--- Log opened Wed Jul 11 00:00:03 2018
--- Day changed Wed Jul 11 2018
00:00 < ENIX> I THINK SOMEONE ALREADY HAS IT IN NSW FROM MEMORY
00:00 < CableNinja> but what about 'FALSE'
00:00 < CableNinja> or 'NIL'
00:00 < CableNinja> really depends on what backend they are using :)
00:00 < ENIX> yeah 100%
00:02 < ENIX> FOR A WHILE DOWN SOUTH A BUNCH OF THE FOURBIE GUYS HAD PLATES LIKE I1X1I
00:02 < ENIX> IDK IF IT WAS MEANT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE REPORTING PLATES BUT IT LOOKED COOL
00:03 < adamb> WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST STEAL A PLATE LIKE A REGULAR BOGAN
00:04 < ENIX> HAHAHA
00:04 < ENIX> TRYING TO SEARCH FOR 'NULL' ON PPQ BREAKS THE SEARCH
00:04  * ENIX WONDERS IF HE REGISTERED NULL PTY LTD IF HE COULD LEGALLY AQUIRE THOSE PLATES
00:05 < ENIX> WELL IF I REGISTERED NULL PTD LTD I COULD TAKE NULL.COM.AU
00:05 < ENIX> MIGHT BE AN IDEA
00:06 < abakedapplepie> ppq?
00:06 < ENIX> PERSONALIZED PLATES QUEENSLAND
00:08 < ENIX> holy shit...
00:08 < CableNinja> ENIX if 'null' breaks their search, you should try some sql injection :)
00:08 < ENIX> FUCK SOMEONE HACKED MY SHIT THE CUNTS
00:09 < adamb> мои соболезнования
00:10 < adamb> DID THEY LEAVE IT PLAYING SOME AWESOME CHIPTUNE MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND? I MISS THAT ABOUT GETTING HACKED IN THE 90'S
00:12 < adamb> https://youtu.be/HfH28RfE8tg?t=267
00:12 <+layer-eight> * adamb →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfH28RfE8tg&feature=youtu.be&t=267 → YouTube → 8-bits Keygen/Crack Music - Chiptunes - 2017 - Top 13 → ⚘ 695 ↑ 12 ↓ 0 ✍ 1
00:12 < adamb> LIKE THAT
00:14 < ENIX> HEHE THEY APPLY JAVASCRIPT ONLY ONCE
00:14 < ENIX> WHAT SHOULD I DO AFTER NULL?
00:14 < ENIX> NULL"; SHOW TABLES;
00:14 < ENIX> ?
00:15 < CableNinja> do this:' ; SHOW TABLES; --'
00:15 < CableNinja> ENIX ^
00:16 < ENIX> after null?
00:16 < CableNinja> no null
00:16 < CableNinja> oh you might have to add a double quote before the first semicolon though
00:16 < ENIX> nah nothing
00:16 < ENIX> thre's not return text anyway so it'sa bit hard
00:18 < adamb> trying sql injection on a government site?
00:18 < adamb> https://youtu.be/lvOTaXIog6k?t=15
00:18 <+layer-eight> * adamb →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvOTaXIog6k&feature=youtu.be&t=15 → YouTube → Lemongrab - 12 years dungeon, 7 years no trial → ⚘ 97,011 ↑ 514 ↓ 6 ✍ 24
00:19 < ENIX> YOU CANT FIND ME IM BEHIND 9000 PROXIES
00:19 < CableNinja>  /r/itsaunixsystem
00:19 < ENIX> WHATS AUNIX
00:21 < Zedax> hey there, do you know by chance any place that sells used xeons (that aren't ES/QS) for a good price? i'm looking for haswell or broadwell
00:21 < MikeSpears> Zedax: ebay
00:21 < JollyRgrs> AUNIXY STEM
00:21 < JollyRgrs> AUNIXSY EVEN
00:21 < Zedax> in ebay they are terribly overpriced most of the time, like 3/4 ot 2/3 the price of new
00:22 < StrongBad> do y'all turn on SMART warnings on your computers anymore? Has been off by default in BIOS on my Dell PCs for years. Never really knew why since AFAIK SMART warnings are good and warn of impending drive failure.
00:22 < JollyRgrs> Lower your standards
00:22 < CableNinja> StrongBad, production systems, yes, and then I alert via monitoring solution
00:22 < JollyRgrs> Find a good core2duo
00:22 < ENIX> https://www.reddit.com/r/itsaunixsystem/comments/8velc2/braindead_each_panel_was_filled_with_multicolored/
00:22 <+layer-eight> * ENIX →  [BRAINDEAD] "each panel was filled with multicolored algorithms" : itsaunixsystem
00:22 < ENIX> HOLY SHIT BEST COMMENT IS GOLD
00:23 < JollyRgrs> StrongBad:  Dell only wants you to call them for support if their diagnostics say it is bad
00:23 < JollyRgrs> They think SMART can't be trusted with normies
00:23 < StrongBad> so the answer is of course you want to keep turning that on by default StrongBad
00:23 < ENIX> JOLLYRGRS ITS STILL 2223
00:23 < JollyRgrs> I love smart data
00:24 < JollyRgrs> SORRY ENIX, MY PHONE LOST CAPS
00:24 < ENIX> JOLLYRGRS SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN IPHONE
00:24 < JollyRgrs> WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN
00:24 < JollyRgrs> NOPE
00:25 < ENIX> http://governors.e-archives.ky.gov/_govpatton/dec_2003/gov.state.ky.us/1st_lady/microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/solaris.aspx.htm
00:25 <+layer-eight> * ENIX →  Windows Media Player for Solaris Features
00:27 < ENIX> 'DOUBLE THE PIXELS'
00:27 < ENIX> THANK YOU FOR THIS SUBREDDIT
00:27 < ENIX> I DID NOT NEED TO WORK TODAY
00:27 < JollyRgrs> ENIX: Hunterkll WATCHES ALL HIS PORN FROM A SOLARIS BOX RUNNING WMP
00:27 < CableNinja> hahah
00:27 < CableNinja> surprised you didnt know about that sub tbh
00:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> anyone ever tried to route openvpn through a very restrictive firewall/router?
00:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> :(
00:28 < ENIX> MCDONALDSWIFI CAN YOU SSH OUT
00:28 < CableNinja> inbound or outbound?
00:28 < ENIX> CABLENINJA HIS OPENVPN IS HOSTED BY DIGITALOCEAN AND HIS SYSADMIN DOESN'T LIKE HIM VERY MUCH
00:29 < CableNinja> oh well then...
00:29 < JollyRgrs> NOTHING LIKE HAVING A BLUE VESTY LOADING WALMART PRODUCT IN MY CAR. DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GET OUT OF MY CAR
00:29 < CableNinja> 1) move away from digital ocean
00:29 < CableNinja> 2) be your own sysadmin
00:29 < CableNinja> 3) never deal with it again
00:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> why the caps
00:29 < JollyRgrs> PFSENSE WITH OPENVPN ON A HOME BOX
00:29 < ENIX> JUST DONT BE A SYSADMIN OF A MAIL SYSTEM
00:29 < ENIX> FUCK MY LIFE
00:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm gone a week and this is what I come back to?
00:29 < JollyRgrs> DONE
00:29 < ENIX> MCDONALDSWIFI CHECK TOPIC
00:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> ENIX: hmmmm not sure.. that's a good one
00:30 < ENIX> PLEASE ADHERE TO CHANNEL RULES
00:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh so this is offically a circle jerk now
00:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> SRY
00:30 < CableNinja> ENIX been there, done that. managed a shared mail system for ~10k domains
00:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> I TRIED TO ROUTE THE VPN THROUGH 443 TCP
00:30 < ENIX> MCDONALDSWIFI THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CIRCLE JIRK
00:30 < adamb> WHEN HAS THIS EVER NOT BEEN A CIRCLEJERK
00:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> BUT IT STILL DIDN'T WORK
00:30 < ENIX> HUNTERKLL OWES ME A HANDJOB
00:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> adamb ENIX +++++
00:30 < ENIX> BUT I OWE HIM THE FLIGHT FOR IT SOO....
00:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> MY BRAIN CAN'T TURN OFF THE SHOUTING
00:30 < ENIX> MCDONALDSWIFI YOU CAN'T SSH OUT? HM
00:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'M LITERALLY READING THIS LIKE WE'RE IN A ROOM WITH VERY LOUD MACHINES
00:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> NOT SURE ENIX
00:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> NEVER TRIED AT WORK TBH...
00:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> BUT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY ROUTE VPN THROUGH PORT 22?
00:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> TCP YA?
00:31 < agent_white> D:
00:31 < adamb> USE UDP, RUN OPENVPN ON PORT 53
00:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO
00:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> i BET THAT WOULD WORK AS WELL
00:31 < ENIX> HMM ... SSH IS BLOCKED, OPENVPN IS BLOCKED... HAVE YOU TRIED GOPHER?
00:31 < McDonaldsWiFi> I WOULDN'T COULDN'T SSH BLOCKED
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> I NEVER TRIED TO SSH OVER WAN BEFORE
00:32 <+TuxedoJack> HAVE YOU TRIED TURNING IT OFF AND THROWING YOUR FECES AT IT
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> TuxedoJack YES
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> NO LUCK
00:32 < ENIX> NO SYSADMIN IS BLOCKING TCP BUT NOT UDP TRAFFIC LMAO
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> WELL ITS A SHIT SITUATION
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> SOMEHOW THE SHOP ENDED UP WITH AN AT&T MANAGED ROUTER/FIREWALL
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> LO
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> SO AT&T IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD AT LOCKING IT DOWN
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> :(
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> I CAN'T EVEN CONNECT TO FREENODE FROM HEXCHAT
00:32 < McDonaldsWiFi> NONE OF THE FREENODE PORTS ARE OPEN
00:33 < adamb> THIS IS WHY JESUS GAVE US 4G
00:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> ITS IN THE BOONIES
00:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> E NETWORK
00:33 < ENIX> URGH WE HAVE TELSTRA FIREWALL
00:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> FML X2
00:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> SO..
00:33 < CableNinja> have you tried using morsecode?
00:33 < ENIX> THEY BASICALLY SAY 'USE OUR FIREWALL OR NO INTERNETS FOR YU'
00:33 < ENIX> THE CUNTS
00:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> PORT 22 UDP OR TCP
00:33 < ENIX> POOR YU. HE WAS JUST A WEEK AWAY FROM DEPORATION TOO.
00:33 < adamb> IF YOU LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTRY HAVEN'T YOU GOT SHEEP TO FUCK FOR ENTERTAINMENT INSTEAD OF WIFI?
00:33 < CableNinja> McDonaldsWiFi, setup small proxy outside network, proxy via that to vpn? :)
00:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> lots of work...
00:34 < CableNinja> do you want vpn or you wanna go home
00:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
00:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm gonna try tcp port 22
00:34 < Alternity> i feel so broke up, i wanna go home
00:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> and if that doesn't work ill try udp port 53
00:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> if that doesn't work Ill consider a proxy
00:34 < McDonaldsWiFi> but itll take 2 days to try both of those xD
00:35 < ENIX> ALL SO YOU CAN LOOK AT REDDIT AT WORK...
00:35 < ENIX> PROTIP
00:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> I actually CAN look at areddit
00:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> reddit isn't fucking blocked
00:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
00:35 < ENIX> NETOPS/SYSOPS WILL SEE A SHIT TONNE OF TRAFFIC ON PORT 22 AND GET SUS INSTANTLY
00:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> all so I can ssh into my homelab to have irc up is the actual reason
00:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
00:35 < McDonaldsWiFi> same for port 53 I bet
00:36 < ENIX> IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR SOMEONE SUSPECTED OF HACKING/SPYING ON THE COMPANY TO BE SPIED UPON WITH DISCRETE MONITORING TOOLS
00:36 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: that's mostly what I use ssh for at work
00:36 < JollyRgrs> UGH
00:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> what, IRC?
00:36 < JollyRgrs> YEAH
00:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> I wouldn't do all of this if I could just access freenode from work lol
00:36 < JollyRgrs> I JUST SSH ON PORT 22
00:36 < McDonaldsWiFi> I guess ill just set my phone hotspot and IRC at 9600 baud
00:36 < JollyRgrs> :P
00:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> xD
00:37 < CableNinja> freenode webclient still a thing?
00:37 < ENIX> WHO THE FUCK SETS BAUD RATE ON MOBILE PHONE TETHERING ANYMORE
00:37 < JollyRgrs> WITH BAD/SLOW NETWORK USE MOSH FOR SSH
00:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> itsa  joke you fuck
00:37 < McDonaldsWiFi> joke on the shit service I have there
00:37 <+TuxedoJack> ENIX: WHO THE FUCK DOES NON-HOTSPOT TETHERING
00:37 <+TuxedoJack> SERIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT ON FUCKING SPRINT 3G
00:37 < ENIX> TUXEDOJACK SOMEONE WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT THEIR PHONE NOT DYING
00:38 < adamb> 115200 BAUD KEEPS THE HACKERS OUT OF YOUR SERIAL PORTS, TRUE FACT
00:38 <+TuxedoJack> ENIX: SO YOU DON'T FUCKING PLUG IT INTO YOUR FUCKING LAPTOP? WHAT, IS YOUR FUCKING BATTERY TOO SHITTY TO CHARGE YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU'RE TETHERED?
00:38 < McDonaldsWiFi> why is networking so hard
00:39 < ENIX> s/CARES ABOUT THEIR PHONE NOT DYING/BOUGHT AN IPHONE
00:39 <+layer-eight> [SED ENIX] TUXEDOJACK SOMEONE WHO FUCKING BOUGHT AN IPHONE
00:39 < ENIX> FTFY
00:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> oh and my new boss has been in IT for 10 years and doesn't know what IRC is
00:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> what is life
00:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> he also didn't know what dickbutt was
00:39 < McDonaldsWiFi> so that was awkward
00:39 < Alternity> usb tethering never seems to work
00:39 < AustinS> we block 53 outbound lol :s
00:40 < AustinS> use our DNS or suffer!
00:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> AustinS: fuckkkk
00:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> I assume that its locked down as well
00:40 < McDonaldsWiFi> no way around it tbh, which is a testiment to AT&T's shit
00:40 < AustinS> literally don't block most other things, it's just .. idk why DNS got locked down lol
00:40 < AustinS>  / i'm on vlan that goes around that stuff anyways but
00:40 <+TuxedoJack> McDonaldsWiFi: https://i.imgur.com/xndlx0u.jpg
00:40 <+layer-eight> * TuxedoJack →  IMGUR Image → Image/jpeg → a year ago → 2240x4000 → ⚘ 427
00:40 <+TuxedoJack> Look what's carved into the wallmounted LCD panel
00:41 < adamb> IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO BLOCK OUTBOUND DNS, AS COLLECTING TELELMETRY FROM YOUR INTERNAL DNS RESOLVERS IS A GREAT WAY TO LOOK FOR IOC'S
00:41 < Alternity> wtf cat-o-nine tails and dickbutt??
00:41 < Alternity> ya'll into some kinky shit
00:42 < Alternity> and an etherkiller
00:42 < AustinS> but but... look at our pretty wiring!! https://austin.gg/ss/7A9dir4.jpg
00:42 <+layer-eight> * AustinS →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 368,327 bytes
00:42 < ENIX> TUXEDOJACK 10/10 THANK YOU
00:42 <+TuxedoJack> Alternity: that's my old office, now that shit's hanging on my home office wall
00:42 < ENIX> DID THE ETHERKILLER EVERY WORK
00:43 <+TuxedoJack> YES
00:43 < ENIX> ASKING FOR A FRIEND
00:43 < ENIX> SWEE
00:43 <+TuxedoJack> SHIT FUCKING BLEW UP
00:43 <+TuxedoJack> LOCAL JACK TO BLAME
00:43 < ENIX> AWESOME
00:43 < ENIX> `bofh
00:43 <+layer-eight> BOFH Wrong polarity of neutron flow
00:43 < ENIX> OMFG THAT IS FUCKING PERFECT
00:43 < ENIX> THANK YOU LAYER-EIGHT
00:45 < adamb> TuxedoJack: IS THAT AN MDI OR MDI-X ETHERKILLER
00:46 < MiLLERBOSS> GTFO
00:46 <+TuxedoJack> adamb: MDI-XTREME
00:46 < adamb> :D
00:46 < MiLLERBOSS> MICROSOFT IS BUYING PRIVATE INTERNET ACCESS WHICH OWNS FREENODE
00:47 < MiLLERBOSS> MIGHT AS WELL BUY REDDIT WHILE YOU ARE AT IT MICROSOFT
00:47 < adamb> LINUS TECH TIPS IS GOING TO NEED ANOTHER NEW SPONSOR
00:48 < AustinS> i lost pic of our empty datacenter :( sad day
00:48 < MiLLERBOSS> MYSPACE
00:48 < MiLLERBOSS> YOU ARE A SAD DAY AUSTINS
00:48 < MiLLERBOSS> WHAT?
00:49 < AustinS> ugh you still on the caps shit
00:49 < MiLLERBOSS> TOPIC
00:49 < MiLLERBOSS> :)
00:49 < JollyRgrs> IS TODAY CAPS ONLY TUESDAY?
00:49 < ENIX> AUSTINS FOR ANOTHER 71 MINUTES YES
00:49 < ENIX> BRB IT IS POO TIME.
00:49 < MiLLERBOSS> The date & time is currently: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 5:49:55 PM
00:50 < adamb> ON THE SUBJECT OF ETHERKILLERS, NEWEST POE+ STANDARD ALLOWS FOR 96 WATTS PER PORT
00:50 < adamb> THAT'S ENOUGH TO POWER A TAZER
00:50 < MiLLERBOSS> I SAY WE GO BY PDT
00:50 <+TuxedoJack> ADAMB: OKAY, 95W. STILL CAN'T TAKE 220V 20A
00:50 < AustinS> haha MiLLERBOSS i still have this somewhere in storage
00:50 < AustinS> i should mail to you
00:50 <+TuxedoJack> AND NOW TO LET KITTENS INTO MY OFFICE
00:50 <+TuxedoJack> THIS SHOULD BE GOOD
00:50 < AustinS> https://austin.gg/ss/q6W2yGc.jpg
00:50 < MiLLERBOSS> YES AUSTINS
00:50 <+layer-eight> * AustinS →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 258,537 bytes
00:51 < MiLLERBOSS> SIGN ME UP AUSTINS
00:51 < AustinS> signed giant cover poster lmao
00:51 < AustinS> if i find it i may. idk how i would send that easily
00:51 < MiLLERBOSS> MAIL
00:52 < AustinS> its giant like.. 3 feet tall at least
00:52 < AustinS> mail people would ruin it, like my tv
00:53 < JollyRgrs> adamb: BUT HOW MANY AMPS?
00:53 < MiLLERBOSS> WHATS WRONG WITH THE TV?
00:53 < adamb> ERR
00:53 < adamb> WHATS 95 TIMES 48
00:53 < MiLLERBOSS> = YOURMOM
00:53 < adamb> 4500 AMPS, THAT SOUNDS WRONG
00:54 < Jekotia> GPO has an entry called "Windows Automatic Updates", and it's described as as "If you enable this setting, it prohibits Windows from searching for updates."
00:54 < Jekotia> Lol
00:54 < Jekotia> So backwards
00:54 < adamb> P=I/V
00:54 < adamb> GOTTIT
00:54 < adamb> 95/48 ~= 2 AMPS
00:56 < adamb> HAVING BEEN ON THE RECIEVING END OF 500 MILLIAMOS DC AT 40 VOLTS, THAT WAS PLENTY
00:56 < MiLLERBOSS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vv5CsP1pAg
00:56 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  YouTube → Sloth - Hey you guys! → ⚘ 1,116,015 ↑ 2,858 ↓ 157 ✍ 198
00:57 < adamb> AND TO ANSWER THE NEXT QUESTION, STUCK A LIVE PHONE LINE IN MY MOUTH
00:57 < genr8_> hot
00:57 < MiLLERBOSS> SEXU HOUT
00:58 < adamb> PRETTY MUCH HOW I WAS TALKING FOR THE NEXT HOUR YEAH
01:19 < JollyRgrs> adamb: OOH, SO I CAN CHARGE MY PHONE OVER PoE+ WITH RELATIVE SPEED
01:19 < ENIX> FOURTY MINUTES
01:19 < ENIX> I AM SO IMPRESSED AND A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH JOLLYRGRS
01:19 < JollyRgrs> JUST NEED A USB-C TO PoE ETHERNET ADAPTER
01:19 < ENIX> BRO DO YOU SLEEP
01:19 < JollyRgrs> LOL
01:19 < JollyRgrs> ENIX: WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
01:19 < JollyRgrs> IT'S 7:20PM
01:19 < MikeSpears> lol
01:19 < MikeSpears> nerds
01:19 < MikeSpears> JollyRgrs: want a GTX 1050?
01:19 < ENIX> WELL I LEFT HERE YESTERDAY, ABOUT 15-16 HOURS AGO, AND YOU WERE STILL ONLINE
01:20 < ENIX> 13 HOURS**
01:20 < ENIX> AND I GET IN TODAY AND YOU'RE STILL ONLINE
01:20 < JollyRgrs> adamb: BTW... GOT UNIFI CONTROLLER WORKING W/ MY LE WILDCARD CERT
01:20 < ENIX> IT'S CRAY CRAY
01:20 < adamb> sleep is for the dead
01:20 < JollyRgrs> ENIX: WELL, I WAS ON UNTIL ABOUT 1AM LAST NIGHT... GOT ON WHEN I GOT INTO WORK JUST AFTER 9AM
01:20 < JollyRgrs> AND I'M IN/OUT UNTIL I GO TO SLEEP
01:20 < ENIX> okay just times colliding well
01:21 < ENIX> so gpd pocket is looking for australian stockists
01:21 < ENIX> that is a super tempting proposition
01:21 < ENIX> i put a picture up in a buy/sell page I run and got snapchats like a day later of people saying 'fuck you i want one now'
01:22 < ENIX> Want a Windows 10 PC in your pocket? GPD's tiny laptop will also run Ubuntu
01:23 < ENIX> LOL GREAT TITLE
01:28 < Sousapro> HI EVERYONE
01:28 < Sousapro> HOW'S IT GOING?
01:28 < JollyRgrs> JUST FINE, HOW ABOUT YOU, Sousapro/
01:28 < JollyRgrs> ?
01:28 < ENIX> STILL CANT FIND A NEW COMPUTER BUT HEY THAT'S LIFE
01:28 < ENIX> WHAT'SSHAKIN SOUSAPRO
01:28 < Sousapro> WHAT THE HELL IS THIS CRAP ABOUT EUROPE AND GOOGLE GOING AT IT AGAIN?
01:28 < JollyRgrs> ?
01:29 < JollyRgrs> ARE YOU READING NEWS FROM THIS WEEK THAT IS NEW... OR NEWS FROM LAST WEEK... OR THE WEEK BEFORE... OR THE ONE BEFORE THAT... OR...
01:29 < ENIX> OR LAST YEAR
01:29 < Sousapro> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/07/09/google-may-have-make-major-changes-android-response-forthcoming-fine-europe/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ba3bcfc1c85f
01:29 <+layer-eight> * Sousapro →  Google could face record European Union antitrust fine for Android - The Washington Post
01:30 < ENIX> HOLY FUCKING ADVERTISEMENTS
01:30 < misspwn> O M G IS IT WEDNESDAY YET?
01:30 < Sousapro> Sorry, I haven't turned adblock off for over a decade
01:30 < JollyRgrs> ENIX: I THINK WAPO IS ONE OF THOSE WHO GIVES YOU ONLY X MANY STORIES A WEEK TO VIEW NOW...
01:30 < JollyRgrs> SO I DISABLED THEM FROM MY NEWS FEED B/C F THEM
01:31 < ENIX> LOL YEAH I HATE PAY WALLS
01:31 < adamb> misspwn: it is in england, and we invented time
01:31 < Sousapro> WHO HERE WOULD BUY AN ANDROID PHONE WITHOUT THE PLAY STORE
01:31 < misspwn> good i dont have to be in caps
01:31 < ENIX> I WROTE A PYTHON SCRIPT TO BYPASS IT AND SCRAPE CONTENT INTO A DATABASE ACTUALLY
01:31 < ENIX> I DONT HAVE TIME TO FINISH IT ANYMORE
01:31 < ENIX> AND IVE LOST THE CODE :(
01:31 < ENIX> BESIDES; THEY GOT CLEVER WITH IT.
01:31  * adamb hums god save the Queen
01:31 < Sousapro> AND BY WITHOUT THE PLAY STORE, I MEAN WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO INSTALL THE APP STORE
01:32 < Sousapro> it prevents consumers from purchasing “innovative smart mobile devices based on alternative, potentially superior, versions of the Android operating system
01:33 < Sousapro> Like fire os? LMAO
01:33 < adamb> s/Android/iOS
01:33 <+layer-eight> [SED adamb/Sousapro] it prevents consumers from purchasing “innovative smart mobile devices based on alternative, potentially superior, versions of the iOS operating system
01:34 < ENIX> YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD DO IF I WAS GOOGLE?
01:34 < ENIX> FUCK OFF EUROPE
01:34 < ENIX> DROP THE PROFITS, FUCK THE COUNTRY OFF, MAKE PEOPLE HATE THEIR GOVERNMENT
01:35 < adamb> Holding companies accountable for security, what barbarians the EU are
01:36 < ENIX> THATS NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT
01:36 < ENIX> THE FINE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR PRESSURING USERS TO USE GOOGLES SUITE
01:37 < adamb> oh right
01:37 < adamb> hm
01:37  * adamb informs himself
01:37 < ENIX> marking the second time in as many years that the region’s antitrust authorities have found that Google threatens corporate rivals and consumers.
01:37 < ENIX> IM CURIOUS ABOUT THAT STATEMENT THOUGH
01:37 < ENIX> SEEMS LIKE POOR EDITORIAL BUT HEY
01:38 < ENIX> KEEP IN MIND THESE ARTICLES ARE WRITTEN TO A SPECIFIC TONE TO SEMI-COVERTLY DISSUADE A READER TO FOLLOW THE PUBLICATIONS POLITICAL BIAS
01:38 < ENIX> THAT'S NOT TIN-FOIL HAT SHIT; IT'S WHAT ALL OUR PUBLICATIONS DID WHEN I WORKED IN MEDIA.
01:38 < adamb> fine looks a bit steep, but Google are doing exactly what Microsoft did from the sounds of it
01:39 < ENIX> OHHHHHH I THINK IT'S MORE THAT IF YOU WANT TO USE PLAY STORE YOU'RE FORCED TO INSTALL CHROME
01:39 < ENIX> AND USE GOOGLE SEARCH WITH ASSISTANT
01:39 < ENIX> SHIT I HAVE TO DO WORK
01:39 < ENIX> I NEED TO LOG OUT OF IRC TO DO THAT BECUASE IT'S SO DISTRACTING
01:39 < ENIX> BYE
01:39 <+CheckYourSix> Why is everyone talking in caps?
01:39 < adamb> It ws tuesday
01:40 < adamb> some people haven't noticed it's now wednesday
01:40 <+CheckYourSix> Not in 'Murica
01:59 < Sousapro> I need to get back in my bald eagle freedom cycle
01:59 < Sousapro> So I can fly my flag off the back
02:00 < Sousapro> https://www.amazon.com/Aimto-Step-Snek-Flag-3x5/dp/B076LXCK1X/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1531267203&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=no+step+on+snek+flag&psc=1
02:03 < L3gacy> MURICA!
02:11 < ebol4> BabyRage
02:21 < cipher6> But at least Miguel wasn't missing and shutting down your entire finance operation!
02:22 < jay-ros> Morning gents
02:23 <+DRGIBBY|> MAN, I'M STRIKING OUT WITH ALL OF THIS CISCO SHIT LATELY
02:23 <+DRGIBBY|> GOOD EVENING, JAY-ROS. I HOPE YOU ARE DOING WELL.
02:24 < jay-ros> HI DRGIBBY|
02:24 < jay-ros> IT'S WEDNESDAY - ARE WE STILL CAPPIN' IT UP?
02:24 < jay-ros> BIG MILLY STYLE?
02:25 <+DRGIBBY|> ITS STILL TUESDAYS WHERE IT MATTERS, MY FRIEND.
02:25 < jay-ros> FAIR ENOUGH
02:25 < jay-ros> I JUST HAD THE MOST AMAZING CITRIX CHAT CONVERSATION
02:25 <+DRGIBBY|> KIDDING, YOU MATTER TO US, JAY-ROS
02:25 <+DRGIBBY|> YOU SAID THE C WORD
02:26 <+DRGIBBY|> WE DONT SAY THE C WORD HERE ANYMORE, I WAS INFORMED OF THIS JUST TODAY
02:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> INTERNET FRIENDS
02:26 < jay-ros> "HEY, NEW CHROME UPDATES BLOCK C-WORD RECEIVER MESSAGES TO INITIATE A SESSION. C-WORD DIRECTOR SEES IT, BUT THE APP DON'T OPEN"
02:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> MY NEIGHBOR HAS A WIFI SPEAKER
02:26 < jay-ros> C-WORD GUY "PLEASE REFER TO THIS DOCUMENTATION"
02:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> WHAT SONG SHOULD I PLAY THROUGH IT
02:26 < McDonaldsWiFi> NOTHING -TOO- DIRTY LOL
02:27 < jay-ros> MCDONALDSWIFI - FIVE FINGER DEATH PUNCH - WASH IT ALL AWA
02:27 < jay-ros> AWAY*
02:27 < jay-ros> OR SLICE OF HEAVEN
02:27 <+DRGIBBY|> MCDONALDSWIFI: CARELESS WHISPER
02:28 < jay-ros> ANYWAY, DRGIBBY| SO C-WORD GUY SENDS ME A LEGACY DOCO, TO WHICH I SAID "I'D NEED TO ROLL BACK MY INFRASTRUCTURE 8 MONTHS TO GET THAT DOCO TO WORK. TRY HARDER YOU C-WORD"
02:28 < McDonaldsWiFi> jay-ros: FFDP fucking sucks
02:28 <+DRGIBBY|> WAIT DID YOU CALL HIM *THAT* C-WORD, OR JUST THE C-WORD?
02:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> DRGIBBY|: NOW THIS IS THE SHIT I'M LOOKING FOR
02:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> SOMETHING OFF THE WALL
02:29 < jay-ros> I CALLED HIM THE C WORD :p
02:29 < McDonaldsWiFi> jay-ros: also sorry lol
02:29 < monoxane> LOUD YELLING FOR NO GOOD REASON
02:29 < jay-ros> McDonaldsWiFi, I DON'T LISTEN TO THEM, YOU'RE FINE WITH ME
02:29 < jay-ros> :)
02:29 <+DRGIBBY|> PLEASE SEE TOPIC, MONOXANE
02:30 < monoxane> ITS WEDNESDAY HERE
02:30 < jay-ros> I JUST THOUGHT OF THE MOST OBNOXIOUS MUSIC STYLE TO PLAY
02:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> DRGIBBY|: I THIKN YOU WIN
02:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
02:30 < jay-ros> monoxane, ARE YOU IN AUSTRALIA?
02:30 <+DRGIBBY|> ITS STILL TUESDAY WHERE IT MATTERS
02:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> CARELESS WHISPER IT IS
02:30 < monoxane> YES I AM IN AUSTRLIALAND/DEATH ISLAND
02:30 < MikeSpears> FUCKING AUSSIES
02:30 <+DRGIBBY|> CARELESS WHISPER FTW
02:30 < jay-ros> SYDNEY REPRESENT!!
02:30 <+DRGIBBY|> OI M8S
02:30 <+DRGIBBY|> GO AWAY
02:30 < monoxane> MELBOURNE IS BETTER
02:30 < McDonaldsWiFi> LOL
02:30 < jay-ros> MELBOURNE IS FOR ARTY PEOPLE, NOT MY SCENE
02:30 < monoxane> HOUSES DONT COST 10 MILLION HERE
02:31 <+DRGIBBY|> I READ THAT AS DIRTY PEOPLE, NOT ARTY
02:31 < jay-ros> IT'S A NICE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT MY JAM. I'VE SPENT MY TIME THERE
02:31 <+DRGIBBY|> SAME DIFF, RIGHT JAY-ROS?
02:31 < MikeSpears> WTF IS WRONG WITH MY PHONE
02:31 < jay-ros> MIKESPEARS - WHAT'S THE SYMPTOMS?
02:32 < MikeSpears> IT WAS SAYING NOT REGISTERED ON NETWORK
02:32 < jay-ros> FORGET NETWORK, READD
02:32 < MikeSpears> lol
02:32 < MikeSpears> AS IN THE CELL NETWORK
02:32 < MikeSpears> REBOOTED IT, NOW IT'S ONLY GOT ONE BAR OF SIGNAL
02:33 < monoxane> SHITS FUCKED MATE
02:33 < McDonaldsWiFi> DRGIBBY|: srsly though, why did you have that in the chamber lol
02:33 < jay-ros> TAKE TWO OF THESE https://pasteboard.co/HtSSYyJ.png AND CALL ME IN THE MORNING
02:33 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros →  Pasteboard — Uploaded Image
02:33 <+DRGIBBY|> MCDONANDLSWIFI, PLEASE DON'T SHOUT.
02:33 <+DRGIBBY|> ALSO, I TROLL A LOCAL BAR WHO HAS TOUCHTUNES
02:33 <+DRGIBBY|> AND THEY'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET
02:34 <+DRGIBBY|> SO WHEN I FIND A SONG THATS GREAT LIKE CARELESS WHISPER, I'LL JUST PLAY IT
02:35 < Holo> FOREVER CAPS TUESDAY
02:35 <+DRGIBBY|> WE SHOULD DO THIS MORE OFTEN
02:35 < jay-ros> DRGIBBY IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOAD UP TOUCHTUNES WITH THE HUMAN LEAGUE - DON'T YOU WANT ME A HUNDRED TIMES?
02:35 <+DRGIBBY|> I LIKE MAKING PEOPLE ANGRY
02:36 < jay-ros> OR ERASURE - ALWAYS
02:36 < jay-ros> OR FOREIGNER - I WANT TO KNOW WHAT LOVE IS
02:36 < monoxane> OR TOTO - I WILL REMEMBER
02:36 < adamb> Achy Breaky Heart tbhe
02:36 < jay-ros> OR DEF LEPPARD - POUR SOME SUGAR ON ME
02:37 <+DRGIBBY|> I'LL HAVE TO CHECK, HOLD ON
02:37 < MikeSpears> I'M THINKING TOWER ISSUES, AS I ONLY HAVE 1 BAR NOW
02:37 < adamb> https://youtu.be/byQIPdHMpjc?t=21
02:37 < jay-ros> MIKESPEARS - IT'S PROBABLY TOWER ISSUES
02:37 <+layer-eight> * adamb →  ⚓  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byQIPdHMpjc&feature=youtu.be&t=21 → YouTube → Billy Ray Cyrus - Achy Breaky Heart → ⚘ 45,380,380 ↑ 160,895 ↓ 11,142 ✍ 12,570
02:40 < MikeSpears> LOL AND ITS WORKING NOW
02:40 < MikeSpears> WAS LIKELY TOWER PROBLEM
02:41 < jay-ros> THEY PROBABLY REBOOTED THE TOWER
02:41 < jay-ros> SHUTDOWN /R /T 1 /M \\LOCALTOWER.TELCO.LOCAL
02:41 <+DRGIBBY|> NONE OF THESE ARE GREAT TROLL SONGS LIKE CARELESS WHISPER IS
02:41 < MikeSpears> lol
02:42 <+DRGIBBY|> OR GREEN JELLO - 3 LITTLE PIGS
02:42 < jay-ros> DRGIBBY - WHAT ABOUT "WHAT A FEELING"
02:42 < jay-ros> YOU SEE, AT FIRST THERE WAS NOTHING BUT A SLOW GLOWING DREAM
02:43 <+DRGIBBY|> THIS COULD WORK, YEAH
02:43 < adamb> I got it
02:44 < adamb> Could be considered a war crime though
02:44 < adamb> Enqueue an hour of the ICP
02:44 < jay-ros> ADAMB - I CAN'T HEAR YOU, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK UP?
02:44 < adamb> Note: may not work in Southern america
02:44 < adamb> jay-ros: it's wednesday here
02:44 < jay-ros> ADAMB - ALEJANDRO SANS - AMIGA MIA WORKS IN SOUTH AMERICA
02:45 < jay-ros> ADAMB - YES BUT THIS IS GENERALLY A US-MODERATED CHANNEL
02:45 < jay-ros> IT'S WEDNESDAY HERE TOO, I'M IN SYDNEY
02:45 < adamb> Great, let's stage a coup and overthrow the yanks
02:45 < jay-ros> ON HUMP DAY? YOU'RE INSANE
02:46 <+DRGIBBY|> ALSO, A LOT OF MEME'D MUSIC MAKES GOOD TROLL SONGS OUTSIDE OF RICKROLLING
02:47 < jay-ros> LIKE WEEZER - OCEAN MAN
02:47 <+DRGIBBY|> A LA SUNSTROKE PROJECT - RUNAWAY
02:47 < adamb> DRGIBBY|: I don't think a jukebox is likely to have https://omfgdogs.com/
02:47 <+layer-eight> * adamb →  OMFGDOGS
02:47 <+DRGIBBY|> THEY DON'T NO, SADLY
02:47 < jay-ros> I THINK YOU GUYS ARE AMATEURS AND NEED TO STEP IT UP A NOTCH
02:48 < jay-ros> FIRST OF ALL: THERE'S A CAT CHRISTMAS ALBUM... A NUMBER OF THEM IN FACT
02:48 < jay-ros> https://www.amazon.com/Meowy-Christmas-Jingle-Cats/dp/B000001UEP
02:48 <+DRGIBBY|> ALSO WHATEVER FELDA'S SITE WAS IS GOOD TOO
02:49  * adamb notes down jingle cats for secret santa 2-18
02:49 < jay-ros> SECOND: SCATMAN (SKI BA BOP BA DOP BOP) IS ONLY ONE OF many SCATMAN JOHN SONGS FROM A NUMBER OF ALBUMS
02:49 < jay-ros> ...AND IT'S THE BEST ONE.
02:49 < jay-ros> SCATMAN'S WORLD IS MY FAVOURITE
02:49 <+DRGIBBY|> YES, SCATMAN JOHN IS GREAT TOO
02:50 < adamb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9LqRl7tqf4
02:50 <+layer-eight> * adamb →  YouTube → Jingle Cats Silent Night → ⚘ 4,997,775 ↑ 18,567 ↓ 974 ✍ 2,445
02:50 < adamb> This is the greatest thing I've seen all week
02:50 <+DRGIBBY|> AND ENYA - ONLYTIME
02:50 < McDonaldsWiFi> Is there a way to activate office 365 suite from powershell?
02:51 <+DRGIBBY|> BAG RAIDERS - SHOOTING STARS
02:51 <+DRGIBBY|> FUCKING SANDSTORM TOO
02:51 < jay-ros> ADAMB - IT'S HORRIFIC AND AMAZING
02:51 < JollyRgrs> McDonaldsWiFi: vbs
02:51 < jay-ros> AND I BELIEVE IT'S ON SPOTIFY
02:52 < monoxane> MIDNIGHT OIL - BEDS ARE BURNING
02:52 < adamb> Sandstorm is pretty good, I could listen to that for an hour
02:52 < adamb> Scatman John too
02:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> JollyRgrs: yeah I've seeing that on google but this is using a subscription instead of key..
02:52 <+DRGIBBY|> MOST BAR PATRONS DISLIKE IT THOUGH
02:52 < McDonaldsWiFi> can you activate it with 365 creds with some black magic?
02:52 < jay-ros> MONOXANE - ONCE AGAIN - STEP IT UP A NOTCH. YOTHU YINDI - TREATY YEAH
02:52 <+DRGIBBY|> WHICH IS THE POINT
02:52 <+DRGIBBY|> IMOGEN HEAP - HIDE AND SEEK
02:52 < adamb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
02:52 <+layer-eight> * adamb →  YouTube → Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like a Record) (Official Video) → ⚘ 90,427,542 ↑ 569,726 ↓ 20,983 ✍ 60,674 → * Content Restrictions
02:52 < adamb> Yessss
02:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> god im so pissed
02:54 <+DRGIBBY|> KIRIN J CALLMAN - BIG ENOUGH
02:54 < McDonaldsWiFi> I'm getting this stupid shit error "sorry we are having some temporary server issues" so I can't sign in to activate this thing
02:56 <+DRGIBBY|> I HATE FRUSTRATING ERRORS LIKE THAT
02:57 < McDonaldsWiFi> yeah im gonna pull my hair out lol
02:57 <+DRGIBBY|> IF YOU WANT TO TRADE, YOU CAN FIX A SIP TUNNEL ISSUE OR A SERVICE MODULE I'M HAVING
02:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> fuckkkkk
02:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> no ty
02:58 <+DRGIBBY|> PLS
02:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> fucking activation fixer cab didn't work either
02:58 <+DRGIBBY|> PLS SEND HELP
02:58 < McDonaldsWiFi> wtf is a SIP tunnel
02:59 < misspwn> daaaaaaaaaaaang
02:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> a stunnel?
02:59 < McDonaldsWiFi> lol
02:59 <+DRGIBBY|> PLS. SEND HELP
02:59 < misspwn> ISNT SIP TUNNEL FOR PHONE
02:59 <+DRGIBBY|> IT IS, YES, MISSPWN
02:59 < misspwn> GR8 I KNOW SOMETHING
02:59  * DRGIBBY| CLAPS
02:59 < misspwn> I AM ALMOST 3CX CERT
02:59 < misspwn> JUST HAVENT HAD TIME TO TAKE EXAM
03:00 < misspwn> I'LL TRUNK U
03:00 < misspwn> WITH MY DID'S
03:00 < misspwn> AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE WITH PHONES
03:00 <+DRGIBBY|> ACTUALLY RE/SONGS MONOXANE ANY TOTO SONG IS PURE GOLD
03:01 < monoxane> I USE `I WILL REMEMBER` AS MY SOUNDCHECK SONG FOR WHEN I DO STUFF ON A NEW PA OR STUDIO SYSTEM
03:01 < monoxane> IVE LISTENED TO IT SO MANY TIMES I CAN TELL WHATS WRONG WITH THE SPEAKERS JUST FROM IT
03:01 <+DRGIBBY|> THATS APHEX TWIN - WINDOWLICKER FOR ME
03:04 <+DRGIBBY|> ALSO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvS351QKFV4
03:04 <+layer-eight> * DRGIBBY| →  YouTube → Dschinghis Khan - Moskau 1979 → ⚘ 40,129,400 ↑ 285,906 ↓ 8,533 ✍ 32,957
03:06 < misspwn> I HAD MY 1 MONTH LASIK CHECK UP AND I AM STILL SEEING 20/15, SO RAD
03:06 <+DRGIBBY|> WOOHOO
03:06 <+DRGIBBY|> YAY FOR NOT BEING BLIND!
03:07 < misspwn> HAHA YEAH I WAS TECHNICALLY LEGALLY BLIND. MY VISION WAS 20/500
03:07 <+DRGIBBY|> WOW!
03:15  * XV8 drinks heavily as his management hires more and more people with 0 qualifications for being a Jr Sysadmin and should literally just start off in helpdesk
03:16 < Ayeitzabee> ARE WE REALLY STILL SHOUTING?
03:16 < XV8> I just had someone on the night team call my phone asking me how to do something so fucking basic that google could have answered the question and I had to explain what the fuck a unit size is in terms of rack and stack duties, fuck my life
03:17 <+DRGIBBY|> AYEITZABEE, WE'RE JUST TALKING NORMALLY
03:17 < jay-ros> XV8 - I'LL TRADE YOURS FOR MINE
03:18 < jay-ros> SERIOUSLY THOUGH, I'LL MAKE THE TRADE. ON THE SPOT.
03:18 < Ayeitzabee> DRGIBBY| IS IT EVEN TUESDAY ANYMORE?
03:18 <+DRGIBBY|> I'M WILLING TO TRADE MY ISSUES, TOO
03:18 <+DRGIBBY|> AYEITZABEE YES, WHERE IT MATTERS
03:18 < coderphive> hello
03:18 < coderphive> can we stop screaming?
03:18 < jay-ros> HI CODERPHIVE
03:18 <+DRGIBBY|> HELLO CODERPHRIVE
03:18 < Ayeitzabee> NO WE CAN'T
03:18 < jay-ros> HYPOTHETICALLY? YES
03:19 < coderphive> I can hear you guys from my living room
03:19 < Ayeitzabee> PHYSICALLY, NO
03:19 < jay-ros> CAN YOU HEAR ME IN YOUR BEDROOM, IS THE MAIN QUESTION TO ASK
03:19 <+DRGIBBY|> WE'RE NOT SCREAMING, WE'RE TALKING NORMALLY AND FOLLOWING CHANNEL RULES
03:19 < Ayeitzabee> WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING CODERPHIVE?
03:19 < coderphive> is this a CRYPTIC1 rule?
03:19 < coderphive> I smell CRYPTIC1
03:19 <+DRGIBBY|> ITS A R-S RULE
03:19 < coderphive> lies
03:20  * coderphive sets mode +b CRYPTIC1 
03:20 < Ayeitzabee> BANT THE NON-BELIEVER
03:20 < jay-ros> THIS IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY OF SPEAKING, CODERPHIVE. LIMITING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE HALVES THE NUMBER OF LATIN CHARACTERS USED, EXPIDITES THE PROCESS OF PROPER NOUN CAPITALISATION, AND ALLOWS THE USER TO PRESS LESS KEYS ON THE KEYBOARD, LIMITING THE RISKS OF RSI
03:20 < jay-ros> YOU COULD ALMOST SAY IT'S.... BEST PRACTISE
03:20  * coderphive pulls out gun
03:20 < coderphive> say that again
03:21 < coderphive> SAY IT AGAIN
03:21 < Ayeitzabee> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
03:21 < jay-ros> LESS KEYS ON THE KEYBOARD
03:22 < coderphive> I DOUBLE DARE YOU MOTHA FUCKA
03:22 < coderphive> SAY BEST PRACTISE ONE MORE GOD DAMN TIME
03:22 < jay-ros> THE INHERANT USELESSNESS OF THE SHIFT KEYS WOULD WARRANT A 5% DECREASE IN KEYBOARD MAIN-AREA SPACE (TWO KEYS NOT ONE), WHICH COULD BE HOT-PROGRAMMED FOR CUSTOM KEYS, EASIER TO REACH THAN THE F# KEYS, AND THEREFORE EVEN MORE MITIGATED STRAIN ON THE WRISTS
03:22 < Ayeitzabee> TLDR; MEANS BEST CURRENT PRACTISE
03:22 < jay-ros> OOOOOOH HE DID IT!
03:23 < BurningSmile> Why are all of the messages in caps?
03:23  * jay-ros GAWKS AT THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES OF AYEITZABEE'S ACTIONS
03:23 < JollyRgrs> BurningSmile: BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN READ
03:23 < JollyRgrs> /TOPIC
03:23 < Ayeitzabee> ^^
03:23 < jay-ros> ^^
03:23 < BurningSmile> LOL SORRY.
03:23 < JollyRgrs> NO PROBLEM
03:23 < JollyRgrs> I CAN HEAR YOU MUCH BETTER NOW :p
03:23 <@CRYPTIC1> PLEASE FOLLOW THE RULES
03:23 <@CRYPTIC1> THANK YOU
03:23 <+DRGIBBY|> HELLO CRYPTIC1
03:24 <@CRYPTIC1> HELLO DRGIBBY|
03:24 <+DRGIBBY|> I HOPE YOU ARE DOING WELL
03:24 <@CRYPTIC1> I AM YOU TOO
03:24 < jay-ros> I FEEL THAT THE PHASE-OUT OF THE LOWER CASE TEXT IS THE NEXT STAGE IN HUMAN EVOLUTION. THE ROMANS DID IT, THE GREEKS DID IT, AND I CAN FEEL A LINGUISTIC CHANGE IN THE AIR
03:24 < jay-ros> IT ALL STARTS FROM #REDDIT-SYSADMIN
03:24 <@CRYPTIC1> JOLLYRGRS STOP PLAYING ROCKET LEAGUE IT IS BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH
03:24 <+DRGIBBY|> AS IS FORTNITE
03:25 < Ayeitzabee> SHOULDN'T THE TOPIC BE CAPS ONLY WEDNESDAY NOW?
03:25 <+DRGIBBY|> NO
03:25 <+DRGIBBY|> ITS STILL TUESDAY WHERE IT MATTERS, DAMMIR
03:25 <+DRGIBBY|> DAMMIT*
03:25 < misspwn> XV8, WHAT IS A UNIT SIZE
03:25 < jay-ros> NOT FOR ANOHTER 3 HOURS 35 MINUTES
03:26 < Ayeitzabee> DRGIBBY| https://robertlovespi.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/how-america-sees-the-world.png
03:26 <+layer-eight> * Ayeitzabee →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 4,983 bytes
03:26 <+DRGIBBY|> ALSO, EVERYONE IN A COMMIE-FREE TIMEZONE
03:27 < jay-ros> THAT'S A BIG SLICE OF THE AMERICAN PIE THERE AYEITZABEE
03:27  * DRGIBBY| LOOKS TO CANADIA
03:27 < AustinS> not big enuff
03:27 < jay-ros> YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY... GIVE THEM AN INCH, THEY TAKE 1.60934KM
03:27 < jay-ros> `/JOKE
03:28 <+DRGIBBY|> HOW ARE YOU USE COMMIE UNITS
03:28 < JollyRgrs> DRGIBBY|: HE WAS PART OF THE COMMIE KANGAS KIDS CLUB
03:28 <+DRGIBBY|> S/ARE/DARE
03:28 <+DRGIBBY|> THE CKKC?
03:28 <+DRGIBBY|> FUCKING COMMIES MAN
03:28 < JollyRgrs> YUP, THE VERY SAME
03:29 < JollyRgrs> I TOLD YOU THAT WAS A RED KANGAROO!
03:29 < jay-ros> DRGIBBY|, IT'S EASY... ONE MILILITRE IS 1/1000 OF A LITER. 1 MILLIGRAM I 1/1000 OF A GRAM
03:29 <+DRGIBBY|> COMMIE
03:29 <+DRGIBBY|> UNITS
03:29 <+DRGIBBY|> SOUND THE ALARM
03:29 <+DRGIBBY|> WE'RE BEING INVADED
03:29 < JollyRgrs> jay-ros: AND YOU HAVE TO SET YOUR AIR CONDITIONER TO TENTHS OF A DEGREE
03:29 < JollyRgrs> "MAN, IT FEELS LIKE 20.5 c OUTSIDE TODAY"
03:29 < jay-ros> 1 MILLILITRE OF WATER IS CUBIC CENTIMETER IN VOLUME
03:30 < Ayeitzabee> ARE THE WINDOWS ACTIVATION SERVERS STILL FKN DOWN???
03:30 <+DRGIBBY|> BUILD A WALL TO KEEP THE COMMIES OUT
03:30 < jay-ros> WATER BOILS AT 100 DEGREES CELCIUS
03:30 < JollyRgrs> Ayeitzabee: BY THAT YOU MEAN YOUR OWN KMS SERVER?
03:30  * DRGIBBY| SCREAMS
03:30 < JollyRgrs> jay-ros: NOT TRUE IN ALL SITUATIONS
03:30 <+DRGIBBY|> SOMETHING SOMETHING ALTITUDE
03:30 < JollyRgrs> AND SALINITY
03:31 < jay-ros> JOLLYRGRS - PURE WATER.
03:31 < jay-ros> LIKE PELEGRINO
03:31 < blinkingprompt> so....if your disks are using erasure code
03:31 < blinkingprompt> does that mean backups are redundant
03:31 <+DRGIBBY|> WHY ARE YOU YELLING, BLINKINGPROMPT?
03:31 < jay-ros> FUN FACT: APPARENTLY VOSS WATER IS LIKE 18 BUCKS A BOTTLE IN RUSSIA - IT'S HIGH TIER QUALITY
03:31 < Ayeitzabee> SHUNNED
03:32 < jay-ros> I HAD TWO BOTTLES NEXT TO MY BED (SLEEPING WATER) AND MY GIRLFRIEND, WHO HADN'T SEEN IT IN AUSTRALIA, THOUGHT I WAS LOADED
03:32 < blinkingprompt> so....if your disks are using erasure code
03:32 < blinkingprompt> wait
03:32 < blinkingprompt> SO...IF YOUR DISKS ARE USING ERASURE CODE
03:32 < blinkingprompt> DOES THAT MEAN YOU DONT NEED BACKUPS
03:32 < Ayeitzabee> I WAS ABOUT TO SAY
03:32 < blinkingprompt> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
03:33 < Ayeitzabee> I JUST HAVE MY CAPS TURN ON WHEN I CLICK ON THE HEXCHAT WINDOW
03:33 <+DRGIBBY|> BLINKINGPROMPT: NO, IT GENERALLY MEANS YOU HAVE DATA SAFE FROM BEING ERASED
03:33 < blinkingprompt> SO NO BACKUPS AT ALL YOU SAY
03:33 < misspwn> jay-ros, YOU ARE RICH FOR HAVING TWO VOSS WATERS
03:33 < misspwn> WE ARE COMING FOR YOU
03:33 < Ayeitzabee> BACKUPS ARE FOR NOOBS
03:33 < Ayeitzabee> REAL SYSADMINS RUN ON RAM ONLY
03:33 < xe0n> sleeping water?
03:33 < xe0n> loll
03:33 < blinkingprompt> I ONLY WORK FOR STARTUPS THAT NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY SO WE NEVER WORRY ABOUT BACKUPS YOLO
03:34 < JollyRgrs> "Supporters of the Fahrenheit scale note that a degree on the Fahrenheit scale is the temperature change that the average person can detect."
03:34 < jay-ros> XE0N - WELL WAKE-UP-DURING-SLEEPING-HOURS
03:34 < misspwn> WELL IF YOU HAVE A GLASS OF WATER WITHOUT A LID IT TASTE NOT SO GOOD WHEN SITTING. jay-ros IS SMART FOR HAVING SLEEPING WATER WITH A LID
03:34 < blinkingprompt> I THINK STARTING 64 DOCKER CONTAINERS BROKE MUH SHIT
03:34 < misspwn> ERGO, jay-ros IS RICH
03:34 < Ayeitzabee> I JUST USE A OLD COKE BOTTLE FOR MY SLEEPING WATER
03:34 < Ayeitzabee> AN*
03:35 < jay-ros> JOLLYRGRS - BUT THE ISSUE IS, MOST US CITIZENS ARE CONSIDERED BELOW-AVERAGE IN GENERAL INTELLIGENCE, CULTURE AND ATTITUDE
03:35 < JollyRgrs> Ayeitzabee:  I DO THE SAME THING
03:35 < JollyRgrs> WATER BOTTLE, POWERADE BOTTLE... SOMETHING W/ A CAP
03:35  * Ayeitzabee HIGH-FIVES JollyRgrs 
03:35 < blinkingprompt> jay-ros: DO YOU DRINK COSMOPOLITANS
03:35 < JollyRgrs> jay-ros: ERM... MAYBE IN YOUR COUNTRY YOU THINK THAT
03:36 < JollyRgrs> JUST LIKE HERE, WE THINK ALL AUSSIES ARE ... crazy
03:36 <+DRGIBBY|> WHY AM I WATCHING MARCHING BAND VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE?
03:37 <+DRGIBBY|> THEY ALL *ARE* CRAZY
03:37 < JollyRgrs> DRGIBBY|: OOH, WATCH SOME MARCHING CHIEFS (FSU)
03:37 <+DRGIBBY|> FUCK FSU
03:37 <+DRGIBBY|> <3
03:37 < JollyRgrs> EITHER THAT, OR THE COOL ONES WHERE THEY DO LIKE... PLAY PONG ON THE FIELD
03:37 < JollyRgrs> /KICK DRGIBBY|
03:37 < JollyRgrs> DON'T BE JELLY
03:37 <+DRGIBBY|> THESE ARE FLASHMOD MARCHING BANDS
03:37 <+DRGIBBY|> FLASHMOB
03:37 <+DRGIBBY|> WHICH I THINK ARE REALLY GOOD
03:37 <+DRGIBBY|> WISH I COULD BE A PART OF ONE TBH
03:38 <+DRGIBBY|> HARD TO CONCEAL A LARGE BASSDRUM
03:40 < blinkingprompt> I AM WATCHING BOTS ATTACK MY NETWORK IN REAL TIME
03:40 < blinkingprompt> I HAVE TO SAY, CHINA, RUSSIA AND BRAZIL GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND CLEAN YOUR ROOMS FFS
03:42 < JollyRgrs> blinkingprompt: I JUST BLOCKED OTHER COUNTRY IPS FOR MY OWN HOUSE, LOL
03:42 < JollyRgrs> YEAH... I DID THAT
03:42 < blinkingprompt> that's a good idea
03:42 <+DRGIBBY|> THATS JUST ME USING A CHINESE AND BRAZIL PROXY
03:43 <+DRGIBBY|> MY B
03:43 < JollyRgrs> lol
03:43 < blinkingprompt> there are some very specific ip blocks in those countries every company should block
03:43 < Ayeitzabee> I JUST BLOCK PUTIN
03:43 < blinkingprompt> basically
03:43 < blinkingprompt> RUSSIA/32
03:43 < Ayeitzabee> SPECIFICALLY HIM
03:43 <+DRGIBBY|> EVERYTHING EXCEPT US
03:43 <+DRGIBBY|> OR, NA
03:43 < Ayeitzabee> OR AU
03:43 < blinkingprompt> no block AU
03:44 < blinkingprompt> they don't attack but you just get shit posts
03:44 <+DRGIBBY|> GOTTA KEEP THE SYRUP FIENDS HAPPY
03:44 < jay-ros> blinkingprompt, NO, I'M A MOJITO, CAPTAIN MORGAN OR PERONI KIND OF GUY
03:44 < Ayeitzabee> I JUST DRINK GOON
03:44 < Ayeitzabee> I AM KIDDING I CAN'T STOMACH THE STUFF
03:44 < jay-ros> RED WINE GOON IS THE ONLY ONE I CAN HANDLE NOWDAYS
03:45 < jay-ros> TOO MANY TIMES FALLING ASLEEP ON THE FLOOR AT MY DOOR ENTRANCE IN MY UNDERPANTS WITH MY JEANS AROUND MY ANKLES ON THE WAY TO BED WHEN I WAS AT UNI
03:45 < Ayeitzabee> I HAVE GOTTEN TOO FUCKED UP ON IT IN THE PAST, GOON+MOONSHINE=FLOOR
03:45 < Ayeitzabee> MY MATE PISSED ON HIS FLOOR AFTER DRINKING A WHOLE GOON BAG LAST WEEKEND jay-ros
03:45 < jay-ros> I'M IN MY EARLY 30S NOW, SO MOST OF THE TIME I'M MORE INCLINED TO FIND MYSELF A REASONABLY PRICED BOTTLE OF CABERNET MERLO
03:46 < jay-ros> MERLOT*
03:46 < Ayeitzabee> GENTLEMAN JACK IS THE REAL SHIT
03:46 <+DRGIBBY|> I'VE STOPPED WATCHING MARCHING BAND VIDEOS BECAUSE I REALIZED THEY'RE A MUDDY MESS WHEN NOT DONE RIGHT AND ITS GIVING ME PTSD
03:46 < jay-ros> SPIRITS MAKE ME WANT TO PARTY
03:46 < jay-ros> I LIKE TO PARTY, BUT IF I'M DRINKING AT HOME WITH THE GIRL I STICK TO MELLOWS
03:47 <+DRGIBBY|> S/MELLOWS/FOSTERS
03:47 < JollyRgrs> IF IT'S MELLOW, LET IT YELLOW?
03:47 < Ayeitzabee> HAVE YOU EVEN HAD A CHICK THAT DRINKS STRAIGHT VODKA, THAT SHIT IS SCARY
03:47 < coderphive> jesus
03:47 < jay-ros> CALMING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
03:47 < coderphive> still caps?
03:47 < Ayeitzabee> ITS BEST PRACTISE
03:47 < JollyRgrs> ONLY 9:47PM EDT
03:47 <+DRGIBBY|> WHY ARE YOU YELLING, CODERPHRIVE?
03:47 < jay-ros> CODERPHIVE - IT'S STLL 9.47 IN THE US IN SOME PLACES
03:47 < JollyRgrs> IT IS STILL TUESDAY, CHANNEL TIME
03:47 < JollyRgrs> jay-ros: THAT'S THE LATEST IT IS IN THE US
03:48 < JollyRgrs> IN CALIFORNIA, IT IS ONLY 6:47
03:48 < jay-ros> JOLLYRGRS - EVEN HAWAII?
03:48 < JollyRgrs> HAWAII IS FURTHER BEHIND THAN THAT
03:48 < jay-ros> OH I SEE... THIS IS GONNA TAKE A WHIL
03:48 < jay-ros> WHILE*
03:48 < JollyRgrs> I THINK THEY ARE 5 HRS BEHIND EASTERN?
03:48 < JollyRgrs> LOL
03:48 <+DRGIBBY|> ITS CURRENTLY 3:48PM IN HAWAII
03:48 < Ayeitzabee> ACTUALLY YALL WRONG
03:48 < jay-ros> ACTUALLY JollyRgrs THERE IS ANOTHER US LOCATION
03:48 < Ayeitzabee> card.freenode.net :Wednesday July 11 2018 -- 01:48:14 +00:00
03:48 < jay-ros> MORE EAST OF YOU
03:48 < Ayeitzabee> SERVER USES UTC
03:48 < jay-ros> IN SAMOA
03:48 < Ayeitzabee> So it is Wednesday :D
03:48 < JollyRgrs> Ayeitzabee: I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PUERTO RICO OR OTHER TERITORIES
03:48 <+DRGIBBY|> *YOUR* SERVER USES UTC
03:49 < jay-ros> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Samoa
03:49 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros →  American Samoa - Wikipedia
03:49 < JollyRgrs> SAMOA IS IN PACIFIC, NO?
03:49 < Ayeitzabee> Do /time and see what is says :D
03:49 < jay-ros> 2:49 pm
03:49 < jay-ros> THAT'S THE EARLIEST AMERICAN TIMEZONE... IT'S 60KM FROM NON-AMERICAN SAMOA, WHICH IS 23 HOURS AHEAD
03:50 < bmurt> YAY! almost time to start my conference call at 10pm
03:51 < jay-ros> https://pasteboard.co/HtToAkO.png
03:51 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros →  Pasteboard — Uploaded Image
03:51 < jay-ros> THAT'S THE TWO ISLANDS. YOU COULD CELEBRATE NYE TWICE THERE AND HAVE TIME TO SLEEP
03:51 <+DRGIBBY|> THERE ARE ACTUALLY THERE ISLANDS THERE
03:51 < bmurt> DRGIBBY|: you're spelling blows
03:51 < bmurt> ;)
03:52 <+DRGIBBY|> BMURT: YOU'RE A CUNT
03:52 < bmurt> that dere spelling dere
03:52 <+DRGIBBY|> SO I MEAN
03:52 <+DRGIBBY|> IT EVENS OUT
03:53 < Ayeitzabee> Rip
03:55 <+DRGIBBY|> J/K <3 BMURT
03:57 < bmurt> nope
03:57 < bmurt> go play in traffic DRGIBBY|
03:57 < bmurt> and i mean it
03:57 < bmurt> !g current time sydney
03:58 <+DRGIBBY|> THATS NOT NICE, BMURT
03:58 <+DRGIBBY|> !op-request kickban bmurt
03:59 < Ayeitzabee> Dam the time has flown
03:59 < Ayeitzabee> Is nearly lunch <3
04:00 < cipher6> SO IM PLAYING WEAPONS GUARD ON ARMY TIME AND THE CMDR JUST BROUGHT ME A THERMOS OF RUMCHATTA.AND COFFEE. I THINK HE WANTS ME TO.STAY
04:00 <+DRGIBBY|> MIX THEM TOGETHER
04:01 < Ayeitzabee> ^^^^
04:01 < cipher6> No they are.mixed.
04:02 < jay-ros> AYEITZABEE - I'VE BEEN READING BOHF BLOG, PLAYING SWAMSIM AND SHOOTING OFF EMAILS ALL MORNING, I BARELY FEEL LIKE I'VE ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING TODAY
04:02 <+DRGIBBY|> GOOD, CIPHER6. DRINK UP.
04:02 < jay-ros> BUT I'M WAITING ON MY MANAGER ON A TELSTRA CALL TO CONFIRM THE NEW CONFIGURATIONS THAT I SUGGESTED (VIA GOOGLE) TO OUR MPLS
04:02 < cipher6> Its perfect. Someone had.the foresight to bring powdered coffee, pwdr milk, and rumchatta to a field ex.
04:02 < Ayeitzabee> My day has consisted of reading reddit, looking into how to run a local KMS and now I am imaging a server to run KMS :D jay-ros
04:03 <+DRGIBBY|> SOMEONE WAS THINKING AHEAD
04:03 < cipher6> Drgibby I AM, some how.a week of machine gun ranges has resulted in no MG range bc someone fucked up the risk assessment
04:03 < jay-ros> AND ADJUSTMENTS TO THE THIRD PARTY MANAGED ROUTER CONFIGURATIONS ON BOTH SIDES TO REMOVE ALL OF THE CRAP FROM PREVIOUS CONFIGURATIONS, DMZS, QOS AND ROUTES FROM OUTDATED SITE ADDRESSES
04:04 < cipher6> So we're just camping in the woods on gov $$$
04:05 < jay-ros> AYEITZABEE - I NEED TO GO THROUGH MY NEW CITRI.... C-WORD CONFIGURATION AND BREAK-TEST IT, BUT I NEED THE TEAM ON IT
04:05 < jay-ros> SO I'M WAITING FOR THE GUYS TO HAVE SOME FREE TIME TO CROWDSOURCE THE TESTING
04:06 < jay-ros> OTHERWISE IT'S ME, WITH MY LOGIN, AND MY TEST ACCOUNT (I HAVE A DOMAIN USER 'TEST TESTERSON, LEAD TESTER') TO SEE IF IT WORKS PROPERLY
04:06 < jay-ros> LEGIT USER ACCOUNT, MANAGER THINKS IT'S HILARIOUS... HE ASKED ME WHY I STILL HAVE IT AND I TOLD HIM 'BECAUSE YOU ORIGINALLY SET ME UP AS A DOMAIN ADMIN, WHICH MEANS EVERYTHING ALWAYS WORKS FOR ME"
04:08 <+CheckYourSix> How many of you think that things like Ancestry DNA, 23 and me, etc. are nothing more than fronts for the NSA/CIA/etc to collect everyone's DNA?
04:08 < coderphive> CheckYourSix: it's actually illegal for them to do that
04:08 < genr8_> they already collect your DNA if you go to jail or commit a felony
04:08 < coderphive> That case is being fought out in CA iirc
04:08 < kenrin> or sign up for the military
04:08 <+CheckYourSix> coderphive: They've been caught doing illegal shit before...
04:09 < coderphive> tru
04:09 < coderphive> also
04:09  * coderphive sets mode +b JollyRgrs 
04:09  * JollyRgrs stares
04:09 <+DRGIBBY|> DO IT
04:09 < abakedapplepie> when you get one of those kits you sign over all rights to your genetic info
04:09 < mcj> LOL
04:09 < abakedapplepie> tbh
04:09 < mcj> LOLLLLLL
04:09  * JollyRgrs STARING INTENSIFIES!!!!
04:09 < catbeard> omfg this guy is ridic, he's liek fix my wp nao, i'm like nou, gief credz
04:09 <+DRGIBBY|> WHY ARE YOU ALL YELLING?
04:09 < genr8_> blame enix
04:10 < mcj> DO IT NOW
04:10 < abakedapplepie> DRGIBBY| SORRY MY CAPS LOCK WAS ON
04:10 <+CheckYourSix> I really want to do the Ancestry DNA one, but I can't get beyond the paranoia of it
04:10 <+DRGIBBY|> THANK YOU ABAKEDAPPLEPIE
04:10 < catbeard> he no give credz and iz like sryno not doing it without credz
04:10 <+CheckYourSix> abakedapplepie: Wouldn't surprise me
04:10 <+DRGIBBY|> STOP YELLING!
04:10 < abakedapplepie> CheckYourSix: NO REALLY, THEY OWN IT. ITS HOW THEY STAY IN BUSINESS
04:10 < catbeard> TODAY IS OPPOSITE DAY
04:10 < abakedapplepie> SELLING GENETIC INFORMATION
04:10 < abakedapplepie> ITS RIGHT IN THE TERMS
04:11 < catbeard> to the state dept no less and other 3 letter friends
04:11 < genr8_> whats it matter though. its the same as having your fingerprint biometrics out there in Siri waiting for them to be hacked and unable to use your own fingerprint anymore
04:13 < jay-ros> genr8_, or boob photos if you're a celebrity
04:13 < jay-ros> on icloud
04:25 < wac> I've got a glass of green spot. That makes this more bearable.
04:25 < abakedapplepie> well i trust apple with my security at least
04:26 < abakedapplepie> since theyre literally the only company that actively works for your privacy
04:26 < abakedapplepie> and fights against government incursion
04:26 < kenrin> I don't think you know what literally means
04:26 < abakedapplepie> ok, theyre the only big company that actively works for your privacy
04:27 < abakedapplepie> you got amazon enabling mass surveilance, and google and microsoft couldnt give two shits
04:28 < gnupluslinux> mfw JollyRgrs steps in poo
04:33 <+DRGIBBY|> gnupluslinux: hHE ROLLS AROUND IN IT
04:41 < coderphive> I've shaved my head and it feels so good
04:41 < coderphive> also
04:41  * coderphive kicks JollyRgrs (JollyRgrs)
04:42 <+DRGIBBY|> CODERPHIVE, THERE IS NOTHING BETTER THAN A FRESH SHAVED HEAD
04:42 < coderphive> This is basically gospel
04:43 < coderphive> Handed down by Stone Cold himself
04:43 < jay-ros> I shave the sides of my head and leave the top long
04:43 < coderphive> def not best practise
04:43 < jay-ros> not clean shaven, clippers at #1 size
04:44 < xe0n> #2 here
04:44 < coderphive> It's not a real shave unless it's to the skin
04:44 < coderphive> fact
04:44 < xe0n> trim
04:44 <+DRGIBBY|> DELICIOUS MILLER, EVEN
04:44 <+DRGIBBY|> RIP STONE COLD
04:44 <+DRGIBBY|> I SHAVE TWICE A WEEK. SATURDAY MORNINGS AND WEDNESDAY MORNINGS.
04:45 < coderphive> first of all
04:45 < coderphive> Stone Cold is still alive
04:45 <+DRGIBBY|> FEELS GREAT TO HAVE A TIGHT HEAD
04:45 <+DRGIBBY|> RIP STEVE
04:46 < coderphive> https://www.instagram.com/p/BlEpWjKHhoq/?igshid=12aabbqp6h6uh
04:46 <+layer-eight> * coderphive →  halsey on Instagram: “🚲 MY BITCH RIDE AN ALL TEAL BIKE *yg voice* 🚲”
04:46 < coderphive> I just wanna say
04:46 < coderphive> My wife looks great on that teal bike
04:48 < genr8_> i never know what halsey looks like cause she's a chameleon
04:51 < jay-ros> talking to my greek coworker about alternatives to hummus....
04:51 < jay-ros> https://omgfood.com/skordalia/
04:51 < jay-ros> potato and raw garlic... I'm interested
04:51 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros →  Skordalia (Greek Potato and Garlic Dip) | OMGfood
04:51 < monoxane> networking people, i need ~10 10gbit ports and ~30 1gbit ports, should i just look for a used chassis switch or get 2 stackable?
04:51 < monoxane> its gonna be used either way because budget, whats better off in the long term and with initial price?
04:52 < sideup66> sooo
04:52 < jay-ros> monoxane, I think I saw something on fs that would accommodate
04:52 < sideup66> tomorrow im picking up a router from cl
04:52 < sideup66> goes for 50
04:52 < sideup66> my guess being "new in box" it fell off the back of a truck
04:52 < sideup66> but someone needs a router i can mod with firmware...got it for 20 bucks
04:52 < sideup66> archer c59
04:52 < sideup66> #winning
04:52 < monoxane> jay-ros yea but isn't fs really DC central?
04:53 <+DRGIBBY|> monoxane: port speeds are like 1/3rd the total equation
04:53 <+DRGIBBY|> you need a blackplane that can support it
04:53 < jay-ros> if you're running 10gb wouldn't you be leaning that way?
04:53 <+DRGIBBY|> 2x 48 port EOL aristas man
04:53 < jay-ros> ^
04:53 <+DRGIBBY|> I can get you the firmware
04:54 < monoxane> ive got a really weird network and need to use a load of stuff all the way from DC level with 10gbit to the desktop to the hundreds of 100mbit thingies everywhere that all communicate with multicast
04:54 < monoxane> so it needs to be all one vendor really
04:54 < sideup66> DRGIBBY|: DICKBUTT
04:54 < sideup66> D
04:54 < sideup66> I
04:55 < sideup66> C
04:55 < sideup66> K
04:55 < sideup66> B
04:55 < sideup66> U
04:55 < genr8_> A
04:55 < jay-ros> better go with cisco nexus gear then
04:55 < genr8_> N
04:55 < sideup66> T
04:55 < sideup66> T
04:55 < jay-ros> R
04:55 < jay-ros> X
04:55 < genr8_> BAN
04:55 < jay-ros> T
04:55 < jay-ros> X
04:55 < genr8_> .
04:55 < jay-ros> zombo.com
04:55 < genr8_> john basedow
04:55 < jay-ros> diego luna
04:56 < sideup66> so
04:56 < sideup66> do you all want to hear a story?
04:56 < jay-ros> yes plx
04:56 < monoxane> jay-ros i was thinking something like a WS-C4506-E chassis in the core (theres some on ebay with 16x10gig and 48x1gig for $1500)
04:56 < sideup66> never have i told the tale of how tall i really am
04:56 < sideup66> every day id drink milk
04:57 < sideup66> very diligently, trying to get taller
04:57 <+DRGIBBY|> 2x  DCS-7148S-R's monoxane
04:57 < sideup66> every day id try and try
04:57 < sideup66> really really hard
04:57 < sideup66> gonna get taller theyd all say
04:57 < sideup66> on the third year of my life
04:57 < sideup66> never had i know
04:57 < sideup66> now im tall as the sky
04:57 < monoxane> also regarding backplane speeds, if everything is on one blade does it go over the backplane to the management engine or switches on blade?
04:58 < sideup66> and now i know where i roam
04:58 < sideup66> getting taller every day
04:58 <+DRGIBBY|> wait no, monoxane
04:58 < sideup66> i would try and try some more
04:58 <+DRGIBBY|> nothing goes to the management engine unless it needs to
04:58 < monoxane> okay
04:58 < sideup66> very very tall i was
04:58 < sideup66> every day id grow
04:58 < sideup66> you see my friends
04:58 <+DRGIBBY|> its strictly port unless there is something weird going on
04:58 < sideup66> on each day
04:59 < sideup66> up and up
04:59 <+DRGIBBY|> s/port/port to port
04:59 <+layer-eight> [SED DRGIBBY|] its strictly port to port unless there is something weird going on
04:59 < monoxane> so theoretically i can get 10gig blades and put all my 10gig stuff on one of them and even if the backplane wouldn't handle it it would be fine
04:59 < sideup66> up id go
04:59 <+DRGIBBY|> a la backplane
04:59 < sideup66> poof id disappear
04:59 < sideup66> read the first letter of each line
04:59 < sideup66> ;)
04:59 < BytesAndCoffee> what will wednesday be? act like an end-user?
04:59 <+DRGIBBY|> what blades are you referring to?
04:59 < BytesAndCoffee> ...i take that back
04:59 < sideup66> dammit
04:59 < monoxane> dammit sideup66
04:59 < sideup66> noone saw my jobke
04:59 < BytesAndCoffee> DRGIBBY|: me or sideup66
05:00 < BytesAndCoffee> oh
05:00 < sideup66> me
05:00 <+DRGIBBY|> no
05:00 < BytesAndCoffee> blades
05:00 <+DRGIBBY|> monoxane
05:00 < BytesAndCoffee> misread
05:00 < monoxane> DRGIBBY| https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Cisco-WS-C4506-E-Chassis-WS-X45-SUP6-E-2x-WS-X4648-RJ45V-E-1-x-WS-X4606-X2-E/232844042485
05:00 <+layer-eight> * monoxane →  Cisco WS-C4506-E Chassis WS-X45-SUP6-E 2x WS-X4648-RJ45V-E 1 x WS-X4606-X2-E  | eBay
05:00 <+DRGIBBY|> oh shit
05:00 <+DRGIBBY|> you're going big
05:00 <+DRGIBBY|> ok
05:00 <+DRGIBBY|> uhh hold on
05:00 < monoxane> its gonna be used so i might as well go for something slightly overkill so i don't have to buy new stuff later on
05:00 < monoxane> i was looking for a 3 blade but cant find any
05:01 < sideup66> im sad :(
05:01 <+DRGIBBY|> oh god thats a CAT 45xx
05:01 <+DRGIBBY|> uh
05:01 < sideup66> DRGIBBY|: i just rickrolled theroom
05:01 < sideup66> and you had no reaction :(
05:01 < monoxane> should i not touch it with a 10m pole or would it be fine?
05:01 <+DRGIBBY|> I've swerve, monoxane
05:01 <+DRGIBBY|> you're dealing with some stupid outdated shit, including CATos
05:02 <+DRGIBBY|> I'd rather make snort rules by hand than deal with that
05:02 < monoxane> okay
05:02 < monoxane> ill find something newer
05:02 <+DRGIBBY|> seriously, 2x DCS-7148S-R
05:03 < monoxane> seriously budget
05:04 <+DRGIBBY|> well tell whoever is writing your budget you can't make enterprise gear magically appear
05:04 < coderphive> dude
05:04 <+DRGIBBY|> your in big $$ land
05:04 < coderphive> Do not buy hardware like that
05:04 < coderphive> I bet you half the ports on that thing are fried
05:04 <+DRGIBBY|> ^^^
05:04 < monoxane> coderphive i have worked that out now
05:04 < coderphive> k
05:04 < coderphive> Just saving you some #crytime bae
05:04 <+DRGIBBY|> tell them they're on 1g ports until they triple your budget
05:05 < monoxane> the other option is to pull 2 of my extreme networks switches out of my lab and sell them to them and buy a 10gig extreme switch and stack it all
05:05 < monoxane> DRGIBBY| 1gbit cant handle online video editing, even with 4 LAG'd ports
05:06 <+DRGIBBY|> then... there is a business need to up your budget?
05:06 < coderphive> What
05:06 < monoxane> ill have a meeting about getting more budget tomorrow when im in
05:06 < monoxane> i agree, i don't think they quite realised the scale they want
05:06 <+DRGIBBY|> gotta manage expectations my friend
05:06 < monoxane> i just got told "make this not suck and get 10gbit to the video suites for as cheap as you possibly can"
05:07 <+DRGIBBY|> when anyone asks for anything above 1g, gotta pay the "fun tax"
05:07 < coderphive> lmao
05:07 < coderphive> as cheap as you possibly can for 10Gb
05:07 <+DRGIBBY|> ^
05:07 <+DRGIBBY|> ok, I can do it for about $30k
05:07 < coderphive> ^
05:07 < coderphive> ding
05:07 <+DRGIBBY|> cheapest I can go
05:07 <+DRGIBBY|> thats USD
05:08 < coderphive> Look man, in networking, you pay for what you get
05:08 < coderphive> This isn't the OS world
05:08 < Ayeitzabee> 10GBASE-T :D
05:08 <+DRGIBBY|> actually, I see a Arista DCS-7148S R on ebay for cheap....
05:09 <+DRGIBBY|> $400 for 48 ports all 10g...
05:09 < monoxane> link please
05:09 <+DRGIBBY|> sorry m8
05:09 < jay-ros> the cisco nexus 9300 looks to be around $24,750, not too bad
05:09 <+DRGIBBY|> buying for myself
05:09 < jay-ros> that's in AU
05:09 < monoxane> dammit
05:09 < monoxane> jay-ros okay ill use that as a price point
05:10 < coderphive> uh
05:10 < abakedapplepie> lol;
05:10 < coderphive> Are nexus' still blackboxes?
05:10 < jay-ros> blackbox?
05:10 <+CheckYourSix> I bid $1
05:10 <+DRGIBBY|> dude, if a 9300 is the BARE minimum
05:10 < jay-ros> you can jump on and configure them as per usual
05:10 < coderphive> oh okay
05:10 <+DRGIBBY|> you go in with 30% added
05:11 < monoxane> okay
05:11 < coderphive> I think 5 years ago their nexus line only worked with VMWare
05:11 <+DRGIBBY|> because you'll need shit
05:11 <+DRGIBBY|> SFP's or cables, or something dumb
05:11 < monoxane> coderphive are you thinking of FEX's? they need a master nexus to configure
05:11 < jay-ros> nah it works with most things now
05:11 < coderphive> monoxane: possibly
05:11 < coderphive> Either way, it was a nightmare
05:12 < monoxane> i was looking at them the other day cos a 24x10gig FEX is like $500 on ebay
05:12 < monoxane> but noooooo you need a master nexus of the same product line
05:15 < jay-ros> meanwhile....
05:15 < jay-ros> FS has a S3800-24F4S
05:15 < jay-ros> which has 4 ports of 10ge
05:16 < jay-ros> so three of them, and they're $547 AUD
05:16 < jay-ros> and dual power
05:16 < jay-ros> S5850-32S2Q 32-Port 10GE SFP+ L2/L3 Data Center Leaf Switch with 2 40G QSFP+ Uplinks#29122
05:17 < jay-ros> thats' a 32 port 10ge sfp+ switch
05:17 < jay-ros> S5900-24S 24-Port 10GE SFP+
05:17 < jay-ros> or a 24 port
05:17 < jay-ros> for 2,600
05:18 < monoxane> whats the config like on them?
05:18 < monoxane> hm they do do smaller switches as well
05:19 < jay-ros> https://www.fs.com/file/user_manual/switch-web-managment-manual(v2.0)-neutral.pdf
05:19 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 2,858,676 bytes
05:19 < jay-ros> fs config sheet
05:20 < monoxane> oh its a gui interesting
05:20 < jay-ros> buy two, copy config, if it blows just throw the other one in its place, you're still saving yourself $$$$$
05:21 < jay-ros> https://www.fs.com/products/11552.html
05:21 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros →  Best Price Cisco SFP-10G-SR 10GBASE-SR SFP+ LC Transceiver| FS.COM
05:21 < monoxane> yea ill use that option if i don't get a decent budget
05:21 < jay-ros> and their tranceivers are all really good price too... and they have rj45 trancievers and cables and whatnot relatively cheap
05:21 < jay-ros> I can't attest to the switches... I'm running nexus myself
05:21 < monoxane> yea ive got piles of their fiber and SFPs
05:22 < monoxane> just havnt touched anything else they sell
05:23 < jay-ros> tbh I'm really interested in the quality of their stuff on a DC level
05:23 < jay-ros> ridiculously underpriced
05:24 < ENIX> Oh man I am so ripped from this script
05:24 < enix> Pushing SSL certs throughout the entire organization like wowee
05:26 < coderphive> I wonder how many "real sysadmins" in here had their SSL certs generated by a company
05:26  * coderphive stirs his warming pot of shit
05:26 < enix> Also my microsoft keyboard has a pause/play button and volume controls but no back or next button
05:26 < enix> That must require an office 365 subscription
05:27 < enix> Side note; Apple could totally sell you buttons for the fancy touch screen function bar
05:27 < coderphive> enix: It actually requires GitHub Enterprise Edition
05:27 < enix> Which I understand is a business Sarah would be interested in
05:27 < enix> Selling people core functionality
05:27 < enix> As opposed to core functionality being.. well... core
05:27 < enix> also Sarah one of these days you're going to bite to my trolling... one day
05:28 < coderphive> wtf is Sarah
05:28 < Pebbles5> I am waiting for, "Skype for GitHub™" ;)
05:28 < enix> coderphive: sarah.ninja iirc
05:29 < Pebbles5> So you can chat with ok other GitHub users without using Gitter ;)
05:29 < coderphive> Gitter for Teams™
05:29 < enix> coderphive: You have your own certificate authority then?
05:30 < enix> Compatible with all browers?
05:30 < enix> You get your company name on your companies online store?
05:30 < coderphive> haha this guy ^
05:30 < enix> Just sayin'
05:30 < jay-ros> enix - sarah / ninja?
05:30 < coderphive> CA's are for certificate signing, not generating my guy
05:31 < jay-ros> confusion.
05:31 < enix> jay-ros: http://sarah.ninja
05:31 <+layer-eight> * enix →  ⚓  https://github.com/SaharahSarah → SaharahSarah (Sarah Day) · GitHub
05:31 < enix> Also it's not fucking doxing because she fucking posted it in here CRYPTIC1 so get off my back
05:31 < jay-ros> a person in IRC, or just a person on github / elsewhere?
05:31 < coderphive> a for profit CA should never generate your cert
05:31 < enix> also thank you for keeping to the spirit of caps only tuesday crayon
05:31 < enix> er
05:31 < enix> s/crayon/cryptic1
05:31 <+layer-eight> [SED enix] also thank you for keeping to the spirit of caps only tuesday cryptic1
05:31 < jay-ros> hahah thanks crayon
05:31 < enix> jay-ros: she's the sarah here
05:31 < jay-ros> righto
05:31 < enix> There's history lol
05:32 < jay-ros> gotcha. never seen her in the mix, different timezone maybe
05:33 < enix> Originally $699, but am selling for 150, due to the fact that Ive misplaced the instruction book
05:33 < enix> What the fuck
05:33 < coderphive> I actually dox CRYPTIC1 on the regular in here
05:33 < coderphive> His name is Bill and he's Canadian
05:33 < monoxane> bill wurtz?
05:33 < Pebbles5> Someone said Canada?
05:33 < coderphive> He enjoys light beers, Canadian Brand™ Maple Syrup™, and long walks in the snow
05:35 < jay-ros> New request from non-it user - Password protected folder
05:35 < jay-ros> fuck yeah, that's something I've experienced a million times.
05:55 <+DrGibby|> CRYPTIC1: can we change the topic back to someone more... seasonable?
05:55 <+DrGibby|> like merry christmas or something?
05:56 < genr8_> in 5 minutes
05:56 <+DrGibby|> 4*
05:59 <@JollyRgrs> 1*
06:00 <+DrGibby|> oh hi, JollyRgrs
06:01 <+DrGibby|> success.
06:01 <+DrGibby|> hi cryptic1
06:01 <@cryptic1> hey
06:02 <@Nostalg14c> Heyo.
06:02 <+DrGibby|> omg thee ops
06:02 <+DrGibby|> what is happening?
06:03 < jay-ros> hi Nostalg14c
06:04 < abakedapplepie> this always happens right around now
06:04 < abakedapplepie> JollyRgrs doesnt sleep, im convinced
06:04 <+DrGibby|> same
06:04 <@JollyRgrs> pfft
06:04 <@JollyRgrs> just finishing a round of RL
06:04 < abakedapplepie> lol
06:05 <+DrGibby|> s/RL/fortnite
06:05 <+layer-eight> [SED DrGibby|/JollyRgrs] just finishing a round of fortnite
06:05 < abakedapplepie> im playing destiny
06:05 < abakedapplepie> because i really hate myselff
06:05 < abakedapplepie> a lot
06:05 < abakedapplepie> like, a lot
06:05 <+DrGibby|> we know
06:05 <+DrGibby|> you visit here
06:08 < Casteil> https://slickdeals.net/f/11789711-2tb-micron-1100-2-5-sata-iii-solid-state-drive-251-39 Damn, 2TB SSD for $250
06:08 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  2TB Micron 1100 2.5" SATA III Solid State Drive $251.39       -   Slickdeals.net
06:09 <+CheckYourSix> Damn, dirt cheap
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> whaaat?
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> i want
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> i can't be spending that money
06:09 <@JollyRgrs> but i waaaaaaaaant
06:09 < catbeard> put it on pcpartpicker
06:10  * CheckYourSix uses JollyRgrs's credit card to order 24 of them
06:11 < jay-ros> that's hot
06:11 <+DrGibby|> oh oh oh, me too!
06:12 <+CheckYourSix> SSD prices are definitely coming down
06:12 <+CheckYourSix> Especially SATA ones
06:12 <+DrGibby|> I want like... 30 of them if someone else is paying for it!
06:13 < Casteil> really tempting
06:13  * wac continues with his whiskey drinking.
06:13 < Casteil> specially since my boss insisted on giving me an extra 10h of OT pay for doing some discovery/proof of concept work for an app rewrite one weekend
06:13 <+CheckYourSix> I would want a few of them to RAID or put in FreeNAS if I was going to get it though....
06:13 <+CheckYourSix> OT+++
06:13 < Casteil> (it was a learning experience for myself so I wasn't clocking my time already)
06:13 <+CheckYourSix> I need more OT
06:14 <+DrGibby|> I LOVE WORKING FROM HOME
06:14 <+CheckYourSix> Lucky you
06:14  * DrGibby| pours another drink
06:14 < Casteil> I'm a little worried about longevity // warranty on that micron ssd though
06:14 < Casteil> I do want it
06:15 < genr8_> 12 and a half cents a gig
06:16 < Casteil> would be nice though.. I'd use my current Samsung 850 evo 500GB as my OS SSD and get rid of the 128GB Vertex 4 I still have my OS on
06:16 < genr8_> > ryan shrout is not impressed
06:16 < genr8_> where is 10 cents a gig
06:16 < Casteil> genr8_: the comments on slickdeals piss me off lol
06:17 < abakedapplepie> the forums or the front page
06:17 < Casteil> "why isn't this price budging!?" ...you dumb cunt, it's dropped $50 since a record low less than 4 months ago, how can you even reason that the price isn't budging?
06:19 < Casteil> speaking of drives
06:19 < Casteil> do you guys know of  any good testing software?
06:21 <@Nostalg14c> whatever the manu provides
06:22 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: For spinners? And do you care about blowing away the data?
06:22 < Casteil> SSD
06:22 <+CheckYourSix> Not sure on SSD. What do you want to test?
06:22 < Casteil> if I get that 2TB SSD I'd like to do a pretty thorough battery of testing on it
06:23 < Casteil> i.e. writing the entire disk several times
06:23 < wac> eh, just back it up to somewhere.
06:23 < nohusuro> Casteil: are you trying to kill the SSD?
06:23 < Casteil> wac: I'm more worried about the warranty being honored than anything
06:24 < wac> yeah.
06:24 < Casteil> basically I'd like to put it through its paces a bit before my retailer return policy is up
06:25 <+DrGibby|> I'm worried your carriers are charging you too much
06:25 < wac> s/I'm worried/We all know/
06:25 <+layer-eight> [SED wac/DrGibby|] We all know your carriers are charging you too much
06:25 <+DrGibby|> 1200/m MAX is 1gig
06:26 < Casteil> my Vertex 4 has 1776 days of power on time
06:27 <+CheckYourSix> I have an 850 EVO. It's probably about 3 years old
06:27 <+CheckYourSix> Maybe a bit more
06:27 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: Go for broke with that OT and buy this - https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/970pro/
06:27 < Casteil> I have an 850 evo too, it's doing well
06:27 < Casteil> only 688 days of power-on time though
06:28 <+CheckYourSix> Just looked. Mine is like 3.12 years. Which is nothing.
06:28 < Casteil> apparently my 128GB Vertex 4 has 42TB of lifetime writes
06:28 <+CheckYourSix> 36 TBW on my 850, which is nothing
06:28 < wac> I have no idea, I'll just buy more if there is a problem.
06:28 < Casteil> only 8.6 on my 850 heh
06:29 <+CheckYourSix> I really wonder what my next rig will be in 5-7 years
06:29 < coderphive> I have an 850 m.2
06:29 < coderphive> Worth every penny
06:29 < jay-ros> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_CSjcm-z1w
06:29 <+layer-eight> * jay-ros →  YouTube → The Temptations - My Girl → ⚘ 2,587,186 ↑ 27,711 ↓ 565 ✍ 817
06:30 < Casteil> I know someone who won one of the intel 8086Ks
06:30 < jay-ros> stuck in my head
06:30 <+CheckYourSix> This desktop is almost 6 years old now. The only upgrades since I originally built it have been new case fans, the 850 EVO and the GTX 1070. Now, it gets nothing else unless there's a catastrophic hardware failure. That will result in total replacement though.
06:31 <+CheckYourSix> Target replacement is another 6 years or so
06:31 <+CheckYourSix> Unless it just gets to a point where it's too slow to use, but I hardly notice a difference from when I built it unti now
06:31 <+CheckYourSix> s/unti/until
06:31 <+layer-eight> [SED CheckYourSix] Unless it just gets to a point where it's too slow to use, but I hardly notice a difference from when I built it until now
06:32 < coderphive> I miss the days when you could sell an old comp
06:32 < Casteil> I haven't felt much need to upgrade.. my i5 3570k + 16GB ram and GTX 970 are still serving me well enough
06:32 < coderphive> Nowadays every kid and their mother can build the ultimate gaming machine
06:32 < coderphive> But ask them how to deploy on k8s and they're clueless
06:32 < coderphive> fucking kids
06:32 <+CheckYourSix> Casteil: You have the same generation CPU I do. I used onboard graphics until last year though lol
06:32 < Casteil> heh
06:33 < Casteil> I still play some fairly high end games; i.e. witcher 3 (though not lately).. 970 still suffices
06:33 <+CheckYourSix> coderphive: But gaming man. Gotta play WoW
06:33 <+CheckYourSix> I went 1070 because of the much lower power and temperatures and because it's one generation newer. I figured it was a massive increase over the on board and will likely last me until my next build
06:35 < Casteil> speaking of
06:36 < Casteil> nvidia banked a little too much on the cryptocurrency craze sustaining
06:36 <+DrGibby|> hey coderphive: its lower case now
06:37 < coderphive> DrGibby|: My electricity is fixed now
06:37 <+DrGibby|> hey coderphive: its lower case now
06:37 < coderphive> DrGibby|: My electricity is fixed now
06:37 <+DrGibby|> hey coderphive: its lower case now
06:37 < coderphive> DrGibby|: My electricity is fixed now
06:37 <+DrGibby|> hey coderphive: its lower case now
06:37 < coderphive> DrGibby|: My electricity is fixed now
06:37 <+DrGibby|> hey coderphive: its lower case now
06:37 < coderphive> DrGibby|: My electricity is fixed now
06:37 <@Nostalg14c> yo
06:37 <@Nostalg14c> yo
06:37 <@Nostalg14c> yo
06:37 <@Nostalg14c> sotp
06:37 <@Nostalg14c> pls
06:37 < jay-ros> hey
06:37 <@Nostalg14c> okty
06:37 < jay-ros> has anyone's electricity gone out?
06:37 < Casteil> their stock has increased in value 10 times over the last ~2.5 years.. almost entirely from the crypto craze... now that that's died down we're finally starting to see a surplus of nvidia cards on the market and prices dropping again
06:37 < jay-ros> mine's fixed now, but it went out for a moment
06:37 <+DrGibby|> coderphive: did you get the message too?
06:38 < Casteil> I think nvidia is going to have a pretty terrible quarterly earnings report coming up
06:38 < jay-ros> oh yes
06:38 <@Nostalg14c> Casteil: i dont think that's true in the slightest
06:38 < coderphive> DrGibby|: haha no
06:38 < Casteil> Nostalg14c: what part?
06:38 < coderphive> what message?
06:38 <@Nostalg14c> "entirely from crypto"
06:38 <+DrGibby|> check your status window
06:38 < jay-ros> Hey - i've got a question for everyone - a) have any of you done a first aid course, and b) if so, what song did they teach you to use when giving CPR?
06:39 < coderphive> oh shi
06:39 <+DrGibby|> you 100% got a message from the cuntslinger Sigyn
06:39 < jay-ros> I had bee gees staying alive, and just found out one of the guys (british) was told to use 'nelly the elephant'
06:39 < coderphive> THREATENED
06:39 < Casteil> Nostalg14c: this paints a pretty obvious picture: https://i.imgur.com/kcDorAc.png
06:39 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 616x528 → ⚘ 2
06:39 <@Nostalg14c> does it?
06:39 < coderphive> Casteil: Production quantity never increased
06:39 < coderphive> False
06:40 <@Nostalg14c> I mean
06:40 < Casteil> anyway; crypto certainly didn't *hurt* nvidia
06:40 <@Nostalg14c> look at apple stocks
06:40 <@Nostalg14c> they do the exact same
06:40 < Casteil> but they got complacent for a while
06:40 < coderphive> It takes a fuck ton of money to roll out a sillicon factory
06:40 <@Nostalg14c> its been a very bullish 3 years
06:40 <@Nostalg14c> any good tech company will have the same trajectory
06:40 <@Nostalg14c> its not crypt related.
06:40 < coderphive> Nvidia spoke out very publicly against that idea
06:41 <@Nostalg14c> Anyway, lunch time for me. bbl.
06:41 < Casteil> <Nostalg14c> its not crypt related. < prove it
06:41 < Casteil> also, I said almost entirely, not entirely period
06:41 < Casteil> the effect that the cryptocurrency craze had on the availability of nvidia GPUs over the last 2 years is readily apparent
06:41 < coderphive> Actually the onus is on you Casteil
06:42 < Casteil> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/26/analyst-slashes-amd-nvidia-price-targets-on-new-cryptocurrency-mining-chip-from-china.html
06:42 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  Analyst slashes AMD, Nvidia price targets on new cryptocurrency mining chip from China
06:43 < Casteil> Susquehanna reduces its rating to negative from neutral and lowers its price target for AMD shares, citing impending competition from cryptocurrency mining company Bitmain.
06:43 < Casteil> >Nvidia’s stock has been on massive rally, hitting an all-time high of over $260 earlier this week, more than double the price of a year ago. But after the company’s latest earnings report, analysts and investors are debating whether growing sales of Nvidia’s graphics chips to data centers can offset possibly declining sales to cryptocurrency miners.
06:44 < Casteil> >In a bid to get ahead of the potential pain that could cause its business, leading graphics processor maker NVIDIA (NASDAQ:NVDA) has reportedly begin taking steps to preemptively shift more of its GPU sales back to end users who want them for gaming, according to DIGITIMES' sources.
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> ok, got my LE certs installed on plex, unifi controller, freenas, and pfsense
06:44 <@JollyRgrs> yay!
06:45 < Casteil> https://www.ccn.com/nvidia-made-289-million-from-cryptocurrency-mining-in-q1/
06:45 <+layer-eight> * Casteil →  Nvidia Made $289 Million from Cryptocurrency Mining in Q1
06:45 < wac> For some reason my unifi setup stopped putting the alias name in DNS. :-(
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> and i've documented how i need to script all of it, except freenas (something about API and even that isn't really fully functional yet)
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> wac: that is WAC, yo
06:45 <@JollyRgrs> wac: didn't have to do with a certain update, did it?
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> i did one update (a few versions behind) and all of a sudden AP wouldn't talk to controller
06:46 < Casteil> ^ frankly though I'd really like to know how they figure out the people buying cards are buying cards for crypto mining
06:46 <@JollyRgrs> i had to ssh into the AP and force it to update to the IP
06:46 < wac> it was a downgrade of the USG from a dev release to the public ones.
06:47 <@JollyRgrs> Casteil: unless they took their "our numbers have trended the same for the last 5 years as far as number of units sold" and just attribute the surge to crypto
06:47 < Casteil> anyway Nostalg14c / coderphive ..there you go, I'm not going to keep spamming sources
06:47 <@JollyRgrs> wac: i bet that did something
06:47 <@cryptic1> JollyRgrs, its late go to bed
06:47 < Casteil> fact is, nvidia's been riding the crypto wave and it's dying now
06:47 < wac> I have no doubt.
06:47 < coderphive> Casteil: point being, all they did was raise card prices
06:48 < Casteil> no one's on the crypto gold rush anymore now that bitcoins aren't worth >$10k
06:48 < coderphive> Casteil: there's no money lost, only earned
06:48 < wac> Nah, we need jollykoin... you can use them to buy kicks and bans here.
06:48 <@JollyRgrs> i hear, at least for the alpha, BFV.... ATI was pwning nvidia (sorry, AMD)
06:48 <@JollyRgrs> even though they swtiched and nvidia is a partner to this one whereas AMD had been previously
06:48 <@JollyRgrs> wac: i'm listening, go on
06:50 < wac> I got nothing.
06:51 < Casteil> I'm just glad that cards are available and dropping in price again
06:51 < Casteil> pissed though that nvidia's been riding the crypto wave and hasn't put out a new gen
06:55 < Casteil> 2010 - 2016 gave us the 400, 500, 600, 700, 900 and 1070 series nvidia cards.. that's ~1 year per gen average. No new gen since the 1000 series debuted over 2 years ago.
06:55 < Casteil> complacency
07:01 < Pebbles5> Hello 😃
07:03 < Pebbles5> nobody active?
07:03 < MiLLERBOSS> NO
07:03 < Casteil> nope
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> no one at all
07:04 < MiLLERBOSS> `bofh
07:04 <@cryptic1> nope
07:04 <+layer-eight> BOFH We've run out of licenses
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> MiLLERBOSS: it is no longer tuesday in here
07:04 < MiLLERBOSS> Its Tuesday in Hawaii
07:04 < Pebbles5> 🎉
07:04 <@JollyRgrs> MiLLERBOSS: are you in hawai'i?
07:04 < MiLLERBOSS> 	🎉	🎉	🎉	🎉	🎉	🎉	🎉	🎉	🎉	🎉	🎉
07:05 <@JollyRgrs> i rest on my laurels
07:05 < MiLLERBOSS> No, JollyRgrs but I wish
07:05 < MiLLERBOSS> No more licenses
07:06 <@JollyRgrs> ok, i'm going to bed
07:06 < MiLLERBOSS> What are you waiting for?
07:06 <@JollyRgrs> i successfully put certs on 4 different services, and documented what i can... i'll setup automation sometime before 60 days when i renew the cert, lol
07:07 <@JollyRgrs> i'm waiting for this good song to end
07:07 < MiLLERBOSS> What services?
07:07 <@JollyRgrs> plex, unifi controller, freenas, pfsense
07:07 < MiLLERBOSS> Not bad
07:07 <@JollyRgrs> Subsonic... i may not deal with.. it's a true PITA from what i've seen on the internet
07:10 < Pebbles5> who is providing the cheapest storage?
07:10 < Pebbles5> *Block Storage
07:11 < jay-ros> Goodnight JollyRgrs
07:11 < jay-ros> sweet dreams
07:14 < MiLLERBOSS> https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/valley-of-genius-excerpt-google  https://www.audible.com/pd/Bios-Memoirs/Valley-of-Genius-Audiobook/B07CZ329NG
07:14 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  “Google Was Not a Normal Place”: Brin, Page, and Mayer on the Accidental Birth of the Company that Changed Everything | Vanity Fair
07:14 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Valley of Genius - Audiobook | Audible.com
07:16 < MiLLERBOSS> http://download.audible.com/product_related_docs/BK_HACH_004459.pdf
07:16 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 8,451,057 bytes
07:17 < MiLLERBOSS> Seems like a good book
07:21 < nojeffre1> MiLLERBOSS read it?
07:22 < MiLLERBOSS> Well checked out some of the website link above about it and listened to the sample. Converting it now
07:22 < Pebbles5> when you cannot sleep "Read the Docs"
07:23 < MiLLERBOSS> Reading a lot makes me tired
07:23 < MiLLERBOSS> This is a long book https://millerboss.com/x/Screen-Shot-2018-07-11-00-23-38-S.png
07:23 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  IMAGE/PNG; CHARSET=UTF-8 Document, 123,083 bytes
07:26 < enix> Fucking hell Nagios is a hunk of shit.
07:26 < enix> It has steam coming off it
07:26 < enix> With fucking cartoon flies zipping about
07:26 < enix> And Dame Edna skull fucking the cunt
07:27 < AustinS> awww poor nagios lol
07:30 < wac> It was really good a decade ago.
07:30 < wac> compared to everything else in that space.
07:33 <@Nostalg14c> Casteil: Your own source states they made only 10% of their money from crypto.
07:34 < Casteil> followed up with where they're getting that figure from
07:34 < Casteil> seems like it may be a figure based on bulk purchases which don't necessarily encompass all crypto miner buys
07:34 < Casteil> s/buys/purchases/
07:34 <+layer-eight> [SED Casteil] seems like it may be a figure based on bulk purchases which don't necessarily encompass all crypto miner purchases
07:35 < Casteil> anyway, you can't really dispute that they've gotten complacent
07:35 <@Nostalg14c> For sure, no competition.
07:36 < Casteil> no competition? AMD hasn't been that far behind
07:36 < Casteil> their sales were superb for the last 1.5+ yrs due to the craze
07:37 <@Nostalg14c> The cfo said "OEM sales included $289 million related to"
07:37 <@Nostalg14c> GPUs for cryptocurrency mining.
07:37 <@Nostalg14c> so lord knows anyway lol
07:37 <@Nostalg14c> no clarification.
07:38 < Casteil> I'd bet the 10% is underrepresenting, but whatever.
07:38 < Casteil> like I said, I'm glad there's a few consumer-friendly trends occurring right now
07:39 < Casteil> one is the favorable availability/price dropping on nvidia cards, and the other is SSDs dropping rapidly in price too
07:39 < Casteil> now if only the same could happen with DDR4
07:41 < Pebbles5> is this place dead? http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/
07:41 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  DevOps Reactions
07:45 < Pebbles5> https://news.softpedia.com/news/new-variant-of-spectre-security-flaw-discovered-speculative-buffer-overflows-521915.shtml
07:45 < vader-> Hola
07:45 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  New Variant of Spectre Security Flaw Discovered: Speculative Buffer Overflows
07:46 < MiLLERBOSS> Time to unplug your CPUs
07:48 < MiLLERBOSS> 01.org seems real shady for a URL of Intel. https://01.org/security/advisories/intel-oss-10002
07:49 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Speculative Execution Branch Prediction Side Channel and Branch Prediction Analysis Method | 01.org
07:49 < genr8_> its a 2 digit .org
07:49 < genr8_> kinda baller
07:49 < genr8_> and the digits are 0 and 1
07:49 < MiLLERBOSS> Yeah but still
07:50 < genr8_> they shoulda made it 8086
07:50 < Casteil> aside from not really feeling the need for "MOAR POWER" ...one more reason I'm not really looking to buy a current gen CPU ._>
07:50 <@Nostalg14c> wheres the eli5 MiLLERBOSS
07:50 < genr8_> your shits fucked
07:50 < genr8_> spectre and meltdown all over again
07:50 < MiLLERBOSS> Over there Nostalg14c
07:50 < MiLLERBOSS> See it?
07:51 <@Nostalg14c> D:
07:51 < MikeSeth> monlogon
07:52 < MiLLERBOSS> https://01.org/security/advisories/intel-oss-10002
07:52 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Speculative Execution Branch Prediction Side Channel and Branch Prediction Analysis Method | 01.org
07:52 < MiLLERBOSS> fuck
07:52 < MiLLERBOSS> https://people.csail.mit.edu/vlk/spectre11.pdf
07:52 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 616,730 bytes
07:52 < MiLLERBOSS> Speculative Buffer Overflows: Attacks and Defenses
07:53 < MiLLERBOSS> There is your white paper
07:53 < HUMPAXX> Good morning
07:53 < MiLLERBOSS> I am sure there will be more here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17500612 soon
07:53 < HUMPAXX> Oh you guys finally stopped the all caps stuff
07:53 < MiLLERBOSS> WHAT?
07:54 < ceofreak> Morning freaks
07:54 < Humpaxx> Im no a freak yo
07:54 < ceofreak> Sup Humpaxx
07:54 < MiLLERBOSS> Also https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security-center/advisory/intel-sa-00112.html
07:54 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  INTEL-SA-00112
07:55 < Humpaxx> Not much ceofreak. Just got in to the office so now im having some breakfast before grabbing the first cup of coffee
07:55 < Humpaxx> You?
07:56 < ceofreak> Same same
07:56 < ceofreak> Just coffee tho
07:56 < Humpaxx> Nice
07:58 < Humpaxx> I walk to work (takes about 25 mins) and usually make a small stop at the grocerystore that is 10 mins from the office to buy one of them premade baguettes with chicken/curry or skagenröra and shrimp
07:59 < MiLLERBOSS> https://blogs.oracle.com/oraclesecurity/updates-about-the-spectre-series-of-processor-vulnerabilities-and-cve-2018-3693
07:59 < MiLLERBOSS> https://access.redhat.com/security/cve/cve-2018-3693
07:59 < MiLLERBOSS> https://www.securityweek.com/intel-pays-100000-bounty-new-spectre-variants
07:59 < MiLLERBOSS> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/10/intel_security_spectre_advisories/
07:59 < MiLLERBOSS> https://www.google.com/search?q=CVE-2018-3693 Nostalg14c
07:59 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  CVE-2018-3693 - Google Search
07:59 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Intel Pays $100,000 Bounty for New Spectre Variants | SecurityWeek.Com
07:59 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  CVE-2018-3693 - Red Hat Customer Portal
07:59 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Updates about the “Spectre” series of processor vulnerabilities and CVE-2018-3693 | Oracle Security Blog
07:59 < Humpaxx> 300k?!
08:00 < Humpaxx> Time to finally sell that expoit i´ve been using to spy on and steal SSH keys from you guys
08:01 < MikeSeth> Man there was never this kind of problems on PDP-11
08:01 < genr8_> ja
08:01 < MiLLERBOSS> https://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-US/security-guidance/advisory/ADV180002
08:01 < MiLLERBOSS> ADV180002 | Guidance to mitigate speculative execution side-channel vulnerabilities
08:04 <@Nostalg14c> i have to accept some T&C t oview that
08:04 < MiLLERBOSS> There are actually many from Intel on the 10th https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security-center/default.html
08:04 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Security Center
08:04 < MiLLERBOSS> Then accept it dum dum
08:04 <@Nostalg14c> nah
08:04 <@Nostalg14c> file this shit into the "when i have time at some point into the future" bucket.
08:05 < MiLLERBOSS> Ha ha
08:05 < rocketeer99> Hello friends I don't know what I'm doing and also mildly panicking
08:05 < MiLLERBOSS> I don't know what I am doing either rocketeer99 but I just pretend
08:05 < MiLLERBOSS> Whats up?
08:06 < AustinS> Humpaxx ahh just read what you said @ stopping on way to office, stahp making me hungry!
08:06 < rocketeer99> I have no sysadmin background but was strong-armed into setting up a nextcloud instance for ~500 people on hardware I don't control without enough disk space to do backups correctly
08:06 < AustinS> sounds like their problem tbh lol
08:06 <@Nostalg14c> Get a credit card and promise the cloud.
08:07 < rocketeer99> I mean their actual sysadmin does not appear to understand the concept of DNS
08:07 < MiLLERBOSS> Yikes!
08:07 < rocketeer99> and it took him over a day to spin up a single ubuntu VM when someone else has already set up the hardware and vmware
08:07 < rocketeer99> The joys of working for a small island government?
08:07 < MiLLERBOSS> Nextcloud is not the way to go unless you for sure know what you are doing and have multiple backups of the data
08:08 < rocketeer99> Some concern then?
08:08 < MiLLERBOSS> Hong Kong island?
08:09 < rocketeer99> Even worse
08:09 < rocketeer99> Government of Tuvalu
08:09 < MiLLERBOSS> British Commonwealth
08:09 < rocketeer99> The entire country has around 11 thousand citizens, and shares a single 1.6 mbps satellite connection
08:10 < rocketeer99> It is technically british commonwealth but the brits don't actually seem to care about it so they're basically on their own
08:10 < MiLLERBOSS> Are you kidding? 1.6Mbps for all of 11,000 people?
08:11 < rocketeer99> I wish I was kidding
08:11 < MiLLERBOSS> How does that even work?
08:11 < MiLLERBOSS> Latency and all
08:11 < rocketeer99> Very badly
08:11 <@Nostalg14c> Because probably like 50 of them use it total
08:11 < rocketeer99> No there's a cell company and they're proud to announce over half of the country is connected to the net
08:11 < Pebbles5> .tv domains are expensive
08:12 < rocketeer99> .tv domain sales make up almost 1/3rd of the government revenue
08:12 < Pebbles5> so same as .io and .fm :P
08:12 < MiLLERBOSS> Wow, interesting
08:13 < MiLLERBOSS> So how much data are you talking and can you mirror it in multiple places there?
08:13 < MiLLERBOSS> Thats what I would aim for since you need to make your own cloud
08:13 < Pebbles5> is that Island close to Hawaii?
08:13 < MiLLERBOSS> Hopefully there is island networking that is faster than 1.6Mbps
08:14 < rocketeer99> Pebbles5: it's much closer to fiji, but it's a good 500 miles from even there
08:14 < MiLLERBOSS> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tuvalu/
08:14 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Google Maps
08:15 < rocketeer99> Intranet is reasonably fast thank god, but they haven't even given me solid requirements
08:15 < MiLLERBOSS> Idiots.
08:15 < MiLLERBOSS> Tell em what you need.
08:15 < MiLLERBOSS> :)
08:15 < rocketeer99> Doesn't really matter given that they gave me a budget of $0 and a vm instance with 160 GB of space
08:16 < rocketeer99> at a guess they'll run through that in a few months and then blame me
08:16 < MiLLERBOSS> Work for a piece of that .tv revenue
08:16 < MiLLERBOSS> Then run :)
08:16 < Ayeitzabee> Has anyone here built a SAN with SOFS?
08:16 < rocketeer99> I came as a finance/econ intern so they're not actually paying me
08:17 < MiLLERBOSS> Well if anything you are learning
08:17 < rocketeer99> I helped write a good half of the 2019 budget because they're somehow even worse at finance then they are at IT
08:17 < MiLLERBOSS> I would be worried if the drives the data on fails, the guy that made the VM fucks up and overwrites it, etc
08:18 < rocketeer99> 2018 had all sorts of entries like: "budgeted value: $120,000" // "Actual value: $5,128,000"
08:18 < MiLLERBOSS> LOL
08:18 < monoxane> HAH
08:18 < MiLLERBOSS> .tv fund will take care of that
08:18 < rocketeer99> Yup, and their sysadmin didn't know what RAID was so any drive failure will be crippling
08:18 < monoxane> has anyone ever even touched an fs.com switch?
08:18 < MiLLERBOSS> I bet he thinks RAID is a backup too then
08:18 < monoxane> i cant find a single indication that anyone has deployed them
08:18 < monoxane> not even that anyone has recieved them
08:19 < monoxane> reddit posts are like "im ordering one to test" and no response after 3 years
08:19 < Ayeitzabee> People aren't in a very answery kinda mood it seems monoxane :D
08:20 < MiLLERBOSS> Because maybe we don't have an answer to give. Oh wait.
08:20 < MiLLERBOSS> We are helping other callers at the moment. Please stand by.
08:20 < MiLLERBOSS> So what is your plan now rocketeer99
08:21 < Ayeitzabee> God someone needs to invest in an Indian call center smh
08:21 < MiLLERBOSS> Go ahead Ayeitzabee
08:22 < MiLLERBOSS> How in the hell did that island form that way
08:22 < rocketeer99> Spin up an un-backed up nextcloud on the hardware they have, leave a paper trail with "this comes with absolutely no warranty I do not condone this" and an offer to buy them a server and set something decent up for many thousands of dollars
08:22 < jay-ros> is there a way to retrieve the RDS CAL licenses from the server if you're migrating them, or do you need the license code on the box?
08:23 < Ayeitzabee> :D
08:23 < rocketeer99> I could also complain for hours about how they don't understand basic eonomics or finance or statistics or algebra but this doesn't seem like the place
08:23 < MiLLERBOSS> Well good luck rocketeer99
08:23 < MiLLERBOSS> If you are stuck with any of that feel free to ping me
08:23 < rocketeer99> I'll need it
08:24 < MiLLERBOSS> Windows machines I assume for these people?
08:24 < MiLLERBOSS> If so what OS
08:25 < rocketeer99> I happened to have an Ubuntu 16.04 ISO on me so that was one major blessing
08:25 < jay-ros> Ah fuck, I've run into the age-old issue
08:25 < jay-ros> bad document management by $boss
08:26 < MiLLERBOSS> So all unmanaged workstations of Ubuntu for users, rocketeer99 ?
08:26 < rocketeer99> No, it's an Ubuntu VM serving various laptops and desktops running basically anything and everything
08:27 < MiLLERBOSS> For 500 people
08:27 < MiLLERBOSS> All at the same location or everywhere?
08:27 < hug> So I set up a catchall the other day.
08:27 < hug> And I'm receiving *so many* emails for a domain that's one letter different to mine.
08:27 < rocketeer99> I've seen Windows XP, 7, 8, 10, ChromeOS, and various macs in the department of finance alone
08:27 < hug> It's a game. I'm forwarding other people's mail back to them.
08:28 < MiLLERBOSS> I sure hope its virus free.
08:28 < MiLLERBOSS> Aww what a gentleman you are hug.
08:28 < rocketeer99> A basically unmanaged network with 500+ people's personal machines is virus free?
08:28 < Humpaxx> AustinS: Just get a bite to eat somewhere
08:29 < rocketeer99> I think the only think keeping their data safe is that none of them even have access to it
08:29 <@Nostalg14c> hug: Anything interesting?
08:29 < hug> Not really.
08:29 < hug> Got some resumes.
08:29 < Ayeitzabee> Lame
08:30 < hug> Some dude's invoice for his out of school hours care.
08:30 < hug> Some caravan company trying to order some wood./
08:30 < MiLLERBOSS> There is so much opportunity there but it sucks they don't want to pay for it.
08:30 < Humpaxx> hug: Salary reports, some mail from Jane in accounting saying she needs approval to pay out a lot of money to "Some tech company LLC"
08:30 < hug> I just forwarded some salesman his hotel booking confirmation.
08:31 < hug> Being like "you might need this dude"
08:31 < Humpaxx> hug: "Hope your wife don´t find out"
08:31 < hug> Hahah
08:31 <@Nostalg14c> ahaha
08:31 < rocketeer99> Now I'm curious: How much is 'a lot of money' in this case?
08:32 < MiLLERBOSS> For the infrastructure. rocketeer99 ?
08:33 < nohusuro> woo! Just got a shiny new 4TB drive back after sending in a 3TB warranty drive
08:33 < nohusuro> I love that they don't manufacture 3TB drives any more
08:33 < Humpaxx> nohusuro: Nice
08:35 < monoxane> okay so it looks like FS.com switches are 100% relabeled Cangoa Perkins metro WAN switches
08:35 < monoxane> never heard of them before
08:36 < monoxane> sounds like if i buy them id need to do this https://securityzap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/layered-security.jpeg
08:36 <+layer-eight> * monoxane →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 32,487 bytes
08:37 < Ayeitzabee> Nice monoxane, good meme lol
08:37 < Ayeitzabee> Imma steal that one
08:38 < Ayeitzabee> monoxane, Just build your own router :D
08:38 < monoxane> no i need 10gig switching
08:38 < Ayeitzabee> Centos/Redhat with IPtables or shorewall
08:38 < Ayeitzabee> Oh
08:38 < monoxane> routing is fortigate
08:43 <@Nostalg14c> Hm, interesting.
08:43 <@Nostalg14c> A guy at work, his name is unique on facebook.
08:44 <@Nostalg14c> What a life to live.
08:48 < genr8_> yeah imagine not being named Mike or Joe or John
08:48 < genr8_> or one of the other top 20 names reused a million times over
08:48 < Pebbles5> Is your name "Bryce" ?
08:48 < monoxane> does anyone have a VAR or even pricelist for extreme networks gear?
08:48 < Pebbles5> Or "Tommy" ?
08:52 < genr8_> whats in a name
08:58 < MiLLERBOSS> monoxane 👉 https://www.google.com/search?q=extreme+networks+price+list+xls
08:58 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  extreme networks price list xls - Google Search
08:58 < MiLLERBOSS> I am sure you will find a recent one. I find those are out there for many vendors.
08:59 < MiLLERBOSS> http://www.iesinfo.com/Extreme%20GSA%20PriceList.pdf not sure of year there
08:59 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  APPLICATION/PDF Document, 113,737 bytes
09:02 < Pebbles5> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Se7aREjOCU
09:02 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  YouTube → What's in a Name → ⚘ 2,675,820 ↑ 19,729 ↓ 268 ✍ 1,201
09:09 < ceofreakx> Nice Nostalg14c, does he wear it like a badge of honor?
09:17 <@Nostalg14c> ceofreakx: Idk, I only knew of him in his leaving the company email basically.
09:18 < ceofreakx> lol
09:19 < Pebbles5> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM8sIVzvOlw
09:19 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  YouTube → Dungeons and Dragons → ⚘ 2,341,282 ↑ 20,303 ↓ 350 ✍ 1,561
09:25 < nojeffre1> So with Fortigates and Deep packet inspection, is there a good way to prevent cert warnings? I'm going to create a 2nd NAT rules that applies to certain VLANs/subnets, so all desktops should be covered, guest wifi will be exempt, but I'll have a WIFI vlan that will have phones/tablets but also newer laptops that don't have ethernet, how does everyone do this effectively?
09:25 < MiLLERBOSS> I still have to get my FortiGates set up
09:26 < nojeffre1> Also Firefox has a ASDM policy now to tell it to use the MS cert store instead of it's own, woo!
09:26 < genr8_> groundbreaking
09:26 < MiLLERBOSS> Can that be done for Chrome?
09:26 < nojeffre1> I thought chrome already uses the MS cert store
09:26 <@Nostalg14c> It's done automatically?
09:26 <@Nostalg14c> Yeah.
09:27 <@Nostalg14c> Firefox and Safari were the only ones who didn't.
09:27 < MiLLERBOSS> I thought Chrome does something different
09:27 < MiLLERBOSS> Oh
09:27 <@Nostalg14c> Nein.
09:27 <@Nostalg14c> Chrome has Cert pinning.
09:28 < nojeffre1> https://cookbook.fortinet.com/preventing-certificate-warnings-defaultcert-56/ does not give any useful advice
09:28 <+layer-eight> * nojeffre1 →  Preventing certificate warnings (default certificate) - Fortinet Cookbook
09:29 < genr8_> you have to add your fortigate certificate to the trusted root publishers store
09:29 < nojeffre1> Yep that's easy
09:31 < nojeffre1> But lets say this DPI policy is applied to 5 subnets, one of those is the wifi subnet, there are going to be work laptops and android tablets and iphones etc, so the windows laptops will be ok, but every other wifi device will get warnings
09:32 < genr8_> oh. yep.
09:32 < MiLLERBOSS> You can't apply the policy to only some subnets/vlans nojeffre1 ?
09:32 < Pebbles5> hmm Azure's Market share is much larger than GCP.
09:33 < Pebbles5> GCP is more comparable to IBM.
09:33 < MiLLERBOSS> Also its not super active but there is #fortinet to idle in nojeffre1
09:33 < nojeffre1> I can, but the wifi vlan contains a mix of windows laptops, and androids, iphones, etc
09:33 < nojeffre1> ta, I'll ask before i leave work
09:35 < MiLLERBOSS> Why not create multiple VLANs for that then?
09:35 < Pebbles5> which big companies using GCP?
09:35 < Pebbles5> doesn't Spotify use GCP?
09:36 < nojeffrey> MiLLERBOSS then i would need a 3rd wifi network too?
09:37 < nojeffrey> Using Ubiquiti's, they can handle 4 at time, but Id want less congestion, there is enough wifi networks around here
09:37 < Pebbles5> does anyone know?
09:37 < MiLLERBOSS> Well I guess you have to weigh the options. I plan on replacing my UniFi stuff with FortiAPs
09:38 < monoxane> MiLLERBOSS yea you can apply a policy to a subset of addressed
09:38 < monoxane> or whoevers asking
09:38 < MiLLERBOSS> Pebbles5 👉 Google - https://cloud.google.com/blog/big-data/2016/03/spotifys-journey-to-cloud-why-spotify-migrated-its-event-delivery-system-from-kafka-to-google-cloud-pubsub
09:38 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Spotify's journey to cloud: why Spotify migrated its event delivery system from Kafka to Google Cloud Pub/Sub | Google Cloud Big Data and Machine Learning Blog  |  Google Cloud
09:38 < MiLLERBOSS> https://www.google.com/search?q=spotify+google+cloud :)
09:38 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  spotify google cloud - Google Search
09:39 < monoxane> set an ip space in objects > addresses
09:39 < monoxane> and set that policy to only affect that address object
09:39 < MiLLERBOSS> monoxane 👉 Do you have access to any off the NSE training?
09:39 < nojeffrey> me asking
09:39 < MiLLERBOSS> s/off/of
09:39 <+layer-eight> [SED MiLLERBOSS] monoxane 👉 Do you have access to any of the NSE training?
09:39 < monoxane> pffft you think i pay for the training material?
09:39 < monoxane> i just back up the config, poke stuff until it works
09:40 < monoxane> if it breaks restore the config via seria
09:40 < MiLLERBOSS> OK.
09:43 < MiLLERBOSS> Just found https://fortislack.azurewebsites.net/
09:43 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Join r/fortinet on Slack!
09:57 < Popzi> fooking windows man, why does the \\pc1 directory sometimes work, then randomly as fuckballs just not work? >_<
09:59 <@Nostalg14c> Probably firewall profiles if its the same pc, but becaause you've misconfigured something.
09:59 < gentoouser|a> hello reddit sysadmin!
09:59 < Popzi> is there a way to fully turn off network authentication? I've disabled it all in the network and sharing center, but ofcourse this is windows so it just ignores that and is probably some secret shit hidden in the registry which you wont ever find due to the issue you're googling always going to the thing you've already done
09:59 < gentoouser|a> Is it possible to work from home as a sysadmin?
09:59 < gentoouser|a> how?
10:00 <@Nostalg14c> Popzi: enable file sharing, turn off password-protected sharing, enable guest account, check share & ntfs permissions.
10:00 < gentoouser|a> i'm self-taught
10:00 <@Nostalg14c> gentoouser|a: highly depends on the role & company.
10:01 < gentoouser|a> oh ok
10:02 < gentoouser|a> i found only scams
10:02 < gentoouser|a> i dont know :P
10:02 < Popzi> Nostalg14c: righto I'll give the guest account a shot, even though the share has `everyone` with full read n write perms :s
10:03 < gentoouser|a> it's very hard i think
10:03 < gentoouser|a> to find a job
10:03 < gentoouser|a> in this field
10:03 < gentoouser|a> you need experience
10:03 <@Nostalg14c> Entry level is tough.
10:03 <@Nostalg14c> Same as most fields.
10:04 < gentoouser|a> yes
10:04 <@Nostalg14c> Anything past that, shouldn't be too difficult.
10:04 < monoxane> yea
10:04  * monoxane is very entry level
10:04 < monoxane> part time singular sysadmin while finishing last year of highschool is fun
10:05 <@Nostalg14c> Is reddit dead.
10:05 <@Nostalg14c> or just my internets.
10:05 < monoxane> nah its dead
10:05 <@Nostalg14c> In progress - Scheduled maintenance is currently in progress. We will provide updates as necessary.
10:05 < gentoouser|a> damn
10:06 < gentoouser|a> it's really dead
10:06 <@Nostalg14c> Well, its 4pm, so that might just mean i should go home.
10:06 <@Nostalg14c> The last maintenance took 10 minutes.
10:07 < gentoouser|a> there isn't a backup reddit server?
10:07 <@Nostalg14c> Thats.. not really how it works.
10:07 < monoxane> probably doing database schema changes
10:07 < MaxLeiter> always have hackernews :P
10:07 < xe0n> lol
10:07 < monoxane> like last week
10:07 < gentoouser|a> haha yes
10:07 < gentoouser|a> hn
10:10 < Popzi> if i visit \\pc1 within explorer, and its asks for a login, and I login, how do I logout so it asks me to login again?
10:11 < gentoouser|a> do you know if here is an extension to chat in the same window?
10:11 < gentoouser|a> *there
10:12 < gentoouser|a> like the same video on youtube or something
10:12 <@Nostalg14c> windows credential manager.
10:12 <@Nostalg14c> and/or net use
10:12 < Popzi> Nostalg14c: already looked, nope, ran net use * /DELETE too, no entries
10:14 < Popzi> restarting the workstation service sorted it :)
10:15 < gentoouser|a> imagine an extension to chat in the same youtube video. It would be awesome
10:15 < gentoouser|a> :)
10:15 < Popzi> gentoouser|a: what are you chatting? xd
10:16 < gentoouser|a> you can comment
10:16 < gentoouser|a> every single frame :D
10:16 < Popzi> Right. Yeah okay. *Backs away slowly*
10:28 < Popzi> There we go :-) sorted it, thanks for chipping in there Nostalg14c! https://i.imgur.com/hFUwCcs.png
10:28 <+layer-eight> * Popzi →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 346x423 → ⚘ 5
10:37 < adamb> gentoouser|a: you can on live youtube videos. It gets used for ASCII art swastika's and pepe's
10:38 < gentoouser|a> lol
10:38 < gentoouser|a> adamb: yes on live
10:44  * MikeSeth installs a truly evil hack to block Skype updates
10:44 < MikeSeth> this will 100% backfire one day
10:45 < MikeSeth> god I fucking hate Skype
10:45 < MikeSeth> literally Hitler
10:45 < Popzi> who doesnt?
10:45 < Popzi> its MSN on crutches
10:48 < MikeSeth> Microsoft exceeded Oracle in buying up products and turning them into shit
10:48 < MikeSeth> it is truly remarkable how good they are at it
10:50 < Pebbles5> you mean they are better than Google and Facebook?
10:50 < Pebbles5> I mean as opposed to Shutting down the things they bought :P
10:51 < Popzi> I wonder how long github has left
11:10 < MiLLERBOSS> Its worse. Skype is now Electron garbage
11:12 < MikeSeth> SARCASM oh please just because it has a copy of nodejs and libqt doesn't mean it's garbage END SARCASM
11:16 < MiLLERBOSS> MikeSeth 👉 Are you new here?
11:18 < gentoouser|a> are you all sysadmins in here?
11:18 < Humpaxx> MiLLERBOSS: What?
11:18 < MiLLERBOSS> Humpaxx 👉 WHAT?
11:18 < Humpaxx> gentoouser|a: I just come here because cryptic1 and TuxedoJack are my only source of entertainment and will
11:19 < Humpaxx> MiLLERBOSS: Electron garbage?
11:19 < MiLLERBOSS> Yes
11:20 < MiLLERBOSS> You like Electron?
11:20 < Humpaxx> I dunno, what is it?
11:21 < MiLLERBOSS> Electron is a node.js and Chromium framework that lets developers use Web technologies (JavaScript, HTML and CSS) to build desktop apps. It's widely-used: Skype, Slack, Signal, a Basecamp implementation and a desktop Wordpress app all count themselves as adopters.
11:21 < MiLLERBOSS> https://electronjs.org/
11:21 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  Electron | Build cross platform desktop apps with JavaScript, HTML, and CSS.
11:21 < Humpaxx> What about discord?
11:21 < MiLLERBOSS> What I dislike is its not OS native.
11:22 < MiLLERBOSS> What about discord?
11:22 < MikeSeth> I'm sure medical science will catch up and we'll have a functioning chemoterapy for it soon
11:22 < MiLLERBOSS> MikeSeth 👉 Are you new here?
11:23 < MiLLERBOSS> I think gentoouser|a and Humpaxx are new here too
11:23 < MiLLERBOSS> WELCOME
11:23 < gentoouser|a> yes thanks
11:23 < gentoouser|a> :)
11:23 < MikeSeth> MiLLERBOSS: https://www.reddit.com/user/MikeSeth/
11:23 <+layer-eight> * MikeSeth →  reddit: the front page of the internet
11:23 < MikeSeth> not particularly
11:23 < Humpaxx> MikeSeth: Im not new
11:24 < MikeSeth> I am happy to learn of this
11:24 < MiLLERBOSS> I am referring to here in #reddit-sysadmin not reddit
11:24 < MikeSeth> MiLLERBOSS: a bit
11:24 < Humpaxx> MiLLERBOSS: Im not new
11:24 < MiLLERBOSS> https://html5zombo.com
11:24 <+layer-eight> * MiLLERBOSS →  APPLICATION/XHTML+XML Document, 16,495 bytes
11:24 < MiLLERBOSS> OK well you are not welcome then
11:24 < MiLLERBOSS> :P
11:24 < Humpaxx> Or, how old or new are you to count as new
11:24 < gentoouser|a> ahah
11:24 < MiLLERBOSS> A month
11:24 < MiLLERBOSS> or 3
11:25 < Humpaxx> MiLLERBOSS: I´ve told Hatter off a coupleof times so im pretty much a veteran by now
11:25 < MiLLERBOSS> Wonderful!
11:26 < MikeSeth> bash.org died again
11:26 < MikeSeth> le sigh
11:30 < Humpaxx> MikeSeth: You might have to do actual work?
11:30 < MikeSeth> the to do list in front of me has, let's see
11:31 < MikeSeth> 19 items
11:31 < MikeSeth> since the beginning of the week
11:31 < MikeSeth> how is YOUR day
11:31 < adamb> Appraisal day
11:32 < adamb> "This is the objective you asked me to cancel because of the CEO's pet project"
11:32 < adamb> "And this is the one because the budget was reallocated"
11:32 < Humpaxx> Whats the name of that podcast where they talk about IT stuff?
11:32 < adamb> "And this one was because no one actually wanted the thing"
11:32 < Humpaxx> ctrl alt shift?
11:32 < MiLLERBOSS> There are many podcasts that talk about IT stuff
11:32 < Pebbles5> Microsoft owns Electron JS now
11:33 < MikeSeth> this will end well
11:33 < Pebbles5> so they are going to use it more and more now
11:33 < Humpaxx> Isn´t that an opensource project?
11:33 < adamb> It's open source, corporate owned
11:33 < Pebbles5> its maintained by GitHub
11:33 < Humpaxx> Aha
11:33 < Pebbles5> and Microsoft bought GitHub
11:34 < adamb> Github/MS own the copyright, but it could be forked
11:34 < adamb> It's a good thing though, MS are great at runing products so maybe electron will die a well deserved death
11:34 < Pebbles5> adamb: definitely, but I doubt anyone is gonna do that.
11:34 < adamb> s/runing/ruining
11:34 <+layer-eight> [SED adamb] It's a good thing though, MS are great at ruining products so maybe electron will die a well deserved death
11:35  * adamb pours one for Skype
11:35 < Pebbles5> I wonder why people still have Skype installed? Do people need it for work or something?
11:37 < Pebbles5> BTW is not the Facebook Video Calls powered by Skype?
11:38 < adamb> Skype is great for low bandwidth use, and some of my online DnD group are on terrible connections
11:38 < Pebbles5> oh
11:38 < adamb> even if it does turn my computer into a space heater
11:38 < gentoouser|a> Is there a school of sysadmins ? :D
11:38 < gentoouser|a> mmo?
11:38 < Pebbles5> yes, its called "University".
11:38 < gentoouser|a> or something
11:39 < gentoouser|a> online?
11:39 < Pebbles5> adamb: doesn't Skype's Web Version work fine anyways?
11:40 < MikeSeth> it requires additional twisting for calling to work
11:41 < Pebbles5> At least Skype is still a active product, look at their competitors like Hangouts for example.
11:41 < adamb> dunno, never tried the web version
11:41 < Pebbles5> *an
11:42 < Pebbles5> I think a lot of people I know switched from Skype to Discord.
11:43 < gentoouser|a> I agree. Discord is good :)
11:44 < Pebbles5> and others just use Facebook, WhatsApp etc for Video calling.
11:44 < Pebbles5> doesn't Instagram and Snapchat also support Video Calling now?
11:45  * MikeSeth publishes an ad for a system administrator apprentice
11:45  * MikeSeth watches a 33 year office secretary apply for the position
11:45  * MikeSeth sighs
11:46 < Pebbles5> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih6Qfa8Wd4w
11:46 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  YouTube → D&D Revenge → ⚘ 1,938,171 ↑ 17,034 ↓ 299 ✍ 1,038
11:46 < gentoouser|a> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BWGwXNHQL._SX357_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
11:47 < gentoouser|a> did you ever read this?
11:47 < Pebbles5> "Bros Before Barmaids" LOL
11:50 < gentoouser|a> tell me the OSI model :D
11:50 < FenJai> Does anyone know if its possible to automatically remove mediawiki accounts after a specified time ?
11:53 < gentoouser|a> 2.1	Layer 1: Physical Layer
11:53 < gentoouser|a> 2.2	Layer 2: Data Link Layer
11:53 < gentoouser|a> 2.3	Layer 3: Network Layer
11:53 < gentoouser|a> 2.4	Layer 4: Transport Layer
11:53 < gentoouser|a> 2.5	Layer 5: Session Layer
11:53 < gentoouser|a> 2.6	Layer 6: Presentation Layer
11:53 < gentoouser|a> 2.7	Layer 7: Application Layer
11:53 < gentoouser|a> sorry
11:55 < Humpaxx> 2.8 Layer 8: User
11:56 < gentoouser|a> Layer 9 Organization :D
11:57 < gentoouser|a> Layer 10: Government
11:59 < gentoouser|a> i didn't know
12:04 < gentoouser|a> what are your favorite websites?
12:05 < gentoouser|a> technology news?
12:05 < gentoouser|a> reddit?
12:09 < Pebbles5> https://slashdot.org /S
12:09 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters
12:10 < gentoouser|a> oh i know
12:14 < Pebbles5> In all seriousness though https://arstechnica.com is pretty good source ;)
12:14 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  Ars Technica
12:15 < gentoouser|a> http://www.techcrunch.com too :D
12:15 <+layer-eight> * gentoouser|a →  ⚓  https://techcrunch.com/ → TechCrunch – Startup and Technology News
12:15 < Pebbles5> Unless you like https://www.theverge.com
12:15 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  The Verge
12:15 < gentoouser|a> yes the verge
12:16 < Pebbles5> Yep TechCrunch is good these days
12:16 < Pebbles5> I also like their new site interfere
12:17 < gentoouser|a> ZDnet is a very good source too
12:19 < Pebbles5> Isn't ZDNet owned by CNET?
12:21 < gentoouser|a> yes
12:21 < gentoouser|a> it's the same owner
12:22 < Pebbles5> Hmm CBS owns them
12:23 < Pebbles5> Then again, TechCrunch is owned by Verizon
12:28 < Pebbles5> As far as writing style goes, Ars Technica is focused on more serious news while Verge is more "BuzzFeed-ish"
12:39 < gentoouser|a> https://mapc.am/ do you know already this website?
12:39 <+layer-eight> * gentoouser|a →  MapCam | Call people anywhere in the world, directly from your browser!
12:45 < gentoouser|a> it's not a bad idea
13:33 < Humpaxx> Ok ima need someone to suggest a good tech podcast or something that i can listen to while i repair some computers
13:33 < m4221> freddieptf: IPL the system for the new PTFs now
13:34 < Humpaxx> Part Time Folks?
13:35 < m4221> PTFs are patches on an IBM AS/400
13:39 < Pebbles5> Humpaxx: depends on what kinda tech podcast you are interested in.
13:40 < Humpaxx> Im gonna give ATP a try
13:42 < Pebbles5> Humpaxx: isn't that an Apple related podcast?
13:42 < monoxane> Pebbles5 no that AFP
13:44 < Pebbles5> monoxane: huh?
13:44 < monoxane> i read too fast and got confused ignore me
13:45 < monoxane> i thought you said "Isnt that an Apple related protocol?"
13:45 < Pebbles5> ATP is Accident Tech Podcast
13:45 < Pebbles5> Humpaxx: if you are into Apple related tech podcasts, try The Talk Show With John Gruber
13:46 < Pebbles5> And for Sys Admins, try, Arrested DevOps podcast
13:46 < Humpaxx> Pebbles5: OSX for the computers is nice but the rest im not really a fan of/interested in
13:48 < Pebbles5> monoxane: oh
13:51 < Pebbles5> There's quite a lot of good podcasts related to System Administration and DevOps if one is interested in those.
14:00 < rootsudo> Good morning all.
14:07 < Humpaxx> Sup rootsudo
14:09 < rootsudo> Humpaxx going to tokyo
14:10 < Humpaxx> Cool
14:11 < Humpaxx> I know a little japanese
14:12 <+giant_it_burrit> ni hao
14:12 <+giant_it_burrit> oniichan
14:12 < millendra> benpi desu
14:12 <+giant_it_burrit> DESU DEESU
14:13 < Casteil> why is it so hard to find information on chrome's mouse wheel gestures..
14:13 < Casteil> (if you click down your mousewheel and swipe left or right, it acts as back or forward)
14:13 < millendra> i didnt even know it had gestures lol
14:14 < Casteil> makes me rage because I trigger it while trying to scroll left/right through a large sheet
14:14 < Casteil> every frickin day
14:15 < Pebbles5> giant_it_burrit: that's Chinese/Mandarin
14:15 <+giant_it_burrit> egg roll wonton soup?
14:17 < asimon> Good morning my friends
14:17 < asimon> I woke up to appoximately a billion emails saying our backup server is out of disk space :/
14:19 < Pebbles5> That's why kids, System Administrators should not sleep /S
14:19 < Matt_YO> You guys using LAPS on your windows machines?  any negatives??
14:19 < Tzunamii> asimon: Ouch, wearing your brown-pants today? :)
14:21 < Pebbles5> It's such a dumb idea to leave your phone home when you go on a vacation....
14:21 < asimon> Tzunamii: Actually I am
14:23 < Pebbles5> People these days act like phone is a prison or a cuff or something... Just uninstall the shit apps
14:23 < Pebbles5> "I wanna spend time with myself" ....
14:24 < vavkamil> I'm using nginx and configuring "access_log off;" and "error_log off;" for register and login location. would you recommend any option how I can still keep logs without passwords? Like can I turn off logging just for one POST parameter?
14:26 < MB_Adriaan> kek. One of our techies just drop-kicked a printer.
14:26 < Pebbles5> If people cannot control themselves from using your phone on vacation so much that they have to leave it home... Then one should rethink their life
14:27 < MB_Adriaan> haha omw He is already packing
14:27 < Pebbles5> s/your/their
14:27 <+layer-eight> [SED Pebbles5] If people cannot control themselves from using their phone on vacation so much that they have to leave it home... Then one should rethink their life
14:27 < asimon> Someone recommended an alternative to WinDirStat in here a while ago that was significantly faster - does anyone remember what that was?
14:27 < mrWhiteMD> df -h
14:28 < mrWhiteMD> .yt BABYMETAL
14:28 < Pebbles5> Anyways I should calm down...
14:29 < Pebbles5> Lol I hardly ever get enraged but this thing bothered me so much
14:29 < Nightcinder> e n r a g e d
14:30 < Pebbles5> ;)
14:32 < Pebbles5> Kubernetes is interesting
14:32 < nickster> if i get a chelsio 10gb card for one machine would i have compatibility issues if i bought mellanox cards for other hosts?
14:33 < mrWhiteMD> Pebbles5: whats the diference between docker ?
14:34 < Pebbles5> mrWhiteMD: Kubernetes integrates with Docker, it's more of an alternative to Docker Swarm
14:34 < mrWhiteMD> Pebbles5: can i install it on a CentOS7 machine ?
14:36 < Pebbles5> mrWhiteMD: yep
14:38 < Pebbles5> I am thinking about getting into Linux from Scratch
14:38 < mrWhiteMD> Pebbles5: ok, in docker a have Dockerfile-s to build a container, how to do this in Kubernetes ?
14:39 < mrWhiteMD> Pebbles5: they have an easier way ?
14:40 < asimon> why is there 22gigs in this recycle bin
14:40 < asimon> I've seen worse but still
14:41 < Pebbles5> mrWhiteMD: I am just getting started with Kubernetes, I think some other people here know more about it.
14:42 < Pebbles5> https://www.docker.com/kubernetes
14:42 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  Kubernetes | Docker
14:42 < Pebbles5> Also https://kubernetes.io/docs/home/
14:42 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  Kubernetes Documentation - Kubernetes
14:43 < mrWhiteMD> Pebbles5: it means that Kubernetes and Docker Swarm is a frontend to Docker
14:44 < Pebbles5> It's a launcher/manager for Containers, yes
14:45 < Pebbles5> Especially for automating from what I am understanding
14:45 < Pebbles5> *good for
14:47 < Pebbles5> Seems like not many people online right now
14:49 < MikeSeth> and docker is a frontend for lxc
14:49 < MikeSeth> which is a frontend for linux containers
14:49 < MikeSeth> which is a frontend for world zionist organization
14:49 < MikeSeth> it goes deeper
14:53 < Pebbles5> ...
14:53 < mrWhiteMD> MikeSeth: lol
14:57 < Pebbles5> матрешка
14:58 < asimon> God this is terrible
14:58 < Pebbles5> What is?
14:58 < asimon> This whole backup system
14:59 < Humpaxx> asimon: backup exec? :p
14:59 < asimon> Retrospect v7
14:59 < asimon> I wonder what the current version is
14:59 < asimon> Current is v15.1 LOL
15:00 < asimon> There are backups from 2002 in here
15:00 < Pebbles5> * MikeSeth so it's матрёшка ;)
15:00 < asimon> and my boss doesn't want me to delete any of them
15:00 < mrWhiteMD> Pebbles5: it's a doll in a doll
15:00 < mrWhiteMD> Pebbles5: russian)
15:00 < Pebbles5> mrWhiteMD: I know what it is ;)
15:02  * MikeSeth lokos at Pebbles5 
15:02 < MikeSeth> I didnt bail out of russia to listen to russian memes on #reddit-sysadmin
15:02 < Humpaxx> MikeSeth: you crazy?
15:02 < Humpaxx> El lokos
15:03 < Pebbles5> El Tacos
15:04 < Pebbles5> Writing in Cyrillic script to make it look fancy ;)
15:05 < Pebbles5> あなたは退屈しているとき
15:05 < mrWhiteMD> fuck chinese
15:05 < Pebbles5> That's Japanese...
15:05 < mrWhiteMD> it's alien's language
15:06 < MadCamel> diry knees
15:06 < MikeSpears> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nxINWHf9/FB_IMG_1531314049840.jpg
15:06 <+layer-eight> * MikeSpears →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 79,721 bytes
15:06 < Pebbles5> かわいい言語
15:06 < MikeSpears> Pebbles5: speak english
15:07 < MikeSpears> This is murica or something
15:07 < MikeSpears> Lol
15:07 < Pebbles5> MikeSeth: in Australia, they call McDonald's "Maccas" ;)
15:07 < mrWhiteMD> not only Merica right?
15:08 < MikeSpears> I'm being a troll
15:09 < Pebbles5> Ich dachte, dass dieser Chatroom alle Sprachen erlaubt?
15:10 < Pebbles5> Since when is this chatroom a country?
15:10 < Pebbles5> LOL
15:11 < MikeSpears> I'm being an idiot lol
15:11 < Pebbles5> Lol
15:12 < Pebbles5> I don't even know Russian
15:12 < Pebbles5> I know a select few words
15:12 < MikeSpears> Does anyone truly know Russian?
15:12 < MikeSpears> Lol
15:12 < mrWhiteMD> I know 8-)
15:12 < Pebbles5> Like Vodka and Vladimir etc ;)
15:12 < MikeSpears> Lol
15:13 < Pebbles5> And Rasputin
15:13 < Pebbles5> I guess that's not a word though
15:15 < scwizard> not my day
15:15 < Nightcinder> man
15:15 < scwizard> fell alseep at like 4PM
15:15 < Nightcinder> i'm pushing for 6 cores for new SQL server
15:15 < Nightcinder> but i'mg etting pushback
15:16 < scwizard> couldn't re fall asleep after
15:16 < scwizard> so got into work early
15:16 < scwizard> and firefighting right away
15:16 < Pebbles5> Get some coffee
15:16 < scwizard> oh and the coffee place i like
15:16 < scwizard> doesn't open until 8 so i couldn't get coffee on the way
15:16 < corn266> So get some staff room coffee
15:16 < scwizard> so i hit up the office kurieg but we only have one flavor and i don't like it
15:16 < corn266> kek
15:16 < scwizard> (but i've been drinking it anyway)
15:17 < scwizard> i brought some of my own pods but forgot to bring them with me to the office today
15:17 < scwizard> not my day man
15:17 < AFITM> scwizard you mean forbidden pods?
15:17 < mrWhiteMD> wihout cofee 0% energy, with coffee 0% energy + Tachycardia
15:18 < Pebbles5> Drink Irish Coffee instead then with extra Whiskey ;)
15:19 < estranger> Amen
15:19 < corn266> r/sysadmin-gonewild
15:19 < estranger> Pass
15:19 < estranger> God I hate this train in the morning
15:19 < Nightcinder> so the IT girl we just hired used to sing R&B and pop and almost signed a contract with britney spears agent
15:20 < Nightcinder> then she met her now-husband and he said she could only sing christian music and here she is
15:20 < estranger> That's a rare breed Nightcinder
15:20 < Nightcinder> yeah but she made the mistake of listening to her husband
15:20 < Pebbles5> Nightcinder: dass Dumb
15:20 < mrWhiteMD> unique i said
15:20 < hxcsp> my wife doesnt listen to me
15:20 < Nightcinder> because devout christian
15:20 < hxcsp> wtf
15:21 < scwizard> Nightcinder: i mean, is she happy?
15:21 < estranger> hxcsp: maybe you need more Jesus
15:21 < Nightcinder> uh
15:21 < scwizard> maybe she made the right decision
15:21 < Nightcinder> kind of?
15:21 < Nightcinder> we just had a half hour discussion about how she wants to sing
15:21 < Nightcinder> so
15:21 < asimon> s/girl/woman
15:21 < Nightcinder> kind of?
15:21 < mrWhiteMD> hxcsp: bitches all the time do this
15:21 <+layer-eight> [SED asimon/Nightcinder] so the IT woman we just hired used to sing R&B and pop and almost signed a contract with britney spears agent
15:21 < asimon> cmon bruh
15:21 < Nightcinder> girl
15:21 < Nightcinder> girl girl girl girl girl girl
15:21 < hxcsp> estranger: no. really no lol
15:21 < estranger> Moar!
15:22 < corn266> Can I interest you in some raptor jesus?
15:22 < Nightcinder> jesus raptor
15:23 < scwizard> Nightcinder: well she gets to sing every sunday at least?
15:23 < mrWhiteMD> in Flying Spaghetti Monster we trust !
15:23 < AFITM> Nightcinder hubby's a Red Piller
15:23 < mrWhiteMD> the have even a church
15:24 < scwizard> if you want to go to an athiest's church you should just go to a UU church, they've been doing it way longer than FSM has
15:25 < scwizard> ok now that i'm done firefighting
15:25 < Pebbles5> FSF have a church? They worship Stallman? /S
15:25 < SynMonger> athiest church... that seems like going to hell with extra steps
15:25 < scwizard> i just have a sinus headache
15:25 < mrWhiteMD> that
15:25 < mrWhiteMD> that's cooler https://afterschoolsatan.com/
15:25 < scwizard> SynMonger: nono one of the Us believes that everyone goes to heaven
15:25 < Pebbles5> Lol
15:26 < scwizard> i forget if that stems from the unitarian part of the universalist part
15:26 < Pebbles5> Who wanna be a Christian Rapper?
15:26 < scwizard> but yeah UUs believe that if heaven is real then everyone goes there
15:26 < MikeSeth> в нашей стране всё делается через задницу, кроме клизмы
15:27 < alazare619> so i got nearly 100hrs of vacation...
15:27 < estranger> Remember Icey Hot Stunaz?
15:27 < asimon> That hasn't been my experience scwizard
15:27 < alazare619> i think its time to take one...
15:27 < mrWhiteMD> MikeSeth: дада
15:27 < estranger> Blaze is a Christian rapper now
15:27 < scwizard> asimon: eh really?
15:27 < mrWhiteMD> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6vOvu4gzhw
15:27 <+layer-eight> * mrWhiteMD →  YouTube → Recruiting Tomorrow's Satanists - The Jim Jefferies Show → ⚘ 659,000 ↑ 12,017 ↓ 376 ✍ 1,165 → * Content Restrictions
15:27 < asimon> I was raising in a UU church and it pretty much seemed to be a "choose your own adventure" kind of church.
15:28 < asimon> They really emphasized that there was no creed - you could believe in god, in gods, in no gods, etc
15:28 < estranger> Uu?
15:28 < asimon> unitarian universalist
15:28 < Pebbles5> estranger: your name is Ross or Russ?
15:28 < estranger> Hmm well alright
15:28 < estranger> I'm Russ,  Mr Dox
15:29 < scwizard> asimon: well there's historical origins in christian universalism, which believes that everyone will be reconciled with god ie saved
15:29 < asimon> That's true, but I don't think that's what it's evolved to
15:30 < scwizard> asimon: i grew up UU to, well easter/passover and christmas uu lol
15:30 < asimon> Maybe my UU church was just especially hippie lol
15:30 < scwizard> they definitely have a creed of some sorts, like being anti lgbt is definitely against their creed
15:30 < asimon> We had multiple years in sunday school where we talked to folks from different faiths (incl. islam, wicca, cathoicism, judaism, buddhism) so we could decide for ourselves what our personal truth/meaning were
15:31 < scwizard> they have a set of 7 principles
15:31 < asimon> Yeah eyah
15:32 < scwizard> anyways apparently i'm a christian now
15:32 < scwizard> idk how it happened
15:32 < estranger> Blessed be
15:32 < Nightcinder> why do i get error 1079 when i go to start winrm
15:33 < Nightcinder> why do i have to manually change it to network service
15:33 < Nightcinder> i've never had this problem before this specific company
15:33 < Pebbles5> Why are we talking about religion in a sysadmin channel? ;)
15:33 < estranger> Fucked up gpo somewhere?
15:33 < Nightcinder> because i brought it up
15:33 < asimon> Pebbles5: We're talking about turning off your faith and turning it back on again
15:33 < estranger> 3 times
15:33 < SynMonger> because we've all had to call the exorcist on that one computer
15:34 < abakedapplepie> oh god i did work for a UU church before
15:34 < abakedapplepie> fucking. dirty ass. hippies.
15:34 < estranger> I live next to a giant giant church
15:34 < Pebbles5> Worship Stallman!
15:34 < Pebbles5> Heil Stallman! /S
15:34 < abakedapplepie> i was hanging an AP during a "youth group" and i overheard one of the kids probably around 18 saying how god told him to go to electric forest
15:34 < asimon> abakedapplepie: We had actual sex ed in church at age 6 and age 14
15:34 < Pebbles5> JK
15:34 < estranger> Cops have to direct traffic every Sunday for it
15:34 < scwizard> so you know how some women can masturbate by crossing their legs in a certain way?
15:35 < MadCamel> I worked next to a church the size of a stadium in a high-rent biz park.. What a racket
15:35 < scwizard> one time i was at a UU church and after the service they had a meeting or something
15:35 < scwizard> and one of the woman there was def doing that
15:35 < scwizard> :|
15:35 < abakedapplepie> cum for jesus
15:35 < L3gacy> Hey peeps.  If anyone remembers, I had a friend pass in January.  The COD came in.  Fentanyl.  Please check on any addicts you know of you consider friends, and be there for them.  Any little bit can help them want to kick the habit :(
15:35 < abakedapplepie> or mohammed
15:35 < abakedapplepie> or buddha
15:35 < hxcsp> MadCamel: the kind of churches where the pastor has 6 jets? hah
15:35 < abakedapplepie> depends on who theyre worshipping that day
15:35 < Nightcinder> fentanyl is spooky stuff
15:35 < Pebbles5> abakedapplepie: is Jesus a Mexican Guy?
15:35 < Nightcinder> and it's not even remotely the most dangerous
15:35 < estranger> L3gacy: sorry to hear.. That stuff is crazy dangerous
15:36 < L3gacy> estranger, ty :(
15:36 < L3gacy> He left behind two daughters/  3 and 11
15:36 < abakedapplepie> thats sad
15:36 < estranger> Wow
15:36 < hxcsp> :(
15:36 < Nightcinder> carfentanil is the new drug, 100x more powerful than fentanyl
15:36 < abakedapplepie> all of the addicts i know are dead or recovered by now
15:36 < estranger> Nightcinder: da hell
15:36 < Nightcinder> ya
15:36 < Nightcinder> there's one even stronger iirc
15:36 < L3gacy> the 11 yr old has been diagnosed with PTSD and Schiz, too :(  So the mother is having a shite time
15:36 < Hatter> Humpaxx: you fucking what
15:37 < Hatter> Humpaxx: I've never even heard of you
15:37 < abakedapplepie> who would possibly want to make a stronger fentanyl
15:37 < abakedapplepie> its already extremely strong
15:37 < abakedapplepie> that seems retarded
15:37 < Nightcinder> because you can transport more
15:37 < estranger> Yeah
15:37 < MadCamel> hxcsp: yup. fancy cars in the special parking area all day etc
15:37 < Nightcinder> smaller doses = same high = more money
15:37 < estranger> Your mules are worth a lot more now
15:37 < abakedapplepie> i mean how much fentanyl are you transporting at a certain point
15:37 < abakedapplepie> when a spec is a dose
15:37 < scwizard> abakedapplepie: there's some people out there who take pride in how immoral they are
15:37 < SynMonger> a lot?
15:37 < abakedapplepie> a gallon ziploc is enough to take out an entire city
15:38 < L3gacy> I want a gun, just to shoot dealers, tbh.  I KNOW it's wrong, but I have so much sadness and rage now, over this, and the fact he left behind two daughters, that loved him dearly.
15:38 < scwizard> what kinda people do you think join a cartel
15:38 < hxcsp> MadCamel: theres a pretty famous one of those here in Houston.  last year when it flooded, they closed the doors of their church and wouldnt let people in.  Then when they realized it made them look bad, they changed their mind.
15:38 < SynMonger> large hospitals are doing surgery 24/7
15:38 < Nightcinder> Fentanyl is about 100X stronger than morphine.
15:38 < Nightcinder> Carfentanyl is about 100X stronger than fentanyl.
15:38 < Nightcinder> Ohmefentanyl is about 3.8X stronger than carfentanyl.
15:38 < MadCamel> hxcsp: oh yeah I remember that!
15:38 < L3gacy> Joel Osteen
15:38 < hxcsp> yup
15:38 < scwizard> L3gacy: it's really heartbreaking how unconditionally children can love sometimes...
15:38 <+TuxedoJack> hxcsp: we never should have sold that motherfucker the Summit
15:38 < MadCamel> constitutionally sanctioned scam artists
15:39 < Nightcinder> 500g of fentanyl can wipe out a city
15:39 < hxcsp> TuxedoJack: lol
15:39 <+TuxedoJack> Fuck that Compaq Center shit, it's always going to be the Summit to me
15:39 < scwizard> i doubt he was very good to his daughters considering his addition, but...
15:39 < L3gacy> I am crying over what the 3 yr old said at the funeral
15:39 < L3gacy> "When is daddy going to wake up?"
15:39 < Nightcinder> you'd be surprised scwizard
15:39 < mrWhiteMD> Nightcinder: i see you are familiar with that...
15:39 < Nightcinder> a lot of addicts shield their kids from their life
15:39 < scwizard> interesting
15:40 < L3gacy> I asked the 11 yr old if she was going to be ok, and she said, "I dont even know any more"
15:40 < Nightcinder> and everything is normal until ded
15:40 < scwizard> i've had the luck of not being close to any addicts
15:40 < scwizard> having no friends kinda helps with that I guess idk
15:40 < Nightcinder> mrWhiteMD: nope
15:40 < L3gacy> My uncle caught HIV from needle sharing
15:40 < scwizard> (I shouldn't say that I have a couple of friends)
15:40 < L3gacy> Clean for 25 years now, and still in good health, relatively
15:40 < abakedapplepie> i know 4 dead addicts and one recovered
15:40 < abakedapplepie> :|
15:40 < estranger> 3 is rough.. doesn't grasp death yet
15:41 < Nightcinder> does 11 truly grasp death either?
15:41 < abakedapplepie> and the recovered one should be dead tbh
15:41 < hxcsp> I have a cousin who got caught selling meth to support her habit. Skipped bail and left her 2 year old daughter with her grandmother.  Havent seen her since. Sends a postcard every once and a while
15:41 < hxcsp> her daughters 21 now
15:41 < L3gacy> She asked her mom the other day, "When am I getting daddy back?"
15:41 < scwizard> Nightcinder: 11 year olds def do
15:41 < L3gacy> I hate dealers
15:41 < estranger> Most of my friends were rejects heh lots ODd.. some recovered and then relapsed and ODd.. stick to weed, kids
15:42 < L3gacy> CBD oil here
15:42 < L3gacy> Anxiety from hell
15:42 < Nightcinder> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/07/no-you-cant-patent-the-ability-to-pause-a-lesson-recording-eff-says/ patent system isn't broken at all right guys
15:42 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  No, you can’t patent the ability to pause a lesson recording, EFF says | Ars Technica
15:42 < estranger> Word
15:42 < MadCamel> I just cut addicts outta my life as soon as they start acting shifty. Not worth dealing with that kinda BS. As a reformed addict I see addiction as both a disease but also as a matter of personal responsibility. You can get clean if you want to, with proper medical help
15:42 < Nightcinder> i don't *think* i know any addicts
15:42 < Nightcinder> but i could be wrong
15:42 < Nightcinder> probably am
15:42 < L3gacy> MadCamel, I had one guy snort vicodin in my house.  Had to call 911.  His lips went blue and he was cyanotic
15:42 < estranger> MadCamel: yup
15:43 < L3gacy> My room mate was friends with him.  Not anymore
15:43 < scwizard> one of my childhood friends is a recovered addict, but when he was using he was way too cool to hang out with a square like me idk
15:43 < estranger> I used to do quite a lot of drugs but not the crazy addictive stuff thank God
15:43 < scwizard> after rehab, he still had an alcohol issue, but like he didn't have any of his drug friends, and he wanted to hang out with me
15:44 < estranger> Spend a few days in the woods eating mushrooms :)
15:44 < scwizard> and we got in an argument and i ended up pouring out a bottle of liquor he had stashed in his room and we didn't talk for like 3 years
15:44 < abakedapplepie> snort... vicodin
15:44 < abakedapplepie> that sounds awful
15:44 < L3gacy> he almost died from it
15:44 < abakedapplepie> why tho
15:45 < abakedapplepie> i mean im not gonna say ive done it but
15:45 < mrWhiteMD> scwizard: so, ones a week to drink it's an alcool issue ?
15:45 < L3gacy> I have no idea
15:45 < abakedapplepie> that shouldnt kill you
15:45 < estranger> Heh I took away pills from someone in my house and they called the cops saying I had them at gunpoint.. that was fun
15:45 < abakedapplepie> unless it was a lot
15:45 < scwizard> mrWhiteMD: nono, he was drunk all the time
15:45 < scwizard> (where did I say once a week?)
15:45 < estranger> Good thing I'm white
15:45 < mrWhiteMD> no, i
15:46 < scwizard> if you consistently have periods where you're sober you're not an alcoholic lol
15:46 < scwizard> don't worry mate
15:46 < technonerd> so airwatch is down at work
15:46 < mrWhiteMD> no, i want to figure it out if i have an alcohol issue )
15:46 < estranger> mrWhiteMD: drinking once a month could be a problem.. there are daily drinker alcoholics, and binge drinking alcoholics
15:47 < Pebbles5> This is Sys Admin Chat or AA?
15:47 < mrWhiteMD> :D
15:47 < estranger> Yes
15:47 < abakedapplepie> little of column a, little of column b
15:47 < MadCamel> Pebbles5: There's not much difference
15:47 < mrWhiteMD> Every Sysadmin drinks !
15:47 < estranger> Drinking, drugs, and bad spelling all goes hand in hand with sys admin
15:47 < MadCamel> Sysadmins and bass players are the two heaviest drinking groups of people I've ever met
15:47 <+TuxedoJack> estranger: you shut your fucking mouth
15:48 <+TuxedoJack> Bad spelling is part of being on the HELPDESK
15:48 < estranger> And beyond
15:48 < L3gacy> I chug tequila on occasion.
15:48 < L3gacy> And I mean chug
15:48 < L3gacy> I'm glad I'm out.  Today would be one of those days
15:49 < Pebbles5> On the other hand, I hardly ever see programmers drinking
15:49 < Humpaxx> TuxedoJack: Spelling or bad grammar as well?
15:49 < L3gacy> Programmers make sysadmins drink
15:49 < estranger> Lol
15:49 < Pebbles5> Lol
15:49 < mrWhiteMD> Lo
15:49 < mrWhiteMD> Lol
15:49 < Pebbles5> Fi
15:50 < MadCamel> I've seen programmers smoke massive amounts of marijuana though. Like amounts that would turn a normal human into a gibbering idiot
15:50 < estranger> Sounds like it make a good programmer
15:50 < estranger> I'd
15:51 < L3gacy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHbLuIxw3y4
15:51 <+layer-eight> * L3gacy →  YouTube → Take On Me - a-ha - Brooklyn Duo at Carnegie Hall → ⚘ 3,540,117 ↑ 105,154 ↓ 750 ✍ 3,082
15:51 < L3gacy> This is amaze
15:51 < syere> im having a hard time thinking of anyone in IT that doesn't smoke pot or drink
15:51 < estranger> How would you keep your sanity?
15:51 < L3gacy> Even has an oboe player
15:51 < abakedapplepie> syere im sure the poor bastard exists somewhere
15:51 < syere> abakedapplepie: im sure they do. I feel for them
15:52 < estranger> Now I'm in sales and we drink even more
15:52 < Pebbles5> estranger: in celebration?
15:52 < corn266> I had a coworker brag that he drinks so little his wine goes bad in the bottle
15:52 < estranger> As part of the job!
15:52 < estranger> And celebration
15:53 < MadCamel> bandwidth provider reps party hard..
15:53 < estranger> End up on lots of overnight trips too so you drink
15:53 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol
15:53 <+AnonymooseReddtr> estranger yep
15:53 < abakedapplepie> corn266: he sounds boring
15:54 < estranger> I can expense booze, it's great
15:54 < Pebbles5> Send him to Oktoberfest
15:55 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yeah
15:55 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i can too but only 1 or 2
15:56 < Pebbles5> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Oktoberfest_bierzelt.JPG
15:56 < Humpaxx> Does transmitting UDP require less bandwidth since its pretty much a one-way transmission?
15:56 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 351,980 bytes
15:57 < estranger> Humpaxx: typically yes..
15:58 <+AnonymooseReddtr> hmm
15:58 < estranger> Less overhead in general
15:58 <+AnonymooseReddtr> Any of you guys use starwind vtl?
15:58 <@JollyRgrs> AND I WILL WALK FIVE HUNDRED MILES AND-A I WILL WALK FIVE HUNDRED MORE
15:59 <+AnonymooseReddtr> :D
15:59 <@JollyRgrs> (this time i'm yelling it)
15:59 <+AnonymooseReddtr> sup JollyRgrs
15:59 <@JollyRgrs> not much, AnonymooseReddtr
15:59 <@JollyRgrs> feeling pretty dope
15:59 < mrWhiteMD> estranger: so what the diference if i would send 10bytes by udb or 10bytes tcp ? ))))
15:59 <@JollyRgrs> i'm at my half-way point for certificates at home
15:59 <+AnonymooseReddtr> nice
15:59 <+AnonymooseReddtr> good job
15:59 <@JollyRgrs> got all LE certs added to the services i wanted
15:59 <@JollyRgrs> and documented what i have to do, with a script of how to add it to unifi controller
16:00 <@JollyRgrs> i just need to script out adding it to plex (simple copy file and restart service) and freenas (much more difficult)
16:00 < Pebbles5> JollyRgrs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADN1lLEp3H0
16:00 < estranger> mrWhiteMD: shush you :) but if your payload is 10b you could send it with less overhead using udp... With the caveats of using udp
16:00 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  YouTube → 500 miles - Peter, Paul and Mary [Original Audio] → ⚘ 5,753,039 ↑ 22,548 ↓ 681 ✍ 1,447
16:02 <@JollyRgrs> Pebbles5: wow, i gotta admit, i'm usually pretty on top of my game for oldies, but i forgot about this song... it's just too slow and dampy... evne for a peter paul and mary song
16:02 <@JollyRgrs> gimme some puff the magic dragon from them, lol
16:03 <@JollyRgrs> dang, forgot to grab a banana at home
16:03 <@JollyRgrs> i'm starvin
16:03 <@JollyRgrs> no bananas at work either (soemtimes they have them)
16:04 < estranger> We got a full stocked kitchen and catered lunch at work.. glad I don't work in the HQ I'd get so fat
16:04 < Pebbles5> Whenever people talk about Peter, Paul and Mary they talk about Blowing in the Wind, but this is actually a pretty good song ;)
16:04 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: lol
16:04 <@JollyRgrs> Pebbles5: eh, it's just too slow for me
16:05 <@JollyRgrs> not a bad song, just really drags
16:05 < estranger> I'm known for taking a cup full of m&Ms there and pounding them
16:05 < Pebbles5> JollyRgrs: what are some fast songs then? ;)
16:05 <@JollyRgrs> also, the lowfi recordings of most of their stuff really isn't good b/c her high voice seems to peak the equipment used to record
16:05 <@JollyRgrs> Pebbles5: you are asking for something FASTER than 500 miles by peter, paul, and mary?
16:06 <@JollyRgrs> 99.9999% of the rest of the songs of the world
16:06 <@JollyRgrs> aside from that one song that is played where each note can last a number of years
16:06 < estranger> Wut
16:06 < estranger> Kenny g
16:06 < corn266> he means grunge
16:06 < Hatter> Pebbles5: that was lovely. thank you
16:06 <@JollyRgrs> https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/curious-fact-of-the-week-slow-organ
16:06 <+layer-eight> * JollyRgrs →  Curious Fact of the Week: The Slowest Song - Atlas Obscura
16:07 <@JollyRgrs> "The organ was built specifically for the performance, with only six pipes. Each chord can stretch for months to a year with the changes coming from adjustments of weights on different pedals."
16:08 < Hatter> that seems like it could get dull after a while
16:08 <@JollyRgrs> ya think? lol
16:08 < estranger> Rather die than listen to that whole song
16:08 <@JollyRgrs> estranger: i don't think you have a choice
16:09 <@JollyRgrs> unless you find the fountain of youth
16:09 < Pebbles5> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye5BuYf8q4o
16:09 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  YouTube → Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama → ⚘ 58,770,426 ↑ 265,337 ↓ 11,155 ✍ 17,271
16:09 <@JollyRgrs> Pebbles5: that works
16:09 <@JollyRgrs> they are about to finally retire
16:10 <@JollyRgrs> by they... i think there's only 1 (or is it 2) orig members left :(
16:11 < Pebbles5> Didn't the first band formed in 1964?
16:11 < Pebbles5> That's a long time
16:11 <@JollyRgrs> yeah
16:11 < hxcsp> i saw them at the rodeo one year
16:11 <@JollyRgrs> and they survived half the band dying in a plane crash (more than half?)
16:12 < Pebbles5> I think they were not active for a while
16:12 <@JollyRgrs> well, not actively touring maybe
16:12 <@JollyRgrs> that happens over teh course of a long time
16:12 < hxcsp> they are touring now
16:12 < hxcsp> doing their last tour
16:12 <@JollyRgrs> hxcsp: yup
16:12 < hxcsp> also Ozzy doing his last tour
16:12 <@JollyRgrs> dang
16:12 < hxcsp> going to see that show
16:12 <@JollyRgrs> #EndOfAnEra
16:13 < Humpaxx> Is Ozzy still alive? I didnt think bats lived that long
16:14 < khelpw> How many last tours is he doing?
16:14 < hxcsp> well this the second
16:14 < SynMonger> how many will you pay to see?
16:14 < Humpaxx> khelpw: this might be his final tour :p
16:14 < hxcsp> so if he makes it through this one...
16:14 < hxcsp> second "last tour"
16:14 < hxcsp> but i did see a video from this year, and he doesnt sound bad compared to the other times ive seen him
16:15 < Hatter> Humpaxx: Who are you and when did you "tell me off"
16:15 < Hatter> Humpaxx: were you hoping I missed that?
16:15 < Pebbles5> Didn't Black Sabbath retire last year?
16:16  * MikeSeth stops squid
16:17 < felda> let me make a huge fuckin website
16:17 < felda> then I'll make sure it isn't inside of my company's ASN
16:18 < felda> that way when people want to whitelist my company in the firewall they'll have to do it all manually :D
16:18 < felda> FUCKIN GENIUS
16:18  * felda is definitely not angry
16:19 < Hatter> I never got into black sabbath or ozzy
16:24 < Pebbles5> RHCP?
16:25 < vavkamil> are you guys using firewall on home network?
16:27 < Pebbles5> Hatter: so basically you are not into Heavy metal?
16:28 < Hatter> of course not, that stuff is for kids
16:28 < Pebbles5> ;)
16:30 < Hatter> I'm enjoying a little Renaissance
16:30 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B578LuXbPI
16:30 <+layer-eight> * Hatter →  YouTube → Renaissance - Sight & Sound  Live at BBC -  1977 → ⚘ 568,585 ↑ 3,847 ↓ 57 ✍ 626
16:30 < vavkamil> how is that japanese child metam called?
16:31 < vavkamil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKqgE4BwAY
16:31 <+layer-eight> * vavkamil →  YouTube → BABYMETAL - ギミチョコ！！- Gimme chocolate!! (OFFICIAL) → ⚘ 90,173,506 ↑ 656,274 ↓ 41,348 ✍ 85,459
16:31 < hxcsp> seen ozzy once before, black sabbath with ozzy once, and black sabbath with dio once
16:32 < vavkamil> I'm trying to find a post about free Splunk alternative that was released yesterday and can't find anything :(
16:32 < abakedapplepie> elk? :P
16:34 < khelpw> Anyone here around Denver/Boulder have any suggestions for good hikes other than a vague "RMNP"?
16:34 < vavkamil> no it was literally released yesterday, it was posted on /r/sysadmin or /r/netsec but seems like mods deleted it
16:35 < khelpw> I'm thinking of doing the Royal Arch trail, Red Rocks Trail, and maybe the Green Mountain West Trail
16:37 < vavkamil> found it https://www.gravwell.io/blog/gravwell-community-edition
16:37 <+layer-eight> * vavkamil →  Gravwell Community Edition
16:38 < abakedapplepie> khelp uou could hike the old indian trail that goes through RMNP :P
16:38 < abakedapplepie> forgot the name now
16:38 < khelpw> I'm not looking for anything too crazy, just day hikes.
16:38 < abakedapplepie> i wish i had time for hikes when i toured some parks
16:38 < abakedapplepie> we had just enough time to do a drive thru and thats it
16:39 < abakedapplepie> really wish i could have gone offroad at arches for a half day
16:39 < khelpw> I plan my trips around hikes for the most part.
16:39 < abakedapplepie> we were driving cross country for something else, but had enough time to check out rnmp arches zion and grand canyon
16:40 < abakedapplepie> just a few hours at each though
16:40 < khelpw> You can hit a few hikes in Zion within a couple hours.
16:40 < abakedapplepie> zion was so far out of the way we had no time whatsoever to actually see the park
16:40 < khelpw> Fuck man, Zion is currently my #1 favorite place on earth
16:40 < khelpw> shit is like Disney to me
16:40 < abakedapplepie> yeah i was really excited to spend a day there
16:40 < abakedapplepie> i planned on having an overnight in zion
16:41 < abakedapplepie> just didnt work though
16:41 < abakedapplepie> we ended up staying in denver longer than planned
16:41 < abakedapplepie> one day ill get back out there for a real parks trip
16:41 < abakedapplepie> probably in about 20 years
16:41 < abakedapplepie> god ill be 50
16:41 < abakedapplepie> ugh
16:42 < khelpw> My trip in December was Fly into Vegas, spend 2 days there -> Grand canyon and a 3 mile hike down the south ridge -> Page AZ and Antelope Canyon, Horseshoe Bend etc -> Zion where we hit pretty much everything in the main valley except Angels landing (closed due to ice) and the narrows (fuck that in December)
16:43 < khelpw> then back to Vegas. With small hikes on the way between them all
16:43 < khelpw> Gotta break up that drive through the desert somehow, afterall
16:45 < Hatter> hey guys I'm new to computers, how can I print this vertically large image on multiple pages instead of trying to fit it all on one?
16:45 < aName> >new to computers >on IRC >in sysadmin channel
16:45 <+giant_it_burrit> he isnt new
16:45 <+giant_it_burrit> stop
16:45 < Hatter> can we just focus on the question please
16:46 < insecurity> i had a question once
16:46 < aName> No.
16:46 < insecurity> best day of my life.
16:46 < aName> Hatter: Question for your question - what OS?
16:47 < abakedapplepie> who here uses Dynamics again
16:47 < abakedapplepie> i need halp
16:47 < Nightcinder> https://i.imgur.com/eCDN2lZ.gifv
16:47 <+layer-eight> * Nightcinder →  IMGUR Image → Image/gif → an hour ago → 300x200 → Animated → ⚘ 5,457
16:47 < hxcsp> question for your question of your question - whats an OS?
16:47 < aName> Err actually
16:47 < aName> Nevermind
16:47 < Hatter> aName: W10
16:47 < aName> I remembered this https://rasterbator.net/
16:47 < aName> OS Irrelevant
16:47 < hxcsp> abakedapplepie: we just replaced dynamics. f that shit.
16:47 < Hatter> what's that
16:47 < abakedapplepie> hxcsp lol
16:47 < abakedapplepie> do you know anything about bulk imports and duplicate detetcion
16:48 < abakedapplepie> it doesnt seem like i can do what i want to do
16:48 < hxcsp> no, we had a contractor that handled most of it
16:48 < hxcsp> sorry
16:48 < abakedapplepie> damn
16:48 < aName> Hatter: It does what you asked - it takes an image and stretches it to multiple pages for large-format printing
16:48 < Hatter> well I'll give it a shot
16:48 < abakedapplepie> oh yeah rasterbater is neat
16:48 < abakedapplepie> i forgot about that
16:48 < Hatter> Is my image confidential?
16:48 <+TuxedoJack> Rasterbater?
16:48 < abakedapplepie> assume not
16:49 <+TuxedoJack> Damn, haven't heard that name in YEARS
16:49 <+TuxedoJack> Not since Chanology
16:49 <+TuxedoJack> We used that for massive protest signs
16:50 < Hatter> TuxedoJack: it was worth it, now you guys can get married
16:52 < Hatter> aName: thanks
16:54 < Humpaxx> Hatter: Savage
16:54 < Humpaxx> And clever
16:55 < aName> Hatter: np
16:55 < Hatter> Humpaxx: you said this morning you told me off a few times, were you just trying to get some street cred?
16:57 < Humpaxx> Hatter: Yes, Your name was the first to come to mind and i had to show MiLLERBOSS i wasn´t a new guy
16:57 < Hatter> well alright
16:58 < Humpaxx> But you better not mouth off or i´ll tell you off real good
16:58 < Humpaxx> Im vegetarian too so im not afraid of you having a beef
17:00 < Humpaxx> Alright, its 5PM so its time to go home and sit in front of a computer.
17:00 < Humpaxx> Laters everyone - and Hatter
17:00 < Hatter> have a nice day
17:00 < Humpaxx> You too Hatter.
17:01 < narziss> Good morning.
17:02 < narziss> On my way to work i looked to the side of the road where the construction was happening, and saw a man lying on the pavement. Had that real "knocked the fuck out" look to him, face down on the pavement, his back bent over a little, legs stiff under him, arms at his side.
17:02 < narziss> Construction workers smirking.
17:03 < narziss> Really made me want to quit my office job.
17:03 < asimon> Shit. Did you see if they were okay?
17:06 < Hatter> asimon: He's regretting that he wasn't part of or closer to the violence, I don't think he's that sort of person
17:09 < asimon> :(
17:10 < aName> I mean, I've got a few coworkers I'd knock out given the opportunity.
17:10 < scwizard> "While deploying 11.1.0 RC7 to we experienced higher than normal database load which is causing site degradation - we are investigating to pinpoint the cause."
17:10 < scwizard> gitlab...
17:11 < scwizard> me on the right gitlab on the left: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jl17CYYSzUw/maxresdefault.jpg (sfw)
17:11 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 154,052 bytes
17:12 < asimon> What we really need is to train layer-eight on the three quarters of reddit that's NSFW
17:12 <+DrGibby|> Well then get your shit together, get it all together and put it in a back pack, all your shit, so it's together.
17:12 <+DrGibby|> And if you gotta take it some where, take it somewhere, you know, take it to the shit store and sell it, or put it in the shit museum. I don't care what you do, you just gotta get it together.
17:12 < asimon> So it can scan images and tell us if they're okay to view or not
17:12 <+DrGibby|> Get your shit together.
17:13 < asimon> Actually that's not a bad idea
17:13 < asimon> +1 asimon
17:13 < scwizard> DrGibby|: exactly, that is what gitlab needs to do
17:13 <@JollyRgrs> goin to a great diner today and they have some superb blackened pork chops....
17:13 < corn266> asimon, compile the images and i'll gladly train a classifier on it
17:13 <@JollyRgrs> the question is... do i get them (like always)... or something diff?
17:13 < asimon> Do you think reddit already does that?
17:13 < scwizard> i'm super frustrated right now because there's no sane way to say "get the artifacts of the last successful job"
17:13 < alazare619> people who use confluence
17:13 <+giant_it_burrit> diff
17:14 <+giant_it_burrit> yes alazare619
17:14 < alazare619> can confluence be setup in such a way that anyone can view it?
17:14 < scwizard> if you try and download the latest artifacts and the most recent job failed then fuck you lol
17:14 < alazare619> i.e. does view count towards a license?
17:14 < asimon> I guess Google/Bing/etc have already trained that kind of algorithm for their safe search options
17:14 < scwizard> but i don't want to upload all our artifacts to s3 because that costs money yo
17:14 < Anaphylaxis> great.. shared drive through whole company has "Everyone" and "Users" full access, but now this 1 new employee they want to not have access to ANY folder except 1..
17:14 < alazare619> i.e. we are thinking about 50 people would need edit access to confluence but say 800 employees read access
17:15 < asimon> Can you imagine walking into work one day and having your boss sit you down to say "Okay for the next year you're going to teach a computer what porn looks like"
17:16 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: i beleive they county
17:16 < alazare619> asimon: FOR SCIENCE!
17:16 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: you would need to set it as anon access
17:16 < EKAJ> i may have bought a crack house
17:16 <+giant_it_burrit> wut
17:16 <+giant_it_burrit> r u selling?
17:16 <@JollyRgrs> asimon: and nothing but 2 cups 1 girl for you :P
17:16 < ekaj> well not literally crack but reposessed
17:16 <@JollyRgrs> not looking like such a cushy job now, eh?
17:16 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: https://imgur.com/a/FBbivAQ#kg2UVK0
17:16 <+layer-eight> * giant_it_burrit →  Private Imgur Album
17:17 <+giant_it_burrit> not what i was looking for
17:17 <+giant_it_burrit> https://confluence.atlassian.com/confeval/confluence-evaluator-resources/confluence-read-only-access-and-licensing
17:17 <+giant_it_burrit> that is
17:17 <+layer-eight> * giant_it_burrit →  Confluence: Read-only access and licensing - Atlassian Documentation
17:19 < aName> TIL that the reason customers keep calling my desk is because some dumbass put my desk number as the billing number for the company
17:20 < aName> So people read their credit card statements and end up calling me about it
17:20 < aName> And I'm like 'Uhhh, is your email working? Cool."
17:21 < corn266> "No this is patric"
17:21 < ekaj> `bofh
17:21 <+layer-eight> BOFH Jan  9 16:41:27 huber su: 'su root' succeeded for .... on /dev/pts/1
17:25 < Jekotia> Just had a user call me about Windows taking a long time to update, and then ask me if the update is to fix the Excel crashes they had this morning that sent data to Microsoft... LOL
17:27 < aName> Jekotia: Oh, to be so optimistic.
17:27 < asimon> Yeah Microsoft should get back to you within a business day
17:28  * asimon /s
17:28 < AnimalFarmPig_> the boss has got them working in shifts trying to solve that excel crash
17:29 < corn266> Literally all of India is working on the problem
17:29 < aName> We've got this one report that crashes any version of excel newer than 2007
17:29 < aName> But only if you select a bunch of cells repeatedly
17:29 < aName> I fuckin hate it
17:30 < aName> And I have no idea what to do about it
17:30 < narziss> ... and I'm back.
17:30 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619: you see the thing
17:30 < narziss> and no, it was not because i wanted to partake in the violence, though i dont shy from it.
17:31 < narziss> The construction dudes looks happy enough standing out there in the sun and the breeze, despite the body at their feet.
17:31 < narziss> Summer ist great.
17:31 <+giant_it_burrit> i hate the heat
17:31 <+giant_it_burrit> i can only be so naked
17:31 < narziss> not as naked as the fat women who insist on wearing spandex.
17:31 < narziss> i realized this morning they probably do that cuz, fuck it, they are practically naked anyway.
17:33 < aName> narziss: Spandex is a privilege, not a right.
17:34 < narziss> My coworker thinks it is his right to change into his biking spandex at his desk.
17:34 < narziss> his desk is in the equivalent of the front row.
17:35 < aName> narziss: ewww. dude, use the bathroom
17:35 < aName> Especially since you have to be naked under the shorts for them to be effective
17:35 < aName> (the whole idea is strategically located seams and  padding, no good if you're just wearing them over normal clothing)
17:36 < aName> People used to make fun of me for the spandex shorts but damn, have you ever had a saddle sore? Shit sucks, yo
17:37 < narziss> saddle sore? wtf is that
17:38 < ekaj> when u get a sore from someone saddling your ass in bed
17:38 < jbroome> soreness from a bike seat.
17:38 < ekaj> `bofh
17:38 <+layer-eight> BOFH Computers under water due to syn flooding.
17:38 < aName> Basically a friction blister on your crotch
17:38 < ekaj> I get one of those when I bike a lot
17:38 < ekaj> not too bad though
17:39 < aName> I got like, grape-sized blisters, but I was cycling 50+km every day
17:39 < jbroome> holy ow
17:39 < aName> Yeah lol
17:40 < aName> I miss it though. I was so fuckin' fit
17:40 < aName> Had a resting heart rate in the mid-low 40s
17:40 < aName> >.<
17:40 < Hatter> aName: you're fit but my gosh don't you know it
17:40 <+DrGibby|> https://twitter.com/Tobias_Ellwood/status/1017023581195300864
17:40 <+layer-eight> * DrGibby| →  Tobias Ellwood on Twitter: "19.00hrs: 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 vs 🇭🇷  RAF get the party going...… "
17:40 < aName> Hatter: Naw, I fucked up my ankle and gained 50kg
17:40 < Hatter> aName: I was singing
17:40 < jbroome> i don't get to ride as much as i like
17:41 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEIRNj0EmH0
17:41 <+layer-eight> * Hatter →  YouTube → The Streets - Fit But You Know It (Official Video) → ⚘ 161,875 ↑ 1,732 ↓ 42 ✍ 72
17:41 < Hatter> Yes I know guys, rap is dumb, but that's a guilty pleasure
17:41 < abakedapplepie> i need a headset for my bike and itll be complete
17:41 < abakedapplepie> i havent been biking in years
17:41 < abakedapplepie> pretty excited
17:41 < abakedapplepie> but the headset is expensive
17:42 < abakedapplepie> my dad is ultra into bikes, hes building it from his parts pile for me
17:42 < abakedapplepie> biking has nearly killed him at least twice too
17:42 < abakedapplepie> i have a video of a widowmaker missing him by seconds
17:42 < abakedapplepie> crazy shit
17:43 < AnimalFarmPig_> Some place nearby is trying to hire people at $100/hr on a 3 month contract to do "Python + AWS Lambda". Sounds tempting, but Python + Lambda sounds an awful lot like Python + blockchain or Python + kubernetes or Python + OpenStack or Python + Microservices or Python + the technology and or architecture fad of the year
17:44 < scwizard> apparently it takes gitlab 40 minutes to rollback a release
17:44 < abakedapplepie> Hatter: whats coming home
17:44 < abakedapplepie> er
17:44 < abakedapplepie> DrGibby|
17:44 < AnimalFarmPig_> I'm imagining gitlab guys furiously clicking through https://sethrobertson.github.io/GitFixUm/fixup.html  and copy-pasting commands
17:44 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig_ →  On undoing, fixing, or removing commits in git
17:46 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: python + lambda is a real thing
17:46 < AnimalFarmPig> yes, I know. I have python code running on lambda in production.
17:47 < scwizard> yeah
17:47 < scwizard> the sketchy part is 3 month contract
17:47 < AnimalFarmPig> I suspect it's a try-before-you-buy kind of thing
17:47 < scwizard> the rate is sensible and the tech isn't too too faddy just cutting edge
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> apparently they're trying to hire something like 100 people
17:48 < scwizard> 6 month is standard for try before you buy
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> pls
17:48 < scwizard> that's also sketchy
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> lambda is as much of a fad as k8s
17:48 < scwizard> i mean
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> 9 times out of 10 you're better off just running a server
17:48 < scwizard> i'm not sure if that's more insulting to lambda or k8s
17:48 < AnimalFarmPig> and, before you say it, "no, you don't need to 'scale' that much"
17:48 < scwizard> but yeah i'm not using any w/ my current job
17:49 < scwizard> and we're pretty bleeding edge
17:49 < scwizard> *not using either
17:50 < AnimalFarmPig> this is what I worry about-- https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8xrek7/goodbye_microservices_from_100s_of_problem/e25hsz8/
17:50 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  threemanycats comments on Goodbye Microservices: From 100s of problem children to 1 superstar
17:51 < AnimalFarmPig> you know they're gonna go there
17:52 <+giant_it_burrit> alazare619:
17:52 < alazare619> what do you want you damn itallian
17:52 < alazare619> 👌
17:53 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ the game?
17:53 <+TuxedoJack> YOU MOTHERFUCKER
17:54 < Pebbles5> Hatter: rap? ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC4xMk98Pdc
17:54 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  YouTube → Post Malone - Congratulations ft. Quavo → ⚘ 815,681,567 ↑ 4,502,189 ↓ 296,766 ✍ 198,030
17:54 < Hatter> Pebbles5: gross
17:55 < Pebbles5> Lol
17:56 < alazare619> thinking about flashing back to stock straight from google android 8.1 on my 6p
17:58 < corn266> nexus 6p?
17:58 < alazare619> yea
17:58 < corn266> Do they make it easy to flash? Like unlocked bootloader and shit?
17:59 < Hatter> remember that security alert last week about samsung phones randomly sending pics from your library to random contacts
17:59 < Hatter> boy was that scary
17:59 < Hatter> I factory reset as soon as I read that article
18:00 < Anaphylaxis> which article?
18:00 < corn266> https://www.techtimes.com/articles/231479/20180629/samsung-messages-defect-sends-your-photos-to-random-people-without-your-permission.htm
18:00 <+layer-eight> * corn266 →  Samsung Messages Glitch Sends Your Private Photos To Random People Without Your Permission | Tech Times
18:00 < Anaphylaxis> oh yeah fuck samsung
18:00 < Sousapro> Hatter: someone  would be very bored if they saw mine
18:00 < Hatter> I wonder if there was a slight uptick in divorce filings as a result
18:01 < Sousapro> Hatter: so. many. motorcycle. pics
18:02 < grumplestiltzkin> corn266: that's amazing.   I'm not even mad, I'm impressed
18:02 < Pebbles5> Post Malone is one of top rappers right now according to Spotify ;)
18:03 < grumplestiltzkin> Pebbles5: where is phroggy phresh in the rankings?   if it isn't top 10, the rankings are fake news
18:07 < dragonfleas> hey sexy boys
18:07 < dragonfleas> this is dragonfleas gf
18:08 < dragonfleas> i have a serious question
18:08 < Hatter> oh hello
18:08 < dragonfleas> any of you guys know how I could get into web design?
18:08 < Pebbles5> Then again, Childish Gambino is also up there ;)
18:08 < corn266> Be a spider
18:08 <+giant_it_burrit> internet
18:08 < grumplestiltzkin> corn266++
18:09 < Hatter> don't tease her you guys
18:09 < abakedapplepie> https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8xy9nz/so_explain_me_why_kb4338814_another_windows/e26sitj/ oh thats good
18:09 < corn266> Slow down there Don Quixote
18:09 < jbroome> it's really dragonfleas asking bc he got fired after the delete accident yesterday
18:10 < Pebbles5> What's up with the old. Links
18:10 < dragonfleas> no, he's asleep and left his work laptop up and he talks about you guys a lot in a kinda creepy way
18:10 < Pebbles5> New Reddit design is way better
18:10 < Hatter> dragonfleas: I think you're fibbing
18:10 < corn266> Pebbles5--
18:10 < dragonfleas> i can send proof i am gf
18:10 < Hatter> go on
18:10 < dragonfleas> let me take a webcam picture real fast
18:10 < dragonfleas> one sec
18:11 <+giant_it_burrit> don't care
18:11 < DoctorDick> We're listening
18:11 <+giant_it_burrit> plz dont
18:11 <+giant_it_burrit> dont feed the trolls
18:11 < dragonfleas> look
18:11 < Hatter> giant_it_burrit: he's the one trolling
18:11 < corn266> Make sure you have today's newspaper
18:11 < dragonfleas> how do i get into web design
18:11 <+giant_it_burrit> we arent web devs
18:11 < DoctorDick> It's gonna be a butthole
18:11 <+giant_it_burrit> we fix problems
18:11 < Hatter> dragonfleas: you should download Hotdog Pro
18:11 < dragonfleas> LOL
18:11 < dragonfleas> it was me the whole time guiz
18:11 < dragonfleas> i tr0le u
18:11 < Hatter> oh really
18:11 <+giant_it_burrit> codeacademy
18:11 < corn266> oh fuck bamboozled
18:11 < corn266> giant_it_burrit, you know they started charging for courses?
18:12 < dragonfleas> have my devious flim flams caused you to relinquish your emotional well being
18:12 <+giant_it_burrit> rly?
18:12 < abakedapplepie> Pebbles5: you must be high on crack
18:12 <+giant_it_burrit> dragonfleas: still apathetic
18:12 < abakedapplepie> new reddit is awful and its missing a ton of basic features
18:12 < abakedapplepie> i have no clue why they are pushing new reddit as default when its still officially in beta
18:12 < Pebbles5> No just listening to Post Malone
18:12 < abakedapplepie> and frankly, i'd call it alpha
18:12 < dragonfleas> new reddit is garbage
18:12 < abakedapplepie> its a shit sandwich
18:12 < dragonfleas> no custom styles
18:12 < abakedapplepie> all the bullshit javascript theyve added is garbage too
18:13 < L3gacy> Just got a call to prep a proposal for a radio station.  6 PCs capable of Adobe AUdition, 2 rack servers, and a NAS :O
18:13 < corn266> So dragonfleas what happened yesterday
18:13 < Pebbles5> Do they still have that i.reddit site?
18:14 < corn266> after you got called into ceo office
18:14 < dragonfleas> meeting with CEO went well
18:14 < Pebbles5> Lol they still do
18:14 < dragonfleas> she gave me a good pat on the back for being so responsive and taking care of the company even in off hours or weekends, and that i show a lot of initiative
18:15 < dragonfleas> she didn't even really bring up the fact that i accidentally deleted all of the user profiles
18:15 < Pebbles5> Lol https://i.reddit.com/
18:15 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  reddit: the front page of the internet
18:15 < corn266> nice
18:16 < Pebbles5> I think it's Reddit's elaborate plan to get rid of custom styles, kinda like how Facebook and YouTube did back in the days
18:17 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
18:17 < Pebbles5> I won't even be surprised when they disable their third party API....
18:17 < AnimalFarmPig> each subreddit being able to define its own style makes it harder to have consistent B R A N D I N G
18:17 < Pebbles5> So third party Reddit apps would stop working
18:17 < L3gacy> So... friend has radio station and investors :O
18:17 < L3gacy> I got picked for rollout if proposal goes through :)
18:18 < AnimalFarmPig> gotta control the U S E R   E X P E R I E N C E
18:18 < Hatter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-HeNnzIH2A
18:18 <+layer-eight> * Hatter →  YouTube → Flight of the Conchords Band Meeting 24 FOTC Fires Murray "Rejected" → ⚘ 9,439 ↑ 0 ↓ 0 ✍ 0
18:18 < Pebbles5> Even if they do not disable they Third Party API, they may just cripple it by not adding new features to it kinda like what Twitter did
18:19 < Pebbles5> Remember, Reddit used to be Open Source, they went Closed Source a while back
18:20 < syere> I know it was going downhill before, but it seems like the old reddit died with than one C level came in, Pao or whatever her name was
18:20 < SynMonger> but muh baconreader
18:20 < corn266> Reddit is fun or none
18:20 < Pebbles5> Wait, people still use Baconreader?
18:21 < AnimalFarmPig> I just use i.reddit.com. No need for an app. Works great in Edge on W10 mobile.
18:21 < ny0x> dongers
18:21 < AnimalFarmPig> until there's a link to the new style mobile website, which still works, but is just shit design
18:21 < SynMonger> wait, people still use reddit?
18:22 < ny0x> there is people that don't use reddit?
18:22 < AnimalFarmPig> voat is too racist, imzy failed to launch, tildes is still in invite-only alpha...
18:22 < corn266> You could always go to /b/
18:22 < Nightcinder> fun fact, my xps 15 is the only computer that works with this 50' hdmi cord in our large conference room
18:23 < AnimalFarmPig> :|
18:23 < Nightcinder> fun fact, all the other laptops work when you plug in their respective docks
18:23 < Nightcinder> go if i plug in a WD15, all the latitudes work
18:23 < Nightcinder> if i plug in displayport to hdmi, it works
18:23 <+TuxedoJack> AnimalFarmPig: TOO FUCKING RIGHT. The new mobile Reddit sucks ass. i.reddit.com is infinitely fucking better
18:23 < Nightcinder> but straight hdmi doesn't work
18:23 < Nightcinder> anyone got an idea
18:24 < mcj> The new reddit redesign was clearly done by someone who has never used the site ever
18:24 < AnimalFarmPig> TuxedoJack: I don't know why they would change it. New one sucks. It's like they're trying to get people to use an app.
18:24 < mcj> Also nobody asked for a redesign
18:24 < mcj> Just keep it like Craigslist
18:24 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
18:24 < corn266> mcj, it was clearly done by someone who saw facebook make money and wanted it too
18:24 < AnimalFarmPig> serious businessmen brought in some design and UX consultants...
18:24 < mcj> You're probably not far off from that assumption
18:24 < rootsudo> What are some good movies
18:24 < rootsudo> about lif and such
18:24 < mcj> They probably saw the whole Facebook meltdown in front of congress thing and went
18:25 < mcj> HERE IS $100,000 MAKE THIS HAPPEN NOWWWWW
18:25 < mcj> WE NEED THE EXPATS
18:25 < corn266> rootsudo, the meaning of life
18:25 < Pebbles5> The new mobile design is really bad and also why is it so slow?
18:25 < grumplestiltzkin> rootsudo: th emovie 'up'
18:26 < grumplestiltzkin> also 'bridge to terebithia'
18:26 < AnimalFarmPig> ^ I thought maybe it was just that my 6 core phone with 3 GB of RAM was too low spec to run the new reddit site
18:26 < AnimalFarmPig> good to know that others experience slow
18:27 < AnimalFarmPig> rootsudo: baseketball, 10 things I hate about you, the dukes of hazzard
18:28 < grumplestiltzkin> rootsudo: 'where the red fern grows' (I think this one is on netflix)   or read the book
18:29 < GreyKite> What size monitor do y'all issue where you work? Do you have a different models?
18:30 < PipeItToDevNull> Server licensing can be applied to earlier versions, buy 2016 licesne 2012. Does VS work the same way? I need 2012 but it is not sold anywhere
18:30 < jbroome> i have 2x 24" dells
18:30 < GreyKite> jbroome: what res?
18:31 <+TuxedoJack> AnimalFarmPig: probably to allow in-app ads, if that's the case
18:31 < Pebbles5> If you are in Android use Sync or Boost, and iOS use Apollo or Readder
18:31 <@ravioli> PipeItToDevNull: if you don't end up finding an answer here, ##windows-server or ##windows might be able to help too.
18:31 < PipeItToDevNull> Good point
18:31 < jbroome> GreyKite: 1920x1080 i think
18:32 < scwizard> man s3 has bittorrent support?
18:33 < GreyKite> jbroome: thanks
18:39 < Sousapro> PipeItToDevNull: do you have MSDN licensing?
18:39 <+giant_it_burrit> PipeItToDevNull: what's the 1
18:39 <+giant_it_burrit> Q
18:39 < bmurt> scwizard: it does?
18:39 <+giant_it_burrit> Making my way downtown walking fast
18:40 < PipeItToDevNull> giant_it_burrit, ?
18:40 < Sousapro> PipeItToDevNull: and by MSDN, I think they've renamed it Visual Studio Subscriptions
18:40 <+giant_it_burrit> PipeItToDevNull what was your q
18:40 < PipeItToDevNull> Sousapro, you can get 17 as a sub or a straight license
18:40 < dragonfleas> Is there a way to migrate an on-prem VM from hyper-v to azure that isn't super complex?
18:40 < Sousapro> PipeItToDevNull: correct but the sub gives you access to older versions
18:41 < PipeItToDevNull> Ok, thank you
18:41 < PipeItToDevNull> giant_it_burrit, if VS licensing is retroactive like server
18:41 < felda> "Hey uh felda I think the firewall is blocking Fox News" Oh... oh no... that's really too bad
18:43 < aName> Hey, MS? Can you fucking activate the guest account when I set the guest account active? No? Fuck me? Ok.
18:43 < scwizard> bmurt: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/S3Torrent.html
18:43 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  Using BitTorrent with Amazon S3 - Amazon Simple Storage Service
18:43 < scwizard> apparently??
18:43 < int0x1C8> tell the guy you'll fix it, then redirect foxnews.com to meatspin
18:44 < asimon> :/ retrospect taking so long to get rid of old backup sets
18:44 < asimon> idk why we were storing the last 15 backups for each machine anyways
18:44 < bmurt> interesting
18:45 < asimon> I started the job 3 hours ago and it's still chugging away
18:48 < shanth> that's neat scwizard
18:52 < AnimalFarmPig> can only use bittorrent to distribute S3 objects <5GB in size. Seems like really big files would be exactly when you want to use torrent
18:52 <+giant_it_burrit> cryptic1:
18:52 <+giant_it_burrit> why are you online on origin
18:52 <+giant_it_burrit> plz work
18:53 < vavkamil> omg my father invited some guy that was looking for electromagnetic fields with two metal sticks in both hands :D
18:55 < corn266> sounds pretty legit
18:55 < corn266> though I'd think the EM field would have to be dangerously high for him to get a noticeable shock
18:58 < AnimalFarmPig> maybe he's actually looking for bombs, drugs, or ivory. Did he have one of these? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADE_651
18:58 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  ADE 651 - Wikipedia
18:59 < grumplestiltzkin> was it slippin jimmy's brother?
19:00 < asimon> grumplestiltzkin: I hated that guy so much
19:00 < asimon> Even at the points where they wanted you to feel bad
19:00 < grumplestiltzkin> Season 3 just came out on netflix, havent seen it yet.  iirc 2 left off with him recording the thing
19:06 < AnimalFarmPig> I watched the first episode of that when it came out because I heard it was a comedy. Looked like a serial drama to me.
19:07 < asimon> Def. not a comedy. There are some funny moments, but it's more like breaking bad than kimmy schmidt
19:07 < grumplestiltzkin> I would describe it like how breaking bad was, yeah, serial drama punctuated with comedy
19:09 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, not really my style. Similar thing happened with "Stranger Things." I misread the description or something and thought it was supposed to be a dark comedy. Watch the first two episodes waiting for it to get funny. :/
19:09 <+AnonymooseReddtr> heh
19:09 <+AnonymooseReddtr> breaking bad was not a comedy
19:14 < cantibot> afternoon everyone
19:15 < Matt_YO> If I installed google chrome to a pc via GPO, then created an application in SCCM and deployed chrome to that same PC.... what would happen?
19:15 < cantibot> man, I am so stumped right now...anyone up to trying to help me figure out why this subnet/vlan won't forward to the last resort router?
19:16 <+giant_it_burrit> Matt_YO: gpo would override it i would assume
19:16 <+giant_it_burrit> it would try to reinstall
19:16 < grumplestiltzkin> cantibot: sure
19:16 < cantibot> Thanks bud!
19:16 < grumplestiltzkin> cantibot: just offhandedly, are there any VRFs involved?
19:16 < Matt_YO> giant_it_burrit: you think the SCCM app would just recognize that its installed and just stop?
19:16 <+giant_it_burrit> might throw an error code tbh
19:17 < cantibot> VRF? I'm not sure I know what that is.
19:17 <+giant_it_burrit> virt reality fart
19:17 < cantibot> lol
19:17 < grumplestiltzkin> virtual route forwarding  - its like sectioning off a device where VLANs that are on one cna be segregated from the other VRFs  (thats effectively what you use it for)
19:18 < grumplestiltzkin> but if you dont have any VRFs, that's probably not it
19:18 < cantibot> Yea I don't have anything like that
19:18 < insecurity> is duck duck go broken for anyone else? returns no results for anything
19:18 < cantibot> I'll PM you my configs
19:18 < hxcsp> insecurity: yes it seems broken
19:20 < AnimalFarmPig> yeah, down for me too https://i.imgur.com/6OWM0of.png
19:20 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  IMGUR Image → Image/png → a few seconds ago → 1037x738 → ⚘ 15
19:20 < grumplestiltzkin> .yt strongbad the system is down
19:22 < insecurity> how do i search for a new search engine if my search engine is down?
19:23 < AnimalFarmPig> !'s still appear to be working fine on ddg
19:23 < Pebbles5> Yep the phone version of DuckDuckGo is working fine but not the desktop one
19:24 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol grumplestiltzkin
19:24 <+AnonymooseReddtr> ddg is down?
19:24 <+AnonymooseReddtr> nice
19:24 < m4221> This guy's drunk driving is funny
19:24 < m4221> http://www.wtae.com/article/report-man-told-police-he-wasnt-drinking-while-driving-just-at-stop-signs/22114311
19:24 <+layer-eight> * m4221 →  Report: Man told police he wasn't drinking while driving, just at stop signs
19:24 < AnimalFarmPig> if you don't have access to a search engine to find a new search engine, I bet you could guess the name of one-- like searchengine.com or webcrawler.com, etc.
19:25 < asimon> How will I know where to download more RAM
19:25 < asimon> when my computer is slow
19:25 < grumplestiltzkin> duckduckgo, startpage, ixquick are the 'safe' ones.  then epicbrowser has a google scraper too iirc
19:25 < arlion> Anyone need any linux help?
19:26 < arlion> or network help
19:26 < arlion> or security help
19:26 < arlion> I do everything but windows admin
19:26 < arlion> maybe ill use my time to do a ctf or two while I am epicly feeling not doing anything
19:27 < Pebbles5> "We are experiencing a network outage at the moment and apologize for the inconvenience. We will report back soon when it is fixed." https://twitter.com/DuckDuckGo/status/1017095240581308417
19:27 <+layer-eight> * Pebbles5 →  DuckDuckGo on Twitter: "We are experiencing a network outage at the moment and apologize for the inconvenience. We will report back soon when it is fixed."
19:28 < arlion> wow, ddg is down
19:28 < Pebbles5> The phones version is working though
19:28 < Pebbles5> s/phones/phone
19:28 <+layer-eight> [SED Pebbles5] The phone version is working though
19:29 < arlion> .yt ship it up to boston
19:29 < arlion> `yt ship it up to boston
19:29 < arlion> I am sorry, arlion, I am unable to do that. Let me clarify, yt ship it up to boston is an invalid command
19:29 < arlion> I am sorry to, arlion
19:30 < Pebbles5> Ok DuckDuckGo working fine again
19:30 < narziss> duckduckspy is online
19:30 < narziss> noone noticed.
19:32 < asimon> arlion: I need help
19:32 < asimon> Can you help me figure this out http://adventofcode.com/2017/day/25
19:32 <+layer-eight> * asimon →  Day 25 - Advent of Code 2017
19:32 < arlion> looking
19:33 < arlion> what language are you using to solve it?
19:34 < arlion> It stopped milliseconds ago; not sure why. I'm a garbage collector, not a doctor."
19:34 < arlion> he, star trek voyager call back
19:35 < asimon> Jk I'm only on Day 8
19:35 < asimon> But it's a neat diversion every time I need a break
19:35 < asimon> Python is my language of choice
19:36 < onenerdyguy> so how we all doing today
19:36 < asimon> They have a bunch of these infinite tape problems that are kind of annoying to handle in python - I haven't really worked out a good solution way to deal with them yet
19:36 < corn266> asimon, do them in prolog
19:37 < arlion> I mean, looking at this problem I would use while loops and a couple of if statements
19:37 < arlion> prob less than 50 lines.
19:37 < aName> asimon: I used to enjoy bitching about turing machines. Like 'I WAS PROMISED INFINITE MEMORY GODDAMMIT'
19:38 < asimon> Looking at day 25 you're right it doesn't actually seem that hard
19:38 < arlion> okay cool, I thought you might have had an actual problem.
19:38 < AnimalFarmPig> Ready for vacation... only like six weeks to go
19:38 < arlion> I'm going to go back to working on this CTF then if you don't need help
19:39 < genr8_> Ready for vacation... only like six hours to go
19:39 < asimon> arlion: lol no I'm good
19:39 < asimon> but ty for the eagerness
19:40 < arlion> I would essentially devide the logic into 4 different functions for how to handle the rules, and then from there have 6 global values that handle the current position.
19:40 < arlion> I was thinking if it would be better to write it in javascript, but nah.
19:41 < felda> US Officials admit cryptic1 hacked their DNS and set all their logins to pfsense
19:41 < arlion> but what's the passw0rd!?
19:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> arlion... p@ssword
19:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> :D
19:41 < arlion> All I see are *******
19:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> oh
19:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> wait
19:41 <+AnonymooseReddtr> its hunter2
19:42 < arlion> You keep saying something, but my irc client is blocking it
19:42 <+AnonymooseReddtr> hmm
19:42 <+AnonymooseReddtr> 2x LTO6 HH drives for $9500 or a brand new LTO7 library for $15k
19:43 < arlion> I feel like I should know what that is....
19:44 <+AnonymooseReddtr> tape system
19:46 < Hatter> I'm back from lunch, just enjoyed some ethnic food
19:48 < alazare619> starting to think i've developed glutten and lactose intolerance
19:50 < bermraj> alazare619: how did that happened?
19:51 < alazare619> anytime i eat bread or cheese for hte last 2-3 weeks ive had very quick onset diahreha and extremely bad cramps in my stomach area
19:51 < alazare619> usually swelling/bloating too
19:52 < corn266> Sounds like you need to try each at a time one day apart for 3 days interleaved and report the results
19:55 < alazare619> corn266: yea thats what i'm working on now...
19:56 < abakedapplepie> i dont think gluten would give you the shits
19:56 < abakedapplepie> maybe your lunchmeat has botulism
19:56 < corn266> sounds like he botched the sandwich
19:58 < aName> I wish I could fire users for being annoying.
19:58 < aName> Especially lazy WFH people who like to blame IT for everything
19:59 < aName> AnonymooseReddtr: I wish I could afford a tape library, they're so neat
19:59 < alazare619> is mriadb 100% interchangeable with mysql?
19:59 < aName> 99%
19:59 < alazare619> whats the diffrences between it and mysql in regards to windows
20:00 < vinrock> the name
20:00 < aName> Honestly couldn't say. I've never run into a case where it wasn't drop-in, but I've also never run it on windows.
20:00 < alazare619> vinrock: is there a workbench like what mssql has?
20:01 < vinrock> not sure.... i actually didnt even know about mysql workbench heh
20:01 < vinrock> i just do all my shit via cli
20:01 < alazare619> i dont dable enough with sql to manage it via cli like i can do most everything else via cli
20:02 < alazare619> but my only exposer to any forms of sql is just creating a db or two here and there and doing a backup
20:04 < alazare619> i'm debating just using sql express for this
20:04 < alazare619> its just a confluence server
20:04 < alazare619> for like 10 people think sql express would be sufficient?
20:05 < admiralspark> Sup sysads
20:05 <+AnonymooseReddtr> watching football
20:05 <+AnonymooseReddtr> you
20:05 <+AnonymooseReddtr> woooo!
20:05 < admiralspark> alazare619: Maybe consider an alternative DB?
20:05 < admiralspark> AnonymooseReddtr: noice
20:05 < admiralspark> I heard France is happy?
20:05 <+AnonymooseReddtr> 1 nil for England
20:05 < hxcsp> goal
20:05 < alazare619> the app supports postgres, mysql, h12, and ms sql
20:06 < admiralspark> alazare619: postgres and mysql both run fine on windows server, if that's the issue. I really would suggest avoiding sqlexpress
20:06 < alazare619> https://confluence.atlassian.com/doc/supported-platforms-207488198.html
20:06 <+layer-eight> * alazare619 →  Supported Platforms - Atlassian Documentation
20:06 < admiralspark> it has some limitations that will annoy the
20:06 < admiralspark> oh god
20:06 < admiralspark> are you doing a full confluence install?
20:06 < alazare619> yes admiralspark
20:07 < alazare619> its only for 10 people tho
20:07 < admiralspark> alazare619: you need full MSSQL if you're going that way. I 100% suggest using mysql/mariadb or Postgre for it
20:07 < alazare619> right now we potentially might roll it out site wide wich is a little over 1k users
20:07 < admiralspark> yeah, what you build now will become prod
20:07 < admiralspark> just use full MSSQL if you have to remain windows
20:08 < admiralspark> Confluence runs great on linux fyi
20:08 < alazare619> dont have hte cal's offhand atm for full mssql
20:08 < admiralspark> dont sqlexpress it, trust me. Even at 10 users it'll be slowwww and garbage
20:08 < admiralspark> well
20:08 < genr8_> ive used PostrgeSQL with NPGSQL addon for windows
20:08 < admiralspark> it's a dev enviro right?
20:08 < admiralspark> you don't need CAL's if it's dev
20:08 < alazare619> dev with the intention of rolling to prod
20:08 < admiralspark> so you only need it when you go prod :P
20:09 < admiralspark> are you not a datacenter shop?
20:10 < admiralspark> alazare619: it specifically says which mssql versions are supported and express isn't there
20:10 < alazare619> admiralspark: internal IT for a hospital
20:10 < AnimalFarmPig> alazare619: you can use mysql workbench (which is as nice as mssms) with MariaDB and most of the features will work
20:10 < alazare619> admiralspark: i know this but sql express is sql full
20:10 < admiralspark> no, it's not. It's sql express
20:10 < alazare619> in regards to all functionality its limits are ram and database size restricitons
20:11 < alazare619> it is so :P
20:11 < admiralspark> I promise you Atlassian will laugh you out of the tech support call when they find sqlexpress
20:11 < felda> Did you guys see that they are going to use Fentanyl to execute someone on death row today?
20:11 < aName> >streamline new hire process to get logins generated sooner > training moves up schedule and bitches when they're not ready second day
20:11 < alazare619> thats why you can directly export a sql express db to a sql full install
20:11 < admiralspark> Thats
20:11 < admiralspark> not the reason they require it
20:11 < admiralspark> just like they don't support mariadb
20:11 < AnimalFarmPig> I thought Atlassian really wanted you to use postgres?
20:12 < admiralspark> they do
20:12 < admiralspark> and he should be
20:12 < admiralspark> on a linux server
20:12 < AnimalFarmPig> I've run jira with mysql before. It ran just as poorly as jira normally runs
20:12 < admiralspark> but he seems to be windows only hence the discussion
20:12 < alazare619> i chose the windows installer because #windowsshop
20:12 < AnimalFarmPig> oh, makes sense
20:12 < alazare619> my home is using postgres and confluence in docker
20:12 < admiralspark> because #UnwillingToLearnNewThings
20:12 < alazare619> again false admiralspark
20:12 < admiralspark> :P
20:12 < admiralspark> then
20:13 < admiralspark> why would you ask? Run postgres and be done
20:13 < genr8_> windows is just so massive it has inertia
20:13 < alazare619> i'm at the mercy as people above me
20:13 < alazare619> #nolinuxhere
20:13 < admiralspark> alazare619: Postgre. On Windows. Works flawlessly :P
20:13 < alazare619> #clevelswhodontunderstandshit
20:13 < admiralspark> no, I know that enviro, just giving you a hard time
20:13 < alazare619> does it?
20:13 < genr8_> yeep. i second the postgres
20:13 < genr8_> cant you just run it on the cloud or something
20:14 < admiralspark> We run it for an outage management system that gets six polls per second of data across our entire system. 30k endpoints. one server, one DB
20:14 < admiralspark> genr8_: you could on Azure SQL :P
20:14 < admiralspark> $$$$$
20:14 < genr8_> shift that into the cloud and load balance it
20:14 <+AnonymooseReddtr> azure sql is cheap :D
20:14 < admiralspark> hmm, last I checked it was worse then cals for MSSQL 16
20:14 < admiralspark> oh
20:14 < admiralspark> wait
20:14 < aName> CALs can bite me
20:15 < alazare619> genr8_: no everything has to be inhouse
20:15 < DongServer> booyah
20:15 < admiralspark> didnt sql licensing go per-core or whatever
20:15 < aName> 'Yeah we sold you this software but you can't actually use it unless you give us more money"
20:15 < admiralspark> per vcpu
20:15 < genr8_> i thought that too
20:15 < admiralspark> maybe it's mroe expensive.
20:15  * admiralspark is glad we have ongoing Datacenter on old licensing
20:16 < DongServer> clustering that sql is 100k+
20:16 < admiralspark> HOOF
20:16 < admiralspark> damn
20:16 < admiralspark> DongServer: in azure?
20:16 < DongServer> We have  couple clusters
20:16 < DongServer> On-Prem
20:16 < admiralspark> oh
20:16 < admiralspark> hmm
20:17 < DongServer> Enterprise
20:17 < admiralspark> maybe you're referring to something different than what I'm thinking of
20:17 < admiralspark> We only paid like $7k/instance for clustered
20:17 < DongServer> not standard
20:17 < admiralspark> datacenter
20:17 < admiralspark> hmm
20:17 < admiralspark> OH
20:17 < admiralspark> you mean MSSQL Enterprise
20:17 < admiralspark> for like 16
20:18 < admiralspark> slash 17
20:18 < DongServer> maybe
20:18 < vavkamil> does anybody have access to https://access.redhat.com/solutions/401273 ?
20:18 < DongServer> depending on vcpu
20:18 <+layer-eight> * vavkamil →  Experiencing random freezes with canary errors in /var/log/messages - Red Hat Customer Portal
20:18 < admiralspark> ours is a 14 clustered
20:19 < adamb> vavkamil: yeah one mo
20:19 < admiralspark> vavkamil: https://developers.redhat.com/articles/frequently-asked-questions-no-cost-red-hat-enterprise-linux-developer-subscription/#getting_your_no_cost_subscription
20:19 <+layer-eight> * admiralspark →  Frequently asked questions: no-cost Red Hat Enterprise Linux Developer Subscription | Red Hat Developer
20:19 < scwizard> s3 sync is wierdly slow
20:20 < DongServer> 8 core vm of sql costs $57024 x 2
20:20 < scwizard> with large numbers of small files
20:20 < adamb> rofl
20:20 < adamb> it's not much use I'm afraid
20:20 < admiralspark> DongServer: holy crap, your var isn't cutting you any sort of deal
20:20 < adamb> vavkamil: Just recommends upgrading to the latest kernel
20:20 < DongServer> yeah
20:20 < admiralspark> :(
20:20 < vavkamil> adamb, ok thank you
20:21 < adamb> Root Cause
20:21 < adamb> rtkit-daemon creates a canary thread and a watchdog thread. The canary thread updates an event every 5 seconds, and the watchdog thread detects the event. When the event is not updated more than 10 seconds, then the watchdog thread considers that some real time threads consume CPU resource, and the watchdog thread tries to demote priorities of the threads which are managed by rtkit-daemon. So the
20:21 < adamb> message, The canary thread is apparently starving. Taking action. means that CPUs are consumed by any process, or CPUs cannot run the canary/watchdog threads with some problem. After the message, the watchdog thread tries to demote, and demoted threads are reported.
20:21 < adamb> Root cause behind all the issues is not rtkit daemon itself. Logged messages from rtkit are just indication of a problem somewhere else.
20:21 < adamb> That's some info on the cause
20:21 < scwizard> "Consider using AWS Import/Export Snowball for S3 uploads or downloads that exceed 1 TB"
20:21 < scwizard> bleh that's not my use case
20:21 < admiralspark> scwizard: tell me you're gonna use the big AWS semi
20:21 < asimon> scwizard: your limit is 5gb right?
20:21 < scwizard> i just want to upload the codebase
20:22 < scwizard> and it took longer than i feel like it should
20:23 < Church-> Anybody happen to be using Drone.io as their CI system by any chance?
20:23 < scwizard> (i'm not gonna use the big aws semi lol)
20:24 < admiralspark> scwizard: awwwwwwww
20:24 < admiralspark> I want to see it used at least once
20:24 < scwizard> that's pretty neat though
20:24 < scwizard> using UPS to transfer data
20:25 < scwizard> oh wait not UPS
20:25 < scwizard> amazon's shipping service
20:25 < scwizard> you get the idea tho
20:27 < arlion> god I love work wifi
20:28 < arlion> 15GB patch on my laptop, done in about 10 minutes.
20:28 < Pebbles5> use USPS instead /S
20:28 < arlion> DL down at 12-20MB/s compared to my 1.3 at the house.
20:29 < arlion> couple prob go faster if I wasn't using a local vpn to get around work firewalls
20:29 < arlion> oops, did I say that>?
20:30 < traaak> luls
20:30 < traaak> nope
20:30 < traaak> no one here but us chickens
20:31 < alazare619> oh nice on windows postgres 10 comes with pgadmin
20:31 < adamb> wait what
20:31 < adamb> postgres for windows?
20:31 < alazare619> setting up confluence on a windows boxen
20:31 < adamb> wow, since 9.2
20:32 < adamb> why do you hate yourself so much?
20:32 < Pebbles5> pgadmin is a postgres GUI though
20:32 < adamb> confluence on windows is basically self harm
20:33 < scwizard> oh for fuck's sake
20:33 < scwizard> aws s3 sync doesn't have a --checksum
20:33 < adamb> checksums aren't webscale
20:33 < scwizard> do i need to use tarsnap or something
20:33 < scwizard> idk
20:33 < scwizard> tarsnap is so autistic
20:34 < adamb> can you not upload a file with the signature side by side
20:34 < scwizard> adamb: the idea is to avoid transfering files that are already there
20:34 < scwizard> but it's the ci doing it so the timestamp on the source will drift
20:34 < scwizard> and --size-only is asking for trouble
20:35 < adamb> upload a file called latest-checksum.txt, check that?
20:36 < scwizard> adamb: such a PITA, like sure it's possible i guess
20:36 < adamb> if you're dealing with cliud API's, sometimes you just have to bodge it
20:36 < adamb> s/cliud/cloud
20:36 <+layer-eight> [SED adamb] if you're dealing with cloud API's, sometimes you just have to bodge it
20:37 < scwizard> ok....
20:37 < scwizard> this does it: https://s3tools.org/s3cmd-sync
20:37 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  Amazon S3 Tools: S3 Sync - How To Sync Files to Amazon S3
20:38 < scwizard> "Download From SourceForge " ayyyyyy lmao
20:38 < scwizard> ok it is maintained though
20:38 < scwizard> https://github.com/s3tools/s3cmd
20:38 <+layer-eight> * scwizard →  GitHub → s3tools → s3cmd → Official s3cmd repo -- Command line tool for managing Amazon S3 and CloudFront services → @ ~ a month ago → Python → ✡ 2,719 → Forks: 697 → ☹ 252
20:38 < scwizard> maybe can be installed via pip?
20:38 < adamb> i imagine that the tool downloads the file to check the sum - is that acceptable?
20:39 < corn266> why not just use md5sum command
20:39 < scwizard> adamb: it doesn't that would be silly
20:40 < scwizard> you can get the checksum via the api
20:42 < adamb> half right, it uses the etag
20:42 < adamb> if s3 makes the etag available, you don't need a tool
20:43 < scwizard> a tool is convinent and i'm gonna use it
20:43 < adamb> you can just curl -XHEAD, get the etag header
20:43 < scwizard> i'd be reinventing the wheel
20:44 < adamb> but you could do it in one line!
20:46 < scwizard> sync one file in one line?
20:47 < scwizard> or the whole folder in one line?
20:47 < AnimalFarmPig> pgadmin is so much worse the ssms or mysql workbench
20:48 < AnimalFarmPig> s3cmd lets you sync whole trees in one line
20:48 < vavkamil> what is an etag for?
20:50 < adamb>  for filename in /path/*; do ; if [ curl -IHEAD https3bucket.com | grep -i etag | awk '{ print $2}' -eq md5sum(filename)] ; then upload(filename) ; fi ; done
20:50 < adamb> whole directory
20:50 < adamb> haven't syntax checked it, but something like that
20:50 < AnimalFarmPig> etag is for cache invalidation
20:50 < vavkamil> I need to learn awk
20:51 < adamb> yeah etag is just a value that changes when a file changes, typically a checksum, but doesn't have to be
20:51 < adamb> so for e.g. images you can just do a HEAD instead of a full GET
20:52 < AnimalFarmPig> could use find and -exec to do a whole tree
20:52 < vavkamil> security scanners are flagging disclosed etag as a vulnerability
20:52 < adamb> embedding 'if' inside the exec clause is a PITA
20:53 < adamb> could be done that way though if you have an affinity for backslashes up the wazoo
20:54 < AnimalFarmPig> -exec bash -c "...."
20:58 < scwizard> adamb: that's really fucking stupid
20:58 < scwizard> your script will make like 10,000 seperate api calls lol
20:59 < adamb> I said could, not should :)
20:59 < scwizard> and is slow in general (forking curl 10,000 times) much better to use a dedicated python tool
21:00 < adamb> could run curl in batch mode, store the result in an array and still fit it on a single line too :)
21:00 < AnimalFarmPig> implying the the python tool doesn't make an api call for each file it encounters
21:00 < scwizard> this is silly
21:00 < scwizard> i'm not continuing this conversation
21:00 < scwizard> i know ya'll are just trolling me and aren't really this dumb
21:02 < adamb> You've got me
21:03 < AnimalFarmPig> https://github.com/s3tools/s3cmd/blob/master/s3cmd#L406   <--- one API call per file
21:03 <+layer-eight> * AnimalFarmPig →  GitHub → s3tools → s3cmd → Official s3cmd repo -- Command line tool for managing Amazon S3 and CloudFront services → @ ~ a month ago → Python → ✡ 2,719 → Forks: 697 → ☹ 252
21:03 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: that's for uploading the file dingus. Stop trolling me
21:03 < ebol4> what kind of sick man adjusts another person's chair
21:04 < ebol4> i can't figure out how to make it go back
21:04 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: it's for uploading a file or directory
21:04 < aName> omfg how many times am I going to have to explain to the supervisors at the call center that managing group memberships in the reporting software is THEIR responsibility
21:04 < aName> Yes, this person shows up in the wrong group because YOU assigned them to the wrong group
21:05 < scwizard> AnimalFarmPig: of course it makes an api call for every file it uploads, but it doesn't make an api call for every file it checks the checksum for
21:05 < aName> how is this my fucking problem?!
21:05 < aName> *ahem*
21:05 < syere> Where do you guys buy used server memory from?
21:05 < aName> syere: Used servers on ebay
21:05 < aName> syere: The server comes free with the RAM usually =p
21:05 < syere> thats the problem im running into
21:05 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: no, this code just uploads without doing any checksum checking... let's see if I can find the code for sync...
21:06 < aName> syere: I bought 32GB + dual xeons for 170 bucks that way. *shrugs*
21:06 < abakedapplepie> aName: lol
21:07 < syere> jesus
21:07 < syere> im finding 96gb for $300
21:07 < syere> that just seems ridiculous
21:07 < abakedapplepie> how many empty server chassis do you hve sitting around :P
21:07 < abakedapplepie> are you looking for ddr3 or 4
21:07 < aName> abakedapplepie: At the office? Far too many.
21:07 < syere> ddr3
21:07 < aName> abakedapplepie: But those are all like, 2950s
21:07 < abakedapplepie> i need to upgrade the procs in my dl380
21:08 < abakedapplepie> its the lowest end xeon option that was available
21:08 < aName> If you're willing to use 4GB modules it should be pretty inexpensive.
21:08 < aName> The 8GB modules aren't *too* bad
21:08 < abakedapplepie> i have 96gb of ram in there at least
21:08 < syere> work gave me a older server to take home, has no memory. 2420 1.9gz hexacore. Not the biggest guy on the block but still works just fine. I can double the cores for a whole $30, so im seeing what I can get for memory
21:08 < abakedapplepie> 2 16s 4 8s and some 4s
21:08 < aName> syere: I'd start with a 4x8GB kit, like 90 bucks on ebay
21:09 < aName> 32GB is plenty to start with anyway
21:09 < abakedapplepie> i think we are nearing our fall cleaning, i should harvest ram before recycling
21:09 < syere> If I drop down to only 64gb it's still perfectly usable as my main server isnt even out of resources yet
21:09 < adamb> liquidation auctions are a great way to get used hardware
21:09 < aName> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Micron-MT36JSZF1G72PZ-4x-8gb-32GB-PC3-10600R-DDR3-ECC-Memory-HP-500205-071-/372360105783 Double check compatibility but hey
21:09 <+layer-eight> * aName →  Micron MT36JSZF1G72PZ 4x 8gb = 32GB PC3-10600R DDR3 ECC Memory ___ HP 500205-071  | eBay
21:10 < aName> abakedapplepie: I took a big pile of disks lol
21:10 < syere> $160 for 64gb isnt bad
21:10 < abakedapplepie> aName send me some
21:10 < abakedapplepie> i need 2.5" sas drives :|
21:10 < aName> abakedapplepie: No! MINE!
21:10 < aName> abakedapplepie: Oh I don't have any of those
21:10 < abakedapplepie> lame
21:10 < aName> Just 3.5"
21:10 < aName> And they're 300GB
21:10 < aName> lol
21:10 < abakedapplepie> woof
21:10 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:10 < aName> But I got like, twelve of them, and a storage array to put them in
21:10 < syere> i have stacks of 2.5 sas, around 300gb, but in storage in a different state :-/
21:11 < abakedapplepie> my dl380 has 2 1tb sas drives
21:11 < abakedapplepie> sux
21:11 < aName> So it ends up being like, a really fast, really hungry 1.9TB I think?
21:11 < abakedapplepie> i dont have sleds either so even if i get some cheapass drives i gotta shell out for sleds
21:11 < aName> I'd have to doublecheck
21:11 < abakedapplepie> but drives on sleds are crazy spensive
21:11 < abakedapplepie> for what they are
21:11 < aName> abakedapplepie: The sleds aren't too expensive
21:11 < aName> abakedapplepie: I got mine for like six bucks each
21:11 < aName> Which is irritating when you need 12 of them
21:11 < aName> but hey
21:11 < abakedapplepie> hmmm thats good to know
21:12 < aName> abakedapplepie: For a dl380 though? I might have some in recycling.
21:12 < abakedapplepie> im a cheapass so id end up trying to fabricobble my own out of the blanking plates
21:12 < abakedapplepie> lol
21:12 < abakedapplepie> aName if you think about it, let me know
21:12 < adamb> duct tape
21:12 < aName> abakedapplepie: Yeah, I'll take a look the next time I'm in there.
21:13 < aName> abakedapplepie: We really need to get our recycler here to clear out the closet
21:13 < AnimalFarmPig> scwizard: okay, you're right, s3cmd gets md5's in a batch per bucket
21:14 < abakedapplepie> aName i just saw above, whats the power draw on your 12-drive 2tb array lmao
21:15 < aName> abakedapplepie: Truthfully, I don't know. I loaned my kill-a-watt to a buddy a couple years back
21:15 < aName> never saw it or him again
21:15 < aName> I have it turned off right now because summer
21:17 < onenerdyguy> anyone familiar with HP VSA?
21:18 < adamb> a bit of mental maths tells me if you bought a 2tb usb drive, you'd be in profit within 3 months
21:19 < aName> Are we talking about that stupid 'proof of storage' cryptocurrency?
21:19 < aName> adamb: Or do you mean power use / vs cost of disk?
21:19 < adamb> power use vs cost of a usb disk
21:19 < aName> adamb: Because my 12 disk array is a LOT faster and highly redundant, your 2TB USB disk is not
21:19 < adamb> using $1 per watt per year as a rough estimate
21:20 < genr8_> micromanaging your power to the singular device and singular dollar model is pretty shortsighted
21:20 < aName> I do need to get my aquarium tied into my HVAC somehow though
21:20 < aName> That's where most of my inefficiency is
21:20 < aName> The heaters on the tank fighting the air conditioners mostly
21:21 < abakedapplepie> just wrap it in insulation
21:21 < adamb> genr8_: home lab, not enterprise
21:21 < abakedapplepie> :v
21:21 < genr8_> im sure everyone goes through that phase where they realize how much phantom power is drawn from random devices around their house and go on a rampage trying to shut everything down and keep it off... doesnt last long until you realize its not feasible
21:21 < abakedapplepie> genr8_: ive never had that phase
21:21 < syere> Power consumption is how I ended up using servers instead of desktops
21:21 < abakedapplepie> i remember growing up if the monitor was on standby she'd lose her shit tho
21:22 < abakedapplepie> THAT LITTLE AMBER LIGHT IS COSTING $10s OF DOLLARS!
21:22 < adamb> I'm being generous too, I suspect the power useage of a 12 bay nas is closer to 500w
21:22 < syere> i think my 16 bay san uses around 3-4 amps in my lab
21:22 < adamb> i just used the consumption of 12x 7200rpm drive
21:27 < AnimalFarmPig> aName: you should just set your house climate control to the temperature that your fish like. Problem solved. You could even get rid of the tank heater.
21:27 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: Yeah no
21:28 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: That sounds fucking miserable
21:28 < AnimalFarmPig> you would get used to 30 C year round...
21:28 < aName> lol if I took the tank to 30c everything dies
21:28 < aName> But 25-26 is still not very comfortable
21:28 < AnimalFarmPig> I've just had Bettas, they like around 25 C, which is comfortable for me
21:29 < Maarten> I live in SoCal, it never really gets cold here. A few weeks in January where it drops below 10C.... MAYBE, and only at night. :D
21:29 < AnimalFarmPig> I assumed that if you were being miserable, it must be tropical fish
21:29 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: I keep corals, so temperature stability is a big deal to me
21:29 < aName> AnimalFarmPig: Yeah, 78 is tropical
21:30 < Maarten> Last Friday my weather station reported 114.4 as the high, which is roughly 46 C
21:30 < aName> Er, 25c
21:30 < aName> whatevs
21:30 < AnimalFarmPig> I'm cool with F or C
21:30 < adamb> Best temperature for fish is 150 degrees C, with a little seasoning and a little oil
21:30 < Maarten> ^
21:30 < ebol4> Maarten: apparently some of the roads start partially liquefying in england at like 35C and above lol
21:31 < AnimalFarmPig> reef diving in Belize, I remember the water temperature being something really nice like ~86 F / 30 C. I assumed that's what you need for coral and tropicals.
21:32 < adamb> ebol4: that was fake news, the real cause was sinkholes
21:32 < ebol4> darn
21:34 < ebol4> what about the ratmen that live in the tubes
21:34 <@JollyRgrs> AnimalFarmPig: you are cool with F or C?
21:35 < AnimalFarmPig> JollyRgrs: yeah. I'm American but lived a long time with Europeans.
21:35 <@JollyRgrs> so 40F and 40C
21:35 <@JollyRgrs> cool at both?
21:35 < AnimalFarmPig> lol, 40F is a little too cold for me :P
21:35 < blinkingprompt> wait wait, so you're telling me that the former chancellor of Germany owns a natural gas company that signed a multi billion dollar deal with Russia who now controls German's energy reserves
21:35 < blinkingprompt> ?
21:36 < xamithan> 40c would be on fire though.  I'd rather it be F
21:36 < blinkingprompt> sorry wrong channel :)
21:36 < AnimalFarmPig> 40C is sit on the back porch with a beer weather
21:36 < ebol4> the ratmen though
21:36 < grumplestiltzkin> why yall using commie units?
21:36 < blinkingprompt> they are lizard men btw
21:37 < xamithan> That must not be at 100% humidity
21:37 < AnimalFarmPig> it's like when you use small and simple words when talking to children
21:37 < AnimalFarmPig> you have to use commie units when talking to Europeans
21:38 < corn266> Commie units? I thought they were cartel units
21:38 < adamb> Freedom units
21:38 < blinkingprompt> cartels are commies
21:39 < aName> Unrelated, I'm starting to get a bit pissy with this company we merged with.
21:39 < blinkingprompt> rm -rf / everything then
21:39 < aName> From what I can tell they used to just buy new PCs at bestbuy or whatever and install pirated / grey market software
21:39 < aName> And they get pissy about the lead time now
21:39 < adamb> Report yourself to the BSA
21:39 < AnimalFarmPig> ^
21:39 < adamb> Get a nice pay off
21:39 < grumplestiltzkin> aName: no biggie, just get it in writing, that's the policy, then call BSA
21:40 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: That is NOT the policy - so say I
21:41 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: But it's irritating that they act like I'm holding them up by doing it right
21:42 < grumplestiltzkin> aName: if its just getting workstations out, you might present an option to keep X amount in stock, ready to go - if they want to pay for it.
21:42 < grumplestiltzkin> I forget what kind of scale you are working at
21:51 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: We have a few machines in stock but we still have to configure, repack, and reship them
21:52 < aName> You can only have them so 'ready to go' and still be up-to-date
21:52 < aName> l can turn one around same day as the request usually but they like to ask for an extra one at like 530PM
21:55 < grumplestiltzkin> humble has all these final fantasy games on sale - is there a legit portable game pc type device like a DS?  I've seen a few, around $600
21:55 < syere> we solved that by tickets. new provisions take 7 days from the submission of the ticket
21:56 < grumplestiltzkin> meh.. who am I kidding - Ive been trying to play bravely default for like a year, but only 10 hours into it *barely* off the first continent
21:57 < asimon> grumplestiltzkin: I've seen some rpi systems that look great
21:57 < asimon> though they seem to be hobby projects instead of actual commercial systems
21:57 < grumplestiltzkin> portable pi?
21:58 < adamb> I've not seen anything x86 based that's any good in handheld formfactor
21:58 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: Define 'PC'
21:58 < grumplestiltzkin> hm.. looks like all these final fantasy things are steam/winders
21:59 < adamb> i think they're all on iOS / android for cheap anyway
21:59 < adamb> ok not cheap
22:00 < aName> Right, you can get an android one for under 200 bucks
22:00 < grumplestiltzkin> oh, like this guy  https://www.amazon.com/GPD-Portable-Handheld-Touchscreen-Quad-Core/dp/B01B4ESXT0   hm
22:01 < blinkingprompt> is it true that to conquer fear you have to bask in the fear of other men?
22:01 < Anaphylaxis> you want to bask with other men?
22:01 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: That's the one I was thinking of
22:01 < blinkingprompt> please leave your fantasies out of thsi
22:01 < ebol4> are you afraid to Anaphylaxis
22:02 < blinkingprompt> he is afraid
22:02 < adamb> dunno about the new version, but the build quality of the original GPD was bad
22:02 < grumplestiltzkin> then theres this one that appears to run winders  https://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-GPD-WIN-X7-Z8750-Bluetooth/dp/B01MCV637B
22:04 < grumplestiltzkin> hm yeah, something like one of those to play the retro things
22:04 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: That looks... ew
22:04 < aName> No thank you
22:05 < grumplestiltzkin> no bueno for you?
22:05 < aName> At that point just get a cheap windows tablet and a clip-on controller
22:05 < blinkingprompt> to conquer fear you have to bask in the fear of other men
22:05 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: The controls are really awkwardly placed, and that thing is way too expensive for the spec
22:06 < aName> blinkingprompt: But can you teach a whale to jump out of its tale?
22:06 < grumplestiltzkin> hm.   $350ish for a portable that can play skyrim and lower - yeah, the battery and control placement owuld make or break that
22:06 < aName> *tail
22:06 < onenerdyguy> grumplestiltzkin, A switch? ;)
22:07 < aName> Honestly, yeah
22:07 < aName> Get a switch and mod it
22:07 < grumplestiltzkin> can a switch run emulators/homebrew like a DS?
22:07 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: If you act quickly, sure
22:07 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: They're releasing patched ones soon
22:07 < grumplestiltzkin> actually.   maybe the answer is just that, run an emulator on the 3ds I already have
22:08 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: Do you have a flash cart?
22:08 < grumplestiltzkin> patched to remove fun?
22:08 < grumplestiltzkin> like a powerpak? I don't
22:08 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: lol basically
22:08 < aName> http://www.sky3dsplus.net/ is what I was thinking of
22:08 <+layer-eight> * aName →  SKY3DS,The Amazing 3DS Flashcard For Any 3DS Consoles
22:08 < aName> But yeah something like that
22:10 < aName> I had a flashcart for my GB micro
22:10 < tapoxi> how does an old millenial like me connect with todays young and hip gen-z memesters
22:10 < aName> I really, really regret selling that thing
22:10 <+giant_it_burrit> tapoxi: eat tide pods
22:10 < aName> GB Micros go for crazy money now
22:10 < aName> tapoxi: Pfft, that's so last month
22:10 < aName> tapoxi: Now it's all about the cotton candy in the attic
22:10 < tapoxi> giant_it_burrit: i tried that while listening to trap music and playing fortnite but i couldnt feel truely gen-z
22:11 < aName> I don't normally hate on entire genres of music
22:11 < aName> but trap music sounds like a damn lawn sprinkler with some dude mumbling
22:11 < tapoxi> aName: THESE KIDS TODAY AND THEIR MUSIC
22:11 < aName> tcktcktckttrrrrtrrtrrrrtrrrr YEAH. UNH.
22:11 < aName> tapoxi: I know how I sound
22:11 < khelpw> aName: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/sCSasSoO/image.png
22:11 <+layer-eight> * khelpw →  IMAGE/PNG Document, 1,138,934 bytes
22:12 < khelpw> Never leave home without it
22:12 < aName> tapoxi: But it's seriously just... uninspired.
22:12 < khelpw> 32GB flash card
22:12 < aName> khelpw: SO GOOD.
22:12 < khelpw> Got it for $60 about a year ago
22:12 < aName> That's about what I sold mine for like six years ago
22:12 < zehdeh> Hi, at my company we have a computing cluster. Up until now our programmers used only the batch system to submit computing jobs. Is there a performance enhancement to be expected if we start using MPI?
22:12 < blinkingprompt> aName i can do anything you want to a whale
22:13 < khelpw> They regularly sell for $100+ these days
22:13 < zehdeh> The argument against using MPI used to be that we do computations that do not rely on synchronization between the threads, so they might as well run as completely separate programs.
22:13 < aName> khelpw: If not more
22:13 < aName> khelpw: And I mean, they're nice, but they're not THAT nice
22:13 < adamb> zehdeh: maybe... maybe not. this kind of thing is extremely workload dependant
22:14 < tapoxi> is this some z/os type shit
22:14 < khelpw> The shittiest part about it is knowing that if I lost/broke this one I'd go out and buy another at that price tomorrow.
22:14 < zehdeh> I know, it's not strictly sysadmin-related, but I maintain the batch system and noticed that our programmers make heavy use of it.
22:14 < adamb> if it's causing a bottleneck, it'll make all the difference, if there's no bottleneck, it'll no to minimal difference
22:14 < aName> zehdeh: Eh, it's a perfectly cromulent question, just a bit specific. You might be waiting for an answer.
22:14 < adamb> can you build a test system?
22:16 < tapoxi> what kind of systems use MPI
22:16 < asimon> `define cromulent
22:16 < tapoxi> my interest is piqued this isnt my wheelhouse
22:16 < adamb> MPI is popular in grid/hpc
22:16 < zehdeh> That's what I thought, they should run tests and evaluate it at least.
22:17 < tapoxi> adamb: so typically z/os or how do batch jobs like that work
22:18 < tapoxi> when I think cluster I think mesos since I have no hpc experience
22:18 < zehdeh> With MPI you can within the program decide to fork to separate CPUs
22:19 < zehdeh> Currently, with our batch system we just start the same program with different arguments on lots of nodes and collect the results afterwards
22:20 < adamb> ^
22:20 < adamb> it's forking vs threads for distributed systems
22:21 <@JollyRgrs> ITS FORKIN THREADS MAN! ALWAYS THOSE FORKIN THREADS!
22:21 < Hatter> JollyRgrs: that was yesterday
22:21 < adamb> batch mode supports everything, MPI needs a little more thought, but like everything in HPC, which is best is workload dependant
22:21 <@JollyRgrs> Hatter: no, i was yelling that today
22:21 <@JollyRgrs> :P
22:22 < silentfury-s4pro> ENGLISH TEARS
22:22  * silentfury-s4pro savors
22:22 < shanth> vertical integration tapoxi
22:23 < adamb> they're coming home...
22:23 < adamb> my favourite image of the week
22:23 < adamb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhvIMyUW0AACu_v.jpg
22:23 <+layer-eight> * adamb →  IMAGE/JPEG Document, 97,952 bytes
22:23 < tapoxi> britney spears dead in bus crash
22:24 < adamb> wat
22:24 < insecurity> o ya
22:24 < insecurity> like she would ride the bus
22:25 < tapoxi> rip
22:25 < insecurity> only the pope does that
22:28 <@JollyRgrs> s/bus/short bus/
22:28 <+layer-eight> [SED JollyRgrs/insecurity] like she would ride the short bus
22:29 < asimon> who said she was riding the bus
22:30 < grumplestiltzkin> s/short/bacon-flavored-window
22:30 < aName> I think I need to add a clause to the helpdesk page that says if you don't tell us the problem we just laugh and ignore you
22:30 < aName> Just got a ticket "folders: 'Tamekia' and the one that has the word COI in it-can't remember exactly how we labeled it."
22:30 < aName> THAT IS THE ENTIRE TEXT OF THE TICKET
22:31 < grumplestiltzkin> wat
22:31 < aName> Like, I'm literally actually autistic and I have a better theory of mind than most of our users.
22:31 < aName> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING
22:31 < adamb> aName: Ticket Title: "Update Failed" Ticket Text:
22:31 < aName> *ahem*
22:31 < aName> adamb: That at least tells me there's something to do with updates
22:31 < aName> adamb: I have literally no clue what the ask is here
22:32 < aName> Actually, no... I'm forgetting who this user is
22:32 < pcspkr> the best ticket I saw today was about a problem rdp'ing to a server and attached was a helpful screenshot of the .rdp icon but no information about *where* they were connecting to
22:32 <@JollyRgrs> update failed... to install within the first 3 seconds of it starting, but it eventually installed with no issues
22:32 < aName> She likes to delete folders from her email around 4:30
22:32 < aName> And then use that as an excuse to take off early
22:33 < aName> It's a pattern
22:33 < pcspkr> wtf am I gonna do with a screenshot of an rdp icon on someone's desktop
22:33 <@JollyRgrs> pcspkr: did they attach the picture as an embedded pic in a docx file?
22:33 < pcspkr> JollyRgrs: no
22:33 <@JollyRgrs> too bad
22:33 < xamithan> You supposed to fix it with that screenshot
22:33 < aName> Around lunchtime they complain things are laggy
22:33 <@JollyRgrs> i'd get emails... FROM DESKTOP SUPPORT people... with screenshots inside of a word file
22:33 < aName> And towards the end of the day they delete email 'accidentally''
22:33 < adamb> printed screenshot scanned in embedded in a doc
22:33 <@JollyRgrs> i'm like "can't you just make this image in-line of the email body? pls?"
22:34 < aName> Nevermind that she's apparently hundreds of times more likely to delete a folder than my other users
22:34 < pcspkr> JollyRgrs: and so small you can't see shit
22:34 < pcspkr> literally useless
22:34 <@JollyRgrs> pcspkr: or it is the full screenshot of a 4 monitor setup
22:34 < abakedapplepie> JollyRgrs: could be worse
22:34 < aName> Plus! Plus this user keeps fucking up entries into our one system and I end up having to go into the database to fix it
22:34 < aName> GIVE ME FIRING POWER
22:35 < abakedapplepie> they could take a pictureof the screen with their cell phone, forward it to their personal email, print it from webmail, scan it in black and white, paste it in a word doc, and attach the word doc to email
22:35 < grumplestiltzkin> aName: remove the permission for that user to delete *anything*
22:35 <@JollyRgrs> in your "one" system?
22:35 < abakedapplepie> (that has happened to me)
22:35 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: I should
22:35 < grumplestiltzkin> aName: like literally only recycle bin, and no power to empty it
22:35 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: need to make sure it has that LCD/CRT effect on the image... pixels clearly visible
22:36 <@JollyRgrs> abakedapplepie: also... you win
22:36 < abakedapplepie> "pixels enhanced to show flavor"
22:36  * JollyRgrs prints out picture and licks for flavor
22:36 < abakedapplepie> but on the other hand
22:36 < abakedapplepie> at least it wasnt a support rep that did tha to me
22:36 < abakedapplepie> it was a 70 year old geriatric woman who really had no business in an office in 2016
22:37 < genr8_> aw
22:37 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: Right
22:37 < genr8_> thats somebody's mom
22:37 < aName> grumplestiltzkin: It'd be less work for me to go in and empty it when she reaches quota
22:38 < grumplestiltzkin> aName: thats what Im saying mang.  you should be able to *easily* justify it by how much time it takes to work her tickets for BS
22:38 < silentfury-s4pro> ENGLAND TEARS
22:38 < abakedapplepie> are you talking email quota?
22:38 < tapoxi> I spun up gitlab for gitlab CI, imported my github project, minutes later I get a "Please don't leave us!" email from github
22:38 < abakedapplepie> or some sort of user shared folder quota
22:38 < tapoxi> lol
22:38 < abakedapplepie> tapoxi: lol
22:38 < abakedapplepie> did they offer free pro or something
22:39 < aName> abakedapplepie: email quota
22:39 < abakedapplepie> no retention policies?
22:39 < aName> abakedapplepie: Oh, I have backups
22:39 < abakedapplepie> i mean email retention
22:39 < tapoxi> abakedapplepie: https://imgur.com/a/Ebr5RDv
22:39 <+layer-eight> * tapoxi →  IMGUR Album → a few seconds ago → 1 Image → ⚘ 0
22:39 < abakedapplepie> set it up for 2 years, itll delete everything older
22:39 < aName> abakedapplepie: Naw, not on those accounts
22:39 < abakedapplepie> assuming you have exchange
22:40 < aName> abakedapplepie: We can't get the money for storage for company-wide retention
22:40 < abakedapplepie> its just to keep the mailboxes clean
22:40 < abakedapplepie> like i use it on a service notice account because it gets thousands of notices
22:40 < abakedapplepie> i dont have to worry about it filling up
22:40 < aName> We have retention for like, accounting
22:40 < aName> But some random call center agent?
22:40 < aName> No
22:40 < abakedapplepie> im not talking like journaling
22:41 < abakedapplepie> thats not what the retention policies are
22:41 < abakedapplepie> its literally "check all objects in mailbox, if older than $age, delete or archive"
22:41 < abakedapplepie> in your case, youd want delete
22:41 < aName> Ah.
22:41 < abakedapplepie> more of an anti retention policy i guess
22:41 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:41 < abakedapplepie> semantics
22:42 < aName> tbh not many of our employees make it to the two year mark
22:43 < aName> I mean, it's a call center.
22:43 < abakedapplepie> well you can do any age
22:43 < abakedapplepie> 2 weeks
22:43 < abakedapplepie> lol
22:43 < seventhshift> aName but some of your employees might do shady shit on your system that isn't realized until after the 2 year mark
22:44 < abakedapplepie> you can retain them for a half hour if you want to really annoy her
22:44 < abakedapplepie> xD
22:44 < seventhshift> I'm getting excited about this tablet
22:44 < seventhshift> https://www.ruggedpcreview.com/3_slates_tabletpc_mobiledemand_xtablet_t8650_full.html
22:44 <+layer-eight> * seventhshift →  Rugged PC Review.com - MobileDemand xTablet T8650
22:45 < arlion> what the technical name for when a url has all the params and stuff in it, and you can take the uri and run it through a parser to clean it all up and make it readibly
22:46 < arlion> dam shame, I used to have one bookmarked.
22:46 < technick> your talking about GET/POST parameters?
22:47 < arlion> not get/post itself, but the constructed uri returned.
22:47 < adamb> parsing?
22:48 < aName> roflmao - my coworker's laptop died so I gave him my old macbook air to use until the new motherboard comes in
22:48 < arlion> uri encoding or url decoderer
22:48 < aName> And he's just raging about everything
22:49 < aName> THIS OPERATING SYSTEM NEEDS TO JUST FUCKING DIE
22:49 < technick> 0.o Your co-worker is very misguided.
22:49 < aName> Yeah, it's kind of funny
22:49 < aName> Like, dude it's *a* computer - very similar to the one you were using
22:49 < silentfury-s4pro> if someone gave me a mac i'd rage too..
22:50 < aName> Yes, some things are slightly different
22:50 < aName> Relax
22:50 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: It beats not having a computer at all
22:50 < aName> silentfury-s4pro: But he's a hardcore windows fanboi
22:50 < silentfury-s4pro> debatable!
22:50 < technick> OSX or now MacOS has a level of simplicity that Windows will never have, especially in light of the way Windows 10 went.
22:50 < adamb> OS doesnt really matter when you use it as a glorified VT100
22:51 < xamithan> chromeOS is pretty simple
22:51 < silentfury-s4pro> anyone who's ever tried to troubleshoot higher-level issues on OS X knows how frustrating it is.
22:51 <@JollyRgrs> funny, you prob have chrome on your mac
22:51 <@JollyRgrs> so... everything should look the same to him
22:51 < adamb> Computing peaked in the late 80's
22:51 < aName> adamb: Right - he's going to remote into any of the machines we admin anyway
22:51 < adamb> And I wasn't even born then
22:53 < technick> I've had one issue with the 3 different mbp's I've owned since 2013. The controller for the touchpad went TU, took it into the apple bar and they fixed it quickly.
22:53 < aName> technick: yeah they're nice hardware
22:53 <+AnonymooseReddtr> TU eh
22:53 <+AnonymooseReddtr> oh tomorrow is happy money transfer day
22:53 <+AnonymooseReddtr> expense approve
22:53 <+AnonymooseReddtr> d
22:53 < aName> A surfacebook came up though, so I traded in my six year old macbook
22:54 < aName> Jesus christ, Spectrum. They've called me NINE TIMES today.
22:54 < aName> Like, yes, I know the bill is late - you fucked up the automatic billing again and I don't get paid until friday
22:54 < aName> Not that they deliver even a fifth of the bandwidth I pay for
22:54 < technick> 0.o
22:55 < adamb> is the surfacebook the furry one?
22:55 < aName> adamb: no, those suck so hard
22:55 < aName> https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Surface-NVIDIA-GeForce-graphics/dp/B0163GNS5S
22:55 < aName> This is the one I have
22:56 < aName> You're thinking of uh... the Surface Pro
22:56 < aName> We couldn't give those away.
22:56 < aName> Had people begging for new laptops 'Well, try this one'
22:56 < aName> 'Yeah can I get my old one back?'
22:56 < technick> I've been looking for a new 2-in-1 for doing SDR work with. I previously had a Lenovo Yoga 910 and the damn thing broke 2 days after the warranty expired. I need something that runs Linux...
22:57 <+AnonymooseReddtr> bah
22:57 < adamb> I have an XPS13 2018, not a 2 in 1 though
22:57 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i feel dirty
22:57 < adamb> Runs linux great
22:57 <+AnonymooseReddtr> I had to mount my new switches...at the bottom of a rack
22:57 <+AnonymooseReddtr> no room anywhere else for it
22:57 <+AnonymooseReddtr> can't wait to get rid of all this MD shit
22:57 <+AnonymooseReddtr> anyone want some /r/homelab gear?
22:58 < technick> Yea the idea is I can hold it like a tablet while walking around tracking down RF or participating in other RF activities.
22:58 < xamithan> energy efficient gear ?
22:58 < aName> technick: Dunno about linux support but I do like this machine
22:58 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol xamithan yeah very much so :)
22:58 < xamithan> Liar
22:58 <+AnonymooseReddtr> Dell MD3000i and MD1000 expansion cabinets
22:58 < technick> Where are you located?
22:58 <+AnonymooseReddtr> super energy efficient
22:58 <+AnonymooseReddtr> technick ontario canada
22:58 < aName> technick: You can flip the screen around on this too
22:59 < xamithan> Sent a pallot of those to the scrap yard a bit ago
22:59 < aName> It actually comes off the base and you just put it back on the other way around
22:59 <+AnonymooseReddtr> xamithan yeah - we're likely going to do the same
22:59 < aName> Plus the pressure sensitive pen is pretty nice to have
22:59 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i have 4x MD3000i and 4x MD1000
22:59 < technick> I have homelab gear to get rid of in Denver. Multple Oracle NAS's, 1U & 2U Xeon servers, 48 port gigabit managed switches....
22:59 < aName> technick: Shit, might be worth it for me to fly out there.
22:59 <+AnonymooseReddtr> technick what are the 1U and 2U servers you are getting rid of?
23:00 < technick> You'll have a hard time getting this on the plane to return
23:00 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol
23:00 < aName> technick: Eh, checked baggage
23:00 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i have an office in Denver :)
23:00 < aName> technick: Plus I can get super stoned while I'm there.
23:00 < xamithan> Just throw it in carryon
23:00 <+AnonymooseReddtr> simple - just load it on a pallet and get it sent here
23:00 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol
23:00 < technick> SuperMicro's and Oracle / Sun systems, all x86 Xeon systems.
23:00 <+AnonymooseReddtr> oh
23:00 < aName> Oh, nifty
23:00 <+AnonymooseReddtr> what are the specs on the super micros?
23:01 <@JollyRgrs> guys... i need an intervention
23:01 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol JollyRgrs why tho?
23:01 <@JollyRgrs> i decided i'm going to start taking notes
23:01 < aName> JollyRgrs: STOP SMOKING DRUGS. GIVE THEM TO ME.
23:01 <@JollyRgrs> aName: i must be on drugs to think about doing this
23:01 <+AnonymooseReddtr> notes are good :)
23:01 <+AnonymooseReddtr> I use one note all the frickin time
23:01 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i decom'd my skype for business servers today
23:01 <+AnonymooseReddtr> feels good man
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> AnonymooseReddtr: going skype online, or trying to just force teams?
23:02 <+AnonymooseReddtr> JollyRgrs gone Skype online
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> so... in my new role, people actually USE MS Teams... and i'll have a lot of crap to deal with... lots of diff projects and involving ppl who i can't even pronounce their names
23:02 < hxcsp> Just use discord
23:02 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yea teams is a great tool for that sort of thing
23:02 < technick> Slack ftw
23:02 < hxcsp> i wonder if anyone uses discord for business
23:02 <@JollyRgrs> so i figured OneNote might be better than "new 8" tab in notepad++
23:02 < _KaszpiR_> hxcsp lol not in corpo
23:02 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol JollyRgrs
23:02 <+AnonymooseReddtr> yes
23:03 <+AnonymooseReddtr> JollyRgrs what is your 'new role'?
23:03 < adamb> Junior Assistant to the Regional Manager
23:03 <+AnonymooseReddtr> lol adamb
23:04 < hxcsp> s/to the//
23:05 < hxcsp> bears. beets. battlestar galactica.
23:08 < felda> uh oh
23:08 < felda> users are starting to notice a new feature I'm working on that is still only half completed
23:08 < felda> TESTING ENVIRONMENTS ARE FOR SISSIES
23:08 <+AnonymooseReddtr> ...
23:08 <+AnonymooseReddtr> Everyone has a test environment
23:08 < _KaszpiR_> ...in production
23:09 <+AnonymooseReddtr> some of us are lucky enough to have a seperate environment for production :)
23:09 < technick> If you don't test in prod, you're doing it wrong.
23:09 < technick> I can say that now that I'm no longer a ops guy...
23:09 < _KaszpiR_> usually there is no better place for tests than production
23:09 < technick> "it's ops problem now"
23:09 <+AnonymooseReddtr> LOL
23:09 <+AnonymooseReddtr> technick yea thats my problem
23:09 <+AnonymooseReddtr> my team tries very hard to be Agile and "DevOps" but
23:10 <+AnonymooseReddtr> I keep telling the Dev side that with their shit they give me its more like DevOooops
23:10 < abakedapplepie> shit, look at reddit
23:10 < abakedapplepie> new reddit is an alpha test
23:10 < abakedapplepie> and its default
23:10 < abakedapplepie> lol
23:10 <+AnonymooseReddtr> meh
23:10 <+AnonymooseReddtr> i'm outta here
23:10 <+AnonymooseReddtr> later
23:11 < scwizard> the whole "devops thing" is so confusing
23:11 < scwizard> because apparently I'm a "dedicated devops" now but
23:11 < scwizard> i don't do any dev
23:12 < technick> I'm trying to push some agile methodologies on to my current team (security). They move slower than molasses when it comes to vulnerability scanning, remediation, assessments... just everything is retarded slow. They hide behind the fact we are a big company..
23:13 < scwizard> technick: sounds like you should/are going to be a manager
23:13 < technick> I'm a previous devops (architect level) and a firm believer in move fast, fail fast, learn fast.
23:13 < scwizard> basically if you have the ability to make staffing decisions on your team
23:13 < scwizard> you'll find they're much more willing to adapt to your way of doing things
23:14 < scwizard> for some reason...............
23:15 < technick> Also never recreate the wheel or over engineer...
23:15 < scwizard> technick: also with security, sadly there could be an ulterior motive for things moving slowly esp with regards to vuln scanning and pen testing and scary stuff like that. It could be some people on your team are using the three monkeys methodology
23:15 < technick> I'm waiting for the whole DevSecOps to take off personally...
23:15 < scwizard> in fact it could be three monkeys on your team who are using said methodology lol
23:18 < technick> When you say your a dedicate devops, do you mean your time has been dedicated to a specific project or team?
23:19 < scwizard> technick: i work for a 12 man company, and currently i'm dedicated to a specific project yes
23:19 < scwizard> the project of taking all the companies stuff from devoops to devops
23:19 < scwizard> (only 1 o in the oops, actually things were not that bad when I got there)
23:20 < grumplestiltzkin> deflops
23:20 < scwizard> i c an't work
23:20 < scwizard> gitlab is broken
23:20 < scwizard> aaa
23:20 < scwizard> i want to selfhost but it's ruby and gross
23:20 < scwizard> i can understand why it's broken all the time
23:20 < scwizard> it would probably be broken all the time if i selfhosted too
23:20 < scwizard> so yeah going home early
23:20 < scwizard> peace
23:21 < _KaszpiR_> remimnds me gott spawn gerrit
23:21 < technick> haha, gitlab is broken, time to gtfo...
23:21 < _KaszpiR_> and I've dealt with too much ruby apps to trust ruby at all :/
23:22 < _KaszpiR_> well, actually maybe 5, but that's 4 too much :D
23:22 < technick> My only ruby experience is with Chef, never had a reason to get into it past that.
23:22 < technick> Python or bust
23:22 < _KaszpiR_> we used puppet
23:23 < _KaszpiR_> never again
23:23 < technick> Puppet is alright, Ansible is where it's at though
23:23 < _KaszpiR_> some stuf is okay (like official core modules), but otherwise some stuff is just horror
23:23 < _KaszpiR_> (talking bout puppet)
23:23 < technick> figured so =)
23:23 < _KaszpiR_> now on ansible, they did some progress
23:24 < _KaszpiR_> but still lacking the flexibility of fabric
23:24 < _KaszpiR_> salt is another dimension
23:24 < technick> I've never used fabric
23:25 < _KaszpiR_> it was split into invoke and fabric2
23:25 < _KaszpiR_> AFAIR
23:25 < _KaszpiR_> pretty decent if you're into python
23:26 < _KaszpiR_> bu recently it's mainly shit written in go :/
23:27 < _KaszpiR_> recenlty prople rewrite everything in it
23:27 < technick> I've seen that happening
23:28 < technick> This goes back to what I said earlier about not recreating the wheel
23:28 < _KaszpiR_> it's just the way it is
23:29 < _KaszpiR_> seen the same stuff done in fabric, puppet, ansible, salt, chef, cfengine, younameit
23:29 < _KaszpiR_> bash or even java
23:30 < technick> Back in 2006'ish, I was automating with bash, tcl/tk and it worked, just wasn't easy to understand and didn't scale well.
23:30 < _KaszpiR_> uh tcl
23:30 < _KaszpiR_> or perl ;D
23:31 < _KaszpiR_> ok, time to hit the pillo, bye
23:31 <@JollyRgrs> adamb: close, i am a regional manager (at the global level)
23:42 < grumplestiltzkin> assistant to the regional manager at the global level
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