Administration
19:24 < Alternity> links to the other popular it subs like netsec wouldn't be a bad idea either
19:24 < JFDkthx> Alternity: no one cares about your computer cookies that you made this weekend
19:25 < Alternity> you probably prefer raisin cookies
19:25 < JFDkthx> i love oatmeal raisin cookies :3
19:25 < Alternity> gtfo
19:25 < onicrom> oatmeal chocochip is where its at
19:26 < mrghostman> oatmeal raisin cookies and vanilla ice cream is the bomb dot com
19:26 < abakedapplepie> has anyone even maintained r/sysadmin in the last 5 years
19:26 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:26 < onicrom> raisins are gross
19:26 < onicrom> period
19:26 < asimon> you're wrong
19:26 < vinrock> fuck everyone that gives out the little raisin boxes on halloween
19:27 < asimon> what
19:27 < onicrom> vinrock: ++
19:27 < asimon> those are delicious!!
19:27 < JFDkthx> im not telling you to go eat raisins
19:27 < JFDkthx> just that oatmeal raisin cookies are #1
19:27 < asimon> I'll trade you my milk duds for those boxes
19:27 < MillerBOSS> Last I heard r/sysadmin was being outsourced to India then slowly being turned off.
19:27 < asimon> any day
19:27 < onicrom> #1 at bring gross
19:27 < onicrom> lol MillerBOSS
19:27 < vinrock> you're the kid id rob on the bike path
19:27 < MillerBOSS> ;)
19:27 < JFDkthx> MillerBOSS: having to train the /r/sikhadmin
19:27 < abakedapplepie> racist
19:27 < MillerBOSS> Yeah so?
19:28 < MillerBOSS> ;)
19:28 < JFDkthx> dont u fukkin winky face me
19:28 < JFDkthx> u shit
19:28 < MillerBOSS> Don't look at me then.
19:28 < JFDkthx> ;)
19:28 < onicrom> you not the captain ?
19:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> look at me
19:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> im the captain now
19:32 < vinrock> man i love the trucker forums
19:32 < catbeard> when i saw that scene i was like ya fagit now you gotta drive the ship, gfl
19:32 < JFDkthx> this morning went from everything is on fire to. this is fine.
19:32 < vinrock> I walked into the bathroom at the Peelot in Drums, PA one day and was greeted with the sound of water running. Didn't think much of it at first, until I noticed it was running across the floor. When I seen the turd floating across the floor to the drain, I decided that was enough for me.
19:32 <+giant_it_burrit> fuck these people, we need a sip address.
19:32 <+giant_it_burrit> we dont spend that kind of money with webex
19:32 <+giant_it_burrit> you clods
19:32 <+giant_it_burrit> REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
19:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> giant_it_burrit: can you tone it down to like... 13 E's instead of 14
19:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> ty
19:33 <+giant_it_burrit> McDonaldsWiFi:
19:33 <+giant_it_burrit> come to discord
19:33 <+giant_it_burrit> play  a game
19:33 <+giant_it_burrit> with me
19:33 < ravioli> discord sux
19:33 <+giant_it_burrit> in voice
19:33 <+giant_it_burrit> see if 14E's isnt toned down
19:33 < JFDkthx> McDonaldsWiFi: dont do it
19:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
19:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> hahahaha
19:34 < JFDkthx> ravioli: thats just because you're not in my discord.
19:34 < JFDkthx> we're a 0 meme discord
19:34 < felda> lmao
19:34 < JFDkthx> only 100% silence
19:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> i haven't been there in a while, doc said I was in remission
19:34 < JollyRgrs> no
19:34 <+giant_it_burrit> sounds shitty
19:34 < estranger> oof
19:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> if I come back ill just get cancer again
19:34 < JollyRgrs> discord really sucks
19:34 < catbeard> it's not the ownership it's the service
19:34 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: then go back to rogerwilco
19:34 < felda> hey all we should go back to skype
19:34 < JFDkthx> old man
19:34 < catbeard> your medium sucks
19:34 < JollyRgrs> last 2 days we've had two different people with problems... discord detects voice, their person lights up green, but no one else sees/hears
19:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> we should all go back to IRC
19:34 <+giant_it_burrit> JollyRgrs: dont you think McDonaldsWiFi should come to discord and get yelled at?
19:34 < catbeard> and if ostensibly only useful for meme posting
19:34 < JollyRgrs> they both had to hit "reset audio settings" then it worked
19:34 < estranger> god i hate skype on my mac.. they update the webapp every so often and it takes me like 2 hours to get it to work
19:34 < felda> McDonaldsWiFi IRC isn't even that good
19:34 < estranger> "skype for business"
19:34 < catbeard> irc is well known
19:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: pfsense isn't even that good
19:35 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: yes, he needs to listen to 10 hrs of giant_it_burrit
19:35 < catbeard> at least to us
19:35 < felda> McDonaldsWiFi that's just a flat out lie
19:35 < estranger> McDonaldsWiFi, your new HQ is awesome btw
19:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> estranger: what
19:35 < catbeard> disco-RD just makes it so n00bs can play too
19:35 < felda> for gaming voice chat we could all use HAM radios :D
19:35 < catbeard> we could, if we all had HAM operator licenses
19:35 < JollyRgrs> or we could just use roger wilco
19:35 < JollyRgrs> i loved that app
19:35 < JFDkthx> i just fucking
19:35 < estranger> McDonaldsWiFi, McDonald's just moved into a new HQ and its waaaay nicer then their old digs
19:35 < catbeard> or longwave
19:35 < JFDkthx> u fucker JollyRgrs
19:35 < felda> > we could use Google Hangouts amirite guys?
19:36 < JollyRgrs> only problem is, RW wasn't good enough quality to be able to hear the candian accent
19:36 < felda> lmao
19:36 < JFDkthx> i had RW from deltaforce 2
19:36 < felda> cryptic1 really has that southern drawl of the north
19:36 < JFDkthx> in all honesty we should be using xfire
19:36 < JollyRgrs> being i had a 384k upload at the time and could have 4 others connected to me WHILE I was still gaming...
19:36 <@cryptic1> oh i do
19:36 <@cryptic1> very very north
19:36 <@cryptic1> extremely north
19:36 < JollyRgrs> running a MOH:AA server at the same time though, it cut into the count a bit
19:36 <@cryptic1> eh felda
19:36 < estranger> remember when 19.2k modems came out? IMPOSSIBLE speeds over a phone line!
19:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> estranger: oh lol
19:37 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: i miss xfire
19:37 < servchan> cryptic1 likes to ride north all the way up
19:37 <@cryptic1> btw felda it was fun playing BF1 with you this weekend
19:37 < JollyRgrs> as in like... before MTV bought it out (viacom)
19:37 < felda> ye
19:37 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: i do too. i miss the frans i had on it.
19:37 < estranger> McDonaldsWiFi, sorry ill always relate you to McDonalds corp
19:37 < JollyRgrs> i missed the game integrations
19:37 < JollyRgrs> "click on user to join server"
19:37 < felda> cryptic1 you missed out on my Rocket League play
19:37 <+giant_it_burrit> cryptic1 said a nice thing about felda? THE WORLD IS OVER
19:37 < JollyRgrs> i can't even do that in steam or Origin :(
19:37 < catbeard> mumble was good with game integration
19:37 < asimon> Why is cnet still so bad
19:37 < catbeard> and audio z-depth integration
19:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> we need to go back to bulletine boards on packet radio
19:37 < JollyRgrs> catbeard: i don't mean those integrations
19:37 < estranger> my next meeting there Ill go "Hey I know your Wifi!" and they will just look at me funny
19:37 < MillerBOSS> Because of CBS
19:37 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: discord has rich presence and integration in games nowadays.
19:38 < JollyRgrs> yeah, i don't like that stuff
19:38 < estranger> McDonaldsWiFi, fido net
19:38 < JFDkthx> automagically puts you in channels with people on your team
19:38 < ravioli> discord sux
19:38 < JollyRgrs> i just want to click on a user and say join server and join into their server
19:38 < JollyRgrs> lol
19:38 < JollyRgrs> JFDkthx: that's kinda cool
19:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> estranger: yssss
19:38 < JFDkthx> JollyRgrs: i dont use it, but it's there
19:38 < JFDkthx> i dont want to hear anyone other myself in my own headphones
19:39 < JFDkthx> 20 minutes
19:39 < JFDkthx> then my ass is going home
19:41 < MillerBOSS> But I want to hear you bbe
19:43 <+giant_it_burrit> who the hell requires sip to connect a webex
19:43 <+TuxedoJack> Sick fucks, that's who
19:44 < asimon> Wait when I get home do yall wanna play shellshock live
19:44 < JFDkthx> nty
19:44 < JFDkthx> im good
19:44 < asimon> JFDkthx: I didn't even mean you
19:44 < JFDkthx> fuk u then
19:45 < asimon> no u
19:45 < JFDkthx> name people instead of saying yall
19:45 < JFDkthx> you dolt
19:45 <+CheckYourSix> So, dumb question, but if I want to use an old laptop instead of a VM as my primary DC, is it impossible for the laptop to take over the name "dc01" that the VM currently uses?
19:45 <@Code_Man65> CheckYourSix:  Why the hell would you WANT to do that?
19:46 < JFDkthx> `homelab`
19:46 < catbeard> why not use laptop as BDC then switch over
19:46 <+CheckYourSix> Cause why not? dc01 as a physical machine and dc02 as a VM
19:46 <+CheckYourSix> BDC?
19:46 <+CheckYourSix> Oh backup
19:46 <@Code_Man65> Old NT4 term
19:46 <@Code_Man65> I would recommend against putting a dc on a device that can VERY easily walk out the door
19:47 < catbeard> i think that's the purpose
19:47 <@Code_Man65> From a technical perspective, sure you can do it.  From a sanity check perspective, HELL no
19:47 <+CheckYourSix> Homeland...
19:47 <+CheckYourSix> Homelab
19:47 < JFDkthx> `lucky
19:47  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at JFDkthx, and spins (6 slots remaining)
19:47 <+layer-eight> *click* - Looks like you get to live another day JFDkthx
19:47 <+CheckYourSix> Stupid autocorrect
19:47 < catbeard> CheckYourSix: freudian slip
19:47 < catbeard> ToP Keks
19:48 <+CheckYourSix> It's not production. It's more of I want everything to be able to Auth even before the R710 comes online. And if I have to shut it down, both of my DCs are on it as VMs. No HA at home
19:48 < JFDkthx> rodc?
19:49 <+CheckYourSix> ?
19:49 < JFDkthx> read only
19:50 <+CheckYourSix> What about it? I'm a Microsoft noob, so...
19:52 <+CheckYourSix> Or are you saying make the laptop a backup DC that's read only?
19:52 < Casteil> making a laptop a DC? O.o
19:52 < Casteil> here's hoping we're talking about home gamer stuff..
19:53 <+CheckYourSix> It's all homelab.
19:53 < Casteil> ok lol
19:53 < Casteil> short answer is, there is no short answer
19:53 <+CheckYourSix> What would hunterkll do...
19:54 < grumplestiltzkin> CheckYourSix: you'd probably be OK using the laptop as a peer DC - I wouldn't put any FSMO roles on it though
19:54 < grumplestiltzkin> assuming actual home use
19:55 < grumplestiltzkin> and maybe one other physical box
19:55 <+CheckYourSix> I know this isn't ideal. And in practice I'd never do it this way. But I don't have any other physical boxes and this is sitting around, so why not make use of it for homeland...
19:55 <+CheckYourSix> God damn auto correct
19:56 <@Code_Man65> CheckYourSix:  Why not have Hyper-V installed on your desktop and have a vm on it that is running server core as your dc?
19:56 < admiralspark> FOR THE HOMELAND
19:56 < grumplestiltzkin> well, realistically, a lot of people use an all-in-one box for home, just have local creds for your hypervisor and storage, and youll probably be fine
19:56 <+CheckYourSix> Code_Man65: Hadn't thought of that
19:58 <+CheckYourSix> But still, why not use the laptop? Just because it can get stolen?
19:58 <@Code_Man65> That is a better solution IMO
19:58 <+CheckYourSix> I'm asking why because I'm noob
19:58 <@Code_Man65> It also is more likely to fail CheckYourSix
19:59 <@Code_Man65> Your desktop should be more resilient than a laptop
20:00 < genr8__> just cause he has a laptop probably
20:01 <+CheckYourSix> I'll try it and see
20:13 < asimon> Yikes. I'm looking back at some code I wrote last year before I discovered linting and learned any best practices
20:13 < asimon> Talk about spaghetti
20:13 < asimon> At least I commented frequently
20:15 < genr8__> how many of you guys have that 1 best friend you grew up with who thinks he knows as much as you about computers but really they just use windows to browse reddit and maybe use teamviewer or RDP and have never compiled a program or like done anything advanced since like 2005
20:16 < Heresiarch> genr8__: I dunno about best friend, but I know of plenty of managers like that. :)
20:16 < genr8__> everytime I tell him "hey i did something like setting up this or that server" he thinks he knows everything
20:17 < genr8__> meanwhile i know he's not done it.
20:17 < genr8__> he just treats "yeah but i could do that if i wanted" as equivalent to all the hands on experience im teaching myself
20:18 < bomb> so i'm reading this book titled 'UNIX and Linux System Administration Handbook'
20:18 < genr8__> he uses Nagios to flag tickets in a datacenter and thinks hes hot shit
20:18 < bomb> it's going all good, but i feel i need another one too
20:19 < bomb> can you recommend a book for linux sysadmining?
20:20 < Heresiarch> bomb: go grab an RHCSA study guide.
20:21 < felda> Today in Felda News at 4:20 we a bombshell story
20:22 < admiralspark> bomb: which edition of the book do you have?
20:22 < genr8__> on the edge of my seat here
20:22 < admiralspark> That one is good, but you'll want to build a homelab next instead of just looking for another book
20:22 < felda> Our secret informant Code_Man65 has given us SHOCKING insider news that shows alazare619 was the ghost writer for Despacito sung by Justin Bieber
20:22 < bomb> admiralspark: fifth edition
20:22 < admiralspark> ahh, good
20:22 < felda> also did you guys see this thread?  https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/8pud8b/psa_red_shell_spyware_holy_potatoes_were_in_space/
20:22 <+layer-eight> * felda →  [PSA] RED SHELL Spyware - "Holy Potatoes! We’re in Space?!" integrated and removed it after complaints : Steam
20:23 < bomb> admiralspark: can you give me more details about the "homelab"? i'm using linux on my PC for 12 years. should i buy routers and stuff too?
20:24 < agent_white> Afternoon folks
20:24 < alazare619> God damnit felda no one was suppose to know about my Puerto Rican heiritage
20:25 < Heresiarch> bomb: set up a VPS or some instances in Amazon. If the latter, make sure you turn down/delete everything when you're not using it.
20:25 < bomb> Heresiarch: i'm grabbing this one: https://www.amazon.com/RHCSA-Linux-Certification-Study-Seventh/dp/0071841962/
20:25 < Heresiarch> ++
20:25 < admiralspark> of that entire list felda , KSP is the only game I have that runs it. And that only because I owned it before the studio sold out
20:25 < alazare619> reddit cdn is having issues
20:26 < felda> admiralspark technically it's only spyware but still :(
20:26 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VxSyDN6F/image.png
20:26 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 77,867 bytes
20:26 < genr8__> VPS on Vultr or digitalocean or something
20:26 < genr8__> plus PFsense router at home
20:26 < bomb> heh
20:26 < admiralspark> felda: he has a point though, there's no need for a game I paid $60 for to track and datamine me on top of the game itself
20:26 < genr8__> plus another box you can wipe and install hypervisors on
20:26 < alazare619> why cant pfsense port their god damn kernel to arm
20:26 < genr8__> then just a buncha routers or managed switches
20:26 < admiralspark> alazare619: they have?
20:26 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: i broke it earlier
20:26 < alazare619> i wana run an espressobin with pfsense
20:26 < bomb> can't i just use virtualbox/vmware?
20:26 < Heresiarch> alazare619: they did. SG1000
20:26 <+giant_it_burrit> didnt you see
20:27 < genr8__> alazare619: i just saw that thread today
20:27 < admiralspark> but they have to produce it for each arm variant
20:27 < alazare619> i've known of the espressobin for awhile
20:27 < genr8__> Espressobin doesnt work with pfsense ?
20:27 < admiralspark> it's not like x86 where the base is ubiquitous and the extra features are modular
20:27 < alazare619> just been waiting for arm support so i can pfsense my nas ;)
20:27 < Heresiarch> bomb: because no one uses vbox for anything except desktop vms (and even then, not much anymore), and vmware isn't as useful for a linux admin as AWS.
20:27 < felda> genr8__ they are looking to make espressobin work with pfsense but currently I don't think so
20:27 < admiralspark> genr8__: right, because it's not porting for "arm", its porting for "arm_specific_subfamily" that they need to do
20:28 < admiralspark> sg3100 is armel too, and it runs fine
20:28 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: All of my linux boxes are vmware vm's :P
20:28 < admiralspark> depends on the enviro
20:28  * felda is no longer friends with pfsense.  Cisco is now felda's best friend  
20:29 < Heresiarch> admiralspark: fair enough, though KVM might be a bit more useful for someone trying to learn.
20:29 < felda> QEMU is bae
20:29 < admiralspark> Heresiarch: agreed. Proxmox specifically would be a good learning hypervisor, so you can do KVM and LXC
20:29 < felda> IOMMU GROUPING IS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
20:29 < admiralspark> then move on to cool shit like docker, k8s, etcx
20:30 < genr8__> just get as many physical boxes running as possible
20:30 < admiralspark> felda: you are such a nerd
20:30 < darkscrypt> honestly redshell doesn't look all that bad
20:30 < genr8__> Virtualizing your pfsense as your main internet connection will just get annoying everytime you reboot
20:31 < felda> admiralspark I was trying to be a super nerd and run a Windows gaming KVM off of Ubuntu and pass through my GPU using PCI Passthrough, but my motherboard has bad IOMMU groups so my PCI lanes share lines with my CPU and north bridge ;_;
20:31 < genr8__> virtualization is totally the way. its just a matter of how
20:31 < sideup66> felda: why is pfsense meme ded
20:31 < sideup66> Why
20:32 < sideup66> Y u do dis
20:32 < admiralspark> felda: you can't map the gpu address to the vm directly though? Isn't that how those machines normally work?
20:32 < felda> genr8__ two servers running pfsense 1 and pfsense 2 using the high availability packages to do load balancing when you reboot one of the machines
20:32 < genr8__> didnt think of that
20:32 < felda> admiralspark no with QEMU/KVM you specify which IOMMU group to pass through and if your hardware is nice all of the pieces are split up.  but my hardware is dumb so when you passthrough a group everything in that group goes with it
20:33 < felda> so if USB ports 1 and 2 are in a group but 3 and 4 have their own you would always pass 1+2 even if you only wanted port 1
20:33 < bomb> linux sysadmin certs are too expensive :(
20:33 < felda> It's kinda goofy with USB controllers
20:33 < catbeard> experience is forever
20:33 < catbeard> and free
20:33 < felda> but yeah PCI lanes should be easier but they aren't :(
20:33 < Heresiarch> catbeard: ++
20:34 < sideup66> Felda
20:34 < admiralspark> lamesauce. I was thinking you'd have a separate north and south bridge but I didn't realize the whole damn iommu group has to be mapped
20:34 < genr8__> the IOMMU group splitting is motherboard specific and sometimes sucks ass
20:34 < felda> yeah that was my problem :(
20:34 < felda> I WAS GOING TO LIVE IN THE FUTURE
20:34 < felda> but my own hardware killed my dreams
20:34 < genr8__> you need relatively recent hardware
20:34 < admiralspark> isnt there a subreddit dedicated to doing the gpu passthrough to windows thing
20:35 < genr8__> yeah
20:35 < Heresiarch> bomb: start giving yourself projects that you can do at home. Put these on a resume (outside of your professional job exp). Either that, or start developing infra code and put your repos on your resume.
20:35 < felda> genr8__ yeah my hardware is in the beginning DDR3 generation :(
20:35 < genr8__> Wendell from level1tech linux youtube guy thing is doing something where he writes to the 2nd GPU's memory framebuffer directly over IOMMU
20:35 < darkscrypt> honestly, all the stuff about redshell just seems over exaggerated. they aren't doing much more than a typical tracking cookie
20:35 < genr8__> and then supposedly the linux machine will be able to render it out
20:35 < genr8__> idk how to really explain it
20:36 < genr8__> its not done yet tho
20:36 < felda> this is my home PC if anyone wants to gander
20:36 < felda> https://pcpartpicker.com/user/felda/saved/FVVFf7
20:36 <+layer-eight> * felda →  Home Computer - felda's Saved Part List - Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core, Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X, Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower - PCPartPicker
20:36 < genr8__> https://medium.com/@dubistkomisch/gaming-on-arch-linux-and-windows-10-with-vfio-iommu-gpu-passthrough-7c395dde5c2
20:36 <+layer-eight> * genr8__ →  Gaming on Arch Linux and Windows 10 with VFIO/IOMMU GPU Passthrough
20:36 < felda> it is missing my 2 x 2TB media drives tho
20:36 < alazare619> felda:  http://espressobin.net/forums/topic/pfsense/
20:36 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  pfSense - Marvell ESPRESSObin
20:37 < alazare619> gonzo already has a working(ish) port
20:37 < felda> alazare619 are espressobins cool?
20:37 < alazare619> once official drops i'll likely pick up an espressobin to replace my edgerouter litex
20:37 < felda> I've never used ARM hardware before
20:37 < ravioli> I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
20:37 < bomb> Heresiarch: i'm a programmer, actually. would building sysadmining tools be beneficial for sysadmin positions?
20:37 < admiralspark> alazare619: why dont you just install pfsense on the erx board?
20:37 < genr8__> Looking Glass: What is looking glass? It is a program that uses DXGI (or NvFBC if you're on Quadros or better on Nvidia) to directly capture what is displayed on a video card in a windows virtual machine and then display that on a QEMU/KVM Linux Host in near real-time.
20:37 < alazare619> you cant
20:38 < khelpw> Anyone have an issue lately where windows 10 PCs are getting boot looped after say last Thursday or so?
20:38 < khelpw> Not happening on my local network, but my company is getting a lot of reports of boot-looped W10 desktops.
20:38 < Heresiarch> bomb: it's not about building sysadmin tools per se, but rather building code with existing tools for infrastructure-as-code or configuration management. Some scripts won't go amiss either.
20:38 < genr8__> do they have Toshiba or Samsung SSD's ? there was some issue with them
20:39 < khelpw> Possible, any info on that genr8__?
20:39 < felda> admiralspark ER-X is a MIPS processor
20:39 < Heresiarch> alazare619: that thread is hilarious. They really don't seem to know who gonzo is...
20:39 < felda> ER-X Processor
20:39 < felda> Dual-Core 880 MHz, MIPS1004Kc
20:39 < admiralspark> oh
20:39 < khelpw> Gonzo as in muppets, or Dr. Gonzo?
20:39 < genr8__> New Windows 10 April 2018 Update build: Microsoft fixes Intel, Toshiba SSD crashe
20:39 < bomb> Heresiarch: i see, thanks. gonna look into Ansible
20:40 < rootsudo> Took today off
20:40 < admiralspark> felda and alazare619 just realized it's mips haha...
20:40 < felda> khelpw don't look into gonzoponcho it's just a sad state of affairs
20:40 < genr8__> khelpw: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/227922/20180520/microsofts-latest-windows-10-update-bricks-some-pcs-how-to-roll-back-to-previous-version.htm
20:40 <+layer-eight> * genr8__ →  Microsoft's Latest Windows 10 Update Bricks Some PCs: How To Roll Back To Previous Version | Tech Times
20:40 < rootsudo> Guess I'm not going to be working for the company long 😂
20:40 < rootsudo> Fucking hell man, being an o365 admin sucks if you have to go to the office daily
20:40 < genr8__> it even lists a KB number
20:40 < alazare619> Heresiarch:  one of hte biggest tools of pfsense in both senses
20:40 < alazare619> Heresiarch:  he does ALOT to help pfsense...but also is a complete asshat
20:41 < admiralspark> ^^
20:42 < genr8__> khelpw: there was also a conflict with Avast antivirus
20:42 < khelpw> Hrm, that's certainly possible. I'll inquire with the next one that comes by.
20:42 < alazare619> if espressobin can run pfsense i'll likely have 2 SBC's in my homelab here soon
20:42 < khelpw> Can confirm that some instances have occurred on PCs without any antivirus though
20:42 < Heresiarch> alazare619: somewhat. I can understand why, in a lot of cases. There's a surfeit of "OMG Y NO PFSENSE ON THIS OBSCURE $30 BRICK I BOUGHT ON EBAY!" out there. Taking the piss out of these folks is understandable, especially given how much they actually contribute to what they're asking for.
20:42 < alazare619> Espressobin + pfsense for my router, and Helios 4 for my NAS
20:42 < alazare619> Heresiarch:  agreed
20:43 < felda> alazare619 do you have pihole or something like that sitting in front for content control?  I'd imagine pfBlockerNG on espressobin hardware would be sluggish
20:43 < alazare619> but some of his responses are...well could be more tactfull
20:43 < vinrock> yo one of you guys with a macbook
20:43 < vinrock> do the power adapters handle 110-240v input
20:43 < alazare619> IMO pfsense needs to hire a PRfirm...
20:43 < Heresiarch> alazare619: ...gonzo vs. Theo de Raadt. No contest. XD
20:43 < genr8__> yes. everything with computers supports 110-240 pretty much
20:43 < felda> alazare619 they have a PR assistant I think but Gonzo keeps rearing up
20:43 < alazare619> felda:  i have pihole currently running on a debian VM but i do have a rpi3
20:44 < felda> never tried pihole
20:44 < felda> can you plop it in front of your LAN instead of having to put it in front of WAN?
20:44 < alazare619> pihole is a dns sinkhole
20:44 < felda> ah okay
20:44 < alazare619> so you set dns forwarding to it and it reaches out to hte internet and filteres out dns requests
20:45 < genr8__> can't that be done as a package on a pfsense ? why isnt it?
20:45 < felda> I don't know if I should run pihole in front of my work production network, but then again preventing users from clicking advertisements sounds really good to me
20:45 < felda> genr8__ it is with pfBlockerNG
20:45 < felda> but PFBNG is resource heavy
20:46 < felda> there is a new version of PFBNG coming out very soon
20:46 < alazare619> pihole can be ran as a vm
20:47 < alazare619> and its as easy is changing your dns forwarder
20:47 < alazare619> so your iwndows machines if on a domain still point to your DC
20:47 < alazare619> and your DC points to pihole
20:47 < alazare619> and pihole resolves wan requests thats it
20:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> pihole+++++
20:54 < Alternity> why is getting nice csv output from get-winevent so goddam hard
20:55 < Alternity> maybe i'm just spoiled from it being so easy most of the time
20:57 < SaucedButLeaking> Anyone able to offer assistance with a kickstart? https://pastebin.com/PN7VqMLG I cloned this kickstart from the 7u3 profile we have. Colleague did the actual procurement o fthe iso.
20:57 <+layer-eight> * SaucedButLeaking →  "Error population transaction after 10 retries: failure: Packages/realmd-0.16.1- - Pastebin.com
20:58 < felda> anyone running pihole in their work environment?
20:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> no
20:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> cause that's not a good idea xD
20:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> it causes some issues here and there
20:59 < ebol4> couldn't you just do that on a normal business-grade router
21:03 < alazare619> McDonaldsWiFi: there exists a log for a reason
21:04 < alazare619> McDonaldsWiFi: i put pihole into production in a few places home included
21:04 < alazare619> felda:  there already is a dns sinkhole for ads on the internet
21:05 < alazare619> felda:  if you are thinking about ad blocking via dns look into https://adguard.com/en/adguard-dns/overview.html
21:05 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  AdGuard DNS | Overview | AdGuard
21:05 < alazare619> its the same concept of pihole without the setup and maintenance
21:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> but why
21:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> are does ad-free envirnonment matter at work
21:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> -.-
21:07 < McDonaldsWiFi> why does*
21:07 < felda> alazare619 isn't pihole free tho?
21:07 < alazare619> so is adguard
21:07 < alazare619> its just a dns sinkhole
21:07 < alazare619> same thing that pihole is
21:07 < felda> I suppose
21:08 < felda> I mean I'm already using pfBlockerNG for that
21:08 < alazare619> the diffrence is adguard is already hosted
21:08 < Alternity> eh, we push ublock origin to chrome via GPO on everyone's machines
21:08 < Alternity> works fine
21:08 < felda> and I get to use whatever DNS Servers I choose
21:08 < estranger> why wony my damn google lens work
21:08 < alazare619> McDonaldsWiFi: ads is how alot of crypto shit spreads
21:08 < Alternity> ublock works when they are working from home
21:08 < felda> so right now at work I'm using 1.1.1.1 for speed and security and pfBlockerNG on top of that to drop bad website (like ads and pornography)
21:09 < estranger> 1.1.1.1 + pihole for me
21:09 < asimon> Is there really no powershell cmdlet to change filetype associations
21:09 < Alternity> 8.8.8.8 + ublock for me
21:09 < alazare619> 1.2.3.4 for me + ublock
21:09 < Alternity> asimon: lol, welcome to windows 10!
21:09 < asimon> That's some bullshit
21:09 < felda> alazare619 does adguard do naught list blocking?
21:09 < estranger> pihole blocks my mobile game ads for free diamonds though :<
21:09 < asimon> All I want is to kill Edge forever
21:09 < alazare619> felda yes
21:09 < asimon> no browsing
21:09 < asimon> no pdf
21:09 < Alternity> dont worry asimon i got your back, someone reverse engineered the win 10 protocol
21:10 < Alternity> sec o
21:10 < Alternity> i'll link you
21:10 < asimon> Thanks!
21:11 < Alternity> asimon: http://kolbi.cz/blog/?p=346
21:11 <+layer-eight> * Alternity →  SetUserFTA: UserChoice Hash defeated – Set File Type Associations per User or Group on Windows 8/10 and 2012/2016 – the kolbicz blog
21:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> alazare619: that's what a firewall and protection software is for
21:12 < McDonaldsWiFi> pihole seems so unprofessional to use tbh
21:12 < Alternity> agreed.  ublock for endpoints and we use dnsfilter.com for office DNS
21:12 < Alternity> cheap, blocks most stuff and has basic reporting
21:13 < F34RInc> Alternity, ayyy someone else uses DNSFilter.com too
21:13 < Alternity> now that opendyn wanted more than $2 dollars a year since their buyout we needed another solution :P
21:14 < genr8__> i want to find another de-comissioned server for free
21:15 < estranger> yeah i wouldnt use pihole in a SMB either.. works great in my house
21:15 < ekaj> anyone have a 32 bit java dl link?
21:15 < ekaj> :/
21:16 <+giant_it_burrit> i do
21:16 < ekaj> oh it was right in front of me i think RIP
21:16 <+giant_it_burrit> http://thisfuckingpieceofsoftwaresucks.com/
21:16 <+layer-eight> * giant_it_burrit →  ⚓  https://java.com/en/ → java.com: Java + You
21:16 < ekaj> yep that's it!
21:16 < estranger> wait.. lol.  thats a real link
21:17 <+giant_it_burrit> yes
21:17 <+giant_it_burrit> why wouldnt it be
21:17 <+giant_it_burrit> i own that domain
21:17 < estranger> remember when you couldnt curse in domains?
21:17 < ekaj> .bofh
21:17 < ekaj> `bofh
21:17 <+layer-eight> BOFH The co-locator cannot verify the frame-relay gateway to the isdn server.
21:17 < ekaj> aw yis
21:19 < estranger> maaan think the wife wants culvers
21:19 < estranger> fuck butterburgers
21:19 < ekaj> REEE
21:20 < MillerBOSS> You have Culvers near you estranger ?
21:20 < estranger> yup right next to the IHOB
21:20 < MillerBOSS> I thought they were only in Wisconsin.
21:20 < estranger> wait. did they announce the B?
21:20 < estranger> MillerBOSS, they creep down into IL :)
21:21 < estranger> burgers??? really??
21:21 < MillerBOSS> Why did they do the B? Kind dumb, no?
21:21 < estranger> i dunno
21:22 < estranger> i did not expect burgers
21:22 < MillerBOSS> People get really confused about tis town's name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culver's#/media/File:Culver%27s,_Onalaska,_WI.jpg
21:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  ⚓  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culver%27s#/media/File:Culver%27s,_Onalaska,_WI.jpg → Culver's - Wikipedia
21:22 < MillerBOSS> Onalaska
21:23 < estranger> Our new burgers are so good, we changed our name.
21:23 < estranger> haha
21:23 < MillerBOSS> Yeah name changes brings taste now. :P
21:23 < estranger> https://www.ihop.com/en/menu/limited-time-offer/big-brunch
21:23 <+layer-eight> * estranger →  Welcome to IHOP - Welcome to IHOP
21:23 < estranger> that looks p good
21:24 < abakedapplepie> i have a culvers here
21:24 < abakedapplepie> in detroit
21:24 < abakedapplepie> p good stuff
21:24 < abakedapplepie> like a slightly better hardees
21:24 < estranger> their custard is good
21:24 < estranger> but see, Portillos is down the road, and their burgers are 10x better
21:24 < MillerBOSS> Go to TGIF for burgers if its a sit down joint.
21:24 < estranger> BUT when you go to portillos you get persueded into a beef sandwich
21:24 < MillerBOSS> https://www.tgifridays.com/burger-bar/
21:24 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Burger Bar | TGI Fridays
21:25 < estranger> Five Guys is sitll one of my favs
21:25 < MillerBOSS> Sure they are but I meant sit down joint
21:25 < estranger> you can sit down there :)
21:26 < MillerBOSS> Yeah yeah
21:26 < estranger> i havent eaten at a fridays in a while now that I think about
21:26 < estranger> since I moved from PA
21:30 < catbeard> how do i switch ms office 2016 into 32 -bit mode
21:30 < DomLS3> uninstall 64bit and reinstall 32 bit
21:30 < estranger> ytho
21:31 < felda> Yall excited
21:32 < felda> Net Neutrality repeal goes into effect today :D
21:32 < felda> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
21:32 < DomLS3> felda: still free porn tho
21:32 < felda> just wait until Comcast starts throttling your porn to 360P until you buy their HD package
21:32 < DomLS3> felda: luckily I have AT&T
21:33 < DomLS3> Comcast is the devil
21:33 < felda> lmao isn't AT&T supposed to be as bad as Comcast?
21:33 < DomLS3> wtf
21:33 < catbeard> client seems to think that there should be a "mail (32-bit)" option in control panel
21:33 < DomLS3> in no way shape or form is ANYONE as bad or worse than Comcast
21:33 < catbeard> guess you'd need the install medium
21:33 < DomLS3> catbeard: there is
21:34 < felda> catbeard yeah that's how outlook is
21:34 < catbeard> he said he reset recently
21:34 < DomLS3> mail 32bit is there regardless of version of officer
21:34 < catbeard> not in his cp
21:34 < felda> lmao you gotta re-install the office suite my dude
21:34 < catbeard> sux
21:34 < int0x1C8> "We noticed you searching for 'brazilian fart porn', 'goat 69', and other terms of an extreme nature. Please subscribe to our "Fetish" package for continued access"
21:36 < ekaj> talked to this symantec dude on the phone, was cool to talk to and energetic, seems dead once he's actually on the support call lol
21:36 < ekaj> maybe because it's close to the end of the day
21:36 < jaelae> so
21:36 < jaelae> i got my white castle earlier
21:37 < MillerBOSS> Why the hell is Dennis Rodman at the Summit?
21:37 < jaelae> and i even knew before i ordered i would be in the bathroom
21:37 < jaelae> MillerBOSS:  Dennis Rodman is representing his north korean friends
21:37 < Hatter> Dennis Rodman may have a lot to do with the current NK situation
21:37 < Hatter> which I agree is annoying
21:37 < jaelae> he said if Donald Trump can represent the US he can also represent a country
21:37 < MillerBOSS> I mean I have no issue with Dennis but lets the officials do their shit
21:37 < MillerBOSS> let*
21:38 < MillerBOSS> Dennis was entertaining on Celebrity Apprentice.
21:38 < alazare619> felda: wait they are undoing the repeal?
21:38 < alazare619> because net neutrality originally was passed
21:38 < MillerBOSS> No It goes into affect today alazare619
21:38 < alazare619> then they repealed it
21:38 < felda> alazare619 no the repeal is finally taking effect today
21:38 < alazare619> are they repealing the repeal?
21:38 < ravioli> !dong
21:39 < felda> technically the repeal didn't happen until today
21:39 < MillerBOSS> `chuck
21:39 <+layer-eight> Chuck Norris: Thanksgiving was not made to thank the indians, it was made to thank Chuck Norris that he didnt kill them when they whizzed on his lawn.
21:39 < alazare619> fuck RIP internet
21:39 < alazare619> net neutrality was the best thing to ever happen ot the internet
21:39 < abakedapplepie> net neutrality didnt happen
21:39 < abakedapplepie> it just was
21:39 < abakedapplepie> rip
21:39 < dragonfleas> i just had to decrypt a registry serial number for acrobat 8
21:39 < dragonfleas> >:(
21:40 < MillerBOSS> I am starting to think Net Neutrality was just a lot of hype. I will eat my words when things go sideways from here.
21:40 < alazare619> unless you live where there is a singular monopolly
21:40 < alazare619> net neutrality didn't really effect you
21:40 < alazare619> i.e.  i live where cox was the only one around
21:40 < alazare619> they throttled movies netflix youtube anything they could to push people to their extremely high priced TV services
21:41 < asimon> alazare619: That surprises me a little, I've found cox to be the only honest isp so far
21:41 < asimon> but maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough
21:41 < alazare619> you couldnt use any VOIP other then what they offered even if you QOS'd for voip it would be choppy with the exception of skype if you had vonage or anything else you couldnt call them to support/troubleshoot it was never on their end
21:42 < alazare619> asimon: it just depends if they have a monopolly they will bully to save money
21:42 < asimon> True
21:42 < alazare619> if comcast/charter any others are out there in the area they were "honest"
21:42 < ekaj> `bofh
21:42 <+layer-eight> BOFH Parallel processors running perpendicular today
21:43 < asimon> They're the only isp I've had that has actually delivered speeds HIGHER than what I pay for
21:43 < felda> Verizon was already getting away with it while NN was supposed to be enforced.  They would throttle videos to 720P unless you bought their "unlimited plan"
21:43 < estranger> Fios used to give me > contract speeds
21:43 < abakedapplepie> honestly, higher than contract speeds, i feel, were the norm at off peak times maybe 5-10 years ago
21:43 < abakedapplepie> but Now? ISPs hard throttle at exactly your contract rate
21:44 < abakedapplepie> nothing more
21:44 < estranger> abakedapplepie, its easier to do now too (lock down peoples speeds)
21:44 < abakedapplepie> oh, i know
21:45 < felda> Does amazon allow non-standard domains for email addresses?
21:45 < DomLS3> felda: it allows iplowedfeldamom.io
21:45 < felda> might switch my amazon account to my personal email
21:45 < ekaj> like? buttpl.ugz?
21:46 < felda> it'd be felda@felda.io
21:46 < ekaj> don't see why not
21:46 < felda> just didn't know if anyone had tried it yet
21:46 < ekaj> if not just call bezos and give him a piece of your mind
21:46 < felda> that or I might try the felda+amazon@gmail.com trick
21:50 <+giant_it_burrit> http://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-ceo-apology-chick-fil-a-gay-pride-month-2018-6
21:50 <+giant_it_burrit> fucking a
21:50 <+layer-eight> * giant_it_burrit →  Twitter CEO apologizes for eating Chick-fil-A during Pride Month - Business Insider
21:50 < Alternity> lul
21:51 < asimon> Why not "Chick-fil-A apologizes for being a bigoted company"
21:51 < Alternity> i've found lots of registration forms now block the +
21:51 < Alternity> they are catching on :(
21:51 < scwizard> lazy bug report zzz
21:51 < scwizard> https://github.com/terraform-providers/terraform-provider-aws/issues/4812
21:51 < Alternity> i just use a temp email website now for most stuff
21:51 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  GitHub → terraform-providers → terraform-provider-aws → Terraform AWS provider → @ ~ 25 minutes ago → Go → ✡ 1,228 → Forks: 1,068 → ☹ 1,836
21:51 < estranger> man I love right wing chicken
21:51 < estranger> its good
21:51 < scwizard> fix ur shit pls
21:51 < Heresiarch> Jesus Cock. For those times when regular fried chicken just won't do.
21:52 < asimon> Also protonmail supports custom email addresses if you want another solution
21:52 < ned0> is Desktop Support Specialist going to be a terrible position?
21:52 < syere> yes
21:52 < Heresiarch> ned0: depends. Do you like people?
21:52 < estranger> ned0, yes
21:52 < Alternity> ned0: if you have zero IT exp it's where you start
21:52 < syere> ^
21:52 < ned0> i have more than zero
21:52 < ned0> but less than meaningful
21:53 < ned0> lol
21:53 < ned0> but this sounds like it is going to pay $15/hr and I'd spend the whole time asking to be allowed to work on more serious projects
21:53 < syere> ned0: you're going to spend most of your time fixing peoples work computers, and sometimes be asked to spend your nights and weekends for free
21:54 < jaelae> if i could go back in time i would primarily focus on applying to ever MSP i could find
21:54 < jaelae> now im not a huge MSP fan but i feel that some of them get you the right amount of experience
21:54 < Heresiarch> ned0: don't be too surprised if those more serious projects never materialize.
21:54 < jaelae> and more of a shot at working on better technologies
21:54 < syere> if I could go back in time i'd start learning python and bash earlier
21:54 < ned0> it looks like 100 employees with an IT manager and 1 IT admin
21:55 < ned0> AND NO SECURITY PERSONNNNNN
21:55 < syere> you honestly dont need a security person if your environment is small and no PII info is there
21:55 < jaelae> i had a job for about 7 years i left way too late. we had 380 employees and i was the only IT person. except for a web developer i hired that they thought equaled a second IT person for me
21:55 < ned0> syere but then you get to hang out in the office while nobody is there and just wheel around waiting for stuff to finish loading
21:55 < hxcsp> no security person... you make that sound uncommon
21:55 < ned0> listen to tunes over the office speakers
21:56 < syere> ned0: You must be new to IT. still full of hope
21:56 < ned0> lol
21:57 < syere> speaking of less than no hope
21:57 < syere> off to a meeting
21:57 < jaelae> i have a great IT gig
21:57 < jaelae> i cant complain
21:57 < jaelae> worth the crappy years.
22:00 < ned0> where did you end up jaelae
22:00 < vinrock> i dont want to hire anyone cuz i dont want anything eating into my budget
22:00 < vinrock> ill relent when it becomes unmanageable
22:00 < jaelae> now i work for a medical software company. we have about 450 employees but my team supports no users just our app
22:00 < ned0> I don't understand this job at all
22:00 < jaelae> so i work on our network, servers, virtualization, automation
22:01 < ned0> it just sounds like general office help desk
22:01 < ned0> but they're offering 50-60k
22:01 < felda> aww PC Part Picker doesn't really have support for servers ;_;
22:01 < vinrock> isnt that jr sysadmin pay
22:01 < vinrock> not helpdesk
22:01 < ned0> i'm bouncing back and forth between "no way this would take 40hrs/week" and "fuck printers"
22:01 < ned0> while reading the job description
22:02 < felda> are you guys excited for Jurasic World Evolution?
22:04 < vinrock> :::crickets:::
22:04 < Hatter> felda: why should I be
22:04 < felda> Hatter Roller Coster Tycoon, but with dinosaurs
22:05 < Hatter> you know I've never actually played any of those tycoon games
22:07 < felda> okay we gotta talk about something
22:07 < felda> I'm kinda hype for Fallout 76
22:07 < felda> but the devs said "Fallout 76 is entirely online"
22:08 < felda> How the fuck am I supposed to install my BIG ANIME TIDDIES mods?!
22:08 < felda> How am I supposed to make Death Claws make Thomas the Train Engine noises?!
22:08 < felda> I want all my laser guns to literally say "PEW" when I fire them
22:08 < felda> I am devastated right now
22:10 < alazare619> you can still do it
22:10 < alazare619> see world of warcraft mods
22:10 < alazare619> it will be a fallout mmorpg
22:10 < alazare619> similiar to say elder scrolls online (which is modable)
22:11 < Hatter> is fallout 76 going to be a proper mmorpg
22:11 < Hatter> or just some weird tacked on multiplayer stuff
22:11 < alazare619> i think its going to be mmorpg in a single player aspect
22:11 < alazare619> meaning you could party if you want
22:12 < alazare619> but the game will be very storyline single progression based id assume
22:12 < Hatter> when does it come out?
22:12 < alazare619> nov 2018
22:12 < Hatter> that's like 5 months from now
22:12 < alazare619> yep
22:12 < sideup66> Felda
22:12 < sideup66> Why has the meme died
22:12 < felda> I think it is supposed to be Fallout 4, but with 4 man squads
22:12 < sideup66> Will it be reborn
22:12 < ravioli> they missed an opportunity with that release date
22:12 < ravioli> should have released it in 2076
22:12 < sideup66> Felda
22:12 < sideup66> Pls
22:12 < sideup66> Answer
22:13 < felda> lmao ravioli
22:13 < Hatter> ravioli: but that's an unreasonable amount of time to wait for a video game
22:13 < ravioli> i disagree.
22:13 < alazare619> long as they rleease it on nov 5th ill be happy
22:13 < alazare619> "remember remember the 5th of november"
22:13 < Hatter> you didn't have to do the poem we all knew what you meant
22:13 < Hatter> but what relevance does that have
22:13 < alazare619> anarchy
22:13 < alazare619> treason
22:14 < Hatter> bit of a stretch
22:14 < alazare619> everything fallout stands for ;)
22:25 < Hatter> you really killed the conversation, alazare619
22:26 < alazare619> idk why
22:26 < Hatter> you managed to silence a room of 500+ people, well done
22:26 < alazare619> i showered this morning
22:26 < Hatter> oh shit I called it a room
22:26 < Hatter> don't let JFDkthx know
22:26 < Hatter> although I think it might be acceptable in that context
22:27 < alazare619> i'm trying to find a samba dc
22:27 < alazare619> with dns/dhcp managed through RSAT like zentyal
22:27 < Hatter> don't try to start some random technical conversation
22:27 < Hatter> seems too forced now
22:30 <+giant_it_burrit> ad
22:31 < felda> oh yeah DomLS3 is your body even ready for Dynamics 365 v9 update?
22:37 < DomLS3> felda: considering I don't have 365, no
22:37 < abakedapplepie> wow
22:37 < abakedapplepie> someone built an ERP on wordpress
22:37 < abakedapplepie> im done
22:38 < abakedapplepie> that hurts my brain
22:38 < DomLS3> s/an E/an D
22:38 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/abakedapplepie] someone built an DRP on wordpress
22:39 < DomLS3> fk
22:39 < DomLS3> s/an E/a DE
22:39 <+layer-eight> [SED DomLS3/abakedapplepie] someone built a DERP on wordpress
22:39 < abakedapplepie> might have been funny if you didnt utterly fail
22:39 < abakedapplepie> :)
22:39 < DomLS3> it happens
22:40 < joelazot> Hi
22:40 < abakedapplepie> i want to call an MSP for help with my ERP
22:40 < abakedapplepie> "what kind of erp do you have?"
22:40 < abakedapplepie> "its uhh... wordpress..."
22:40 < vinrock> wut
22:40 < abakedapplepie> then the sound of a revolver cocking in the background
22:40 < abakedapplepie> rip
22:40 < vinrock> you're mixing acronyms
22:40 < abakedapplepie> no, no im not
22:40 < vinrock> wut
22:40 < abakedapplepie> https://wperp.com/
22:41 < abakedapplepie> its real
22:41 < vinrock> hah no shit
22:41 < abakedapplepie> yes shit
22:41 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:41 < abakedapplepie> "Trusted by 6000+ Businesses over 160 Countries and 20+ Languages"
22:41 < abakedapplepie> I DONT BELIEVE YOU
22:41 < vinrock> shit im gona check this thing out
22:41 < abakedapplepie> ironically, right
22:41 < vinrock> i aint got no use for it
22:41 < abakedapplepie> im a wp evangelist and even i say this is fucking retarded
22:42 < vinrock> i just like checking out new shit
22:42 < abakedapplepie> suppose it would be okay for a homegamer side job guy
22:42 < joelazot_> How is everyone
22:42 < abakedapplepie> oh, you know, spinning my wheels
22:42 < vinrock> i gotta drop a deuce but other than that doin ok
22:42 < abakedapplepie> not getting anything right
22:42 < abakedapplepie> the usual
22:43 < joelazot_> das good
22:43 < joelazot_> weather is so shit today
22:44 < vinrock> its nice out here but coldish
22:44 < vinrock> high of 70 today
22:44 < vinrock> should be like 10 deg higher this time of year
22:47 < MillerBOSS> Hey abakedapplepie, your wheels are turning.
22:48 < dragonfleas> Fallout 76 is going to be amazing
22:48 < MillerBOSS> I sure wperp shit is hosted internally only, wow if that shit was hacked.
22:48 < MillerBOSS> s/re/re hope
22:48 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS] I sure hope wperp shit is hosted internally only, wow if that shit was hacked.
22:53 <+CheckYourSix> MillerBOSS: No kidding. That's the last thing I would want to EVER put online to the public, especially as a WP plugin
22:56 < Hatter> dragonfleas: A lot of people seem to think it will be good, however there are also people who think it will be bad, comment?
22:56 < MillerBOSS> Bad to the bone
22:57 < catbeard> bbbbbbad
22:58 < dragonfleas> Hatter, they're afraid of griefers because there's going to be PVP and Co-op
22:59 < dragonfleas> I'm not afraid of griefers and Todd said to not get attached to bases and they're more temporary than anything
22:59 < dragonfleas> I for one, am a griefer in most games, like rust and stuff, because it's a part of the game, I normally go the evil route in Fallout games, so it only makes sense to be evil to other players
22:59 < Hatter> but what if I want to setup a lovely home with my internet girlfriend?
23:00 < dragonfleas> Hatter, then enjoy my ICBM and your girlfriend turned into a Ghoul
23:00 < Hatter> yeah you just try it
23:01 < abakedapplepie> why did chrome kill badidea
23:01 < abakedapplepie> i dont like moving to my mouse
23:01 < abakedapplepie> D:
23:01 < technonerd> They renamed it
23:01 < technonerd> For the 3rd time
23:02 < felda> DomLS3 bulk deleting 30,000 emails from our CRM is refreshing and cathartic
23:03 < MillerBOSS> Because they think changing it will make us stop using it abakedapplepie
23:04 < abakedapplepie> felda
23:04 < abakedapplepie> how do i add a user to dynamics
23:04 < abakedapplepie> lol
23:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> ewww...
23:04 < McDonaldsWiFi> dynamics is a dirty word
23:04 < felda> That would be Settings > Security > Users
23:04 < abakedapplepie> followup, how the fuck do i log out of dynamics
23:04 < abakedapplepie> i blame IE
23:04 < felda> top right
23:05 < felda> click the little profile
23:05 < abakedapplepie> yeah it does nothing
23:05 < abakedapplepie> THE GOGGLES, THEY DO NOTHING
23:05 < felda> yall fucked my dude
23:05 < joelazot> hey
23:05 < abakedapplepie> this server has 16gb of ram and it acts like it has 2
23:05 < McDonaldsWiFi> _Straffer some say if you say dynamics 3 times in the mirror the ghost of ERP past will come and then suffer from an SQL error and die
23:05 < MillerBOSS> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/843085
23:05 < felda> abakedapplepie THATS THE POWER OF SQL SERVER
23:05 < MillerBOSS> abakedapplepie 👉 If you care ^
23:06 < abakedapplepie> oh shit! so they didnt remove it
23:06 < abakedapplepie> they just changed the word
23:06 < MillerBOSS> Yes duh
23:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> _Straffer: on the day that payroll is due
23:06 < abakedapplepie> whats the new keyword
23:06 < MillerBOSS> thisisunsafe
23:06 < joelazot> Science class is boring
23:06 < abakedapplepie> wow
23:06 < joelazot> i think i'll look for some ccna resources in it
23:06 < abakedapplepie> thats like 5 more characters
23:06 < abakedapplepie> what the fuck man
23:06 < joelazot> ccent rather
23:06 < abakedapplepie> what the fuck.
23:06 < joelazot> abakedapplepie: reckon i'll get an f
23:08 < abakedapplepie> dynamics just tried to load external content from bing
23:08 < abakedapplepie> o.0
23:08 < joelazot> ooo
23:09 < joelazot> abakedapplepie: YO I GOT AN ACHIEVED
23:09 < joelazot> FUCK YeA
23:10 < joelazot> THANKS FOR HELPING ME WItH SCIENCE
23:10 < joelazot> EVEN THO U PROBABLY DIDNT
23:10 < joelazot> TY ANYWAY
23:15 < xamithan> Is there a boot disk thing that'll reset win10 passwords?  If I do a search it just gives me random things with trials
23:16 < joelazot> yeah
23:16 < joelazot> can't remember what its called tho
23:16 < joelazot> lemme have a look
23:17 < asimon> If you make a windows 10 OS recovery disk you can get to a command prompt
23:17 < asimon> then you can >net user newpassword from there
23:17 < xamithan> That sounds simple enough.  I see there is also utilman hidden admin account
23:19 < felda> asimon does Windows NT Password Reset not work anymore?
23:19 < joelazot> Can't see why it wouldn't
23:19 < felda> well Windows 10 has really shaken it up compared to Win 7 and Win 8 user security from what I remember
23:20 < xamithan> Hmm it does say works with win10
23:20 < xamithan> Don't know about that new update though with the PIN system
23:21 < felda> xamithan this is the one I always remember using http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/
23:21 < felda> but it says it only goes up to Win8.1
23:21 < joelazot> if it's a msft account opposed to a local acc i can see why it wouldn't work
23:22 < rootsudo> recruiters
23:22 < rootsudo> love to get my hopes up and dash them down
23:22 < MillerBOSS> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/britannica-insights/hfipegnjbpgdlgifpfdcfnjnhepckmbf/related?hl=en-US
23:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Britannica Insights - Chrome Web Store
23:22 < scwizard> eww aws service limits
23:23 < joelazot> i need to find time to actually read my CCENT book lol
23:24 < rootsudo> office 365 administration
23:24 < rootsudo> is boring
23:24 < rootsudo> sysadmin is boring :(
23:25 < joelazot> :(
23:26 < asimon> You're boring
23:26 < scwizard> that's right
23:26 < scwizard> you're limited to twenty
23:26 < scwizard> fucking twenty fargate tasks by default: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonECS/latest/developerguide/service_limits.html
23:26 < scwizard> l o l
23:26 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  Amazon ECS Service Limits - Amazon Elastic Container Service
23:27 < MillerBOSS> rootsudo 👉 Get more challenging work.
23:27 < MillerBOSS> Ecommerce.
23:27 < rootsudo> I should but
23:27 < joelazot> I want to learn AWS stuff but i legit have no idea what i should do in it lol
23:28 < rootsudo> AWS is easy to learn
23:28 < MillerBOSS> joelazot 👉 https://aws.amazon.com/getting-started/
23:28 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Getting Started on Amazon Web Services (AWS)
23:28 < rootsudo> Run a server, network them together, make them talk to each other, steal some things from github, run a youtube mp4 downloader
23:28 < scwizard> joelazot: have you ever used a virtual linux server for anything?
23:29 < MillerBOSS> This is new https://www.aws.training/Training
23:29 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Find Training | AWS Training & Certification
23:29 < felda> speaking of windows recover
23:29 < joelazot> scwizard: like a VM or a VPS?
23:29 < rootsudo> so you self host a mp4 downloader that'd strip the container of the video portion then you can make it save to a directory, grab a list of links, prefetch them on the sever and it'd run them down in an hour and you get an instant playlist that's offline and usable wherever you want
23:29 < genr8_> VPS
23:29 < felda> what are your favorite rescue discs?
23:29 < joelazot> nah not really
23:29 < MillerBOSS> Oh, joelazot https://aws.amazon.com/getting-started/use-cases/
23:29 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Getting started with use cases for Amazon Web Services (AWS)
23:29 < rootsudo> felda hirens is popular nowdays, or it was 10 years ago
23:29 < scwizard> joelazot: vps
23:29 < felda> FalconFour is supposed to be an updated Hirens Boot Disc
23:29 < genr8_> you should get a Vultr droplet for VPS. want me to recruit you? its $2.50 a month for a small drop and $5 for a regular one
23:29 < scwizard> like maybe to host a minecraft server or something
23:30 < scwizard> or whatever kids do these days
23:30 < joelazot> i don't really play games kek
23:30 < rootsudo> I don't think I can continue to be a sysadmin
23:30 < rootsudo> it's a bullshit position and job
23:30 < rootsudo> I'm good at it, I know what to do, but man it's so boring
23:30 < scwizard> ya know what i mean though
23:30 < scwizard> ever use a VPS for anything?
23:30 < joelazot> yeah
23:30 < joelazot> nope not really
23:30 < scwizard> k then
23:30 < rootsudo> then make a tor relay and a proxy
23:30 < syere> rootsudo - come to the dark side of "devops"
23:30 < rootsudo> syere I think I am, I like talking and having endless meetings
23:30 < rootsudo> going to change titles on my resume
23:31 < rootsudo> devos engineer
23:31 < genr8_> sign up with my referal link:) https://www.vultr.com/?ref=7305525
23:31 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  ⚓  https://www.vultr.com/ → SSD VPS Servers, Cloud Servers and Cloud Hosting by Vultr - Vultr.com
23:31 < syere> rootsudo: nonono, devops is still a mystery term. You just look at the environment, and start playing with projects you think iwll make life better
23:31 < genr8_> $2.50 a month is the best price you're gonna get
23:31 < joelazot> yeah
23:31 < joelazot> i'll get it soon cause i'm paying off a dl380 g7 off muh parents
23:32 < kepler> !spam
23:32 < rootsudo> syere that's perfect being proactive vs reactive
23:33 < joelazot> I want to go work as a devops engineer or whatever it's called
23:33 < syere> rootsudo: exactly. I get to get out of the admin world of fires and buckets, and get to start fixing real root causes
23:33 < genr8_> on the VPS i set up a wordpress, nextcloud, openvpn
23:33 < rootsudo> syere I think you're right
23:34 < genr8_> you can run chat bots, discord, irc bouncer...
23:34 < syere> rootsudo: just be on the lookout  if you are looking at devops jobs. It seems most places are getting it now, like 50%, but the other is split between companies thinking you can take OPS and make them developers, or take developers and make them OPS
23:35 < rootsudo> I need to setup an irc boncer actually
23:35 < joelazot> I assume EC2s from AWS are Containers?
23:35 < kepler> use aws free teir for a yr
23:35 < kepler> they aren't containers, they are full VMs
23:35 < rootsudo> joelazot yes and no
23:35 < genr8_> theyre droplets or w/e
23:36 < genr8_> they work like a full machine, you can pick from a list what OS to load on it
23:36 < rootsudo> a container just houses a instance, an ec2 is an instance, containers are multiple ones
23:36 < joelazot> ah ok
23:37 < joelazot> ty
23:37 < rootsudo> but yeah, third week in my "new" job I take the day off :¥ I guess that's my body saying fuck the work
23:37 < kepler> they are a VM running on xen or kvm (depending how far along they are in replaceing xen with their own kvm), so a vm just like any other hypervisor
23:37 < kepler> *on any other hypervisor
23:38 < kepler> ECS is their container service
23:38 < joelazot> interesting
23:38 < rootsudo> Elastic compute service ^
23:38 < kepler> you can make an aws account for free. 1 yr free of small machines
23:38 < joelazot> i know
23:39 < joelazot> I will soon
23:39 < joelazot> I've already got a 2nd pc running as a kvm host :)
23:39 < rootsudo> openvpn + ubuntu
23:39 < rootsudo> is not a bad place to start
23:39 < kepler> rootsudo: ECS is elastic container service
23:39 < rootsudo> kepler thank you, I was thinking of alibaba
23:39 < rootsudo> same thing, different brand
23:39 < joelazot> i don't really like ubuntu
23:39 < joelazot> prefer debian or centos
23:39 < rootsudo> well to bad lol
23:39 < rootsudo> ubuntu is the standard online now
23:39 < joelazot> kek
23:40 < genr8_> you can use what you want
23:40 < rootsudo> man I remember the days when you had to spin up a centos or mandrake os on a vps
23:40 < syere> omg mandrake. That is a name I haven't heard in 20 years
23:41 < joelazot> I've heard the word mandrake once i think
23:41 < genr8_> they still give you Centos as the default choice on vultr
23:41 < rootsudo> You're not missing anything lol
23:41 < syere> holy crap that distro made it to 2011? How?!?!??!
23:42 < joelazot> I remember a co worker telling me there's a version of RHEL that has a fucking gui
23:42 < joelazot> like why
23:42 < joelazot> W H Y
23:42 < rootsudo> to make stuff easy
23:43 < abakedapplepie> > ubuntu is the standard online now
23:43 < abakedapplepie> wat
23:43 < joelazot> Why would you want to use a GUI with R H E L
23:43 < syere> im pretty happy running centos in production honestly
23:44 < genr8_> i dont really know much about the differences in distros
23:44 < rootsudo> philosophy
23:45 < rootsudo> updates
23:45 < rootsudo> lead programmers, support and random bullshit
23:45 < syere> you have your debs, you rpms, then whatever you put arch and gentoo in. but if we are just talking servers, its all about being rpm or deb
23:45 < joelazot> what would you reccomend i should heavily focus on learning if i want to go into devops? I'm assuming stuff such as linux, python, ansible and on the windows side stuff like powershell?
23:45 < rootsudo> bash and powershell are similar
23:45 < syere> debs are debian then ubuntu and all the other variants. They tend to have newer bleeding edge updates and software
23:45 < rootsudo> different verbs but same behaviour
23:45 < rootsudo> devops you need to know communication and project management
23:45 < syere> rpms are more cautious about the latest and greatest and offer known stability, and the expense of new things
23:45 < rootsudo> and high level automation
23:46 < genr8_> Debian should be #1, not #2
23:46 < joelazot> so as far as i know devops is similar to sysadmin but is more so focused on automation; how far off from reality is this?
23:46 < syere> rpm distros are  RHEL - centos - fedora, and so on
23:46 < syere> joelazot: about right
23:47 < joelazot> syere: is that what it tends to be or is supposed to be? cause that's what im interested in
23:47 < syere> joelazot: in my experience so far, it is what it shakes out to be. automating things, making peoples daily lifes better. essentially you'll spend 2 months so that everyone can stop clicking that one damn button 20 times a day
23:48 < joelazot> Sounds good.
23:48 < joelazot> I assume i should also learn a bit about AWS and stuff, since that's where it appears alot of services are going opposed to on prem?
23:49 < syere> well
23:49 < genr8_> cloud in general. theyre just one provider
23:49 < syere> that is really per company. some do not have any  cloud, some use azure, some use aws, google, and some use all three at the same fucking time
23:50 < genr8_> i would start with like a vultr or digitalocean cause theyre easier
23:50 < joelazot> interesting
23:50 < syere> that is where projects like teraform come into play
23:50 < rootsudo> Oh, if you have basic python experience
23:50 < genr8_> they cater to more of a DIY-mentality than like big business
23:50 < joelazot> currently i know a decent bit about windows server and a bit about linux
23:50 < rootsudo> Google is hiring like crazy if you relococate to austin or seattle
23:50 < rootsudo> 120K/yr
23:50 < syere> joelazot: start at the beginning. Check our and read on puppet vs chef vs ansible, and then you will have a good understanding
23:50 < joelazot> rootsudo: i live in new zealand kek
23:51 < rootsudo> joelazot How is it? I have a work visa to go there
23:51 < rootsudo> but I've been lazy
23:51 < joelazot> It's really nice
23:51 < joelazot> I like it
23:51 < joelazot> We're very polite for the most part
23:51 < genr8_> ive been watching survivor new zealand
23:51 < joelazot> rootsudo: I wouldn't reccomend living in auckland tho; housing prices are retarded there
23:51 < genr8_> you guys have cool accents
23:51 < joelazot> ty
23:51 < Casteil> just send this to my boss as a "TL;DR" for a "user fucked up" explanation: https://memecrunch.com/meme/16RCW/wildcard-bitches/image.png?w=400&c=1
23:52 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 275,682 bytes
23:52 < genr8_> LOL
23:53 < joelazot> is VMware used outside of windows environments?
23:53 < joelazot> well vSphere rather
23:54 < rootsudo> Yeah
23:54 < genr8_> theres vmware esxi
23:54 < genr8_> also this https://www.vmware.com/cloud-services/infrastructure.html
23:54 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  vCloud Air powered by OVH
23:55 < joelazot> I think i might use ESXi with vCenter in my lab when my server arrives
23:55 < joelazot> use windows + linux
23:55 < joelazot> i'm pretty sure i can use samba for authentication too
23:55 < joelazot> to kinda integrate AD onto the linux side of things
23:56 < genr8_> yep
23:56 < DomLS3> anyone remember astalavista.net?
23:56 < genr8_> yep
23:56 < genr8_> cracks
23:57 < joelazot> im off
23:57 < joelazot> next class
23:57 < joelazot> cya
23:57 < abakedapplepie> what about altavista.com
23:57 < genr8_> there was another one too
23:57 < abakedapplepie> lol
23:57 < abakedapplepie> i couldnt remember it then, i cant remember it now
23:57 < abakedapplepie> i recently stumbled across the greatest page in the universe
23:57 < abakedapplepie> didnt know he was still putting up content
23:58 < abakedapplepie> forgot all about that shit
23:58 < SynMonger> what, like timecube?
23:58 < abakedapplepie> no the literat greatest page in the universe
23:58 < abakedapplepie> maddox
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