--- Log opened Wed Jun 13 00:00:06 2018
--- Day changed Wed Jun 13 2018
00:00 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i used the software downgrade feature in asdm just now
00:00 < dragonfleas> it says "please wait"
00:00 < Hunterkll> i've never used that before
00:00 < Hunterkll> lol
00:00 < dragonfleas> we'll see if it works
00:00 < Hunterkll> you'll still need to upgrade ASDM at some point
00:00 < Hunterkll> i have no idea what that feature does
00:00 < Hunterkll> lol
00:00 < dragonfleas> shit
00:00 < dragonfleas> it kicked me out of asdm
00:01 < Hunterkll> yes....
00:01 < Hunterkll> downgrade should be one config item, one change, and a reload
00:01 < Hunterkll> lol
00:01 < dragonfleas> gonna go smoke brb
00:01 < Hunterkll> same i guess
00:09 < MillerBOSS> NinjaStyle 👉 https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-06-12-17-09-14-z.png
00:09 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 22,817 bytes
00:10 < MillerBOSS> Early morning.
00:10 < joelazot> Hunterkll: how long should a conclusion be
00:13 < Hunterkll> joelazot, three pages
00:13 < joelazot> kek
00:14 < Hunterkll> joelazot, https://essaypro.com/blog/essay-format/
00:14 < Hunterkll> standardized formats for this
00:14 < joelazot> tyvm!
00:14 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, the downgrade worked
00:14 < Hunterkll> heh
00:14 < dragonfleas> i'm able to get in again
00:14 < Hunterkll> weird
00:14 < Hunterkll> lol
00:14 < Hunterkll> well, now go to 8.4(6) standard way
00:14 < dragonfleas> so upgrade to 8.4(6) then upgrade to 9.1.7(23)?
00:14 < Hunterkll> or newer
00:14 < Hunterkll> once you're on 8.4(6) you can go anywhere
00:16 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, call up Cisco TAC, reference THIS vulnerability - https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/csa/cisco-sa-20180606-asaftd.html
00:16 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Cisco Adaptive Security Appliance Web Services Denial of Service Vulnerability - Cisco
00:16 < Hunterkll> and they will give you 9.2.4(33) for free
00:17 < dragonfleas> 9.2.4(33) won't work on 5510 right?
00:17 < dragonfleas> only on 5505?
00:17 < Hunterkll> correct
00:17 < Hunterkll> you'll need 9.1.7(29)
00:17 < Hunterkll> you can ask for both
00:17 < Hunterkll> they're both covered by that
00:17 < Hunterkll> of course, you could use 9.1.7(29) on the 5505
00:17 < Hunterkll> that way you'll have the same version on every single device
00:17 < Hunterkll> that might be smarter
00:17 < dragonfleas> yeah i kinda wanna do that
00:18 < Hunterkll> that'll get you on the latest nonvulnerable firmware
00:18 < Hunterkll> and taht's the newest vulnerability disclosure
00:20 < dragonfleas> thanks for the help again Hunterkll
00:20 < dragonfleas> you gave me some useful knowledge for the future
00:22 < MillerBOSS> Say what, AT&T and TWC Inc will go through. :(
00:22 < MillerBOSS> I mean TW Inc
00:23 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180612/p29#a180612p29
00:23 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Techmeme: Judge rules that AT&T can complete its $85B merger with Time Warner, did not impose conditions on the approval (Sara Salinas/CNBC)
00:23 < Hunterkll> lol
00:27 < MillerBOSS> AT&T will be yuge
00:28 < Hunterkll> I guess when they said make america great again
00:28 < MillerBOSS> Thats just nuts how one CEO can over see all of the below
00:28 < Hunterkll> they meant make american telephone & telegraph great again
00:28 < MillerBOSS> Pretty much. What was that Judge on?
00:28 < Hunterkll> cocaine?
00:29 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180612/p20#a180612p20
00:29 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Techmeme: Google disables inline installation for Chrome extensions, which let users install them on 3rd party sites; goes into effect for existing extensions in 3 months (Emil Protalinski/VentureBeat)
00:30 < JFDkthx> time to go busting again
00:31 < JFDkthx> because when have monopolies ever been a good thing for the everyday man
00:32 < JFDkthx> i think someone just tried to come in my office
00:32 < JFDkthx> NOT ON MY WATCH
00:33 < gamerfox> Wheee, and my office just lost power.
00:33 < Hunterkll> alright
00:33 < JFDkthx> what are you doing in irc
00:33 < Hunterkll> i need to get firmware for my other devices
00:33 < JFDkthx> get off and conserver!
00:33 < Hunterkll> but hell
00:33 < Hunterkll> this'll work
00:33 < Hunterkll> latest ASA ID
00:33 < Hunterkll> er, software
00:34 < gamerfox> And its back.
00:34 < Hunterkll> cisco should call me back within the hour
00:34 < Hunterkll> yay
00:35 < joelazot> yay
00:36 < Hunterkll> Cisco may supply software patches for certain software vulnerabilities. Customers without service contracts covering impacted equipment must provide serial numbers for equipment where software patches will be installed and software may only be installed on the equipment listed by serial number in this service request.
00:36 < Hunterkll> All customers must have a valid software license for the equipment (per Cisco End User License Agreement), or must purchase a valid software license from Cisco or a Cisco Authorized Channel Partner prior to download and installation of software. For more information see:
00:36 < Hunterkll> SR : ASA5505-BUN-K9 // Security Vulnerability Policy CVE-2018-0296
00:36 < Hunterkll> neat
00:37 < agent_white> jr sysadmin interview tomorrow \o/
00:38 < Hunterkll> NEW BITCHMEAT COMING IN
00:38 < joelazot> WAT
00:38 < joelazot> o
00:38 < Hunterkll> SOMEONE GET THE PUNISHER
00:38 < agent_white> D:
00:38 < gamerfox> Perfect, we needed another virgin to sacrificed to the printer gods.
00:38 < gamerfox> sacrifice*
00:39 < joelazot> I'll probably just end up being a windows admin sadly
00:39 < joelazot> :(
00:39 < joelazot> anyway  i need to finish my exam
00:39 < joelazot> 20 mins left
00:41 < MillerBOSS> What exam?
00:41 < joelazot> English exam
00:41 < MillerBOSS> In America? Thats absurd.
00:42 < MillerBOSS> :P
00:42 < joelazot> new zealand :p
00:42 < MillerBOSS> You are in NZ?
00:42 < joelazot> yeah lol
00:42 < MillerBOSS> Isn't English native there?
00:42 < joelazot> yes...
00:43 < joelazot> We have to write an essay....
00:43 < MillerBOSS> I can say Filipinos' English is better than mine even
00:43 < MillerBOSS> NZ is like the secret America.
00:43 < joelazot> if you really want you can gauge my english skill levels by reading my essay if you wan't
00:43 < MillerBOSS> For the elite.
00:43 < joelazot> kek
00:44 < MillerBOSS> Sure. It looks fine so far.
00:44 < MillerBOSS> 10:44am
00:44 < MillerBOSS> The date & time is currently: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 at 5:44:35 PM
00:45 < MillerBOSS> How did you find #reddit-sysadmin at your age joelazot ?
00:45 < MillerBOSS> Wait get back to your exam. :P
00:46 < joelazot> MillerBOSS: https://pastebin.com/cn2eJVkq
00:46 <+layer-eight> * joelazot →  In todays society, things such as neglect and abuse are disgustingly common.  In - Pastebin.com
00:47 < MillerBOSS> I remember in middle school 6th grade I think we were taught to double space after a period ending a sentence. What ever happened to that?
00:47 < joelazot> MillerBOSS: I've always known that IRC was a thing and when i started to get into sysadmin kinda stuff i saw that their was a IRC channel on the subreddit
00:47 < MillerBOSS> Ahh. Good eye
00:48 < joelazot> maybe that's a US thing
00:48 < MillerBOSS> It was a 90s thing
00:48 < joelazot> ah
00:48 < genr8_> dont post your homework to pastebin cause teachers can google it and claim you didnt write it or shared it or something
00:48 < joelazot> good point
00:48 < joelazot> didn't think of that
00:48 < MillerBOSS> Tell them to F off as that was your way to back it up. :P
00:49 < MillerBOSS> Its good though
00:49 < genr8_> and from what i hear they are on high alert for plagiarism in schools these days
00:49 < joelazot> yeah
00:50 < JFDkthx> MillerBOSS: thats only used in ceertain formats
00:51 < MillerBOSS> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing_in_digital_media
00:51 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Sentence spacing in digital media - Wikipedia
00:51 < MillerBOSS> I recall everything you typed back then had to have two spaces after the period and it was changed over time because of typography maybe?
00:51 <+giant_it_burrit> killdash9:
00:51 <+giant_it_burrit> you want to ships?
00:52 < genr8_> i still double space my periods
00:52 < genr8_> is that old?
00:52  * MillerBOSS shrugs
00:52 < joelazot_> firefox shat itself
00:53 < MillerBOSS> Get a bouncer
00:53 < MillerBOSS> Do you want one?
00:53 < MillerBOSS> I am happy to add you to mine if you want
00:53 < MillerBOSS> I use ZNC
00:54 < genr8_> you can add other people? is there liks a .zncrc file ?
00:54 < MillerBOSS> I do it in the interface
00:54 < MillerBOSS> I am happy to do it for anyone really
00:54 < MillerBOSS> You can have your own ghost as well if you have your own domain.
00:54 < MillerBOSS> vhost*
00:54 < genr8_> im considering just making one
00:55 < MillerBOSS> Mine is on Vultr
00:55 < genr8_> oh? but you need authoritative nameserver access right
00:55 < MillerBOSS> They have reverse DNS
00:55 < genr8_> oh they do
00:55 < genr8_> mine too then
00:55 < MillerBOSS> And you set a PTR on DNS
00:55 < MillerBOSS> :)
00:56 < MillerBOSS> joelazot_ 👉 That was to you above
00:56 < genr8_> gotcha. been like 10 years
01:00 < genr8_> should make him set it up himself as practice
01:01 < genr8_> i remember i used to have a lot of fun using other people's free shells that they'd make an account for me on their box
01:01 < catbeard> been so long since i got off a good Jethro Gibbs rule reference
01:01 < genr8_> Rule 39: "There is no such thing as coincidence."
01:01 < genr8_> thats the only one i remember
01:01 < catbeard> actually we had to break Rule #1
01:02 < catbeard> never put suspects together
01:02 < JFDkthx> ah yes, nothing makes me happier than when a server doesnt come back after a reboot
01:03 < MillerBOSS> How happy?
01:03 < genr8_> it took 5 minutes once
01:03 < JFDkthx> p happy
01:03 < genr8_> is 5 minutes a long reboot time for servers or common ?
01:03 < catbeard> it's ok for a dedi
01:03 < catbeard> check console
01:04 < genr8_> its my physical server lol. its my own fault its that slow, but i cant fix it
01:04 < genr8_> fucking Dell bios is abominably slow
01:04 < genr8_> half the time is like just bios. then the rest is freeBSD starting everything in sequential order
01:05 < catbeard> abominable!
01:05 < catbeard> how ya been buddy
01:05 < catbeard> DELL BIOS: "Help... meeeee"
01:06 < catbeard> Dell BIOS: "This dude is really pushing my buttons here..."
01:06 < catbeard> Dell BIOS: "He's about to get... A DELL!"
01:07 < genr8_> DUDE
01:07  * d ell's are great.
01:07 < genr8_> actually i was so happy when i found that server and it actually worked
01:07 < gamerfox> Save me. One of my point of sale clients now has an "onsite IT guy" that just wiped the wrong despite the massive asset tags on them.
01:07 < gamerfox> wrong system*
01:08 < genr8_> i think the RAM is a cause for slowdown cause its slots are full up to 24GB DDR3 of 1333mhz ram but the bus only runs at 800mhz due to dell shenanigans
01:08 < genr8_> wow
01:08 < Hunterkll> genr8_, due to dell shenanigans? you mean intel
01:08 < genr8_> thats like Rule #1
01:08 < Hunterkll> memory controller is on the CPU
01:08 < genr8_> dell locks it further than intel does
01:08 < genr8_> it should be able to run at 1066
01:09 < Hunterkll> that's not quite how that works.../
01:09 < Hunterkll> i'd wager you got a mismatch somewhere
01:09 < Hunterkll> or something funky
01:09 < Hunterkll> what CPU?
01:09 < genr8_> it kind of is. that motherboard has 6 slots and its a 4 slot cpu
01:09 < genr8_> X3440
01:09 < genr8_> when you full all 6 slots, it downclocks even further
01:10 < genr8_> sorta like the lenovo servers
01:10 < Hunterkll> you know that CPU can run two memory channels, right?
01:10 < catbeard> that'll teach you to cheap out and not get supermicro
01:10 < Hunterkll> i'll give oyu a hint
01:10 < Hunterkll> triple channel exits
01:10 < Hunterkll> exists
01:10 < rootsudo> I
01:10 < rootsudo> I don't know why I'm bitching
01:10 < catbeard> .tampabay.res.rr.com
01:10 < rootsudo> I make $40/hr being a sharepoint admin while doing nothing
01:10 < genr8_> whats your point? The board has 6 slots and it came with 6 slots full. if i remove 2 i can get it back to full speed
01:11 < catbeard> stuck at the beach yo
01:11 < Hunterkll> what board?
01:11 < catbeard> rootsudo: that's generally the way things go
01:11 < genr8_> whatever shit came in the Dell PowerEdge T310
01:11 < genr8_> Look up the ram config yourself. its wonky.
01:11 < rootsudo> catbeard im working on my own business
01:12 < Hunterkll> oh that's cute
01:12 < genr8_> "Unless there is a need for memory capacity over memory frequency, 3DPC (three DIMMs per channel) configuration is not recommended since 3DPC configuration forces the memory subsystem to run at a lower frequency "
01:12 < catbeard> rootsudo: same
01:12 < Hunterkll> i see what they did there
01:13 < Hunterkll> you can't run quad ranked dimms either
01:13 < Hunterkll> that's fucking cute
01:13 < catbeard> after $employer work is done ofc
01:13 < genr8_> :)
01:13 < Hunterkll> you can't run quad ranked
01:13 < genr8_> yeah so im not really even trying to replace the ram
01:13 < Hunterkll> because it makes a pair appear as a quad rank
01:13 < Hunterkll> hahaha
01:13 < user-and-abuser> 310... throw away
01:13 < Hunterkll> lol
01:14 < rootsudo> I'm going to make a marginally questionable supplement brand line
01:14 < Hunterkll> user-and-abuser, not all of us are rich mofos who can afford to buy current gen hardware for home
01:14 < Hunterkll> :P
01:14 < user-and-abuser> EOL ...ever hear od it
01:14 < rootsudo> where I have chinese white label supplements
01:14 < genr8_> I feel like someone just threw this server away because they put slow RAM into it
01:14 < genr8_> so win for me
01:14 < rootsudo> and I'll hire cute athelethic women in asian countries to peddle it for me
01:14 < user-and-abuser> as long as thats not "prod"
01:14 < rootsudo> and hope no one dies
01:14 < rootsudo> and hire a social media marketing expert
01:14 < Hunterkll> user-and-abuser, my bog standard config is 96GB dual hex core .... supermicro X8 gen hardwar
01:14 < rootsudo> and see where that goes
01:14 < Hunterkll> lol
01:14 < gamerfox> lol 10/10 plan there rootsudo
01:15 < user-and-abuser> ehh what super micro chassy?
01:15 < Hunterkll> lol
01:15 < Hunterkll> user-and-abuser, rosewill case
01:15 < Hunterkll> :P
01:15 < rootsudo> gamerfox in the end I have beautiful asian atheltic girls after me all day and night
01:15 < user-and-abuser> dog
01:15 < rootsudo> talk about hell
01:15 < genr8_> I want a PowerEdge R710 with 72gb of ram and a PowerEdge MD1200 vault
01:15 < user-and-abuser> check out their mini cloud / micro cloud
01:15 < Hunterkll> rosewill had a 15 bay 4U case for $100
01:15 < Hunterkll> so yea
01:15 < genr8_> powervault*
01:16 < Hunterkll> user-and-abuser, my whole kit was like less than $300 all said and done for dual hex X56 xeons which is the minimum that can run hyper-v 2016, 96GB ram, IPMI, etc
01:16 < Hunterkll> R710 gen hardware really
01:16 < JFDkthx> rootsudo:  you still in chicago
01:16 < genr8_> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147164
01:16 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Rosewill RSV-L4500 Black Metal/ Steel, 1.0 mm thickness , 4U Rackmount Server Chassis, 15 Internal Bays, 8 Included Cooling Fans - Newegg.com
01:16 < catbeard> rootsudo: must be
01:16 < Hunterkll> genr8_, ya but i got mine on amazon
01:16 < Hunterkll> so w/e
01:16 < user-and-abuser> not a big fan of super micro. but " it works"
01:16 < Hunterkll> but that looks right
01:16 < Hunterkll> ya that is it
01:16 < Hunterkll> its a bitch to work inside of
01:16 < Hunterkll> but eh
01:16 < user-and-abuser> https://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/MicroCloud.cfm
01:16 <+layer-eight> * user-and-abuser →  MicroCloud Solution | Products - Super Micro Computer, Inc.
01:16 < catbeard> what does your recruitment line look like rootsudo? "me love you full time?"
01:16 < user-and-abuser> lol hyper V
01:16 < user-and-abuser> lol type2
01:16 < genr8_> yea shits generic as fuck. ive worked on those bfore.
01:17 < user-and-abuser> fuck that noise
01:17 < Hunterkll> user-and-abuser, Hyper-V is a type-1 hypervisor, like ESXi and Xen
01:17 < Hunterkll> you obviously have no clue how it works
01:17 < Hunterkll> :P
01:17 < user-and-abuser> oh really?
01:17 < user-and-abuser> do explain
01:17 < Hunterkll> (or the fact that it gets better vcpu density and local storage performance then those others too)
01:17 < user-and-abuser> i love windows updates on my hpyervisor
01:17 < user-and-abuser> thats just the best shit ever
01:18 < genr8_> you turn those off and update every half-year or w/e
01:18 < user-and-abuser> tell me how its not a type2
01:18 < genr8_> cause its so much part of the OS that its basically type-1 ?
01:18 < user-and-abuser> LOL
01:18 < user-and-abuser> ohkay...
01:19 < user-and-abuser> 👌
01:19 < genr8_> i dont really know
01:19 < Hunterkll> user-and-abuser, the aurora hypervisor loads before windows, just like in xen windows is the equivelent VM of dom0
01:19 < Hunterkll> it's just a highly priv'd VM
01:19 < rootsudo> JFDkthx Going there this weekend
01:20 < rootsudo> catbeard actually, no, I go to the main gym's, I have friends that I trust, and essentially I ask if the girl wants sponsership and some side income to push my drugs and they always say yes
01:20 < user-and-abuser> got a link about that?
01:20 < Hunterkll> i call it technet or wikipedia
01:20 < rootsudo> Then you have to play the game of not fucking a beautiful, athletic and perfect asian women
01:20 < rootsudo> And they're convincing :(
01:21 < genr8_> Image result for hyper v is type 1syrewiczeit.com
01:21 < genr8_> It is type 1 (bare metal) in both cases. The trick here is that when you install Hyper-V as a role on Windows Server 2008 R2 you see the Windows Server like a host OS and it is not. The setup converts the original OS in something like a VM and puts the hypervisor below.
01:21 < Hunterkll> user-and-abuser, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-V#/media/File:Hyper-V.png
01:21 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Hyper-V - Wikipedia
01:21 < Hunterkll> also, use server core - i've had months with no reboot required updates
01:21 < Hunterkll> but we have to reboot esxi every month for its security patches
01:21 < Hunterkll> lol
01:21 < Hunterkll> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-V
01:22 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Hyper-V - Wikipedia
01:22 < Hunterkll> but just like vmware it has a cluster patching system so it just moves your VMs around just fine
01:22 < genr8_> https://garvis.ca/2012/01/03/layer-1-or-layer-2-hypervisor-a-common-misconception-of-hyper-v-and-a-brief-explanation-of-the-parent-partition/
01:22 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  Layer 1 or Layer 2 Hypervisor? A common misconception of Hyper-V, and a brief explanation of the Parent Partition | The World According to Mitch
01:23 < Hunterkll> runs automatically in the deployments i set up
01:23 < Hunterkll> we literally never have to intervene
01:23 < genr8_> Hyper-V installs in much the same way.  It lifts the base operating system up off the bare-metal, injects the thin-layer hypervisor onto the bare-metal hardware, and instead of placing the original back where it was, it condenses it into what I call a para-virtual machine, and creates the Parent Partition, which is a concept unique to Microsoft.
01:23 < genr8_> well said
01:23 < Hunterkll> lol
01:24 < Hunterkll> virtual pc was their type 2
01:24 < Hunterkll> they canned it once they made a type1 good enoughf or workstation use
01:24 < Hunterkll> hence windows 8
01:24 < user-and-abuser> yeah on server core i could see it working a bit better
01:25 < Hunterkll> works just as well on either one honestly
01:25 < user-and-abuser> but im not at all impressed with hyper v vs going with something else thats free
01:25 < JollyRgrs> whoah
01:25 < user-and-abuser> apprently its type 1, does not feel like type 1
01:25 < JollyRgrs> new steam client layout
01:25 < Hunterkll> user-and-abuser, neither does xen
01:26 < user-and-abuser> xen i think is also got 1 foot in the grave
01:26 < Hunterkll> it's pretty top notch for hard resource allocation
01:26 < Hunterkll> it hs its uses cases
01:26 < Hunterkll> now KVM is blurring the lines
01:26 < MadCamel> KVM is my bae
01:26 < user-and-abuser> KVM is going to be the new new for a decade or so to come
01:27 < Hunterkll> lol
01:27 < DLSteve> I remember when VirtualPC was a Mac x86 emulator for running Windows.
01:27 < user-and-abuser> joyint isint that bad
01:27 < user-and-abuser> me too
01:27 < genr8_> i have a question. If you install that Hyper-V role on windows 10 pro, does it do the same "Parent partition" lift thing ?
01:28 < DLSteve> Tried playing Command & Conquer on my iMac with it, did not work out too well.
01:28 < JollyRgrs> no
01:28 < Hunterkll> yes genr8_
01:28 < Hunterkll> it works the exact same way
01:28 < user-and-abuser> im not sure
01:28 < genr8_> so as soon as you install Hyper-V the role, your OS is running in para-virtualization mode ?
01:28 < Hunterkll> yes
01:28 < genr8_> is that somehow more secure ?
01:28 < Hunterkll> that's also fundamental to how credential guard and hypervisor code integrity works
01:28 < user-and-abuser> lol and when you uninstal the role?
01:28 < Hunterkll> it goes back to windows on the bare metal
01:28 < Hunterkll> and you lose a lot of security features
01:28 < genr8_> it has to do a long reboot process on the role
01:28 < genr8_> i know that much
01:28 < user-and-abuser> windows and security
01:28 < genr8_> so it very well could be doing it
01:28 < Hunterkll> oyu can actually configure win10 with hyper-v enabled in such a way that you completely eliminate pass the hash attacks
01:28 < user-and-abuser> i need to think about that
01:29 < genr8_> Hunterkll: whoa
01:29 < Hunterkll> 8 and up aren't so bad
01:29 < genr8_> so it does help for security
01:29 < Hunterkll> a lot
01:29 < Hunterkll> and HCI too
01:29 < Hunterkll> HCI acutally breaks pubg's anticheat lmao
01:29 < Hunterkll> because it can't load the driver
01:29 < genr8_> heh
01:29 < Hunterkll> so i have to turn off hyper-v on my desktop to play pubg
01:29 < user-and-abuser> gota get that pubg hacks
01:29 < genr8_> oboy
01:29 < Hunterkll> 99% of normal users won't have HCI working
01:29 < Hunterkll> so it's not a concern
01:29 < DLSteve> genr8_, Our PAWs use Win 10 and Hyper-V
01:30 < Hunterkll> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/windows-defender-exploit-guard/enable-virtualization-based-protection-of-code-integrity
01:30 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Enable virtualization-based protection of code integrity | Microsoft Docs
01:30 < genr8_> PAW ? personal audio workstation?
01:30 < Hunterkll> priv'd access workstation
01:30 < Hunterkll> basically the workstation you use for high security stuff like domain admin access etc
01:30 < Hunterkll> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/oem-vbs
01:30 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Virtualization-based Security (VBS) | Microsoft Docs
01:30 < Hunterkll> here's a list of this
01:30 < genr8_> k
01:30 < Hunterkll> also, you don't need TPM 2.0 in enterprise, 1.2 will work
01:30 < Hunterkll> with some limitations
01:30 < DLSteve> genr8_, Privileged Access Workstation. Dedicated machines for logging in as Domain Admin.
01:31 < genr8_> HVCI not hci
01:31 < Hunterkll> whatever
01:31 < Hunterkll> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/ash/2016/03/02/windows-10-device-guard-and-credential-guard-demystified/
01:31 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Windows 10 Device Guard and Credential Guard Demystified – Ash's Blog
01:31 < Hunterkll> that's a good writeup
01:31 < Hunterkll> Device Guard is a group of key features, designed to harden a computer system against malware. Its focus is preventing malicious code from running by ensuring only known good code can run.
01:31 < Hunterkll> Credential Guard is a specific feature that is not part of Device Guard that aims to isolate and harden key system and user secrets against compromise, helping to minimize the impact and breadth of a Pass the Hash style attack in the event that malicious code is already running via a local or network based vector.
01:31 < genr8_> this page says it needs UEFI 2.6 for memory attributes table
01:32 < Hunterkll> almost all modern systems support it
01:32 < Hunterkll> 2015 would have been a bit dicier, but 2016+ systems you can assume it
01:32 < Hunterkll> or anything with recent firmware updates
01:32 < Hunterkll> i think even surface pro 2 and 3 can support it
01:32 < Hunterkll> dunno about 1
01:32 < genr8_> im always on older shit :(
01:32 < Hunterkll> my 2014 era system had support for all it needed
01:32 < Hunterkll> but it was also a Rampage V Extreme with an i7-5960X :P
01:34 < Casteil> death to all chipmunks!
01:35 < Casteil> had to execute preventative measures.. one was digging a huge tunnel near my utilities, and another chewed clean through my screen in this window
01:35 < Casteil> we were peacefully coexisting until they started causing property damage -.-
01:35 < Hunterkll> user-and-abuser, you can also set up windows to lock automatically when you walk out of range with a bluetooth enabled device
01:35 < Hunterkll> cellphone nominally
01:36 < genr8_> worst things our chipmunks ever did was block up our drainpipes
01:36 < genr8_> rain spout thing
01:36 < user-and-abuser> ok..
01:36 < Casteil> genr8_: they were also trashing my landscaping too ._.
01:36 < Casteil> frickin holes everywhere
01:37 < tomorrow__> Hi, what is the difference between the active and incoming queues of postfix?
01:37 < tomorrow__> Active = in-memory queue and incoming = disk queue?
01:37 < tomorrow__> Can anyone confirm?
01:37 < Hunterkll> genr8_, also, it has built in ransomware protection
01:37 < Hunterkll> :P
01:38 < tomorrow__> Thank you
01:38 < Hunterkll> gating access to only approved apps to selected folders
01:38 < genr8_> Hunterkll: the new windows defender + all that shit has me very excited but its just too new
01:38 < Hunterkll> genr8_, defender exploit guard configuration is already required in DoD stig and the NSA has provided an example config policy for it
01:38 < Hunterkll> lol
01:39 < genr8_> cause it was that important they probably are the ones that made M$ do it
01:39 < Hunterkll> no actually
01:39 < Hunterkll> and that's why using LTSB is so verboten in DoD circles
01:39 < Hunterkll> because they take advantage of the new features as soon as they drop
01:40 < genr8_> LTSB is just for like. lazymode for servers that dont have much going on i guess
01:40 < Hunterkll> genr8_, now this is some cool shit - https://i.imgur.com/QqeTeQH.png
01:40 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 190,660 bytes
01:40 < Hunterkll> genr8_, it's the replacement for windows embedded/windows industry including all the write filter features etc you'd expect
01:40 < genr8_> yea the advanced shit.
01:40 < user-and-abuser> works pretty good
01:40 < user-and-abuser> will email the living shit out of you
01:40 < JollyRgrs> genr8_: LTSB is for devices that woulda used CE/Embedded in the past
01:40 < Hunterkll> LTSB is pretty much relegated to kiosk systems and shit
01:40 < Hunterkll> yea
01:41 < Hunterkll> it doesn't have any of these protection features and it's limited to the silicon generation that was around when it was released
01:41 < Hunterkll> so basically, make sure your system/tech level was around in 2016 if using it, because microsoft won't be bugfixing newer chipsets and cpu issues. only 2016 and older hardware
01:41 < Casteil> Hunterkll: is that a beta or something?
01:41 < user-and-abuser> all the hardware has back doors built inanyway
01:41 < Hunterkll> Casteil, i believe these features are all in 1803
01:41 < genr8_> LTSB is dead tho right? the branch term
01:42 < genr8_> if you used latest LTSC would you get defender advanced shit?
01:42 < Hunterkll> well, now it's LTSC
01:42 < Hunterkll> or whatever
01:42 < Hunterkll> no
01:42 < Hunterkll> because LTSB 2016 == LTSC 2016
01:42 < Hunterkll> there's no newer one
01:42 < genr8_> maybe next year
01:42 < Hunterkll> that's the expectation
01:42 < JollyRgrs> LTSC? oh... C for channel?
01:42 < Hunterkll> yes
01:42 < Hunterkll> but you're basically stuck on 1607 at that point
01:42 < Hunterkll> HAH
01:42 < Hunterkll> that's cute
01:42 < Hunterkll> microsoft put some default settings into exploit protectoin
01:43 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/0Gm7OX1.png
01:43 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 102,727 bytes
01:43 < Hunterkll> they force access to have mandatory ASLR :P
01:43 < genr8_> oh yeah i saw those.
01:43 < genr8_> this is gonna be the new dumping ground for security
01:43 < Hunterkll> it's EMET on steroids, really
01:43 < Hunterkll> far better and more comprehensive
01:44 < genr8_> its a start. it at least proves they care
01:44 < Hunterkll> Windows 8 proved that
01:44 < Hunterkll> it was a huge security revamp
01:45 < genr8_> i skipped 8. dont even know what it did
01:45 < Hunterkll> and a bit of a architectural revamp in how windows in general functions
01:45 < Hunterkll> it was finally good enough for me to use as a desktop OS instead of linux
01:45 < Hunterkll> lol
01:45 < Hunterkll> I was pretty much linux only except some games from 2004 to 2011
01:45 < Hunterkll> well, and Solaris and VMS
01:45 < Casteil> linux = cancer
01:45 < Hunterkll> no no no microsoft cured linux and loves it now
01:45 < genr8_> multiple linux distros = cancer
01:46 < genr8_> debian is the one true land-race
01:46 < Hunterkll> LOL
01:46 < Hunterkll> OMFG
01:46 < Hunterkll> https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/8qjslr/thin_and_perfect/
01:46 < Hunterkll> ahahahahahahahahah
01:46 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  "Thin and perfect" : funny
01:47 < genr8_> hahah
01:51 < aName> My boss told me to learn perl. I'm already pretty familiar with python, and have some experience in a smattering of languages, so picking up another one is not a HUGE deal. However, I read a book called 'Automate The Boring Stuff With Python' and it was invaluable for the sort of things I'll be doing - is there "Automate The Boring Stuff With Perl"?
01:52 < aName> I really don't want to do it in perl, but if the boss wants perl, he gets perl, I guess
01:53 < JollyRgrs> wow.... https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/8qkysf/hey_sony_it_would_be_really_cool_to_have_my_epic/
01:53 < DLSteve> Tell your boss Perl is dead and Python is better.
01:53 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  Hey, Sony, it would be really cool to have my epic account unlocked for switch and be able to enjoy my money spent on the battle-pass : PS4
01:53 < catbeard> aName perldoc -f func
01:53 < MadCamel> if you give it a chance you might be pleasantly surprised. I can bang out one-off automation scripts a gadjillion times faster in perl
01:53 < aName> MadCamel: I can say the same of python lol
01:54 < aName> catbeard: k.
01:54 < MadCamel> but if it's something to be maintained long-term I'd say python is better. perl suffers from "more than one way to do it" .. to the point that there are really no standard ways of doing anything. Makes maintaining something through a lifecycle with multiple developers pretty painful
01:54 < JFDkthx> aName: im gonna read that book
01:54 < DLSteve> Python has a much larger eco system at this point, you can find a library for almost anything.
01:54 < catbeard> i'd pseudocode it in bash first
01:54 < catbeard> then do a language time/risk analysis
01:54 < aName> MadCamel: Which is exactly what I'm doing now - if I'm going to rewrite, maybe in something readable lol
01:54 < aName> catbeard: It already exists in perl lol
01:55 < aName> I know perl doesn't HAVE to be cryptic, but it seems to encourage it
01:55 < MadCamel> IT encourages being lazy and since it's so damn flexible lazy ends up being cryptic
01:56 < genr8_> technical debt is not encouraged
01:56 < MadCamel> If you're automating sysadminny stuff Net::FullAuto is worth a look.
01:56 < aName> Yeah but I'll be gone by then and it'll be someone else's problem
01:56 < aName> MadCamel: Reporting
01:56 < aName> MadCamel: Which of course it's our job, because we know how
01:57 < aName> MadCamel: Thanks
01:57 < aName> JFDkthx: It's so good
01:57 < aName> JFDkthx: Just super practical
02:07 < nurgle> shitpost shitpost
02:07 < nurgle> rabble
02:08 < aName> rabble rabble!
02:09 < nurgle> this last server needs to hurry up and patch
02:09 < nurgle> i dont have all night!
02:09 < nurgle> i've already worked 4 hours longer than i want
02:16 < Hunterkll> cryptic1, finally went to the doctor eh? (nsfw text) https://i.imgur.com/o4LjmLU.png
02:16 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 314,323 bytes
02:17 < nurgle> Hunterkll: is cryptic1 showing the doctor his growth
02:21 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: what's this powershell web access thing i'm seeing?
02:21 < Hunterkll> nurgle, the medication instructions say 'flush vagina to remove maggots'
02:22 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/fromthefield/2015/02/18/powershell-web-access-a-walkthrough/
02:22 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  PowerShell Web Access – a walkthrough. – FromTheField
02:22 < nurgle> gehehe Hunterkll
02:22 < JollyRgrs> i know it is from 2012 server...
02:22 < JollyRgrs> but is it advisable to setup?
02:22 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, it's just a web based powershell console
02:22 < Hunterkll> that's it
02:22 < Hunterkll> so you can use a web browser instead of psremoteing
02:23 < Hunterkll> what's the go-to shit gpu for non-gaming office only type stuff
02:23 < Hunterkll> literally MS office and web browsing
02:23 < Hunterkll> need a GPU for this core2duo i think
02:24 < nurgle> any gtx x50 series
02:24 < Hunterkll> what, not the GT 610? :p
02:24 < nurgle> might consume more power than its worth
02:25 < nurgle> or you can do what we do
02:25 < Hunterkll> nurgle, i have 2 requirements: video output and working
02:25 < nurgle> and throw a quadro p2000 in everything
02:25 < Hunterkll> bench PC in my film work area
02:25 < Hunterkll> literally all it's going to do is run iTunes and scan negatives
02:25 < Hunterkll> and maybe irc
02:25 < nurgle> then get like a 750
02:25 < nurgle> or a 950
02:25 < nurgle> for practically nothing
02:26 < Hunterkll> i'm looking in amazon's listing for pcie gpus
02:26 < Hunterkll> sorted low to high :P
02:26 < nurgle> go to the dump and grab you a voodoo2
02:26 < Hunterkll> pcie dude
02:26 < nurgle> that will at least play cs 1.6
02:26 < Hunterkll> lol
02:26 < nurgle> oh
02:26 < Hunterkll> Genuine Dell ATI Radeon X600 128MB PCI-E S-Video DVI PCI-E PCI-Express x16 Full-Height Video Graphics Card Compatible Part Numbers: CD453, FD072 Compatible Model Numbers: 109-A26030-01, 102A2604400
02:26 < Hunterkll> $8.18
02:26 < nurgle> ha
02:26 < Hunterkll> damnit
02:26 < Hunterkll> low profile bracket
02:27 < nurgle> so
02:27 < nurgle> bend the bracket
02:27 < nurgle> or take it off
02:27 < Hunterkll> no way
02:27 < nurgle> what
02:27 < Hunterkll> i've developed a fetish for having the brackets properly in place
02:27 < nurgle> bruh
02:27 < Hunterkll> mainly because i have SO MANY BLANKS that i can do this
02:27 < Hunterkll> lol
02:27 < JollyRgrs> Hunterkll: you know you got some old full profile brackets you could just hack to use :P
02:27 < Hunterkll> only blanks
02:27 < nurgle> JollyRgrs: should just be able to unscrew it.
02:27 < Hunterkll> i'm too lazy for that shit
02:27 < nojeffrey> Anyone seen windows firewall playing up with in the last week? As in blocking inbound ports that should be open
02:28 < nurgle> aight
02:28 < nurgle> time to go home
02:28 < nurgle> see you nerps in the mornin
02:28 < Hunterkll> wait
02:28 < Hunterkll> what
02:28 < Hunterkll> DIAMOND MULTIMEDIA
02:28 < Hunterkll> https://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Radeon-Express-Video-512Mb/dp/B00AEZ42A0/ref=sr_1_45?s=pc&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1528849716&sr=1-45&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_four_browse-bin%3A6030981011%2Cp_85%3A2470955011
02:28 < Hunterkll> too expensive
02:30 < Hunterkll> nurgle, fun bit - if my core 2 duo board doesn't work ..... i'm going to use an i7-7800X >_>
02:30 < Hunterkll> it's the only other spare mobo/cpu combo i have
02:30 < Hunterkll> hahahah
02:31 < Hunterkll> LGA2066 28-pcie lane CPU with DDR4 and the shittiest GPU i can get for cheap
02:31 < Hunterkll> only use 4GB ram in it
02:31 < Hunterkll> and a rotational hard drive
02:31 < Hunterkll> :3
02:36 <+giant_it_burrit> killdash9:
03:04 < MillerBOSS> @channel WAKE UP
03:04 < hug> no u
03:04 < MillerBOSS> 562 users. Someone's botnet down?
03:04  * m4221 slaps hug and MillerBOSS 
03:04  * m4221 puts MillerBOSS in a z lock
03:05 < MillerBOSS> Thanks as I pour some Pepsi
03:05 <@cryptic1> BANNED ALL THE ABUSERS
03:05 < MillerBOSS> Prove it
03:06 < MillerBOSS> I shouldn't have bought a 2 Liter bottle from Little Caesars as I am going to drink this all night.
03:06 <+AnonymooseReddtr> cryptic1 i got an idea
03:06 <+AnonymooseReddtr> perhaps we should put a tariff on US based questions? :D
03:06 <+AnonymooseReddtr> :D
03:07 < MillerBOSS> Pfft put a tariff on all US exports to Canada. 250% on dairy. Are you nuts? Get your shit from Wisconsin. Land of the cows
03:07 < MillerBOSS> Oh oh. This was about questions. ;)
03:08 <+AnonymooseReddtr> rofl
03:08 < MillerBOSS> :P
03:08 < misspwn> a liter of cola, farva?
03:08 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yeah MillerBOSS i don't understand that one
03:08 < MillerBOSS> Yeah a liter of cola
03:08 < misspwn> i'm making some chicken curry dankness
03:08 < m4221> AnonymooseReddtr: our leader says "I sofaking we todd it"
03:08 < m4221> Our us leader
03:09 < MillerBOSS> I was reading something last night peeps in West Canada go to US for dairy
03:09 < MillerBOSS> Half hour drive or something
03:09 <+AnonymooseReddtr> MillerBOSS i don't understand why really
03:09 <+AnonymooseReddtr> my mom loves to border shop
03:10 <+AnonymooseReddtr> she goes to upstate NY all the time
03:10 <+AnonymooseReddtr> or at least used to
03:10  * m4221 commences pegging MillerBOSS 
03:10 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol
03:10 < MillerBOSS> Wrong person you mean Hunterkll m4221
03:11  * m4221 pegs MillerBOSS 
03:11 < MillerBOSS> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/06/11/why-trudeau-doesnt-have-the-high-ground-on-trade
03:11 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  ⚓  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/06/11/why-trudeau-doesnt-have-the-high-ground-on-trade/?noredirect=on → Why Trudeau doesn’t have the high ground on trade - The Washington Post
03:11 < MillerBOSS> Here in Vancouver, most of the dairy in my local supermarket is produced by dairy companies based in Quebec, some 2,100 miles east. I can buy a half gallon of milk from the Agropur dairy cooperative of Longueuil for $2.85, or get a 16-ounce bottle of “Milk-to-Go” from Saputo Inc. (Saint-Laurent, Quebec) for $2.31. Buying a pound of Agropur butter costs $4.87, while 1.5 pounds of Saputo cheddar will
03:11 < MillerBOSS>  set me back $9.74.
03:12 <+AnonymooseReddtr> MillerBOSS thats interesting
03:12 < MillerBOSS> These prices are, as the U.S. president might say, terrible deals. Less than an hour’s drive south, comparable products sell for half as much in the United States, which has led to the preposterous spectacle of cheap Canadians crossing the border on milk and cheese runs, propping up the economies of border towns such as Point Roberts, Wash.
03:12 <+AnonymooseReddtr> Here where I live? (Eastern Ontario) we go to the dairy for our milk
03:12 <+AnonymooseReddtr> my wife will not drink anything other than Reids Dairy milk at this point.
03:12 < MillerBOSS> At the very least it is good to get conversations on the topic thought right?
03:12 <+AnonymooseReddtr> The taste difference is noticeable
03:13 < MillerBOSS> And I chose Lamers Dairy here in Appleton. :) So I know what she means there
03:13 <+AnonymooseReddtr> 4L of milk (bags) cost us $3.99
03:13 <+AnonymooseReddtr> cheese? lots of local cheese factories here
03:13 <+AnonymooseReddtr> in fact black diamond is made here
03:15 < MillerBOSS> $2.99 USD 1.05669 L which is a Gallon
03:15 < MillerBOSS> Which is 3.89 CAD
03:17 < MillerBOSS> And I heard it on Daily Tech Headlines no more lootboxes
03:20 < MillerBOSS> Wow this is new https://slack.com/apps/collection/actions
03:20 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Explore Slack Apps With Actions | Slack App Directory
03:21 < MillerBOSS> We use a Slack channel for it support. I have been looking for a way to create tickets from situations as they come up.
03:23 < catbeard> MillerBOSS: yes, you can open asana tasks directly from slack
03:23 < MillerBOSS> This appears new.
03:24 < MillerBOSS> Maybe its new to me. :P I planned on using Jira service desk
03:24 < catbeard> then you'll have to make an app with the actions integration
03:24 < MillerBOSS> https://slack.com/apps/A2RPP3NFR-jira-cloud won't do the job?
03:24 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Jira Cloud | Slack App Directory
03:25 < MillerBOSS> Also I wanted to host my own because of old interface
03:26 < MillerBOSS> :( >This app is only available for Jira Cloud.
03:34 <@Nostalg14c> Morning all.
03:35 < MillerBOSS> http://openemu.org/
03:35 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  OpenEmu - Multiple Video Game System
03:38 < MadCamel> openemu: open-source snake eating bird.
03:40 <@Nostalg14c> MillerBOSS: that looks dope from a glance
03:40 < MillerBOSS> You bet
03:40 < MillerBOSS> It is
03:40 < MillerBOSS> Just need macOS
03:41 < MillerBOSS> :P
03:41 <@Nostalg14c> o
03:41 <@Nostalg14c> does it actually work?
03:41 < MillerBOSS> Of course. Just drop the roms and boom you go
03:42 < MillerBOSS> And you can get ol controllers and buy the connector to USB if you want to as well
03:42 < MillerBOSS> Whats nice is the game saves, library functions and all
03:42 < MillerBOSS> Even can do game genie too
03:43 < MillerBOSS> https://www.google.com/search?q=game+genie+nes&source=lnms&tbm=isch
03:43 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  game genie nes - Google Search
03:43 < MillerBOSS> Remember that shit? lol
03:43 < MillerBOSS> https://78.media.tumblr.com/b5c4d60748ac13b7b3aeef680afb8836/tumblr_o0f4k2UMEQ1u8iryno1_500.gif
03:43 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMAGE/GIF Document, 61,717 bytes
03:44 <@Nostalg14c> lol
03:44 < MillerBOSS> I miss being a kid
03:44 <@Nostalg14c> f that
03:45 < MillerBOSS> No cares no responsibilities
03:45 < MillerBOSS> How come Nostalg14c?
03:45 <@Nostalg14c> have to do what your told
03:45 <@Nostalg14c> no freedom
03:45 <@Nostalg14c> no money
03:45 <@Nostalg14c> no sex
03:45 <@Nostalg14c> trivial relationships
03:45 < MillerBOSS> Yeah there are pros and cons for sure
03:45 <@Nostalg14c> i'd much rather ba an adult gamer than a child.
03:45 <@Nostalg14c> be*
03:52 < Alternity> eh
03:52 < Alternity> kid me had a longer attention span
03:52 < Alternity> i remember playing 50 hr rpg's
03:52 < Alternity> now i can barely pay attention to god of war
03:54 <@Nostalg14c> heh, i still have mine.
03:54 <@Nostalg14c> just other commitments.
03:56 < MadCamel> I ruined like 2 NESes with that damn game genie
03:57 < Alternity> game shark boi
03:57 < Alternity> got one for my gameboy just to hack pokemon to get mew
03:57 < Alternity> worth
03:59 < MadCamel> man that's why I'm bummed about fallout76. I don't have time to actually play a game, I just want to enable god mode and bash my way through it. online = no cheats.
04:00 < Alternity> bethesda games never did it for me.  now witcher 3 on the other hang, holy shit amazing game
04:00 < Alternity> strangely all my friends who love skyrim/fallout don't care about witcher
04:00 < Alternity> i think it represents the two type of rpg gamers
04:02 < agent_white> MadCamel: It's opposite with me; I dig the online because then there's no long-ass storyline to get through.
04:03 < Alternity> i'm so pumped for cyberpunk 2077
04:03 < Alternity> most anticipated game since witcher 3 came out, new trailer just makes me want it more
04:06 < MadCamel> yeah looks good
04:07 < Casteil> Alternity: I don't get very excited for games these days, but the fact that it's cd projekt red gives me some confidence that it won't suck
04:07 < rpifan_> so i got a lovely tan from the ridiculous TN sun
04:08 < Alternity> hopefully it comes out before 2077
04:08 < Casteil> EA/bethesda and just about everyone else who's gone the way of milking people for as much money as they can with microtransactions has made me quite the cynic
04:08 < Alternity> RED already said no microtranactions and free DLC
04:08 < Alternity> i assume they'll do paid expansions like witcher 3 assuming it sells well down the line
04:09 < Casteil> hence mine line before the last..
04:09 < rpifan_> i hate what the gaming industry is now
04:09 < rpifan_> why cant they just make mario 64
04:09 < rpifan_> 4k and be done iwth it
04:09 < catbeard> mario is surely older than 64
04:10 < Casteil> I think the only game studios I have faith in are cd projekt red and GGG (makes Path of Exile)
04:10 < Alternity> rpifan_: eh
04:10 < rpifan_> i jus dont like the compliexity
04:10 < rpifan_> and the pointlessness
04:10 < Casteil> and the fact that GGG's majority ownership has been bought probably means they're about to get tanked
04:10 < Alternity> the industry now has plenty of good games coming out
04:10 < rpifan_> nice clear games
04:11 < rpifan_> no internet connection needed
04:11 < rpifan_> no profiles needed
04:11 < Alternity> rpifan_: you know the indie game scene is doing great right
04:11 < Alternity> there are a bajillion well done pixel art platformers out there you can play right now
04:11 <+NinjaStyle> Indie games suck
04:11 < rpifan_> but indie games arent real games in the sense that iwont spend 5 dollars for an indie game
04:11 < rpifan_> or even a dollar
04:11 < rpifan_> i wouldnt even play them for free
04:11 < Alternity> uh... wut
04:11 < rpifan_> evne if tjey are good
04:11 < Alternity> u make no sense
04:12 < rpifan_> i just dont trust indie devs
04:12 < rpifan_> they have agendas
04:12 < rpifan_> of some kind
04:12 < Alternity> complains that simpler lower budget platformers don't exist anymore, doesn't want to play new well reviewed low budget platformers that are out now
04:12 < Alternity> lul
04:12 < rpifan_> also mario was not low budget
04:12 < rpifan_> it took a lot of money and effort to get shit to look that good for the era
04:13 < Alternity> ?
04:13 < rpifan_> especially mario 64
04:13 < rpifan_> wsa amzing
04:13 < Alternity> you realize the budget for a game like mario 64 is in the millions
04:13 < Alternity> the budget for a modern AAA title is 50 million+
04:13 < Alternity> the size of the teams working on these games is incomparable
04:13 < rpifan_> yea but aaa games
04:13 < rpifan_> are all now FPS
04:14 < rpifan_> and weirdo things
04:14 < Alternity> ya like witcher 3
04:14 < Alternity> and assassins creed
04:14 < Alternity> all those damn FPS games :/
04:14 < Alternity> and Zelda breath of the wild
04:14 < Hunterkll> i want an AAA budget hentai game
04:14 < Alternity> and mario odessy
04:14 < Hunterkll> made by 4chan developers
04:14 < Alternity> goddam all FPS now!
04:14 < Casteil> also rpifan_... there's more games being made now than ever before, you have the choice whether you want them simple or complex
04:14 < rpifan_> mario odessy was terrible
04:14 < Alternity> who would have guessed nintendo would convert all their classic franchises to FPS :P
04:14 < rpifan_> honestly really bad game
04:14 < Casteil> ultimately you're just getting old and crotchety
04:15 < rpifan_> or the world is changing
04:15 < rpifan_> and they like differnet htings now
04:15 < rpifan_> like bassnectar
04:15  * rpifan_ shivers
04:15 < Casteil> and donald trump
04:15 < Casteil> >.>
04:15 < rpifan_> honestly if u r on enough drugs
04:15 < rpifan_> u can enjoy anyhting
04:15 < Casteil> like donald trump?
04:15 < Casteil> >.>
04:15 < Alternity> why can't they make a AAA trump simulator
04:15 <+NinjaStyle> Bassnectar has been around for like 10 years
04:15 < rpifan_> i know
04:16 < rpifan_> i remember hearing something like that when i was in college
04:16 < rpifan_> and i thought god that shit is awful
04:16 < rpifan_> still think god that shit is awful
04:16 < rpifan_> except now music that was popular then is vintage now
04:16 < rpifan_> so its good
04:16 < rpifan_> like the killers
04:17 < Casteil> I like some bassnectar
04:17 < rpifan_> i thought thye were ok back then now there legends
04:17 < Casteil> though by and large I'm all about classic rock
04:17 < rpifan_> funny how time changes things
04:17 <+NinjaStyle> The killers suck
04:17 < rpifan_> like eminem god that shit is nasty
04:17 < rpifan_> awful
04:17 < rpifan_> i saw him for 5 minutes and left
04:17 <+NinjaStyle> You're weird
04:17 < Casteil> eminem certainly has talent
04:17 < rpifan_> enimen feels like an 16 year old white boy still trying too damn hard to make it big
04:17 < Casteil> while I don't particularly care for rap, I like some of his songs
04:17 < rpifan_> he has a nice recording studio with lots of loops
04:18 < rpifan_> and autotunes
04:18 <+NinjaStyle> He has Dre
04:18 < Casteil> are you always such a spiteful asshole?
04:18 < rpifan_> he made a few song in the day made him money now he need is to use money to make more money
04:18 < rpifan_> yes actually
04:18 <+NinjaStyle> There is more to hip hop than loops and autotune
04:19 < rpifan_> eminem sucks, trys way to damn hard and people buy in the ilusion of it
04:19 <+NinjaStyle> He's better than you
04:19 < rpifan_> same thing with snoop dog, at least he made good music once but now he is just lip syncs
04:19 <+NinjaStyle> Or me
04:19 < rpifan_> so its fun to watch but isnt really music
04:19 < rpifan_> i will say that as a i was running far away from enimne
04:20 < rpifan_> i encountered a brass band doign a jazz funeral style parade
04:20 < Casteil> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/1d/5e/1e1d5e737a28b3d308492287181000ef.png
04:20 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 101,387 bytes
04:20 < Casteil> kinda what this feels like right now
04:20 < rpifan_> and it was awesome, that was like right htere, real singing and dancing and playing instruments joined in a moment of awesome
04:20 < rpifan_> well i shave my baldness
04:21 < rpifan_> chic was also really good
04:21 < rpifan_> i was high / drunk enough that i enjoyed alice in wonderland or w/e that is for like 5 minutes before i got sober again
04:22 < rpifan_> like i said enough drugs and anyone is a great person
04:23 < rpifan_> SysAdminGoneCraZ, show tits
04:23 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: Im shy. My b-cups aren't worth it.
04:23 < Casteil> time to read myself to sleep... don't know why I always mindlessly browse for so long before heading to bed
04:24 < rpifan_> lol
04:24 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Casteil: Because we are your only friends and it's so lonely without us. :(
04:24 < Alternity> you are trying to avoid the embrace of death
04:25 < Alternity> did you ever think about the idea that you die every night when you go to sleep
04:25 < Alternity> and someone else wakes up in the morning
04:25 < rpifan_> yes
04:25 < Alternity> anyways, sleep well!
04:25 < rpifan_> sad
04:25 < rpifan_> quite sad
04:25 < rpifan_> and i had sleep anxiety dit want to sleep
04:26 < Alternity> on the upside, why stress cuz that other guy is gonna have to deal with all your shit tomorrow
04:26 < Alternity> i'm free!
04:26 < rpifan_> true
04:26 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Alternity: Some dude left?
04:27 < rpifan_> yet i still need to fix the DB at work that no one owns
04:27 < rpifan_> or has admin access somehow
04:27 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: Why fix? Build a new one and migrate :)
04:27 < rpifan_> actualllly i wrote a script that already fixes it
04:27 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Oh
04:27 < rpifan_> but i cant find anyone with permission to implement it
04:28 < rpifan_> yea the one thing i cant really get working is the autodate column
04:28 < rpifan_> it just wont let me make the change
04:28 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: Why fix? Build a new one and migrate :)
04:29 < rpifan_> well no one knows what the db does
04:29 < rpifan_> or where its located
04:29 < rpifan_> or why its there
04:29  * rpifan_ cries
04:30 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Easy. Do a scream test.
04:30 < rpifan_> like for real its so damn stressfull and stupid and idk how much longer i can tkae the stupidity. They keep hiring software devs but they have zero concern for the infrastructure and corruption...
04:30 < rpifan_> whats the scream test
04:30 <@cryptic1> who made Hunterkll op?
04:30 < rpifan_> his momma
04:30 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: disable it and wait for people to scream/yell about who turned it off. Then you know who needs it and what it does.
04:31 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: By disable, I mean turn off networking on that DB so nothing connects to it.
04:31 < rpifan_> i dont have access to the db
04:31 < rpifan_> or where its hosted
04:31 < rpifan_> all i have is some permission that include update and delete
04:31 < rpifan_> but only on one db
04:31 < rpifan_> and idk i cant even describe it
04:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: Welp, I can't help you there lol
04:32 < rpifan_> safe to say even a senior dev didnt have full admin access, ive asked everyone
04:32 < rpifan_> i asked infrasture he said ask a senior dev he said ask the team she said ask the infrastrcuture
04:32 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: How are you even connecting to it?
04:33 < rpifan_> mysql workbench to some .local address
04:34 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: is .local your internal domain?
04:35 < rpifan_> what i gathered is that we lifted and shifted everything into aws we have into the dev area and a dev wif network
04:36 < rpifan_> i have no aws access tho directly
04:36 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: Then I guess it's not your problem.
04:36 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: Can't fix what you can't access. Can't access what you can't find.
04:37 < rpifan_> you are right technicaly its not but we as tech support constantly mess around with that db addig stuff deletig stuff making changes with no kind of logs
04:37 < rpifan_> or locking anything
04:38 < rpifan_> so its kinda my problem cause no one else seems to see a corelation
04:39 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: Okay. So if that DB takes a shit, what can you or anyone else do about it?
04:39 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: Nothing, right? Because no one knows where it is, No one has Admin to do anything and no one knows if it's even being backed up.
04:40 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: So the only solution would be to rebuild it.
04:40 < rpifan_> so r u saying that i should make the db take a dump
04:40 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: You can't even do that lol
04:41 < rpifan_> well one thing is for sure all of ours db are getting more and more corrupted and duplicated and messy
04:41 < rpifan_> anyday now they will explode or get hacked
04:42 < rpifan_> i dont understand why anyone hasnt targeted the business
04:42 < rpifan_> we are literally number one on google
04:43 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan_: When I type "Number 1" in google, I get a youtube video of Lazy Town.
04:43 < rpifan_> number one in our aquaeous industry
04:44 < misspwn> ugh lazy town
04:44 < misspwn> funny when i type  "Number 1" i get misspwn is so awesome
04:44 < rpifan_> oh hey misspwn how r u
04:44 < rpifan_> i think of you often
04:44 < misspwn> <
04:44 < rpifan_> as the best non male irc human
04:44 < misspwn> <3
04:45 < misspwn> i'm great today although i did just basically punch myself in the face trying to get my glasses off to wash my hair. i keep forgetting i dn't wear glasses anymore
04:46 < rpifan_> oh no
04:46 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn: Maybe, in this case, you should. For your own safety
04:46 < rpifan_> yea that happens, did u get lasered
04:46 < misspwn> i did! i got lasik on friday
04:47 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn: Did your night vision suffer?
04:47 < misspwn> owb rpifan_
04:48 < misspwn> SysAdminGoneCraZ, i mean it's too early to tell i haven't driven at night yet and i've only been out once at night which was the first night i got it done. there was deff a gigantic noticable halo/glare around any light
04:48 < misspwn> but he warned me of that
04:49 < rpifan_> i already have halos and glare on my eyes
04:49 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn: Yeah. Same here. I had PRK done about 12 years ago.
04:49 < rpifan_> apaparently its cause i have rubbed my eyes so much cuase of my terrible alleriges it basically destroyed my eyeballs
04:49 < rpifan_> i wanted to try PRK
04:49 < misspwn> rpifan_, i had it before hand
04:49 < rpifan_> not prk
04:49 < rpifan_> there is a differnet one
04:49 < misspwn> he said it takes a bit for that to wear off(the halo or glare)
04:50 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn: It never goes away.
04:50 < rpifan_> well i dont think it would get any better if i get my balls lasered
04:50 < misspwn> welp
04:50 < misspwn> if it doesn't go away i'll deal with it. i could still see at night
04:50 < misspwn> better than being legally blind like i was. went from 20/500 to 20/15
04:51 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn: Bascially, night driving for me is like staring into a bunch of tiny suns. I have to sometimes squint to reduce the glares. On=coming traffic at night sucks.
04:51 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn: Enjoy it, eagle eye.
04:51 < misspwn> yeah it was pretty awful being a passenger the first night, almost as if i was tripping on acid although i've never done that
04:52 < misspwn> i guess the best way to describe it to someone who has never experienced that would be this photo https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZb_ZRN2z4SQbVPJEfNrGhlcP0TD6adbDeJdfCsinoq8LDo2KrtQ
04:52 <+layer-eight> * misspwn →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 6,835 bytes
04:53 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> I think the best explaination I can give people of what I first experienced the few weeks of night driving was ... that scene when you first see the millennium falcon go into hyper drive. The stars sctrech out and everything.
04:53 < rpifan_> yea thats my daily vision misspwn
04:53 < misspwn> christ
04:54 < rpifan_> plus i have my urgent surgeris like my hair
04:54 < misspwn> i wouldn't want to even open my eyes
04:54 < rpifan_> also when i had my testicle removed they said thye just stitched up my remainig sperm cord with some silk and let it stay there
04:54 < rpifan_> im like cant ti just burst
04:54 < rpifan_> and then ibe dead in second
04:54 < rpifan_> he iwas like nah
04:54 < rpifan_> and im like hmm
04:54 < rpifan_> i think its possible
04:54 < misspwn> haha what
04:55 < misspwn> it's not like a major artery
04:55 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> whatttt? lol
04:55 < misspwn> i can't even with that
04:55 < misspwn> sperm cord and some silk
04:55 < rpifan_> well i imagine it has blood in it
04:55 < rpifan_> and if it breaks
04:55 < misspwn> just pinch it
04:55 < rpifan_> ill bleed internally
04:55 < misspwn> nahhhhhh
04:56 < misspwn> i'll pinch your sperm cord to keep yo alive
04:56 < rpifan_> i cant
04:56 < rpifan_> its deep inside me
04:56 < rpifan_> i wouldnt know where to find it
04:56 < CoJaBo> wat
04:57 < misspwn> brb to google sperm cords
04:57 <+NinjaStyle> Wtf
04:57 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> WTF is going on lol
04:57 <@Nostalg14c> name relevant.
04:57 < CoJaBo> I always come in just as weird is going on
04:57 <@Nostalg14c> If only those blasted ops would do something for once.
04:57 < misspwn> pretty sure he was talking about a partial vasectomy? i dont know
04:58 < CoJaBo> A ballectomy. Which I'm pretty sure isn't the proper name for that, but whatever.
04:58 < misspwn> SysAdminGoneCraZ, so can you wear like an anti glare glasses at night to help with that or no? i know they make ones for computers that have the blue filter and anti glare coating
04:59 < misspwn> omg rpifan i thought u died
04:59 < rpifan> sorry my internet tubes are as unreliable as my sperm tubes lol
04:59 < misspwn> hah
05:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn: That's a good question. I never really tried. For me, it's not like that anymore. The glad and halos are definitely still there, but either my eyes have adjusted over time or my mind is correcting what it's seeing. The only time it's really bad now is when people drive with their highbeams ... which is all the time apparently here in Texas.
05:00 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> the glare**
05:01 < misspwn> high beams are real bad for that. sometimes people have those blue lights? i forget what they are called but one time i flashed my brights at someone because i thought they had theirs on, turns out their brights are even brighter
05:01 < misspwn> anyway, hate those lights before
05:01 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> lol
05:02 < rpifan> among the reason im glad i dont drive anymore
05:02 < misspwn> driving through texas i noticed that people aren't all totally clueless when it comes to driving.
05:02 < rpifan> anyone want to see me at the bonnaroo arch, i have a human face pic but idk yall like i cant show yall ym dog hood tho
05:03 < misspwn> i mean you're going to get the shit drivers and the ones who go slow in the passing lanes but for the most part i enjoyed driving through texas
05:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan: My dude, how old are you? lol
05:03 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan: Not for nothing, but you sound old,  broken and ready to die, or something lol
05:04 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> rpifan: I can picture you in an Iron Lung lol
05:04 < misspwn> on a scale of "have you seen bebes kids" when it came out, how old are you
05:04 < misspwn> i bet rpifan is 24
05:05 < genr8_> i want to hear about bonnaroo
05:05 < rpifan> like 24 years old?
05:05 < misspwn> yah how old are you rpifan ? we gota know
05:05 < rpifan> a fully grown and developed balding male with one testicle
05:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> So .. 18?
05:06 <+NinjaStyle> 27
05:06 < misspwn> so 26?
05:06 < misspwn> i mean i've had grey hair since i was 18 and know people balding before their 30s
05:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Shit, I went bald at 22.
05:06 <+NinjaStyle> Balding sucks
05:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Only if you don't won and embrace it.
05:06 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> own*
05:07 < misspwn> did you at least get a glow in the dark artificial testical?
05:07 <+NinjaStyle> By shaving your head?
05:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Plus I was military, so it worked out for me.
05:07 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> NinjaStyle: Yea man. Make that shit as smooth as eggs.
05:07 < misspwn> rpifan, i'm going to be 32 soon, it's not that bad
05:07 < rpifan> imgur.com/a/b60lf7P
05:07 < rpifan> hmm
05:07 < rpifan> one sec
05:08 <+NinjaStyle> No secs
05:08 < rpifan> https://imgur.com/a/b60If7P
05:08 <+layer-eight> * rpifan →  IMGUR Album → 2 minutes ago → 1 Image → ⚘ 0
05:08 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> in the champagne room
05:08 < rpifan> i have a beter one
05:09 < rpifan> but thats the first that i pulled up
05:09 < misspwn> yah so you're like 20
05:09 < rpifan> nah if i had hear id probaby llook like 20
05:09 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> OMG just give us a number, fam.
05:09 < genr8_> so was it life changing ?
05:09 < rpifan> im not your fam brah
05:09 < rpifan> no
05:09 < rpifan> roo was meh
05:09 < rpifan> kinda fun
05:10 < rpifan> but not as fun as okechobee
05:10 < misspwn> https://imgur.com/a/W4nJbpD there no dox pls since we're doin this
05:10 <+layer-eight> * misspwn →  IMGUR Album → a minute ago → 1 Image → ⚘ 0
05:10 < misspwn> and i told you how old i was!
05:10 < rpifan> okechobe was life chaning
05:10 < rpifan> im 30
05:10 < rpifan> is that u misspawn
05:10 < misspwn> ya
05:10 < rpifan> well u look like ud be into the rave / festie scene
05:11 < technonerd> Hint hint punk
05:11 < misspwn> if by rave you mean a ska festival sure
05:11 < rpifan> that works too
05:11 < rpifan> id go to any camping fest
05:11 < rpifan> i dont care about the music
05:11 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> :O
05:11 < rpifan> as much as i care about wathcing ppl snort coke nad fuck in public
05:11 < rpifan> thats the fun part
05:12 < misspwn> i'm all about ska and punk and variations but now days i'm all about getting the VIP so i don't have to sit in some portashitter in the dessert
05:12 < misspwn> desert? i always get those messed up
05:12 < rpifan> some normal camp sites had flushable toilets
05:12 < rpifan> we didnt cause
05:12 < rpifan> i stayed at the tent only area
05:12 < rpifan> which was clsoe to centeroo
05:12 < rpifan> but meh
05:12 < misspwn> so bonaroo is like a giant rave?
05:13 < rpifan> nah
05:13 < rpifan> 'roo is a new style music fest
05:13 < rpifan> overly corporate, lots of cops
05:13 < rpifan> some fun but everythign is really tightened down
05:13 < misspwn> so not like schwagstock or whatever what kind of music is played?
05:13 < MikeSpears> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH9FyLsfDzw
05:13 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  YouTube → Toto - Africa (metal cover by Leo Moracchioli feat. Rabea & Hannah) → ⚘ 22,409,699 ↑ 304,476 ↓ 17,221 ✍ 21,477
05:13 < genr8_> they have a large variety of normal music
05:13 < genr8_> to varying eclectic stuff, and also electronic
05:14 < binaryhermit> my uncle was going bald in high school, apparently
05:14 < rpifan> yea it depends
05:14 < rpifan> there was some variety
05:14 < binaryhermit> he ended up becoming a doctor, so it seems to have worked out for him ok
05:14 < rpifan> my favoriate part was the silent disco
05:14 < genr8_> You can go to the type of music you want
05:14 < rpifan> that played 80s all night
05:15 < rpifan> i danced so hard, i was sweaty like 10 skin layers deep
05:15 < rpifan> my clothes are like penetrated deep with sweat at the molecular level lol
05:15 < misspwn> man that sounds like fun
05:15 < misspwn> i could jam to some 80s music
05:15 < misspwn> so bonaroo is like a big radio
05:15 < genr8_> a lot of the festivals have silent disco now
05:15 < genr8_> its become a thing
05:16 < genr8_> yea the music is always playing out of like every different angle
05:16 < misspwn> silent disco, i actually had to look that up
05:16 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> MikeSpears: Gave it a listen. Not a metal dude, at all, but thanks for the link
05:16 < misspwn> that sounds fun too
05:16 < genr8_> if you camp in tent camping you only have like 2 hours of silence at the end of the night before the sun/heat wakes you back up
05:17 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> Alrighty, I'm outtie.
05:17 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> misspwn: Don't keep poking your eyes out. We need you here.
05:17 < genr8_> it did get too corporatized though. last time i went was 2011
05:18 < SysAdminGoneCraZ> later
05:18 < misspwn> 10/4 SysAdminGoneCraZ
05:18 < genr8_> 2012 mighta been the best year
05:18 < misspwn> seeya!
05:18 < rpifan> man im missing a lot of conversatons cause my shit keeps timing out
05:18 < genr8_> this years lineup wasnt exactly gonna draw me from 800 miles away
05:18 < genr8_> set up a thing
05:22 < abakedapplepie> facebook reminded me i was at roo 5 years ago this weekend
05:24 < MikeSpears> misspwn: I escaped spectrum
05:24 < MikeSpears> lol
05:24 < rpifan_> abakedapplepie, i was tlaking to some girls and they said 4 years ago
05:24 < rpifan_> roo was crazy like ppl would walk around with signs selling drug
05:25 < rpifan_> nd the artits will just snort coke on the stage
05:25 < abakedapplepie> i would be shocked if people werent still effortlessly selling drugs
05:25 < abakedapplepie> but i never saw people do coke on stage
05:25 < misspwn> MikeSpears, !
05:25 < abakedapplepie> at movement one year flying lotus shared a blunt with the crowsd, that was neat
05:26 < rpifan_> trust me its really hard now to move stuff around
05:26 < misspwn> welcome to the ex specrtum crowd, what happend, how are you going forward?
05:26 < rpifan_> me the 30 year old bald man got asked if i had drugs to sell
05:26 < rpifan_> im like do i really look like a drug dealer
05:26 < MikeSpears> got a new job, still help desk stuff, but higher level, 3 month contract tho.. (also trying for a position at VIPRE, got the 2nd interview on Thursday)
05:27 < MikeSpears> got pissed at the bullshit and low pay, got another job, then noped the fuck out
05:27 < rpifan_> maybe its cause i was weraing my homemade tie dye shorts and button up shirt
05:27 < mal_will> I only buy drugs from 30 year old bald men...
05:27 < misspwn> hah
05:27 < mal_will> Am I doing this incorrectly?
05:27 < MikeSpears> yes
05:27 < MikeSpears> those might be cops
05:27 < mal_will> Hrmm
05:27 < MikeSpears> if they're bikers, you're fine
05:27 < misspwn> eh it's better than the guy offering you other drugs in saran wrap balls
05:28 < abakedapplepie> every tent camping festival ive been to, ive been approached within 10 minutes of parking
05:28 < misspwn> MikeSpears, that's awesome though :)
05:28 < mal_will> I take what I'm given and I don't talk back
05:28 < mal_will> Saran and all
05:28 < MikeSpears> lol
05:28  * misspwn slides mal_will a saran wrap ball
05:29 < misspwn> don't worry it's just the left twix
05:29 < mal_will> Kinda small to be a twix
05:29 < rpifan_> lol
05:29 < mal_will> But aight
05:29 < rpifan_> so that was a little upsetting needless to say i said no bye bye
05:29 < rpifan_> tho on the other hand i was walking around centeroo and this girl from the clean vibes croo askes me what time it is
05:30 < misspwn> listen here, i can't afford no full size candy bar
05:30 < MikeSpears> Lol
05:30 < rpifan_> and i say 4:20, i take a few steps forward then i laugh and shes like u wanna hit the dab pen
05:30 < rpifan_> and im like fuck yes
05:30 < rpifan_> lol
05:30 < mal_will> Then why are you charging $40
05:30 < mal_will> Jk idk
05:30 < mal_will> Wooks tho
05:30 < misspwn> i gota hustle!
05:30 < MikeSpears> Ugh I dont wanna go to bed yet
05:30 < MikeSpears> Fuuuuuuuu
05:30 < misspwn> avocado toast isn't free yano
05:30 < MikeSpears> Damn millennials
05:30 < rpifan_> also what exactly are tabs again
05:30 < mal_will> I fuck heavy with avocado toast
05:30 < MikeSpears> Lol
05:31 < misspwn> hah
05:31 < mal_will> And paprika
05:31 < MikeSpears> Back in my day toast was bread with butter and we didnt always have butter
05:31 < misspwn> mmmmm
05:31 < MikeSpears> Or bread
05:31 < MikeSpears> Lmfao
05:32 < misspwn> you had a wish sandwich
05:32 < MikeSpears> Lmao
05:32 < MikeSpears> I need to do avacodo toast sometime
05:32 < MikeSpears> It looks pretty fucking dope
05:33 < abakedapplepie> god damn hipsters
05:33 < abakedapplepie> also i dont do toast
05:33 < abakedapplepie> i do english muffins
05:33 < abakedapplepie> motherfucker
05:33 < rpifan_> are tabs lsd
05:33 < misspwn> man, english muffins have that cornmeal shit that messes with the texture feels but i'll eat it
05:33 < abakedapplepie> usually
05:34 < rpifan_> thats what i thought
05:34 < rpifan_> but that was what the guy asked
05:34 < rpifan_> u got any tabs
05:35 < rpifan_> and first thing was to say no second thing was hmm what was that about
05:35 < mal_will> Smoked paprika lends an extra dimension.
05:35 < rpifan_> lol smoked tabs
05:35 < rpifan_> local and organic
05:35 < mal_will> Black pepper, salt, and if you're feeling like some work, then some crispy garlic will round it out
05:36 < misspwn> making me hungry thinking about all that zing
05:37 < MikeSpears> Lol
05:37 < MikeSpears> Fucking hell I gotta sleep soon
05:37 < MikeSpears> Gotta get up early
05:37 < rpifan_> dont sleep
05:37 < rpifan_> no sleep
05:37 < MikeSpears> Need to start getting up at 6:30am
05:37 < rpifan_> centeroo is always open
05:37 < MikeSpears> Lol
05:38 < rpifan_> i actually passed out on the lawn waiting for for kaskade
05:38 < rpifan_> i only woke up when people started to trample me at the bon iver show
05:39 < rpifan_> i really did want to see him but i was so damn tired, its so ahrd to sleep in that damn tent with the sun and then my tent flooded with the rain
05:39 < misspwn> its approaching bedtime too. probably should be asleep right now, but i'm looking at edible arrangements....
05:40 < rpifan_> edible dabs and resin
05:40 < MikeSpears> Drugs are bad mkayyy
05:41 < misspwn> well this is actual edible arrangments for the fruit shit
05:41 < MikeSpears> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ymhLRe53/south-park-s02e04c01-drugs-are-bad-4x3.jpg
05:41 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 46,504 bytes
05:41 < MikeSpears> Lol
05:41 < misspwn> i thought i should send a thank you thing to the lasik peeps but i realize this is so overpriced for just fruit
05:41 < genr8_> you ever wanna eat a whole edible arrangement by yourself?
05:42 < rpifan_> lol send them a blunt
05:42 < rpifan_> tell them its for gluacoma
05:42 < MikeSpears> https://youtu.be/Uh7l8dx-h8M
05:42 < misspwn> genr8_, yeah man, but not the pineapple because it's probably not ripe enough
05:42 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → South Park - Mr Mackey - Drugs are bad MKAY → ⚘ 1,629,906 ↑ 7,284 ↓ 163 ✍ 886
05:42 < genr8_> always with the unripe hard ass pineapples
05:48 < rpifan_> my pineable is so hard right now lol
05:51 < MikeSpears> Night people
05:55 < rpifan_> hi
06:02 < Sousapro> Lol everyone is getting all salty with Sony pulling the same crap that Microsoft did until about a year into Xbox one (when they had obviously started to lose)
06:02 < Sousapro> I remember being told to shut it multiple times when I was saying the exact same things last gen
06:03 < rpifan_> idk what u talking about
06:03 < rpifan_> except they stole the hub for gits
06:03 < Sousapro> Sony blocking crossplay with xbox
06:03 < Sousapro> Microsoft is begging now
06:04 < Sousapro> Has been for about a year because it would stop people from bailing on the platform
06:04 < Sousapro> I'm not defending Sony's behavior but I am enjoying Microsoft's salty tears
06:06 < rpifan_> why cant we all be friends
06:06 < rpifan_> i just want a pokemon gold remake
06:06 < rpifan_> a new animal crossing and a yoshi game
06:06 < rpifan_> i never even played AC it was gonna come out whe ni was kid
06:06 < rpifan_> but i couldnt get it, it looked so fun
07:48 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
07:48 <+layer-eight> BOFH Static from plastic slide rules
07:48 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
07:48 <+layer-eight> BOFH Simm crosstalk.
07:48 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
07:48 <+layer-eight> BOFH Melting hard drives
07:48 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
07:48 <+layer-eight> BOFH Our pop server was kidnapped by a weasel.
07:48 < MillerBOSS> Wow these are lame
07:48 < MillerBOSS> Wow these are lame
07:48 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
07:48 <+layer-eight> BOFH Due to the cda, we no longer have a root account.
07:48 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
07:48 <+layer-eight> BOFH User was distributing pornography on server; system seized by fbi.
07:49 < MillerBOSS> There you go
07:52 < MillerBOSS> Wow this looks neat https://us.hikvision.com/en/products/cameras/network-camera/smart-series/specialty/multi-sensor/panovu-20mp-flexible-series-camera-ds-2cd6d54fwd-izhs
07:53 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  PanoVu 20MP Flexible Series Camera | Hikvision US | The world’s largest video surveillance manufacturer
07:53 < MillerBOSS> $1400 isn't bad for that
07:54 <+A-KO> nano boosted Soldier 76 is great
08:05 < plop> morning suckers
08:05 < rhqq> plop: die in hell
08:06 < plop> only if i could...
08:11 <+NinjaStyle> Cheerful group
08:11 < plop> yay
08:19 < plop> 101 firewall uptime! i can't believe it.
08:23 < abakedapplepie> 101 what
08:24 < nojeffrey> fuck me https://stackoverflow.com/a/29483045/1233777
08:24 <+layer-eight> * nojeffrey →  ⚓  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16756174/python-one-line-function-definition/29483045#29483045 → python one line function definition - Stack Overflow
08:24 < plop> 101 days
08:26 < abakedapplepie> nojeffrey: lol
08:26 < plop> so, in my servers and storage, out of 2 power supplies i have one plugged in to the UPS and the other one plugged in a non UPS line... do you do the same?
08:27 < plop> i only have 2 physical servers and 1 san btw
08:27 < abakedapplepie> just get a second UPS
08:28 < plop> abakedapplepie, that should be an option, but not sure if they'll pay for it.,
08:34 < nohusuro> plop: we have an automatic transfer switch
08:34 < plop> nohusuro, i'll check this. thanks.
08:34 < nohusuro> mostly to protect equipment with single power supplies though
08:35 < nohusuro> a second UPS is definitely the right choice
08:35 < plop> i understand. i'll have a look. probably APC will have some products, right?
08:36 < plop> yeah, the problem is people doesn't care if a plug is white or red, and they plug whatever they want to the red ones...
08:36 < plop> we had some problems on the no ups lines and kitchen decided to plug a heavy thing into the UPS line... so  crash
08:38 < nojeffrey> plop we do the same, 1 psu to UPS, 1 to wall
08:39 < plop> nojeffrey, cool. so it is a kind of a standard way. poor man way
08:43 < nojeffrey> plop dont know whats standard, guessing if you have the money put everything on through UPS, but it works for us
08:44 < plop> yeah, the problem is in this company nobody cares about other departments but their own, so i can ask not to use the red plugs but they dont' care.
08:47 < nojeffrey> Do you have a locked server room?
08:50 < plop> nojeffrey, kinda locked. there is a rack for the audio and video for the place so, there is some non-it guys with access. but the ups has plugs all over the building
08:51 < nojeffrey> Look at getting a rackmount UPS in a locked cabinet, then even if they pull the power or overload a circuit, you should have 20-30 minutes to fix it, if you have monitoring in place
08:52 < nojeffrey> so certain powerpoints are wired into a ups somewhere else? never seen that
08:52 < plop> yeah. i'll check it. 3kva should be enough for that i guess.
08:52 < plop> yeah, for the computers basically.
08:53 < nojeffrey> we have 4U worth of UPS in a rack, it supplies ~5 servers, a SAN, a core stack of switches,  and about 12 other smaller devices, we get about 25minutes of battery
08:54 < nohusuro> plop: you have building wiring going back to a rack UPS?
08:54 < nohusuro> that's not what they're designed for
08:54 < nohusuro> if you want individual computer protection, give them individual UPS'
08:54 < MillerBOSS> Wow I need these https://youtu.be/OLRDnOZRIdg
08:54 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLRDnOZRIdg&feature=youtu.be → YouTube → Hikvision Dark Fighter Motion Tracking PTZ → ⚘ 54,048 ↑ 76 ↓ 18 ✍ 18
08:54 < plop> not is not a rack ups. it is a 10kva big ass UPS with a line for the DC and another one for the rest.
08:54 < plop> nohusuro, yeah.. but i didn't plan this. i found it this way
08:55 < MillerBOSS> Start at 2 minutes
08:55 < nohusuro> get a separate UPS for your rack then
08:55 < nohusuro> then it doesn't matter if someone trips the big bastard
08:55 < plop> nohusuro, yeah. i'll ask for one. see what management says
08:56 < plop> goping to a meeting. talk to you later. thanks nohusuro and nojeffrey
08:56 < nojeffrey> Also the panel on the UPS said we'd get ~90 minutes of battery, based on the load, but in testing it's only about 25min
08:58 < matty_r> g'day all
08:58 < matty_r> whats the best way to remote install Windows updates? (Server 2008 R2)
08:59 < matty_r> THe updates are retrieved via WSUS
09:00 < nojeffrey> does the server know to look at your wsus server?
09:00 < matty_r> Yea, it's getting the updates fine. But the process now requires me to login and press "Install updates"
09:01 < matty_r> Maybe there is a way for WSUS to force install?
09:01 < nojeffrey> GPO > Allow Automatic Updates immediate installation Enabled ?
09:01 < matty_r> I don't want to do Auto updates
09:02 < matty_r> I want to actually trigger the installation - but I don't want to remote into each server to start the install
09:03 < nojeffrey> Hmm not sure
09:04 < nojeffrey> wmic /node:@"C:\AD\ListofComputers.txt" process call create "C:\windows\system32\wuauclt.exe /somewinupdatecommandthatIdontknowof
09:06 < nojeffrey> maybe /UpdateNow
09:06 < matty_r> http://www.systemcentercentral.com/tip-list-of-undocumented-wuauclt-command-parameters/
09:06 <+layer-eight> * matty_r →  TIP: List of Undocumented WUAUCLT Command Parameters - System Center Central
09:06 < matty_r> that might be a goer
09:09 < matty_r> that looks legit - thanks for that mate
09:09 < matty_r> Whats the structure of the Listofcomputers.txt?
09:09 < matty_r> just ip addresses?
09:10 < nojeffrey> newline seperated list of machines
09:10 < nojeffrey> for me I use hostnames
09:10 < matty_r> ok sweet
09:11 < nojeffrey> you can just do: wmic /node:'single-machine-name'
09:11 < matty_r> beautiful, I was just about to try that
09:11 < matty_r> ha ha
09:11 < nojeffrey> if all your servers are in the same subnet I have a PS script to find all active machines and write to txt file
09:13 < matty_r> Invalid Global switch
09:13 < nojeffrey> for wmic or wauaclt?
09:13 < matty_r> no idea
09:13 < nojeffrey> heh
09:14 < matty_r> wmic
09:14 < matty_r> is that right?
09:14 < matty_r> whoops
09:14 < matty_r>  /user:uesrname /password:Password
09:14 < matty_r> is that valid?
09:14 < nojeffrey> if running from a domain admin account, shouldn't need it
09:14 < nojeffrey> this worked for me a few months ago: wmic /node:@"C:\AD\ListOfActiveADComputers.txt" process call create "C:\windows\system32\wuauclt.exe /detectnow /reportnow"
09:15 < matty_r> complaining about /NODE
09:16 < nojeffrey> try without the quotes
09:16 < nojeffrey> so /node:foo
09:16 < nojeffrey> anyway quitting time, adios
09:16 < matty_r> didn't like it still
09:16 < matty_r> ay
09:16 < matty_r> get back here
09:16 < matty_r> lol
09:17 < matty_r> doeesn't like the DNS name
09:17 < nojeffrey> does 'nslookup foo' work?
09:17 < matty_r> yep
09:17 < matty_r> it accepted it when I put in the ip
09:17 < nojeffrey> do you want to do this against heaps of servers or only 1?
09:18 < matty_r> just one for now
09:18 < matty_r> now i'm getting access denied
09:18 < matty_r> weird
09:18 < matty_r> I put in credentials
09:18 < genr8_> you have to log in once first with credentials
09:19 < matty_r> Had to put the credentials in quotations it seems
09:20 < genr8_> heh
09:21 < matty_r> I don't even know if it's worked
09:22 < matty_r> just checking the event viewer now
09:23 < matty_r> I think it's done something
09:44 < Phendrana> are there any commands/settings for MacOS that aren't deprecated to set a password fail limit of like 10.
09:44 < Phendrana> then it locks the account, or something
09:54 < AustinS> Phendrana, as far as I know, no
09:56 < MillerBOSS> Phendrana 👉 Try https://macadmins.herokuapp.com/
09:56 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Join MacAdmins on Slack!
10:06 <+ihre> lol, when you dont need support, a lot of new sites have a popup in the lower right to start chatting... when you actually need support the same popup doesnt show up :p
10:19 < plop> ihre, lol
10:24 < Tecuane> anyone use mimecast and know if you can modify outbound headers?
10:35 < MillerBOSS> plop 👉 Don't you have Hikvision cameras?
10:41 < IonutVan_> on windows, should I install/use https://git-scm.com/download/win or https://gitforwindows.org/ ?
10:41 <+layer-eight> * IonutVan_ →  Git for Windows
10:41 <+layer-eight> * IonutVan_ →  Git - Downloading Package
10:42 < Tecuane> They are one and the same.
10:42 < Tecuane> You'll notice the "maintained build" link on git-scm.com links to git-for-windows.github.io
10:42 <+ihre> imo, both are rather shitty, git with cmder was okay, https://github.com/cmderdev/cmder
10:43 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  GitHub → cmderdev → cmder → Lovely console emulator package for Windows → @ ~ 3 days ago → C++ → ✡ 14,472 → Forks: 1,020 → ☹ 270
10:43 < IonutVan_> Tecuane, yes, it seems are the same :)
10:47 < plop> MillerBOSS, yes. i do. and the videoserver is crap.
10:49 < plop> they probably have better options
10:50 < MillerBOSS> What is the video server?
10:50 < MillerBOSS> Like model etc?
10:51 < plop> let me check
10:51 < plop> is not my department. security manages it.
10:54 < MillerBOSS> Oh I thought you do all IT. Well they should be below you then. :P
10:55 < plop> MillerBOSS, hahaha
10:55 < plop> this is not IT in our company, model is https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1252445-REG/hikvision_ds_9632ni_i8_42tb_ds_9632ni_i8_32_channel_nvr_42tb.html
10:55 <+layer-eight> * plop →  Hikvision DS-9632NI-I8 32-Channel NVR (42TB) DS-9632NI-I8-42TB
10:55 < plop> i just provide network to them and firewall config
10:55 < MillerBOSS> I am using ZoneMinder at all locations and a total of 57 cameras at this point
10:56 < MillerBOSS> Owner said install cameras. I said OK. :P
10:56 < plop> hahaha well done
10:57 < MillerBOSS> So why is it crap?
10:58 < plop> interface is bad, when using web you can only use ie (not even edge) because of plugins, when using the software and watching some cameras, cpu very high, and it is an i7...
10:58 < plop> do searches in the recordings is bad also.
10:59 < MillerBOSS> Are you guys using iVMS with it? http://www.hikvisioneurope.com/portal/?dir=portal/Software%202018/01%20%20%20Video%20Management%20Software
10:59 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  DOWNLOAD PORTAL
10:59 < plop> yes
11:00 < plop> also, we don't have the admin password for the videoserver.
11:00 < MillerBOSS> I have 19 DS-2CD2042WD-I and need to run ZoneMinder on a dual hex core
11:00 < MillerBOSS> At one location that is
11:00 < plop> i see
11:00 < MillerBOSS> I am now looking at h265 cams to upgrade
11:00 < MillerBOSS> And PTZ
11:00 < MillerBOSS> https://www.amazon.com/X-ElectronicS-HIKVISION-Megapixel-2560x1920-DS-2CD2355FWD-I/dp/B076WYRHY3
11:01 < plop> are you happy with the quality of the cameras?
11:01 < MillerBOSS> Oh fuck yeah
11:01 < plop> i used to sell mobotix
11:01 < MillerBOSS> Especially for the price
11:01 < plop> they're cool but decentralized and expensive
11:02 < MillerBOSS> I mean I am using low mm and am learning as I go. I can catch license plates its to grainy when zooming in
11:02 < MillerBOSS> Also watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMnmwqE9bBs its funny but I wonder the cost of iVMS 5200 Pro
11:02 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  YouTube → Hikvision iVMS 5200Pro → ⚘ 63,976 ↑ 146 ↓ 9 ✍ 0
11:02 < MillerBOSS> I never heard of mobotix.
11:02 < plop> yeah, the quality is not there.
11:03 < plop> mobotix is german. 6mpx i believe, really nice
11:04 < MillerBOSS> The Quility of what is not there?
11:04 < MillerBOSS> The 5200?
11:04 < plop> no no. the hikvision cameras we have
11:04 < MillerBOSS> Oh.
11:05 < MillerBOSS> https://www.hikvision.com/en/Products/Network-Camera/EasyIP-2.0/4MP/DS-2CD2042WD-I is what I got
11:05 < MillerBOSS> So I bet you have something lower resolution?
11:06 < plop> yeah probably...
11:06 < MillerBOSS> And I run mine at 4FPS
11:06 < MillerBOSS> That will help with he NVR load
11:06 < MillerBOSS> the
11:06 < plop> i haven't even checked, the more i know the more i need to take care of hah
11:06 < MillerBOSS> Ha ha
11:06 < MillerBOSS> I hear that
11:06 < plop> now i'm about to install this https://imgur.com/a/u8XIFBD
11:06 <+layer-eight> * plop →  IMGUR Album → a few seconds ago → 1 Image → ⚘ 0
11:07 < MillerBOSS> What is it?
11:08 < plop> now i have a crap dlink consumer AP acting as a bridge for a pos printer but it's disconnecting now and then. this is the propietary epson wifi adapter for their pos printers
11:08 < MillerBOSS> Can't do wired huh?
11:08 < plop> i hope this solves the problem
11:08 < plop> nope... it is ouside on our grill area
11:08 < MillerBOSS> Those black thermal printers?
11:09 < plop> nope. in the kitchen i always use dot matrix.
11:09 < MillerBOSS> Oh
11:09 < MillerBOSS> How come
11:09 < MillerBOSS> Curious
11:09 < plop> if you have oil on your hands, the thermal print disappears, also, if the receipt falls into a hot area, gets black so maybe you loose the table number or the quantity of an item... etc
11:10 < plop> it is slower, and noisier than the thermal.. but...
11:10 < MillerBOSS> Oh yeah good call.
11:10 < plop> :)
11:10 < MillerBOSS> Restaurants I worked had had both. But some also had screens
11:11 < MillerBOSS> Micros you got?
11:11 < plop> yeah, our software has the screen option but kitchen didnt' want them
11:11 < MillerBOSS> I forogt
11:11 < plop> nope. we got a software from a spanish company. kinda crap but does the trick. maybe we switch after high season.
11:11 < MillerBOSS> Oh yeah I think I remember you saying that.
11:12 < plop> we'll see. :D
11:16 < catbeard> heh
11:16 < catbeard> so 2 weeks later
11:16 < catbeard> 1 ssh key locked the fuck down
11:16 < MillerBOSS> The night time is the right time
11:16 < MillerBOSS> Oh this 3 weeks later
11:16 < catbeard> command="/home/websites/content/gitserve.sh",no-port-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,no-X11-forwarding,no-pty ssh-rsa ...
11:16 < MillerBOSS> s/this/thats
11:16 <+layer-eight> [SED MillerBOSS] Oh thats 3 weeks later
11:17 < MillerBOSS> Whats that? In the access log?
11:17 < catbeard> authorized_keys
11:18 < catbeard> ssh key installed, but only for git access
11:18 < MillerBOSS> You can put commands in that file?
11:18 < catbeard> ya
11:18 < catbeard> command restricted keys
11:18 < MillerBOSS> I didn't know that. Interesting
11:18 < catbeard> with options for denying pty
11:18 < MillerBOSS> So locked down why?
11:18 < catbeard> because external dev
11:18 < catbeard> abusing ssh access
11:18 < MillerBOSS> Ahh
11:19 < catbeard> so he can now only use git commands over ssh
11:19 < catbeard> thx to git-shell
11:19 < catbeard> https://0bin.net/paste/b2tSmwhReDcN4WwB#uISZNAoPwhAF9Yvfh6g8gcrkisTrY-ouVQTg0ozVBkr
11:19 <+layer-eight> * catbeard →  0bin - encrypted pastebin
11:20 < catbeard> like tweety bird said
11:20 < catbeard> oh well! all out of piddies
11:23 < catbeard> https://youtu.be/sfyblox-p54?t=4m
11:23 <+layer-eight> * catbeard →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfyblox-p54&feature=youtu.be&t=4m → YouTube → A Tale of Two Kitties (1942) → ⚘ 282,080 ↑ 1,600 ↓ 51 ✍ 308
11:24 < MillerBOSS> The old old ones are great
11:25 < Blinky_> Morning all, I know that this is not an apache room but you lot have  lot of knowledge so I thought I would ask.  Could someone please have a look at my htaccess file and tell me why is won't work.  It is not picking up the localhost when the site is run locally. -
11:25 < Blinky_> https://paste.linux.community/view/9c44a8be
11:25 <+layer-eight> * Blinky_ →  Untitled - Linux.Community
11:27 < catbeard> Blinky_: I think you should dynamically set CORS response headers via route middleware or manual calls with the correct info on routes that need CORS
11:28 < catbeard> not just blanket the site
12:21 < badsnappa> Hello. Has anyone ever had issue with Dell Servers (13th gen e.g. r430) and scheduling firmware updates for next reboot?
13:25 < MillerBOSS> `bofh
13:25 <+layer-eight> BOFH Appears to be a slow/narrow scsi-0 interface problem
13:31 < MillerBOSS> Perfect! https://twitter.com/sarahfrier/status/1006663072545693696
13:31 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Sarah Frier on Twitter: "Another one of Apple’s new rules says apps can’t "collect information about which other apps are installed on a user’s device for the purposes of analytics or advertising/marketing." Seems like a direct hit at Facebook’s Onavo:...
13:31 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180612/p27#a180612p27
13:31 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Techmeme: Apple changed App Store rules last week to ban iOS developers from making databases of users' address book info and limit what can be shared with third parties (Bloomberg)
13:32 < MillerBOSS> https://www.techmeme.com/180612/p37#a180612p37
13:32 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Techmeme: Intel has confirmed that its first discrete GPUs are coming as soon as 2020 for data center and gaming PCs (Gordon Mah Ung/PCWorld)
13:32 < MillerBOSS> Are those gonna be able to compete?
14:00 < L3gacy> Good bacon to all!
14:01 < onicrom> anyone in toronto and know of a place with good coffee, wifi, and atmosphere and not too busy
14:01 < Hatsjoe> SUp L3gacy
14:01 < onicrom> *downtown toronto
14:02 < IonutVan_> did somebody use this plugin for packer? https://github.com/jetbrains-infra/packer-builder-vsphere
14:02 <+layer-eight> * IonutVan_ →  GitHub → jetbrains-infra → packer-builder-vsphere → Packer plugin for remote builds on VMware vSphere → @ ~ 5 days ago → Go → ✡ 140 → Forks: 46 → ☹ 34
14:03 < L3gacy> Hatsjoe: Posted a bit about Trump slashing mental health benefits in the proposed budget, got called a "fucking moron" and told I was one of the "Sheeple" then BLOCKED by my friend's son
14:03 < L3gacy> He's got a BS in BioChem
14:03 < L3gacy> Then his mom attacked me online, and blocked me, calling me a "G_D damned idiot" and saying Trump is doing what's best for the country
14:03 < L3gacy> So... 2 ad hominem attacks, but NO rebuttal
14:03 < L3gacy> I'm better off :)
14:06 < L3gacy> So, Hatsjoe , wassup wit u?
14:11 < Hatsjoe> Haha nice
14:11 < Hatsjoe> I'm doing fine, got no nice story though
14:14 < aName> onicrom: I mean, there's like a million second cups
14:21 < onicrom> aName: second cup is garbage
14:21 < onicrom> half the second cups secretly use instant coffee
14:23 < asimon> Good morning my friends
14:25 <+giant_it_burrit> onicrom: have to hide from the tiny terror?
14:35 < darkscrypt> ugh... i feel so buried in projects right now.. everybody asking for a status of $x thing and when can I get it to them... but tooo many things to work on.
14:35 < darkscrypt> but miss like 4 other things needed..
14:35 < darkscrypt> i hate this feeling
14:35 <@Code_Man65> Welcome to IT
14:35 < darkscrypt> been here for 12 years.
14:36 <@Code_Man65> Oh, so you should be used to it by now
14:36 < darkscrypt> yeah. i just wanted to bitch about it
14:36 < darkscrypt> it helps.. theraputic in a way
14:36 < darkscrypt> you guys understand and <3 me
14:36 <+giant_it_burrit> lets not go that far
14:36 <+giant_it_burrit> we dont ballsack you
14:37 < darkscrypt> thats a butt-cone
14:37 < L3gacy> Taking a powershell course, and python
14:37 < L3gacy> I need a job >.<
14:37 <+giant_it_burrit> L3gacy: powershell where?
14:38 < L3gacy> Udemy for now
14:39 < onicrom> giant_it_burrit: yea
14:41 < L3gacy> Anyone got any job leads in southern NJ for a junior admin or NOC jockey?
14:43 < L3gacy> Friend just dropped off a 20" 1600x900 monitor for free99.  Now I need to find a DP cable LOL
14:44 < L3gacy>  #Happythings
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> mornin fellas
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> darkscrypt and then they line up meetings
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> like 4 meetings
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> just to talk abuot the status of your various projects
14:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> but you're wasting time on meetings whe nyou should be working on projects
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> then they ask why you're taking so long, and if you tell them its the damn meetings they get offended and say they are a good thing
14:46 < McDonaldsWiFi> repeat forever lol
14:46 < L3gacy> McDonaldsWiFi: I suggest telling them you're working on the project and can't attend the meeting, if they want the project completed by the deadline
14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> L3gacy: sometmies politics is more important and its sad that that is true
14:47 < darkscrypt> McDonaldsWiFi: actually i don't have that many meetings
14:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> i dont anymore, ever since we got a new it manager lol
14:47 < darkscrypt> 1 or 2 a week
14:48 < darkscrypt> my manager hates meetings
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> honestly, what I learned helps is being honest
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> HR comes to you with a project and you alrady have 2-3, I tell them
14:48 < darkscrypt> we have a pmo department
14:48 < McDonaldsWiFi> "Hey, I can defintely do this but it may take a little while... I've got 2 projects ahead of you in the queue"
14:48 < darkscrypt> but our pmo department.... is a little sketch
14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> :/
14:49 < darkscrypt> its basically just a guy who sends emails with no body but a subject line asking for status
14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> in my company HR is king. They trump all. I just had an HR project tossed on me yesterday... so I get to ignore everyone else today and work on it
14:49 < McDonaldsWiFi> darkscrypt: gets paid 100k too i bet lol
14:49 < L3gacy> If a person dumps a project on me and demands it must be done ASAP, I CC the C level peeps
14:49 < L3gacy> I need to find a new job
14:49 < darkscrypt> probably more than that.
14:50 < darkscrypt> haha.. if I cc'd a c level... I'd be fucked.
14:50 < darkscrypt> we have over 1,000 peeps in the IT department
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> holy fuck
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> you're in a large corp
14:51 < darkscrypt> little bit
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah that's nuts lol
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> do you ever feel like a number there?
14:51 < darkscrypt> not really.
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> Sysadmin #146 state your business
14:51 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
14:51 < darkscrypt> hahaha. noo. actually. i feel important tbh.
14:52 < darkscrypt> i'm given a lot of room for creativity.
14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm SMB to mid-business so I have no idea how a corp that big would work
14:52 < darkscrypt> it's very sub-divided
14:52 < darkscrypt> departments for individual applications
14:52 < darkscrypt> these guys support $x application.
14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> oohh I see!
14:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> What does your team do?
14:52 < darkscrypt> these guys support AD. These guys support AD replication. These guys support network
14:53 < darkscrypt> my team does all of citrix...
14:53 < darkscrypt> somehow there is no sudivision here
14:53 < L3gacy> Citrix es muy mal y diablo
14:53 < darkscrypt> its just... all of citrix.
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> citrix... I'm so sorry
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> but citrix admins are in high demand and make BAN
14:53 < darkscrypt> we have some old farms... with citix 4.0 and below... and new stuff 7.15 and above
14:53 < McDonaldsWiFi> BANK
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> there is a hospital near me that's been looking for a citrix admin for like 6 months
14:54 < darkscrypt> <--- hospital
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> ahh makes sense now!
14:54 < darkscrypt> healthcare <3's citrix
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
14:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> no ty
14:54 < darkscrypt> we just bought some other hospital chain... so now we are working on merging their IT
14:54 < darkscrypt> which is why i'm overwhelmed
14:55 < darkscrypt> we have a whole department that deals with access management.
14:55 < darkscrypt> They have a slew of managed groups, and they maintain who gets what roles and such
14:55 < darkscrypt> it's actually pretty cool... but they don't know how to do anything non-manual really
14:56 < darkscrypt> but yeah. I don't really feel like a number to be honest. It's a good company, and I have  a really incredible manager
14:57 < darkscrypt> that makes all the difference in the world.
14:57 <@Code_Man65> As someone wiser than me said: People don't quit jobs, they quit managers.
14:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> ^
14:57 < mrghostman> ^^
14:57 < darkscrypt> ^^^
14:57 <+giant_it_burrit> can't agree more
14:58 < darkscrypt> couldn't not agree less
14:58 <+giant_it_burrit> a good manager earns your loyalty,respect,
14:58 <@Code_Man65> and a decent haircut?
14:58 < darkscrypt> i get sufficient vacation time here. they start you out at 5 weeks pto
14:58 <+giant_it_burrit> and also keeps you in places longer than you would have stayed otherwise
14:59 <+giant_it_burrit> because you know they have your back
14:59 < darkscrypt> all employees start at 5 weeks pto here...
14:59 < darkscrypt> i thought that shit existed only in the eu
14:59 < asimon> 5 weeks...per year?
14:59 < darkscrypt> yeah
14:59 < asimon> Do you have any openings?
14:59 < darkscrypt> probably
15:00 < darkscrypt> they don't direct hire though. they go through recruiting agencies and do contract to hire
15:00 < darkscrypt> mainly because once you get hired its next to impossible to get fired
15:01 < L3gacy> wtf?
15:02 < L3gacy> A construction company is here, and just dropped tarps and barriers in front of my windows and both doors
15:02 < L3gacy> I didnt get a notice.  They're redoing the roof
15:03 < L3gacy> Was told I cant leave till they're done, for "safety reasons"
15:03 < corn266> mandatory unpaid overtime
15:08 < alazare619> i dont wana be awake -__-
15:08 < alazare619> i wana go back to sleep
15:08 <@Code_Man65> Then go back to sleep, you are an adult and can make your own decisions
15:09 < alazare619> my wallet makes decisions for me
15:09 <@Code_Man65> No, you delegate decisions to your wallet :P
15:09 < L3gacy> alazare619: so, STEAM makes the decisions?
15:09 < alazare619> yes
15:09 < darkscrypt> starbucks makes my decisions.
15:09 < L3gacy> I knew it
15:09 <+giant_it_burrit> not the summer sale
15:09 <+giant_it_burrit> reeeeeeeeee
15:09 < darkscrypt> ra ra... like a dungeon dragon
15:09 < L3gacy> I jsut had a job recruiter on a skype call wanting me to do warehouse work
15:10 < L3gacy> I told him my asthma/COPD diagnosis, and he said, "You don't look disabled!  You'll be fine!  When can you start?"
15:10 < alazare619> props to the guy
15:10 < alazare619> always trying to close the deal
15:10 < L3gacy> I blocked him
15:12 < L3gacy> The job desc involved 50-75 lbs lifting for extended periods
15:12 < L3gacy> I cant medically lift my tech kit
15:12 < L3gacy> It's 22lbs
15:13 < alazare619> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/d3kw5w/honey-bees-are-the-first-insect-known-to-grasp-the-concept-of-zero
15:13 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Honey Bees Are the First Insect Known to Grasp the Concept of Zero - Motherboard
15:13 < alazare619> L3gacy: its a good thing you dont have my workstation laptop then
15:13 < alazare619> you could use it as a boat anchor
15:13 < L3gacy> alazare619: Eurocom?
15:13 < alazare619> HP Elitebook 8570w
15:14 < L3gacy> Eurocom.com :)
15:14 < abakedapplepie> hi bitches
15:14 < L3gacy> They make DUAL 8 core 16t XEON server replacement lappies
15:14 < L3gacy> abakedapplepie: how baked are you?
15:14 < alazare619> my elitebook weighs 7lbs
15:14 < abakedapplepie> L3gacy: not enough for this bullshit day i tell you whut
15:14 < abakedapplepie> hump DAY
15:14 < abakedapplepie> mikemikeMikeMikeMIKE
15:15 < L3gacy> I cant technically LIFT, anything
15:15 < L3gacy> Doc said NO lifting
15:15 < abakedapplepie> dude, me either
15:15 < L3gacy> wants to NOT cut out the left lower lobe, but the WHOLE left lung now
15:15 < abakedapplepie> i was using a sander all day the other day, the vibrations destroyed my arms
15:15 < abakedapplepie> i am spaghet
15:15 < corn266> anyone know if windows full disk format writes 0s or random numbers?
15:15 < corn266> also i have you for lunch abakedapplepie
15:16 < L3gacy> It does not.  Jsut zeros the table
15:16 < abakedapplepie> ^
15:16 < corn266> even if you select full wipe?
15:16 < L3gacy> yeah
15:16 < abakedapplepie> windows format is completely recoverable
15:16 < L3gacy> DBAN that bitch
15:16 < corn266> wtf
15:16 < asimon> yeah its bad
15:16 < abakedapplepie> well, its not bad
15:16 < corn266> then why did it take so long?
15:16 < abakedapplepie> its not like they ever tell you its not recoverable
15:16 < abakedapplepie> if youre relying on wndows format for security thats your fault :P
15:17  * L3gacy shimmies across the dance floor
15:17 < alazare619> dban and all the other programs have been tested
15:17  * L3gacy reaches for his inhaler, wheezing like a bitch
15:17 < corn266> w/e I'll just do full disk encryption through bitlocker
15:17 < abakedapplepie> there you go
15:17 < abakedapplepie> two birds stoned at once
15:17 < alazare619> a wipe of 0's followed by a wipe of random is enough that even the most sophisticated algo's can not recover
15:18 < corn266> also dban isn't government compliant since it doesn't generate a report (that i'm aware of)
15:18 < abakedapplepie> tell that to nist
15:18 < corn266> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ my DSS rep said it's only compliant if it generates a report
15:19 < corn266> but she also said the DAAPM talks about encryption standards and it does not
15:19 < alazare619> thats why i do a shred -z -v /dev/sdX
15:19 < corn266> I do `dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdX bs=4096`
15:20 <@Code_Man65> Or just take it to a place that has a DOD certified degausser
15:20 <@Code_Man65> Cost $5 at the place we have local
15:20 < alazare619> we are getting one next year
15:20 < alazare619> we have about 3k hdd's laying around
15:21 < corn266> we have an NSA approved degaussing wand but this is for non-destructive sanitization
15:21 < abakedapplepie> Code_Man65: will they degauss my SSDs
15:21 < alazare619> it generates a report and has a barcode scanner
15:21 < alazare619> so you zap the barcodes on it insert drive press degause
15:21 < L3gacy> at $OLD_JOB, we have close to 400 1TB HDDs
15:21 < corn266> abakedapplepie: is that a joke?
15:21 < abakedapplepie> corn266: is it?
15:21 <@Code_Man65> abakedapplepie:  No, but they will shred the living shit out of them.
15:21 < abakedapplepie> :P
15:21 < alazare619> side note something i never understood is a degauser able to emp an SSD?
15:21 < corn266> it can't
15:21 < alazare619> like to the point its unopperable
15:21 < L3gacy> Boss takes em out of NEW PCs, puts a 512 SSD in place, charges full price and markup on the SSD, and the win install.
15:21 < abakedapplepie> doubt it
15:21 < abakedapplepie> degausser isnt an emp
15:22 < corn266> alazare619:
15:22 <@Code_Man65> SSD's aren't magnetic media
15:22 < abakedapplepie> its just a large quickly fluctuating magnetic field
15:22 < L3gacy> EMP?  Use a taser, a soft core electro magnet, and a PWM circuit
15:22 < L3gacy> *BRZAP*
15:22 < corn266> you have to shred them to a powder or smelt them
15:22 < abakedapplepie> emp would be a single burst of EM much higher in intensity than a degausser
15:22 < L3gacy> Personally, old_job used a 40lb sledgehammer and a drill
15:22 < abakedapplepie> L3gacy: thats what we use
15:23 < abakedapplepie> thats a one way operation though
15:23 <+ihre> s/magnetic/magic
15:23 <+layer-eight> [SED ihre/abakedapplepie] its just a large quickly fluctuating magic field
15:23 < abakedapplepie> i wish i could take drives home with me, i am in a critical storage situation at home
15:23 < abakedapplepie> i have sad storage
15:23 < L3gacy> Even the SCRAP METAL isnt allowed to be taken home
15:23 < asimon> That all seems like way too much work
15:23 < asimon> just use a damp cloth
15:23 < L3gacy> Auto termination
15:23 < asimon> easy
15:24 < abakedapplepie> L3gacy: ugh. i got us to start scrapping things here, we just gave it away
15:24 < L3gacy> EX BOSS just gave away two 15" MBPs
15:24 < L3gacy> both working fine.
15:24 < abakedapplepie> started bringing in 2-500 a month from scrapping, but because it took 2-3 hours for someone to go to the recyclers he stopped doing it
15:24 < L3gacy> Just C2Ds
15:24 < abakedapplepie> now he is giving it away again
15:24 < abakedapplepie> we just scrapped like 100 pcs, scrap guy made a fucking mint
15:25 < L3gacy> I tried to take an OLD Pent Pro CPU once, from Uni.  It was IN THE TRASH CAN on tap
15:25 < L3gacy> Was threatened with expulsion
15:25 < abakedapplepie> not to mention all of the old UPS units
15:25 < L3gacy> *on top
15:25 < abakedapplepie> those transformers are $$$$
15:25 < L3gacy> https://render-us.worldofwarcraft.com/character/moon-guard/187/135358651-main.jpg
15:25 <+layer-eight> * L3gacy →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 223,447 bytes
15:25 < L3gacy> My gnome :)
15:26 < Hatter> my fascist admin is blocking worldofwarcraft.com
15:26 < Hatter> oh wait that's me
15:26 < L3gacy> Slap thems
15:26 < L3gacy> Slap self
15:32 < Nightcinder> Hatter: amp come in yet?
15:32 < Hatter> yes it has actually
15:32 < Hatter> but I haven't tried it yet
15:32 < L3gacy> OOOH.  Amp?
15:32 < L3gacy> What u get?
15:33  * L3gacy gets hot cocoa
15:33 < Nightcinder> now you get to stare at it longingly until the hd6xx comesin
15:33  * L3gacy sits on carpet :)
15:33 < Hatter> Nightcinder: when might I expect that
15:33 < Nightcinder> dunno
15:33 < Nightcinder> what did it say when you ordered it?
15:33 < Hatter> I think it has a regular old headphone jack
15:33 < Hatter> I think I can use my current headphones with it
15:34 < L3gacy> ooh headphone amp?
15:34 < L3gacy> I was looking at AMB.org
15:34 < khelpw> Hatter: you ordered straight from assdrop?
15:34 < Hatter> khelpw: it's called massdrop
15:34 < Hatter> but yes
15:34 < khelpw> Pretty sure it's assdrop. You can expect them about the 32nd of nevuary.
15:34 < Hatter> yeah that's a bit annoying
15:35 < Hatter> don't they know how things work now
15:35 < khelpw> if you're impatient, best to stay away from assdrop.
15:35 < Hatter> no one waits for anything
15:35 < khelpw> oh yes they do
15:35 < khelpw> they do on assdrop, anyway
15:35 < abakedapplepie> L3gacy: oh yeah?
15:35 < khelpw> But you'll probably save a whole $25, so waiting 6 months is nbd, right?
15:35 < abakedapplepie> is amb still in business?
15:36 < L3gacy> yes
15:36 < L3gacy> I was looking at soldering up a reference amp :)
15:36 < L3gacy> when I has loots
15:36 < Nightcinder> Estimated ship date is Aug 31, 2018 PT.
15:38 < L3gacy> felda!
15:38 < Hatter> that's like 6 months from now!
15:38 < felda> wassup
15:39 < khelpw> Hatter: did you not realize that when you ordered them?
15:39 < khelpw> I wasn't joking.
15:39 < Hatter> well no
15:39 < abakedapplepie> L3gacy: i have the m^3
15:39 < Hatter> where can I enable express shipping
15:39 < Nightcinder> lol
15:39 < khelpw> I mean, they generally estimate a little bit later than they actually ship, so they can say "Look we're ahead of schedule"
15:39 < L3gacy> abakedapplepie: how is it?
15:39 < abakedapplepie> its great
15:39 < khelpw> All that will do is make it get to your door faster when they leave assdrop in August, so they'll come in September 2nd instead of sept 5th
15:40 < abakedapplepie> i <3 class A
15:40 < abakedapplepie> i <3 active ground
15:40 < khelpw> Hatter: or you just cancel your order and get a pair of them secondhand for the same price.
15:40 < Hatter> secondhand he says
15:40 < Hatter> what do I look like
15:40 < abakedapplepie> i could power some bookshelves with this if i wanted to, with a few tweaks to the gain stage
15:40 < abakedapplepie> i have 600ohm headphones so i wanted something that could keep up
15:40 < L3gacy> So my psych told me I am FORBIDDEN from asking about med weed, or I would need to find a new doc
15:40 <+giant_it_burrit> so?
15:41 < Hatter> what a square
15:41 < L3gacy> She said weed leads to cocaine, heroin, and abusive relationships, and isn't part of "G_D's plan"
15:41 < ebol4> time to find a new doctor
15:41 < abakedapplepie> for some reason though the power supply transformer starts buzzing after a year or so of use, ive replaced it like 3 times
15:41 < L3gacy> Am now looking for a psych that will work with medicare
15:41 < ebol4> i'll be your doctor
15:42 < L3gacy> My life is one big fuck you after another, tbh
15:42 < L3gacy> some days I really dont want to go on, and just lay in bed all day
15:42 < Nightcinder> abakedapplepie: ohmage doesn't mean much :)
15:42 < Nightcinder> i have 300ohm headphones that are easier to drive than my 50ohm headphones
15:42 < Hatter> L3gacy: well then maybe weed isn't such a good idea, have you looked into adderral?
15:43 < L3gacy> Hatter: Doc COLD TURKEYED me off that
15:43 < L3gacy> I was doing 50mg a day prescribed by $Previous_Psych
15:43 < Hatter> I was trying it for a while myself, it's not very good for you
15:43 < Hatter> for a while there I was sleeping every other night
15:43 < L3gacy> I did concert 106m ER
15:43 < L3gacy> Was up for three days
15:43 < L3gacy> banged out 3 web sites
15:43 < L3gacy> I dont code
15:44 < Hatter> did you use hotdog pro
15:44 < L3gacy> Used CSS and python
15:44 < Hatter> oh
15:44 < L3gacy> Notepad++
15:45 < abakedapplepie> do they still prescribe vyvanse
15:45 < abakedapplepie> that stuff when i tried it was everything good about adderall with very few negative side effects
15:46 < abakedapplepie> i never felt strung out either
15:46 < abakedapplepie> and it had a sustained even effect, which was neat
15:46 < abakedapplepie> no come up come down
15:47 < Hatter> but that is everything good about adderall
15:50 < L3gacy> Doc wont give me any stimulants
15:50 < L3gacy> She's now trying to wean me off my abilify for some damned reason
15:51 < Nightcinder> drugs are bad kids
15:52 < L3gacy> I'm schizo-effective
15:53 < abakedapplepie> maybe she wants to see your baseline
15:54 < Hatter> L3gacy: just quit all the drugs and stop acting so weird
15:54 < Hatter> problem solved
15:55 < L3gacy> I've been going there for 5 years
15:57 < abakedapplepie> oh
15:58 < servchan> nice for what
15:58 < servchan> `seen notworking cryptic1
15:58 <+layer-eight> Seen →  cryptic1 Saying who made Hunterkll op? via Log on #reddit-sysadmin 11 hours ago
15:58 < JollyRgrs> so... they have this new "data privacy" screensaver that they demand shows for 15 minutes b4 screen goes off, etc. (they being HR/compliance)
15:58 < JollyRgrs> so i know how to change the screen from blanking after only 60 sec on lock screen, but how can i set screensaver to run during lockscreen?
15:59 <+giant_it_burrit> you can set the screensaver right?
15:59 < JollyRgrs> (via gpo/cli/reg hack)
15:59 < JollyRgrs> giant_it_burrit: yeah, it is set and if i don't lock the machine... it works fine
15:59 <+giant_it_burrit> set power settings to turn off screen
15:59 < JollyRgrs> but lock screen is diff settings
15:59 <+giant_it_burrit> set the screensaver to require pw to unlock
15:59 <+giant_it_burrit> is this win10?
15:59 < JollyRgrs> yes
15:59 < AnimalFarmPig> I got a free switch yesterday: https://meraki.cisco.com/products/switches/ms220-8  with 3 year license  :D
15:59 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  Cisco Meraki MS220-8 Cloud Managed Products
16:00 < AnimalFarmPig> saw the SFP ports and was excited for 10Gb, but it's only 1Gb :/
16:00 < JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: let us know what you decide to do in 3 yrs when you are relying on it and your "free" lic. expires
16:00 < JollyRgrs> better learn to tomato quickly?
16:00 < abakedapplepie> lol
16:00 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: becomes pretty much useless at the time, no? Or can it be reflashed?
16:00 < abakedapplepie> cloud managed switches
16:00 < abakedapplepie> what the fuck will they think up next
16:00 < abakedapplepie> christ
16:01 < abakedapplepie> people need to stop giving them money
16:01 < AnimalFarmPig> if I can no longer manage it in 3 years, I will just trash it or sell it
16:01 < JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: i think yo ucan dd-wrt or tomato them, but unsure... that's why i never bothered w/ free meraki WAPs from a few years ago (or was it longer ago than that?)
16:01 < F34RInc> abakedapplepie, they dont get any money from me.  Not like I have any in the first place :-(
16:02 < abakedapplepie> honestly what benefit do you get by using that device over a normal managed switch without a subscription based license fee
16:02 < AnimalFarmPig> cheap?
16:02 < abakedapplepie> i mean, if you were to actually pay for it yourself
16:03 < ekaj> `bofh
16:03 <+layer-eight> BOFH Just type 'mv * /dev/null'.
16:03 < servchan> `lucky
16:03  * layer-eight points a 6 chamber revolver with one round loaded at servchan, and spins (6 slots remaining)
16:03 <+layer-eight> *click* - Looks like you get to live another day servchan
16:03 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I mean that as well. They look fairly inexpensive
16:05 < abakedapplepie> that 8 port is $750 on CDW
16:05 < abakedapplepie> doesnt say what, if any, license that includes
16:06 < ekaj> just get an old laptop, an 8 port $20 switch, and a patch cable, problem solved
16:06 < AnimalFarmPig> $315 on Amazon, but that looks to be without license
16:06 < AnimalFarmPig> 3 year license for $118
16:09 < corn266> can anyone recommend a FOSS linux audit report generating software?
16:10 < corn266> scratch that, aureport looks like it'll work
16:13 < alazare619> wish mobaxterm would support vcenter
16:14 < alazare619> like royalts does
16:14 < aName> mobaxterm just makes me think of like, a text-based version of DOTA
16:14 <@Code_Man65> Make a feature request alazare619
16:16 <@JollyRgrs> i wish mobaxterm would fix the clicky URL issue i have
16:16 < Hatter> alazare619: that would be neat
16:16 <@JollyRgrs> works fine on default console, but if i'm inside of screen/tmux, links are no longer clicky
16:16 <@JollyRgrs> happened like 3 yrs ago or so... that's when i stopped using it :(
16:18 < asimon> Any recommendations on travel USB-C display adapters?
16:19 < asimon> I've had a couple folks come up to me now saying they had to think quick when presenting at client sites
16:24 < Hatter> what's the best desk fan in the world
16:24 < darkscrypt> alazare619: install the powercli stuff from vmware, then you can do Get-VM "vmname" | open-vmconsolewindow
16:25 < darkscrypt> it's not the best... but hell it's nicer than doing the damned web interface shit
16:25 < vinrock> dyson cool 10" desk fan
16:25 < MillerBOSS> Of course it is. They got nothing else better to do https://www.techmeme.com/180613/p12#a180613p12
16:25 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Techmeme: Microsoft announces a redesign for its Office suite, including desktop apps and Office.com, rolling out over the coming months (Tom Warren/The Verge)
16:25 < estranger> i wish those fans werent so loud
16:25 < nurgle> fack
16:25 < alazare619> darkscrypt:  i know how ot od it by hand
16:26 < alazare619> darkscrypt:  i'm just stating i use mobaxterm more often then not but i still use royalts for vmware console
16:26 < phuzion> Anybody else seeing Dell Command Update having issues with catalog cabs failing security verification right now?
16:26 < nurgle> is it friday
16:26 < vinrock> man i bought one of those v8 vacuums last year and they came out with a v10 couple months ago
16:26 < vinrock> now im nerding out over wanting to upgrayyed my vacuum
16:26 < vinrock> that mfer was 600 buckeroos
16:27 < nurgle> vinrock: you should put it on a 96 month plan
16:27 < alazare619> just buy a kirby like me
16:27 < alazare619> my kirby could out suck a dollar hooker
16:27 < AnimalFarmPig> Hatter: a 4x4 array of Delta or Nidec high speed DC fans
16:27 < vinrock> id buy a kirby if i had a house fulla carpet
16:27 < abakedapplepie> if youre spending 600 on a vacuum
16:28 < abakedapplepie> buy something thats worth 600
16:28 < abakedapplepie> like a meile
16:28 < vinrock> but i got a townhouse with a mix of different floor coverings
16:28 < abakedapplepie> fuck dyson
16:28 < vinrock> dude the dyson fuckin rocks
16:28 < abakedapplepie> overpiced plastic shit
16:28 < vinrock> overpriced af
16:28 < AnimalFarmPig> abakedapplepie: is that available with 96 month financing?
16:28 < abakedapplepie> oh, sure it rocks, but youre not getting what you pay for
16:28 < abakedapplepie> meile you get what you pay for
16:28 < abakedapplepie> believe me
16:28 < abakedapplepie> those germans are crazy
16:28 < vinrock> if i could id have miele everything
16:28 < abakedapplepie> best vacuum ive ever used
16:28 < vinrock> but they dont make a kickass cordless multi surface vac
16:28 < MillerBOSS> Kirby
16:29 < abakedapplepie> you dont need a cordless
16:29 < vinrock> kirby is for rugs and scaring children
16:29 < vinrock> yeah i do
16:29 < abakedapplepie> you just think you do
16:29 < vinrock> i use it for also hitting the fan blades, sucking up cobwebs when they show up, my car interior, bafrooms, etc
16:29 < vinrock> stairs are a breeze
16:30 < vinrock> oh and the occasional million legger that needs to die
16:32 < alazare619> AnimalFarmPig: my kirby is only 80 a month over almost 10 years
16:33 < alazare619> best and worse decision of my life
16:33 < MillerBOSS> Get the fuck outta here. https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/06/12/ballot-measure-split-california-three-states/
16:33 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Measure splitting California into three makes it to ballot
16:33 < vinrock> waity what
16:33 < vinrock> how much
16:33 < alazare619> its actually closer to 8 years i paid it
16:33 < vinrock> i been wondering how much a kirby costs nowadays
16:33 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: 96 month financing!
16:33 < vinrock> holy moly
16:33 < alazare619> i didnt know how to do the math of financing when i was 20
16:33 < alazare619> i was like damn thats a BIFL vacuum
16:33 < alazare619> and was super high at the time
16:33 < vinrock> am i correct that your vacuum is gona cost over 9 g's
16:33 < alazare619> 7200 after all was said and done
16:34 < vinrock> jesus christ
16:34 < alazare619> i was under the impression it was 2k
16:34 < vinrock> they are the best
16:34 < vinrock> but holy shit
16:34 < AnimalFarmPig> if you can't consent to sex while super high, I don't think you should be able to consent to a vacuum
16:34 < alazare619> i'm like thtas not bad
16:34 < vinrock> we had one when i was growing up
16:34 < alazare619> well what i didnt know was there is no option for early pay off
16:34 < vinrock> also they're famous from the little toaster
16:34 < alazare619> i was going to just do 250 in 8 payments
16:34 < vinrock> wat
16:34 < alazare619> have it paid off in the year
16:34 < vinrock> how is that even legal
16:35 < alazare619> but if i wana pay it off i have to pay it off + all the interest etc
16:35 < vinrock> oh
16:35 < alazare619> which comes out to 7200
16:35 < alazare619> this friday my kirby is finally paid off
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> how long will it take for them to send you the clear title on it?
16:36 < hxcsp> wait you paid 7 grand for a vacuum
16:36 < alazare619> i actually sanded down my kirby and disassembled it and had it sent off to a powder coater :P
16:36 < alazare619> its powder coated black now
16:36 < hxcsp> were you high the whole time you were paying it?
16:36 < hxcsp> ><
16:36 < AnimalFarmPig> are you going to keep comprehensive coverage on it or go down to liability only?
16:36 < MillerBOSS> Shit buy them used and take it to a local Kirby repair joint.
16:36 < vinrock> you should get it pinstriped
16:36 < alazare619> hxcsp: theres no option to "return"
16:36 < ebol4> what is kirby
16:37 < vinrock> badass vacuum
16:37 < ebol4> why
16:37 < ebol4> i paid $50 for my vacuum
16:37 < MillerBOSS> High suction for one
16:37 < hxcsp> and here i was thinking a Dyson was expensive
16:37 < hxcsp> jfc
16:37 < vinrock> i had a simplicity before that was like a g and i thought that was insane
16:38 < MillerBOSS> It all depends on the sales guy and distributor regarding the price if you buy new
16:38 < vinrock> but thats when i was renting a 4br house
16:38 < MillerBOSS> https://www.kirby.com/
16:38 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Deep clean carpet, hard floors, tile & grout and more with the Kirby Avalir 2
16:38 < vinrock> whoa they look all modern now
16:38 < Hatter> did they steal the sucking idea from the real kirby?
16:38 < alazare619> hxcsp:  kirby are a bifl vacuum
16:38 < MillerBOSS> Yeah last two versions
16:38 < ebol4> i just don't understand why a person would need a vacuum that costs more than like $100
16:38 < alazare619> they have 2 actual motors
16:39 < hxcsp> oh that makes it worth $7k
16:39 < hxcsp> makes sense
16:39 < hxcsp> :D
16:39 < vinrock> ebol4 50-100 gotta be a prety shit vac
16:39 < ebol4> but like what are you vacuuming that necessitates a good vacuum
16:39 < AnimalFarmPig> why not just use a shop vac?
16:39 < vinrock> actual sucking power, what kinda attachments it comes with or can be had, ergonomics, etc
16:39 < vinrock> filtration
16:40 < vinrock> uh
16:40 < alazare619> and they use an actual turbine mechanism i'm not joking when i say they ran a dyson and a shark over the carpet and neither found anything and i put the kirby on it and it found a ton...but the only reason is its bifl and fully repairable
16:40 < vinrock> other stuff
16:40 < alazare619> unlike most vacuums when something dies its dead
16:40 < alazare619> kirby you can buy replacement motors replacement everything solid metal construction too
16:40 < AnimalFarmPig> shop vac is just a sucking motor, filter, and bucket. You can get some very powerful ones.
16:40 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, and hose and attachments
16:40 < MillerBOSS> A regular vacuum doesn't get everything in the carpet and actually will ruin the carpet top. Kirbys have very good suction and pulls up a shit ton of shit in the carpet.
16:41 < MillerBOSS> Yup, repair the whole thing.
16:41 < alazare619> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qU12eRWj/image.png
16:41 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 646,548 bytes
16:41 < vinrock> yeah those things are serviceable down to the last nut and bolt
16:41 < alazare619> just for some info i know people that have had kirby vacuums over 60 years
16:41 < MillerBOSS> I just bought a used one at the pawn shop for $100 for work. Took it to the local Kirby repair guy for $50 cleanup.
16:41 < vinrock> nice
16:41 < alazare619> and hotels are running kirbys from over 50+ years ago running multiple vacuums with it a day
16:42 < alazare619> do i regret paying as much as i did
16:42 < alazare619> HELL yea
16:42 < alazare619> but honestly i'll never buy aonther vacuum
16:42 < MillerBOSS> I attempted to sell them for a week years ago. Not my style
16:42 < alazare619> i do have a rug doctor to tho but diffrent role and all but its also bifl and repairable
16:42 < vinrock> when you get married it can be one of your best men
16:43 < vinrock> kirby 4 lyfe
16:44 < AnimalFarmPig> I remember working for Best Buy geek squad when I was young and desparate. All warranty returns and product service plans of broken stuff went through our desk. People brought in vacuums expecting us to be able to fix them. Then got pissed when I said we send them to depot.
16:44 < Hatter> but is it nameed after the popular pink nintendo character who is known for his sucking ability
16:44 < AnimalFarmPig> Apparently sales guys were also promising that we would give them loaner vacuums
16:44 < MillerBOSS> I am pretty sure its the other way around Hatter
16:44 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
16:45 < hxcsp> AnimalFarmPig: the good old days of getting paid $8/hr and giving no fucks.
16:45 < MillerBOSS> Jim Kirby created the first Kirby vacuum cleaner in 1906,
16:45 < MillerBOSS> https://www.kirby.com/about-the-kirby-company/
16:45 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Learn the history behind your Kirby vacuum cleaner
16:45 < ebol4> john nintendo invented the gamecube the day before
16:46 < AnimalFarmPig> hxcsp: oh man, I got $12, tried to do a good job and do right by the customers, and realized that doing right by the customers was incompatible with selling the useless shit they wanted me to push
16:47 < AnimalFarmPig> I was super serious young person. Got much more mellow and cynical over time
16:47 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: the best was telling them that their camera warranty covered moisture, but NOT condensation... so that corossion on the PCB wasn't covered
16:47 < MadCamel> man. banannas are yummy
16:48 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: hahahaha, never heard that one. Wow.
16:49 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: we got that ALL the time
16:49 <@JollyRgrs> but that comes w/ people going from hot beach to inside with AC
16:50 < MadCamel> Idk when I was customer-facing I'd at least try to go out of my way to help out the people who were extra-nice to me
16:50 < MadCamel> If anyone got huffy though.. poker face, sorry can't help because of procedure X
16:50 <@JollyRgrs> yup
16:51 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: always be polite to ppl helping you and udnerstand that 99/100 that person is not being a dick, just bound by procedures they can't circumvent
16:51 <@JollyRgrs> and if you are nice, they'll do everything they can to try and make it work for you
16:51 < vinrock> no way in hell could i interact with customers
16:51 < vinrock> i worked at a dry cleaner for like 6mos when i was 17
16:51 < vinrock> thats all i lasted
16:51 < estranger> i love being customer facing
16:52 < estranger> it helps when yer the smartest person in the room, and the most humble
16:52 < MadCamel> I hated it. not a good position for the classic introvert/borderline-autist computer nerd. Taught me a lot about reading people though.
16:53 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: it doesn't help at all
16:53 < estranger> JollyRgrs, how would you know?
16:53  * estranger drops the mic
16:53 <@JollyRgrs> i was very humble, and helped teach everyone else at my store... but i still did not like dealing with 9/10 customers
16:54 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: welp, there goes your humbleness :P
16:54 < gavit> is there a reason not to use 'public ssl certificates' for internal servers?
16:54  * JollyRgrs drops mic on estranger's mic
16:54 <@JollyRgrs> cost?
16:54 < estranger> JollyRgrs, the humble was /s .. but i didnt think id need the /s because it was right after i said im the smartest person in the room
16:54 < gavit> JollyRgrs: with letsencrypt that shouldn't matter I suppose
16:54 < estranger> guess whos NOT the smartest person in the room
16:54 < Heresiarch> gavit: if they're internal anyway, might as well spin up your own CA and have done.
16:54 < gavit> JollyRgrs: also, if you have a wildcard, might as well use it internally s well
16:55 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: you CAN be humble but also realize you are smartest in the room
16:55  * estranger picks up the dropped mic under JollyRgrs's mic and drops it again
16:55 < vinrock> ive been meaning to do that
16:55 < gavit> Heresiarch: lets say you have a wildcard for example.org and you have internal.example.org, would you make a internal CA?
16:55 <@JollyRgrs> i need to get a wildcard from letsencrypt... i hate all the warnings for my own stuff like logging into pfsense or whatnot
16:55 < gavit> JollyRgrs: I need to do that too
16:55 < Heresiarch> gavit: if I was going to be making more than one cert, yes.
16:55 < MadCamel> no reason not to use public ssl for internal servers in most circumstances. Unless you have an internal trusted CA setup. Then always use that, always.
16:56 < felda> JollyRgrs careful logging into pfsense you could get hacked
16:56 < gavit> Heresiarch: why? the wildcard covers all
16:56 < MillerBOSS> So many goodies in here chrome://net-internals/#dns
16:56 <@JollyRgrs> felda: btw, both ntop and bandwidthd choke my throughput :(
16:56 < felda> that reminds me
16:56 < pcspkr> gavit: doesn't cover multiple dots
16:56 < felda> aww :(
16:56 < Heresiarch> gavit: wildcards cover all for one level of subdomaining.
16:56 <@JollyRgrs> had to remove both of em to get back to 940mbps
16:56 < felda> that sucks
16:56 <@JollyRgrs> yup
16:56 < felda> need more XEON core yo
16:56 < gavit> Heresiarch: so lets say we dont use internal without multisub subs sub sub domains
16:56 < vinrock> pfelda did you look into the atom bug
16:56 < felda> yeah
16:56 < vinrock> there is a resistor fix that can be done
16:56 < felda> my server is that exact CPU too lmao
16:57 < vinrock> hah
16:57 <@JollyRgrs> i give it a good bit, but i question if something is messed up with my KVM setup, because I don't feel like i'm getting out of it what I should, CPU wise
16:57 < Heresiarch> gavit: if that's all you need, and you don't care about the extra automation required for an LE cert (90 day renewals, yo), then rock on.
16:57 < vinrock> find out what board it it theres somewhere to jump a 100ohm resistor
16:57 < felda> I hope it doesn't fall prey to it
16:57 < vinrock> if you dont have warrantee when it finally dies
16:57 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: pfsense does that auto-renewal thing, IIRC
16:57 <@JollyRgrs> using ACME or whatevs
16:58 < abakedapplepie> Took down our whole infra
16:58 < Heresiarch> gavit: if you already have a publicly signed wildcard cert and you don't plan on doing anything outside the wildcard, might as well use that - just track where you deploy it to.
16:58 < abakedapplepie> How are you guys doing
16:58 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: better than you it seems :P
16:58 < vinrock> my ass is on fire from the spicy noodles i ate at 11pm
16:58 < Heresiarch> JollyRgrs: meh. Too much work - I don't have an internal DNS zone, and IDGAF about cert warnings.
16:58 < abakedapplepie> Is it my fault if every single VM is on the same hyper visor
16:58 < Hatter> does anyone know of a free and light change control system that I can customize
16:58 < Hatter> I don't need hardcore ITIL standards
16:58 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: way too many clicks when trying to access the page
16:58 < abakedapplepie> And I rebooted hypervisor
16:59 < Heresiarch> Hatter: trello?
16:59 < vinrock> good jerb
16:59 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: are you the one in charge of the hypervisor?
16:59 <@JollyRgrs> if so... then yes
16:59 <@JollyRgrs> Heresiarch: someone just posted something last night, iirc
16:59 <@JollyRgrs> i forget the link
16:59 <@JollyRgrs> err... Hatter
16:59 <+ihre> https://www.combodo.com/itop-193
17:00 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  iTop: open source ITIL ITSM CMDB Software
17:00 <+ihre> that one?
17:00 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
17:00 <@JollyRgrs> that one
17:00 <@JollyRgrs> thanks
17:00 < Hatter> did I forget to say free
17:00 < Hatter> oh ITOP
17:00 < Hatter> yeah I tried that
17:00 < Hatter> it seems pretty insistent on all the hardcore ITIL stuff
17:00 < Hatter> every change needs like 3 approvals and you can't really customize that stuff
17:00 < Hatter> I think
17:00 < abakedapplepie> JollyRgrs: no, im not
17:01 < abakedapplepie> it really annoys me that we run 35 VMs on a single Hypervisor though
17:01 < abakedapplepie> they all run like ass
17:01 < abakedapplepie> and its only got 2x 1620v3 in it
17:01 < abakedapplepie> not exactly a workhorse
17:01 < vinrock> who decided that
17:01 < vinrock> they should be publicly flogged
17:02 < abakedapplepie> someone who is not me
17:02 < MillerBOSS> Is the CPU pegged or is it disk I/O?
17:02 < abakedapplepie> just like every other asinine choice made here
17:02 < abakedapplepie> like using CRM as a mass mailer
17:02 < AnimalFarmPig> of course it depends on what you're running, but, iirc, 4:1 CPU oversubscription is maximum recommended
17:02 < abakedapplepie> or sharepoint as a wiki
17:02 < abakedapplepie> MillerBOSS: I/O is severely bottlenecked
17:02 < abakedapplepie> this hyper-v server is running 3 sql VMs and 2 exchange VMs
17:02 < Heresiarch> abakedapplepie: hey now...using sharepoint as a wiki is the bounden duty of every full-Microsoft shop/admin. Anything else is just gross.
17:03 < MillerBOSS> Through some flash at it
17:03 < abakedapplepie> and the two exchange environments service hundreds of users
17:03 < felda> JollyRgrs have you done certs like that for your work domain so you don't get that when signing into work devices?
17:03 < abakedapplepie> i think this server is on flash
17:03 < felda> Unfortunately I run a .local domain and don't have a Domain Certificate store setup
17:03 < abakedapplepie> at the very least the raid has a ssd cache
17:03 <@JollyRgrs> felda: i don't handle certs at work
17:03 < felda> err is it a Certificate Authority?
17:03 < felda> that's one thing I'm really bad at lol
17:03 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:04 <@JollyRgrs> only certs i ever dealt with is the self-signed SQL cert so i can do reportbuilder to SSRS
17:04 <@JollyRgrs> that and a DRA cert for bitlocker
17:05 < felda> is it difficult to setup a CA?
17:05 < abakedapplepie> no
17:05 < abakedapplepie> its like 2 lines of PS
17:05 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, you on?
17:05 < dragonfleas> I had a VPN site-to-site tunnel up and running yesterday
17:06 < dragonfleas> but today it just stopped working?
17:06 < dragonfleas> like wtf
17:06 < MillerBOSS> https://clickclickclick.click/ Have fun
17:06 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Click
17:06 < vinrock> what do the logs show
17:06 < Heresiarch> felda: check whether the MS CA will support .local . I know public providers stopped supporting it already, but not sure if the MS CA server does so in newer versions.
17:07 < felda> Heresiarch I know public isn't supposed to work with .local I was just curious if I could use Windows CA to deploy certs so I don't get dinged by chrome every time I want to login to pfsense or local network services like Unifi
17:07 < abakedapplepie> im pretty sure you can do whatever the fuck you want internally
17:07 < abakedapplepie> .local should probably work
17:08 < scwizard> 20 minutes and presenting my new plan to my boss
17:09 < scwizard> i feel so dumb for leaning so heavily on fargate with my old plan
17:09 < Heresiarch> scwizard: wasn't dumb, just didn't work the way you expected.
17:10 < MikeSpears> https://i.imgur.com/MQpYFdh.png fml
17:10 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 30,644 bytes
17:10 < Heresiarch> scwizard: the only thing you went wrong with was trying to push it for a little too long, but that's totally normal.
17:11 < abakedapplepie> whats fargate
17:11 < MikeSpears> don't fucking use local
17:11 < MikeSpears> jesus christ
17:12 < abakedapplepie> oh, no, of course not
17:12 < abakedapplepie> but hes already using local
17:12 < scwizard> eh my boss was kinda thinking i was giving up on fargate too early
17:12 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:12 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: what are you you building/ your requirements?
17:12 < MikeSpears> buy a domain... .info is cheap af
17:12 < MikeSpears> or .us if you're in the US
17:12 < MikeSpears> ffs
17:12 < scwizard> but I'm like "hey with the experience with had with aurora and with other aws newer stuff I think this is the right call"
17:12 < MikeSpears> just do shit right
17:12 < abakedapplepie> changing your domain is not necessarily easy though
17:12 < abakedapplepie> his shits already fucked
17:12 < MikeSpears> exactly
17:12 < abakedapplepie> may as well own it
17:12 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:12 < scwizard> basically my plan is to completely avoid any type of container orchestration, in the name of simplicity
17:12 < MikeSpears> might as well rebuild it
17:12 < MikeSpears> and de-fuck it
17:13 < scwizard> and have heavyweight containers with init systems
17:13 < AnimalFarmPig> good choice
17:13 < abakedapplepie> this is felda we are talking about
17:13 < scwizard> and run one container per instance
17:13 < McDonaldsWiFi> abakedapplepie: .local does all kinds of crazy shit to some systems
17:13 < Heresiarch> scwizard: ...
17:13 < scwizard> same AMI for all instances, and it runs a container based on its tag
17:13 < AnimalFarmPig> eliminate the container and just run VM's
17:13 < MikeSpears> felda has plenty of domains
17:13 < MikeSpears> wtf
17:13 < scwizard> Heresiarch: well the alternative seems to be going full into k8s
17:13 < Heresiarch> AnimalFarmPig: ++. scwizard why would you add a redundant layer into your architecture?
17:13 < MikeSpears> JUST USE A REAL DOMAIN lol
17:14 < scwizard> Heresiarch: easier to maintain, rather than building AMIs all the time
17:14 <@JollyRgrs> no issue in getting a .com for cheap unless the domain name you want just isn't available
17:14 < scwizard> docker images build way way way faster
17:14 < scwizard> and that way no need to reboot the instances and so on
17:14 <@JollyRgrs> but then you'll have ppl accidentally .com'ing your .us or .gTLD
17:14 < MikeSpears> .com, .net, .info, .us are all cheap
17:14 < MikeSpears> lol
17:14 < AnimalFarmPig> have you considered ansible for going from base AMI to application instance?
17:14 <@JollyRgrs> i mean, max of like $12/yr?
17:14 <@JollyRgrs> yeah...
17:14 < MikeSpears> I mean if it's for hostnames, jsust use the cheapest thing possible
17:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> coms and nets are that cheap comapred to us or info
17:14 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: i've done it that way before, but it doesn't play nice with autoscaling groups
17:14 < MikeSpears> you can get .info for like 5 a year
17:14 < McDonaldsWiFi> aren't**
17:14 < AnimalFarmPig> although, I don't think building AMI's for the different types is that much extra work
17:14 < MikeSpears> sometimes under a dollar
17:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> namecheap
17:15 < scwizard> it isn't but
17:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> 88 cent domains for a year
17:15 < Heresiarch> scwizard: ...oh, sweet summer child. AnimalFarmPig speaks wisdom.
17:15 < MikeSpears> fuck namecheap
17:15 < MikeSpears> namesilo is way better
17:15 < scwizard> this way the code can be baked into the dockerfile
17:15 < MikeSpears> shit UI, but fast af
17:15 < dragonfleas> how do i look at network objects in ASDM?
17:15 < scwizard> *docker image
17:15 < McDonaldsWiFi> i use namecheaps email service too, its pretty nice
17:15 < scwizard> and also this way we have the docker images
17:15 < MikeSpears> I used to like namecheap, when their site was fast but ugly
17:15 < scwizard> if fargate stops sucking, or we want to move to k8s or something
17:15 < MikeSpears> and they were actually cheap
17:16 < MikeSpears> now they're the same price as most others
17:16 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: left field idea-- if you don't need to be running on AWS, scaleway does bare metal provisioning with a docker-like syntax
17:16 < Heresiarch> scwizard: you could also differentiate running frontend from the queue worker. Former on fargate, latter on ASG+CM+AMIs.
17:16 < MikeSpears> namesilo is fast, cheap, and greeat
17:16 < scwizard> we do need to be running on aws
17:16 < MikeSpears> not a pretty ui, but who gives a fuck
17:16 < scwizard> Heresiarch: no no no, just not doing fargate anymore
17:16 < AnimalFarmPig> okay, just throwing it out there
17:16 < scwizard> i'm sketched out
17:17 < Heresiarch> scwizard: you're trying to overengineer this for what appears to be relatively little gain.
17:17 < scwizard> it seems really straightforward to me
17:17 < Heresiarch> scwizard: so did fargate.
17:17 < scwizard> and it means to update an instance, just docker pull, reboot docker
17:18 < scwizard> no need to reboot the instance, or rebuild an AMI or etc
17:18 < AnimalFarmPig> what kind of code are you running?
17:18 < scwizard> php
17:18 < AnimalFarmPig> if you can run in docker, presumably you're not doing any disk writes?
17:18 < scwizard> sure
17:19 < AnimalFarmPig> throw your PHP code into a shared EFS volume, have your worker nodes mount it. Only need to update in one place.
17:19 < scwizard> i considered that
17:19 < MikeSpears> why do you have to use aws
17:20 < MikeSpears> azure is better
17:20 < scwizard> because the infra is already all on aws
17:20 < MikeSpears> lol
17:20 < scwizard> moving cloud providers is a lot of effort
17:20 < scwizard> brb windows update
17:20 < MikeSpears> BUILD YOUR OWN CLOUD
17:20 < felda> abakedapplepie MikeSpears is it hard to transition from company.local domain to company.com?
17:20 < MikeSpears> that's the way to do it
17:20 < felda> I only have 1 server and 20 client computers
17:20 < MikeSpears> not super hard... just rebuild/rejoin
17:20 < ebol4> you could do that in like a day
17:20 < abakedapplepie> felda: you should have rebuilt that domain 3 years ago
17:20 < MikeSpears> yep
17:20 < felda> yeah I know
17:20 < MillerBOSS> Doesn't pfSense have a plugin to do that felda ?
17:20 < felda> but it's too late
17:20 < MikeSpears> for fucks sake
17:20 < felda> lmao
17:20 < MillerBOSS> I thought they did
17:20 < Heresiarch> MikeSpears: having been in a spot that tried building a "private cloud"....no.
17:20 < MikeSpears> do it on a saturday
17:20 < alazare619> OMG GUYS
17:21 < alazare619> i have found the biggest zip ties ever
17:21 < felda> MillerBOSS there's a new pfsense plugin that wipes your ass now too
17:21 < MikeSpears> lol
17:21 < alazare619> apparently HVAC uses them
17:21 < alazare619> things are fucking MASSIVE
17:21 < MikeSpears> does it chat with spectrum business felda?
17:21 < MillerBOSS> Yes! Where do I find it?
17:21 < abakedapplepie> alazare619: whatever it is, i guarantee there is bigger lol
17:21 < abakedapplepie> ive seen some truly ridiculous zip ties
17:21 < corn266> alazare619: pics or it didn't happen
17:22 < MikeSpears> oh ffs
17:22 < felda> Should I try to migrate to a new domain or should I just rip it out and re-install server 2012 r2 essentials?
17:22 < alazare619> https://www.homedepot.com/p/48-in-Nylon-Adjustable-Tie-25-Pack-TY48/100520679
17:22 < MikeSpears> upgrade to server 2016
17:22 < alazare619> 48" and capable of nearly 200lbs
17:22 < MikeSpears> why the fuck does spectrum biz use retarded session locking
17:22 < corn266> nice
17:22 < MikeSpears> Another user has logged in as "username" from "IP" since "2018-6-13 10:58:34".
17:22 < MikeSpears> fml
17:23 < MillerBOSS> Session locking for what?
17:23 < alazare619> so this monitor stand i purchased for a triple monitor setup for radiology
17:23 < MikeSpears> their PTR management UI
17:23 < alazare619> they stand has a minimum weight requirement
17:23 < MillerBOSS> Oh
17:23 < alazare619> the monitors dont meat it so the stand will not go lower then max height...
17:23 < alazare619> so going to zip tie the stand to the legs and force that sucker at the min height
17:23 < MikeSpears> alazare619: attach a brick
17:23 < MikeSpears> to each montior
17:23 < syere> just pop a 5lb weight on it
17:24 <+NinjaStyle> lead tape
17:24 <+NinjaStyle> all over it
17:24 < MillerBOSS> Use heavier meat.
17:24 < Nightcinder> Trump administration fails to block AT&T/Time Warner merger
17:24 < scwizard_> ok windows updated
17:24 < Nightcinder> sigh
17:24 < abakedapplepie> super glue
17:24 < MikeSpears> https://dns-email.twcbc.com/ straight outta the 90s
17:24 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  TWC DNS and Email Administrative Interface
17:24 < Nightcinder> rip ATT subscribers
17:25 < Nightcinder> "the judge's ruling, pending a possible appeal, would let AT&T complete the purchase without spinning off any subsidiaries."
17:25 < alazare619> all the big companies are merging because they are affraid of the google and netflix and facebook
17:25 < MillerBOSS> One judge is not the Trump administration
17:25 < scwizard_> Nightcinder: fuuuuuuuuuuuuck
17:25 < scwizard_> Nightcinder: my two ISPs are ATT and "spectrum"
17:26 < scwizard_> i don't wanna go down to only having 1 ISP
17:26 < abakedapplepie> i use att for cell and tv service
17:26 < abakedapplepie> :|
17:26 < MikeSpears> spectrum has nothing to do with TWC..
17:26 < MikeSpears> lol
17:26 < Heresiarch> Nightcinder: keep in mind this is Time Warner-that-makes-TV-shows, not Time-Warner-that-provided-internet.
17:26 < MikeSpears> yup
17:26 < insecurity> you're all on the spectrum, aren't you?
17:26 < scwizard_> aren't they the same company?
17:26 < MikeSpears> Time Warner and Time Warner Cable are two different entites
17:26 < Heresiarch> MikeSpears: also, TWC got folded into Spectrum.
17:26 < MikeSpears> spelling
17:26 < MikeSpears> yup
17:26 < MikeSpears> I know lol
17:26 < MillerBOSS> Also https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1006641241046573056
17:26 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Oliver Darcy on Twitter: "DOJ says it is "disappointed" with AT&T decision and that it "will closely review the Court’s opinion and consider next steps in light of our commitment to preserving competition for the benefit of American consumers.”… https:...
17:26 < MikeSpears> I worked for Spectrum till Monday
17:26 < MikeSpears> lol
17:27 < Heresiarch> Short-term, the ATT+TW merger will make ATT more like Comcast in terms of owning a TV/Movie studio.
17:27 < Nightcinder> Heresiarch: yeah but it makes them comcast now
17:27 < MikeSpears> and that's quite clear as I'm using a TWC URL to manage certain aspects of my business services
17:27 < MikeSpears> lol
17:27 < felda> some guides showing I could just use the Domain Rename process to switch from company.local to lan.company.com or ad.company.com
17:28 < scwizard_> oh Time Warner and Time Warner Cable split in 2009
17:28 < felda> I have no exchange server so it should be easy peasy?
17:28 < Popzi> hm, 1 user in o365 is getting emails as "Pending", and are going to "Spam Diagnostics" - Any ideas?
17:28 < MillerBOSS> With extra peas left over, felda
17:28 < felda> :O
17:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> Popzi: been flagged as a spammer in action center?
17:28 < alazare619> felda i some times wonder how you fel into IT
17:28 < felda> lmao
17:28 < MikeSpears> felda is retarded
17:28 < alazare619> some of your questions are like..are you serious?
17:29 < MillerBOSS> Doesn't hurt to ask. He is all alone over there
17:29 < felda> no real schooling to be honest lmao
17:29 < felda> I pretty much just rammed my head through the crack in the door and forced it open
17:29 < MillerBOSS> Always good to bounce shit off others
17:29 < MikeSpears> felda: I'm totally self-taught too
17:29 < Hatter> I think felda is a bright and sweet boy
17:29 < alazare619> same here but some of your questions are just...out there?
17:29 < Hatter> don't listen to these jerks
17:29 < felda> I was supposed to be just Data Entry
17:29 < Popzi> McDonaldsWiFi: good shout, lemme try and find this action center
17:29 < alazare619> like do you think before you speak?
17:29 < felda> I don't really have any mentors or trainers
17:29 < MikeSpears> and I don't ask things as dumb as you
17:29 < MillerBOSS> Yeah don't listen to alazare619
17:29 < MikeSpears> LISTEN TO MEEEEE
17:29 < felda> I also don't know how to read books so you know it's a real struggle for me
17:30 < alazare619> yea reading is hard
17:30 < MikeSpears> felda: you're jk right?
17:30  * SpeakerToMeat kneels weeping
17:30 < felda> LOL
17:30 <+SpeakerToMeat> No, wrong channel
17:30 < felda> Poe's Law
17:30 < MikeSpears> you can't fucking read???
17:30  * alazare619 gets some popcorn
17:30 < MillerBOSS> Reading books us hard for me as well and not kidding
17:30 < felda> SpeakerToMeat OwO wats this
17:30 < MillerBOSS> is*
17:30 < nurgle> owo
17:30 <+SpeakerToMeat> felda: I'm sad
17:30  * felda notices your bulgy wulgy
17:31 < MillerBOSS> Video tutorials do it though
17:31 <+SpeakerToMeat> felda: The other day I went to felda.io for some good music and it was down
17:31 < Popzi> McDonaldsWiFi: where is this action center you speak of? Microsoft products...
17:31 <+NinjaStyle> god dammit why is outlook retarded
17:31 < felda> yeah sorry that was cryptic1's fault
17:31 < MikeSpears> 000webhost had an outage yesterday
17:31 < MikeSpears> LOL
17:31 < grumplestiltzkin> felda: I put in 3 tickets already about felda.io being down.  wat do
17:31 < alazare619> i like to listen to mikes meyers audiobooks
17:32 < felda> I was just curious because Microsoft has documentation about renaming domains, but is also probably leaving out important information that might completely fuck my domain if I do it wrong lmao
17:32 < MillerBOSS> Yeah audiobooks and video tutorials are where its at
17:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> Popzi: goto your admin center, then exchange admin
17:32 < alazare619> he had to take felda.io down because he is restructuring his work domain to AD.Felda.io
17:32 < felda> ^^^
17:32 < alazare619> 0 budget so he owns the domain himself now
17:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> Popzi: under Protection there is an action center
17:32 < felda> I actually use felda.io as my domain at home lol
17:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> nah he's turning felda.io to felda.local
17:32 < Hatter> felda: those domain renaming tools can be pretty dangerous, I think most people will say to stand up a new DC and build a trust relationship and transition over
17:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda.xxx
17:32 < pcspkr> those .local domains really piss me off
17:32 < Popzi> McDonaldsWiFi: ah yes, ty, microsoft need a navigation menu for its navigation menus
17:32 < grumplestiltzkin> Hatter++
17:32 < deww> .global
17:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
17:33 < Popzi> McDonaldsWiFi: also, it's empty :P
17:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> Popzi: not sure if the end user is notified, but sometimes they can get flagged for spam and be sent there lol
17:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> ahhh :(
17:33 < felda> What are the dangers of using the Domain Renaming tools?
17:33 < felda> I have a very small AD environment
17:33 < MikeSpears> the AD catches on fire
17:33 < MikeSpears> explodes
17:33 < MillerBOSS> https://blog.varonis.com/risks-renaming-your-domain-in-active-directory/
17:33 < felda> all services already hosted and running off of the DC
17:33 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Risks of Renaming Your Domain in Active Directory
17:33 < pcspkr> I wouldn't say there's any "dangers", but it's simply unsupported for many products
17:33 < MikeSpears> bill gates rapes you
17:33 < pcspkr> like exchange and sccm
17:34 < Popzi> McDonaldsWiFi: hm, ty, very usual for it to suddenly begin pending 1 persons emails :\
17:34 < abakedapplepie> felda: you are listing all the reasons why you should rip it out and replace it
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: i've used Profile Wiz 3, it worked okay
17:34 < abakedapplepie> lol
17:34 < Popzi> unusual*
17:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: but it has a like... 20% to completely shit on the profile in question and make you pull it all manually
17:34 < MikeSpears> profwiz is amazing
17:34 < MillerBOSS> But you don't have exchange felda so I'd think you'd be good.
17:34 < felda> ouchies
17:34 < felda> so if I did domain renaming I would potentially have to backup every profile just to make sure they don't shit the bed?
17:35 < abakedapplepie> you wouldnt lose the old profiles
17:35 <+SpeakerToMeat> felda: Wait you've gone from learning pfsense to learning ms domains? you're going downhill dude.
17:35 < abakedapplepie> if a user profile exists with the same name from the old domain, it just creates a new profile named user.DOMAIN
17:35 < felda> SpeakerToMeat I take the long and slow back country roads
17:35 < felda> so I would just have to copy the profile to the new folder then I suppose
17:35 < MillerBOSS> If it were me felda I'd set up a lab environment and see what happens so you know
17:36 < felda> Here's my end game
17:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> my lab is production
17:36 < felda> I want to connect my AD to O365 so when my users login they all use their emails and their O365 passwords
17:36 < MillerBOSS> Yea sometimes
17:36 < pcspkr> felda: just add alternative UPN's
17:36 < felda> but I can't do that with company.local because microsoft has "standards" or something stupid like that
17:37 <+NinjaStyle> u can add new UPNs without rename
17:37 <+NinjaStyle> like the domain suffixes
17:37 < felda> sure I could do that
17:37 < felda> but I want to go beyond
17:37 < pcspkr> beyond the call of pfsense
17:38 < felda> I want to do username/password syncs with Office 365
17:38 < abakedapplepie> make a new domain
17:38 < abakedapplepie> and while youre at it get off essentials
17:38 < F34RInc> ^'
17:38 < MillerBOSS> lol
17:38 < pcspkr> migrate to samba 4
17:38 < abakedapplepie> you cant hook to azure unless youre at what 2012 functional level?
17:38 < F34RInc> you really want to create a new domain
17:38 <+SpeakerToMeat> fuck I love this song
17:38 < pcspkr> full radical
17:38 <+NinjaStyle> you can do AD sync without changing the domain
17:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: directory sync! its not too bad
17:38 < felda> abakedapplepie I mean I can just install essentials and then remove the essentials role
17:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> and its free pretty much
17:39 <+TuxedoJack> Users complain there's a mail delivery lag. Look at the Barracuda. "In/Out Queue Size: 3935/26. Average Latency: 1122 seconds"
17:39 < abakedapplepie> thats a slight delay
17:39 < MillerBOSS> >Barracuda
17:39 <+TuxedoJack> "Oh, yeah, $CTO's been messing with the load balancer. He didn't tell you all?"
17:39 < abakedapplepie> slight
17:39 <+TuxedoJack> MOTHER. FUCKER.
17:40 < grumplestiltzkin> TuxedoJack: "$X_EXECUTIVE has been touching things" causes the chills down the spine
17:41 < grumplestiltzkin> like spider sense
17:41 < felda> TuxedoJack your first mistake was not ignoring your users complaints about something being slow
17:41 <+TuxedoJack> grumplestiltzkin: $CTO is the head sysadmin
17:41 <+TuxedoJack> Just used that as his title
17:41 <+TuxedoJack> Since the only people higher than him are the owners of the company
17:42 <+TuxedoJack> By comparison, I'm about 1 - 1.5 steps lower than that
17:43 < syere> I remember the jobs when I figured out I knew more than my boss, when my age would make companies only give me Jr. titles. I'll never forget when my boss, the "Sr. Systems Admin" decided to run a fsck -y on a live, mounted, database partition.
17:43 < Heresiarch> syere: File consistency? #YOLO
17:44 < syere> whats better was, that company had laid me off 5 months previous. And someone there disabled all my  backups during that time. He decided to do this on my first day back. Backups didn't exist
17:49 < jaelae> had a brief outage
17:49 < jaelae> and i think i know why. but i think someones gonna get in trouble
17:50 < Popzi> god damn, this person is getting valuable emails and they're just fking stuck there "pending" >_> why microsoft why
17:51 < vinrock> poopzi
17:52 < Hunterkll> Popzi, cuz u fukt up ur config
17:52 < Popzi> Hunterkll: aint not dun touched it boss
17:52 < Hunterkll> probably did something different then what the PA or documentation suggests
17:52 < Hunterkll> well den someone else did
17:52 < Popzi> nop am de only wan who has access to it
17:53 < Hunterkll> then maybe the outside sender fucked up
17:53 < Hunterkll> and they changed some DNS settings
17:53 < Popzi> is multiple senders boss
17:53 < Popzi> everyone else wurkin fine boss
17:53 < Hunterkll> tell the user to stop getting emails
17:54 < Popzi> ok that sorted it
17:55 < corn266> someone under trained their naive bayes spam filter
17:56 <+NinjaStyle> bleehhh
17:58 < Hunterkll> i remember when bayesian spam filters first hit the scene and were super popular
17:58 < Hunterkll> i had one in my outlook 2003
17:58 < estranger> Hunterkll, SPAM ASSASSIN
17:59 < GreyKite> anyone use Service Now for ticketing?
17:59 < Hunterkll> estranger, http://www.spam-reader.com/anti-spam-exchange.shtml
17:59 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Spam Reader - Anti-Spam  Filter for MS Exchange accounts
17:59 < Hunterkll> jesus christ
17:59 < Hunterkll> it supports exchange 5.5
17:59 < estranger> wow
17:59 < Hunterkll> and it was last updated THIS MONTH
17:59 < Hunterkll> whatdafuq
18:00 < estranger> policy update for gdpr :P
18:00 < Hunterkll> oh nevermind
18:00 < Hunterkll> estranger, it runs in the outlook client, that's why
18:00 < Hunterkll> lol
18:00 < scwizard_> ok boss liked my plan
18:00 < scwizard_> liked how simple it was yay
18:01 < scwizard_> why do i have an underscore?
18:01 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i upgraded to 8.4(6) last night and now our whole site is down
18:01 < dragonfleas> it has been since this morning
18:01 < scwizard> 8.4(6) of what?
18:01 <@killdash9> GreyKite: you mean 'Service? Now?'
18:01 < dragonfleas> ASA 8.4(6)
18:01 < scwizard> exchange?
18:02 < scwizard> cripes
18:02 < Hunterkll> O.o
18:02 <@killdash9> aka Service Never and Service No
18:02 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, okay, so what the hell did you do wrong
18:02 < Hunterkll> did you save config while the ASA was on 8.2 ?
18:02 < dragonfleas> Yes
18:02 < dragonfleas> I have everything backed up
18:02 < Hunterkll> write mem / save run start
18:02 < Hunterkll> lol
18:03 < Hunterkll> ASDM still work?
18:03 < dragonfleas> i can't even access the firewall
18:03 < GreyKite> killdash9: oh dear
18:03 < dragonfleas> nope asdm doesn't work
18:03 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, got a console cable?
18:03 < GreyKite> killdash9: that bad? there is so much screaming about our current ticketing system that they are looking to move off
18:03 < dragonfleas> apparently the upgrade from 8.2 to 8.4(6) requires changes in the NAT statements otherwise it breaks the firewall
18:03 < dragonfleas> sigh
18:03 < Hunterkll> killdash9, GreyKite Service Now can be fucking AMAZING if it's configured right
18:04 < Hunterkll> take their actual training and see that
18:04 < dragonfleas> i shouldn't have trusted u
18:04 < dragonfleas> lmao
18:04 < Hunterkll> th4en let some other team in your company fuck it up
18:04 <@killdash9> the worst ticket system in the world is the one you currently use. The second worst is the one you're about to change to
18:04 < dragonfleas> i don't have a console cable
18:04 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you did run off and do the upgrade after you signed off irc without reading all the documentation
18:04 < scwizard> dragonfleas: i hope you have a girl who can give you a hug tonight cause you need one
18:04 < GreyKite> killdash9: fuuuuck
18:04 < dragonfleas> where can i buy a console cable it
18:04 < dragonfleas> at
18:04 < Hunterkll> GreyKite, just install spiceworks
18:04 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, got a microcenter nearby?
18:04 < GreyKite> Hunterkll: not my call
18:04 < Hunterkll> lol
18:04 < GreyKite> dragonfleas: amazon
18:04 <@killdash9> as long as you avoid Remedy at all costs, you should be okay
18:04 < dragonfleas> nope, no microcenters in oklahoma
18:04 < dragonfleas> LMAO
18:05 < dragonfleas> i need one right now so i can fix this shit
18:05 <@killdash9> The problem with most ticketing systems is inconsitent usage. So management thinks the fix is to change the software, not the way it's used. They always devolve into a clusterfuck
18:06 <@killdash9> I have yet to see, in 25+ years in this industry, a company use the same ticketing system for more than 2 years. After two years, things get so bad they decide changing systems is the answer
18:06 < scwizard> we had JIRA and it was a clusterufck
18:06 < scwizard> so we hired a JIRA consultant so we could have someone responsible for JIRA being a clusterfuck
18:06 < Hunterkll> killdash9, SNOW here, 3 years and counting
18:06 < scwizard> (this was at my old company)
18:06 < jaelae> jiras good
18:06 < jaelae> but we have a team just to make it work
18:06 < Hunterkll> killdash9, merging BU from $acquiring_company is also on SNOW
18:07 <@killdash9> we literally have three systems right now becuase teams won't give up their old shit every tinme a new one gets brought in
18:07 < Hunterkll> our weak point is our helpdesk that cant assign tickets worth shit but we know it and just punt things around properly
18:07 <@killdash9> and 4 different document/info storage setups.
18:08 <+giant_it_burrit> jira has been fairly painless over here
18:08 <+giant_it_burrit> i didnt like snow
18:08 < Hunterkll> https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/8qruau/honestly_its_life_advice/
18:08 < Hunterkll> hahaha
18:08 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Honestly, it's life advice : funny
18:08 <+giant_it_burrit> i have no help desk niow
18:08 < corn266> don't worry i'll be your help desk giant_it_burrit
18:08 < Hunterkll> AHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
18:08 < Hunterkll> "Best brief I ever got in the army was “Don’t experiment with any drugs this weekend but if you do make sure you make your Air Force buddy try it first and wait 20 mins”
18:08 < Hunterkll> "
18:09 < corn266> but only if all the tickets can be escalated
18:09 < scwizard> i bet the military has a lot of briefs like that "absolutely no sleeping with prostitutes but if you do for fucks sake use a condom you mother fuckers"
18:09 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/46dkfx/any_asa_upgrade_success_stories/d04fbux/
18:09 <+layer-eight> * dragonfleas →  nyc4life comments on Any ASA upgrade success stories?
18:10 < Hunterkll> looool
18:10 < GreyKite> Yeah, we have only had this system for about 2 years but the main issue is the hosts we use because everything has to be cloud based now
18:10 < dragonfleas> apparently you have to upgrade from 8.2(5) to 8.4(5) to 8.4(6)
18:10 < GreyKite> because....
18:10 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, luckily, 9.1.7 is ancient, so you're good there
18:10 < GreyKite> I don't know
18:10 < dragonfleas> sigh
18:10 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, that's funny, cisco's documentation says 8.4(6)
18:10 < Hunterkll> well
18:10 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, what you need is a usb -> serial adapter
18:10 < dragonfleas> how do i revert with the console cable?
18:11 < dragonfleas> i'll update you in a bit, gotta go search my office at HQ for a console cable
18:11 < GreyKite> Hunterkll: you can get cables that are USB to console
18:11 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, honestly i thought you had one :o
18:12 < Hunterkll> and were on site doing the upgrades....
18:12 < vinrock> is it possible to generate an o365 report of all inbound and outbound TLD's?
18:12 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, it'll be blue. RJ45 one end, serial the other
18:12 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you can also make your own if you need to
18:12 < Hunterkll> radioshack has all the parts you need
18:12 < Hunterkll> :P
18:12 < vinrock> those still exist?
18:12 < Hunterkll> like 15
18:12 < vinrock> whoa
18:12 < Hunterkll> plus the cobranded inside hardware store things
18:13 < Hunterkll> vinrock, only corporate owned stores shuttered. franchises didn't
18:13 < vinrock> ah no shit
18:13 < Hunterkll> https://www.radioshack.com/
18:13 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  RadioShack: Electronics + DIY Tools & Parts
18:13 < Hunterkll> vinrock, site even accepts returns again
18:13 < vinrock> i loved radio shack even more than toys r us as a kid
18:14 < Hunterkll> ya i only see authroized radioshack dealers on the east coast
18:14 < Hunterkll> but still
18:14 < Hunterkll> wtf
18:14 < Hunterkll> a new one is opening lol
18:14 < Hunterkll> in connecticut
18:14 < vinrock> got my first soldering iron after wathing short circuit
18:14 < Hunterkll> the 'authorized dealer' bit
18:14 < vinrock> then used it to pretend i was making bombs or give my ninja turtles battle damage
18:14 < Hunterkll> https://www.radioshack.com/apps/store-locator
18:14 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  RadioShack
18:15 < vinrock> meh the only one in jersey is far af
18:15 < scwizard> so much work to do...
18:16 < Hunterkll> vinrock, i like how radio shack before they shuttered stopped selling the wire wrap tool 3 years before
18:16 < Hunterkll> but not the wire wrap wire
18:16 < Hunterkll> like wtf
18:16 < Hunterkll> lol
18:16 < vinrock> hah
18:16 < Hunterkll> i had to buy one off amazon instead
18:16 < Hunterkll> :p
18:17 < Hunterkll> vinrock, https://www.amazon.com/Radio-Shack-Wire-wrapping-Gauge-RadioShack/dp/B000TLWYX6/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1528906625&sr=8-6&keywords=wire+wrap+tool
18:17 < Hunterkll> it's even prime
18:17 < Hunterkll> >_>
18:17 < Hunterkll> You purchased this item on November 17, 2017.
18:17 < Hunterkll> lol
18:17 < vinrock> https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x89c2fc0e4838fa9b:0x2057f6ffba08516f!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipNetfjjOGUMr06UOPfyFoevBFUk29VlvwUw8eAP%3Dw320-h240-k-no!5smicro+center+nj+-+Google+Search&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipNetfjjOGUMr06UOPfyFoevBFUk29VlvwUw8eAP&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHr_WFhdHbAhWD0FMKHYr5Dt4QoioIz
18:17 < vinrock> wEwCg
18:17 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  micro center nj - Google Search
18:17 < vinrock> i recently found out about this place nearby
18:17 < vinrock> it looks fucking amazing
18:17 < Hunterkll> nice url there
18:17 < Hunterkll> eh
18:17 < vinrock> heh yeah ikr
18:17 < Hunterkll> it's okay
18:17 < Hunterkll> i once made a large purchase there
18:17 < Hunterkll> well, at the rockville/DC one
18:17 < vinrock> microcenter?
18:18 < Hunterkll> ya
18:18 < vinrock> oh no shit i didnt know it was a chain
18:18 < vinrock> idk how i never heard of this place
18:18 < Hunterkll> lol
18:18 < Hunterkll> it's the new compusa
18:18 < vinrock> the pictures look like nerd mecca
18:18 < Hunterkll> vinrock, i maaay have fucked with their heads
18:18 < Hunterkll> maaay
18:18 < Hunterkll> vinrock, https://i.imgur.com/BcbQIAT.png
18:18 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 472,233 bytes
18:19 < vinrock> damn thats gotta be rad being able to buy all your components from a brick and mortar store
18:19 < Hunterkll> vinrock, the rad part was having to because i paid in cash
18:19 < vinrock> ah
18:19 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/ps3F2PF.png
18:19 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 321,651 bytes
18:20 < vinrock> lol jesus christ you bought a 2gig 960
18:20 < Hunterkll> "Oh just give me your most expensive CPU, most expensive SSD, oh and throw two 1080 Ti's on top. and uh, what's your cheapest air cooler?"
18:20 < AnimalFarmPig> Microcenter is awesome. You can find lots of parts there.
18:20 < AnimalFarmPig> Need a 13W3 -> DB15 adapter? Microcenter. 50 pin to 68 pin SCSI adapter? Microcenter. etc.
18:20 < Hunterkll> not always
18:20 < Hunterkll> mine aint got that shit
18:20 < AnimalFarmPig> except not anymore
18:20 < vinrock> oh hey only 25 stores in the country i guess i am kinda lucky
18:20 < Hunterkll> or if they do it's in the wrong direction
18:20 < Hunterkll> and they only have one
18:21 < AnimalFarmPig> back when those things were halfway relevant, Microcenter had them in stock
18:21 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, yea and they only had like 3 stores too
18:21 < vinrock> i got one in jersey and another about the same distance away in brooklyn
18:21 < Hunterkll> so
18:21 < AnimalFarmPig> Hunterkll: Dallas has had one since the late 90's. Also Fry's, which typically carried that kind of stuff as well.
18:22 < Hunterkll> AnimalFarmPig, yea but do they carry anti-virus protected cables? https://i.imgur.com/SH3jX3w.png
18:22 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 1,063,621 bytes
18:22 < vinrock> dude
18:23 < AnimalFarmPig> wow
18:23 < vinrock> did you take that photo
18:23 < Hunterkll> no
18:23 < vinrock> id HAVE to own a set of those
18:23 < AnimalFarmPig> I wonder if Monster Cables makes any anti-virus cables...
18:23 < Hunterkll> vinrock, https://i.imgur.com/piK14Iz.png
18:23 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 284,420 bytes
18:23 < Hunterkll> you could be the guy installing a PCIe GPU into a pentium 2 or pentium 3
18:23 < vinrock> lol
18:23 < Hunterkll> that sounds like a better job
18:24 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/EYWZlh0.png
18:24 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 746,248 bytes
18:25 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:25 < abakedapplepie> is that a random wifi antenna
18:25 < abakedapplepie> next to the gpu
18:25 < scwizard> need to work
18:26 < Hunterkll> abakedapplepie, haven't you seen the new wifi enabled GPUs for pentium 2s ?
18:26 < abakedapplepie> its WiDi right?
18:26 < Hunterkll> no
18:26 < abakedapplepie> :P
18:27 < MadCamel> Heh. For some reason I'm thinking of the worst PC I ever repaired again. Nice gaming rig, someone just gave it to me. They were a chainsmoker. They kept the ashtray right in front of the intake fan..
18:27 < abakedapplepie> meh
18:28 < abakedapplepie> CNC shop computers are the best
18:28 < abakedapplepie> those guys chain smoke all day and then you get the dust and particulates from he factory
18:28 < abakedapplepie> one factory refurbishes tires, they grind the old tread off. rubber dust EVERYWHERE
18:28 < MadCamel> The whole thing got disassembled and washed in industrial degreaser in the bathtub, mobo, cables, psu(why not?), everything except the drives. It took 4 wash/rinse cycles to get it clean.
18:28 < abakedapplepie> rubber. dust.
18:29 < MadCamel> oof. tires have carbon black in them. that's conductive..
18:29 < abakedapplepie> somehow they still operate
18:29 < abakedapplepie> we resorted to building thin clients from old old old computers
18:29 < abakedapplepie> under the assumption we'd have to throw a new one in there every year
18:29 < abakedapplepie> so far so good
18:30 < MadCamel> that works. Hell, I've seen people tape furnace air filters to the front to keep stuff out, works a treat.
18:30 < abakedapplepie> another place does steel, their plasma CNC machine gets a thick fine dust of burnt steel
18:30 < abakedapplepie> that one HAS been replaced like 4 times
18:32 < Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/8xW3ejk.png
18:32 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 550,577 bytes
18:32 < MadCamel> if they have plasma cutters and steel they could just fab a box to keep their pc alive. but notmyjob.jpg
18:32 < Hunterkll> this is how dragonfleas is doing his firewall upgrades
18:32 < Hunterkll> :/
18:33 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: ...must...not...laugh...
18:36 < felda> F34RInc installed pfsense dev and pfblockerng dev at home. all looks good.
18:36 < F34RInc> felda, when did you setup a box at home
18:36 < felda> yeah
18:37 < admiralspark> yep
18:39 < Nightcinder> https://i.redd.it/948k4fzvar311.jpg
18:39 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 863,406 bytes
18:39 < Hunterkll> yes
18:39 < Nightcinder> rip wallet
18:39 < felda> F34RInc last night
18:39 < felda> I got my Easy2Boot working with FreeBSD images
18:39 < felda> so I installed pfsense on my new high end machine I'm going to use as a router at home
18:39 < F34RInc> do you have more setup at home than whats at work, rule \ list wise
18:39 < abakedapplepie> whats easy2boot
18:40 < felda> F34RInc a little bit.  I'm only using DNSBL at home with SHallalist turned on
18:41 < felda> F34RInc this is my ultra machine I just got  https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-inspiron-531s-dts-athlon-x2-5000-plus-2-6-ghz-3-gb-320-gb/specs/
18:41 <+layer-eight> * felda →  Dell Inspiron 531s Specs - CNET
18:41 < felda> 8GB of DDR2 RAM
18:41 < felda> I'm flyin my dude
18:41 < F34RInc> xbone 360 style
18:41 < felda> XD
18:41 < felda> pretty much
18:42 < F34RInc> what did you pay for it
18:42 < felda> it's a low power machine that I got from my parents attic.
18:42 < felda> nuked the drive
18:42 < F34RInc> ah thats best, hope the PSU doesnt die on you
18:42 < felda> put in a PCI NIC I had laying around
18:42 < felda> no AES-NI
18:42 < felda> :(
18:42 < vinrock> pfelda you can get a used watchguard xtm 5 series for like 100 buckeroos and ofsense that bish
18:43 < vinrock> pfsense, too
18:43 < felda> vinrock I actually already did that with one of the older watchguards
18:43 < F34RInc> its more than enough until AES is required
18:43 < felda> didn't like it
18:43 < felda> to be honest I kinda like the slim PC i have because it's in my living room and I'd prefer it to be really quiet
18:43 < felda> My ears are sensitive
18:43 < vinrock> yeah i smell ya
18:44 < felda> my parents were heavy smokers
18:44 < felda> that PC is RANK
18:44 < felda> spent like 15 minutes with alcohol and swabs and used my electric duster outside before I brought it in
18:44 < felda> they also have a ton of cats
18:45 < felda> have I ever told you what tar, cat fur, and cat piss mixes together like?
18:45 < vinrock> oh i know
18:45 < vinrock> i did a home remodeling from an old cat lady that died
18:45 < felda>  (ಥ﹏ಥ) RIP all electronics in my parents house
18:45 < vinrock> ripping up the carpet it was dripping piss
18:45 < estranger> i got 3 cats and a house pony... my electronics are fine. just gotta clean yer house sometimes
18:45 < felda> my parents did that 1 year after moving into their house.  100% wood floors only
18:46 < estranger> vinrock, gross
18:46 < vinrock> yeah it was horrific
18:46 < admiralspark> you have a *house pony*??
18:46 < vinrock> and one of her many cats had like a giant tumor
18:46 < vinrock> that was like, spraying blood all over the walls
18:46 < abakedapplepie> i think the people that had our house before us smoked heavily in the bedroom
18:46 < abakedapplepie> my wife got a humidifier
18:46 < abakedapplepie> and brown goop started seeping through the paint
18:46 < abakedapplepie> D:
18:46 < vinrock> yikes
18:46 < admiralspark> you guys are fucking terrifying
18:46 < admiralspark> haha
18:46 < estranger> admiralspark, https://i.imgur.com/P3mnGep.jpg
18:46 <+layer-eight> * estranger →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 427,371 bytes
18:47 < vinrock> i smoked inside the house i used to rent, that was a bad thing to have done
18:47 < abakedapplepie> yeah when i noticed it was a "burn the place down" moment, its really disgusting and hard to clean
18:47 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: the former occupents were renters D:
18:47 < vinrock> ah yep
18:47 < estranger> or baby for scale https://i.imgur.com/iL7bjIk.jpg
18:47 <+layer-eight> * estranger →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 1,096,219 bytes
18:47 < felda> F34RInc I also got a big /64 from comcast and get to split it into /60 if I feel like screwing around with VLANs
18:47 < abakedapplepie> also pretty sure they had a grow up
18:47 < abakedapplepie> grow op*
18:47 < felda> having IPv6 working without having to do a HE Tunnel is nice
18:47 < abakedapplepie> no evidence in the house, but when we called to arrange our winter-summer payment plan for electricity
18:48 < abakedapplepie> they said they averaged $700 a month
18:48 < abakedapplepie> in electricity
18:48 < abakedapplepie> .
18:48 < felda> Turns out Netflix treats HE Tunnel as a VPN and blocks you :(
18:48 < vinrock> did you check the attic for a clothesline they hung the bud from
18:48 < abakedapplepie> attic is unusable
18:48 < abakedapplepie> very low
18:48 < F34RInc> felda, I have shit 20/2 CenturyLink with zero other choices
18:48 < abakedapplepie> which sucks because i have to replace ALL the insulation
18:48 < felda> aww :9
18:48 < abakedapplepie> its all destroyed from decades of mice
18:48 < vinrock> hows the roof
18:49 < abakedapplepie> roof is surprisingly in great shape
18:49 < felda> F34RInc the funny thing is our fiber provider at work doesn't have IPv6 running at all in any capacity
18:49 < admiralspark> estranger: hahahah
18:49 < abakedapplepie> its not original, i think its got about 25 years on it now
18:49 < vinrock> heh thats good/sucks
18:49 < felda> It's a local telecomm cooperative
18:49 < vinrock> coulda killed two birds with one stone
18:49 < abakedapplepie> and the shingles are about 10-15 years
18:49 < abakedapplepie> they are the "3d" style shingles
18:49 < abakedapplepie> so they cant be that old
18:49 < abakedapplepie> those popped up at most 15 years ago i want to say
18:49 < vinrock> get a company to come in a do blow-in insulation
18:50 < abakedapplepie> thats the plan
18:50 < abakedapplepie> i want to diy it
18:50 < abakedapplepie> but the lack of space up there is really awful
18:50 < abakedapplepie> and the heat
18:50 < vinrock> you'll be fuckin miserable trying to lay rolls in low clearance
18:50 < abakedapplepie> oh, i would do blow in
18:50 < felda> I haven't goofed around that much with IPv6 but do all devices work with IPv6 Router Advertisements fine?  I read a little about how they can get goofy, but haven't actually encountered any issues yet
18:50 < vinrock> ah ok
18:50 < abakedapplepie> you can rent it from HD for like $300
18:50 < vinrock> oh no shit
18:50 < abakedapplepie> and its like $50 for a bale of shredded newspaper shit
18:50 < abakedapplepie> my boss did his bigasshouse with 2 bales
18:50 < F34RInc> felda, havent messed with Ipv6 yet
18:51 < MillerBOSS> "Download for free" bought some CPUs for work https://starterpack.intel.com/#/app-details/1989
18:51 < MadCamel> my place has 1.5" wallspaces for some early-1800's reason. Not even bothering trying to insulate.
18:51 < MillerBOSS> FINAL FANTASY® XV: WINDOWS EDITION
18:52 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: 3d style shingles? you mean the architectural shake looking ones?
18:52 < corn266> Any reason to get a Seagate IronWolf Pro drive over an encrypted western digital drive?
18:52 <@JollyRgrs> bunch of tabs that overlap vs the plain 3 large sections?
18:52 < abakedapplepie> ive always seen them referred to as 3d
18:52 < abakedapplepie> yes those
18:52 < MillerBOSS> Warhammer: Vermintide II as well
18:52 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: those are nice, hold up better to high winds (esp. good for those of us in hurricane areas)
18:53 < vinrock> there would have to be a gun to my head for me to purchase seagate anything
18:53 <@JollyRgrs> i know my parents put it on their roof and we built that from 2000-2004 (we built ourselves)
18:53 < MillerBOSS> I have 6 license codes. Come one come all
18:53 < abakedapplepie> yeah i feel like thats about when they came out
18:53 <@JollyRgrs> so yeah, at least 15 yrs, maybe longer
18:53 < abakedapplepie> i dont really remember seeing them before that
18:53 <@JollyRgrs> but 15 yrs for a roof is nearing EOL
18:53 < abakedapplepie> yeah, i know
18:53 < abakedapplepie> :/
18:53 < MadCamel> no reason to get an encrypted drive unless you're ticking a regulatory checkbox or want to be able to instantly destroy all the data by nuking the key. They're not very secure otherwise..
18:53 < abakedapplepie> its honestly in great shape though
18:54 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: lots of shade?
18:54 < abakedapplepie> no leaks, no missing tiles, no water damage at all on the inside that i could see
18:54 < abakedapplepie> not a TON, but theres some
18:54 < admiralspark> MadCamel: what? How are they "not secure"? If it's an encrypted drive the point is that without the key, they are secure
18:54 <@JollyRgrs> usually the sun will bake off a TON of years off of the "warranty" years the shingles first advertised
18:55 < abakedapplepie> i dont recall if they ever actually told us when the roof was replaced
18:55 < abakedapplepie> my neighbors just closed their house for 186,5
18:55 < abakedapplepie> 32k more than we just bought ours for
18:55 < abakedapplepie> our house is the same house and we have like 500 sqft more on our lawn
18:56 < MillerBOSS> https://store.steampowered.com/app/637650/FINAL_FANTASY_XV_WINDOWS_EDITION/ and https://store.steampowered.com/app/552500/Warhammer_Vermintide_2/ 6 license codes for free. Hit me up
18:56 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  ⚓  https://store.steampowered.com/app/552500/agecheck → Warhammer: Vermintide 2 on Steam
18:56 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  ⚓  https://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/637650/ → FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION on Steam
18:56 < abakedapplepie> iso
18:56 < abakedapplepie> both
18:56 < MillerBOSS> Our house, is a very very very fine house.
18:56 < abakedapplepie> my friends play vermintide, i havent yet
18:56 < MillerBOSS> Fine house
18:56 < Hatter> MillerBOSS: I listed to that like an hour ago
18:56 < AnimalFarmPig> After three days of being annoyed at the lack of open wifi at Cisco Live, I just noticed that there's a wifi SSID and password printed on my conference pass
18:56 < MadCamel> Unless you set an AK, which most people don't, it's just a regular ol' drive admiralspark. They lend themselves to misuse, hence my warning
18:56 < Hatter> listened
18:57 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: 1980s? lol https://www.certainteed.com/residential-roofing/what-are-architectural-roofing-shingles/
18:57 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  Architectural Roofing Shingles
18:57 < abakedapplepie> oh damn
18:57 < abakedapplepie> really?
18:57 < abakedapplepie> MillerBOSS: gib key
18:57 < abakedapplepie> :D
18:57 <@JollyRgrs> huh
18:57 <@JollyRgrs> The expected lifespan of an architectural asphalt shingle roof, often called a dimensional shingle roof, is 24 to 30 years in Florida
18:58 <@JollyRgrs> that's impressive for FL
18:58 <@Code_Man65> heh
18:58 <@Code_Man65> In Oklahoma you half the shingle life
18:58 <@Code_Man65> 30's last 15, etc
18:58 < MadCamel> yeah they've been around forever. Don't worry about it though, if your roof looks good it probably is. If you have 3 layers on it already you'll have to do a full tearoff next time it comes due though
18:58 <@JollyRgrs> Code_Man65: same in FL
18:58 < abakedapplepie> afaik theres only 1 layer lol
18:58 <@JollyRgrs> hurricanes, sun, and thunderstorm/hail damage shorten it quite a bit
18:59 < abakedapplepie> reminds me... cleaning the gutters last year i noticed the prior owners had a basketball net installed on the roof of  the garage
18:59 < abakedapplepie> through the shingles
18:59 < abakedapplepie> they didnt patch it
18:59 < vinrock> fuck asphalt shingles ball out yo, copper roof or slate dawg
18:59 <@JollyRgrs> MadCamel: i've never done more than a 2nd layer
18:59 < abakedapplepie> vinrock: that would be VERY out of place in my neighborhood
18:59 < abakedapplepie> lol
18:59 <@JollyRgrs> vinrock: u buy me the slate, i'll put it up
18:59 <@JollyRgrs> slate is good in CA so your roof won't catch on fire
18:59 < vinrock> slate is cool because if you ever have a contractor working up there it's like a 50/50 chance you get to watch him go flying off the roof
19:00 <@JollyRgrs> heh
19:00 <@JollyRgrs> i'm so mad, my pitch is pretty steep, i can't easily walk on it :(
19:01 < MillerBOSS> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=email&A=details&Q=&sku=1409369&is=REG 4 more keys
19:01 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Intel  Play Your Best Bundle PLAY YOUR BEST B&H Photo Video
19:01 < vinrock> thats a boner
19:01 < MillerBOSS> Selling like hot cakes
19:01 < estranger> i hate renting but at least i dont have to climb onto my roof for a bit
19:01 < vinrock> i rent too but i think i gotta soon
19:01 < vinrock> my bathroom vent aint venting
19:01 < vinrock> and im not the kinda person to bug the landlord for simple shit i can fix
19:01 < MillerBOSS> Eighty dollar bundle now for 1 loot box. Today only!
19:02 < estranger> yeah i fix the simple shit myself too.. but ill call the landlord once its anything more than minor
19:03 < vinrock> man im half tempted to redo the countertops and cabinetry if i can get some free material from one of my contractor buddies
19:03 < vinrock> if i can smuggle a big enough slab of slate im definitely gona go for it
19:03 < MadCamel> I always just drop 'em a text let them know I'm about to fix something. That way I have the okay and if it goes horribly wrong it'd at least been approved. Also I won't spend more than $20/mo fixing someone else's house. If it's more than that I want it deducted from my rent.
19:04 < vinrock> i got a chill landlord, i can basically do anything long as it doesnt come out looking too polarizing and not too worried about a repair going wrong
19:05 < vinrock> ofc yeah tho if i gotta dish out more than 20 bucks im gona deduct it from rent
19:06 < vinrock> labor doesnt bug me since even though i dont own the place, it is where i live
19:06 < MadCamel> chill landlord as well.. But I learned a lesson when I installed an undersink water filter and it flooded the whole first floor. If I'd gotten approval he would've split the cost of repairs with me...
19:06 < vinrock> odamn
19:07 < L3gacy> So... today's fiasco continues
19:08 < L3gacy> A liason from Supportive Employment called.  They got me an OFFER
19:08 < L3gacy> On the hto end of a glass house...
19:08 < L3gacy> *hot
19:09 < L3gacy> Cue part about asthma and progressive COPD...
19:10 < vinrock> huh
19:10 < abakedapplepie> do what now
19:11 < grumplestiltzkin> the big money ballers get copper roofing now
19:11 < deepend> why does windows always list COM1 even when device has no physical serial ports?
19:12 < vinrock> when copper was at $4/lb i was working a job on an old home that had some copper flashing that had to be removed
19:12 < vinrock> bossman let me keep it, didnt seem like much at all
19:12 < abakedapplepie> it adds up.
19:12 < vinrock> ended up making $200 off that lil pile of scrap
19:12 < vinrock> woot
19:12 < abakedapplepie> i spent a summer stripping insulation off of 00 gauge wire for scrap
19:12 < nurgle> grumplestiltzkin: only real purists have their roofs made out of gallium
19:13 < abakedapplepie> scrap prices were so good back then
19:13 < abakedapplepie> i made a LOT of money on that
19:13 < abakedapplepie> and i destroyed my hands
19:13 < Heresiarch> deepend: serial ports don't have to be actually connected - and usb-serial cables are not uncommon. Easier to address via existing COMx pseudo-ports than to delete them altogether.
19:13 < nurgle> abakedapplepie: thats why everyone was stealing copper from construction sites and hvac units
19:13 < vinrock> one of my buddies thats a union laborer collects all the scrap wire he finds on his big commercial jobsites and ends up with a good chunk of cash at the end of the month
19:13 < abakedapplepie> i had 2 55 gallon drums full of scrap wire
19:14 < abakedapplepie> lol
19:14 < abakedapplepie> :(
19:14 < vinrock> dayum
19:14 < grumplestiltzkin> it isnt just the price of copper - it has to be handled and installed correclty or it will tarnish.  like human hands cant touch it at all
19:14 < abakedapplepie> i should have built a rig to strip it for me
19:14 < deepend> hmm
19:14 < abakedapplepie> copper tarnish isnt a big deal actually
19:14 < MillerBOSS> I wish I could disable out of office replies. ffs
19:14 < abakedapplepie> its aluminum that has problems with that
19:14 < vinrock> i bet there's a market for scrap copper flashing with nice patina for crafters
19:14 < abakedapplepie> you have to be very specific with aluminum
19:14 < abakedapplepie> and nolox everything
19:15 < grumplestiltzkin> abakedapplepie: well, when used for a roofing material
19:15 < abakedapplepie> ohhhhh
19:15 < abakedapplepie> yeah
19:15 < abakedapplepie> definitely
19:15 < abakedapplepie> unless its varnished somehow
19:15 < vinrock> copper roofs are like the universal sign for, oh, im in rich people terriroty
19:15 < abakedapplepie> you dont see copper roofs around here but you see copper awnings over windows and shit like that
19:15 < corn266> abakedapplepie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw4UV9dzMSY
19:15 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  YouTube → Danny Brown - Scrap Or Die → ⚘ 157,143 ↑ 755 ↓ 37 ✍ 135
19:15 < grumplestiltzkin> yeah, on a bigass lake house, where the shed and dock /boat slip cover all match (with the copper roof)
19:16 < abakedapplepie> <3 danny brown
19:16 < vinrock> we have these little pockets of super baller old homes that'll have it
19:17 < vinrock> with the nice stone masonry and ironwork
19:17 < Hunterkll> ugh
19:17 < nurgle> whoever decides 0630 meetings are a good thing
19:17 < nurgle> should die
19:17 < Hunterkll> we seriously need an AWS DP
19:17 < vinrock> dp
19:17 < vinrock> giggity
19:17 < abakedapplepie> yeah, you go to grosse pointe here, its all 100-150 year old mansions
19:17 < Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, I could send a snail to VA with the package on it faster than this AWS link is moving it
19:17 < abakedapplepie> ivy covered brick walls, copper roofs, servants quarters, etc
19:17 < abakedapplepie> you know you made it when your house has servants quarters
19:17 < vinrock> yeah thats the kinda homes im talkin about
19:18 < vinrock> i did work in one dope ass old house like that and the wooden floors were fucking amazeballs
19:18 < abakedapplepie> a buddy of mine does artisan plasterwork
19:18 < abakedapplepie> gets paid big bucks to restore those old houses
19:18 < vinrock> huge ass planks and they were interlocked with what apeared to have been hand made little hourglass pieces and everything fit like legos, it was perfect
19:18 < vinrock> damn nice
19:19 < abakedapplepie> craftsmanship aint what it used to be
19:19 < vinrock> yeah
19:19 < abakedapplepie> he was telling me theyre pretty much the only game in town for the high end work
19:19 < abakedapplepie> and its all word of mouth
19:19 < abakedapplepie> no one does fine artisan work like that anymore
19:20 <+giant_it_burrit> i need to find a side gig
19:21 < abakedapplepie> wat theyre doing the last of us 2
19:21 <+giant_it_burrit> yea
19:21 < vinrock> i kept doing masonry and concrete when i started here
19:21 < abakedapplepie> stop making sequels D:
19:21 < abakedapplepie> that game was perfect
19:21 <+giant_it_burrit> i need a side gig or something that makes me special
19:21 < vinrock> buddy that i worked for is retiring tho so no more work :(
19:21 < abakedapplepie> i officially started my side gig this week
19:21 < vinrock> now i gotta find another side gig
19:21 < abakedapplepie> someone is renting a bar and some decorations for their wedding
19:21 <+giant_it_burrit> abakedapplepie: doing what
19:21 < abakedapplepie> $500 woo
19:21 < abakedapplepie> got another wedding in a month
19:21 <+giant_it_burrit> doing
19:22 < abakedapplepie> renting shit for weddings
19:22 <+giant_it_burrit> what do you do tho
19:22 < abakedapplepie> i dont do anything
19:22 < vinrock> tent rental could be good money depending where you're at
19:22 < abakedapplepie> they come to my house, pick up my 14' bar, and give me money
19:22 <+giant_it_burrit> what
19:22 < vinrock> i know a few hugs making a nice chunk doing that on the side
19:22 < vinrock> wtf
19:22 < vinrock> guys
19:22 < abakedapplepie> i built a bar for my wedding last year with a 3 tap stainless draft system
19:22 < Nightcinder> hugs
19:22 < abakedapplepie> and now im renting it out to other weddings
19:22 < vinrock> yeah fingers went retarded for a sec
19:22 < vinrock> noice
19:23 < Nightcinder> i am restless af
19:23 < vinrock> thats a pretty good idea
19:23 < abakedapplepie> but i also have light fixtures and centerpieces from our wedding that i am renting out
19:23 < abakedapplepie> $10-$20 a unit
19:23 < genr8_> building stuff is always a good idea
19:23 < Nightcinder> i'm bored at work, don't want to work on this laptop
19:23 < vinrock> go drop a deuce
19:23 < vinrock> get paid2poop
19:23 < Nightcinder> already did
19:24 < Nightcinder> just having a weird week
19:24 < genr8_> they should start making the bathrooms faraday cages so people cant use their phone in it for 15 minutes a time
19:24 < Nightcinder> not sleeping well
19:29 < L3gacy> abakedapplepie: Recruiter/Liason for Supportive Employment (For disabled peeps) said he got me an OFFER, LIFTING, on the hot end of Durand Glass
19:29 < L3gacy> I was like, wtf?  I have asthma and PROGRESSIVE COPD
19:29 < L3gacy> He flat out said I SHOULD take it, as a job is better than none
19:29 < L3gacy> Like... you want me ded?
19:31 < genr8_> i wish someone was trying to find a job to put me in :/
19:32 < asimon> Just gave presentation at work about why their passwords are probably bad and explained the benefits of password managers
19:33 < asimon> But they were fixated on the potential security problems of the manager software - I don't think I did a good job at expressing the relative magnitudes of password reuse vs if someone could break your encryption
19:34 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, whenever i try to connect to the firewall with the serial cable, it just freezes in putty and doesn't do anything
19:34 < dragonfleas> should i boot into rommon?
19:34 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, powercycle it and see if anything displays
19:34 < Hunterkll> your settings may be wrong?
19:34 < dragonfleas> COM3 9600 right?
19:35 < dragonfleas> my serial port is assigned to COM3
19:35 < dragonfleas> well USB-SERIAL
19:35 < Hunterkll> sounds about right
19:35 < Hunterkll> reset the device and see if you see anything
19:35 < genr8_> hit Ctrl+Z
19:35 < Hunterkll> genr8_, if the ASA OS is crashed
19:35 < Hunterkll> that won't help
19:36 < genr8_> well then how's he going to get interactive access then out of it?
19:36 < dragonfleas> ahhh it's in a boot loop
19:36 < dragonfleas> it freezes on loading the OS
19:36 < Hunterkll> genr8_, well ctrl+z won't help a fuckin' crasheed device respond
19:36 < Hunterkll> lol
19:36 < genr8_> theres usually some hotkey you can press at startup though
19:36 < dragonfleas> yeah i'll do the hotkey and boot into rommon
19:36 < Hunterkll> he had not reset it yet
19:37 < genr8_> to go into a flash from console mode
19:37 < Hunterkll> and he didn't even know if his serial cable was working
19:37 < Hunterkll> right
19:37 < genr8_> k
19:37 < Hunterkll> genr8_, let's validate that it's even working at all first
19:37 < dragonfleas> it's not
19:37 < Hunterkll> before we start giving out subsequent instructions :P
19:37 < dragonfleas> it's frozen on the boot
19:37 < genr8_> im jumping the gun i see
19:37 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, i'm talkin gabout the console cable
19:37 < Hunterkll> lol
19:37 < dragonfleas> Use BREAK or ESC to interrupt boot.
19:37 < dragonfleas> Use SPACE to begin boot immediately.
19:37 < dragonfleas> Launching BootLoader...
19:37 < dragonfleas> Boot configuration file contains 1 entry.
19:37 < dragonfleas> Loading disk0:/asa846-k8.bin...
19:37 < Hunterkll> we haven't even gotten to the device yet lmao
19:37 < dragonfleas> it's stuck on that
19:37 < Hunterkll> k so use escape
19:37 < Hunterkll> get in rommon
19:37 < Hunterkll> type 'dev' to list and find the flash ids
19:39 < dragonfleas> it brought up interface device information
19:39 < dragonfleas> when i used dev
19:39 < Hunterkll> what did it list?
19:40 < dragonfleas> all of the ehternet inf's
19:40 < genr8_> theres usually gonna be a device specific flashing process. where the ID's and filenames are already worked out and given to you
19:40 < Hunterkll> ?!?
19:40 < Hunterkll> genr8_, no, it's generic cisco process
19:40 < dragonfleas> rommon #0> dev
19:40 < dragonfleas> Interface Device Information:
19:40 < dragonfleas>   Ethernet0/0: Y88ACS06, PCI: bus-0, slot-12, fct-0, rev-16, irq-11
19:40 < dragonfleas>   Ethernet0/1: Y88ACS06, PCI: bus-0, slot-12, fct-0, rev-16, irq-11
19:40 < dragonfleas>   Ethernet0/2: Y88ACS06, PCI: bus-0, slot-12, fct-0, rev-16, irq-11
19:40 < dragonfleas>   Ethernet0/3: Y88ACS06, PCI: bus-0, slot-12, fct-0, rev-16, irq-11
19:40 < dragonfleas>   Ethernet0/4: Y88ACS06, PCI: bus-0, slot-12, fct-0, rev-16, irq-11
19:40 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, try dir flash0:
19:40 < dragonfleas>   Ethernet0/5: Y88ACS06, PCI: bus-0, slot-12, fct-0, rev-16, irq-11
19:40 < dragonfleas>   Ethernet0/6: Y88ACS06, PCI: bus-0, slot-12, fct-0, rev-16, irq-11
19:40 < dragonfleas>   Ethernet0/7: Y88ACS06, PCI: bus-0, slot-12, fct-0, rev-16, irq-11
19:40 < dragonfleas> invalid command
19:41 < Hunterkll> i hope you didn't put 'try' in front of it
19:41 < dragonfleas> nope
19:41 < dragonfleas> just dir flash0:
19:41 < Hunterkll> you never know
19:41 < Hunterkll> lol
19:41 < dragonfleas> rommon #2> dir flash0:
19:41 < dragonfleas> Invalid or incorrect command.  Use 'help' for help.
19:41 < alazare619> so apparently android devices are now doing "Dynamic" mac address
19:41 < alazare619> WTF
19:41 < alazare619> mac address changes on every reboot
19:41 < alazare619> like WTF is this shit
19:41 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, dir disk0:
19:41 <@ravioli> dragonfleas: please use pastebin next time
19:41 < dragonfleas> should i do "boot" and boot into the 8.2(5) image?
19:42 < dragonfleas> sorry ravioli i'll use pastebin
19:42 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, if you know the filename
19:42 < dragonfleas> my whole site is down
19:42 < dragonfleas> i do Hunterkll
19:42 < Hunterkll> you also need to know WHERE it is
19:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> vpn?
19:42 < Hunterkll> what disk/flash ID
19:42 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, how do i list directories in rommon?
19:42 < Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, the idiot cowboy'd a major revision firewall firmware upgrade remotely
19:42 < Hunterkll> while not on irc
19:42 < Hunterkll> :P
19:42 < dragonfleas> YOU TOLD ME IT WOULD WORK
19:42 < dragonfleas> and it got stuck in boot loop
19:42 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
19:43 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, I ASSUMED YOU WERE AT THE SITE LIKE A SANE PERSON
19:43 < genr8_> ouch
19:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> OH was this when said he has a pervious config he wanted to see if it would work on an upgraded machine?
19:43 < dragonfleas> so what am i doing now
19:43 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, do you not recall my repeated comments about having a console cable handy? :P
19:43 < grumplestiltzkin> middle of business hours upgrade?   hwat in the hworld
19:43 < Hunterkll> hold on lol
19:43 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol poor dragonfleas
19:43 < genr8_> "try removing the power source for a minute or two.  "
19:43 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, no i did it after hours last night and it crashed
19:43 < Hunterkll> dragonfleas, do 'help' to show available commands
19:44 < genr8_> ASA upgrade problems
19:44 < genr8_> So I took one of the boot loop asa's, deleted the 8.4.6 version that was installed on it and manually pushed the same 8.4.6 code via scp (downloaded tonight from cisco). Rebooted and sure enough it worked. So I figured the code upload was corrupt. So I checked one of the others that was boot looping with the verify /md5 command. Interestingly enough the md5 matches even though the code will not boot.
19:44 < dragonfleas> i typed boot ?
19:44 < dragonfleas> and now it's failsafe booting
19:44 < Hunterkll> that's .... without config
19:44 < Hunterkll> do NOT WRITE MEM
19:44 < dragonfleas> ok i won't
19:44 < Hunterkll> DO NOT ALLOW IT TO SAVE CONFIG
19:44 <+Hunterkll> it may try and do initial config and save for you
19:44 < dragonfleas> at least without config i can get into asdm
19:44 <+Hunterkll> how? you have no configuration
19:44 <+Hunterkll> lol
19:45 <+Hunterkll> it'll be on a 192 address on a single port maybe
19:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> dragonfleas: do you havea backup?
19:45 < dragonfleas> i can configure http on a certain ip address and then just plug it in and restore my entire configuration?
19:45 < McDonaldsWiFi> might have to send some boots on the ground to flash the old config
19:45 < genr8_> shouldnt the old boot .bin file still be on the drive ?
19:45 <+Hunterkll> holy fuck
19:45 <+Hunterkll> people
19:45 <+Hunterkll> slow the f down
19:45 < dragonfleas> McDonaldsWiFi, right before i upgraded i did a full configuration backup
19:45 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, what is it doing right now
19:45 < alazare619> anyone in here running zentyal
19:45 < admiralspark> Why aren't you using config revision"?
19:45 < dragonfleas> WTF
19:45 < dragonfleas> MY CONFIG IS BACK?
19:45 <+Hunterkll> jesus christ people
19:45 < dragonfleas> EVERYTHING IS WORKING!?!?!??!!?
19:45 < alazare619> i've been thinking about reversing the ISO into ubuntu/debian livebuild
19:45 < dragonfleas> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19:45 <+Hunterkll> EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP
19:46 < dragonfleas> now i need to change the boot image back?
19:46 < grumplestiltzkin> !!!!
19:46 < ebol4> scrawwwww
19:46 < alazare619> and turning it into a docker container
19:46 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, what version are you booted into
19:46 < alazare619> Hunterkll: you know whats what mute is for
19:46 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, wanna move this into PM's?
19:46 <+Hunterkll> no
19:46 < genr8_> can't you just find the name of the old boot image filename and boot it ? try the command: "show run | in boot"
19:46 < dragonfleas> ok
19:46 < dragonfleas> i'm on 8.2(5)
19:46 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: take it to pm if you don't like an open room being open :P
19:46 <+Hunterkll> genr8_, yes - ish
19:46 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, delete the new image
19:46 < genr8_> k you deal with him
19:46 <+Hunterkll> just delete it
19:46 < dragonfleas> and my old config is there
19:46 < dragonfleas> ok
19:46 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, and delete the 9.x image too
19:46 < alazare619> Hunterkll is snowflake(1)
19:46 < admiralspark> truth
19:46 < dragonfleas> so get into asdm and delete the 8.4(6)
19:47 < genr8_> so get into bdsm*
19:47 <+Hunterkll> alazare619, i'm the one with the most relevant cisco experience here to help him and the same exact device sitting in front of me :P
19:47 < McDonaldsWiFi> genr8_: lol
19:47 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, well, you can do it from the console
19:47 < grumplestiltzkin> Hunterkll: wat
19:47 <+Hunterkll> don't need ASDM
19:47 < alazare619> Hunterkll:  you going to any cons this month
19:47 < poquito> sudo apt install bdsm
19:47 <+Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin, i literally have the same device in front of me and am playing along at home
19:47 < alazare619> i think denvers comic con is coming up
19:47 <+Hunterkll> anyway
19:47 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/5yvyu1/tips_and_tricks_youve_adopted_for_living_in_the/detgmdr/
19:47 <+layer-eight> * admiralspark →  Tips and tricks you've adopted for living in the command line? : networking
19:47 < grumplestiltzkin> I missed the beginning, is it a 5510?
19:47 <+Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin, 5505
19:48 < genr8_> for future reference: "Also good to know when your updating an ASA that is a few states away. Keep the old image on the device and upload the new image. You can configure the new image is the primary boot image and the old image as the secondary. If the upgrade fails the ASA will boot back to the old image. "
19:48 < admiralspark> lol
19:48 < dragonfleas> ok
19:48 <@ravioli> kek
19:48 < admiralspark> the out of support 5505?
19:48 < dragonfleas> so i'm in ASDM
19:48 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, just had a firmware version released this month ...
19:48 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, gah stop being so reliant on ASDM. whatever. delete every boot image that isn't 8.2(5)
19:48 <+Hunterkll> then set the boot image
19:48 <+Hunterkll> then reload to ensure it works
19:48 <+Hunterkll> then load 8.4(5)
19:48 < dragonfleas> ok
19:49 < genr8_> just remember the syntax of all those command lines and you're good to go
19:49 < admiralspark> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/security/asa-5505-adaptive-security-appliance/eos-eol-notice-c51-738642.html Hunterkll it's a dead platform. The asic's broke entirely on 9.1 when Cisco switched the bridged switch mode
19:49 <+layer-eight> * admiralspark →  End-of-Sale and End-of-Life Announcement for the Cisco ASA 5505 Adaptive Security Appliance - Cisco
19:49 < admiralspark> holy shit
19:49 < admiralspark> he's doing an 8.2>8.4 upgrade?
19:49 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, yes, yes, now chill
19:49 <+Hunterkll> lol
19:49 < admiralspark> does he know about the nat changes?
19:49 < admiralspark> lol
19:49 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, that's why you need to do this intermediate
19:50 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, the first time around he shot straight to 9.1
19:50 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: :O holy shit, bad day in firewall land
19:50 <+Hunterkll> which is ... inaadvisable
19:50 <+Hunterkll> but it was half working
19:50 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, turns out 8.4(6) has a bug
19:50 < genr8_> the replacement model Cisco ASA5506X  is going for $500ish on ebay
19:50 <+Hunterkll> :P
19:50 <+Hunterkll> genr8_, and you'd be an idiot to buy it that way when it with a year of smartnet is less than $1k from like CDW or Insight
19:50 < admiralspark> former employer, we had two 5545's that were stuck on 8.2 because they figured it would take months to convert everything to work 8.4/9/x
19:51 < admiralspark> genr8_: they're cheaper even off amazin
19:51 < genr8_> i never said i wasnt an idiot
19:51 < admiralspark> Amazon*
19:51 <+Hunterkll> lol
19:51 <+Hunterkll> also
19:51 <+Hunterkll> no keygens exist for those yet :'(
19:51 < admiralspark> So real LPT: don'
19:51 < admiralspark> t buy cisco firewalls
19:51 < admiralspark> buy hardware you own, not lease
19:51 <+Hunterkll> oh the base stuff works great
19:51 < genr8_> why is this thing advertising Triple DES in its product page
19:51 <+Hunterkll> what?
19:51 <+Hunterkll> you don't lease -X stuff
19:51 <+Hunterkll> they still have perpetual anyconnect licenses too
19:52 < admiralspark> if you want SEC you do
19:52 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, but the 5505 is 'dead' as in 2022. and the 5505 is the only one of the line that'll run 9.2 :P
19:52 < admiralspark> our rep told us perpetual anyconnect was only available for the 3.x and older?
19:52 <+Hunterkll> his other two boxes are 5510s i think
19:52 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, nope, had it for 4.x
19:52 < admiralspark> oh
19:52 < admiralspark> hmmmmm
19:52 < admiralspark> bad rep maybe
19:52 < admiralspark> not my problem anymore :)
19:52 < genr8_> These things have the option of using TripleDES or AES.... why is 3DES still in use at all ?
19:52 < dragonfleas_> genr8_, we can get 5506-x's for 100 through techsoup, but my boss is a fucking cheapskate
19:52 < admiralspark> genr8_: backwards compatibility
19:53 < genr8_> that needs to die
19:53 < Heresiarch> genr8_: not all of Cisco's x86 gear has aes-ni.
19:53 < Heresiarch> and 3des is still pretty fast.
19:53 < genr8_> shit ok
19:53 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, VPN Only, or AnyConnect Plus, can come in perpetual. It's the Apex that can only be sub'd
19:53 < genr8_> slowdown issue i see
19:53 < admiralspark> genr8_: when it costs millions to replace the equipment, and it's cheaper to buy cisco's that still work with it, you know what a business is gonna do
19:53 < dragonfleas> ok
19:53 < dragonfleas> so
19:53 < genr8_> just sayin we figured out how to accelerate AES a long time ago
19:53 < dragonfleas> everything is working
19:53 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, thank u bby
19:53 < admiralspark> Hunterkll: cool, good to know. I'm a Fortinet shop now :P
19:53 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, define 'everything'
19:54 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, if i wanted slow hardware i'd ask you ;)
19:54 < genr8_> figured a new product would only have the new one. cisco is very backward compatible tho
19:54 < dragonfleas> config has been reverted, it booted into 8.2(5)
19:54 < admiralspark> hahahahaha
19:54 < dragonfleas> startup config is correct
19:54 <+Hunterkll> alright
19:54 < dragonfleas> now i'm going to upgrade to 8.4(5) during business hours right?
19:54 <+Hunterkll> write mem & throw 8.4(5) at it
19:54 <+Hunterkll> since you're sitting in front of it with a console cable
19:54 <+Hunterkll> fuck yea
19:54 < admiralspark> .....and convert your nat rules
19:54 < dragonfleas> um no
19:54 < dragonfleas> idk how to convert the nat rules
19:54 < dragonfleas> how do
19:54 < dragonfleas> cisco documentation on how?
19:55 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: is this in production right now?
19:55 < dragonfleas> yes grumplestiltzkin
19:55 <+Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin, well it was down until just now
19:55 <+Hunterkll> so
19:55 < dragonfleas> and my whole sites been down
19:55 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: https://supportforums.cisco.com/t5/firewalling/asa-8-2-to-8-4-upgrade-nat-question/td-p/1862885
19:55 < dragonfleas> but it's back up now
19:55 <+layer-eight> * admiralspark →  Solved:  ASA 8.2 to 8.4 upgrade NAT question - Cisco Support Community
19:55 < dragonfleas> so my coworkers are happy
19:55 < admiralspark> dragonfleas: top link in that thread
19:55 < grumplestiltzkin> so now it's up.  you might want to wait until afterhours to continue
19:55 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, once you do the 8.4 nat rules thing, and upgrade, you can then do 9.1 safely remotely
19:55 < dragonfleas> ok
19:55 <+Hunterkll> since we already have a known-good booting 9.1 image for your hardware
19:56 < dragonfleas> is there any more config changes i'll need to make for 9.1?
19:56 <+Hunterkll> nope
19:56 < admiralspark> wait
19:56 <+Hunterkll> that's why 8.4 is an interim step required
19:56 < dragonfleas> ok
19:56 < admiralspark> didn't 9.0>9.1 screw up something?
19:56 < dragonfleas> so upgrade to 9.4(5) and then to 9.1?
19:56 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, yes, if you were on like, 9.0(1) or something
19:56 < dragonfleas> sorry 8.4*
19:56 <+Hunterkll> yea
19:56 < dragonfleas> kk
19:56 < admiralspark> oh maybe that was it Hunterkll
19:56 < dragonfleas> i'm doing it after hours today
19:56 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, some early 9.0 or 9.1 versions have that step
19:56 < dragonfleas> i'll be on IRC
19:56 <+Hunterkll> lol
19:57 < admiralspark> might've specifically been the 5506 9.0>9.1 where they changed the routed ports to act like the 5505's switch bridge
19:57 < genr8_> sounds right
19:57 <+Hunterkll> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/security/asa/upgrade/asa-upgrade/planning.html#id_59003
19:57 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Cisco ASA Upgrade Guide - Planning Your Upgrade [Cisco ASA 5500-X Series Firewalls] - Cisco
19:58 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, 9.0(1) needed 9.0(2) thru 9.0(4) before going to ANY newer version
19:58 <+Hunterkll> same with 9.1(1) needing 9.1(2) before going to ANY version
19:59 < genr8_> !nominate Hunterkll helped dragonfleas unbrick his Cisco ASA upgrade
19:59 < genr8_> - how.
19:59 <+Hunterkll> genr8_, he also bricked it using half of the information i gave him
19:59 <+Hunterkll> :P
20:00 < alazare619> i'm having a nerdgasm the OG green and pink ranger and david teenant are at denver comic con this year
20:00 < genr8_> well you coulda logged off which would be a real dick move :p
20:00 < alazare619> omg...i need to go...(fast forward to monday) a fan was arrested at denver comic con after "fapping" on amy jo johnson
20:00 <+Hunterkll> O.o
20:01 <+Hunterkll> I just did AnimeNEXT last weekend
20:01 < alazare619> amy jo johnson is bae
20:01 <+Hunterkll> i'm going to laughlin NV in two weeks
20:01 <+Hunterkll> and then Anime Expo in LA july 4th
20:04 < genr8_> this factory tour of JLCPCB was dope af https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljOoGyCso8s
20:04 <+layer-eight> * genr8_ →  YouTube → Inside a Huge PCB Factory - in China → ⚘ 164,306 ↑ 13,584 ↓ 147 ✍ 2,238
20:08 < nurgle> A child in Elmore County, Idaho, is recovering from plague in the first human case of the bacterial disease in Idaho since 1992
20:08 < nurgle> WHICH PLAGUE MOTHERFUCKER
20:09 < nurgle> it better be my plague
20:09 < Heresiarch> aren't all plagues your plague? Or is that Nurgle?
20:09 < nurgle> pooping buboes all over idaho
20:09 < alazare619> if i have a full copy of a OS and i want to turn it into docker how would i go about that
20:09 < nurgle> Heresiarch: same same
20:09 < alazare619> would the entrypoint be /bin/systemd?
20:10 < nurgle> Heresiarch: also im glad that someone respeks my name
20:17 < khelpw> Khorne>Nurgle fite me
20:17 < khelpw> Also 40k too srs now
20:18 < felda> lmao can someone shoot me
20:18 < felda> but like not in the head just like shoot a toe off or something
20:18  * DomLS3 shoots felda
20:18  * DomLS3 shoots pfsense after felda
20:18 < felda> "Hey felda I picked up that switch for the break room you asked me to get while we were at Best Buy"
20:18 < felda> Turns out he got a 10/100 Hub
20:18 < felda> "I got it so cheap only $15"
20:18 < Nightcinder> they still sell those?
20:18 < ebol4> do... do they sell those
20:18 < ned0> what would you guys include for a desired salary range for an MSP technician position? pretty much entry-level
20:19 < felda> "It was on sale in the bargain section of networking"
20:19 < ned0> 1/2 day at customer offices providing support and 1/2 day helpdesk overflow
20:19 < felda> BOY
20:19 < Nightcinder> ned0: wow that sounds awful
20:19 < ned0> lol
20:19 < felda> Our nearest Best Buy is like a worse Walmart
20:19 < felda> they just keep stuff until they sell it and never get rid of stuff
20:19 < ned0> i have no clue what a reasonable ask might be
20:19 < felda> it's 100% trash
20:20 < ned0> and I don't want them to just bin my resume for putting a terrible salary figure
20:20 < Heresiarch> ned0: look up salaries for the area you're in, go for the avg.
20:21 <+TuxedoJack> ned0: depends on the market
20:21 <+TuxedoJack> For ATX, I'd pay $30 - 40K based on skillset and history
20:21 <+TuxedoJack> But that also includes a company car for on-site shit
20:22 <+TuxedoJack> And a company card for gas / parts
20:22 < ned0> does anyone use robert half?
20:22 < ned0> the robert half helpdesk II range is $44,650 - $74,906
20:22 < ned0> lol
20:22 < genr8_> yes. they got corporatized and now suck
20:22 < genr8_> i mean if you're like pro level good, they dont suck
20:23 < genr8_> theyre one of the big recruitment houses now tho
20:23 < DomLS3> stay away from robert half
20:23 < DomLS3> such a garbage company
20:23 < abakedapplepie> fuck dynamics
20:23 < abakedapplepie> ugh
20:23 < abakedapplepie> ugh ugh ugh
20:23 < DomLS3> abakedapplepie: what the problem is?
20:24 < abakedapplepie> idunno its slow as shit/possibly not working
20:24 <+Hunterkll> robert half is great
20:24 <+Hunterkll> if you like BDSM
20:24 < abakedapplepie> i just installed the 2016->365 update
20:24 < abakedapplepie> because they removed email engagement from 2016
20:24 < genr8_> LOL as you say that i check my email and i have an offer from Robert Half
20:24 < ned0> just looking at their salary guide
20:24 < ned0> to benchmark
20:24 < ned0> but desktop support analyst avg is $70k, helpdesk I avg is $45k, helpdesk II avg is $53k
20:25 < abakedapplepie> lol
20:25 < abakedapplepie> im a sysadmin below all those numbers
20:25 < abakedapplepie> D:
20:25 < genr8_> well the offer i got doesnt sound half bad and i'm gonna reply. theres no dollar amounts listed
20:25 < ned0> sysadmin avg is $94k
20:25 < genr8_> Title:                   Config Technician I
20:25 < abakedapplepie> i dont know what my title is
20:26 < abakedapplepie> i work for an msp and i do *everything*
20:26 < abakedapplepie> :|
20:26 < nurgle> abakedapplepie: head frito
20:26 < abakedapplepie> i like it
20:26 < nurgle> put it on ur card
20:26 < abakedapplepie> no i dont i hate fritos
20:26 < nurgle> abakedapplepie: chief pringle theng
20:26 < nurgle> then
20:26 < abakedapplepie> why am i junk food
20:27 < nurgle> fine
20:27 < nurgle> top avocado toast
20:27 < nurgle> is that better
20:27 < nurgle> you yuppie fuck
20:27 < abakedapplepie> why am i food
20:27 < abakedapplepie> D:
20:27  * ravioli 
20:27 < nurgle> scum gobbler
20:27 < ned0> "computer user support specialist" in the BLS data for my state is $60k avg
20:27 < nurgle> scrum*
20:27 < ned0> these all feel high enough to get my application binned
20:27 < nurgle> ned0: why are you putting a salary on your resume/
20:27 < nurgle> that seems odd
20:28 < ned0> they ask for a desired salary range
20:28 < ned0> in the application
20:28 < nurgle> doesnt every listing se DOE
20:28 < nurgle> say*
20:28 < nurgle> oh.
20:28 < ned0> nope
20:28 < nurgle> what do you make now
20:28 < grumplestiltzkin> "Senior Avacado Toast Architect"
20:28 < ned0> and some of them say "do not say negotiable"
20:28 < nurgle> grumplestiltzkin: also known as "cant afford a house"
20:28 < abakedapplepie> well yeah man avocados aint cheap
20:28 < nurgle> ned0: see previous.
20:29 < nurgle> abakedapplepie: expensive enough to cause a drought
20:29 < ned0> i made more than i'll make in this role
20:29 < nurgle> or was that almonds
20:29 < abakedapplepie>  ned0: check glassdoor for local analogues, take your salary, add 10-20%, compare to analogues, adjust as desired
20:29 < ned0> because my previous job was part IT and part consulting
20:29 < abakedapplepie> that was almonds and that was a climate thing iirc
20:29 < ned0> and i'm stepping down to go full IT
20:29 < genr8_> it will be based on your last job then.
20:29 < nurgle> abakedapplepie: ++ if ur comfortable with your current pay put that +10%
20:29 < genr8_> yeah do that
20:30 < nurgle> if you want more
20:30 < ned0> poop dood
20:30 < nurgle> just put how much you want
20:30 < abakedapplepie> but if the job is different from what you have now you dont need to go off your salary
20:30 < genr8_> i would lowball in the automatic app tbh
20:30 < nurgle> you will only get how ever much you value yourself.
20:30 < abakedapplepie> thats why i said check local similar jobs
20:30 < abakedapplepie> to see what people are getting paid in your area for the same job
20:31 < nurgle> abakedapplepie: when i put my review in for glassdor i put $999% dallers
20:31 < abakedapplepie> oh sure ruin it for the rest of us
20:31 < nurgle> abakedapplepie: job security
20:31 < x21L> hi guys :D
20:31 < nurgle> if everyone thinks the pay is shit here that means they cant hire people to fire me
20:31 < abakedapplepie> hi x21L
20:32 < nurgle> ha
20:32 < nurgle> i guess he had enough
20:32 < nurgle> wtg abakedapplepie
20:32 < abakedapplepie> :(
20:33 < nurgle> i bet dolalrs to donuts he has an exchange question
20:33 < nurgle> and you can take me to the mattresses on that one
20:33 < Hatter> lol I'm in a meeting and using irc
20:33 <+Hunterkll> .... woah
20:33 < Hatter> anyone have a funny joke
20:33 <@ravioli> Hatter: get back to work
20:34 < ned0> lol this application "bonus points if you know the problem with UDP jokes"
20:34 <+Hunterkll> admiralspark, genr8_ the keygen apparently works on the 5506
20:34 <+Hunterkll> might have to buy a used one now......
20:34 < nurgle> can someone kick hatter to make sure he gets back to work
20:34 < nurgle> cryptic1:
20:34 < Hatter> who is this nurgle guy all of the sudden
20:34 <@ravioli> nurgle: get back to work
20:34 < DomLS3> ravioli: why you copycattin' cryptic1 though
20:34 < nurgle> ravioli: im currently reading
20:54 <@JollyRgrs> DomLS3: get back to work
20:54 <@JollyRgrs> also, cryptic1 doesn't do it like that, he uses a comma instead of a colon
20:54 < nurgle> 2 more days
20:54 < Kobe``> JollyRgrs,  you hit champ yet
20:54 < nurgle> then me ass is in key west
20:55 < nurgle> Kobe``: he still silver trash
20:55 < nurgle> sorry
20:55 < nurgle> prostpect
20:55 <@cryptic1> what whut?
20:56 <+NinjaStyle> wat
20:57 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i just upgraded to 8.4(5) and it crashed my firewall again but now i can't console into it
20:57 < dragonfleas> whole site is down again
20:57 <+Hunterkll> did you watch it booting?
20:57 < dragonfleas> yeah and it's a bunch of gibberish
20:58 <+Hunterkll> what do you mean
20:58 <@JollyRgrs> Kobe``: no, but i'm D2 div 3 so far
20:58 < dragonfleas> it's literally a bunch of random characters that are spamming the screen
20:58 <@JollyRgrs> Kobe``: you got your pineapple yet?
20:58 < Kobe``> naw was dat
20:58 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, firmware hashes correct?
20:58 <@JollyRgrs> new summer event started 2 nights ago
20:58 < dragonfleas> yes
20:58 <+NinjaStyle> damn my desk is all covered in pickle juice
20:58 <@JollyRgrs> ewwwwww
20:58 <+NinjaStyle> like dragonfleas's mom's back
20:58 <+Hunterkll> odd as fuck
20:59 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, well something is obviously wrong with how the firmware's there or the firmware itself
20:59 <@JollyRgrs> nurgle: dang... prospect... haven't heard that one in a while
20:59 <@JollyRgrs> i put on my challenger wheels from season 3 the other day
20:59 < nurgle> you dont see it everytime you go to queue?
20:59 < nurgle> must be a glitch
21:00 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, http://sfree.ws/model?main_group_id=1&child_group_id=174&model_id=1509&release_id=25871
21:00 <+Hunterkll> using that one?
21:00 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  sfree.ws
21:00 < dragonfleas> http://sfree.ws/model?main_group_id=1&child_group_id=174&model_id=1509&release_id=25871
21:00 <+layer-eight> * dragonfleas →  Hunterkll → sfree.ws
21:00 < dragonfleas> yeah
21:01 < dragonfleas> hold on there's a fire outside
21:01 <@JollyRgrs> nurgle: when's the last time you played dawg?
21:01 < dragonfleas> ash tray is on fire
21:01 < abakedapplepie> i have no idea how to use dynamics
21:01 <+Hunterkll> looool
21:01 <@JollyRgrs> it's potato/bronze for lowest level now
21:01 < insecurity> hohohhh
21:01 < abakedapplepie> how do i send a fucking email to a contact
21:01 < abakedapplepie> >:/
21:01 < genr8_> hey guys it looks like Arrow has a deal for a Free Raspberry Pi 3B+ with $50 purchase https://www.arrow.com/en/terms-and-conditions/free-raspberry-pi-3
21:01 <+NinjaStyle> insecurity: hi
21:01 < insecurity> oh
21:01 < insecurity> hi
21:02 <+NinjaStyle> sup
21:02 < insecurity> ever try doing anything over meterp/rev_https when the client is connected via VPN
21:02 < insecurity> because fuck that
21:02 <+NinjaStyle> client connected via vpn ?
21:02 <+NinjaStyle> how
21:03 < insecurity> they're at home working, connected via vpn to work, and ran my .hta
21:03 < insecurity> and i'm trying to scan and pw spray through that
21:03 <+NinjaStyle> oh yeah
21:03 <+NinjaStyle> try with rev
21:03 <+NinjaStyle> -tcp
21:03 < insecurity> i did but it's still shit
21:03 <+NinjaStyle> rev_tcp*
21:03 < McDonaldsWiFi> dragonfleas: your shit fixed? I was on lunch
21:04 < MillerBOSS> https://msdnshared.blob.core.windows.net/media/2018/06/Microsoft-Security-Servicing-Commitments_SRD.pdf
21:04 <+NinjaStyle> i would just do port 445 scan and try to find some easy win to get a better client than the home user
21:04 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 254,115 bytes
21:04 < dragonfleas> yeah it's fixed, there's a homeless man shitting outside right now and we're trying to get rid of him
21:04 < MillerBOSS> Microsoft Security Servicing Commitments
21:04 <+NinjaStyle> insecurity: have you been able to dump local admin hash?
21:05 < insecurity> sometimes you gotta take when you can get
21:05 < insecurity> and this is what i have
21:05 < insecurity> yes, user is local admin
21:05 < ekaj> `bofh
21:05 <+layer-eight> BOFH Loop found in loop in redundant loopback
21:05 < abakedapplepie> ok what the hell
21:05 < nurgle> later nerds
21:05 < insecurity> hashes work no where or i don't know because scans don't finish
21:05 < abakedapplepie> is anyone intimately familiar with dynamics here
21:05 < abakedapplepie> im starting to get annoyed
21:05 < abakedapplepie> this feature isnt here
21:05 <+NinjaStyle> insecurity: maybe u can pop another reverse shell from another machine by doing a psexec with that hash?
21:05 <+NinjaStyle> :(
21:05 < ekaj> music dynamics?
21:05 <+NinjaStyle> damn
21:05 < abakedapplepie> microsoft dynamics.
21:06 < ekaj> never heard of it
21:06 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:06 < insecurity> can't
21:06 < insecurity> NinjaStyle:
21:06 < insecurity> hashes don't work anywhere else
21:06 <+NinjaStyle> do you have the user's plaintext?
21:07 <+NinjaStyle> maybe u can just vpn in yourself with their creds
21:08 <+Hunterkll> hahahah wow
21:08 <+Hunterkll> cisco let me retreive the license activation key for this firewall
21:08 <+Hunterkll> thank god
21:08 <+Hunterkll> i had a keygen'd key in there and almost sent that in the show version to TAC
21:09 <+Hunterkll> that would have been .... awkward
21:09 <+Hunterkll> "How do you have license for all unlimited. we show only base license."
21:09 < MillerBOSS> Whats a keygen?
21:09 <+Hunterkll> "uhhh it came like that?"
21:09 < MillerBOSS> Yup
21:11 < technonerd> I'm the new guy, previous admin must of done that
21:11 < sadbox> who doesn't love a good audit
21:11 < MillerBOSS> Yup. I am new here.
21:11 <+Hunterkll> hahahaa
21:11 <+Hunterkll> when i got hired
21:11 <+Hunterkll> timeline: day 1, paperwork, blah blah, day 5, friday - get all admin credentials, etc
21:12 <+Hunterkll> next monday: other single admin on vacation, me answering to auditors
21:12 <+Hunterkll> fuck you a-ko, fuck you
21:12 <+Hunterkll> :P
21:12 <@JollyRgrs> hahahaha
21:12 <+Hunterkll> at least i knew a-ko well enough to be confident in just showing the live systems and finding sane configuration
21:12 <+Hunterkll> so i just flipped my laptop around and showed 'em whatever they asked
21:12 <+Hunterkll> passed just fine
21:13 <+Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, it was a FISMA audit too
21:13 <+Hunterkll> :P
21:13 <+Hunterkll> with probably some HIPAA aspects thrown in
21:13 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:13 <@JollyRgrs> i has a sad
21:13 <@JollyRgrs> my jerky from a jar bag is empty now
21:13 < technonerd> Your jar jar jerky is running low?
21:14 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, there are some acl changes that i need to make but i'm unsure of the translation
21:14 <@cryptic1> Hunterkll, back to work
21:14 <@cryptic1> technonerd, back to work
21:14 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, pretend to at least work
21:14 <@cryptic1> dragonfleas, back to work
21:15 <@cryptic1> MillerBOSS, back to work
21:15 <@cryptic1> sadbox, back to work
21:15 <@cryptic1> NinjaStyle, back to work
21:15 <+Hunterkll> JollyRgrs, buy this - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GW46EI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
21:15 <@cryptic1> insecurity, back to work
21:15 <@cryptic1> abakedapplepie, back to work
21:15 < MillerBOSS> Why can't I pretend?
21:15 <@cryptic1> ekaj, back to work
21:15 <@cryptic1> MillerBOSS, because you actually do work
21:16 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, ASDM up?
21:16 < insecurity> NinjaStyle: no users have local admin anywhere else and i can't figure out wtf VPN i'm on. and now there's a hail storm out here holy shittttttttt happy wednesday.
21:16  * asimon escaped and doesnt go back to work
21:16 <+NinjaStyle> insecurity: lol
21:17 <+Hunterkll> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/security/asa/asa83/upgrading/migrating.html#pgfId-113630
21:17 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Cisco ASA 5500 Migration to Version 8.3 - Cisco
21:17 <+Hunterkll> http://www.packetu.com/2011/12/26/how-to-upgrade-a-basic-asa-configuration-to-8-4/
21:17 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  How to Upgrade a Basic ASA Configuration to 8.4 | The Packet University
21:17 < insecurity> even local tools running on the client machines just freeze
21:17 < dragonfleas> thanks
21:17 <+Hunterkll> insecurity, using aruba VPN?
21:17 < dragonfleas> can i open a TAC case to help me since that security bulletin was posted?
21:17 < ekaj> cryptic1: i am at work
21:17 < ekaj> i am doing work
21:17 < ekaj> work work work
21:17 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, only to get the firmware. not for config assistance.
21:18 < dragonfleas> fuck
21:18 <@cryptic1> ekaj, do work keep working
21:18 < dragonfleas> i wish we had a support contract :(
21:18 < insecurity> i can't tell but my hunch is they're using directaccess.
21:18 <@cryptic1> dragonfleas, again get back to work
21:18 < Heresiarch> cryptic1: isthisshityourjob.jpg
21:18 <+Hunterkll> insecurity, oh you'd probably know
21:18 < dragonfleas> stfu cryptic1 Hunterkll is helping me
21:18 <@cryptic1> oh man
21:18 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:18 < dragonfleas> lol
21:18 <@cryptic1> you are getting fired for sure dragonfleas
21:18 < dragonfleas> yeah he's already brought down an entire site for me twice
21:18 < dragonfleas> i don't know why i'm still trusting him
21:19 <+Hunterkll> loooooool
21:19 <+Hunterkll> hold on
21:19 <@cryptic1> j/k Hunterkll usually has good advice unless its the weekend and he is ircing form the bar
21:19 <+Hunterkll> you can easily revert the change you made just now
21:19 <@cryptic1> form/from
21:19 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, https://www.tunnelsup.com/nat-converter/
21:19 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  Cisco ASA NAT Conversion Tool - TunnelsUP
21:19 <+Hunterkll> ^-- ez pz nat tool
21:19 < MillerBOSS> All day long
21:19 < MillerBOSS> Work work work while I sing this song
21:19 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, this one you can paste in your old shit, and get proper new shit
21:19 < MillerBOSS> Gonna wax that floor
21:19 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, unless it works after 8.4(5) successfully boots
21:19 < MillerBOSS> Gonna make it shine
21:19 <+Hunterkll> in which case you don't need it
21:20 <+Hunterkll> it makes an *attempt* at upgrading the rules
21:20 <+Hunterkll> apparently it's not very good
21:20 <+Hunterkll> but it sometimes works
21:20 < MillerBOSS> Gonna take off this spray paint with turpentine
21:21 < javi404> who has the cheapest SSL certs these days?
21:21 <+ihre> letsencrypt
21:21 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, 8.4(5) does not work
21:21 < dragonfleas> letsencrypt++
21:21 < javi404> ihre they do yearly?
21:21 < ekaj> bruh people cant standardize shit and it fucks everything up
21:21 <+ihre> 60days, auto renewal
21:21 <+ihre> if you set it up (TM)
21:21 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, define 'does not work'
21:22 <+Hunterkll> still garbage boot?
21:22 < javi404> pain in the ass though to setup, that is what I wanted to avoid, ill see what they got, im sure it isn't difficult
21:22 <+ihre> ffs, ingress rule on k8s works fine when i try to access it w/ various browser... times out via curl or wget
21:22 <+ihre> wtf
21:22 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, first off reboot back to your old version
21:22 <+Hunterkll> wait
21:22 <+Hunterkll> hm
21:22 <+ihre> javi404: it really isnt, but i guess that depends which OS you're running, never used LE on windows
21:22 <+ihre> on loonix with cert-bot its easy
21:22 < javi404> ihre: amazon linux
21:23 < javi404> for a root domain (can't cname root domain)
21:23 <+ihre> lol
21:23 < javi404> im sure it isn't bad
21:23 <+ihre> if youre on aws you can use acm for free certs
21:23 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, the garbage starts after rommon?
21:23 <+Hunterkll> and you can't ping it at all?
21:23 <+ihre> although not exportable as file
21:23 < javi404> ihre:  yes but only in cloudfront or an ELB or ALB
21:23 <+ihre> yup
21:24 < javi404> and you can't cname a root domain
21:24 < javi404> or you break email and other shit
21:24 < felda> oh boy I get to become IT Forensics now
21:24 < javi404> felda: someone broke something or stole something?
21:25 < felda> nah it's more complicated
21:25 < felda> someone is stealing our business
21:25 < felda> and getting leads through bulk emails
21:25 <+ihre> javi404: you can create aliases for the root domain though, iirc
21:25 < javi404> ihre, yeah, in route53
21:25 < javi404> that will probably be the next step
21:25 < dragonfleas> i don't have any access list Hunterkll
21:26 < dragonfleas> i'm already back on 8.2(5)
21:26 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, okay
21:26 <+Hunterkll> that's good
21:26 < dragonfleas> this conversion tool sucks
21:26 <+Hunterkll> ?
21:26 <+Hunterkll> copy config lines, get new config
21:26 < dragonfleas> it's not clarifying what i need to put in for conversion
21:26 <+Hunterkll> not terrible
21:26 <+Hunterkll> it explicitly says what to
21:26 <+Hunterkll> -_-
21:27 <+Hunterkll> shows examples and everything
21:27 <+Hunterkll> but okay
21:27 <+Hunterkll> so you just have static nat entries
21:27 <+Hunterkll> this is a simple situation
21:27 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:28 < dragonfleas> I have one nonat ACL
21:28 <+Hunterkll> i'm more confused 'bout your 8.4 garbage boot
21:28 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, okay, so everything is working right now?
21:28 < dragonfleas> yes
21:28 < dragonfleas> everything is working
21:28 < dragonfleas> i got everything back up
21:28 <+Hunterkll> .... are you sure the firewall is even doing NAT for your clients?
21:28 <+ihre> javi404: which application do you need a cert for? just a webserver or something else
21:28 <+Hunterkll> and not just a site-site VPN to another gateway?
21:28 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, wouldn't it be doing NAT because it's operating as a router
21:28 < javi404> just a webserver
21:28 < javi404> ihre: nginx
21:28 <+ihre> nginx/apache?
21:28 <+ihre> https://github.com/kshcherban/acme-nginx
21:28 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  GitHub → kshcherban → acme-nginx → python acme client for nginx → @ ~ 19 days ago → Python → ✡ 110 → Forks: 15 → ☹ 5
21:29 < javi404> ihre: ah, thanks
21:29 < dragonfleas> want my config Hunterkll ?
21:29 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, send me a copy of 'show run' - redact anything you care to
21:29 <+Hunterkll> .... yes lol
21:29 < dragonfleas> kk
21:29 < javi404> layer-eight: thanks
21:29 <+ihre> but just cert-bot w/ webroot isnt very difficult either
21:29 < dragonfleas> i'll pm it to you
21:29 <+ihre> layer-eight is a bot, lol
21:29 <+Hunterkll> don't
21:29 <+Hunterkll> PLEASE DONT
21:29 < javi404> helpful but
21:29 < javi404> bot
21:29 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, PASTE IT SOMEWHERE AND SEND ME A LINK
21:29 <+Hunterkll> LOL
21:29 <+Hunterkll> PLEASE DON'T PASTE YOUR CONFIG INTO A PM
21:29 <+Hunterkll> PLEASE
21:29 < javi404> ihre: haha, just realized
21:29 < Heresiarch> certbot also has an nginx plugin. Just sayin'.
21:30  * Hunterkll about to die
21:30 <+ihre> https://paste.fedoraproject.org - dont flood the channel :^)
21:30 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Modern Paste
21:30 < felda> Does anyone know how email tracking works in terms of reporting who opened an email?
21:30 < javi404> Heresiarch: thanks, another option
21:30 < felda> Specifically related to Constant Contact
21:30 <+Hunterkll> ihre, he already said he was going to pm it to me
21:30 < MillerBOSS> http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2018/06/13/7
21:30 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:30 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  oss-security - Intel FP security issue
21:30 < MillerBOSS> Whats this?
21:30 <+ihre> Hunterkll: lucky
21:31 <+Hunterkll> ihre, i just don't want a full ASA config to be pasted at me
21:31 <+Hunterkll> :P
21:31 < javi404> i prefere hastebin
21:31 <+ihre> ix.io ftw
21:32 < javi404> ill check it out
21:32 <+Hunterkll> i should make a pastebin that always deletes posts after 20 minutes or something yb default
21:32 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:32 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i sent it to you
21:32 < dragonfleas> over PM
21:32 < MillerBOSS> http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/commits/2018-June/672325.html
21:32 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  git: Kernel - Additional cpu bug hardening part 2/2
21:32 < Hatter>  there was a pretty big planetside patch you guys
21:32 < Hatter> it might be worth another lookl
21:34 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, first tidbit i see - https://supportforums.cisco.com/t5/firewalling/nat-inside-0-access-list-nonat-deprecated/td-p/2717167
21:34 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  nat (inside) 0 access-list nonat deprec... - Cisco Support Community
21:34 <+ihre> Heresiarch: i never really liked those appache/nginx plugins, rather just used standalone and a stop/start in between :p
21:34 <+ihre> might not be the best solution, but has been working fine for a couple of years now
21:34 < MikeSpears> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rv04NMhG/ wtf that was 10-15ms on my old residential service
21:34 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  Snippet | IRCCloud
21:35 < Heresiarch> ihre: six-of-one...:)
21:35 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, i'll be fucking honest, who set this up
21:35 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, ok so i don't have nat
21:35 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, last dude
21:36 <+Hunterkll> it /looks/ like you're doing a site-site
21:36 < dragonfleas> it was his first time setting up a cisco device
21:36 <+Hunterkll> like maybe?
21:36 < dragonfleas> i am doing site-to-site with HQ
21:36 <+Hunterkll> you only have one configured interface and an access vlan
21:36 <+Hunterkll> like
21:36 <+Hunterkll> how are the clients connecting to the firewall?
21:36 <+ihre> Heresiarch: i have no idea what that means
21:37 <+Hunterkll> oh, right
21:37 <+ihre> javi404: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/kXUJwH-UHDn1wtQKPNaDCQ
21:37 <+layer-eight> * ihre →  Untitled - Modern Paste
21:37 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, unsure what you mean
21:37 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, i assume Ethernet0/0 is your WAN and 1-7 have stufff plugged in
21:37 < dragonfleas> yeah
21:37 < Heresiarch> ihre: "Six of one, one-half dozen of the other"
21:37 <+Hunterkll> i forgot the 5505 has them acting as switchports
21:37 < dragonfleas> 0/0 is the WAN
21:37 <+Hunterkll> 5506-X has routed interfaces instead of switchports
21:37 <+Hunterkll> ok, makes more sense
21:37 <+Hunterkll> so then...
21:37 <+ihre> Heresiarch: oookay
21:37 < dragonfleas> on the 5506-x can you make them switchports?
21:37 <+Hunterkll> standard icmp permit statements
21:38 < javi404> ihre: that looks like a nice clean way to do it
21:38 <+Hunterkll> it's ougly though
21:38 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, .... it's messy
21:38 <+Hunterkll> i think they added a feature later on though
21:38 < dragonfleas> i know...
21:38 < dragonfleas> i didn't do it
21:38 <+Hunterkll> i meant the 5506 situation
21:38 <+Hunterkll> i haven't kept too much track of it myself
21:38 <+ihre> javi404: and run it from cron
21:38 < vinrock> wanna see a flying porta potty?
21:38 < vinrock> https://gfycat.com/LavishWealthyAfricanwildcat
21:38 < Heresiarch> ihre: it's an idiom. Means that either method is about the same to me.
21:38 <+layer-eight> * vinrock →  Windy day at the park GIF | Create, Discover and Share on Gfycat
21:38 < javi404> ihre: perfect
21:38 < javi404> free is the best price
21:38 <+ihre> yup
21:39 <+ihre> Heresiarch: iirc, the apache plugin used to manage configs in sites-available/, which is a pain in the ass if puppet also tries to control apache config :p
21:40 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, okay... you've got .... i think you are doing nat locally
21:40 < MillerBOSS> But how much is free, though?
21:40 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, ok yes we are
21:40 <+ihre> about 3 fiddy
21:40 <+Hunterkll> the nonat is exempting some stuff from it... but only other site lans
21:40 < Heresiarch> ihre: in fairness tho, if you're using puppet, wouldn't you use/write an LE module/role for it?
21:42 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, what's the file name of your 8.2(5)
21:42 <+ihre> i do, but havent updated the modules in a while, was just in between the old and new bin (from letsencrypt to certbot), and this version manages the venv, runs a pip install and then sets up the crontab/job/script for renewal
21:44 <+TuxedoJack> vinrock: https://gifsound.com/?gifv=DIRSSBo&v=z75qvDtbxjQ
21:44 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  GIFs with Sound Mashups
21:44 < vinrock> jfc tuxedojack that is perfect
21:45 <+TuxedoJack> ALLONS-Y!
21:45 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, hold on let me get that
21:45 < dragonfleas> asa825-k8.bin
21:45 <+Hunterkll> okay, so 8.2.5 ED
21:46 < dragonfleas> yeah
21:46 < dragonfleas> what does the ED mean
21:46 <+Hunterkll> early deploymetn, first release
21:46 < dragonfleas> ahhhh
21:46 <+Hunterkll> interim is the bugfix releases
21:46 <+Hunterkll> lol
21:46 <+Hunterkll> interims are like 8.2(5)1 etc
21:50 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, try booting this a shot, let's see if the autoconvert works on this one - and it boots successfully ... http://sfree.ws/model?main_group_id=1&child_group_id=174&model_id=1509&release_id=25873
21:50 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  sfree.ws
21:51 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, after that version should i go to 8.4(5)?
21:51 < dragonfleas> or 8.4(6)?
21:51 <+Hunterkll> depends on how well it works
21:51 < dragonfleas> kk
21:51 <+Hunterkll> i'm hoping the autoconvert works well enough
21:51 <+Hunterkll> .... and that this one boots good
21:51 <+Hunterkll> ....
21:51 <+Hunterkll>  lol
21:55 < darkscrypt> our change management department is so slow lol
21:55 < darkscrypt> needed an emergency change request to make something work. i'm still waiting on approval... but I made the change last week. and they got back to me today saying i need to submit another document before i get approval
21:56 <@JollyRgrs> darkscrypt: lol "you guys realize it's an emergency... we already done did it, right?"
21:56 <@JollyRgrs> maybe that is why they are slow
21:57 <@JollyRgrs> emergency changes are just for record's sake... it's not holding up progress
21:57 < darkscrypt> In addition to the documentation that you have attached, Expedited changes also require an SBAR.  Template attached.  Please complete and attach to the change.   This change is also pending approval from Patrick.  Please be sure to obtain his approval.
21:57 < darkscrypt> that's the email i just got
21:58 < MillerBOSS> PATRICK!!!!!
21:58 < darkscrypt> right
21:58 < Patrick> not me
21:58 < Patrick> :D
21:58 < MillerBOSS> ;)
21:58  * Patrick shaggy's his way out of here "it wasn't me"
21:58 <@JollyRgrs> the only approval i think we give for emergency changes is just the tower lead who says "yeah, git 'er done!"
21:59 < darkscrypt> tower lead?
21:59 < darkscrypt> watchtower?
21:59 < darkscrypt> jehova's witness sysadmin!
22:01 <@JollyRgrs> all along the watchtower
22:02 <@Code_Man65> For us emergency changes are autoclosed and documented after the face
22:03 <@Code_Man65> fact*
22:12 < asimon> What do you think LD stands for when talking about a projector
22:12 < asimon> laser diode?
22:12 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, do you know what version introduces the wizard for Site-to-Site VPN?
22:13 < MillerBOSS> Long dick?
22:13 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, i've never used a wizard.....
22:13 < asimon> Could be
22:13 < MillerBOSS> I mean long distance.
22:13 < dragonfleas> The wizard will simplify that process for me, the whole reason i've been fucking with these firewalls in the first place is to get a VPN mesh network going between all three sites
22:13 < darkscrypt> Linux Driver
22:13 <+Hunterkll> why?
22:13 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, I need a mesh network and we're on a web right now
22:13 <+Hunterkll> chose a central site and hub and spoke it with the strongest one
22:13 < dragonfleas> what?
22:14 < asimon> The error context given in the manual for the pattern of lights I'm seeing is "LD is defective"
22:14 < asimon> And of course LD isn't mentioned anywhere else in the manual
22:14 < javi404> ihre: what client was in that fedora pastbin?
22:14 < javi404> certbot?
22:14 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, why do you /need/ a mesh topology ?
22:15 < MillerBOSS> Low Divergence ?
22:15 < dragonfleas> So that this site can contact resources on a fileserver at the other site, also it makes it easier for me because i'm a roaming employee
22:15 < asimon> I think the L is either light or lamp or laser
22:16 < asimon> Anyways, I guess we'll find out in a day or two when Dell ships me the wrong replacement part
22:16 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, so, standard hub and spoke topology will work, you'll just have one site acting as the central point, and will be a much simpler config
22:16 < MillerBOSS> Link Decrypter?
22:16 <+Hunterkll> but now you're getting into routing and all sorts of fun
22:16 < dragonfleas> right now it's node-a<->node-b and node-b<->node-c
22:16 < asimon> lol i don't think anything about this projector is encrypted
22:16 < asimon> but good guesses, keep em coming
22:16 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, so make it so that node-b can pass traffic for a to c
22:16 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, wouldn't it be much simpler to just set up another site-to-site vpn tunnel?
22:16 <+Hunterkll> that's simpler
22:16 < darkscrypt> https://gifsound.com/?webm=https%3A%2F%2Fgiant.gfycat.com%2FGloomyPossibleHorseshoebat&v=VYOjWnS4cMY&s=42 <--- jesus that changed
22:16 <+layer-eight> * darkscrypt →  GIFs with Sound Mashups
22:17 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, yeah not for someone who doesn't know shit about networking
22:17 <+Hunterkll> all you'd in theory have to do is allow the traffic and add a single route or two
22:17 <+Hunterkll> in fact
22:17 <+Hunterkll> adding a route may just work
22:17 < dragonfleas> plus if HQ goes down we want this site to still be able to access the other site, because i'm planning DR redundancy at all sites that failover on eachother
22:17 <+Hunterkll> honestly  this is a job for regular routers with DMVPN
22:18 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, what's DMVPN?
22:18 <+Hunterkll> something you don't have :P
22:18 < dragonfleas> ok lol
22:18 < rhqq> xD
22:18 < fishar> DYNAMIC MULTIPOINT VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORK
22:18 < dragonfleas> thanks fishar
22:18 <+Hunterkll> with dynamic routing protocol and super fun times
22:18 <+Hunterkll> lol
22:18 <+Hunterkll> automagic
22:18 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll is to pretentious to tell me
22:19 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, ASA's don't support GRE so you're boned, and DMVPN is just multipoint GRE
22:19 < dragonfleas> ok fair
22:19 < zerocool> hi friends i have an problem. basically we have a server named 'server1' and we want to move shares to 'server2', turn server1 off but still allow people to reach the shares... using a CNAME doesn't work for folder redirection and using another A record doesn't work either. I have disabled StrictNameChecking and ValidateTargetName, rebooted and this doesn't seem to have any effect. Any clues?
22:19 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, failover links are annoying too
22:19 < fishar> resident network engineer, happy to help dragonfleas
22:19 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, yeah i know, should i just tell my boss to send me to a cisco bootcamp?
22:20 < dragonfleas> he offered to, but told me to find a boot camp that is going to benefit our company
22:20 <+Hunterkll> fishar, he basically wants to replicate DMVPN with ASAs
22:20 <+Hunterkll> fishar, so, site-site to every node and static routes
22:20 < dragonfleas> fishar, is that possible^?
22:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> ASDM has an easy to use wizard...
22:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> and it does exactly this
22:20 < dragonfleas> THATS WHAT I SAID EARLIER McDonaldsWiFi
22:20 <+Hunterkll> fishar, but first we need to get over the hump of 8.2(5) -> 9.1(x)
22:20 < ebol4> zerocool: if you're turning server1 off, why not just change server2's hostname to server1
22:20 < dragonfleas> but Hunterkll said "no wizards fuccen noob"
22:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> i used that wizard to make 12 site-to-sites
22:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> and they all work perfectly
22:21 <+Hunterkll> ASDM is utterly shit and generates unmanagable code
22:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> hub and spoke
22:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> so, he's a one ma narmy
22:21 <+Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, yes, he wan'ts full mesh
22:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> one man army, and sometimes you gotta get dirty to get it done
22:21 < zerocool> ebol4: because it hosts it's own shares...
22:21 <+Hunterkll> site to site everywhere
22:21 <+Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, he doesn't want hub and spoke
22:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh full mesh
22:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol good luck
22:21 <+Hunterkll> ^
22:21 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i am a one man army dude i don't have time to be a network wizard engineer devops assassin
22:21 < fishar> whatchoo need is an SDN provider :)
22:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> i tried that with ASA and it was nuts
22:21 <+Hunterkll> ^
22:21 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah sorry, I take back what I said
22:21 <+Hunterkll> fishar, or some 1900s with DMVPN
22:21 <+Hunterkll> lol
22:22 < MillerBOSS> asimon 👉 laser diode
22:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> meraki makes mesh super easy but its expensive af
22:22 <+Hunterkll> hell at this size 891's would workj
22:22 < MillerBOSS> Per https://encrypted.google.com/patents/CN105408805A
22:22 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Patent CN105408805A - 光源装置以及投影装置 A light source device and a projection means - Google Patents
22:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> and he's non-profit so thats a no no for sure
22:22 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: you don't have time to be anything else.
22:22 < MillerBOSS> [0007] Non-Patent Document 1, the volume of the laser light source as display, describes an optical fiber array with a plurality of elements LD (laser diode) are connected. In Non-Patent Document volume of the display 1, via one of the LD element and the other end being obliquely cut optical fiber array, changes the distance from the end face the exit of the optical fibers to the retina, to control the
22:22 < MillerBOSS>  depth direction of the image of the projected position.
22:22 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: honestly, just for VPNs, i recommend this book: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1497391903/
22:22 <+Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, yea, i mean
22:22 <+Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin, ?! wat
22:22 < asimon> MillerBOSS: Man you went deep lol
22:22 < fishar> or buy an MPLS L3VPN from your provider
22:22 < asimon> Thanks. They're likely replacing the wrong part then
22:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> you could just do like.... 30 site to sites.....
22:22 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
22:22 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, is there a CBT nuggets or Lynda version of that book?
22:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> but fuck maintaining that
22:23 < MillerBOSS> And if you search for LD you will find LD failure
22:23 <+Hunterkll> lol
22:23 <+Hunterkll> i'm serious
22:23 <+Hunterkll> he's got A B and C
22:23 < MillerBOSS> Also here too https://github.com/OpenNI/OpenNI2/blob/master/Source/Drivers/PS1080/PS1080Console/PS1080Console.cpp
22:23 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  GitHub → OpenNI → OpenNI2 → OpenNI2 → @ ~ 20 days ago → C → ✡ 328 → Forks: 777 → ☹ 58
22:23 < dragonfleas> McDonaldsWiFi, i only have 3 sites, having a mesh would not be hard
22:23 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: that said, you should go for a Cisco bootcamp. Don't be like the guy you're inheriting this gear from - if you get the opportunity to learn how to config correctly, then take it.
22:23 < MillerBOSS> Learning random things
22:23 <+Hunterkll> A has site to site to B and C, B has A and C, and C has B and A
22:23 <+Hunterkll> then he just slaps static routes in there
22:23 <+Hunterkll> lol
22:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> dragonfleas: oh you could just site to site between them all...
22:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> dirty but it would work
22:23 < dragonfleas> ^exactly
22:23 < dragonfleas> we only have 3 sites
22:23 < dragonfleas> like wtf
22:23 <+Hunterkll> yues
22:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> 6 tunnels altogether?
22:23 < dragonfleas> Yes
22:23 <+Hunterkll> yes
22:23 < McDonaldsWiFi> not bad
22:23 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: there sure are CBT nuggets,  this book is a really handy guide if you aren't building VPNs all the time.   sometimes I still use it, just as a checklist
22:23 <+Hunterkll> then static route everything
22:23 < dragonfleas> ok i'll do that
22:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah 3 sites I wouldn't worry about all that crazy shit
22:24 <+Hunterkll> BUT FIRST WE STILL NEED TO GET YOU TO A MODERN FIRMWARE VERSION
22:24 <+Hunterkll> you're crazy fucking exploitable
22:24 <+Hunterkll> lol
22:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
22:24 < asimon> Spent like 30 mins talking with a Dell tech and they're replacing everything about the projector except the lamp (which probably contains the laser diode?)
22:24 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, what level of network understanding do you need to comprehend the book? is it aimed at beginners or intermidiates?
22:24 < asimon> So doing the needful I suppose
22:24 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, did 8.3 come up ?
22:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> hackers gonna tickle your packets
22:24 < McDonaldsWiFi> _Straffer: :>
22:24 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, i'm waiting till after hours brother
22:24 < dragonfleas> gotta wait 3 hours
22:24 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, lol oh
22:24 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas,  i thought you were doing it again
22:24 <+Hunterkll> since you tried 8.4 again
22:24 <+Hunterkll> lol
22:25 < dragonfleas> my boss told me if i take the site down again he's going to schedule me a meeting with my CEO
22:25 < dragonfleas> lol
22:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
22:25 <+Hunterkll> you logged off irc, tried 8.4, then came back
22:25 <+Hunterkll> AFTER YOU SAID YOU WERE WAITING FOR AFTER HOURS ANYWAY
22:25 < dragonfleas> i'll be on IRC at 6:30 lol
22:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> FUCK IT
22:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> WE'LL DO IT LIVE
22:25 <+Hunterkll> I KNOW RIGHT
22:25 <+Hunterkll> he already said I'LL WAIT TILL AFTER
22:25 < insecurity> ooh NinjaStyle my vpn-connected session came back long enough for me to grab the Shrew config file. on the vpn now :D
22:25 <+Hunterkll> then tried it
22:25 < McDonaldsWiFi> FUCKIN THING SUCKS
22:25 <+Hunterkll> AGAIN
22:25 <+Hunterkll> lol
22:25 < dragonfleas> i'll wait till after AND BE ON IRC
22:25 <+NinjaStyle> insecurity: nice
22:25 < insecurity> hopefully it's not the VPN itself that's flaky
22:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> she's a flappin
22:26 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, you mean you won't just leave it broken and not fix it till midday ?
22:26 <+Hunterkll> :P
22:26 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: even when it's 'safe', cowboy-ing production network is a really good way to update your resume
22:26 < dragonfleas> would a CCNA help me with this?
22:26 <+Hunterkll> which one
22:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> ive never heard this used in it before... cowboying
22:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> but I like it
22:27 <+Hunterkll> Firewalls are different from routing & switching cert
22:27 <+Hunterkll> lol
22:27 < dragonfleas> fuck
22:27 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeeeeeha
22:27 < grumplestiltzkin> I do't remember if VPNs are in CCNA - its route/switching mostly
22:27 <+Hunterkll> :)
22:27 < dragonfleas> a firewall cert isn't going to help me
22:27 < dragonfleas> in the future
22:27 < dragonfleas> everywhere always wants "CCNA"
22:27 <+Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin, CCNA has a few, just lik the others
22:27 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: yes, it will.
22:27 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: I guarantee that book will help you
22:27 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, it's also a CCNA!
22:27 < dragonfleas> oh okay cool!
22:27 < dragonfleas> firewall ccna?
22:27 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, there's CCNA: Routing And Switching, CCNA: Security, etc
22:28 <+Hunterkll> Cloud, Collaboration, Cyber Ops, Data Center, Industrial, Routing and Switching, Secrurity, Service Provider, and Wireless
22:28 <+Hunterkll> pick one
22:28 < pcspkr> CCIE or bust
22:28 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, start with the CCENT though
22:28 <+Hunterkll> that's the very very baby cisco cert
22:28 <+Hunterkll> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/training-events/training-certifications/certifications/entry/ccent.html
22:28 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  CCENT - Cisco
22:29 < dragonfleas> I need basic networking knowledge to go into more advanced systems jobs right?
22:29 < grumplestiltzkin> somewhat
22:29 <+Hunterkll> it sure as fuck helps
22:30 <+Hunterkll> wehn you can blame network
22:30 <+Hunterkll> and conclusively say "no, it really is your fucking fault "
22:30 < Heresiarch> dragonfleas: yes.
22:30 <+Hunterkll> "and why the fuck is there a routing loop here?"
22:30 < dragonfleas> Right now I only have 3 MTA's
22:30 < dragonfleas> those are the only certs i have
22:30 < dragonfleas> are baby certs
22:30 <+Hunterkll> heh
22:30 <+Hunterkll> i just put in for 2 microsoft, 3 amazon, and 1 google cert
22:30 <+Hunterkll> for training/cert
22:30 <+Hunterkll> for cloud tech
22:30 <+Hunterkll> they'll be my first modern certs :o
22:30 < grumplestiltzkin> Hunterkll trying to be a watherman
22:31 < dragonfleas> anybody know any good value boot camps?
22:31 < dragonfleas> all the ones i'm finding are like 7 thousand dollars for one part of a 3 part class which is fucking ridiculous
22:31 < ebol4> boot camps suck
22:31 <+Hunterkll> i mean ... Global Knowledge is pretty much the standard
22:31 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: global knowledge has courses,
22:31 <+Hunterkll> I did my Azure Infrastructure course with them
22:31 < grumplestiltzkin> like annual fee and you can take as many as you want
22:32 < dragonfleas> http://www.cedsolutions.com/1401/certification/mcsa-server-2016-ccna
22:32 <+layer-eight> * dragonfleas →  MCSA: Windows Server 2016 & CCNA Certification Training
22:32 < grumplestiltzkin> iirc its under 5k for the whole cisco curriculum for a year
22:32 < dragonfleas> this looks good
22:32 < dragonfleas> CCNA & MCSA
22:32 < dragonfleas> my brain will be dead after those 15 days
22:32 < grumplestiltzkin> 15 days for both?
22:32 < dragonfleas> no
22:32 < dragonfleas> yeah for both
22:32 < grumplestiltzkin> dude.   I remember in school we spent almost a full week just on subnetting
22:33 < grumplestiltzkin> well.. class
22:33 < grumplestiltzkin> and that was just with ipv4
22:34 < dragonfleas> global knowledge is 5000 dollars
22:34 < dragonfleas> are boot camps worthless?
22:34 < L3gacy> I did it!
22:34 < L3gacy> I purged myself of my ex's friendshit!
22:35 < grumplestiltzkin> a boot camp will be fast-paced, but should have all the gear on hand for you to get prac-app
22:35 <+Hunterkll> yea
22:36 <+Hunterkll> bootcamps are great to validate knowledge and get instructor help
22:36 <+Hunterkll> but i'd get at least halfway through the material before even starting
22:36 <+Hunterkll> also
22:36 < L3gacy> Hunterkill, how was the con?
22:36 <+Hunterkll> which one of you fucks
22:36 <+Hunterkll> which one of you fucks
22:36 <+Hunterkll> is the reason for this rule
22:36 <+Hunterkll> https://i.imgur.com/4lUvbym.png
22:36 <+layer-eight> * Hunterkll →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 506,053 bytes
22:37 <@killdash9> damn, rule one is a bit harsh. I need my...candy
22:37 < DoctorDick> Someone needs to learn how to censor things
22:37 <+Hunterkll> not my pic
22:37 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: what Hunterface said - dont go into a bootcamp blind, read the material first, it doesnt cost anything but time
22:37 <+Hunterkll> i just copied it from facebook
22:37 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: consider the human contents of a campus computer lab. It's not really fair to ask CS/Eng students to clean up bodily fluids.
22:37 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, i wonder if i can finance the course if my boss won't pay for all of it
22:37 < grumplestiltzkin> Hunterkll: read #1 again
22:38 < grumplestiltzkin> "if you have any cum or candy with you"    ... wat
22:38 <+Hunterkll> grumplestiltzkin, that's the whole reason i posted it here...
22:38 < ebol4> dragonfleas: ask your boss for $5k, pocket it, and then watch some youtube videos
22:38 <@killdash9> I really, really hope they meant 'gum'. I hope
22:38 <+Hunterkll> Heresiarch, dude this looks like a fuckin like middle school lab or something
22:38 <+Hunterkll> not CS students
22:38 <+Hunterkll> like "do not use printing machine without your teacher's permission" and shit
22:38 <+Hunterkll> and "playground voice"
22:38 < dragonfleas> WAIT
22:39 < dragonfleas> do bootcamps offer discounts for non-profits?
22:39 <+Hunterkll> i dunno
22:39 <+Hunterkll> some may
22:39 <+Hunterkll> check via techsoup
22:39 < Heresiarch> Hunterkll: middle school might be a little much, but HS+? Those rules are absolutely valid.
22:39 < grumplestiltzkin> dragonfleas: if work wont pay for it,  there are a lot of other training options
22:39 < dragonfleas> grumplestiltzkin, like what?
22:40 < grumplestiltzkin> beside nuggets, I'd bet a dollar you could get a full CCNA training from youtube - maybe not all from the same person
22:40 < grumplestiltzkin> and there are publicly accessible labs out there, and the cisco simulator is good for everything below CCIE iirc
22:46 < dragonfleas> yeah I've used packet tracer before
22:46 < dragonfleas> it's a cool program, i made an entire virtual company and shit
22:49 < MikeSpears> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/APZgtvZs/35297859_656181654725658_2280201560535334912_n.png
22:49 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 554,826 bytes
22:51 <+Hunterkll> dragonfleas, do you not have a spare ASA as a test device somewhere?
22:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> how far away is this machine dragonfleas ?
22:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> can you ask you boss if you can pay a local MSP or something to help get you some boots on the ground?
22:52 <+Hunterkll> McDonaldsWiFi, he's already had to physically ocnsole into it
22:52 <+Hunterkll> so not a problem i think
22:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> ahh
22:52 <+Hunterkll> and lol they're using fucking 5505s when 5506-X's are like $400 + smartnet
22:56 < felda> do you guys call PNG images pings?  pengs? PEE EHN GEE?
22:56 < L3gacy> pings
22:56 < rhqq> pongs
22:56 < felda> personally I prefer penj with a soft g
22:56 < genr8_> PEE N G
22:57 < rhqq> pee ehn gee
22:57 < genr8_> yep that
22:57 < vinrock> i say png
22:57 < felda> jpg?
22:57 < vinrock> pronouncing the 'ng' like in tagalog
22:57 < felda> jaypeg?
22:57 < felda> J. P. G.??
22:57 < genr8_> jay peg i think
22:57 < rhqq> yeah
22:58 < grumplestiltzkin> like punji
22:58 < dragonfleas> Hunterkll, no i don't, we don't have spare anything lmao, we're broke as fuck
22:58 < rhqq> how about GIF? :E
22:58 < dragonfleas> we're funded by the department of mental health, and that funding has been cut 50%
22:58 < dragonfleas> recently
22:58 < rhqq> geef or jiif ?
22:58 < vinrock> i pronounce it like 'JRAPHICS'
22:58 < dragonfleas> we already laid off like 30% of the staff
22:58 < vinrock> or 'JOLDEN RETRIEVER'
22:58 < dragonfleas> JOLDEN
22:58 < rhqq> xD
22:58 < dragonfleas> stay JOLDEN pony boy
22:58 < felda> lmao
22:58 < technonerd> Jolden nugget
22:58 < dragonfleas> felda, pfsense
22:59 < dragonfleas> joldensense
22:59 < felda> I always pronounce GIF with the soft g
22:59 < vinrock> so soft
22:59 < DomLS3> jif
23:00 < felda> because as we all know GIF is an acronym so it doesn't really end up following english rules that well
23:00 < felda> also the dev asked pretty nicely to pronounce it soft
23:00 <@JollyRgrs> yeah, but he's wrong felda
23:00 <@JollyRgrs> everyone else is right
23:01 <@JollyRgrs> tbh... he waited WAAAAYYYY too long to try to start a campaign for pronouncing it the way he wants it to be
23:01 <@JollyRgrs> he lost that right
23:01 < felda> he said that not long after GIF came out
23:01 < felda> it was in the tag line for it lmao
23:01 < felda> "Choosey devs choose GIF"
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> maybe he shoulda made a ga-ga-gif about it
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> or added an extra F
23:02 < felda> Maybe I should put you on a rocket and ask NaySay to launch it for me
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> GIFF
23:02  * JollyRgrs starts singing sinatra's Fly Me To The Moon
23:03 < dragonfleas> um
23:03 < felda> To be honest I'll be pleased when GIFs die and WebM becomes the master race
23:03 < dragonfleas> so there's a course at my local college i could take and get my MCSE
23:03 < dragonfleas> and i could get financial aid for it
23:03 < dragonfleas> that might be a good idea
23:03 < felda> then again it will always be around because people consider any little video clip to be a GIF
23:03 < dragonfleas> that would provide me with more study time
23:05 < technonerd> Can hangouts just support gfycat imgur links like yesterday
23:06 < technonerd> It makes memeing hard
23:06 < McDonaldsWiFi> s/memeing/me
23:06 <+layer-eight> [SED McDonaldsWiFi/technonerd] It makes me hard
23:07 < felda> The year is 2069
23:07 < felda> I'm on the run from the word police
23:07 < felda> After Trump enacted the "Act Good, Speak Gooder" law it was illegal to mispronounce words
23:07 < felda> GIF checkpoints were setup all across the country
23:08 < felda> But flying the pfsense of my pants I've evaded capture
23:09 < felda> I intend to sneak into Canada where they speak the goodest old english
23:09 < felda> that and dirty french
23:09 < felda> Hoping to disguise my soft G's as just an accent
23:09 < McDonaldsWiFi> Handmaid's Tale turned into Pfsense Tale
23:10 < McDonaldsWiFi> felda: iknow you smoke a lot of weed lol
23:10 < felda> Sometimes it's nice to write a short story while the ol' creative juices are vaping
23:10 < felda> perhaps I'll write a haiku about it
23:11 < felda> Snap idea: Would anyone attend a slam poetry event hosted by me?
23:11 < DomLS3> felda: nobody would attend any event hosted by you
23:11 < McDonaldsWiFi> waifu convention
23:11 < felda> RUDE
23:11 < deww> felda: I am afraid purely on the pronounciation of GIF at the checkpoints. should i just end it now?
23:12 < technonerd> Door to door waifu pillow sales mam
23:12 < vinrock> dragonfleas are you unemployed
23:12 < DomLS3> A hole made conveniently in the back that's hidden so the wife doesn't know
23:12 < felda> cryptic1 enjoy this haiku I wrote for you
23:12 < felda> It's not DNS
23:12 < felda> It cannot be DNS
23:12 < felda> It was DNS
23:13 < technonerd> Frame it
23:13 < technonerd> In comic sans
23:14 < vinrock> local mexican place finally upgraded their shit website to something decent
23:14 < vinrock> but the menu is comic sans
23:14 < vinrock> D:
23:15 < dragonfleas> vinrock, no
23:15 < dragonfleas> but i make hella low salary
23:15 < dragonfleas> felda, yeah i do slam poetry
23:16 < vinrock> i think department of labor sponsors state programs for training grants
23:16 < vinrock> but you gotta be unemployed
23:16 < vinrock> up to $4k
23:16 < vinrock> and has to be an in-demand job
23:16 < dragonfleas> i should quit my job and go to school full time
23:16 < felda> Code_Man65 would you like a haiku?
23:17 < felda> don't bother responding it was rhetorical and you are getting one whether you like it or not
23:17 < felda> 1. Red, white, and blue case
23:17 < felda> 2. pfSense from LAN to sea
23:17 < felda> 3. Packets flowing free
23:19 < McDonaldsWiFi> needs more guns
23:20 < rhqq> McDonaldsWiFi: you going to school?
23:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> ohh shittttt
23:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> i meant the haiku
23:20 < vinrock> code man 65
23:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> but good joke
23:20 < GreyKite> dragonfleas: do you actually do slam?
23:20 < vinrock> always kicking pfelda
23:20 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
23:20 < vinrock> this is a haiku
23:21 < dragonfleas> GreyKite, yes sir, would you like to read some of it?
23:21 < felda> brb gotta run to my other site
23:21 < GreyKite> dragonfleas: sure
23:22 < GreyKite> haven't been around the scene since highschool, always an interesting experience
23:22 < GreyKite> dragonfleas: but always best if you've got a video, slam is best live
23:23 < dragonfleas> yeah i don't have any videos because i do it locally, i ask no one to record me because I write very controversial poetry and I'm super afraid of getting attacked by SJW's
23:24 < dragonfleas> I wrote a poem about mutual abuse, and it really sounded on the surface level like i was apologetic for the abusers, but it's not what it was about, then some girl at the coffee shop called me a abusive piece of shit cis white man
23:24 < dragonfleas> ever since then I ask no one to record and I leave after I read my poetry
23:25 < dragonfleas> GreyKite, here's one i wrote forever ago that i never recited publicly
23:25 < dragonfleas> https://pastebin.com/VG9TTdkt
23:25 <+layer-eight> * dragonfleas →  meme - Pastebin.com
23:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> later fellas
23:33 < GreyKite> dragonfleas: nice
23:38 < MillerBOSS> Anyone deploy QuickBooks Enterprise? How do you do it
23:39 < alazare619> do it for dale
23:39 < aName> MillerBOSS: Do you have the goat ready?
23:39 < gamerfox> Quickbooks in general will require numerous virgin sacrifices.
23:39 < MillerBOSS> Goat? Adam Sandler?
23:40 < alazare619> MillerBOSS: if no got can be had I will sell you one of mine
23:40 < alazare619> goat*
23:40 < alazare619> just not clementine she is my favorite
23:40 < aName> MillerBOSS: What the hell happened to you?
23:40 < MillerBOSS> I usually install manually but its time I attempt to deploy it.
23:40 < MillerBOSS> HEY GOAT
23:40 < MillerBOSS> Whats the hell is going on out there
23:41  * aName beats MillerBOSS with a hickory stick
23:41 < MillerBOSS> Yup. That never gets old.
23:42 < MillerBOSS> Well this is a start https://i.imgur.com/0mVLubW.png
23:42 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 49,648 bytes
23:43 < alazare619> what dis?
23:43 < alazare619> what did you use to find dis
23:43 < MillerBOSS> https://www.itninja.com/question/quickbooks-2018-deployment
23:43 <+layer-eight> * MillerBOSS →  Q&A: Quickbooks 2018 Deployment. | ITNinja
23:44 < MillerBOSS> 3rd answer
23:44 < MillerBOSS> Has the link
23:46 < MillerBOSS> Gonna try to deploy with PDQ Deploy.
23:46 < MillerBOSS> Extract the exe with WinRAR
23:47 < MillerBOSS> Also I see this has some options QuickBooksEnterprise18\QBooks> .\QuickBooks.msi ?
23:47 < MillerBOSS> That is the extracted folder.
23:48 < aName> lol - this guy asks how to buy drugs when one is autistic - explain that the darknet makes this easy these days - buy a laptop anonymously in cash, remove the disk, boot a diskless OS and launch your TOR browser... right?
23:48 < aName> Someone replies "Dude, is the FBI chasing you?"
23:48 < aName> ... well, yes - when one tries to buy illegal drugs online, yes, the FBI is watching
23:49 < s7rawman> So I'm looking at getting a KVM since my predecessor the previous one out(I can't get a reason out anyone why besides he didn't trust it). Any recommendations? 8port with usb and vga support
23:50 < aName> MillerBOSS: Nothing, old man. Just sitting on the pickup truck, tied to it as usual.
23:52 < MillerBOSS> aName 👉From memory: well if you even think of getting truck I'll take out my hickory stick and shove your smelly goat ass.
23:53 < aName> Close enough
23:53 < aName> You missed a couple of pronouns
23:54 < aName> And it's because, not well
23:54 < MillerBOSS> Yup you are right
23:54 < aName> Same meaning, though.
23:54 < MillerBOSS> Loud and clear old man
23:54 < aName> I listened to that album SOOOOOO many times
23:55 < frostyfrog> aName: lol @ the drugs comment xD
23:55 < MillerBOSS> Middle school and high school
23:55 < aName> frostyfrog: Right?
23:58 <+Hunterkll> цудд ше цщклы
23:58 <+Hunterkll> ш сфтэ пуе
23:58 <+Hunterkll> юююю
23:58 <+Hunterkll> ... go ddamnit
23:58 <+Hunterkll> lol okay now i'm in EN-US
23:58 < MillerBOSS> I knew it
23:58 < MillerBOSS> You are a Russian spy
23:58 <+Hunterkll> lol
23:58 < MillerBOSS> BAN HIM!!
23:58 < aName> Look at the way he squats, all flat-footed.
23:58 < aName> The tracksuit should have been a giveaway
23:59 <+Hunterkll> if i were a russian spy
23:59 <+Hunterkll> i wouldn't have been typing english in cyrillic
23:59 <+Hunterkll> i would actually know russian by now
23:59 <+Hunterkll> :'(
23:59  * Hunterkll mails off passport to russian embassy >_>
23:59 < aName> Are you the machine?
23:59 < MillerBOSS> Says the Russian spy. See that FBI lurkers?
23:59 < aName> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paG1-lPtIXA
23:59 <+layer-eight> * aName →  YouTube → The Machine - Bert Kreischer: THE MACHINE → ⚘ 6,214,908 ↑ 92,256 ↓ 2,157 ✍ 1,548
23:59 < aName> MillerBOSS: I'd be surprised if we didn't have a few here.
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